Kronos going IRC

[M5]

The rumours are telling that the Kronos team will jump WRC and join IRC with Pug 207's - WRC is too expensive, and the gap btw privateers and factory teams too big says Van Dalen.

IRC is growing fast !

[DonJippo]

The rumours are telling that the Kronos team will jump WRC and join IRC with Pug 207's - WRC is too expensive, and the gap btw privateers and factory teams too big says Van Dalen.

IRC is growing fast !

Doubt they will do this mid-season as that could be really expensive...the move on 2008 to IRC is not a secret been told months ago.

[MikeD]

Doubt they will do this mid-season as that could be really expensive...the move on 2008 to IRC is not a secret been told months ago.

I read yesterday that OMW has pulled the plug, so that Kronos has no sponsor for the rest of the season and Stohl has no driver. I don't think we will see Kronos in WRC for a long time.

[Gard]

I read yesterday that OMW has pulled the plug, so that Kronos has no sponsor for the rest of the season and Stohl has no driver. I don't think we will see Kronos in WRC for a long time.

Hope this is not the case. First Carlsson and now Stohl. Getting sponsorship for privateers will not be easy after this. Interesting to see how Kronos will handle this. By the way Mike, funny it was you that posted this after the postings regarding Carlsson ;) http://www.rallyforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=272848&postcount=68

[Peugeot206WRC]

I think Van Dalen really likes rally and I think its sad if he and Kronos will leave WRC.
Specially because of sponsors quitting because of uncompetetive cars with old parts wich give no results when they where promised something else.

If the Xsara still where in the hands of Citroen, with Stohl, Carlsson and ?Galli? as drivers, im sure they would be faster.
Not as fast as Loeb but probably as Sordo on gravel and Im sure they wouldve take some podiums.
Citroen would for sure lose teampoints to Kronos and thats not what they want so thats why I think they only allow older stuff on Kronos cars.

[HaCo]

Kronos IS allready in IRC!!!!

The 3rd round in Ypres they will enter a 207 S2000 for Bernd Casier, afther that they will go to Madeira, Sanremo and Rally Du Valais.

http://www.ircseries.com/html/readnews.asp?id=615

I'm happy with this!!! :D

[GigiGalliNo1]

old news this is!!!!!

yawn

good, another championship I continue to follow! fantastic! :)

[swordsman]

I read yesterday that OMW has pulled the plug, so that Kronos has no sponsor for the rest of the season and Stohl has no driver. I don't think we will see Kronos in WRC for a long time.

Read where?

[Sulland]

I must say I am a bit disapointed by the speed of the Kronos boys this year in Citroen, good Henning did not pick them ? Stohl is pissed off I think, since he drove faster in last years Whale.

But I am equally impressed how fast IRC has grown - that is impressive !

Any bets on how many car-brands, teams and drivers for 2008 ?

[Tom206wrc]

Would Manfred Stohl move to IRC too ??? :confused:

[swordsman]

Would Manfred Stohl move to IRC too ??? :confused:

That sounds very unlikely!

[MikeD]

If OMW pulls the plug on their WRC sponsorship money my guess is that Stohl has driven his final WRC.

[Brother John]

Again, it are the french who break WRC and then themselves leave the sinking ship!

WRC 2008!
3 wrc teams in 2008?!?
Subaru, Suzuki, Ford? Citroën? Mitsubishi?
Loeb to Le Mans series?
Grönholm retired?
What´s left? :dozey:

[padWRC]

If OMW pulls the plug on their WRC sponsorship money my guess is that Stohl has driven his final WRC.

Rumors in Akropolis that the Stobart team will leave WRC
for 2008!

[JAM]

Rumors in Akropolis that the Stobart team will leave WRC
for 2008!


If confirmed, where Matthew Wilson will go to folloew his 5 year plan? I have some doubts about that, maybe a change on the name but the Ford n. 2 team will probably continue.

[Glee]

Rumors in Akropolis that the Stobart team will leave WRC
for 2008!

Wilson jr. has a 5 year plan, and Henning Solberg has a two year contract.

So maybe it will continue in an other name.

