[WRC] Delfi Rally Estonia 2025

[CeskyOndra]

So Tänak had all these years to slow down or held the position. Wasn’t even allowed to win in Greece 2022 with title chances but Thierry can fight whenever he wants

And cmon guys. That Tänak sentence was with a joke and he is his own biggest critic and he was pissed about himself not Oliver.

What do u mean, Neuville was clearly dominating in 2022 Greece and his win was deserved, how can u say "Wasn't allowed to win"? you mean "The win wasn't gifted to Tanak" instead?

We are in 8th round now and there isn't Kalle Rovanpera out in front dominating every event

[focus206]

So Tänak had all these years to slow down or held the position. Wasn’t even allowed to win in Greece 2022 with title chances but Thierry can fight whenever he wants


When did Tanak slow down in Hyundai? In CER last year he was told not to go flat out in one stage. Hyundai didn't even tell him to let it go in Japan and bring it home for the manufacturer title.

In Acropolis 2022 Tanak was 70+ points behind Kalle with 4 rounds to go. Kalle in Acropolis had 203 points, Tanak finished the season with 205 points, 4 rounds later. That's how big the title chances were. If you put it into prespective, Thierry has more chances this year than Tanak in 2022.

And tomorrow both Tanak and Neuville will push regardless for the Sunday and PS points, so whether or not Neuville is there, Tanak has to go flat out and take some risks to get bonus points.

[EstWRC]

Thierry has more chances this year than Tanak in 2022.

Yeah right…

Dream on

[focus206]

Yeah right…

Dream on

I don't think Thierry has real chances this year, but you mean to tell me that Tanak in 2022, with the most unrealiable car in recent memory and 72 points behind dominating Kalle with tank Yaris, with 4 rounds to go, had chances for the title? Not even close.
Be real and take off the nationalist glasses.

[doubled1978]

One (half) day left to reach glory for Oliver. If he wins, it will be remembered as one of the most unexpected wins in WRC.
I think it has been one of the best rallies of Neuville's career so far, considering it's fast gravel, putting up such a fight to Tanak in Estonia. But he might get just a 3rd place to show for it...

The last time I can recall a similar win was Makinen in Finland ‘94. One off drive and went and beat the top boys.

["Username"]

I have to say I am really impressed by Oliver. Before the start I thought it would be good for him if he just earned some top3 times, and finish the rally in top5. I mean he was carrying the RC2 car on his back literally for the last two years, he could have been quicker but he felt that the car was holding him back. I felt the same sensation when driving a lower class cars in some rally game. Like "oh come on I could have done this stage a minute faster with a better car". And I have not even once driven a rally car myself in real life. Now that he has tried the WRC car he knows that he is as fast as the top3 drivers in the world. Let's hope he will win the event and earn a contract for next year. It definitely will not be Hyundai but perhaps Toyota? Instead of Pajari? Because Taka will stay in Toyota until he is 60 years old or smth.

[Eli]

Can we please get Oliver in a Yaris Rally1 for Finland please? Been a sensation to watch, really hope he takes this one.

[SubaruNorway]

Hasn't been any rain on Sunday stages yet right? Looks like it might hit 18 around 10 according to windy, hard to tell and no radar on YR for this area
I planned almost all my stages they would be damp

[EstWRC]

I am close to the stages and it has rained overnight a little but it’s just little. Should make the sand compact and the grip even better.

But not sure if it has been the same also on the stage.

Btw engine change for Tänak for “caution”

[Odd]

Where is that engine change information from?

[Tanelv]

Hasn't been any rain on Sunday stages yet right? Looks like it might hit 18 around 10 according to windy, hard to tell and no radar on YR for this area
I planned almost all my stages they would be damp
You can see radar data here
https://www.ilmateenistus.ee/ilm/ilmavaatlused/radar/?lang=en#layers/precipitation,thunder

[EstWRC]

Where is that engine change information from?

Delfi rally blog

[Dontcut]

Radar shows that rain hits Hellenurme at 9:45.

