[WRC] Safari Rally Kenya 2025

[Andre Oliveira]

39 entries: https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries/90018-safari-rally-kenya-2025/

RC1 10x
RC2 18x
RC3 3x
NAT 8x

[Morte66]

No Ogier. I thought he liked the Safari.

No Gryazin (my WRC2 guy) either.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Competition for Kajto in WRC2 this time.

[CeskyOndra]

The itinerrary looks massive this year, what is the Thursday stage and first Friday stage? That's new, isn't it?

[Katvala]

The itinerrary looks massive this year, what is the Thursday stage and first Friday stage? That's new, isn't it?https://www.ewrc-results.com/timetable/90018-safari-rally-kenya-2025/

384km! And a Sunday with more proper length too

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[Dimitris]

My route preview for the Safari Rally:

https://www.powerslideblog.com/wrc-route-previews/safari-rally-kenya-2025-route-preview

[Rallyper]

How is weather at this time of the year in Kenya? Is it dryer or more rainy?

[TypeR]

Noticed that Rovanpera, Evans and McErlean still had pirellis on their recce cars..

[CeskyOndra]

How is weather at this time of the year in Kenya? Is it dryer or more rainy?

Should be more rainy

[Fast Eddie WRC]

From Gemini AI:

Kenya experiences two rainy seasons: the "long rains" from March to May and the "short rains" from November to December, with the heaviest rainfall typically occurring in April.

Here's a more detailed breakdown
:
Long Rains (Masika): This period, from mid-March to May, brings the heaviest rainfall to most parts of Kenya.

Short Rains (Vuli): A shorter period of rain occurs in November and December.

Dry Season: The period from roughly mid-December to March is characterized by hot, usually rainless weather.

Rainfall Pattern: While prolonged rainfall isn't uncommon, rain often falls as torrential downpours, lasting for an hour or so, followed by sunshine and quickly drying ground.

[tbazsi95]

Detail of the inside face of the Ford Puma #rally1 hood showing the duct connecting the snorkel to the (centered) air box inlet to feed the engine with clean air for the upcoming @SafariRallyWRC

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid0vFfW6AusE4eN24G8DQQ 1NxQybeckGmrh1TKzW6VuVEJiNL2zZ6p9MNjNpNSombyJl&id=100057456128851

[EstWRC]

Recce interviews by dirtfish

https://youtu.be/T6clHrpfcwQ?si=Qa2SGl5CGcNvXEHR

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hyundai revised snorkel...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GmUqOyLbkAA4slf?format=jpg&name=medium

[archie106]

Drivers not going to be giving in-depth interviews at stage end this weekend.

Whether this changes the approach to fines by the FIA is another story.

[meh]

Drivers not going to be giving in-depth interviews at stage end this weekend.

Whether this changes the approach to fines by the FIA is another story.

It is naive to expect immediate change, but there is a need to fight back. During shakedown, some answers were also given in their own language (Evans, Neuville) instead of English.

[archie106]

Oh for sure, I support the drivers doing this 100 %. Its one of the few things that they can do which the FIA have no control over. I really hope the FIA come to their senses soon.

[tbazsi95]

Shakedown LIVE | WRC Safari Rally Kenya 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9lyO_yQvV0

[spyros]

Kalle fastest so far, maybe he finds something.

[AndersX]

Oh for sure, I support the drivers doing this 100 %. Its one of the few things that they can do which the FIA have no control over. I really hope the FIA come to their senses soon.

I think it is stupid. Just avoid cursing and things will be ok; world is crazy enough today - to protest for tolerance of bad language is beyond common sense. We already have bad ratings, allowing cursing and bad language will rise popularity ot rally? Wrong focus, folks!

Size of the fine is a different matter. I am sure it was possible to re-negotiate it or appeal.

[maailmameister]

It's not about allowing swearing. It's a protest against these abnormal fines. When a rider comes from a stage, adrenaline is at its peak and accidentally says a bad word, it has to be understandable. This gagging of riders is not ok, we all want to get genuine emotion from riders after a stage. But we can't do that if they have to think about every word they say. They can't be so damn sensitive that the word fuck immediately scares them away. Kindergarten children already know these words, nothing will happen from these few words. It's a matter of principle.

[TypeR]

People love rallying and stage end interviews with pure emotions.
Ofcourse ,,F this, f that'' in media zone or service isn't acceptable, but it has never been a problem either.
Bad ratings may come because of FIA's childish decisions and not talking things thru with teams and drivers.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GmZM_AZWkAAiYMZ?format=jpg&name=small

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I hope some of you multi-lingual guys can translate the stage-end interviews for us. TIA.

[Humber]

Time for the Raikkonen mumble replies.

[TypeR]

Dirtfish

Elfyn Evans had to be towed back to service after Safari Rally Kenya shakedown 😬

He stopped as a precaution after getting a warning alarm on his car – Toyota is working to identify the problem ⚠️

[meh]

I think it is stupid. Just avoid cursing and things will be ok; world is crazy enough today - to protest for tolerance of bad language is beyond common sense. We already have bad ratings, allowing cursing and bad language will rise popularity ot rally? Wrong focus, folks!

