F1 Trivia

[ShiftingGears]

Michael Andretti - '93?

[Mintexmemory]

Michael Andretti - '93?
Michael didn't do Indy in 93
I thought Teo Fabi but the 4 GPs his brother did while he was Indying in 84 took him below 75% of that year's GPs

[FIA]

I thought Teo Fabi but the 4 GPs his brother did while he was Indying in 84 took him below 75% of that year's GPs

You're right, it is (or I thought it was) Teo Fabi did 75% and Indy, your go.

[Mintexmemory]

Which GP driver said in interview 'I learned a hell of a lot from Ronnie, driving flat out, taking risks,cutting off the tenths. And of course I realised one thing: on speed alone I've got him, I just need polish - and of course a real car too.'

Trust that isn't too easy for words :)

[ShiftingGears]

Fittipaldi or Villeneuve, surely?

[Mintexmemory]

Fittipaldi or Villeneuve, surely?

Nice try, no ceegar

[ShiftingGears]

Andretti

[Mintexmemory]

Andretti
What are you thinking of :)
Have you got the correct Ronnie, even. Could be Bucknum (far fetched, I know)

[ShiftingGears]

Well Mario has said that Peterson was his best teammate, so it was a possibility. I'm sure the quote isn't directed at Ron Dennis ;)

[Mintexmemory]

Well Mario has said that Peterson was his best teammate, so it was a possibility. I'm sure the quote isn't directed at Ron Dennis ;)
RP was the perfect team man, his contract said No2 so he never tried to gazzump Mario. The shame is he was to be No 1 when Mario bowed out.
Anyway nothing to do with Uncle Ron.

[BDunnell]

Which GP driver said in interview 'I learned a hell of a lot from Ronnie, driving flat out, taking risks,cutting off the tenths. And of course I realised one thing: on speed alone I've got him, I just need polish - and of course a real car too.'

Trust that isn't too easy for words :)

Dave Morgan?

[Mintexmemory]

Dave Morgan?

But was very good when punching James Hunt

[ShiftingGears]

Depailler!

[Mintexmemory]

Nope, I don't think either Patrick or Ronnie displayed any speed in the six-wheeler (another memory, watching them wrestling with the Tyrrel at 77 BGP practice)

[futuretiger9]

Was it Niki Lauda?

[Mintexmemory]

Was it Niki Lauda?
Process of elimination or have you read the book?
Anyway your turn :)

[D-Type]

Just for interest, when did Lauda say this? I suspect it was after he had retired.

[BDunnell]

Just for interest, when did Lauda say this? I suspect it was after he had retired.

I think it might have been when he was in a March — the drive funded by 'sponsorship' (in reality, a loan) from an Austrian bank.

[Mintexmemory]

Just for interest, when did Lauda say this? I suspect it was after he had retired.
It's contained in the first chapter (a discussion with Herbert Volker) of 'The Art and Technicalities of Grand Prix Driving' Published in English in 1977. So said while RP was still alive.

[ShiftingGears]

Which race is credited with having the slowest 'fastest lap'? (In terms of lap time, not average speed)

Also give the driver credited, and the time if possible.

[D-Type]

Clarification please. By 'race' do you mean World Championship race?

[ShiftingGears]

Yes I do.

[Vitesse]

German GP 1952. 10'05.1". Alberto Ascari.

[ChrisS]

1962 German Grand Prix,Graham Hill - 10'12.2

[ShiftingGears]

ChrisS got it. I'm not sure what the slowest fastest lap is for non championship races, though.

Your turn!

[ChrisS]

not sure about non championship races either but the lap times in some of the f1 races at Pescara were in the 10'40's

an easy one I think

list the drivers that won F1 world championship races with cars of their own team

[Cozzie]

list the drivers that won F1 world championship races with cars of their own team

Jack Brabham-Brabham
Bruce McLaren-McLaren
Dan Gurney-Eagle

[ChrisS]

correct

your turn

[SGWilko]

your turn

How much is that doggy in the window? ;)

[ShiftingGears]

To kick it off again...

What is the biggest winning time margin in a championship formula one race?

Give the race winner, the grand prix, year, and winning margin.

[ChrisS]

Hill at the 95 Australian Grand Prix by 2 laps

[ShiftingGears]

Nope.

[jedii]

To kick it off again...

What is the biggest winning time margin in a championship formula one race?

