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Fast Eddie WRC
18th September 2025, 09:13
Time to start a new thread for 2026...

Lancia's comeback should be the big news to discuss.

tbazsi95
26th September 2025, 18:10
The Complete Story of the R5 Class - All Time Ranking and every car's statistical GOAT
Ranking of every R5/Rally2 car based on how many wins/podiums and stage wins they took in international competitions
https://www.powerslideblog.com/powerslide-stats-centre/the-complete-story-of-the-r5-class

Fast Eddie WRC
29th September 2025, 11:18
Rossel keeping his options open despite expectations to stay with Stellantis and new Lancia...

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/rossel-torn-on-his-future-lancia-factory-status-or-wrc27-bid/

Fast Eddie WRC
7th October 2025, 11:09
Jurgenson not being promoted to Rally1 yet by M-Sport, so more WRC2 drives next year (if he finds sponsors)...

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/m-sports-2026-plan-for-its-latest-young-wrc-prospect/

flat_right
8th October 2025, 08:18
Jurgenson not being promoted to Rally1 yet by M-Sport, so more WRC2 drives next year (if he finds sponsors)...

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/m-sports-2026-plan-for-its-latest-young-wrc-prospect/


For Jürgenson, it would be too soon in my opinion. He drove Rally3 last year, and this year he’s starting to show good results with Rally2, but he still needs one or two proper seasons with that car. I think the 2027 regulations will come at a very suitable time for him.

PLuto
8th October 2025, 11:03
Jurgenson not being promoted to Rally1 yet by M-Sport, so more WRC2 drives next year (if he finds sponsors)...

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/m-sports-2026-plan-for-its-latest-young-wrc-prospect/

It is nonsense for Romet to go to Rally1 now as this cars has only one season future and then there will becompletely different cars...

Fast Eddie WRC
8th October 2025, 13:02
It is nonsense for Romet to go to Rally1 now as this cars has only one season future and then there will becompletely different cars...

I think everyone agrees... I don't know why it was even a suggestion about Jurgenson.

If anyone was to be promoted from M-Sport it would be Jon Armstrong. He has had a very strong end to 2025 with two ERC wins and a 2nd place (to Kopecký) in Barum. Plus he has sponsors & backing from Motorsport Ireland.

Or maybe he could have an event funded by the Promoter like Sesks did. I'm sure he'd love to try the Rally1 Puma before it becomes obsolete.

denkimi
9th October 2025, 15:00
Now that solberg is with toyota, M-sport should go for gryazin. He has a big enough budget and more talent than their current drivers.
Or maybe rossel.

meh
9th October 2025, 16:09
Now that solberg is with toyota, M-sport should go for gryazin. He has a big enough budget and more talent than their current drivers.
Or maybe rossel.

M-Sport is a business, and in the current situation in the World, where in many sports disciplines competitors from a certain country are not allowed to compete, using Grazin is not a very good marketing tool. Whatever flag he legally carries at the moment does not matter too much.

WRCStan
9th October 2025, 16:17
M-Sport is a business
That's why they couldn't give a shit and neither do other customers.

Morte66
9th October 2025, 17:16
Now that solberg is with toyota, M-sport should go for gryazin. He has a big enough budget and more talent than their current drivers.
Or maybe rossel.

That would be pleasing. I think his nationality will be fine, he's done enough to make it OK. He's been driving like this for 2-3 years and I haven't noticed anyone caring.

deephouse
10th October 2025, 06:57
So why the hell Stellantis took him last year? Rallying doesn't care about politics, neither do we.

Fast Eddie WRC
10th October 2025, 09:34
So why the hell Stellantis took him last year? Rallying doesn't care about politics, neither do we.

WRC2 Cars aren't factory-backed, they're run by private teams.

And Gryazin may have funding, but enough for a Rally1 drive I'm not so sure.

deephouse
10th October 2025, 09:44
https://www.media.stellantis.com/em-en/citroen-racing/press/2024-a-strong-driving-line-up-for-the-citroen-c3rally2-in-wrc2 It was some sort ''factory'' support. I'm just saying nobody cares if he is russian, except few individuals. He is talented just like Rossel, Solberg... He have strong funding for sure, because he enter almost every event out there, even if he doesn't need to. But I'm just angry why people keep mix sport with politics. Sports people are not guilty what is going on and they should't be punished by those stupid decision.

Also M-Sport will need to rethink their line-up for next year, because continuing like that will hurt them even more.

PLuto
10th October 2025, 10:51
I'm just saying nobody cares if he is russian, except few individuals.

Maybe you should be surprised how different reality is...

Gustav Andel
10th October 2025, 11:56
Political preferences are, of course, a free choice, but Russia has nothing to do with freedom, and therefore it is necessary to banish them from public life, otherwise they legitimize the entire war.

Btw. we have never heard any negative feelings about the war from Gryazin. But if you support Russia in its war efforts, then I completely understand your opinion. Unfortunately.

Sulland
10th October 2025, 13:06
WRC2 Cars aren't factory-backed, they're run by private teams.

And Gryazin may have funding, but enough for a Rally1 drive I'm not so sure.

Yes, but factories are paying private teams to do the job for them, so indirect backed.

Fast Eddie WRC
11th October 2025, 11:51
Yes, but factories are paying private teams to do the job for them, so indirect backed.

'Factory-blessed' may be the better description, but none of them (apart from Loubet M-Sport and a couple of TGR NG juniors) are official factory team entries.

PH Sport, Toksport, Printsport, Rautio etc etc are the team entries and the cars have their or the drivers own sponsors on the cars.

deephouse
11th October 2025, 17:22
I wonder two years ago why the hell would they start this ''official project'', have this big announcements with drivers with quite old car (don't get me wrong, they nailed it). But the only thougts was, that they are thinking of re-entering the championship (Citroen Racing). As it stands, they were preparing the terrain for Lancia. Also they pick younger Rossel for tests... Of all available drivers, those who drive that C3, and those who didn't, and also those who are great for developing cars. Why other than that they are official backed drivers in unofficial team.

