[WRC] EKO Acropolis Rally Greece 2024

[TypeR]

30000 eur fine suspended for 2 years..
Reason: Ogier said:
It is annoying to see that the sport never learns. We ask, we know that we are going
to have dust. There is hanging dust. Oh, they say no. What do you have in your
head? Nothing. It’s crazy.”


What did he say so bad that fia is now plssing themselves and feel so b0tthurt..?

fia mentioned that Ogier breached that rule.. which is bs. I hope he doesn't give interviews anymore..

17. I undertake that I shall:
17.2 Refrain from any public declaration or comment in any form which may harm,
weaken or put into disrepute the goodwill, fame, name and/or image of the
Championship and the FIA and/or any of the Associated Bodies;
17.3 At all times use my best endeavours to promote and encourage support for the
Championship and motor sports generally; “

[philippebugalski]

Well, he was the fastest in Monte and Croatia, while everywhere else he opened the road on gravel. He has the most PS wins of the season, I believe? Apart from the fast gravel rallies, I can't really ask for more speed from Neuville.

Exactly, I would 100% agree. He started the season beating Seb in his own backyard of Monte Carlo and he did that being fastest on friday, saturday and sunday being the only driver that picked whole 25 points in the whole season. Since the new point scoring system which is SAME for everyone clearly benefited the part timers with the ''gravel season''.

Seb won in Croatia whilst still being slower then Thierry and Evans because of dumb mistakes made by those two on Powerstage, and got 2 wins on gravel starting 6th on the road.

IMO if Thierry doesn't bin it in the remaining 3 rounds he won that title fair and square whilst showing great speed, maturity drive and calculations when needed and most important cool head - thus everything that needs to combine to become a great champion.

Lets go Thierry!

[becher]

Was Neuville a cylinder down at one point or was that just him crying about opening the road?

He was on three cylinders, could be heard easily.

[deephouse]

Imagine the situation in Chile - Kalle leading ahead of Ogier, Ogier needs points :D Drama at Toyota!

And the sad thing is when it's situation is or could be vice versa. Ogier would never do that, even if they ask him. He showed exactly his egoistic nature this year (I think at Croatian rally). Ogier won and Evans was second. It was when Ogier wasn't fighting for a title, and Evans was. Evans did mention at interview that it could get help some help from teammate. But Ogier said, why would he do that. He is here for the win, not to help others.

[saco0o]

can someone please tell the FIA that themselves are doing a really shitty job about:

>>(not cause)<< "17.2 (...) harm, weaken or put into disrepute the goodwill, fame, name and/or image of the
Championship and the FIA and/or any of the Associated Bodies;
17.3 At all times use my best endeavours to promote and encourage support for the
Championship and motor sports generally"

[WRCStan]

What did he say so bad that fia is now plssing themselves and feel so b0tthurt..?

It's the bit where he suggests the officials don't have a brain.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Latvala says it's over for both Championships...

https://rallyjournal.com/jari-matti-latvala-calls-it-quits-yes-its-over/

[macebig]

My gut feeling is that heads will roll at Toyota. Expect a shuffle of the cards in both management and drivers...

[Eli]

My gut feeling is that heads will roll at Toyota. Expect a shuffle of the cards in both management and drivers...

Does this mean we won't see the numbers 18 & 33 on their car doors anymore?

[AndyRAC]

FiA don't like people criticising them, or their officials........

It also happens in the WEC - no moaning about BoP or action will be taken.

I'm no fan of Ogier, but he's well within his rights to tell the FiA they're wrong, or something needs changing for safety. Whatever happened to free speech......???

[deephouse]

Man, what's with Ogier. He didn't have so much things going on during all 8 titles, he achieved as this weekend.

As Toyota. I think that nobody out of drivers really have any other chance. Especially when the Hyundai situation for a long term is so unclear right now. And I think they will not change Latvala immediately because one lost season. Remember, next year Rovanpera will be back full time.

[svstock]

Virves was faster on splits on SS7 than Pajari when they both drove in the dust how they get nominated same time?
unfair win robbed.