Give the race winner, the grand prix, year, and winning margin.

easy
jackie stewert
1969
Montjuich Park
in a matra won by two and a half laps ish
from bruce mclaren

[V12]

In terms of actual time, is it Stewart at the 1968 German GP? Beating Graham Hill by 4 minutes at the Nurburgring

[ShiftingGears]

No and no. It is in terms of actual time, so winning by two laps at a circuit where the lap time is 1'30 (for example) is not a greater time margin than winning by 3'30.

[V12]

1962 French GP? Dan Gurney over Tony Maggs by 1 lap (fastest race lap was 2:16.9) and 2 minutes

[D-Type]

1958 Portuguese GP?
Moss from Hawthorn by 5 minutes 12.75 secs

[ShiftingGears]

D-Type got it.

The second greatest margin of victory is Jim Clark over Bruce McLaren at Spa '63, with a margin of 4'54.

[D-Type]

Thanks. :)

Still on the subject of 1958. It is often said that Moss lost the Championship to Hawthorn in Portugal by:
(a) Misreading a pit signal "HAW REC" (record) as "HAW REG" (regular) and missed the extra point for fastest lap
(b) By supporting Hawthorn's appeal against being disqualified for bump-starting his car in the direction opposite to the race traffic

But, at what other race could it be argued that an action by Moss lost him points and the Championship?

[ChrisS]

No and no. It is in terms of actual time, so winning by two laps at a circuit where the lap time is 1'30 (for example) is not a greater time margin than winning by 3'30.

actually it is. the last driver on the lead lap can take 10 minutes to complete the last lap at a circuit where the lap time is 1'30 and will still be classified higher that the driver a lap down

[D-Type]

actually it is. the last driver on the lead lap can take 10 minutes to complete the last lap at a circuit where the lap time is 1'30 and will still be classified higher that the driver a lap downWhich is exactly what happened at Porto in 1958. Lewis Evans in 3rd place had been lapped so Hawthorn's last lap spin etc did not cost him a place.

The exception is where the race regulations placed a limit on the time to complete the final lap.

[V12]

Thanks. :)

Still on the subject of 1958. It is often said that Moss lost the Championship to Hawthorn in Portugal by:
(a) Misreading a pit signal "HAW REC" (record) as "HAW REG" (regular) and missed the extra point for fastest lap
(b) By supporting Hawthorn's appeal against being disqualified for bump-starting his car in the direction opposite to the race traffic

But, at what other race could it be argued that an action by Moss lost him points and the Championship?

Over-revving his car at the start of the Belgian GP, leading to a first lap retirement?

[D-Type]

Over-revving his car at the start of the Belgian GP, leading to a first lap retirement?Spot on - exactly what I was looking for. :champion:

A rare case of driver error on the part of Stirling Moss.

Your question.

[ShiftingGears]

Spot on - exactly what I was looking for. :champion:

A rare case of driver error on the part of Stirling Moss.

Your question.

Wasn't that also down to the flag marshall holding the cars on the start line (on a downhill slope)for an extended amount of time, and hence why the race only went for 24 laps instead of 36?

[V12]

What connects Damon Hill, Gianni Morbidelli, Eddie Cheever, Thierry Boutsen and Riccardo Patrese?

[jedii]

What connects Damon Hill, Gianni Morbidelli, Eddie Cheever, Thierry Boutsen and Riccardo Patrese?


all drove a arrows f1 car?

[jedii]

all drove a arrows f1 car?


altho morbidelli drove one when they where footwork

They are the only drivers to score a podium finish in an Arrows.

[V12]

Tamburello's got it (will have to think of a harder one next time!)

Your question...

Tamburello's got it (will have to think of a harder one next time!)

Your question...

OK, name the chief designers whose creations won races for more than one team in the 1980's....

[Ranger]

I'll guess Gordon Murray and John Barnard.

I'll guess Gordon Murray and John Barnard.

They did....but so did somebody else.

[DazzlaF1]

They did....but so did somebody else.

Is that other one Harvey Poselthwaite?

[ChrisS]

They did....but so did somebody else.

Gérard Ducarouge?

Is that other one Harvey Poselthwaite?

Nope.


Gérard Ducarouge?

Yep.

First one to put all three correct answers in a post wins it.