WRCStan
11th October 2025, 17:41
I wonder two years ago why the hell would they start this ''official project'', have this big announcements with drivers with quite old car (don't get me wrong, they nailed it). But the only thougts was, that they are thinking of re-entering the championship (Citroen Racing). As it stands, they were preparing the terrain for Lancia. Also they pick younger Rossel for tests... Of all available drivers, those who drive that C3, and those who didn't, and also those who are great for developing cars. Why other than that they are official backed drivers in unofficial team.

Spondoolics. Manufacturers who enter WRC2 have to pay WRC money. They're there to make money from the sport, not put into it.

wyler
16th October 2025, 11:40
mabellini rumored to be in lancia with rossel and another top tier (paying) driver like gryazin

skarderud
16th October 2025, 21:05
Østberg is also linked to Lancia, mostly developmentdriver.

Sent fra min SM-S901B via Tapatalk

deephouse
17th October 2025, 15:19
Ostberg says he will probably retire from full time rallying. Probably some here and there will be on his radar, so the testing is possible.

deephouse
18th October 2025, 14:17
According to DirtFish Lancia confirmed factory backed rally team in WRC2 from 2026 onward.

tbazsi95
18th October 2025, 18:07
According to DirtFish Lancia confirmed factory backed rally team in WRC2 from 2026 onward.

Official: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCWGXHXmOxA

WRCStan
18th October 2025, 18:40
According to DirtFish Lancia confirmed factory backed rally team in WRC2 from 2026 onward.


Official: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCWGXHXmOxA

According to that video, Lancia are entering themselves. If that turns out to be true, I'll be convinced they will be in the manufacturer's championship in 2027.

Co-driven
20th October 2025, 15:13
No, it is going to be similar operation as with Citroen: PH Sport will be running the "works" cars.

deephouse
20th October 2025, 20:09
No matter what or how, I hope it will encourage Skoda again to step up their game.

Fast Eddie WRC
21st October 2025, 10:39
No, it is going to be similar operation as with Citroen: PH Sport will be running the "works" cars.

Quite likely, as they'll need experienced people to run the car in WRC and Rossel will want engineers he knows.

However they could re-brand them as Lancia as they'll want maximum publicity for the Manufacturer name.

Dimitris
21st October 2025, 13:53
PH Sport is not a Stellantis company, and they do more than just rally, why would they be rebranded to Lancia?

Fast Eddie WRC
21st October 2025, 14:29
PH Sport is not a Stellantis company, and they do more than just rally, why would they be rebranded to Lancia?

In that case they wont. But it's all theoretical until Lancia confirm if they're running the WRC team.

WRCStan
21st October 2025, 16:58
The subtitles in the video are "we're entering the WRC2 world championship" but I think his words are something else (maybe the car will run in WRC2?) Me and my legal definitions lol. Either way, the point is, Lancia could enter and PH run the entry, or PH enter and with support from Lancia, it signals different things.

wyler
22nd October 2025, 12:41
PH Sport is not a Stellantis company, and they do more than just rally, why would they be rebranded to Lancia?

because stellantis/lancia will hire them to run the program, same way they did with citroen.

Fast Eddie WRC
1st November 2025, 13:09
Apparently Lancia are going to make an official launch announcement of their 2026 WRC2 entry on Nov 28th, including who will drive the cars.

Eli
2nd November 2025, 04:28
Apparently Lancia are going to make an official launch announcement of their 2026 WRC2 entry on Nov 28th, including who will drive the cars.

November 18th is what I saw on PlanetMarcus (credit to PlanetMarcus).

Sulland
10th November 2025, 17:04
Looking at the results only, I am struggeling to see the clear reason Toyota have used to promote Jaspar Vaher alone to a "Factory" WRC2 campaign in 26.

Was this a correct choice, you that know him better?

trykmann
10th November 2025, 17:11
Looking at the results only, I am struggeling to see the clear reason Toyota have used to promote him alone to a "Factoty" WRC2 campaign in 26.
Was this a correct choice, you that know him better?

Who do you mean?

deephouse
10th November 2025, 20:38
When will Lancia announce their 2k26 lineup? I mean declare 1-2 finish in WRC2 championship.

bluuford
11th November 2025, 22:29
Looking at the results only, I am struggeling to see the clear reason Toyota have used to promote Jaspar Vaher alone to a "Factory" WRC2 campaign in 26.

Was this a correct choice, you that know him better?

You must have looked wrong person then :) Have seen him drive live and He drives like young Ott. The boy can win everything if with fast and reliable car (which Lancia was not). As Toyota does not need any extra drivers in a Rally 1 for 2026 (but by 2027, Ogier is 43 years old, Evans 38, not sure how long both of them continue with full time), he is just right investment for future. Just quite long way still to go and many things needed to be learned.

PLuto
12th November 2025, 12:05
You must have looked wrong person then :) Have seen him drive live and He drives like young Ott. The boy can win everything if with fast and reliable car (which Lancia was not). As Toyota does not need any extra drivers in a Rally 1 for 2026 (but by 2027, Ogier is 43 years old, Evans 38, not sure how long both of them continue with full time), he is just right investment for future. Just quite long way still to go and many things needed to be learned.

Why do you think that Lancia was not reliable car?

bluuford
12th November 2025, 13:09
Why do you think that Lancia was not reliable car?

My memory is not the best anymore, but I remember some issues, one retirement was due to the broken drive shaft and there were several smaller issues for him and for Tuukka. But in general, nothing super-bad, but several small things that are quite normal for new car and summed up with new car speed, it didn't allow to collect too many points.

flat_right
12th November 2025, 13:33
Why do you think that Lancia was not reliable car?