Size of the fine is a different matter. I am sure it was possible to re-negotiate it or appeal.

Have you ever done anything that requires FULL focus and being at the same time FULL of adrenaline?

I'm not a rally driver, but I need to admit, that I could be far behind their political correctness at the stage end interviews.

They are living the sport, they are fighting for their dreams and if something happens during the stage, they need to keep it and stay full focus. The first moment to release all emotions or just to think what just happened is at the stage end, and then there is a microphone in front of you. Those are exactly the emotions that keep the audience. To my taste it is not over the line, it is not some swearing contest. But here comes the native language aspect as well - English is not my native language and probably I don't feel the words the same way as native speakers. Additionally, where is the line between "usual spoken language" and "being rude" depends on cultural background.

If FIA could apply those fines for statements said in the media zone or in press-conference, I could understand. At the state end, you have a choice - pure emotions or... nothing.

Personally, I prefer to watch pure emotions and personality compared to PR-department-polished-robot answering pre-scripted questions with pre-scripted answers.

[tbazsi95]

WRC drivers are protesting the FIA swearing ban by refusing to talk to the media (VIDEO)
https://www.reddit.com/r/WRC/comments/1jesbia/wrc_drivers_are_protesting_the_fia_swearing_ban/

[meh]

We can use the situation to make the level-up challenge: "the best quote from a stage-end interview this weekend" :)

[doubled1978]

I’m with the drivers, if you are going to stick a microphone under someone’s nose 15s after a stage where who knows what has happened in the name of entertainment, then don’t be surprised if a few choice words come out.
In a controlled environment like a press conference or service park when the adrenaline has calmed down, then sure, nobody should be using bad language.
Same in F1, if they are going to broadcast the pit to car radio, then that should be off limits as in their case, they are actually still competing.

[linni]

Just watched 2025 Formula 1: Drive to Survive.Oover all the episodes, a contstant fkuck goes around. Where is FIA? We are all equal, but some are more equal than the others?

[deephouse]

Just watched 2025 Formula 1: Drive to Survive.Oover all the episodes, a contstant fkuck goes around. Where is FIA? We are all equal, but some are more equal than the others?

If I remember correctly it started there, in F1, and transitioned in WRC. I don't get it why they focus so much on very fragile sport right now, whn the hings could go down so fast and destroy that little WRC have, soul and will to continue. The proper way for doing it would be if literally all of them swear so much, practicaly every fu****g word, that Benny would lose his mind. Oh and those two forum members who are so against swearing.

[saco0o]

loved the silence from the drivers (or the native language thing). Support! FUCK MBS
hope they keep like that the whole weekend. The commentators got kinda frustrated too, which is good! Gotta make everybody turn against these stupid FIA ideas, jeeez

[240RS]

Big talk in Kenya this morning is rain. Heavy , overnight rains experienced. Likely showers predicted today

[linni]

If I remember correctly it started there, in F1, and transitioned in WRC.

Yes, a year ago Verstappen got fined 40 000 eur.

[Jarek Z]

Time for the Raikkonen mumble replies.

Yes, Raikkonen or Hakkinen style, please :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Where's the excitement for Safari Rally Kenya... by the start Rally Sweden we had 16 pages of comments !?

[meh]

Eem, rally.tv user-interface is updated... and there is no "Maps" anymore? Or I just can not find it? (panic mode on)

[EstWRC]

Where's the excitement for Safari Rally Kenya... by the start Rally Sweden we had 16 pages of comments !?

Because the series is dead since 2022

[meh]

and the live timing on the web page just produces errors, "the quality is amazing" - at least I can say this without being afraid of fines.

[linni]

Eem, rally.tv user-interface is updated... and there is no "Maps" anymore? Or I just can not find it? (panic mode on)

Nor only maps, but no live timing at all.

[ReRe]

Eem, rally.tv user-interface is updated... and there is no "Maps" anymore? Or I just can not find it? (panic mode on)

Yep, live maps are gone and maps in onboard sections are blind. They again "developing" things...
I allready asked on support and this is the answer:

Hi Tomas,

Thanks for writing in! My name is Veronica from RallyTV Support.

I understand how important the onboard maps are for planning where to spectate, and I appreciate you bringing this to our attention. Allow us to provide clarification.

Currently, live onboard feeds with the map are not available, but we recognize how valuable this feature is for WRC fans like yourself. Your feedback is important, and we will share it with the relevant team.

We know we won't be able to make a quick change based on your comment, but do know that we're listening and we're getting it to the right team for future considerations. Your viewing experience is still the priority.

I hope this helps! If you have further questions or if we can help with anything else, please let us know.

Kind Regards,

Veronica
RallyTV Support Team

[meh]

So they just removed half of the functionality I have paid for :)

It is also interesting, that wrc.com is receiving data from redbull.com domain (https://p-p.redbull.com/rb-wrccom-lintegration-yv-prod/api/events/536/itineraries/1155.json)

[linni]

And live timing on wrc.com does not work. What a service!