[Mirek]

Virves was faster on splits on SS7 than Pajari when they both drove in the dust how they get nominated same time?
unfair win robbed.

Notional times are never fair. Never were and never will be. Get used to it. It's literally impossible to create a system which would be fair to everyone under every conditions because the very fundament of it is replacing a time which was never achieved. It's just what if.

[Eli]

Question for you: If Thierry wins it this year, would you guys say he won because Ogier and Kalle were not participating full season (In other words "weak" championship) or not ?

I think Neuville has exploited best the new scoring system out of all the championship contenders, in previous seasons he'd be heavily penalised for making his stupid mistakes on Saturdays and Sundays, this time round as long as he gets to the finish (and he usually does). he's there to collect a good amount of points (someone needs to check how many of his points have been collected on Sunday), so even on weak rallies he's not losing too much ground to his competitors. In his mindset he was allready in front of Elfyn considering the fact he's beaten him fair and square many times in the past, Ott is someone who's dominance faded ever since 2020, and with the knowledge he wasn't there in 2023 gave Neuviile the extra push he needed so in his mind he's not a threat to him anymore (like he was in 2022); Ogier & Kalle are both on part-time seasons, so going into the season Nevuille knew this is his best shot and for the first time in his career actually beileved in himeself to do it. So while the wins don't account for as much as they did up until this year (I'm sorry but not scoring the maximum ammount of points for a win is bs), he still lead from start to finish, and now without Wales to catch him out or Australia (okay so he won that in 2017 but remember 2018?) he should be out of the woods, even if he has a DNF in Chile, CER & Japan he won last year & in 2022 respectively. TL:dr, while the wins are worth less than every year up until now, he still had to dig deep and learn how to make the best out of a bad situation (reffering to you, 7! conesecutive gravel events), maybe if Deutschland would've been between Finland & Greece it would've been a different story, but that's speculating at this point.
If he DOES somehow manages to lose it, he's not worthy of the title and honestly will deserve getting the boot (no offence to any Thierry Neuville fans out there), but I don't believe that'll happen, they have enough on their plate rn and I kinda doubt Neuville will lose it; Ogier has to pull a rabbit out of the hat and same goes to Ott who's only won once this year...With all that said though, 2025 will be an entierly different matter.

[saco0o]

My gut feeling is that heads will roll at Toyota. Expect a shuffle of the cards in both management and drivers...

impossible. they have been "winning everything" since 2019 and the season has not ended yet, anything can happen. and even if they lose, its not by a humiliating margin or so. tho i pray to the rally gods toyota fire evans and taka. they dont deserve to be on the fastest car anymore, honestly. kalle and one of the promissing youngsters guys would be the ideal

[TypeR]

Agree that notional times are always an arguable topic, but at the moment I wouldn't be too mad about the final results..
Today's result is just some very weird thing that happened :D even f1 or circuit racer can't be so close.. (Yet they say that rally isn't won on the first stage :D )

Virves's 2nd place is fully earned and should be very proud of it + all the fundraise people, who gave him the chance.
+ this wouldn't have happened if Virves hadn't pushed on PS. In every logical way it was unnecessary as the gap was so big, but if a driver feels good, then it is sometimes safer than just drive slower..

[EstWRC]

Thierry just has to finish like 4-5th every rally now and take proper points on Sunday and that’s it

It’s just impossible now to lose the title in my eyes, especially with the new points system that you can always take points on Sunday unless it ends very badly for you on Friday or Saturday but he doesn’t have to take such a risks now make the worst happen

[denkimi]

The stewards are busy atm, a lot of decisions being made;

https://app-cdn.sportity.com/14107ed3-6d69-4bc9-8bb0-e04aabac2ce1/4ee43e5f-c7e2-47dd-a892-ac838c9165be_Stewards%20Decision%2019.pdf
He shouldn't have appologised. He told the truth.