I won't say anything about reliability but just put out some statistics.

He has had 9 starts with Ypsilon this year of which he retired on 3 of them because of car issues: two with a broken driveshaft (Elba and Rjad Polski), Electrical issue (Rally Valli della Carnia)

deephouse
12th November 2025, 13:52
Hyundai is competing for 14-15 years already, but STILL have big reliability issues (oh man, those wipers). Lancia is present again for less than half a year and having some things isn't making them automaticaly unreliable car. We will see it when they will hit some serious milestones

denkimi
12th November 2025, 15:10
Hyundai is competing for 14-15 years already, but STILL have big reliability issues (oh man, those wipers). Lancia is present again for less than half a year and having some things isn't making them automaticaly unreliable car. We will see it when they will hit some serious milestones
And wipers aren't exactly new or complex technology. How many times have you had the wipers or your road car fail? How many times does the window fog up and can can't be cleared by the blower?
These are just engineering fails when building very simple basic things.

How can we expect them to get anything complex right when they can't even get the basics.

COD
12th November 2025, 22:06
And wipers aren't exactly new or complex technology. How many times have you had the wipers or your road car fail? How many times does the window fog up and can can't be cleared by the blower?
These are just engineering fails when building very simple basic things.

How can we expect them to get anything complex right when they can't even get the basics.

Usually issues when weight is tried to save everywhere. Has a distinct Loriaux mark on those

Fast Eddie WRC
13th November 2025, 10:20
The story is that Neuville's heavy crash in CER had an affect on his car in Japan.

The parts from the CER car were fitted to a new chassis for Japan (as the events are linked), but they'd still had the impact from the crash.

PLuto
13th November 2025, 11:29
My memory is not the best anymore, but I remember some issues, one retirement was due to the broken drive shaft and there were several smaller issues for him and for Tuukka. But in general, nothing super-bad, but several small things that are quite normal for new car and summed up with new car speed, it didn't allow to collect too many points.

I dont remember much more issues than others. Broken driveshaft is quite usual problem for Rally4 cars when you are pushing and everybody (winner Carlberg included) at least once retired because of driveshaft. Main problem for Tuukka were punctures, he had puncture almost on every race and usually not only one...

Tom206wrc
14th November 2025, 19:11
mabellini rumored to be in lancia with rossel and another top tier (paying) driver like gryazin

I have also read that Hyundaï tries to hire Gryazin to replace Tänak :confused:

Anyway can't wait for next tuesday and Lancia announcement ;)

trykmann
15th November 2025, 04:25
What is going to happen on Tuesday?

Tom206wrc
15th November 2025, 07:23
18th november is the official day for Lancia Corse to present 2026 program ;)

Fast Eddie WRC
18th November 2025, 09:20
18th november is the official day for Lancia Corse to present 2026 program ;)

Nothing yet.. Italians having a sleep in ? ;)

wyler
18th November 2025, 09:25
Nothing yet.. Italians having a sleep in ? ;)

italians surely do sleep, as the thing is in france!

Tom206wrc
18th November 2025, 10:04
Maybe in the afternoon :confused:

Eli
18th November 2025, 10:17
They’re preparing: https://www.rallytime.eu/2025/11/18/diretta-live-oggi-e-il-giorno-a-satory-nasce-la-nuova-lancia-ypsilon-hf-integrale-rally2/

Fast Eddie WRC
18th November 2025, 11:04
Same livery as the test car...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G6CIqoIX0AEbu6U?format=jpg&name=medium

Tom206wrc
18th November 2025, 11:08
I hope the drivers will also be presented :confused:

PLuto
18th November 2025, 11:21
I hope the drivers will also be presented :confused:

They will be presented before Christmas, not today...

deephouse
18th November 2025, 11:30
So they didn't reveal practicaly nothing. A lot of nothing 😂

Tom206wrc
18th November 2025, 11:35
Yes I feel disappointed no drivers names today(that was my main expectation) :(

deephouse
18th November 2025, 11:47
Maybe the plan changed because of Ott. It might be, that Rossel could go to Hyundai. Or even crazier idea (or not so crazy if Rally2 will be the main category of cars because nobody will make WRC27 cars at all) that Tanak will go to Lancia

Fast Eddie WRC
18th November 2025, 11:53
They probably just want to keep fans guessing and the interest going until nearer to Monte.

Hyundai should name their 3rd Driver after Saudi Arabia and end one possibility.

Fast Eddie WRC
18th November 2025, 11:57
"The team said that the driver contracts are still being finalised, which is why the names could not yet be published. The team stated it will announce its drivers around mid-December."

Rally-Journal

PLuto
18th November 2025, 12:11
Maybe the plan changed because of Ott. It might be, that Rossel could go to Hyundai. Or even crazier idea (or not so crazy if Rally2 will be the main category of cars because nobody will make WRC27 cars at all) that Tanak will go to Lancia

Or maybe the drivers are still under actual contract and they dont want to publish it before Saudi Arabia...

Rallyper
18th November 2025, 13:06
Or maybe the drivers are still under actual contract and they dont want to publish it before Saudi Arabia...

Most probably.

Tom206wrc
18th November 2025, 13:33
According to someone on another forum, Rachele Somaschini was present at Satory today, and she already put on sale her current Citroën C3... :confused:

Tom206wrc
18th November 2025, 13:37
"The team said that the driver contracts are still being finalised, which is why the names could not yet be published. The team stated it will announce its drivers around mid-December."