[Tauri_J]

Radar shows that rain hits Hellenurme at 9:45.

Yes, massive rain heading for stages

https://www.ilmateenistus.ee/ilm/ilmavaatlused/radar/#layers/precipitation,thunder

[EstWRC]

Raining now on our way to power stage. But slightly. Nothing too major

[haris274]

Does anyone have corrupted picture in rally.tv?

[CeskyOndra]

Does anyone have corrupted picture in rally.tv?

Guys it works only in app, not in browser today

[erikli2]

Does anyone have corrupted picture in rally.tv?

Yep same here..

[Tanelv]

Does anyone have corrupted picture in rally.tv?
Same here, it seems that the TV app is even more affected, even the non-live was very pixelated, phone app seems slightly better.

[CeskyOndra]

Game on. Even Kalle can win now..

[Rallyper]

Does anyone have corrupted picture in rally.tv?

Now and then...

[EstWRC]

This is gonna be a nightmare for Tänak.

We are on power stage and it doesn’t rain like that here. It doesn’t rain at all where we are

[erikli2]

Rally TV app in my android tablet works fine, the TV-app has a lot of broken pixels.

[CeskyOndra]

Evans got lucky there also, can get ahead of Katsuta and Fourmaux.

[Dontcut]

Is Hyundai's windshield demister working today? :)

[Rallyper]

The talks about rubber arms of tennisplayers in crucial moment of a play, let´s hope Oliver doesn´t get the "same".

Having said that we must remember Oliver, as a teenager, done RX in 600 hp car in mud. Saw it many times.

[Tauri_J]

Advantage Toyota easily

[CeskyOndra]

Oh Adrien!

[Tauri_J]

Wow Ott flatout mode

[jonkka]

Neuville got 10s penalty for false start on SS18.

[Eli]

This makes me wish one of our gravel rallies in the calendar would be held in November to ensure rain, and no Saudi Arabia doesn’t count.

[Dontcut]

Neuville got 10s penalty for false start on SS18.
Robert Virves as well. Bad error to make for him. He doesn't need to hurry somewhere.

[Kras]

C'mon Oliver, just 2 more stages

[Tauri_J]

This makes me wish one of our gravel rallies in the calendar would be held in November to ensure rain, and no Saudi Arabia doesn’t count.

Just need Wales GB back

[Eli]

Just need Wales GB back

Didn’t want to be too obvious but as the years go by the chances of it coming back are none existent.

[CeskyOndra]

What a boring finish of PS..

[Doon]

It’s hard to judge how well Sesks has done in Estonia. His team mates aren’t the best, but he’s consistently beating them by a considerable margin. Maybe Puma is just so far behind the others, pace wise it’s a Rally 1.5 car.

[Negaiss]

It’s hard to judge how well Sesks has done in Estonia. His team mates aren’t the best, but he’s consistently beating them by a considerable margin. Maybe Puma is just so far behind the others, pace wise it’s a Rally 1.5 car.

Yes, I hope, this is a case too. Results kind of shows this is the case. Looks like probably just less power, than Toyota and Hyundai. On interviews Sesks is not worried or stressfull at all - feels like he knows this and accept this.

[trykmann]

Yes, I hope, this is a case too. Results kind of shows this is the case. Looks like probably just less power, than Toyota and Hyundai. On interviews Sesks is not worried or stressfull at all - feels like he knows this and accept this.

Even the Puma's top speeds are lower on the long straights compared to the other cars.

[Odd]

OK, im going to jump ahead of the action here, but wow, Solbergs 35p is sci-fi movie stuff, as much as Kalle getting stomped on by a minute in his favourite rally. By a dude who got to try the very same car for the first time. As an estonian im ofcourse a bit disappoint about the result, but greatness has to be recognized where due. What a job Oliver!!
Probably Pajari back to wrc2?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

OK, im going to jump ahead of the action here, but wow, Solbergs 35p is sci-fi movie stuff, as much as Kalle getting stomped on by a minute in his favourite rally. By a dude who got to try the very same car for the first time. As an estonian im ofcourse a bit disappoint about the result, but greatness has to be recognized where due. What a job Oliver!!
Probably Pajari back to wrc2?

