2007 TRD3 DTM Championship - Round 5 Eurospeedway

[racer69]

Welcome to Round 5 of the Championship, this time back in Germany at the Eurospeedway Lausitz.


Race Details

14 Laps
Hard Difficulty
Simulation mode
No cheats like Turbo etc.... to be used
Driving Standards & Corner Cutting to be turned off, but the usual forum rules of 'two wheels on track at all times' (unless you spin off or whatever) must be adhered to.

PM your qualifying time, race time & fastest lap to me by 11:59pm Sunday June 24




Registered Entries

#1 - Peter Vuko (AUS) Salzgitter AMG Mercedes Benz C-Klasse
#4 - Steven Vuko (AUS) Playboy Opel Vectra GTS
#5 - John Brown (GB) WLR Mercedes Benz C-Klasse
#7 - Piotr Borkowski(Pol) Poland Position Mercedes Benz C-Klasse
#8 - RaikkonenRules (UK) Triple R Mercedes Benz C-Klasse
#10 - Tannat (USA) - Stern Team OPC Opel Vectra GTS
#11 - Mikko Jalonen (FIN) - Vodafone AMG Mercedes Menz C-Klasse
#12 - BobZee (AUS) - BZR Audi A4
#14 - Homer (Eng) - Joest Racing Audi A4
#16 - ready2rock (Eng) - Audi Sport Team Joest Audi A4
#17 - Paddy Cummins (Irl) - Joest Racing Audi A4
#19 - Adam Sloma (Poland) - Slomek Racing Opel Vectra GTS
#24 - maxu05 (China) - Monkeyboy Racing Opel Vectra GTS
#33 - harvick#1 (USA) - Red Bull Audi A4
#36 - BTCC2 - GB) - Playboy Opel Vectra GTS
#45 - Steve Spackman (GB) - SK Performance Racing Mercedes Benz C-Klasse
#46 - jso1985 (Bolivia) - VAG LatinAmerica Audi A4
#54 - SanjayKumar (USA) - SK Performance Racing Mercedes Benz C-Klasse
#66 - Jonathan McLeod (UK) - KWS Racing Opel Vectra GTS
#82 - Johnny Shell (USA) - Kentucky Fried Racing Mercedes Benz C-Klasse
#83 - racer69 (AUS) - DaimlerChrysler Bank Mercedes Benz C-Klasse
#88 - c8nay (Eng) - Playboy Racing Opel Vectra GTS
#99 - Chris Finch (Eng) - Red Bull Audi A4
#666 - real_illusions (Eng) - Mobile Chicane Racing Mercedes Benz C-Klasse


New entries welcome at all times :)

Check out real_illusions website http://www.trd3racing.surrealillusions.co.uk/dtm.php for last years race results, fastest laps etc....

[Brown, Jon Brow]

This a return to the scene of by TR3 debut. i managed to finish 2nd only 2 seconds behind Vuko. I'm aiming for the win this time though ;)

[johnny shell]

hey that was my first touring car race too! I had done some British GT series races prior to that though.

In that DTM race I finished 9th, 36 1/2 seconds behind Vuko.

so what's that tell me? that I'm a MUCH better learner than you! because just look at how much I've improved since then! HA!

[Brown, Jon Brow]

hey that was my first touring car race too! I had done some British GT series races prior to that though.

In that DTM race I finished 9th, 36 1/2 seconds behind Vuko.

so what's that tell me? that I'm a MUCH better learner than you! because just look at how much I've improved since then! HA!

Or maybe you have just improved from very bad to bad :|

[Peter Vuko]

racer, what chances of changing the due date until Wednesday 27th? This will give us a week + V8's are due on Sunday 24th.

[Peter Vuko]

Just took the Merc for a quick spin at EuroSpeedway & blew my best time away from last year - a 59.59s breaking the 1m barrier! It's the fastest non cheat time on Codies at the moment. I noticed J.Shell's time 1m.01.76 & J.B's 1m.01.89. Looking forward to see what Piotr can do - he's been very quick in qualifying with these cars.