[Osella]

Ok ;) Gordon Murray (Brabham/McLaren), Gerard Ducarouge(Ligier/Lotus) and John Barnard!(McLaren/Ferrari)

Ok ;) Gordon Murray (Brabham/McLaren), Gerard Ducarouge(Ligier/Lotus) and John Barnard!(McLaren/Ferrari)

Correct.

Your go.

[Osella]

Ok then, what links these drivers:
Jack Brabham, Riccardo Patrese, Nelson Piquet, Joakim Bonnier and Jean Alesi?

[DazzlaF1]

Ok then, what links these drivers:
Jack Brabham, Riccardo Patrese, Nelson Piquet, Joakim Bonnier and Jean Alesi?

Did they all have the same F1 career length in number of seasons?

[D-Type]

All raced in three decades

[Osella]

D-Type; Correct! ;) You can also add Mario Andretti to that list, but thought that was too obvious ;)

[Vitesse]

D-Type; Correct! ;) You can also add Mario Andretti to that list, but thought that was too obvious ;)
... and Graham Hill.

[Ranger]

... and Graham Hill.
...and Johnny Herbert. :p :

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[D-Type]

D-Type; Correct! ;) You can also add Mario Andretti to that list, but thought that was too obvious ;)
Thanks.

A nice simple one "Name the last private entry to win a Championship GP?"

As it's simple I want the lot:
Driver?
Entrant?
Car?
Race?
Year?

[AAReagles]

Not able to really answer this, but what the hey;


Hunt ?

Heskeleth ?(doubt if I even spelled that right)

I have No clue on the car, sorry :(

Zandvoort (Dutch GP)

1975 ? (again, another bad guess)

[D-Type]

Not what I'm after. The Hesketh 308 was made by the entrant Hesketh Racing so I consider it a factory entry. I'm looking for a car purchased by the entrant, like the Ecurie Ecosse Jaguars at Le Mans.

[DazzlaF1]

Thanks.

A nice simple one "Name the last private entry to win a Championship GP?"

As it's simple I want the lot:
Driver?
Entrant?
Car?
Race?
Year?

I was gonna say when the Tyrrell team used March's (Jackie Stewart 1970 Spanish GP) but excluding that, id say, Jo Siffert in a Rob Walker Lotus at the British GP in 1968

[AAReagles]

I was gonna say when the Tyrrell team used March's (Jackie Stewart 1970 Spanish GP) but excluding that, id say, Jo Siffert in a Rob Walker Lotus at the British GP in 1968
I was thinking of Walker's team as well, but figured otherwise with Hunt at Zandvoort. Damn, this may be easy, but it sure works my grey-matter.

[D-Type]

I was gonna say when the Tyrrell team used March's (Jackie Stewart 1970 Spanish GP) but excluding that, id say, Jo Siffert in a Rob Walker Lotus at the British GP in 1968 :champion: Stewart in the Tyrrell-entered March is what I was looking for. There was an official March works team that year so the Tyrrell car has to be a private entry.

Your question

[DazzlaF1]

:champion: Stewart in the Tyrrell-entered March is what I was looking for. There was an official March works team that year so the Tyrrell car has to be a private entry.

Your question

Yay, ok then heres one (really easy cos i cant properly think at the moment)

What do all the following drivers have in common with each other?

Giancarlo Baghetti, Alain Prost, Pedro De La Rosa, Kimi Raikkonen, Mark Webber and Nico Rosberg

[jedii]

Yay, ok then heres one (really easy cos i cant properly think at the moment)

What do all the following drivers have in common with each other?

Giancarlo Baghetti, Alain Prost, Pedro De La Rosa, Kimi Raikkonen, Mark Webber and Nico Rosberg

all scored points in there first race

[DazzlaF1]

all scored points in there first race

Yep, told ya it was easy

Baghetti (French GP 1961 - 1st)
Prost (Argentine GP 1980 - 6th)
De La Rosa (Australian GP 1999 - 6th)
Raikkonen (Australian GP 2001 - 7th but moved up to 6th after scrutineering)
Webber (Australian GP 2002 - 5th)
Rosberg (Bahrain GP 2006 - 7th)

Your go

[jedii]

easy one again,
how many races did keke rosberg not qualify for in 1978 and which team(s) did he drive for

easy one again,
how many races did keke rosberg not qualify for in 1978 and which team(s) did he drive for

Theodore & ATS were the teams, and he failed to qualify 5 times.