[linni]

And live timing on wrc.com does not work. What a service!

At least ewrcresults still running.

[Corcaíoch]

Can't even watch it on full screen on my phone? Has everyone this problem or is it some mistake I'm making?

[DoN_cz]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GkPr6MDXEAAARyA?format=jpg&name=large

EDIT: this image was created few weeks ago, when the "new" rally.tv was introduced. One thing worth mentioning: if you click on "Watch live" from homepage, you get ability to rewind/pause the live stream. If you click "Live TV" from top menu, you dont. The quality is amazing.

[rallyfiend]

Can't even watch it on full screen on my phone? Has everyone this problem or is it some mistake I'm making?

I am watching full screen on my phone no problems

[Morte66]

I didn't know Elfyn spoke Welsh.

[linni]

I didn't know Elfyn spoke Welsh.

I remember when he first won the Wales Rally he did part of an interview in welsh.

[meh]

I didn't know Elfyn spoke Welsh.

Quite often at the stage-end he has been asked to give an interview in Welsh (after doing it in English)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I didn't know Elfyn spoke Welsh.

Wow, really ? ... he's about as Welsh as you can get !

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So it's a SSS win for Evans... he's usually off the pace on them. Maybe it really is his year.

[ReRe]

I wonder how the folks from Dirtfish will be now "hunting" stucked crews on stages without live maps. Have they some "advanced" Rally.tv mode (I don´t think so) or promoter done it by purpose? So many questions... :confused:

[TypeR]

Ask this Antti guy, who has friends in wrc+.. :D never was anything wrong, thry were just learning and getting better :D

[tbazsi95]

"NO WORDS
The controversy against the FIA ​​continues. The entire WRC circus shows to be very united and determined to clash with the FIA.
This is how the drivers conducted the interview at the end of SS1:

•The WRC2 drivers said they cannot comment
•Münster and Serderidis responded in French.
•Muted scene for: McErlean, Pajari
•Fourmaux responded: “Hakuna Matata”
•Katsuta responded in Japanese.
•Tänak responded in English saying: “we have already spoken about it, you know how it will be this weekend. You can go on holiday.”
•Rovanperä in English: “we will not comment this weekend. We thank the fans but we will not comment, we will speak later”.
•Evans responded in Welsh.
•Neuville responded in French explaining that he will not speak all weekend.

The new FIA code of ethics applies a 10,000 euro fine plus 20,000 suspended for every swear word a driver says during an interview.
The first case was Fourmaux in Sweden which sparked a revolt among drivers from all over the WRC circus.
The drivers founded the agency WoRDA (World Rally Drivers Alliance) to protect themselves and seek dialogue with the FIA, arguing that:
• The fine is too high because in rallies there are very few drivers who earn very high salaries(only 3 exceed a million).
• The adrenaline may not make them lucid during interviews done immediately after the special stages. Furthermore, freedom of expression is a concept that must always be kept in mind.
• All drivers know perfectly well that they are examples and would not like to swear but there must be a meeting point in case it happens or at least they should not feel afraid to say what they think.

The FIA ​​responded, through its president, late and approximate, which further irritated the representatives of WoRDA.
After Kenya there will be a dialogue between the parties but in the meantime the crews will not respond or will do so in their native language (while on TV they would be forced to do so in English).

It is a little disappointing for us fans because Kenya is an extremely particular race and hearing the drivers is essential but it is also right that they take their position against the FIA."

source: https://www.instagram.com/p/DHa3bsFMemH/

[denkimi]

• The fine is too high because in rallies there are very few drivers who earn very high salaries(only 3 exceed a million).
Hard to believe. Both Neuville, ogier, tanak and rovanpera should be well over a million. And I presume evans also.

[meh]

Seems that timing somewhat works now on the web page.

[CeskyOndra]

Neuville probably already something broken, seems like suspension issue to me

[CeskyOndra]

And Fourmaux unable to start the car before the stage...

[EstWRC]

Hyundais already falling apart.

Lol

[EstWRC]

Crazy driving from Taka

[CeskyOndra]

What was that from Katsuta

[Corcaíoch]

Very lucky / great save from Katsuta. Gutted for Fourmaux though, disastrous start for Hyundai.
A very eventful start for what should have been a reasonably straightforward stage!

[CeskyOndra]

Disaster for Hyundai with having only 2 cars in the rally..

[meh]

Disaster for Hyundai with having only 2 cars in the rally..

At the moment we can not be even that sure about Neuville's car.

[CeskyOndra]

At the moment we can not be even that sure about Neuville's car.

Looks like a classical suspension issue which is going to be solved hopefully

[COD]

Disaster for Hyundai with having only 2 cars in the rally..

How are the superrally rules here? Fourmaux not allowed to start tomorrow?

[CeskyOndra]

How are the superrally rules here? Fourmaux not allowed to start tomorrow?

He should be but 10 minutes penalty

[240RS]

I'm already missing the stage-end interviews. Didn't expect to say that so soon. . .

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Have they abandoned doing stage end interviews altogether for the rally, or just none on this stage ?