That Kalle cant compete for the top places on his favourites rally is a big worry. Hankook tyres have the deal for another 2 years so he might have this struggle for a long time to come. If there's no improvement on gravel could we see him pull out again ? And if he does, Toyota would have Solberg as the perfect replacement.

[satnav]

Just need Wales GB back

I think most real rally fans want Wales back in the calendar however the Pumas have as much chance of winning a rally than this happening unfortunately.

[Päss1928]

If Oliver does not get a seat and Pajari keeps his seat at Toyota Rally1, there is some serious nepotism going on in Finland.

[Doon]

I’d be ditching Katsuta before Pajari.

[Päss1928]

I’d be ditching Katsuta before Pajari.

True, but that's less likely imo. If Oliver doesn't get a seat then I hope Toyota gets called out badly by the rally community.

[denkimi]

I’d be ditching Katsuta before Pajari.
Katsuta will stay untill some other japanese driver takes his seat or toyota quits. He's there only for matters of japanese pride.

[BleAivano]

Oliver for sure deserves more driving in WRC for Toyota , but perhaps not that easy depå on contractual situations for current drivers. I however think it will be original line up for Finland and depending on results there Oliver might be moved up for rest of season instead of Psjari or Kalle.

[CeskyOndra]

This disscusion wouldn't be needed if Ogier wasn't hungry for that 9th title.

[Sulland]

In my book this does not change 2025 plans. Oliver goal is to become world champion in WRC2.
For 2026 Toyota need to sign him. That could happen today, or next week, but I am guessing Latvala agree!

[Tauri_J]

Looks like dry weather for PS

[becher]

Even the Puma's top speeds are lower on the long straights compared to the other cars.

The top speed is limited by gearing not power.

[becher]

Replacing Rovanperä with Solberg for the rest of the season? Are you people drunk?

Also has everyone forgotten how impressive Pajari was last year? Sure Solberg overshadowed him here big time but he isn't a no hoper.

[EstWRC]

Looks like dry weather for PS

Sun was out and nice sky when we left about an hour ago.

[doubled1978]

Replacing Rovanperä with Solberg for the rest of the season? Are you people drunk?

Also has everyone forgotten how impressive Pajari was last year? Sure Solberg overshadowed him here big time but he isn't a no hoper.

I was about to say the same.
Some people on here need to check what they are smoking. Katsuta was dropped for a few rallies last year, the same could happen again easily on the back of this. I agree on Pajari, he has been given a learning year and has been driving steady all season, then on the first rally he might have been given the chance to have a go, he had an engine issue on day 1. That is rotten luck, but he will need to show a bit of speed in Finland.

[CeskyOndra]

Will Tanak slow down on PS to not being the championship leader?

[focus206]

Will Tanak slow down on PS to not being the championship leader?

Would be a bad idea to gift points away in my opinion. Plus Tanak 1st on the road in Finland is a match for Evans 2nd on the road.

[BleAivano]

Replacing Rovanperä with Solberg for the rest of the season? Are you people drunk?

Also has everyone forgotten how impressive Pajari was last year? Sure Solberg overshadowed him here big time but he isn't a no hoper.

no, not replacing but rather if there is a vaccancy, like iif Kelle decides he wants another break.

[EstWRC]

This is so unfair to Korhonen.

It’s now cleaning a lot and he will loose much to the late wrc2 starters

[EstWRC]

Congrats Virves and Linnamae!

Fantastic result!

[Tauri_J]

Village broadcast team

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No stage side cameras on the power stage except the last part on tarmac. Weird.

[becher]

no, not replacing but rather if there is a vaccancy, like iif Kelle decides he wants another break.

Ah well thats a difference of course.

[Tauri_J]

Will Tanak slow down on PS to not being the championship leader?