[jedii]

your right told you it was easy

OK, name the last 'Australian' Formula One car, when it raced and who raced it.

[DazzlaF1]

OK, name the last 'Australian' Formula One car, when it raced and who raced it.

Dont know which year it was but i think it was a McGuire driven by the owner Brian McGuire in the British GP

[jedii]

Dont know which year it was but i think it was a McGuire driven by the owner Brian McGuire in the British GP

he didnt pre qualify for that race so does that count?

[jedii]

he didnt pre qualify for that race so does that count?

and it was 1977

Jedii has the correct answer. Your turn....

[jedii]

which f1 drivers that have competed in a grand prix have won indy racing league races name the drivers and how many wins they have between them

[Osella]

Eddie Cheever(5), Juan-Pablo Montoya(1) and Eliseo Salazar(1).
So 7 wins combined.

[jedii]

spot on good sir

[Osella]

WooHoo! ;)

Next question:

Which significant technical innovation, now commonplace on all single-seaters from Formula BMW upwards, was introduced to F1 at the European Grand Prix in 1993?

[LeonBrooke]

Paddle-shift gearboxes?

[Osella]

No, that was actually earlier, and I don't believe Formula BMW/F3 etc use paddle-shift ;)

[LeonBrooke]

True... but it's not traction control because many lower formulae don't use that either...

[Osella]

Nope, not traction control either ;)

[jedii]

the safety car?

[Ranger]

WooHoo! ;)

Next question:

Which significant technical innovation, now commonplace on all single-seaters from Formula BMW upwards, was introduced to F1 at the European Grand Prix in 1993?

Something involving gears? (Otherwise I have no idea)

[Cozzie]

I know it isn't the safety car as that debuted in Canada in 1973. I'm guessing it's something wet weather related as if I'm not wrong that Grand Prix took place under torrential rain.

[D-Type]

A guess: Pit to car and car to pit radio ?

[Osella]

No, no and no.

The safety car was indeed in 1973, and was re-introduced in Brazil 1993, right year, but not a technical innovation.
Pit to car radio was also much earlier than 1993, and it has nothing to to with wet weather, but more to do with the fact that the Donington race was the first European round of the season, and certain teams were introducing their definitive 1993 cars....

And no, it's not ABS either, that was later in the year, and not used in FBMW ;)

[jedii]

barge boards?

[Ranger]

Brakes?? :confused: :confused: :p :

[ArrowsFA1]

...certain teams were introducing their definitive 1993 cars.....
Something on the Benetton B193B perhaps :confused:

[ShiftingGears]

Gadgets on the steering wheels?

[Osella]

barge boards?


Bingo!! It was Bargeboards indeed.

Arrows was close, they were indeed on the B193B (actually the B193A was just a modified B192!)

There was also some dispute as to whether they were indeed Benetton's idea, as McLaren has tested them on a car before Benetton raced with them, and tried to get the FIA to force Benetton to remove them as it was a breach of copyright or some other excuse. But Benetton claimed Rory Byrne had the idea in 1992 and it just took them until the B193b was introduced to make them a reality.
Funnily enough, after Cosworth agreed engine parity between McLaren and Benetton the issue over bargeboards (already dismissed by the FIA however) disappeared.

Who knew then where this simple innovation (actually referred to as 'Barn-doors' at the time) would lead us to nowadays...!

Benetton also introduced their traction control system at Monaco, and then ran the first dynamic4-wheel steer system in F1 (not by having 4 front wheels! ;) ) at the Japanese and Australian GP's before the system was banned for 1994.

[jedii]

easy one again which formula one car has won the most races, team and model number please

[Cozzie]

The Lotus 72 with twenty wins!

[jedii]

nope that car has many defferent versions at least up to 72e i think all of those won races, the 72d was most succesfull with 8 wins im looking for example say the williams fw14b which has ten wins

[Cozzie]

The Ferrari F2002 with sixteen wins?

[Ranger]

Either that or the Ferrari 500?

[jedii]

nope to both. not as easy as i thought it might be

[ShiftingGears]

F2004

[jedii]

f2002 had 15 wins and is second best

[jedii]

f2004 also had 15 wins

[Ranger]

Williams FW14?? (though that had two versions) with 17 wins. (it's worth a try)

The McLaren MP4/4 also had 15 wins.