[linni]

The whole rally. I wondered Neuville gave an interiew on his problems in the service area.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

He said he doesn't know what the problem is but they have 15 mins to fix it in the morning.

[meh]

The whole rally. I wondered Neuville gave an interview on his problems in the service area.

I think they will give interviews in the media zone, the problematic part is adrenaline-driven stage-end situation.

[TypeR]

Fourmaux used wheelgun's battery to jumpstart the car.. Car started, but it wasn't enough to drive..


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GmflLY-XUAIBOKq?format=jpg&name=medium

So far 3 rallies and three big technical issues eith cars:
1) Neuville had turbo? issues
2) Tanak engine issues
3) Fourmaux couldn't start the car

[EstWRC]

Seems that with the old car they left also an old battery for Fourmaux

Embarrassing

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No wonder they're pulling out.

[denkimi]

Seems that with the old car they left also an old battery for Fourmaux

Embarrassing
It's not the battery, it's the alternator.

But still embarrassing.

[COD]

He should be but 10 minutes penalty

That would still be points scoring position at the end without further problems + sunday points and powerstage

[doubled1978]

My initial thought with Neuville was driveshaft, sounded like something was clanking around after he clipped something when he went up on two wheels.
Fourmaux very unlucky, but now he has a real test of resolve to just drive round and wait for people to drop out and hope he has no further problems.

[Doon]

So, the drivers are able to contain themselves at stage ends by hardly saying anything at all, but they can’t stop themselves swearing when the FIA tell them to. Not sure why everyone is opposed to a little decorum. It’s only a sport (not a very popular one either)

[linni]

Today they say, you cannot swear. Tomorrow they say, you must wear a beard and all the women must cover their hair.

[TypeR]

Not sure why everyone is opposed to a little decorum. It’s only a sport (not a very popular one either)
How to say you don't know about rallying without saying it..

[Doon]

Today they say, you cannot swear. Tomorrow they say, you must wear a beard and all the women must cover their hair.

Swearing is banned on live TV in the UK before the 9pm watershed. Standards have just dropped and it’s become acceptable more so online. I actually commend the FIA for trying to improve standards. Not that many people are watching.

[Doon]

Please explain.

[EstWRC]

Unbelievable you are comparing linear tv with WRC and you are on FIAs side

Has society become more bad that couple of WRC drivers say some curse words based on emotion during whole weekend?

I answer myself, it hasn’t. We can’t make sport emotionless and make sports people act like robots

[Rallyper]

Unbelievable you are comparing linear tv with WRC and you are on FIAs side

Has society become more bad that couple of WRC drivers say some curse words based on emotion during whole weekend?

I answer myself, it hasn’t. We can’t make sport emotionless and make sports people act like robots

I´m against swearing, however when the world around you like musicians, sportsmen using the f-word, you can´t punish like FIA done. It´s not proportional to the circumstances.

[Doon]

Just offering a different point of view. Not saying anything at the stage end is a bit childish, why not protest openly at the stage end (without swearing lol). Doesn’t really bother me, stage end interviews are probably the least interesting part of an event for me.

[Doon]

It seems everyone else condones bad language by “role models” on live TV where impressionable youngsters may be listening.

Then people are surprised that the president of the most powerful nation on earth uses profanity during press conferences, was actually voted in for a second term.

[WRCStan]

I´m against swearing, however when the world around you like musicians, sportsmen using the f-word, you can´t punish like FIA done. It´s not proportional to the circumstances.

Agree. I think much of the protest stems from the fact that WORDA asked for a meeting but were ignored. One question WORDA asked was where do the fines go? It's a fair question. The answer is.. you will never know. Extremely disrespectful behaviour from the FIA, but not at all surprising.

I support the FIA on clamping down on the swearing, I support WORDA for asking some respect in return, which is not happening.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Let's not go here again on the Safari thread, theres a dedicated one if you want to discuss it (again).

[AndersX]

I will say again: all this cheap theater at the end of stages is maximum disrespect and stupid. If the cause would be some dispute on some real values in the life, especially considering what a sh....hole is world today, then I would accept that. Other than that - stupid!

About rally - Hyundai is falling apart. Its like relationships - if one side has secretly decided that it will call it end, then nothing would go right.

About McErlean - i am telling again, this guy has a potential in long run. Plus, finally, second year on row M-Sport can breathe - youngsters are not demolishing their cars. Good for their budget.

[TypeR]

What about Fourmaux..? 10min penalty and starting first in front of Evans tomorrow?
Or..?

[archie106]

Friday start list is on the sportity: https://www.ewrc-results.com/sportity/90018-safari-rally-kenya-2025/

10 min penalty, but starting in championship order on the road.

[becher]

Today they say, you cannot swear. Tomorrow they say, you must wear a beard and all the women must cover their hair.

What a load of bs.

[becher]

Let's not go here again on the Safari thread, theres a dedicated one if you want to discuss it (again).
Plus 1!

I'm neither here nor there on this topic, so I really wouldn't mind to read about what is going on in the rally first and foremost.

[TypeR]

Neuville 6min late out of service and 1min penalty.
Replaced drivershaft and transmission.