Rally-Journal


They didn't mention Andrea Mabellini on their latest article about Lancia... :confused:

wyler
18th November 2025, 14:38
They didn't mention Andrea Mabellini on their latest article about Lancia... :confused:

looks like no mabellini.

rumors from italy:

wrc2, rally2, phsport ->rossel x2 or gryazin
erc, only rally4, ?? team ->pisani as winner of italian trophy
regional ita, rally 2 ->crugnola

confirmed rally2 also in fra, spa and bel.

15 orders already placed.

Tom206wrc
18th November 2025, 14:54
I didn't understand that 15 Ypsilon Rally2 were already sold, but only that the 15 first sold models would be delivered in april 2026 :confused:

Edit: I've read that Jan Solans wanted to test an Ypsilon too ;)

deephouse
18th November 2025, 15:17
They are trying to rebuilding the brand and that's the excellent way to do it. Also want to sell the car on various market. More brands should follow them. Just glad that they didn't go into some sort of Dakar, WEC like all does and they choose rallying to promote their brand.

Now I'm waiting Skoda, Subaru or maybe one who try to enter several times Proton.

Andre Oliveira
18th November 2025, 15:26
Confirmed Lancia to Portugal also.

Tom206wrc
18th November 2025, 16:37
Confirmed Lancia to Portugal also.


Sports&You and José Pedro Fontès I guess ;)

Fast Eddie WRC
18th November 2025, 17:54
Lancia launches its Ypsilon Rally2 HF Integrale

Described by Lancia as “an entirely new car that benefits from the experience gained over multiple racing seasons”, the Ypsilon Rally2 HF Integrale has been “developed through an intense programme of testing and validation on both sides of the Alpine mountain roads and at the Balocco proving ground [in Italy]”, according to the Stellantis-owned marque.

The Lancia communication continued: “The new Rally2 HF Integrale blends engineering precision with Lancia identity, aiming to position itself among the top contenders in the category. Each car has been engineered in collaboration with the same teams involved in the Group’s WRC2, ERC, endurance and customer racing programmes, ensuring technical coherence and cross-programme robustness rarely seen in the current motorsport landscape”.
Lancia has confirmed the all-new Rally2 contender will be delivered to factory-supported and customer teams in the first quarter of 2026.

The car is also expected to contest the national championships in Belgium, France, Italy and Spain, plus the FIA World Rally Championship’s WRC2 category.

“The upcoming season will also see the presentation of new drivers, technical updates and a development roadmap designed to consolidate Lancia’s presence across international and national rally stages, confirming its role as a reference point for innovation, performance, and passion”, Lancia stated.

Cars will be delivered through the Stellantis Motorsport Racing Shop, “in full compliance with the FIA cost-cap policy for Rally2 cars”.

“The commercial programme aims to expand Stellantis’ market share in customer racing and to consolidate Lancia’s position as a benchmark brand for performance, build quality and design in the modern rally scene,” according to Lancia. “With the Ypsilon Rally2 HF Integrale, Lancia reaffirms its pioneering role: to compete with passion, innovate with method, and inspire a new generation of drivers”.

Lancia Ypsilon Rally2 HF Integrale’s seven key areas of development
Lancia has highlighted seven areas where the Ypsilon Rally2 HF Integrale can make the difference:
1: Weight and balance, with significant mass reduction and a lower centre of gravity
2: Advanced aerodynamics, improving downforce and stability at high speed
3: Engine performance and drivability, featuring a turbo management system derived from the Peugeot 9X8 architecture and a new anti-lag system (ALS)
4: Transmission with revised gear ratios and differentials optimised for all surfaces.
5: Chassis and suspension fine-tuned to deliver class-leading performance on both Tarmac and gravel
6: Driver environment, redesigned for maximum ergonomics, comfort and concentration
7: Bodyshell and roll cage, entirely new to ensure superior rigidity and full FIA safety compliance.

From FIAERC.com

Andre Oliveira
18th November 2025, 21:24
Sports&You and José Pedro Fontès I guess ;)

Yes. Program in Spain and WRC2 should be certain also.

Sal yet again
19th November 2025, 08:29
Already talk on Canary Islands rally websites that Sports&You Canarias looking to run Yeray Lemes in a Lancia as he has been driving a C3 for the last couple of seasons.

Sulland
19th November 2025, 09:27
Which test/development drivers have they used i the process?
Both gravel and asphalt specialists or just one of them?

deephouse
19th November 2025, 09:33
Biaison, L.Rosel, Bonato

wyler
19th November 2025, 09:54
Biaison, L.Rosel, Bonato

crugnola too

Negaiss
19th November 2025, 11:05
They are trying to rebuilding the brand and that's the excellent way to do it. Also want to sell the car on various market. More brands should follow them. Just glad that they didn't go into some sort of Dakar, WEC like all does and they choose rallying to promote their brand.

Now I'm waiting Skoda, Subaru or maybe one who try to enter several times Proton.

Dacia is also builing brand heavily - Entering Dakar, producing good quality road cars for acceptable prices. some new models. And there was a rendering of Dacia WRC some time ago on internet. So I would also say, that chance to see Dacia in WRC in 2027 ir greater than 0%.

Tom206wrc
19th November 2025, 11:18
Yes. Program in Spain and WRC2 should be certain also.


That would make sense with the Jan Solans rumour(from Revistascratch) :cool:

deephouse
19th November 2025, 13:43
Dacia is also builing brand heavily - Entering Dakar, producing good quality road cars for acceptable prices. some new models. And there was a rendering of Dacia WRC some time ago on internet. So I would also say, that chance to see Dacia in WRC in 2027 ir greater than 0%.

I read somewhere not long ago, that Dacia kill rumours by not getting in WRC in near future. They were linked with Prodrive, which they co-operate in Dakar. But as far as I know Prodrive in Dakar will partner with Defender works programme, so don't know can they do being present for both brands there... Never mind, Prodrive should be in rallying (and maybe they will), but sadly not with Dacia.