That is a 100% no

[PLuto]

It’s hard to judge how well Sesks has done in Estonia. His team mates aren’t the best, but he’s consistently beating them by a considerable margin. Maybe Puma is just so far behind the others, pace wise it’s a Rally 1.5 car.

Beating McErlean and Munster on fast gravel isnt nothing worth to mention for Sesks, on this surface he is far better driver than other two with any car...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice run by Pajari.

[Eli]

A bit of trivia, assuming Oliver gets safe to the finish it’ll be nearly 20 years since Petter’s win in Wales Rally GB (which was his 13th and last rally win) on his 14th Top Tier WRC start.

[jonkka]

Katsuta retired?

[Rallyper]

Yes.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Pretty disappointing event for Evans. His lead has now gone and not just due to road position. The rest of the year is like starting again but with his confidence reduced.

[Humber]

Is this Power Stage among the fastest ever held for a high average speed?

[Eli]

Katsuta retired?

Mechanical retirement.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Seems like Toyota are going to need Ogier again to fight for the Manufacturer title with Rovanpera struggling.

[jonkka]

Is this Power Stage among the fastest ever held for a high average speed?

Among, yes, but not fastest. For example 2022 Sweden PS was 131,42 kph.

[EstWRC]

Tänak is just so bad collecting Sunday points this year compared to last

[EstWRC]

Congratulations Oliver!

What an amazing drive!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

What a performance by Solberg.Truly incredible. Huge congrats.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Well done Elliott Edmondson too. Brilliant job.

[denkimi]

So does this mean that oliver is now better than kalle?

[EstWRC]

Oh boy that Kalles face there while watching

[jonkka]

So does this mean that oliver is now better than kalle?

By what metrics?

[CeskyOndra]

These faces of Champions :DDD

[bandit12]

Congrats to Oliver. Great perfomance.
And great rally.

[Eli]

Nice words by Ott about Oliver at the end there, shame he lost those 2 points in the power stage (one from super Sunday).

[satnav]

Well done Oliver and Elliott a fantastic result that not many could have predicted

Nice words at the stop line from Oliver as well

[mknight]

Big congratulations

I was very critical of Oliver up to and including last year due to him being reckless and always pushing to be fastest rather than using his head and driving slightly slower when needed.

This year it seems like it finally changed and he can back off when needed while keeping the top speed. The "slightly slower" time on powerstage seem to confirm that as well.

Toyota leadership is in a bit of a dilemma. Pajari has not improved as fast as hoped so far this year and Katsuta is the same for last few years. Yet ditching Pajari at this stage surely wouldn't make sense. Pressure on Katsuta?

[EstWRC]

Great podium celebrations!

And Tänak new leader in the championship

[flykas]

Very exciting stuff by Solberg. Such a comeback!

[BlueStrike]

Brilliant job by Oliver and Elliott. Genuinely brilliant, and perhaps a story that will finally give WRC some media momentum again. Great Friday, but Saturday was much more impressive thanks to equal road position.

Would love to see them get some more Rally1 starts on the events they’re not doing in Rally2., but I guess that depends on the availability of the fifth car. However, it seems clear now that Toyota will have a rather difficult game of musical chairs on their hands for 2026 if they don‘t want to drop Taka… which, as much as I like him, would be the logical move if not for his passport.

Lastly, first time in a very long time Ott has led a championship, no? Not ideal for Finland, but it‘s not like Elfyn has been doing much lately even when he wasn‘t on cleaning duties. He‘s won there from first on the road before, so let‘s see what‘s possible.

[dimviii]

congrats to Oliver! amazing performance!

[Odd]

And to the guy who was whining about Ott not recognizing Olivers achievement. Ott just said on the podium that he properly humiliated us full timers.

[Dontcut]

Oliver has to be in R1 in Finland, has to be. If TGR doesn't do that, massive disrespect. I would ditch Taka for Finland.

[Eli]

Great podium celebrations!

And Tänak new leader in the championship

When was the last time he led? Sweden 2023?