If now everything works, then this +1min might not be too bad tho.

Neu 2H 4S
Eva 4H 2S
Tan 4H 2S
For 6H
Kat 6H
Rov 4H 2S
Mun 4h 2S
Paj 6H
McE 4H 2S

[EstWRC]

yep, 1 minute is nothing in Kenya

[EstWRC]

Tänak already 6 secs faster n second split than EVans and Kalle

[EstWRC]

lol Evans forgot that they cant speak

[CeskyOndra]

Surely someone will forgot too. After 26 minutes of this hell lol..

[CeskyOndra]

The pace of Hyundai's is awesome, but we all know that its not about that

[EstWRC]

Tänak and Neuville on another planet on this stage

[EstWRC]

Martin said to Tänak in the end: "the gearbox temperature is high"

[CeskyOndra]

Katsuta already in problems, a puncture. I'm surprised that he didn't change it.. It must be for some time now

[EstWRC]

interesting, Neuville and Tänak gave away half of their lead with last 4 splits, the last split to the finish has been really bad from both of them

[TypeR]

McErlean coming faster than pajari and Katsuta, nice!


Martin said to Tänak in the end: "the gearbox temperature is high"
Cmon, don't start..

[CeskyOndra]

Neuville's gonna climb up few places during this stage already

[CeskyOndra]

interesting, Neuville and Tänak gave away half of their lead with last 4 splits, the last split to the finish has been really bad from both of them

I think that fesh fesh is getting deeper

[EstWRC]

I think that fesh fesh is getting deeper

seems so cause others are also starting to loose more starting from split 9

[CeskyOndra]

Pajari stopped. This stage is gonna be hell in the second pass. Well I'm sad that Adrien has had his problem yesterday

[CeskyOndra]

So its only Munster that speaks

[EstWRC]

So its only Munster that speaks

i guess he also forgot like Evans purely on emotion

[CeskyOndra]

I got caught in the morning by the schedule of the stages on ewrc, the harmonogram is a few minutes late in there

[EstWRC]

so 4 punctures so far on this stage for Hankook

[jonkka]

So, not only do drivers refuse to speak but there also doesn't seem to be Live Information any more (at wrc.com, free side)?

[EstWRC]

spin for Kalle

[TypeR]

something unusual from Tanak.. was leading, lost the lead and at the end managed to gain back from Evans..

Tanak: ,,I'm too emotional, can't speak'' :D

[EstWRC]

Tänaks on strong form on gravel, good to see. bodes well for the season

[jonkka]

wrc.com split times table is attrocious, lots of white space and one has to scroll it horizontally to see times, which moves names off screen, even on wide screen. Grr...

[TypeR]

issues for Munster.. losing a lot

something broken on right rear

[CeskyOndra]

Tänaks on strong form on gravel, good to see. bodes well for the season

yeah hyundai's look fast but if they retire here then it will be looking pretty bad in championship again, speed was never a problem.. they need to finish..

[EstWRC]

awesome second half of the stage by Kalle, seems that all is not lost yet

[EstWRC]

Thierry jump start, +10 secs

[meh]

awesome second half of the stage by Kalle, seems that all is not lost yet

This stage, especially second part felt really like Finland as well. Kalle got the pilot mode on.

[CeskyOndra]

It is always a trouble for Thierry on Geothermal stage

[jonkka]

It is always a trouble for Thierry on Geothermal stage

Trouble? Second fastest time, after all.

[CeskyOndra]

Trouble? Second fastest time, after all.

But again something small, but bad happened

[meh]

Although quite some gaps already in the overall standing, the stage wins have all been quite close ones - differences between first and second on stages: 1.5, 1.1, 2.1, 1.5, 1.1

[EstWRC]

Great morning from Tänak, he looks really good so far with the old car without hybrid

[CeskyOndra]

I dont think that rain is going to hit today

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I dont think that rain is going to hit today

None on my weather app, but some tomorrow morning.

[Rallyper]

Those two big stones wasn´t there by themselves... (Rovanpera)

[EstWRC]

seems Tänak doesnt care if the car holds up or not, just wants to win the rally :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Wow Neuville !!

[CeskyOndra]

I had a feeling that Thierry is going to win this stage by miles.

[meh]

Neuville screamed "merde" many times on board near and after the stage end. I wonder was it just some mistake or is something wrong with the car.

... and do FIA watch carefully now? :)

[TypeR]

Where did Neuville's time come from?
Proper shortcut somewhere :D

[meh]

Neuville like the rough stuff and he is usually good at that. Now the stage was really rough and also long, it was time to accumulate time.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nightmare rally for Fourmaux.

[CeskyOndra]

Neuville like the rough stuff and he is usually good at that. Now the stage was really rough and also long, it was time to accumulate time.

Was his last chance to catch the time and be in the fight for the win, he took it.

[CeskyOndra]

That last 10 kms is absolutely terryfing for everybody now

[TypeR]

Nightmare rally for Fourmaux.
Should have changed the puncture.. own mistake

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Josh did well to finish the stage.