[MJW]

Dont know how you can call Henning's car a Stobart Ford anyway as it is running in Expert colours, and I personally view it as an Expert Ford rather than Stobart car.
Stobart's have been pumping a lot of money into motorsport for the past few years, just wwonder whether they have a change of emphasis planned. I'm sure there will be "private Fords" whether or not they are called Stobarts I dont know, and also how can a trucking / transportation company expect the marketing rewards from WRC, do Tesco's decide I'll use a Stobart lorry because I have seen it on TV, or do they decide on the costs and performance of the logistics company when making their selection?

[Roy]

Rumors in Akropolis that the Stobart team will leave WRC
for 2008!

Rumour is a rumour. The future or facts let us know.

[Kamikaze]

Dont know how you can call Henning's car a Stobart Ford anyway as it is running in Expert colours, and I personally view it as an Expert Ford rather than Stobart car.

http://www.stobartmotorsport.com/fleet.asp

Because it´s a Stobart Car ! :D

[Tom206wrc]

Again, it are the french who break WRC and then themselves leave the sinking ship!




It's well reknowned in the world that we are guilty or every problem on the planet... :rolleyes:

[Glee]

Stobart's have been pumping a lot of money into motorsport for the past few years, just wwonder whether they have a change of emphasis planned. I'm sure there will be "private Fords" whether or not they are called Stobarts I dont know, and also how can a trucking / transportation company expect the marketing rewards from WRC, do Tesco's decide I'll use a Stobart lorry because I have seen it on TV, or do they decide on the costs and performance of the logistics company when making their selection?

There are two ways of marketing:

1) External, towards customers (ordinary marketing)
2) Internal, towards employees (and suppliers)

In Norway the largest shipbuilding company used over 1Mil € in an television ad campaign. It was a enormous success.
http://www.notteknekker.no/

[Tom206wrc]

Could a Czech member translate for us this article ?? :confused:

http://www.ewrc.cz/2006/show.asp?clanek=6130

[JAM]

Eddie Stobart must be a man that loves motorsport and has no problems investing some of his earnings on this sport as a healthy individual, even if the ROI is not enough. Is a question of taste and we must be grateful for that

If i was in his place certainly would do the same, but woth more attentiom choosing drivers :D you know what i mean :D

[PLuto]

Could a Czech member translate for us this article ?? :confused:

http://www.ewrc.cz/2006/show.asp?clanek=6130

Nothing important. Original you can find here: http://www.rallye-magazin.de/index.php?PHPSESSID=vnirtkdfro25p0bfnb5jrtlaq0&newsID=10465&view=news_detail

Manfred Stohl and people around him are trying to find, why he is so slow...

[Tom206wrc]

Confirmation of Kronos retirement from WRC on Racingworld website... ;)


The belgian team will focus on IRC with possibly a two cars team(I guess they want François Duval as 2nd driver along with Bernd Casier)...

[Wim_Impreza]

Yes Tom, they want François Duval, but he must bring money. Freddy Loix had a test with the 207 from Bernd Casier and he is also a possible driver there.

[Tom206wrc]

I thought Loix with the Polo of the René Georges Racing was 100% done ?? :confused:

[PLuto]

I think they will have more than two cars...

[Karbonyl]

"Loix & Polo = IRC" still just a wish...

[PLuto]

I thought Loix with the Polo of the René Georges Racing was 100% done ?? :confused:

For your info, Freddy was in last days testing also MG...

[Corny]

Loix will do the IRC 2008 with a Kronos 207:d

[PLuto]

Loix will do the IRC 2008 with a Kronos 207:d

Yes, I know. There will be too many Pugs :o

[Tom206wrc]

Loix will do the IRC 2008 with a Kronos 207:d



Official ??? :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

I finally found the news in http://www.pitstop.tv :p :

[HaCo]

For frenchspeaking ppl:
http://www.turbomagazine.be/des_infos.asp?id=8495&back=1

Casiers program is not certain, he has a contract for 2008 and hopes it stays like it is.

[Paul.G]

This IRC is growing fast!!
Just need to get a round in the UK :D

[Tom206wrc]

For frenchspeaking ppl:
http://www.turbomagazine.be/des_infos.asp?id=8495&back=1

Casiers program is not certain, he has a contract for 2008 and hopes it stays like it is.