[jedii]

Williams FW14?? (though that had two versions) with 17 wins

fw14 had 7 fw14b had ten so nope as that was two different cars

[jedii]

you are close the record is 16

[Ranger]

Ferrari 312T? Maserati 250F? Williams FW07?

Otherwise I have no idea. I'm out. :\

[jclab]

McLaren M23 ;)

[jedii]

McLaren M23 ;)


BINGO!

1973 Swedish Grand Prix
British Grand Prix
Canadian Grand Prix
1974 Argentinian Grand Prix
Brazilian Grand Prix
Belgian Grand Prix
Canadian Grand Prix
1975 Argentinian Grand Prix
Spanish Grand Prix
British Grand Prix
1976 Spanish Grand Prix
French Grand Prix
German Grand Prix
Dutch Grand Prix
Canadian Grand Prix
US East Grand Prix

[jclab]

Who was the first British driver to lead the F1 World Championship?

[DazzlaF1]

Who was the first British driver to lead the F1 World Championship?

Mike Hawthorn?

[D-Type]

Who was the first British driver to lead the F1 World Championship?1956 - Peter Collins and Stirling Moss jointly led the Championship after the Belgian GP then after he won the French GP Collins alone led it. But Fangio caught up with them both.

[jclab]

1956 - Peter Collins and Stirling Moss jointly led the Championship after the Belgian GP then after he won the French GP Collins alone led it. But Fangio caught up with them both.

Right on, D-Type :up:

[D-Type]

Thanks

Let's see now:

One year saw 3 former World champions finish with 1,2 and 5 points

What year? And who were the drivers

[Cozzie]

1965:
1st Jim Clark
2nd Graham Hill
5th John Surtees

[Vitesse]

1980 Andretti, Scheckter and Fittipaldi

[D-Type]

1980 Andretti, Scheckter and Fittipaldi

Correct, your question

Cozzie,
I think you confused points with placings.

[Cozzie]

Correct, your question

Cozzie,
I think you confused points with placings.

Yes, I thought it seemed to obvious ;)

[Vitesse]

Something off the usual beaten track: what was the name of the Ferrari designer who disappeared in mysterious circumstances in Sardinia in 1974?

[Osella]

Giocchino Colombo?

[Vitesse]

No, not Colombo.

[jclab]

Giancarlo Bussi ;)

[GJD]

Carlo Bussi. Are you sure the disappearance was in 1974?

[Osella]

Best info I can find suggests it was 1978... 4/10/78

[Vitesse]

Bussi indeed.

And it was 1978: would you believe a typo? ;-)

And jclab's answer was not only first, but more correct. Carlo Bussi was the radio operator on the Andrea Doria.

[jclab]

Thanks :)

At which GP was a regular sponsor replaced by Drive Alcoholfrei and what was the regular sponsor :?:

[Osella]

It was the French GP in 1995, won by Michael Schumacher's Benetton on the sidepods of which the 'Drive' logo's appeared, due to the French ban on alcohol advertising. It did not exactly replace the regular 'Bitburger' sponsorship, as it was just a change of logo, not sponsorship - exactly as the 'Mild Seven' logos were replaced with 'Benetton' wording.

[GJD]

Bussi indeed.

And it was 1978: would you believe a typo? ;-)

Tsk, tsk. Benefit of doubt. But just this once.


And jclab's answer was not only first, but more correct. Carlo Bussi was the radio operator on the Andrea Doria.

Carlo is a typical short form of Giancarlo and was, in fact, the short form by which this gent was known.

Oh and by the way, the response in post #372 was, ah ... limited. As well as Gioacchino Colombo, Ferrari employed another Colombo, Sandro Colombo (no relation) who, for a short time in 1973, replaced Forghieri.

[jclab]

It was the French GP in 1995, won by Michael Schumacher's Benetton on the sidepods of which the 'Drive' logo's appeared, due to the French ban on alcohol advertising. It did not exactly replace the regular 'Bitburger' sponsorship, as it was just a change of logo, not sponsorship - exactly as the 'Mild Seven' logos were replaced with 'Benetton' wording.


Exactly :up:

All yours Osella :)

[Osella]

Hehe, I have had a 16x20" photograph of that very car on my wall for the last four years ;)

OK, a two-parter now;
a) What was unusual about Mika Salo's 5th place at Monaco in 1996 :?:
b) What was unusual about Mika Salo's 5th place at Moncao in 1997 :?:

In 96 he didn't finish the race, but was the last driver to retire (5 laps from the finish).