[focus206]

Amazing stuff by Oliver, surely this rally will go down in history for one of the most unexpected wins. And it didn't come just from road position.
Great performance by Neuville too, but not that many points obtained.
Tanak was the winner championship wise. I think Kalle and Evans can beat him for the title only with better reliability. Ogier is a wild card.

[CeskyOndra]

When was the last time he led? Sweden 2023?

Yes. And he retired in the first stage in Mexico :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GwTBodPX0AARaY1?format=jpg&name=medium

[Rallyper]

WRC history was made today. Great performance from Oliver and Elliot. Smart driving and still fast(est) paid out fully.

Let´s wait for next chapter.

[AndersX]

Beating McErlean and Munster on fast gravel isnt nothing worth to mention for Sesks, on this surface he is far better driver than other two with any car...

You need to measure Sesks vs Pajari. But clearly both big 2 are in league their own - M-Sport is clearly under developing and under-testing ( who has seen single PET FIN and EST video in YT or any other media from M-Sport). Obviously from drivers like Sesks and McErlean is not required to make heroics ( all remember Sunninen and Estonia) with falling behind tech. If they would drive faster with this car, they would overdrive with all the consequences.

[djip]

WRC history was made today. Great performance from Oliver and Elliot. Smart driving and still fast(est) paid out fully.

Let´s wait for next chapter.

Reminds me of Finland 1977 : Kyosty Hamalainen coming out of nowhere to win it for Ford in his first works drive. Unfortunately for Kyosty it remained a one-off and he did not deliver in the following years, neither in the WR, nor in the British Open Championship which was probably the second best series back then. Hopefully the future will be different for Oliver, much younger than Kyosty and the "full package" (fast on every surface).

[PLuto]

Reminds me of Finland 1977 : Kyosty Hamalainen coming out of nowhere to win it for Ford in his first works drive. Unfortunately for Kyosty it remained a one-off and he did not deliver in the following years, neither in the WR, nor in the British Open Championship which was probably the second best series back then. Hopefully the future will be different for Oliver, much younger than Kyosty and the "full package" (fast on every surface).

Kyosty came from nowhere, for sure Oliver didnt came from nowhere. He is doing WRC races for many years, before he did more than 10 starts there with the car of highest category. He almost won Kanepi stage in 2022 (beaten only by Lappi).

[doubled1978]

Kyosty came from nowhere, for sure Oliver didnt came from nowhere. He is doing WRC races for many years, before he did more than 10 starts there with the car of highest category. He almost won Kanepi stage in 2022 (beaten only by Lappi).

I said earlier in the thread, I think the closest I can think of was Makinen in Finland ‘94. He had done some rallies in the top class with Mazda and Nissan with little to shout about, but Ford gave him a car for Finland after Delecour’s accident and he basically did what Oliver has just done.


This is a feel good moment for the series, Oliver has now got the experience to know how to use his speed and manage the rallies. Brilliant job.

[focus206]

I said earlier in the thread, I think the closest I can think of was Makinen in Finland ‘94. He had done some rallies in the top class with Mazda and Nissan with little to shout about, but Ford gave him a car for Finland after Delecour’s accident and he basically did what Oliver has just done.


Other examples:
Safari specialist Ian Duncan winning Safari 1994 in works Toyota.
Mats Jonsson winning Sweden 1992 and 1993 with Toyota Sweden (only Sweden entered in '92, Sweden and RAC in '93)
Gianfranco Cunico winning Sanremo 1993 with Ford Italy (was only doing Italian championship)
Tony Fassina winning Sanremo 1979 with a semi works Lancia Stratos (was also doing only Italian championship)

[doubled1978]

Other examples:
Safari specialist Ian Duncan winning Safari 1994 in works Toyota.
Mats Jonsson winning Sweden 1992 and 1993 with Toyota Sweden (only Sweden entered in '92, Sweden and RAC in '93)
Gianfranco Cunico winning Sanremo 1993 with Ford Italy (was only doing Italian championship)
Tony Fassina winning Sanremo 1979 with a semi works Lancia Stratos (was also doing only Italian championship)