GigiGalliNo1
19th November 2025, 13:48
I read somewhere not long ago, that Dacia kill rumours by not getting in WRC in near future. They were linked with Prodrive, which they co-operate in Dakar. But as far as I know Prodrive in Dakar will partner with Defender works programme, so don't know can they do being present for both brands there... Never mind, Prodrive should be in rallying (and maybe they will), but sadly not with Dacia.

It was two days ago Lancia said they don't know where WRC rumours came from...

deephouse
19th November 2025, 13:52
Lancia or Dacia?

Tom206wrc
19th November 2025, 14:53
According to Tuttorally website(italian), the option of Nikolay Gryazin with Lancia starts to collapse, and the probability that the two WRC2 Ypsilon to be driven by the Rossel brothers looks higher :confused:

Tom206wrc
19th November 2025, 15:14
According to Dirstfish there could be around 100 pre-orders for the Ypsilon Rally2 :eek: :confused:

They still mention Andrea Mabellini as possible in ERC 2026 with Lancia...

http://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/what-we-know-about-lancias-wrc2-program-so-far/

WRCStan
19th November 2025, 16:36
Dacia is also builing brand heavily - Entering Dakar, producing good quality road cars for acceptable prices. some new models. And there was a rendering of Dacia WRC some time ago on internet. So I would also say, that chance to see Dacia in WRC in 2027 ir greater than 0%.

With Rally2-Kit being top class, there's one or two maybes.

Jarek Z
19th November 2025, 18:15
Lancia or Dacia?

I think he meant Dacia:

Dacia’s Dakar project marketing manager, François Aupierre, plays down the rumours of joining the World Rally Championship.

“A few months ago there were rumours saying we were coming to the World Rally Championship. I don’t know where those rumours came from. It is not happening, though. I do not believe Dacia will be involved. On the other hand, I am not the one making these decisions,” Aupierre told the Estonian newspaper Postimees.

“I do know why these rumours spread. Our Dakar team includes nine-time rally champion Sébastien Loeb. That would of course be a fine scenario, but Dacia is not coming to the World Rally Championship. There are no such plans, at least not in the near future.”

source:
https://rallyjournal.com/a-harsh-message-for-the-world-rally-championship-we-are-not-coming/

Sulland
19th November 2025, 21:33
Biaison, L.Rosel, Bonato

So two or three primary asphalt,specialists and a pensioner.
lets hope they have not made the same mistake as Citroen did with both their R5/Rally2 cars: that was very very good on asphalt and very difficult to set up to be easy to drive on Gravel/snow.

Fast Eddie WRC
21st November 2025, 19:45
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G6S_dczWYAIsO1l?format=jpg&name=small

meh
22nd November 2025, 08:46
30 orders in 24h

... a lot of marketing, but do we have any validation that the car is actually worth it? Is it a blind belief at the moment?

Tom206wrc
22nd November 2025, 13:10
The Lancia Ypsilon has not had any real run until now, so I guess people are just comparing(in their brains)to the Citroën C3 Rally2 ;)

Fast Eddie WRC
22nd November 2025, 13:50
The Lancia Ypsilon has not had any real run until now, so I guess people are just comparing(in their brains)to the Citroën C3 Rally2 ;)

They've surely tested it back-to-back with the C3 and found it's faster.

WRCStan
22nd November 2025, 13:55
It's also newer so longevity probably makes better financial sense.

deephouse
22nd November 2025, 15:56
C3 have homologation valid until 2030. Sure they will still get some updates until then. Don't know for how long will Lancia get their homologation cycle, but probably at least until the whole Rally2 concept will last (as someone said that the class is going towards it's end cycle). Of course it's newer, and they promise it's better, and most probably it will get upgrades, the most money out of Stellantis and it's the works car, so it will surely be good.

Fast Eddie WRC
25th November 2025, 15:31
More here on the sales orders for the new Lancia Rally2...

https://www.italpassion.fr/en/lancia/lancias-new-car-earns-over-8-million-euros-in-a-single-day/

"Market reaction was immediate. By the end of the day, thirty firm orders had been received. Thirty cars, each invoiced at €268,000 before tax, not including the €41,000 option offered to the most demanding teams. In just a few hours, the new Ypsilon Rally2 HF Integrale had generated over €8 million in orders..."

denkimi
25th November 2025, 18:35
More here on the sales orders for the new Lancia Rally2...

https://www.italpassion.fr/en/lancia/lancias-new-car-earns-over-8-million-euros-in-a-single-day/

"Market reaction was immediate. By the end of the day, thirty firm orders had been received. Thirty cars, each invoiced at €268,000 before tax, not including the €41,000 option offered to the most demanding teams. In just a few hours, the new Ypsilon Rally2 HF Integrale had generated over €8 million in orders..."
Which is weird. Why would anyone buy a car that is totally unproven?

Morte66
25th November 2025, 20:22
Which is weird. Why would anyone buy a car that is totally unproven?

Good question. The words "HF Integrale" have a powerful emotional pull, but...

PLuto
26th November 2025, 02:26
Which is weird. Why would anyone buy a car that is totally unproven?

It is not unproven. It is new evolution of Citroen...

Andre Oliveira
26th November 2025, 05:34
Why someone would buy a new Skoda, a new Toyota or a new M-Sport car before test/first delivers? It could happen a fatal conception failure and the car be a disaster...

People buy by be new, by be a Lancia and have dream or support from local dealers or just cause they want.

No, the car is not an evolution of Citroën. The car is new and have know-how of Citroën.

trykmann
26th November 2025, 06:47
Why someone would buy a new Skoda, a new Toyota or a new M-Sport car before test/first delivers? It could happen a fatal conception failure and the car be a disaster...

People buy by be new, by be a Lancia and have dream or support from local dealers or just cause they want.