I really hope they keep Casier !! A two cars team with Casier and Loix would be a good line-up !! :mark:

[Mirek]

I think there will be more than two cars in Kronos ;)

[Karbonyl]

OT for Mirek: did I tell U something in Prague? I just can't remeber :D

[AndyRAC]

This IRC is growing fast!!
Just need to get a round in the UK :D

Agree, but where, what event? Scottish was mooted but couldn't get any sponsorship.

[Roy]

Agree, but where, what event? Scottish was mooted but couldn't get any sponsorship.

When there is no WRC rally WalesGB :D

[Paul.G]

Agree, but where, what event? Scottish was mooted but couldn't get any sponsorship.
No its got to be tarmac !!

Imagine this lot round Mull
Yes I know I am dreaming, but what a dream!!!

[alleskids]

Rallye Monte Carlo will be in the IRC2009, when they are out of WRC. Rallye de Portugal is in the 2008 IRC ?

[sal]

No its got to be tarmac !!

Imagine this lot round Mull
Yes I know I am dreaming, but what a dream!!!


If only rallying was popular enough in the UK we might just pull that one off. However as it stands not one of the BRC organising clubs can afford to be even part of the IRC "supporting" series let alone host a round of the full championship.

[Tom206wrc]

Just read in another forum !!!! :eek:


Kronos and BFGoodrich will associate in IRC08 and will make run a driver coming from each IRC country in another 207 !!!! Very interesting news !!!! :up:

[jparker]

Just read in another forum !!!! :eek:


Kronos and BFGoodrich will associate in IRC08 and will make run a driver coming from each IRC country in another 207 !!!! Very interesting news !!!! :up:

Yep, good to hear that :up:

[alleskids]

2008 IRC PROVISIONAL CALENDAR:
• 21-23 March Kenya Safari Rally (gravel)
• 09-10 May Portugal Rally Portugal (gravel) (a 2007/2009 WRC round)
• 27-28 June Belgium Ypres Westhoek Rally (asfalt)
• 11-12 July Russia Rally Russia (gravel) (a 2010 WRC round)
• 01-02 August Portugal Rally Vinho di Madeira (asfalt)
• 22-23 August Czech Rep. Barum Rally Zlin (aspalt)
• 12-13 September Spain Principe de Asturias Rally (asfalt)
• 25 -27 September Italy Rally Sanremo (asfalt)
• 24-25 October Switzerland Rally du Valais (asfalt)
• 7-9 November China Rally China (gravel)

[Tom206wrc]

Just read in another forum !!!! :eek:


Kronos and BFGoodrich will associate in IRC08 and will make run a driver coming from each IRC country in another 207 !!!! Very interesting news !!!! :up:



I found the news(official)in the Yahoo Sport news(in french)... ;)

[HaCo]

This is the article where Tom206 is referring to: http://fr.sports.yahoo.com/14122007/34/kronos-racing-et-bfgoodrich-s-associent.html

In AutoHebdo, Van Dalen states that his team is able to support up to 6 cars, but 4 would be ideal. So, 2 cars are confirmed, Loix and BFGoodrich one.

[Tom206wrc]

So two more Kronos 207s are to be filled :p :


Hope Panizzi gets one of them(also Vouilloz would deserve it) :)

[Tom206wrc]

The Kronos Racing/BFGoodrich deal in english... ;)

http://www.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=0&stid=6670

[WRCKE]

kronos have 3cars

1 freddy loix
2 another belgium driver
3 is BF goodrich
4 is still waiting

[Tom206wrc]

According to http://www.crash.net Nicolas Vouilloz and Bryan Bouffier would both be contender to drive the 2nd 207 S2000 along Fast Freddy !!!


A bit pitty because both would deserve a good car on this championship :mark:

And what about Bernd Casier ??? :rolleyes:

[urabus-denoS2000]

http://www.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=0&stid=6682
voulloz and bouffier are fighting for the 2nd car

[urabus-denoS2000]

I think that vouilloz is faster,but bouffier deserves a chance

[Mirek]

Van Dalen said they could easily run 6 cars and the best for them would be four. So, let's wait. There is still a loooot of time ;)

[c4]

Yves Matton appears to be joining Kronos as Sven Smeets takes his place at Citroen Sport.
http://www.turbomagazine.be/des_infos.asp?id=8630&back=1

[HaCo]

Maybe move this thread to the IRC board?