I discounted the African rallies back then because they were so tough, not really the same comparison. Didn’t Alain Orielle win one in a Group N Renault 5?
Jonsson and Cunico were definitely surprises, although I wouldn’t count them in the same way I would Oliver and Makinen. They were both experienced guys and the rallies they won didn’t have the best entries. Jonsson can say he went out and beat Kankkunen in the works car though. Cunico was only really against the works Fords, and they both blew up. Delecour was miles ahead when his engine went.
Fassina was a bit before me.
Oliver and Makinen went out and beat the best on pace in one-off drives, that to me makes them very special.

[SubaruNorway]

Almost lost for words after this week, decided last minute to go here and then we end up with a win for Oliver!

Here's my video, had a great time meeting friends on almost every stage as always!
https://youtu.be/t4isDEoDKmk?si=K3n4KQw1NK8Qg_Yx

[meh]

Almost lost for words after this week, decided last minute to go here and then we end up with a win for Oliver!

Basically, I came here to congratulate you, SubaruNorway, for your last-minute decision to witness Rally Estonia to support Solberg, and you were able to be part of such a historic moment!

The Shakedown showed a promise that something big may happen. The first proper stage SS2, showed that it is going to happen.

Why was I quite sure:
* he showed the speed that others were not able to show with proper push
* In Rally2, he has learned and practiced to keep the lead and drive under pressure
* The stakes were too high, it would be stupid to take too many risks and do something silly, but it also gave him huge pressure, and he delivered!

For sure, in a rally, everything can happen - a proper masterclass from Oliver.

The main surprise for me was that Solberg was able to fly with the Toyota, while Rovanperä and Evans were not.

Other comments Rally1:
* Tänak - can take 2nd places after the best Toyota 3 times in 4 rallies is quite some consistency, taking into account that he complains about the car a lot
* Neuville - maybe I'm stuck in old dogmas, but his speed was a bit surprise. Or maybe we should use Tänak's perspective and say that we should be surprised how bad were Tänak, Rovanperä etc compared to others. He seemed to enjoy the stages.
* Rovanperä - if there could be no Solberg in the rally, quite many could say that Toyota is bad, because even Rovanperä can not match Hyundais. Made a proper push on PowerStage, but otherwise, he is still lost. 2 years ago, he seemed unbeatable, and now he struggles to get the car working on gravel. Most likely, he is waiting for tarmac rallies already. I guess his ego or motivation got quite some kick from Solberg - "you see, the car is working well".
* Evans - he lost his speed quite some rallies ago, but got away with a lack of speed if we watch the scored points. This time, he did not gain positions because of the problems or retirements of others. To have a chance for the title, he needs to start driving again. One could even argue that he could be behind Taka and Pajari if they did not have problems. Most likely also struggles with the car setup like Rovanperä.
* Fourmaux - maybe I expected a bit more from speedwise, but in the big picture, I think he did his job well.
* Pajari - his future perspectives in the team got some new aspects for sure. I just wonder, if he keeps learning at a safe pace, can you learn the fast pace that way, or do you just get stuck in the safe mode?
* Takamoto - pity that he had problems, but even without that, I expected a bit more than 6th fastest stage times on average
* Sesks - I think he hoped a bit more, first comments at the stage end were in a bit different tone compared to later when reality hits in. Hard to say anything as I/we don't have any idea how competitive the car is.
* Munster and McErlean - they had their own tasks to do, although most of the others struggled to find the setup M-Sport is far behind everyone.


Rally2 - Virves dominated the field, and the job was well done. Yes, we did not have the usual Rally2 big names like Solberg, Rossel, Greensmith and Dapra - but who to blame?

Really interesting to see Rally Finland now - everyone in Rally2 got extra motivation to fight with Solberg now, because since Rally Estonia, they don't beat just a leader of Rally2, but The Guy Who Dominated In Rally1. We can also expect that Fins (Korhonen, Heikkilä, Lindholm, Latvala) are probably stronger in Finland than they were in Estonia. It will be interesting.