[johnny shell]

racer, what chances of changing the due date until Wednesday 27th? This will give us a week + V8's are due on Sunday 24th.

yeah an official extension would be cool... I don't have the resources to hop back & forth from Belgium to Germany all weekend.

anyone know how far apart the tracks are anyway?

[johnny shell]

I noticed J.Shell's time 1m.01.76 & J.B's 1m.01.89. .

wow, I don't even remember that! must be from last year's race. gosh, it'll be interesting to see what I can do this year!

p.s. I guuess I didn't HAVE to leave in the part of Vuko's quote about JB's time, did I?

[Brown, Jon Brow]

Free Practice Update

1)P.Vuko.....00:59.59
2)J.Brown....00:59.63
3)J.Shell......01:01.76

What were you saying johnny?

If I knew I was only 4hundrenths of a second off Vuko's time I would have extended my practice. I was up by 2 tenths in the first sector on one lap but blew it in the final complex.

[johnny shell]

oh nevermind :(

[Brown, Jon Brow]

yeah an official extension would be cool... I don't have the resources to hop back & forth from Belgium to Germany all weekend.

anyone know how far apart the tracks are anyway?

According to Googlemaps about 750km(469miles) or about a 6 hour drive on the Autobahns

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&hl=en&saddr=Eurospeedway,+germany&daddr=spa,+belgium&sll=50.55707,5.836487&sspn=0.341131,0.933838&ie=UTF8&ll=49.922935,10.151367&spn=5.531305,14.941406&t=h&z=6&om=1

If you zoom in you can see the tracks ;)

[PiotrB]

Looking forward to see what Piotr can do - he's been very quick in qualifying with these cars.
Yes, but Eurospeedway it's not a good track for me bacause setup is so important in this track. I do my best as always :) .

One guy form Poland (not Sloma) did 0'58.42 in this track. Do you think that this time is possible?

[Brown, Jon Brow]

Yes, but Eurospeedway it's not a good track for me bacause setup is so important in this track. I do my best as always :) .

One guy form Poland (not Sloma) did 0'58.42 in this track. Do you think that this time is possible?

A 58 laps isn't possible for me

[johnny shell]

According to Googlemaps about 750km(469miles) or about a 6 hour drive on the Autobahns

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&hl=en&saddr=Eurospeedway,+germany&daddr=spa,+belgium&sll=50.55707,5.836487&sspn=0.341131,0.933838&ie=UTF8&ll=49.922935,10.151367&spn=5.531305,14.941406&t=h&z=6&om=1

If you zoom in you can see the tracks ;)

wow that's some cool ****. I didn't know you all had google maps too!

I sure hope to make a trip like that one day. starting in Belgum would be fine, but I don't know if Eurospeedway is where I would want to end up. Maybe another German track, or Silverstone, or something.

[Brown, Jon Brow]

It's only 80miles from Spa to the Nordschleife. Now that would be a trip, especially if you had an Aston DB9, Ferrari 612 Scaglietti or other kind of Grand Tourer ;)

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&hl=en&saddr=Eurospeedway,+germany&daddr=spa,+belgium&sll=50.55707,5.836487&sspn=0.341131,0.933838&ie=UTF8&ll=49.922935,10.151367&spn=5.531305,14.941406&t=h&z=6&om=1


Going from Spa to Silverstone would be ruined by having to get the ferry or train through the Channel Tunnel, you would also have the problem of driving a right hand drive car on the wrong side of the road or vice versa, because like you americans, the continental Europeans stupidly drive on the wrong side of the road :mad:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&hl=en&saddr=silverstone&daddr=spa,+belgium&sll=50.33812,6.947308&sspn=0.042839,0.11673&ie=UTF8&ll=51.426614,4.350586&spn=5.357133,14.941406&t=k&z=6&om=1

[racer69]

racer, what chances of changing the due date until Wednesday 27th? This will give us a week + V8's are due on Sunday 24th.