[meh]

That last 10 kms is absolutely terryfing for everybody now

I wonder can rally2 and smaller cars come through at all...

[CeskyOndra]

Its the first stage in the loop and the cars dont look very fresh.. Also I have seen some dark clouds in the background

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Josh did well to finish the stage.

Exhaust squashed. Can he continue?

[CeskyOndra]

Its the first stage in the loop and the cars dont look very fresh.. Also I have seen some dark clouds in the background

But it seems like the clouds are around lake Elmenteita , not around Naivasa

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I wonder can rally2 and smaller cars come through at all...

Nope.

[meh]

But it seems like the clouds are around lake Elmenteita , not around Naivasa

And here we go, Solberg is stuck in the middle of the road

[CeskyOndra]

Oliver stucked.. Couldnt do anything

[CeskyOndra]

That's the threat of scoring points in Kenya .. Not so much competition but tough to finish

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Unlucky Solberg. Others got to avoid the fesh-fesh going round him.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Info
#13
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Munster Grégoire
Louka Louis
Driving slowly on the end of stage (unknown reason)
#22
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Greensmith Gus
Andersson J.
Driving in dust from Zaldivar
#9
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Serderidis J.
Miclotte F.
Puncture
#21
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Zaldivar F.
Der Ohannesian M.
Changing wheel
#20
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Solberg Oliver
Edmondson E.
Stuck in sand - impossible to get out
#55
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McErlean Josh
Treacy Eoin
Stopped second time (exhaust)
#55
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McErlean Josh
Treacy Eoin
Stopped to check something on the car. Smoke in the car.
#16
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Fourmaux Adrien
Coria A.
Broken front right suspension
#1
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Neuville Thierry
Wydaeghe M.
Little damages on front of car
#16
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Fourmaux Adrien
Coria A.
Puncture

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Drama for Josh McErlean.

He stopped on SS7 as he could smell his exhaust and worried something was burning – turns out there's a hole in the bodywork but the car is mechanically OK !

[CeskyOndra]

Why did Neuville start behind Katsuta

[jonkka]

Why did Neuville start behind Katsuta

He was 5 minutes late out of TC8, which means 50s penalty too. Reason for lateness is not know to me.

[Tanelv]

Tänak said something like "(car) is basically rear wheel drive" to Martin at the end of the stage. Hopefully nothing serious.

[EstWRC]

Ott said to Martin something about 2wd and there is now oil behind him

was fun while it lasted it lasted

[TypeR]

,,Quality is amazing..''
2-3min loss coming easily..

[dupanton]

He was 5 minutes late out of TC8, which means 50s penalty too. Reason for lateness is not know to me.

He said "shit" about times between Flying Finish and Stop at the previous stage, so I guess he had to fix an issue.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

DF

Issues for Toyota on Safari Rally Kenya -
Elfyn Evans has an intercom problem and Takamoto Katsuta's car needs a new air filter.

[TypeR]

DF

Issues for Toyota on Safari Rally Kenya -
Elfyn Evans has an intercom problem and Takamoto Katsuta's car needs a new air filter.
Sounds like serious problems :D

[archie106]

Evans and Martin swapping helmets, I can't remember seeing a crew do that before? Lucky they have similar sized heads!

[meh]

Evans and Martin swapping helmets, I can't remember seeing a crew do that before? Lucky they have similar sized heads!

It has happened many times before in situations when the audio does not work both ways but works from a driver to co-driver, then there is an easy decision to swap.

[denkimi]

It's pretty amazing to see how after decades of development, simple stuff like intercom's or alternators still breaks.

[meh]

https://x.com/DirtFishRally/status/1903072745161650416 - Tänak and the oil leakage

edit: repearing something on the road section, is he even able to start?

edit 2: do I need to say n+1th time that previously we had "Maps" for that...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak slow getaway...

[EstWRC]

good that he has a big gap with the next drivers but for sure he will loose the lead

[Fast Eddie WRC]

10s down already.

[linni]

https://x.com/DirtFishRally/status/1903072745161650416 - Tänak and the oil leakage

edit: repearing something on the road section, is he even able to start?

edit 2: do I need to say n+1th time that previously we had "Maps" for that...

https://webapps2.wrc.com/2020/web/live/live.html

Maps.

[jonkka]

10s down already.

He's got good lead. Seems to be 10sec per split so should be enough on this but then next.

EDIT: Oh no, it got worse, lead is gone.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak on the road section
https://x.com/DirtFishRally/status/1903072745161650416

[EstWRC]

cant believe how bad the Hyundai is here always

why didnt they risk and bring the new car here, the end result is same

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Down to 3rd now. At least the car still running. One to go.

[BlueStrike]

Not to be overly sardonic in the face of an utterly familiar story… but man, great move by Hyundai to bring the old car.

Works just as well as it has every year since the Safari came back.

[Kras]

Hyundai should have left 2 years ago

[rp]

https://webapps2.wrc.com/2020/web/live/live.html

Maps.

Thanks a lot! How it is possible that there is no more this Live Map in WRC+ Rally TV? What kind of amateurs they are?