No, the car is not an evolution of Citroën. The car is new and have know-how of Citroën.

C3 WRC also had know-how of Citroën :D

deephouse
26th November 2025, 08:33
They had firstly Meeke and he destroyed many of their cars. Then they had Ogier and he demanded results straight away and left and then they left claiming there is no one to drive it. And they explicitly demanded alternative power units being in WRC and then left. Cowards. If they would be serious they should come back in 2027. And we would get years of battles which manufacturer would have more titles: Lancia, Toyota or Citroen. Through those years many drivers get capable of challenging for titles and winning events and not just Ogier, but I have a feeling Citroen don't like having hard time by having much competition. Just like VW. Left right before Toyota came and Hyundai getting better (and just tell the world it's the diesel gate they can't participate anymore, while spending way more cash everyelse)

trykmann
29th November 2025, 09:51
Good interview with Jaspar Vaher in a local podcast. Gives a small insight of the Toyota youth program and Lancia rally4 development:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzYh8DjlFeI

Automatically generated subtitles are available.

meh
29th November 2025, 18:58
Good interview with Jaspar Vaher in a local podcast. Gives a small insight of the Toyota youth program and Lancia rally4 development:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzYh8DjlFeI

Automatically generated subtitles are available.

Quick selective points:
* Dude is an athlete, doing running, cross-country skiing, wrestling, and basketball
* Was a mechanic for Lauri Joona during Rally Estonia
* Toyota worldwide selection for test, 5 selected guys, invitation at the end of July, test during August. Other competitor names he was not allowed to share.
* Testing 5 days in total, 3 days of driving, 1 day of physical tests
* Driving were done Renault Rally3 and Toyota Rally2 cars, total around 50km
* He knew the decision from the end of August
* Next season is a "training season.", but the contract is just one season.
* Juho Hänninen is his mentor/teacher
* Starts with the Finnish championship with a Rally2 car
* The focus is on testing, training, and small rallies. The "result" is measured by "development speed."
* Has experience in a mechanic role in the Monaretto team and in the Red-Grey team.
* He is in his last year in gymnasium.
* Struggled with Lancia Rally4 on gravel

Really reasonable conversation by an 18-year-old.

Based on this interview, my huge respect for his parents, especially for his father. That is a good example of good parenting.

Andre Oliveira
12th December 2025, 10:14
Rossel and Gryazin to spearhead Lancia’s WRC2 return in 2026

https://img.redbull.com/images/c_crop,x_608,y_0,h_3648,w_4864/c_fill,w_750,h_563/q_auto,f_auto/redbullcom/2025/12/12/pwrxzpbarkwdgukhj4z3/lancia%20720w

https://www.wrc.com/en/news/rossel-and-gryazin-to-spearhead-lancia-s-wrc2-return-in-2026

Andre Oliveira
12th December 2025, 11:36
Rossel today
Pic of Zagatoi via Planetemarcus

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G796JkwXgAA5bZX?format=jpg&name=large

Fast Eddie WRC
12th December 2025, 14:51
First novelty: extended side wing supports to prevent external airflow from entering under the wing, pressure is reduced & the wing is more effective...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G7-g4ctWoAABVj0?format=jpg&name=900x900

WRCWings

Tom206wrc
12th December 2025, 17:38
So no surprise about the drivers, rumours weeks ago already announced them... ;)

FUNKYXXXXX
12th December 2025, 17:44
Yohan Rossel Testing Lancia Ypsilon Rally2 2026

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7vB09oJ-3I

wyler
13th December 2025, 11:42
Yohan Rossel Testing Lancia Ypsilon Rally2 2026

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7vB09oJ-3I

lot of work on front and rear aero

Andre Oliveira
15th December 2025, 21:46
Andrea Lafarja with Teo Martin’s Toyota GR Yaris Rally2

Kenya
Spain
Greece
Paraguay
Chile
Italy
Saudi Arabia

FUNKYXXXXX
16th December 2025, 13:19
TEST WRC Monte-Carlo 2026 | Lancia Ypsilon Rally2 | Nikolay Gryazin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMIC5JI_jV8

Andre Oliveira
17th December 2025, 17:11
Monte-Carlo, Bastogne et Suède pour John Wartique début 2026 !

https://www.speedactiontv.be/Getimage.aspx?m=F&d=imgnews&n=WARTIQUE-26-03LL.jpeg

https://www.speedactiontv.be/Monte_Carlo_Bastogne_et_Suede_pour_John_Wartique_d ebut_2026_-45811-1.aspx?fbclid=IwdGRleAOvzmdleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBm FwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEepd_nrv8fAPBxH7BNr-Lnloul225XXbd0e2U_hMbyOqQJNWY2DdeCZ9e7sOY_aem_ealY k-Ok-lijVxgg3fQ7Uw

Tom206wrc
17th December 2025, 19:27
Léo Rossel in Monte-Carlo with Citroën C3 Rally2 from 2C Compétition(he's aiming for the entire WRC2 series) ;)

Andre Oliveira
19th December 2025, 09:23
ROMET JÜRGENSON TO CONTEST OPENING ROUNDS OF FIA WRC2 IN 2026

M-Sport is pleased to confirm that rising Estonian talent Romet Jürgenson will return to the team for the opening rounds of the 2026 FIA WRC2 championship, continuing his progression in the Ford Fiesta Rally2 alongside co-driver Siim Oja.

Following an impressive first season in Rally2 machinery, the Estonian pairing will make their WRC2 season debut on the iconic stages of Rallye Monte-Carlo, before heading to the snow-covered roads of Rally Sweden for round two and their first championship points-scoring appearance. The pair will then also make their debut on Safari Rally Kenya in March.

