[WRC] Delfi Rally Estonia 2025 [Archive]

eib1

23rd June 2025, 14:32

https://www.rallyestonia.com/

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Fast Eddie WRC

23rd June 2025, 14:37

So Sébastien Ogier wont compete in all of the remaining WRC rounds.

Kras

24th June 2025, 09:18

So Sébastien Ogier wont compete in all of the remaining WRC rounds.

It's easier to pad your win count with favourable starting positions and pretend like you would easily win WDC if you bothered to try

meh

29th June 2025, 15:04

There is a warm-up rally for Ott - South-Estonia Rally on 4 - 5 July.

https://lounaeestirally.ee/competitors/?lang=en

Tauri_J

29th June 2025, 16:26

Actually surprised that only Ott is starting there

Corcaíoch

29th June 2025, 16:42

Surprised Kalle in particular isn't going there given how unhappy he has been with the Hankook tyres on gravel so far

saepuru

29th June 2025, 19:31

I expect canarian level of performance from Kalle.

Tauri_J

29th June 2025, 19:59

I expect canarian level of performance from Kalle.

You're gonna be disappointed.

flat_right

30th June 2025, 05:42

You're gonna be disappointed.

But I bet he won't be so lost like in Greece. He likes fast rallies and usually you can do much better in rallies which suit you more.

EstWRC

30th June 2025, 05:56

Time will tell. Maybe he finds the click with the tyres and machine like he did on Canaries and dominates. But I personally highly doubt it cause he has been struggling a lot on the gravel and the performance has been so up and down even by stage by stage on rallies. Sardegna was a good example where he was very slow on some stages and then very very fast on some (power stage for example)

CeskyOndra

30th June 2025, 07:55

Kalle will be the one to beat in Estonia. Mark my words.

focus206

30th June 2025, 10:24

It could be that Kalle finds Hankook more to his liking on fast gravel, and it could be that Tanak won't find a good setup for fast gravel, like he was able to find it for slower gravel rallies. But on the other hand, it could also be that we will see a repeat of Portugal/Sardegna/Acropolis, no way of knowing right now.

flat_right

30th June 2025, 10:56

Tänak will have a proper preparation for Rally Estonia and Finland. Today he is testing in Finland, getting used to speed and this weekend he is doing a local rally in South of Estonia.

Fast Eddie WRC

30th June 2025, 11:00

How much will (still) opening the road hinder Evans here ? I hope not so much as he's been tortured enough.

CeskyOndra

30th June 2025, 11:21

How much will (still) opening the road hinder Evans here ? I hope not so much as he's been tortured enough.

Looking back to previous editions, Kalle won there 2 times from starting 1st on the road. Yeah, but that was him in his prime.

trykmann

30th June 2025, 12:03

Looking back to previous editions, Kalle won there 2 times from starting 1st on the road. Yeah, but that was him in his prime.

Also 2022 Hyundai was nowhere with their car and 2023 Tänak already had a 5 minute penalty before the start.

TypeR

3rd July 2025, 07:21

Solberg with rally1! Awesome!

240RS

3rd July 2025, 07:52

Solberg speaks on Estonia drive:

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/why-solbergs-ready-for-biggest-moment-of-my-life/

Fast Eddie WRC

3rd July 2025, 08:42

A well-deserved second chance for Oliver. I hope he has a great rally and sets some good times.

Rallyper

3rd July 2025, 10:36

And he should have no pressure at all. Just have fun and learn.

wyler

3rd July 2025, 10:57

being around pajari would be good enough.

Dimitris

3rd July 2025, 11:48

My Rally Estonia route preview: https://www.powerslideblog.com/wrc-route-previews/2025/rally-estonia-2025-route-preview

Similar to previous years, with some mostly new stuff on Sunday.

EstWRC

3rd July 2025, 14:46

Proper power stage, 24kms, has to be one of the longest if not the longest in the history?

NoBudgetWRT

3rd July 2025, 15:11

Proper power stage, 24kms, has to be one of the longest if not the longest in the history?

Longest or not but still 41 cars. Is it the shortest entry list ever?

EstWRC

3rd July 2025, 15:21

And your point is?

rallyfiend

3rd July 2025, 15:30

Proper power stage, 24kms, has to be one of the longest if not the longest in the history?