No problem :)

New Deadline - Wednesday 27th June

[johnny shell]

Going from Spa to Silverstone would be ruined by having to get the ferry or train through the Channel Tunnel, you would also have the problem of driving a right hand drive car on the wrong side of the road or vice versa, because like you americans, the continental Europeans stupidly drive on the wrong side of the road :mad:


well look at that! the road goes with through the water!

I would rent my car in europe instead of england for sure then. I don't mind in the V8 cars when they switch me to the other side of the car in cockpit view because my pedals are still in the right place and I'm paddle shifting.

I wouldn't want to drive with the pedals backwards & the shifter on my left.

is that why you use a hand pad? because you don't like the pedals the american way? or do you & the aussies get your own special pedals?

[Brown, Jon Brow]

What? :eek: Do you use the left peddle for the gas? Maybe you should get an automatic johnny!

We still accelerate with our right foot and clutch with our left foot (and sometimes break with the left foot!)

I find having the gear stick on the left side of the car helps, as I'm right handed I keep my right hand on the wheel.(I'm better steering right handed than left handed)

Anyway, I thought everyone in the states drives autos? :mad:

[johnny shell]

so the gas pedal is on the outside of the car? I mean away from the transmission tunnel?

now THAT is funny! you guys are so silly......

[Brown, Jon Brow]

so the gas pedal is on the outside of the car? I mean away from the transmission tunnel?

now THAT is funny! you guys are so silly......

Why?

YOUR silly :mad:

What do you drive johnny? Maybe we should buy you a RIGHT hand drive car for you to laugh at.

http://www.carkeys.co.uk/images/cm_images/fiat/grande_punto/ftgrp012.jpg

[tannat]

Why?

YOUR silly :mad:

What do you drive johnny? Maybe we should buy you a RIGHT hand drive car for you to laugh at.

http://www.carkeys.co.uk/images/cm_images/fiat/grande_punto/ftgrp012.jpg

This your Fiat, John?

[Brown, Jon Brow]

This your Fiat, John?

No this is from google ;) , although mine is identical apart from the blue trim on this one is darker on my car.

[tannat]

No this is from google ;) , although mine is identical apart from the blue trim on this one is darker on my car.

Looks similar to my Focus..

[Brown, Jon Brow]

Does anyone have a spare steering wheel?

I just found out that it is impossible to as fast as the best guys who use a steering wheel over a controller.


Controller / Wheel Comparison (http://md-dms.twbc.net/videos.php?id=81)

[tannat]

Completed our race-had to do so a bit premature as I'll be without the X Box from tomorrow until the deadline

Really never felt really good with the setup. Missed apexes routinely, and went onto the grass twice on lap 10. Fun track! Some US oval managers would be wise to take note of this track layout. Far more exciting than Daytona...

Still hope to nab a point for the O marque :D

[tannat]

Just did 4 laps in time trial mode and dropped 2.5 seconds off our Q time....

[johnny shell]

I'll have my times in by 8:00 AM Thursday new york time. my car broke down and it's messed my schedule all up. sorry. (my street car not my DTM car)

[Brown, Jon Brow]

I had a pretty poor race. My fastest lap was slower than last years and I got held up by traffic :( :bigcry:

[johnny shell]

my fast lap was decent but I had a tough time too.

I didn't test much here and was having to practice, qualify, & do the race all at once.

I had a real hard time consistantly hitting the right line on several corners and was a second or more below my potential on most laps due to driving in too hard, drifting wide, then not being able to get back on the gas soon enough.

I'm only expecting points if there's a low turn out this round.

tannat's right though- for an oval's infield road course, this is a hell of a track!

[jso1985]

had another awful race as expected, even if I was happy with my set-up, never got the break the 1:04 barrier.

anyway I think this track like the Indy F1 track is a piece of sh**.

[johnny shell]

are you SURE you don't want some help organizing the results at the next round? :p :

[tannat]

are you SURE you don't want some help organizing the results at the next round? :p :


I'm thinking racer69 is experiencing network problems again....

[johnny shell]

OH. sorry. I just got word that the results were hacked & deleted. they're tracking the culprit now - it seems someone was scared of getting beat & didn't want the results published.

they've tracked the ISP to a butcher shop "1/2 way between Lancaster", whatever that means.............