Jürgenson’s continued rise through the ranks follows his Junior WRC title success in 2024, which earned him promotion to WRC2 competition with M-Sport in 2025 under the FIA Rally Star programme. He quickly integrated into the team, contesting six WRC events during the season while also undertaking a full British Rally Championship campaign, finishing second in the standings. This included the ERC round of Rali Ceredigion, where he delivered a standout performance to finish second overall.

The Estonian further underlined his speed and consistency with an additional European Rally Championship appearance at the Croatia Rally season finale. Running inside the podium positions for much of the event in a close fight with teammate Jon Armstrong, Jürgenson ultimately secured an impressive fourth-place finish.

The opening events of the 2026 season will also mark an important technical milestone for the M-Sport Ford Fiesta Rally2. Jürgenson will be tasked with debuting a comprehensive new upgrades package in FIA WRC2 competition, following extensive development work with the M-Sport engineering team throughout 2025.

The latest evolution of the Fiesta Rally2 features a range of performance and reliability enhancements, including engine and electrical updates, revised suspension geometry, improved cockpit cooling, a new rear brake cooling kit, and a lightweight components package. Initial production of the upgrade components has been allocated to new car sales, with a limited first batch of upgrade kits subsequently made available to existing Fiesta Rally2 customers for pre-order, ahead of April delivery.

With momentum firmly behind him, the 2026 WRC2 campaign represents the next key step in Jürgenson’s career,

combining top-level international competition with the introduction of the latest Fiesta Rally2 developments on two of the championship’s most iconic events.

Richard Millener, M-Sport Ford World Rally Team Principal, said:

“Romet has shown a very mature approach since stepping into Rally2, both in terms of his driving and the way he works with the team. His performances in 2025 confirmed that he belongs at this level, and starting the 2026 WRC2 season on two of the most demanding events on the calendar will be a great next step for him and Siim. It’s especially exciting now that we are launching the Fiesta Rally2 upgrades too. We’re looking forward to seeing how he continues to develop throughout the season.”

Romet Jürgenson said:

"I’m super happy and feel privileged to be starting my second consecutive season with M-Sport in WRC2. We’ll kick off the year at Monte Carlo, one of the most iconic events, where gaining experience is so important. Luckily, we’ll have the Jännerrallye and some testing beforehand, so it will definitely be an exciting start. After that, we continue to Sweden and Kenya, and hopefully we’ll be able to build an extended WRC2 season.

“It’s great to start so early in the season, and with the updates we have on the car, I feel really positive and eager to get going. This is an important season for me to show both my speed and the capabilities of the car. Revisiting the same rallies as last year will be a valuable opportunity to take the next step.

“The FIA Rally Star programme has now come to an end, but being able to start another WRC2 season proves the programme was a success. I want to thank everyone who made it possible; it has truly changed my life. I’ll carry the logo with me throughout my career, and I hope I can make everyone proud. A huge thank you also goes to my personal sponsors, whose support has made this upcoming season possible."

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/89553f_97b48b76de894181ae8624d08507c030~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_1455,h_970,al_c,q_90/89553f_97b48b76de894181ae8624d08507c030~mv2.webp

https://www.m-sport.co.uk/single-post/romet-j%C3%BCrgenson-to-contest-opening-rounds-of-fia-wrc2-in-2026

Tom206wrc
20th December 2025, 09:38
Pablo Sarrazin in the Citroën C3 for Monte-Carlo ;)

Tom206wrc
22nd December 2025, 12:16
Eric Camilli with Skoda and Orsàk Rally Team in WRC2 ;)

Tom206wrc
24th December 2025, 11:30
Matteo Chatillon, 8 rounds of WRC2 in a Skoda ;)

Jarek Z
27th December 2025, 18:33
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Jarek Z
27th December 2025, 18:34
M-Sport is pleased to confirm that rising Estonian talent Romet Jürgenson will return to the team for the opening rounds of the 2026 FIA WRC2 championship, continuing his progression in the Ford Fiesta Rally2

Jürgenson is also present on the entry list for 2026 Janner Rally, the first round of Austrian Rally Championship:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries/97074-lkw-friends-on-the-road-jannerrallye-powered-by-wimberger-2026/

Fast Eddie WRC
29th December 2025, 17:51
Toyota boss J-M Latvala has bought the WRC2 Printsport rally team:

https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/toyota-wrc-team-boss-buys-top-wrc2-squad/10787173/

wyler
30th December 2025, 11:38
italians:
promising youngster giovanni trentin will be contesting: sweden, canary, portugal, greece, finland, italy in a skoda by delta rally

also in a skoda by delta rally roberto daprà will also contest at least 6 rounds (rumored monte, croatia, canary, portugal, greece, italy )

Managarium
5th January 2026, 17:38
Does anybody knows when is going to be livery 2026 presentation?

deephouse
6th January 2026, 03:29
I don't expect nothing new with liveries. Only M-Sport will nail it as usual.

M3 Jambo
6th January 2026, 10:22
Think TGR has https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/toyota-goes-bold-for-2026-wrc-livery/

Fast Eddie WRC
6th January 2026, 11:04
As this is the WRC2 Thread, here's the new livery of Chris Ingram :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G9-loXpXkAATxhD?format=jpg&name=900x900

Krigen
7th January 2026, 17:12
According to this article https://www.parcferme.no/forhandler-med-fabrikker-om-vm-eventyr/220483 Evind Brynildsen will not do Norwegian championchip this year, he has sold his Toyota Yaris GR2, and is in talks with Hyundai, Skoda and Ford about doing a full season in ERC or WRC 2 with also option for 27 wirh new regulations

rp
8th January 2026, 06:50
Fabio Schwarz (Toyota) will continue in WRC2 starting from Sweden.