23.37km just last weekend in Acropolis. So Estonia is not so special.

I think that's a lot more challenging than 24.20km in Estonia.... And of course with so few cars in the rally, the road condition will be even EASIER in Estonia for the second pass on the Power Stage!

rallyfiend

3rd July 2025, 15:31

Proper power stage, 24kms, has to be one of the longest if not the longest in the history?

23.37km just last weekend in Acropolis. So this accomplishment in Estonia is not so special.

I think that's a lot more challenging in Greece than 24.20km in Estonia.... And of course with so few cars in the rally, the road condition will be even EASIER in Estonia for the second pass on the Power Stage!

Finland is 23.98km this year too.

pedro16

3rd July 2025, 16:10

The longest power stage ever is probably Almodovar from Portugal 2013 - 52km
https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-de-Portugal-2013/Almodovar
Sunday had 150km of stages

EstWRC

3rd July 2025, 17:39

Thanks. I meant more recent times not so far back but good info anyway.

But got the message from here, the entry list is too short (yeah like you follow all the 70+ cars on the other events) and the event is nothing special.

EstWRC

11th July 2025, 08:05

Tauri_J

12th July 2025, 05:50

looking at the longer weather forecast then it seems it will rain the whole week now before the rally but then a nice estonian summer weather exactly in the time when the rally starts.

but this can change any time.

Weather forecast is a mess right now. It changes constantly every day. Now it shows thunderous rain every day of the rally.

I'd rather take constant dry conditions or Kalle will run away with it or it will be a lottery who gets a downpour and who not.

WRCStan

12th July 2025, 12:23

Is Sesks likely to pull more travelling fans from Latvia?

SubaruNorway

12th July 2025, 12:57

I'm coming from Norway for Solberg at least, decided on Thursday to go :)
Bit warm for my liking but weather looks almost perfect
https://www.yr.no/nb/v%C3%A6rvarsel/daglig-tabell/2-588335/Estland/Tartu%20fylke/Tartu%20linn/Tartu

TypeR

12th July 2025, 17:49

from Estonian FB rally group - haven't won for some time, so multitalent Kalle is doing some workbite :D
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1AkwGxgMUF/

meh

13th July 2025, 07:21

Weather forecast is a mess right now. It changes constantly every day. Now it shows thunderous rain every day of the rally.

Estonia is small, but it is still a lottery, which area gets some rain and which does not. There has been some interesting weather during the last few days (read: thunderstorms).

Is Sesks likely to pull more travelling fans from Latvia?

Sure. The rally location is so close to Latvia, that for most of latvians it is at least the same easy to go to watch the rally as estonians.

I'm coming from Norway for Solberg at least, decided on Thursday to go :)

I have been postponing the decision because too lazy to organize - but if the guys from Norway already show up and the weather looks promising, I'm losing arguments why not to go.

If anyone else needs "a decider", then watch a video from 2023: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAlI3H1DGQU

SubaruNorway

13th July 2025, 07:23

Is there no map with all access roads to the stages for this event? Just to get a quick overlook, hassle looking through all google map links

SubaruNorway

13th July 2025, 07:27

I have been postponing the decision because too lazy to organize - but if the guys from Norway already show up and the weather looks promising, I'm losing arguments why not to go.

If anyone else needs "a decider", then watch a video from 2023: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAlI3H1DGQU

It was a bit tricky, but found some direct Norwegian flight to Riga late on Tuesday night, so should park up near SS19 around 3am and sleep in the car first night.
Rental from Easycars at 282€ included 40€ border crossing and airbnb near train station in Tartu, so hopefully everything works out, only been on a weekend trip to Tallin before.
First loop on Friday is not great for spectating with the tight forest though but lets see what i can do, need to buy a saw at least!

SubaruNorway

14th July 2025, 12:51

Someone has sendt a message but Dm's are down (Database error) so post it to me on insta or any other place you know me from!
Tor Andre

Fast Eddie WRC

14th July 2025, 17:07

Is Sesks likely to pull more travelling fans from Latvia?

Sesks new livery with the Latvian flag colours...

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/sesks-new-livery-for-estonia-revealed/

Dontcut

15th July 2025, 04:42

Basically every day it is raining. Is Tänak in grips with the car on rainy conditions. Usually they are struggling when grip is low. And I don't know if they tested in rainy conditions. Same time, Kalle adores these muddy conditions.