[focus206]

Thierry just has to finish like 4-5th every rally now and take proper points on Sunday and that’s it

It’s just impossible now to lose the title in my eyes, especially with the new points system that you can always take points on Sunday unless it ends very badly for you on Friday or Saturday but he doesn’t have to take such a risks now make the worst happen

Beating Neuville for the title by just being faster than him is indeed very hard, but plenty of stuff can still go wrong for Neuville. Mistakes, technical trouble, if Chile will be another Latvia with lots of cleaning, CER and Japan being on wet tricky asphalt with chance of wrong tyre choice...

[becher]

I'm sorry but people saying Evans should get the boot or Neuville if he doesn't bring the championship over the line are ridiculous.

Evans is at worst the fourth/fifth best driver at the moment and there are hardly ten competent drivers in the world who could post competitive stage times. Same goes for Neuville, he is one of the best at the moment.

If they should get the boot for lets say finishing second and fourth in the championship, than good night for the rest of the drivers.

This obsession with the world champion/s in rallying always bugged me. Every non world champion is a muppet?

Might as well just run a championship with one car, being the previous years champion.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I'm sorry but people saying Evans should get the boot or Neuville if he doesn't bring the championship over the line are ridiculous.

Evans is at worst the fourth/fifth best driver at the moment and there are hardly ten competent drivers in the world who could post competitive stage times. Same goes for Neuville, he is one of the best at the moment.

If they should get the boot for lets say finishing second and fourth in the championship, than good night for the rest of the drivers.

This obsession with the world champion/s in rallying always bugged me. Every non world champion is a muppet?

Might as well just run a championship with one car, being the previous years champion.

Did you see this ?


Some hard core Welsh rally fans I follow on X really dont think Evans has much of a future...

Quotes:

Not good enough at present. If Fourmaux stays then I think the second seat will go elsewhere.

Really think he has lost it, and being honest, don’t think he deserves it at the moment.

Really think this could be the end of the road for our boy, not only for this year but for a drive next year.

Yes, he’s having problems, but I also think he has lost the spark and speed required at the top level.

Don't worry mate, he'll be there next year.

Not sure if he deserves to be at present.

[Eli]

I'm sorry but people saying Evans should get the boot or Neuville if he doesn't bring the championship over the line are ridiculous.

Evans is at worst the fourth/fifth best driver at the moment and there are hardly ten competent drivers in the world who could post competitive stage times. Same goes for Neuville, he is one of the best at the moment.

If they should get the boot for lets say finishing second and fourth in the championship, than good night for the rest of the drivers.

This obsession with the world champion/s in rallying always bugged me. Every non world champion is a muppet?

Might as well just run a championship with one car, being the previous years champion.

A) never mentioned Evans, like many said, still faster than many out there (yes I’m looking at you Sordo) and he’s young(er) than Neuville and has been half the time that Neuville has in Toyota and unlike Neuville, his entire time there he’s had world champions left right and centre and this year you’d expect him being the only full time driver (sorry Katsuta, not at that level yet) to get the full back-up from the team for his championship title but instead they relegate to Ogier & Kalle, how do you think that plays on his mind each time, he needs confidence if he’s to perform and each time they rely on either of them 2 it breaks him and then you see all the mistakes creeping in.
B) I’m sorry but how long has Thierry been in Hyundai? He is the faster of the two and up until this year it has never materialised, it’s not as if he’s never fought for a world title it’s just his first time that you can actually say he has one hand on that trophy so yes, if he bins it he should leave (Hyundai, not the WRC, still a joy to see him fight Ogier & the likes), and besides, how can I know if there are any drivers better than him if they are all bottled up in WRC2, which again brings us to, lack of WRC seats and if Hyundai leaves and there’s no one to fill that spot, yes, you may as well close the championship with a manufacturer and a half (no offence to M-Sport, valiant effort as always).

[becher]

Did you see this ?

Yes, and I think it's stupid. Keep in mind I never rated Evans all that highly, but he is one of a few guys who can(!) win rallies on merit.

Just because he isn't super fast all the time, or makes the odd mistake, he's not a spent force yet.

Actually he wasn't far from the championship lead not long ago and had to deal with TGR leaving him standing in the rain alone.
That is likely demotivating as hell and 90% of a drivers performance is in their head.