In 97 he did the entire race without a pit-stop.

[Bagwan]

Hehe, I have had a 16x20" photograph of that very car on my wall for the last four years ;)

OK, a two-parter now;
a) What was unusual about Mika Salo's 5th place at Monaco in 1996 :?:
b) What was unusual about Mika Salo's 5th place at Moncao in 1997 :?:

He wore the same underwear for both races .

[Vitesse]

He wore the same underwear for both races .
No, that would have been Coulthard .....

[Osella]

In 96 he didn't finish the race, but was the last driver to retire (5 laps from the finish).

In 97 he did the entire race without a pit-stop.

Correct! Thought that one may have been a little easy ;)
All yours...

Correct! Thought that one may have been a little easy ;)
All yours...

OK, what was the last Formula One car to have the radiators mounted in the front wing, and who designed it?

[V12]

Shot in the dark...

Brabham BT45B? (Gordon Murray)

Shot in the dark...

Brabham BT45B? (Gordon Murray)

Nope. There is a link though, in a not-very-much-of-a-link kind of way.

[all13d]

Murray - Brabham BT46?

[Osella]

Toleman TG183B, designed by Rory Byrne.

The link being that they would both go on to design Championship-winning cars?

Toleman TG183B, designed by Rory Byrne.

The link being that they would both go on to design Championship-winning cars?

You're correct Sir, although the 'link' is that both Mr Murray & Mr Byrne are both South African.

[Osella]

Ok, The link I was struggling with ;)

Right then, which specific thing connects these men;
Adrian Newey, Colin Chapman, John Barnard, Eric Broadley, Ernesto Maserati, Len Terry,& Gordon Coppuck :?:
But not these; Gerard Ducarouge, Patrick Head, Gordon Murray & Gary Anderson.

[V12]

Did the first group of men all design sportscars as well as F1/single seaters at some point (prototypes, so not including Murray's McLaren F1), while the second group didn't?

[Osella]

They did, however Ducarouge worked on Ligier's Le Mans 1975 Gp.5 contenders, Anderson has done some work for Dallara (although not a full car as far as I am aware) and Murray did redesign the McLaren F1 into the F1 GTR and GTR Longtail, so it's not what I am thinking of.

Ok, The link I was struggling with ;)

Right then, which specific thing connects these men;
Adrian Newey, Colin Chapman, John Barnard, Eric Broadley, Ernesto Maserati, Len Terry,& Gordon Coppuck :?:
But not these; Gerard Ducarouge, Patrick Head, Gordon Murray & Gary Anderson.

They have all designed Indy Cars.

The first bunch of hallowed names all designed atleast one car for the Indy 500, but not the trio mentioned in the second group.

That said, the un-raced Lotus 96 was based on a Ducarouge Lotus F1 chassis (the 95T I think) but he had no direct input into it.....and it didn't race anyway. The Longhorn IndyCar was basically a Williams FW07, but again it had no direct input from Patrick Head (it was just sold off as an existing chassis if I recall and Longhorn adapted it).

[Osella]

You are not wrong in what you said, but there have been others who designed both F1 and Indycars...
The answer is something specific about the cars they designed, in both Indycar and in F1.. ;)

You are not wrong in what you said, but there have been others who designed both F1 and Indycars...
The answer is something specific about the cars they designed, in both Indycar and in F1.. ;)

OK, I'll go for - The first lot all designed cars which won in both F1 & the Indy 500. The second group only won in F1.

[Osella]

OK, I'll go for - The first lot all designed cars which won in both F1 & the Indy 500. The second group only won in F1.

:up: :bounce:
Yup, that was the exact answer I was looking for. Specifically, Adrian Newey, Colin Chapman, John Barnard, Eric Broadley, Ernesto Maserati, Len Terry,& Gordon Coppuck have all designed/co-designed Indianapolis 500 winning cars and F1 Grand Prix winning machines.

There are others who have designed cars which have won Indycar and F1 races, but not the Indy 500.

OK, a visual one this time........

What's this, and what did it preceed?

*This is a model, but the actual car did exist.