Rally as an event seems to be a master class again, hats off to Aava and the team. Yes, there are also things to be improved, and yes, this is what the team does for every next rally. Keep going!

PS, DirtFish - if you're going to make articles again based on my comments in the forum here, you should point to the source.

[trykmann]

* Neuville - maybe I'm stuck in old dogmas, but his speed was a bit surprise. Or maybe we should use Tänak's perspective and say that we should be surprised how bad were Tänak, Rovanperä etc compared to others. He seemed to enjoy the stages.


We maybe have to reconsider Neuville's pace on high speed events. Now when he had a more competitive car, then the speed was speed there, previously the Hyundai was just so bad and it didn't give him the confidence.

[EstWRC]

We maybe have to reconsider Neuville's pace on high speed events. Now when he had a more competitive car, then the speed was speed there, previously the Hyundai was just so bad and it didn't give him the confidence.

He has said himself that the testing now in Finland at their base has given him more understanding how to drive on those fast rallies.

Seems he really found something on Saturday with the car.

[EstWRC]

Almost lost for words after this week, decided last minute to go here and then we end up with a win for Oliver!

Here's my video, had a great time meeting friends on almost every stage as always!
https://youtu.be/t4isDEoDKmk?si=K3n4KQw1NK8Qg_Yx

Thank you for coming and awesome video like always!

Congrats on the Oliver win!

[CeskyOndra]

He has said himself that the testing now in Finland at their base has given him more understanding how to drive on those fast rallies.

Seems he really found something on Saturday with the car.

Yeah, but when it comes to being wet, Hyundai is miles behind Toyota.. We have to hope for dry Finland..

[satnav]

Yeah, but when it comes to being wet, Hyundai is miles behind Toyota.. We have to hope for dry Finland..

Thats not the forecast atm, looking like there's going to be rain

As always with weather forecasting the forecast has changed and is now looking like it will be good for the rally, the best way to know is when you get up in the morning and look out the window .....

[saco0o]

best wrc event since sesks debut. perfect. i was not even following the wrc that close anymore, more interested in erc and paddon in australia but eh, this one was awesome in every way. im kinda late trying to keep up with all the content cuz i was offline during the weekend. incredible.

[skarderud]

Fantastic weekend for the WRC, exactly what the sports need. An unexpected winner, that also shows some personality and emosions, perfect!

Its also make one think, what could all the other talents that tried and not sucseed in the Hyundai all this years managed in the Toyota?

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[ReRe]

My photogallery from WRC Estonia 2025: https://eu.zonerama.com/TomasR/Album/13599212

[meh]

Stat-fact, 53 500 unique spectators for Rally Estonia

https://sport.delfi.ee/artikkel/120392099/publikurekord-sundiski-delfi-rally-estoniast-sai-kohapeal-osa-53-500-inimest

For the context: Estonia has only 2 cities that have a population more than that.

Based on the article, around 40 000 Estonians were spectating on site, which is around 3% of the entire population of Estonia.

[paddocknews]

WRC Rally Estonia 2025 | Full Send & Big Jumps
https://youtu.be/fsyC7cD8OSE

[tbazsi95]

FULL ONBOARD - SS20 Solberg/Edmondson | WRC Delfi Rally Estonia 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4ZOLWv3KJI

[denkimi]

He has said himself that the testing now in Finland at their base has given him more understanding how to drive on those fast rallies.

Seems he really found something on Saturday with the car.
So on his 14th full season in wrc he finally figured out how to drove fast gravel rallies.

I'm still a fan of him, but he should have learned how to drive different rallies 10 years ago. He could have been a multiple champion by now.

[Doon]

Stat-fact, 53 500 unique spectators for Rally Estonia

https://sport.delfi.ee/artikkel/120392099/publikurekord-sundiski-delfi-rally-estoniast-sai-kohapeal-osa-53-500-inimest

For the context: Estonia has only 2 cities that have a population more than that.