[Danny0405]

impossible. they have been "winning everything" since 2019 and the season has not ended yet, anything can happen. and even if they lose, its not by a humiliating margin or so. tho i pray to the rally gods toyota fire evans and taka. they dont deserve to be on the fastest car anymore, honestly. kalle and one of the promissing youngsters guys would be the ideal

Think it would be a real disappoitment for Toyota to lose both titles… one title out of 2 would have been acceptable considering Kalle’s situation but not both considering the mindset of the team since Makinen’s era…
Still Latvala has still enough credit due to past results.

But I think he will have to show another plan to the brand than just saying «*Kalle is back full-time*».
Personally, I think about somethink like:
- Kalle 1st car full-time
- Evans 2nd car full-time
- Ogier and Mikkelsen (or Lappi) sharing 3rd car
- Pajari and Katsuta sharing 4th car

Fourmaux could still also be in the mix between 3rd and 4th car but less probable IMO.
As many said, I don’t see Toyota totally discarding Katsuta but putting him back part-Time in 4th car is really possible.

[WRCStan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GW-ml0EW0AA85aQ?format=jpg&name=small

Mouth firmly shut lol

[TypeR]

[IM]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GW-ml0EW0AA85aQ?format=jpg&name=small[/IMG]

Mouth firmly shut lol
30k euros worth of mouth firmly shut, because of clown-style business running :)

[1988senna]

Think it would be a real disappoitment for Toyota to lose both titles… one title out of 2 would have been acceptable considering Kalle’s situation but not both considering the mindset of the team since Makinen’s era…
Still Latvala has still enough credit due to past results.

But I think he will have to show another plan to the brand than just saying «*Kalle is back full-time*».
Personally, I think about somethink like:
- Kalle 1st car full-time
- Evans 2nd car full-time
- Ogier and Mikkelsen (or Lappi) sharing 3rd car
- Pajari and Katsuta sharing 4th car

Fourmaux could still also be in the mix between 3rd and 4th car but less probable IMO.
As many said, I don’t see Toyota totally discarding Katsuta but putting him back part-Time in 4th car is really possible.

How can Evans still have full time seat?
He can only deserve a part time job with ogier or others

[CeskyOndra]

How can Evans still have full time seat?
He can only deserve a part time job with ogier or others

Why would deserve a part time job?? He is still rally-winning material and a serious championship contender, atleast fifth best driver in the world..

[mknight]

If he was at Hyundai under Adamo Evans would get kicked.
But in a team led by normal people he for sure can keep a fulltime seat, just not be a number 1 candidate for title.

One who should not keep a point scoring-spot is Katsuta. Everytime he tries to fight with previous rally winners he crashes. They for sure can run him as a mascot in 4th car anyway.

[Danny0405]

How can Evans still have full time seat?
He can only deserve a part time job with ogier or others

Let’s be serious, even with his bad season, only 3 drivers can be better than Evans on a full-time basis: Rovanpera-Neuville-Tanak (+ Ogier that clearly doesn’t want full-time job and accepts to finish the season because of the situation).
And the Hyundai 3rd car is proving a part-time solution with other drivers (Mikkelsen, Lappi, Sordo) wouldn’t work really better.

For Toyota, the best solution is still to keep Evans in 2nd car next year… but on the other hand, they should clearly begin to find a youngster to replace him in 1 or 2 years through a 4th car.
And IMO, they should have begun in 2023 already.

[the sniper]

Whatever happened to free speech......???

Fear not, from the Stewards:


"All people are free to express their thoughts, but they must always be careful not to incur in general offences or deeds contrary to the interest of the sport."
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/ogier-explains-power-stage-roll-given-30k-suspended-fine-for-opening-stage-comments/10652503/

Comically contradictory...

Free to do so, but freedom comes with a price, in this case €30k next time. ;)

[saco0o]

i can bet he will start to talk a little bit less in post stage interviews, pretending he is "avoiding the danger of saying something" (like doing that "zipper" movement to shut his mouth over some topic or another) that could result in that fine being applied haha

[AE1WRC]

Seriously if Thierry still finds a way to bin this championship, he's not gonna win ever again. This year is the perfect chance for Thierry, and he knows this as well. So far everything is looking good for him.