Andre Oliveira
9th January 2026, 18:22
Bernhard ten Brinke / Tom Woodburn
Toyota GR Yaris Rally2 (Step Five Motorsport)

Sweden
Croatia
Portugal
Greece
Estonia
Italy

https://scontent.fopo4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t51.82787-15/612952615_18551172979004629_5141988538004652823_n. webp?stp=dst-jpg_tt6&_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=PyeOTuPj7SUQ7kNvwEu7Rci&_nc_oc=AdkCBiQut02lPFHsyqNzgPry6zizWu3aCEPQNFZZsxY WUzPION_AmrR4V0O7YrGBfRY&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.fopo4-1.fna&_nc_gid=ticW11tZPGFPZj9R5KCFXQ&oh=00_AfoFyVOcIy1cz4fUuIgmu-mqzNQbLck3ho0ByHjeHrLCIA&oe=69673B53

wyler
9th January 2026, 19:33
dapra's new livery:
https://www.instagram.com/p/DTTX6SWjUYp/?igsh=MWRzZWRlanlyMXpkNA%3D%3D&img_index=1

HarriK
10th January 2026, 17:32
There is rumours that Teemu Suninen will do Sweden (and other rallies) with Rally2 Toyota.

Negaiss
10th January 2026, 17:58
There is rumours that Teemu Suninen will do Sweden (and other rallies) with Rally2 Toyota.

This would be great, because Suninen has natural speed, but too many mistakes and uncompetetive Hyundai Rally2 ended his career. But he is not old yet and could perform well in Sweden with Yaris.

Jarek Z
10th January 2026, 18:20
Chris Ingram is testing his car in snowy conditions in Poland. He will drive Toyota GR Yaris Rally2 from Rallytechnology team in Monte Carlo. Poland is currently full of snow:
https://www.facebook.com/rajdpolski/posts/pfbid0JNWJboH7iFgJ5zJBuzLQeC9esWj6LbqgCUr3ZiKWUdZc 9wWx9Q7rapttSnoQDeXnl

Fast Eddie WRC
10th January 2026, 19:51
Chris Ingram is testing his car in snowy conditions in Poland. He will drive Toyota GR Yaris Rally2 from Rallytechnology team in Monte Carlo. Poland is currently full of snow:
https://www.facebook.com/rajdpolski/posts/pfbid0JNWJboH7iFgJ5zJBuzLQeC9esWj6LbqgCUr3ZiKWUdZc 9wWx9Q7rapttSnoQDeXnl

Wasn't Kajto with that team last season?

rp
11th January 2026, 08:06
Wasn't Kajto with that team last season?

Yes

HarriK
15th January 2026, 04:40
https://rallyjournal.com/now-its-official-teemu-suninen-returns-to-the-wrc-with-janni-hussi/

AMSS
15th January 2026, 08:37
Roope Korhonen to contest full 7 WRC program with Printsport starting from Sweden, announced today in social media

Rallyper
15th January 2026, 11:15
Roope Korhonen to contest full 7 WRC program with Printsport starting from Sweden, announced today in social media

And Rautio paying, according to finnish friend.

Jarek Z
17th January 2026, 10:46
Chris Ingram's livery for Monte Carlo Rally is inspired by Manchester City blue and Monaco’s red-and-white flag, dedicated to his son Romeo. The design forms part of a wider concept that will see a unique livery revealed at each event throughout the 2026 season.

More details:
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1433269988157167&set=a.206581794159332

https://scontent-waw2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/615161368_1433269991490500_7044412882296104642_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=833d8c&_nc_ohc=6BRp2nACUhoQ7kNvwH954-3&_nc_oc=Adlv1QOOC8lx7wOmqKLJ0A6x92wqMNmqkAKsksNqsGR fs4NzEvBX6ApUj1Be28y63M0&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-waw2-1.xx&_nc_gid=CWA-yrRfBwZDqSRG-Xo6eQ&oh=00_AfqpPzrbyNBVvHSeKtMELBmFdk8pVl_jPJ3KGVV6wkOs zQ&oe=697155C5

Jarek Z
17th January 2026, 10:58
Wasn't Kajto with that team last season?

Yes. Actually, to be precise, there were two teams - Rallytechnology and Rallylab - and last year they decided to join forces, as Rallylab-Technology:
http://www.rallytechnology.com/news.php?id=317

Fast Eddie WRC
17th January 2026, 13:29
Yes. Actually, to be precise, there were two teams - Rallytechnology and Rallylab - and last year they decided to join forces, as Rallylab-Technology:
http://www.rallytechnology.com/news.php?id=317

He's moved to Team Orlen this year, but what car, back in a Śkoda ?

Fast Eddie WRC
17th January 2026, 13:52
Ingram testing with Rallylab-Technology:

https://www.facebook.com/100063488922866/posts/1475647837894833/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

Fast Eddie WRC
23rd January 2026, 14:59
"Full season" in WRC2 for Ingram...

https://www.wrc.com/en/news/ingram-targets-strong-wrc2-return-as-full-season-campaign-begins

Jarek Z
25th January 2026, 10:03
WRC2 Day 1 & 2 Highlights from Rallye Monte-Carlo 2026:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34JfG_4ejyg

Jarek Z
25th January 2026, 10:05
Highlights from Day 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jOWRaiqltY

106 sport
26th January 2026, 07:47
"Full season" in WRC2 for Ingram...

https://www.wrc.com/en/news/ingram-targets-strong-wrc2-return-as-full-season-campaign-begins

Good news. I expect to see him in Gran Canaria next april.

wyler
26th January 2026, 10:08
rumors about leo rossel with lancia too, from gran canaria.

106 sport
26th January 2026, 12:10
rumors about leo rossel with lancia too, from gran canaria.

Very interesting, so would there be 3 Lancias in Gran Canaria?

Andre Oliveira
26th January 2026, 15:04
rumors about leo rossel with lancia too, from gran canaria.

I heard Croatia.