[Tom206wrc]

Nicolas Vouilloz had a test recently with BFGoodrich ;)

Does that mean he has been chosen by Kronos for IRC08, or not yet :confused:

http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=5837

[Tom206wrc]

There's also an article in polish on http://www.rallyonline.pl ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Live from the Brussel Motorshow a pic of the car Fast Freddy will drive, in its official livery !!!! :D

http://www.vroom.be/fr/actualite-sports-moteur/5190,sport-rallye-irc.html


I'm slightly disappointed the Vergokan red/blue livery of last year's Grande Punto he drove isn't on the 207 Kronos... :(

[Tom206wrc]

According to several portuguese websites Antonio Rodriguès wants to be the driver chosen by Kronos and BFGoodrich to run the Rali de Portugal or the Vinho da Madeira in a 207 S2000... ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Three IRC events with the Kronos 207 S2000 for Nicolas Vouilloz(Turkey, Barum and Valais)...

I hoped more races(and even the complete championship)for him :(

[PLuto]

Three IRC events with the Kronos 207 S2000 for Nicolas Vouilloz(Turkey, Barum and Valais)...

I hoped more races(and even the complete championship)for him :(

You are wrong. He will do whole championship. There is written, that he has won Turkey, Barum and Valais last year :dozey:

[Tom206wrc]

You are wrong. He will do whole championship. There is written, that he has won Turkey, Barum and Valais last year :dozey:




Yes as not knowing polish and I saw the news on Autoklub I thought they wrote he only would take part to three IRC rounds ;)

[Madeira]

And what about Bernd Casier, what's the program for him next season?
I've thought the 2007 experience in four IRC rounds was the way to get more experience for this season..

[Tom206wrc]

Apparently Kronos and BFgoodrich talked today about the common plan they have in IRC08 but can't find any article in english yet :mark:

Only in portuguese
http://www.ralis.online.pt
http://autosport.clix.pt

[TheFlyingTuga]

Nothing really importante Tom!

Just says that Mark Van Dallen presents that initiative in the presentation of the Portugal Rally.

The calender of rally to this just have five rounds... and not all the championship!

Portugal, Italy, Belgium, Spain and Czech Republic.

Then it talks about how the driver will be selected!

Cheers

[Tom206wrc]

Pitty there's not Russia, I would have seen youngster Novikov with pleasure in the 207 :mark:

[Xsara Fan]

Pitty there's not Russia, I would have seen youngster Novikov with pleasure in the 207 :mark:

I agree with you, Tom...

[Karbonyl]

I wondrer about af (and when) Subaru enters this series...

[Tom206wrc]

Official entrylist of the portuguese candidates of the Kronos/BFgoodrich operation for the Rally of Portugal :D

http://alojamentos19.com/~ralis/listadivulgada08.html


I'm surprised to see Madeira driver Alexandre Camacho who already gets a 207 S2000 :confused:

[Sami]

How about Rui Madeira and Miguel Campos?!?

Wasn't the BFG car ment to be available for up and coming youngsters to have a chance to show their skills?

[mousti]

How about Rui Madeira and Miguel Campos?!?

Wasn't the BFG car ment to be available for up and coming youngsters to have a chance to show their skills?
I thought that also, like here in Belgium all Belgian licensed rallypilots may send there candidature.

[GigiGalliNo1]

I wondrer about af (and when) Subaru enters this series...

I wouldn't want them to... they can stick with PWRC same as Mitsubishi.

Maybe the Colt Rally Car or a different Subaru.... but i don't want to see subaru unfortunate in another championshiip... :(

[Mirek]

That's not about works team which is not nercessary but about huge number of privateers who drive Subaru. Now they don't have even a second in the IRC coverage and also they are not in the IRC results...

[m.lowe]

The rumours are telling that the Kronos team will jump WRC and join IRC with Pug 207's - WRC is too expensive, and the gap btw privateers and factory teams too big says Van Dalen.

IRC is growing fast !


I bet he wasn't saying that when they ran Loeb with Citroen's input was he lol

[GigiGalliNo1]

lol

[Tom206wrc]

http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=12004

Enjoy this fantastic czech april fool !!! :p :

[TyPat107]

http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=12004

Enjoy this fantastic czech april fool !!! :p :

Wow it sounds very much like something Quesnel would say