About making changes to Toyota: We know that Rovanpera will be the No 1 driver back as full-time. If Ogier does not retire, he will be there also sharing 3rd car. Now the big question is what they are going to do with Elfyn and Taka.

Well let's start with Taka: I will keep this short and sweet, as much as I like the guy and his personality, I think he needs to be replaced by someone younger (Could be Sami). This guy was one of the most consistent drivers in 2022 but now almost every rally he makes mistakes and he started to become a liability for the team. I hate to use the word "liability" but unfortunately this is what it is.

For Elfyn: Guys I am gonna be honest here, he does not have "it" anymore for the championship battle anymore. Firstly, he has still been struggling with this car (He was much better in 2017 spec car) and his speed shows this. Of course, I understand having 2 world champions (literally 2 best men in the business) in the same team and the fact that they are just better than him without any hesitation really is a psychological blow. I know there are not so many drivers that are better than Evans, but he is on a downhill now. If Toyota is looking for a second driver to help Kalle and Toyota for the championship, then fine Elfyn is the perfect fit (as I know Ogier would never help Kalle even Kalle backed off in Monza 2021 to let them fight for the title, and I hope Ogier does not forget that). If they go with somebody else as a second driver Toyota would really risk their hopes for the Manufactures title in 2025 because they are not gonna win with only Kalle and Ogier.

I don't know at this moment whether Elfyn is better than Fourmaux or not to be honest. In my opinion, Kalle is still the best (yes I know about the 3 crashes but no one at the moment can catch him by pure speed and not to mention his win in Poland where he was literally playing with everyone. In addition, I don't think Kalle is even in his prime yet which is even more scary) then it is obviously Ogier. Tanak and Neuville also for sure better than Elfyn.

[1988senna]

Why would deserve a part time job?? He is still rally-winning material and a serious championship contender, atleast fifth best driver in the world..

Be seriously, Evans is not the championship contender anymore, look at the standing, part time Ogier's point is higher than him with the same car, that's the biggest problem, it prove that Evans don't have the speed and consistent any more , maybe it's the time for Toyota to run only one full time car next year

[GigiGalliNo1]

Stewards are more weak than the FIA having wine and dinner during a stage after driving into an inflatable archway

[deephouse]

Honestly, why would Toyota bin Evans? And go for someone unknown for their second driver. Katsuta is the one, who doesn't progress. But we all know that they will not fire him as long as the new generation of Japanese drivers is ready (the brand wants to have one on the grid). Evans was and is still one of the best. And even if he wants to go, where would he go? M-Sport couldn't afford him and Hyundai isn't the right place. He would be destroyed completely there with both Neuville and Tanak in it. And their unknown future many of their drivers will probably leave the championship if it comes true.

[denkimi]

Honestly, why would Toyota bin Evans? And go for someone unknown for their second driver. Katsuta is the one, who doesn't progress. But we all know that they will not fire him as long as the new generation of Japanese drivers is ready (the brand wants to have one on the grid). Evans was and is still one of the best. And even if he wants to go, where would he go? M-Sport couldn't afford him and Hyundai isn't the right place. He would be destroyed completely there with both Neuville and Tanak in it. And their unknown future many of their drivers will probably leave the championship if it comes true.
Evans will stay unless ogier makes a full comeback, or they manage to get tanak or neuville.

[AndersX]

i can bet he will start to talk a little bit less in post stage interviews, pretending he is "avoiding the danger of saying something" (like doing that "zipper" movement to shut his mouth over some topic or another) that could result in that fine being applied haha

If I were Ogier, I would make a stunt next time - whever he is interviewed, pull out a piece of paper, typ given from the PR dep, and read all the possible quotes, like:"it was hard fight, road was challenging, conpetition was strong, we will try to do better...." or smth similar. In the end add a standard quote from Evans :" Let's see.." or Neuville:"very big cleaning...". 😀

[Rallyest]

Evans will stay unless ogier makes a full comeback, or they manage to get tanak or neuville.