Tauri_J

15th July 2025, 05:58

Yeah Toyota obviously better in mud and wet.

Today again raining heavily. Tomorrow a slight chance for a rain but then should be dry till saturday.
Knock on wood :laugh:
https://i.postimg.cc/4yxzzNWP/ilm.png (https://postimg.cc/62F2KwJ4)

Its been a ridicilously wet summer. I wouldnt park on fields unless you want to get stuck.

SubaruNorway

15th July 2025, 06:33

Again i get DM notification but not able to open, database error, who was it?
Is there a magazine somewhere maybe?

SubaruNorway

15th July 2025, 07:06

EstWRC

15th July 2025, 11:23

Maps with specator areas and closed roads for 1€, monthly sub.
Guess closed on most of them means open road just closed near the stage?

https://sport.delfi.ee/artikkel/120389384/interaktiivne-kaart-abivahend-delfi-rally-estoniaks-koik-kiiruskatsed-koos-pealtvaatamisaladega

spectator areas you can also find on their own site https://www.rallyestonia.com/en/spectators/general-information/spectator-areas/

SubaruNorway

15th July 2025, 14:45

spectator areas you can also find on their own site https://www.rallyestonia.com/en/spectators/general-information/spectator-areas/

Yeah, but it took so long clicking through all the links, i just want to see what areas to avoid because of people hehe

TypeR

15th July 2025, 16:23

Startlist even shorter now - 37 cars only (4 withdrawn - Bulacia, Mauro, Kogure, Soylu)

Fast Eddie WRC

15th July 2025, 16:49

Kalle: fast rallies = fast look

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gv6kkWlXAAAAmbG?format=jpg&name=900x900

EstWRC

16th July 2025, 12:13

Recce interviews

https://youtu.be/RbO6rkLZCL8?si=lMh91VKfoyg9advN

TypeR

16th July 2025, 15:47

So far Solberg fastest, Neuville 2nd!
Solberg +34kmh
Neuville +18kmh

edit: Zaldivar fastest +42kmh

(all over speedlimit in 30kmh zone on recce :D )

EstWRC

16th July 2025, 16:17

Shakedown is at 9 or 11 local time?

YouTube link and official WRC has posted 11 local time but everywhere else it is 9 local time

rallyfiend

16th July 2025, 16:33

Seems P2’s run first here.

Then the P1 group from 11. Maybe they have scrutineering in the morning

satnav

16th July 2025, 16:57

This explains the different times for shakedown, P1 cars are being scrutineered in the morning.

Thursday 17 July
07:00 - 09:30 Sealing for Rally1 cars Team service area in Service Park
09:01 - 10:45 Shakedown P2 Uniküla
09:30 - 10:00 Weights scales for Rally1 cars Scrutineering tent in Service Park
09:30 - 10:00 Re-check for P2, P3 and non-priority cars Scrutineering tent in Service Park
11:01 - 13:00 Shakedown P1 and invited drivers Uniküla
13:01 - 15:00 Shakedown P2 + P3 + non-priority drivers Uniküla
14:00 - 15:30 FIA WRC Media Pen Dedicated area in Service Park
15:30 Publication of Start List for Ceremonial Start

SubaruNorway

16th July 2025, 20:37

Thanks for the heads up! Luckily i only have ss2 and 3 left to recce, but had planned on leaving around 11

satnav

16th July 2025, 21:46

The Sportity code for Estonia is WRCEST25

Always a good idea to have this as any updates will always be on there.

There's been a few fines for speeding on recce already

satnav

16th July 2025, 22:48

The start list for shakedown ;

https://app-cdn.sportity.com/df10ff55-0f1e-4319-bd4e-e850b47f2886/0b4908c9-ad7d-4ecb-8e51-eb5c75a47c23_Start%20List%20for%20Shakedown.pdf

Steve Boyd

16th July 2025, 23:38

The Sportity code for Estonia is WRCEST25For those without the app, or who wish to access with a PC you can use this link:
https://webapp.sportity.com/channel/WRCEST25

Andre Oliveira

17th July 2025, 06:26

Or acess via eWRC. Every rally has a tab for that: https://www.ewrc-results.com/sportity/90023-delfi-rally-estonia-2025/

Rallyper

17th July 2025, 06:48

It´s 11.00 local time, 10.00 CEST.
Must say it´s been confusing about SD. Itinerary showed only SD starts 08.01. Nothing more. The usual thing is Rally1 goes out first. I never saw anything else, although Pantealex said it´s been done before...