[denkimi]

Hyundai is clearly the fastest here, but they just can't build a reliable car. 2 broken gearboxes and a broken alternator, destroying the rally for all their drivers and it's only saturday.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Has anyone spotted a single animal yet during the live stage coverage?

[jonkka]

Hyundai is clearly the fastest here, but they just can't build a reliable car. 2 broken gearboxes and a broken alternator, destroying the rally for all their drivers and it's only saturday.

It's Friday.

[Tauri_J]

Thanks a lot! How it is possible that there is no more this Live Map in WRC+ Rally TV? What kind of amateurs they are?

Inflation lol

Pay more or get less product

[Morte66]

It's Friday.

If it's Saturday, I should stop pretending to be working.

[meh]

Has anyone spotted a single animal yet during the live stage coverage?

I think it was a zebra running in front of Evans for a moment.

[NoBudgetWRT]

Has anyone spotted a single animal yet during the live stage coverage?

Pajari or Rovanpera had one Antelope

[rp]

Inflation lol

Pay more or get less product

I think it´s not possible to pay more :( Fair play, because I have a one year subscription still active and took it to see the maps.

[meh]

Ok, quote of the rally, Martin asked from Ott after crossing the stage-end line: "could it be faster with a Starlet?" :D

[jonkka]

Ok, quote of the rally, Martin asked from Ott after crossing the stage-end line: "could it be faster with a Starlet?" :D

Probably, given that Starlet is a Toyota. :D

[EstWRC]

damage limitation from Tänak and he managed it well

win is still possible

(laughs ironically knowing Hyundais reliability)

[meh]

Probably, given that Starlet is a Toyota. :D

Just for background, some years ago they participated in one rally in Estonia with Starlet.

Edit: sh*t, it was 10 years ago and with Raigo Mõlder, felt like yesterday... :/

https://www.ewrc-results.com/entryinfo/20473-silveston-saaremaa-rally-2015/958376/

[jonkka]

Just for background, some years ago they participated in one rally in Estonia with Starlet.


Yes, I am aware of that. But I couldn't help quipping the joke anyway.

[denkimi]

They have 45 minutes service, so they should be able to fix it without penalty.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak explains the issue...

https://x.com/DirtFishRally/status/1903090485545050565

[CeskyOndra]

Neuville would lead by 30s if he didn't has the problems

[EstWRC]

Neuville would lead by 30s if he didn't has the problems

and Tänak would lead almost with a minute without the problems....

[EstWRC]

Tanak explains the issue...

https://x.com/DirtFishRally/status/1903090485545050565

did they strenghten the driveshaft after 2023?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

did they strenghten the driveshaft after 2023?

Or was it the propshaft ?

[denkimi]

Neuville would lead by 30s if he didn't has the problems
They would be 1-2 by a big margin if they build a stronger car.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans with a puncture right at the end of the final stage of the day. The luck of a (future) Champion ?

[dimviii]

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2025/photos/safari-rally-kenya_2025/hfr_d1-11.jpg

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2025/photos/safari-rally-kenya_2025/hfr_d1-13.jpg

https://www.ewrc-results.com/photo/90018-safari-rally-kenya-2025/

[EstWRC]

so Evans and Kalle the only ones today who didnt have problems (major ones) and it also shows with them being 1-2.

Tänak had 45 sec lead over Evans before his problems started and he is 55 secoonds down at the moment, but as the starting order is reversed tomorrow then i doubt he can make such a gap again.

The engine problem in Sweden and the driveshaft here in Kenya have both stolen a possible win from him and are very costly in the championship standings.

Lets see tomorrow

[CeskyOndra]

Tanak and Neuville can take positives from today, even though Toyota's probably weren't pushing the limits, Hyundai's were clearly faster.. We have another long day tomorrow and let's see if weather is going to change things. Weather is so random in Kenya lol, I don't know after all these years

[focus206]

As expected, Hyundai's reliability makes sure that this rally belongs to Toyota. I mean, long way to go, but I'd be very surprised if it's not a Toyota driver who wins Safari.
Time for Evans to show he can win the title. If he wins, he's the favourite for the title in my opinion. But even a 2nd place would be very good. If he bins it under pressure, we know it's still the same Elfyn.

[1988senna]

I don't think Evans can win ,Rovan waked up now , I just feel he will defeat Evans on Saturday and maybe the rest of this season

[deephouse]

Fourmaux will not start today.

[TypeR]

Good morning!

Tyres for first loop:
Neu 2H 4S
Eva 2H 4S
Tan 2H 4S
Fou 5S
Kat 1H 5S
Rov 2H 4S
Mun 4H 2S
Paj 2H 4S
McE 2H 4S

[Dontcut]

Unreal mud, we're going to see few spins.

[CeskyOndra]

Unreal mud, we're going to see few spins.

Its gonna improve, no?

[EstWRC]

you can make up tons of time in that section, will be interesting to see

[deephouse]

Good thing is that those fast drivers who will came later, are not driving right behind Serderidis, because they woul easily catch him up in one stage.

[EstWRC]

Taka made up massive time in that muddy section

[deephouse]

Haha like the new livery of Neuville's car.