Based on the article, around 40 000 Estonians were spectating on site, which is around 3% of the entire population of Estonia.

That's not very many is it. 13.5k foreign visitors is particularly poor. It looks like a fantastic event and beautiful country on the TV coverage. Maybe it's the close proximity to another country that puts people off visiting? I certainly does for me. Such a shame. :(

[meh]

I don't think it is a poor result and also I don't think that one certain country keeps visitors away from Estonia. Most of the visitors are coming from countries (Finland, Latvia) that have the same neighbor.

Being a visitor during the weekend, I think South Estonia has some reasonable limits - it was quite crowded already. To put there 2 times more, I think it is not enjoyable and manageable.

[EstWRC]

That's not very many is it. 13.5k foreign visitors is particularly poor. It looks like a fantastic event and beautiful country on the TV coverage. Maybe it's the close proximity to another country that puts people off visiting? I certainly does for me. Such a shame. :(

what?

thats a good result. our country is very small, its not even thinkable to host 100k 0r 200k visitors even if the stages were all over estonia, we wouldnt manage it.

already with this 53500 there was quite a much traffic and jams. first time ever that i also was in traffic jam during this rally and even two times.

[Franky]

I guess 100k would be possible only, if the extra 50k would be camping somewhere.

[Doon]

Excuse my naivety. It just doesn't seem like many for a World Championship event of any kind. Even though it's a fantastic event, i fear that the WRC wants to seek bigger markets and exposure.

[faateris]

Delfi Rally Estonia 2025 - photos - http://janisasaris.com/

JA

[bandit12]

Excuse my naivety. It just doesn't seem like many for a World Championship event of any kind. Even though it's a fantastic event, i fear that the WRC wants to seek bigger markets and exposure.
Like what and where?

[Doon]

Like what and where?

Anywhere with a population of more than 1.3 million.

[TypeR]

Anywhere with a population of more than 1.3 million.
Where is this 2019 WDC and top wrc guy Tanak from? Or 2022/24 junior champions..

[Doon]

Where is this 2019 WDC and top wrc guy Tanak from? Or 2022/24 junior champions..

Well, the current WDC comes from a county with a population of 10 times more, and they don’t have an event.

Estonia is one of my favourite events, I’m just being a realist, once another event comes along with more money and a bigger population, events like Estonia may well be lost. Take Saudi Arabia for example, they just had to hand over bags of cash, and have no current native drivers in rally 1 or 2 cars, but the manufacturers probably love it because there are lots of wealth people in SA.

[trykmann]

The numbers for Rally Estonia are not bad. This year it had 53511 visitors and Rally Finland had 81000 visitors.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The numbers for Rally Estonia are not bad. This year it had 53511 visitors and Rally Finland had 81000 visitors.

WRC.com quoted as follows re Rally Finland...

"250,000 fans made their way to the stages and Jyväskylä-based service park."

[CeskyOndra]

How do they count it? It's only people who bought the ticket in Estonia, or?

[trykmann]

WRC.com quoted as follows re Rally Finland...

"250,000 fans made their way to the stages and Jyväskylä-based service park."

That was a misunderstanding. 81000 tickets were sold:
https://sectorallyfinland.fi/en/2025/08/08/secto-rally-finland-2025-exceeded-expectations-largest-audience-of-the-decade/


The number of visits was a bit below 200k for Rally Estonia.

[Doon]

How many people actually buy tickets for these events? I imagine a number of locals do need to buy tickets. I only say this because, 81k spectators for Rally Finland sounds very low.

[SubaruNorway]

Yeah and with the digital tickets it's quite easy to not buy one, because nobody will go around and check your phone once you're into a stage.
Finland this year felt like a lot of people to me at least, and i mostly walk the forest to most spots even

[Steve Boyd]

Don't forget that if one person buys a pass for the full rally, that's one ticket. If that person goes to watch 5 stages that's 5 spectators.