Lead

17th July 2025, 07:17

Virves wont do even a single shakedown run?

Dontcut

17th July 2025, 07:20

Few days has passed and looks like we get completely dry rally. Roads are wet and moist but they also drying every hour. Still, not so much road cleaning to suffer for Evans and others.

meh

17th July 2025, 07:22

Few days has passed and looks like we get completely dry rally. Roads are wet and moist but they also drying every hour. Still, not so much road cleaning to suffer for Evans and others.

Just the surface will get dry, but I think when first cars dig through, the packed and moist part comes out.

jiipee64

17th July 2025, 07:37

Pajari, Katsuta, Solberg
I have a feeling that at least one of those guys will be on podium

meh

17th July 2025, 07:37

Nice one from Solberg, 4th fastest for the 1st shakedown run.

EstWRC

17th July 2025, 07:39

Yep. Great time from Oliver

flat_right

17th July 2025, 07:41

So happy for for Oliver. Glad he got his chance with a very good car.

And going to be a very nervous weekend for Ott fan. God this is fast.

meh

17th July 2025, 07:44

Gentlemen, I will soon hit the road to Tartu and will most likely be in read-only mode for this weekend from the forum. If anyone wants to say hi during some evening and have some rally talks we can figure it out.

I sincerely hope that everyone is doing well for the rally, and we will have an epic speed-fest.

Fast Eddie WRC

17th July 2025, 08:50

Solberg 3rd fastest on Run 2 !
If he can show this pace on the rally he will shame some of his fellow TGR drivers and many Rally1 regulars.

Tauri_J

17th July 2025, 08:52

What a shitty quality SD stream had. If you want to attract new fans then Thats not the way to do it.

meh

17th July 2025, 08:55

Solberg 3rd fastest on Run 2 !
If he can show this pace on the rally he will shame some of his fellow TGR drivers and many Rally1 regulars.

I really hope he will do. It will be a proper kick to the ego for Pajari and Taka first, and for sure for Evans if Solberg happens to be faster.

But, early days, first runs in Shakedown do not say how much anyone is pushing, and many are just getting used to the speed if they lack test-days. Saying that, it does not take anything away from Solberg's good times - those are better than expected.

meh

17th July 2025, 08:56

What a shitty quality SD stream had. If you want to attract new fans then Thats not the way to do it.

Yes, I was surprised as well. Estonia does not have any mountains, there are no weather reasons, so it was underperformance for sure. Hopefully, it was an alarm to get it fixed for the rally itself.

Fast Eddie WRC

17th July 2025, 09:25

What a shitty quality SD stream had. If you want to attract new fans then Thats not the way to do it.

Totally agree, a literal turn off for new fans.

Ok the trees do affect the signal from the cars onboards, but they couldve had some stage-side cameras but there were none.

Fast Eddie WRC

17th July 2025, 11:43

Rovanpera the man to beat after SD..

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/rovanpera-clear-at-estonia-shakedown/

Dontcut

17th July 2025, 12:05

Tänak already commenting that it's not best feeling in the car and also something was broke on SD 1st run which they managed to fix by replacing many parts. Is it real or playing down their expectations?

Tauri_J

17th July 2025, 12:28

B group

17th July 2025, 13:04

I don't want to believe that a reservation is being prepared for a potential loss against Toyota.

Fast Eddie WRC

17th July 2025, 14:12

Tanak writes off home victory chances !

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/tanak-writes-off-his-estonia-victory-chances/

EstWRC

17th July 2025, 14:36

For sure mind games. The shakedown times were good

EstWRC

17th July 2025, 15:14

Shakedown

https://youtu.be/_g4JO2qShb8?si=cspt8O2UEYMaz-fS

https://youtu.be/hUU8z_KI_5o?si=q4eFmAD_ks0hgecQ

CeskyOndra

17th July 2025, 15:49

Any translations from the ceremonial start?

TypeR

17th July 2025, 16:02

Tanak writes off home victory chances !

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/tanak-writes-off-his-estonia-victory-chances/
Joke story..