[Brown, Jon Brow]

OH. sorry. I just got word that the results were hacked & deleted. they're tracking the culprit now - it seems someone was scared of getting beat & didn't want the results published.

they've tracked the ISP to a butcher shop "1/2 way between Lancaster", ................

..........and Preston ;)

[tannat]

anyway I think this track like the Indy F1 track is a piece of sh**.

With comments like this you'd make a great F1 driver :p

[jso1985]

no wonder I'm an Alonso fan :p :

[racer69]

I'll put the results up tomorrow, sorry for the delay have had other stuff going on.

The next round will probably go up mid-week.

[racer69]

Round 5 Qualifying

Brno

1. Piotr Borkowski - Mercedes Benz C-Klasse -> 59.49s
2. Jon Brown - Mercedes Benz C-Klasse -> 59.63s
3. Peter Vuko - Mercedes Benz C-Klasse -> 59.88s
4.Johnny Shell - Mercedes Benz C-Klasse -> 1m 01.01s
5. racer69 - Mercedes Benz C-Klasse -> 1m 01.77s
6. real_illusions - Mercedes Benz C-Klasse -> 1m 02.68s
7. Tannat - Opel Vectra GTS -> 1m 04.75s
8. jso1985 - Audi A4 -> 1m 05.82s

DTM Qualifying Kings (After 6 sessions)

1. Piotr Borkowski -> 15 pts
2. Jon Brown -> 9
3. Peter Vuko -> 8
4. Adam Sloma -> 4

[racer69]

Round 5 Results

Eurospeedway (14 Laps)

1. Jon Brown (Mercedes Benz C-Klasse) --> 14m 33.86s
2. Piotr Borkowski (Mercedes Benz C-Klasse) --> 14m 35.79s
3. Peter Vuko (Mercedes Benz C-Klasse) --> 14m 40.49s
4. real_illusions (Mercedes Benz C-Klasse) --> 14m 43.88s
5. Johnny Shell (Mercedes Benz C-Klasse) --> 14m 44.01s
6. racer69 (Mercedes Benz C-Klasse) --> 14m 52.04s
7. Tannat (Opel Vectra GTS) --> 15m 15.07s
8. jso1985 (Audi A4) --> 15m 43.47s




Fastest Laps

1. Jon Brown (Mercedes Benz C-Klasse) --> 1m 01.41s
2. Piotr Borkowski (Mercedes Benz C-Klasse) --> 1m 01.12s
3. Peter Vuko (Mercedes Benz C-Klasse) --> 1m 01.70s
4. real_illusions (Mercedes Benz C-Klasse) --> 1m 02.70s
5. Johnny Shell (Mercedes Benz C-Klasse) --> 1m 01.76s
6. racer69 (Mercedes Benz C-Klasse) --> 1m 02.00s
7. Tannat (Opel Vectra GTS) --> 1m 03.76s
8. jso1985 (Audi A4) --> 1m 04.82s


Drivers Championship (After Round 5)

1. Piotr Borkowski -> 41 pts
2. Jon Brown -> 38
3. Peter Vuko -> 33
4. real_illusions -> 24
5. BobZee -> 17
6. Homer -> 14
7. Johnny Shell -> 9
8. racer69 -> 8
9. Tannat -> 6
10.Steven Vuko -> 2
=.Harvick#1 -> 2
12.jso1985 -> 1



Manufacturers Championship (After Round 5)

1. Mercedes Benz -> 48pts
2. Audi -> 26
3. Opel -> 7


STAY TUNED FOR AN ANNOUNCEMENT SOON CONCERNING THE DTM CHAMPIONSHIP. THE NEXT ROUND IS HELD AT HOCKENHEIM, STARTING IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS. KEEP AN EYE FOR THE RACE THREAD FOR DEATILS

New entries welcome at all times :)

[ready2rock]

what happened to my entry?! :(

[Brown, Jon Brow]

YEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!! I won!