[CeskyOndra]

Its better to just fly trough the water. If u going slowly like Thierry did, you lose the speed brutally

[Tauri_J]

Its better to just fly trough the water. If u going slowly like Thierry did, you lose the speed brutally

Ott took the wrong path

[TypeR]

Kalle full send and no chance for Hyundais.

[deephouse]

Seems like Kalle is flying

[CeskyOndra]

Kalle full send and no chance for Hyundais.

Thats because they just cant push trough the muddy sections. They suspension and driveshaft etc are just fragile..

[EstWRC]

Toyotas stage, Hyundai so slow here

[TypeR]

Embarassing for Hyundai and Abibubu..

[deephouse]

I don't think CRYillil even care

[EstWRC]

even on dry parts Tänak is hardly matching the toyotas

[TypeR]

I don't think CRYillil even care
I agree

[EstWRC]

Evans is just crushing everyone else this year

[deephouse]

That's how championship is won.

[trykmann]

Evans is just crushing everyone else this year

Kalles comment about Hyundais pushing yesterday too much does sound quite stupid now.

[deephouse]

So they just stop interviewing drivers? Honestly this will not help win the battle against governing body.

[Kras]

Hyundai is embarassing and they can't pull out soon enough. Toyota printing titles, pretending there's anyone to compete against

[EstWRC]

even if you take out the muddy section then Tänak lost 20 secs to Evans and 12 to Kalle

then again, he yesterday also was beating them with such a margins at times

[EstWRC]

Kalles comment about Hyundais pushing yesterday too much does sound quite stupid now.

what did he say?

[CeskyOndra]

even if you take out the muddy section then Tänak lost 20 secs to Evans and 12 to Kalle

then again, he yesterday also was beating them with such a margins at times

Can you tell me what can he do today?..

[CeskyOndra]

There is no way to do a good day with Hyundai. When you push, car breaks..

[EstWRC]

Can you tell me what can he do today?..

nothing, just cruise on 3rd position and hope that something happens to Kalle or Evans

[Kras]

There is no way to do a good day with Hyundai. When you push, car breaks..

Yep. They should award another title to Neuville for managing to win in that piece of shit

[Tauri_J]

Coming here with an old car was a mistake imo

[deephouse]

Seems like everything they do is a mistake. Although, Neuville having so much thing already gone down on his side, and still sitting high... If anyone else have this much luck, they would be already out.

[meh]

Coming here with an old car was a mistake imo

Maybe they knew what is going to happen and did not have enough spare parts for the new one :)

Speed-wide Tänak did well yesterday, today I think it was more the know-how and attitude on how to approach the muddy area. Not to much to conclude on the cars.

[deephouse]

What if they just lying of having ''new car''. Why would they invest in it, if they already decided they will leave (I believe that decision was made already some time ago, and I mean not this year but previous or even further)

[Tauri_J]

What if they just lying of having ''new car''. Why would they invest in it, if they already decided they will leave (I believe that decision was made already some time ago, and I mean not this year but previous or even further)

Remember VW? It was so sudden.

[trykmann]

what did he say?

Hyundais pushed too much and should have managed better, Safari isn't won by pushing.

[meh]

Zaldivar had 5th time O/A on SS11.

[Tauri_J]

Anyway I think theres nothing that Ott or Thierry can do. The car just doesnt have the lateral grip compared to Toyota in the wet/slippery conditions on gravel.

Always been like this as far as I can remember

[EstWRC]

Anyway I think theres nothing that Ott or Thierry can do. The car just doesnt have the lateral grip compared to Toyota in the wet/slippery conditions on gravel.

Always been like this as far as I can remember

yep, you are correct and thats the thing they wanted to improve the most with the new car and then they come here with the old one...

[deephouse]

Remember VW? It was so sudden.

VW pulling out was really all of sudden, nobody saw this coming. But Hyundai threat of leaving already for a few years now. Their team have so much controversy over the years, changing so much people and having only 3 titles on their belt in 15 years just give people think, that they are not trusted everything they say. Also by the time they are competing in WRC anyone would think that they already learn some things, but it seems the same story keeps turning over and over again.

[drive]

https://www.facebook.com/Phenomenalwrc/videos/1771243623441053 some mud action

[EstWRC]

Pajari has been the disappointment of the season so far

[TypeR]

Hyundai with old cars and looking by license plates, Rovanpera and Evans have brand new chassis/cars..
Shows the difference in commitment to the sport..

[meh]

Seems that we have stage-end interviews again...

[TypeR]

Wilson promised his guys some bonus if they keep Ford and themselves in picture and give interviews? :D

[Dontcut]

Seems that we have stage-end interviews again...
Maybe drivers are honouring TV stage?

[trykmann]

Pajari has been the disappointment of the season so far

Young guys make mistakes and these things happen, but he should have been faster than Sesks in Sweden.

[EstWRC]

Young guys make mistakes and these things happen, but he should have been faster than Sesks in Sweden.

he has no speed at all, im not talking about the mistakes

[TypeR]

And once again hyundai is on road mode pace