Shouldn't say that before his home event with tens of thousands of fans coming to see him..

Corcaíoch

17th July 2025, 16:28

Much nicer to see a gravel rally start with a gravel SSS than a street stage.

Dontcut

17th July 2025, 16:31

"All crews are strongly reminded to comply with all traffic rules and regulations, especially to
respect the speed limits.
The police will be monitoring driving behaviour and speeds throughout the rally.
The police may stop a car that is driven at excessive speed and hold the car for 45 minutes for
the driver to 'cool down'."

NoBudgetWRT

17th July 2025, 16:48

archie106

17th July 2025, 16:56

Solberg certainly attacking SSS1, hopefully he keeps it on the road tomorrow...

Tauri_J

17th July 2025, 17:28

Is that really a thing according to the law or just scare tactics?

It is. But No way they do that for rally drivers. Isnt that a retirement? How long can one be late to a time control?

NoBudgetWRT

17th July 2025, 17:31

It is. But No way they do that for rally drivers. Isnt that a retirement? How long can one be late to a time control?

Maybe 17min?

PLuto

17th July 2025, 17:34

Maybe 17min?

No, it is 30 min.

fantastic.priit

17th July 2025, 17:46

Joke story..

Shouldn't say that before his home event with tens of thousands of fans coming to see him..
It's better to be honest than to create an illusion for the fans.

dimviii

17th July 2025, 18:18

Virves with 5h overall time

EstWRC

17th July 2025, 18:54

And Linnamae 8th. So three Estonians in top10

Fast Eddie WRC

17th July 2025, 21:39

The second group of WRC2 drivers gained quite a lot of time with the cleaner road. It was harsh on the first guys, especially Romet Jürgenson.

Tauri_J

18th July 2025, 05:40

Seems like a crazy push already, hard to watch lol

CeskyOndra

18th July 2025, 06:07

Pajari being beaten by Solberg by probably 20 seconds will be hard pillow to swallow for him in the first stage..

BlueStrike

18th July 2025, 06:08

Well, this weekend ought to be a lot of fun if Oliver can keep this up.

Mackie

18th July 2025, 06:08

How is he doing this? I mean, is he killing the tires, almost crashing every turn? 21,5 seconds...

jonkka

18th July 2025, 06:11

How is he doing this? I mean, is he killing the tires, almost crashing every turn? 21,5 seconds...

Which 21,5 seconds?

archie106

18th July 2025, 06:12

Great stage by Oliver, helped by road position but looked like really nice committed driving from the onboard! 21.5 faster than Pajari is insane

Mackie

18th July 2025, 06:13

Which 21,5 seconds?

Difference between Pajari and Solberg on the stage. I see Pajari says the car is not alright.

denkimi

18th July 2025, 06:14

Solberg will crash.

CeskyOndra

18th July 2025, 06:15

Solberg wasn't on the edge. He looked very comfortable and under control.. Just great driving style, preparing the car well before the corner.

240RS

18th July 2025, 06:15

Road position is definitely helping where Solberg is concerned, but its worrying that the MSport cars directly behind him are already nearly a second a kilometre off his pace!!!

spyros

18th July 2025, 06:15

WTF Oliver, beating Kalle and Ott is something big, hope stays like this.

Mackie

18th July 2025, 06:16

Solberg wasn't on the edge. He looked very comfortable and under control.. Just great driving style, preparing the car well before the corner.

Thank you, what I was hoping for, but couldn't quite belive...

CeskyOndra

18th July 2025, 06:18

Also Neuville really surprised me with his time there, being on the same pace as Kalle.

jonkka

18th July 2025, 06:20

Road position is definitely helping where Solberg is concerned, but its worrying that the MSport cars directly behind him are already nearly a second a kilometre off his pace!!!

How is that worrying? M-Sport has been serious backmarker for quite some time now.

240RS

18th July 2025, 06:25

How is that worrying? M-Sport has been serious backmarker for quite some time now.

I had high hopes that Sesks, in particular, would bridge the gap to the Toyotas and Hyundais this weekend. But it does appear the lack of comparative development is starting to show.

Tauri_J

18th July 2025, 06:26

Road position is definitely helping where Solberg is concerned, but its worrying that the MSport cars directly behind him are already nearly a second a kilometre off his pace!!!

Munster is embarrasing. Virves is as fast as him with slower car