Tänak and Neuville both under contract so highly unlikely, but has happened before :)

[macebig]

I wouldn't exclude the possibility of a Toyota/Tanak link up. Hyundai are all but quitting after 2025, so Ott may be shopping around if he wants to continue in WRC. It's doubtful Ford and RB will cover his paycheck again, so Toyota may well be his only option.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GW-ml0EW0AA85aQ?format=jpg&name=small



He's now trying to say the criticism of Neuville was all a bit of fun !

Sébastien Ogier @SebOgier

Well, I guess I got a bit of Karma in the end ! Part of the game 🤷*♂️

It was a fun week at Acropolis Rally, I gave my all to recover as much as possible after our misfortune on Friday but it didn’t pay off this time…

[bandit12]

I ...Toyota may well be his only option.

Sorry but this won't ever happen. So lets move on from that theory.

[Eli]

I wouldn't exclude the possibility of a Toyota/Tanak link up. Hyundai are all but quitting after 2025, so Ott may be shopping around if he wants to continue in WRC. It's doubtful Ford and RB will cover his paycheck again, so Toyota may well be his only option.
If only a 4th manufacturer would come into the fray…sorry did I say 4th? Force of habit.

[EstWRC]

Sorry but this won't ever happen. So lets move on from that theory.

why not? nobody saw his move coming 2 years ago when he suddenly announced after Rally Spain that he leaves Hyunda and later that year joined M-sport.

[Danny0405]

why not? nobody saw his move coming 2 years ago when he suddenly announced after Rally Spain that he leaves Hyunda and later that year joined M-sport.

Issue doesn’t sound about Tanak willing to come back to Toyota.
Sounds more to be that, as long as Kalle is on Toyota side, they won’t hire Tanak to avoid a remake of Ogier-Loeb 2011 Citroën stint.
Only hope would be Rovanpera leaving by end 2026 or not being able to come back to regular Championship level (with less mistake than this season) in 2025

[AE1WRC]

Issue doesn’t sound about Tanak willing to come back to Toyota.
Sounds more to be that, as long as Kalle is on Toyota side, they won’t hire Tanak to avoid a remake of Ogier-Loeb 2011 Citroën stint.
Only hope would be Rovanpera leaving by end 2026 or not being able to come back to regular Championship level (with less mistake than this season) in 2025

Kalle's multi-year contract ends in 2026 right ?

[meh]

How is all this cristal-ball fantasy related to the thread topic?

[CeskyOndra]

How is all this cristal-ball fantasy related to the thread topic?

The conversation just continued due to Toyota's poor performance in Greece. So why not.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yes, and I think it's stupid. Keep in mind I never rated Evans all that highly, but he is one of a few guys who can(!) win rallies on merit.

Just because he isn't super fast all the time, or makes the odd mistake, he's not a spent force yet.

Actually he wasn't far from the championship lead not long ago and had to deal with TGR leaving him standing in the rain alone.
That is likely demotivating as hell and 90% of a drivers performance is in their head.

Evans still not comfortable in the Yaris Rally1 after all this time...

https://www.wrcfanatix.com/2024/09/evans-does-not-feel-fully-at-home-inside-his-yaris.html?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3-WrSNoHVRMqCz6g2VkanWoXN16pY6RruDmglrigeZkDuobUEqE6 zNXIo_aem_d16mlppCpDTaNngR8lRRig&m=1

[EstWRC]

Fastest tyre change ever?

https://x.com/hmsgofficial/status/1833530816246517846?s=46&t=AWria8OgC1kV5QC61vX5Xg

[CeskyOndra]

Evans still not comfortable in the Yaris Rally1 after all this time...

https://www.wrcfanatix.com/2024/09/evans-does-not-feel-fully-at-home-inside-his-yaris.html?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3-WrSNoHVRMqCz6g2VkanWoXN16pY6RruDmglrigeZkDuobUEqE6 zNXIo_aem_d16mlppCpDTaNngR8lRRig&m=1

Im sure and hope he will be on it in Chile

[rallyfiend]

Evans still not comfortable in the Yaris Rally1 after all this time...

https://www.wrcfanatix.com/2024/09/evans-does-not-feel-fully-at-home-inside-his-yaris.html?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3-WrSNoHVRMqCz6g2VkanWoXN16pY6RruDmglrigeZkDuobUEqE6 zNXIo_aem_d16mlppCpDTaNngR8lRRig&m=1

The guy has won Rally Finland in that car.