This is a bit of a bogey circuit for me, I thought

Brno :love:

[johnny shell]

congradulation JB. beating Piotr AND Peter in the fastest cars we race in.... no small accomplishment! that's just the ultimate shabang. that's all there is to it.

quite a battle we had, hey r_i? got you in qualifying and set the faster lap - but it's how long it takes us to do 14 laps, not one.

and you did your 14 laps .13 of a second quiker than I did mine!

if I only hadn't drove into the corners so hard & drifted wide at the apex....

and I'm going to keep saying that until I stop doing it!

[Brown, Jon Brow]

I just relised that this wasn't Brno it was Eurospeedway! :p


The qualifying post says Brno :laugh:

[PiotrB]

Congratulations Jon ! You were lucky because I lost about 2 seconds on last lap (because of AI car) so that means that you matched my pace in race. Good.

[Brown, Jon Brow]

Thanks! I got lucky with traffic. I even think they helped my lap times when the tyres went off as I got slipstreams down the straights.

[tannat]

1. Jon Brown (Mercedes Benz C-Klasse) --> 14m 33.86s
2. Piotr Borkowski (Mercedes Benz C-Klasse) --> 14m 35.79s
3. Peter Vuko (Mercedes Benz C-Klasse) --> 14m 40.49s
4. real_illusions (Mercedes Benz C-Klasse) --> 14m 43.88s
5. Johnny Shell (Mercedes Benz C-Klasse) --> 14m 44.01s
6. racer69 (Mercedes Benz C-Klasse) --> 14m 52.04s
7. Tannat (Opel Vectra GTS) --> 15m 15.07s
8. jso1985 (Audi A4) --> 15m 43.47s


This is begining to look like a Spec C Klasse championship!

Might could have given racer69 a run for 6th with additional time, but satisfied with 2 points for Opel :up:

Spa is next?

[real_illusions]

quite a battle we had, hey r_i? got you in qualifying and set the faster lap - but it's how long it takes us to do 14 laps, not one.

and you did your 14 laps .13 of a second quiker than I did mine!

if I only hadn't drove into the corners so hard & drifted wide at the apex....

and I'm going to keep saying that until I stop doing it!

yeah..quite a battle..are you going to be saying that drifting stuff till the end of 2009? Or at least i'm hoping you are ;)

:)

[Peter Vuko]

Well done J.B!!! A good win!! A very close race overall. I need to put in more time with the Merc in race trim!

[jso1985]

oh! my first point! even if it's a default one i'm happy I wasn't so far behind the leaders

top Audi driver also :p :

[ready2rock]

i looked at my times i should've been up the front :S

[johnny shell]

so you sent in your times to racer69 and they got lost or something?

that's not fair. the results should be ammended.

[ready2rock]

im pretty sure i sent them to him yes
i mean, if theres a problem then i can reload the data and repost the times as my comp is so slow i dont even know what its doing sometimes so what i type comes out terrible (msn is a big thumbs down :P )

[johnny shell]

check your outbox and see if the message is in there.

if you sent it to him it should be in the outbox. it's hard to find the outbox - it's in some drop down menu somewhere. if you can't find it let me know & I'll tell you where it is.

[ready2rock]

ahhh found 'em, the results is sent in were incorrect :( ....my race time would have been about 10-15 seconds quicker than everybody else, whereas actually i would've been about 4th or 5th....i'll have to take extra care in future before i send them i suppose

[johnny shell]

so you would have bumped me out of the top 5?

and I'm trying to help you?????

:eek:

[Peter Vuko]

Is ready2 rock saying he would have won by 10-15secs?? That means he was 1sec a lap quicker than the" quickies" - doing 1m.00s every lap!! ready2rock can you prove your pace - that is, on the Codies Hall of Fame without any boosts or cheats!!

[ready2rock]

no peter im not saying that, im saying that i mistyped my entry duet sto a slow pc thst freezes so i cant always see what i've typed, and thast the time i did enter would have been 10-15 secs quicker, but my actual time that i raced would have put me about 4th or 5th