[Osella]

Hmmm....Low airbox, no ground effects so we're looking '76 to '78...
3 pipes, so a V6...
I'll go for Renault test mule, preceding the RS01, the first 1.5L turbo F1 car.

Hmmm....Low airbox, no ground effects so we're looking '76 to '78...
3 pipes, so a V6...
I'll go for Renault test mule, preceding the RS01, the first 1.5L turbo F1 car.

I knew the 3 pipes would give it away....

Your right about it preceding the RS01, but I need the name and number!

[Osella]

It would be the A500 then ;)


1975. On the initiative of Jean Terramorsi, Renault takes up a new challenge: Formula 1.
In utmost secrecy, Renault starts work on a prototype. Codename A500. At Viry Châtillon in the suburbs of Paris, Renault Sport develops the Renault Gordini V6 turbocharged engine. No major carmaker involved in Formula One racing had ever taken such a daring gamble before.
At the same time, Alpine builds a single-seater. This is a single-shell construction, the first chassis of its kind built at the Dieppe plant (France).

23 March 1976. The prototype is taken through its paces on the Michelin track in Clermont-Ferrand (France). Behind the wheel: Jean-Pierre Jabouille.
May 1976. Renault unveils its prototype, claiming that the A500 is only an experimental single-seater, a "laboratory on wheels" that will never be entered in competition.

It would be the A500 then ;)

Yep, your go.

[Osella]

Okay, next question; What was unusual about the number of finishers in the 1977 German GP :?:

[V12]

Okay, next question; What was unusual about the number of finishers in the 1977 German GP :?:

Hmm...I would have said something to with Hans Heyer being an extra (illegal) starter, but then he didn't finish the race...am I anywhere near being on the right track?

[Cozzie]

8 is a weird number ;)

[jedii]

all from different countries?

[LeonBrooke]

it's not prime? It can be cube-rooted to a whole number?

[Osella]

Hmm...I would have said something to with Hans Heyer being an extra (illegal) starter, but then he didn't finish the race...am I anywhere near being on the right track?

Yes, to be fair I worded the question very badly!
That is what I was getting at, but I should have said classified drivers or something, as opposed to just 'finishers'. But I was at work and quite tired! ;)

All yours..

[ArrowsFA1]

Hmm...I would have said something to with Hans Heyer being an extra (illegal) starter, but then he didn't finish the race...
That story makes me chuckle even now...the idea of a driver sneaking onto the grid and into a race when he wasn't entitled to :laugh: :s mokin:

That story makes me chuckle even now...the idea of a driver sneaking onto the grid and into a race when he wasn't entitled to :laugh: :s mokin:

Dunno, Yuji Ide managed it a few times!

[Osella]

Last season there was a similar incident in NASCAR Craftsman Truck testing when Johnny Benson gave his helmet and overalls to a friend to take a few laps in his truck one session...
The ruse was discovered when the friend crashed the truck and after being taken to the medical centre for a precautionary checkup was found to be...not Johnny Benson! ;) :laugh:

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According to pretty much everywhere I checked, Heyer retired after only 9 laps, so i'm sure he can't have been classified before his DQ - only Peterson and Patrese of the retirees were classified in 9th and 10th, so I'm pretty stumped unless I've missed something blindingly obvious (as usual ;) ) anyone else have any ideas?

[ChrisS]

According to pretty much everywhere I checked, Heyer retired after only 9 laps, so i'm sure he can't have been classified before his DQ - only Peterson and Patrese of the retirees were classified in 9th and 10th, so I'm pretty stumped unless I've missed something blindingly obvious (as usual ;) ) anyone else have any ideas?

Osella already said you had the right answer, he just phrased his question wrong, he meant starters I guess.

Its your question

[V12]

Ah OK then, my apologies for misreading :)

Which two drivers (in no particular order) were awarded start numbers 1 and 2 for the 1963 Monaco GP?

[Vitesse]

Phil Hill and Giancarlo Baghetti, whose ATS cars were not yet ready and the entries withdrawn.

However, the numbers 1 and 2 were seen on the spare cars used by BRM (T1) and Lotus (T2).

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Phil Hill and Giancarlo Baghetti, whose ATS cars were not yet ready and the entries withdrawn.

However, the numbers 1 and 2 were seen on the spare cars used by BRM (T1) and Lotus (T2).

Yep Hill/Baghetti/ATS was what I was looking for, didn't know that about BRM and Lotus though!

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