He can't blame the car. Maybe it's him.....

[TypeR]

The guy has won Rally Finland in that car.

He can't blame the car. Maybe it's him.....

Last year he won Croatia, Finland, Japan..(same amount as Kalle and Ogier).
It shows that this year it may just be psychological error(not by any bad means), just the atmosphere and thinkings isn't right in Toyota.

[meh]

I just leave it here...
https://x.com/Lukyanuky/status/1833603736817606864

[TypeR]

I just leave it here...
https://x.com/Lukyanuky/status/1833603736817606864
Looks like he got used to Greek driving style very fast :D car also looks almost same as local ones :D

but yes.. not nice tho

[flat_right]

I just leave it here...
https://x.com/Lukyanuky/status/1833603736817606864

Karma got him really well this time.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The guy has won Rally Finland in that car.

He can't blame the car. Maybe it's him.....

Of course. There's no other explanation.

[becher]

I just leave it here...
https://x.com/Lukyanuky/status/1833603736817606864

He was not happy was he.

Why did he push the Rally2 out of the way?

[focus206]

I just leave it here...
https://x.com/Lukyanuky/status/1833603736817606864

"Ogier doesn't care about winning a 9th title" :D

[CeskyOndra]

Ogier pushed Solans out of the was cuz he was in a hurry... Solans was driving behind Ogier in the stage and lost 3 minutes.. Ogier really can't accept his mistakes. I don't like this behaviour "I am 8th time champ, I can push you in the stop line, why not"....

[deephouse]

The way he was behaving this weekend, he got back pretty much harder.

[WRCStan]

Could be a simple mistake if he was looking down/taking his helmet of, pedal pressure wasn't enough and rolled forward. But it looks like disgusting behaviour from an already irritated man who developed a grudge against a crew he held up on the stage for over two minutes.

[becher]

Could be a simple mistake if he was looking down/taking his helmet of, pedal pressure wasn't enough and rolled forward. But it looks like disgusting behaviour from an already irritated man who developed a grudge against a crew he held up on the stage for over two minutes.

Yeah, I think it looks like he was on the throttle pushing him.

Did the Rally2 crews get their time back?

[denkimi]

Ogier is a great champion, but it's difficult to like him as a person.

[TypeR]

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[AE1WRC]

Ogier is a great champion, but it's difficult to like him as a person.

Spot on !!! He is my G.O.A.T but I don't like and support him. However I really respect his passion and success especially under pressure but he can be such a drama queen sometimes LMAO

[Rallyest]

Spot on !!! He is my G.O.A.T but I don't like and support him. However I really respect his passion and success especially under pressure but he can be such a drama queen sometimes LMAO

Well, to be fair, they all are drama queens if you look at them individually, Tänak, Neuville, Ogier, Rovanperä, they are all kind of dicks when its time to put the helmet on. Only one i think who is nice enough is Evans, but in my opinion because of that he doesnt have that something to be a champion. To get what you want you have to be a dick sometimes.

[Eli]

Well, to be fair, they all are drama queens if you look at them individually, Tänak, Neuville, Ogier, Rovanperä, they are all kind of dicks when its time to put the helmet on. Only one i think who is nice enough is Evans, but in my opinion because of that he doesnt have that something to be a champion. To get what you want you have to be a dick sometimes.

There’s only one goat who isn’t a drama queen….Loeb.

[deephouse]

My list of favourable drivers as first being the least drama queen and last being all over it:
1. Fourmaux
2. Sesks
3. Sordo
4. Rovanpera
5. Pajari
6. Serderidis
7. Katsuta
8. Lappi
9. Mikkelsen
10. Evans
11. Munster
12. Neuville
13. Bertelli
14. Tanak
15. Ogier

[stavrosGDB]

I have HUGE HUGE respect for Evans after 2020 rally Monza..