[WRC] 80. Rally Poland 2024

[Mirek]

Puncture for Gryazin

[jonkka]

No electric power either as cooling damaged.

You mean hybrid? Without any electricity, car wouldn't run.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

And Gus G... where did he go? No speed at all.

Very strange. Fellow Toksport driver Solberg managed to solve his day 1 issues but Greensmith made no improvement at all. A disastrous rally for him.

[Mirek]

Virves took two positions back in the PS.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

You mean hybrid? Without any electricity, car wouldn't run.

Hybrid is a misnomer and is really electric batter power and petrol engine.

[jonkka]

Hybrid is a misnomer and is really electric batter power and petrol engine.

True but please don't go into hybrid - plug-in hybrid - full electric -discussion, I've had enough that bs from my wife's desperation to understand those terms.

[Kras]

Taka shouldnt have gotten away with that bank hit. Really lucky

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hard luck for Mikkelsen. A small mistake cost him a lot today.

[EstWRC]

Virves took two positions back in the PS.

Great rally from him IMO. Really competitive stage times compared to the guys who basically doing a whole season

[Rallyper]

Some guys have been showing guts in this very fast rally. Some didn´t...

[EstWRC]

Very shitty stage end from Tänak until penultimate split to finish. Even Munster lost only 0.7 secs with that to him. Neuville managed to take 2 seconds back

[Eli]

Some guys have been showing guts in this very fast rally. Some didn´t...

You eluding to Mikkelsen & Evans?

[EstWRC]

So in the end Neuville manages to get 3 points more than Tänak and Evans 8 points more.

I thought it would be much more after what happened on Friday

[focus206]

How many punctures for Evans this year? Huge amount, yet he always manages to lose very little because of them and he's still very close to the championship lead

[trykmann]

So in the end Neuville manages to get 3 points more than Tänak and Evans 8 points more.

I thought it would be much more after what happened on Friday

Evans got 3 points more than Neuville.

[Eli]

So in the end Neuville manages to get 3 points more than Tänak and Evans 8 points more.

I thought it would be much more after what happened on Friday

Evans 3 points more than Neuville….this is Neuville’s to lose, unless Ott & Evans pull something special and Thierry has 3 consecutive dnf’s.

[mknight]

After all the big changes you end up with 3 point changes in Evans vs Neuville and Toyota vs Hyundai.

Ogier description fits. "Everyone gets points no matter what".
The only thing that can make big impact now is if someone wrecks the car completely.

[denkimi]

After all the big changes you end up with 3 point changes in Evans vs Neuville and Toyota vs Hyundai.

Ogier description fits. "Everyone gets points no matter what".
The only thing that can make big impact now is if someone wrecks the car completely.
Going off on sunday has the biggest impact, because you also lose your saturday points.

[focus206]

Evans 3 points more than Neuville….this is Neuville’s to lose, unless Ott & Evans pull something special and Thierry has 3 consecutive dnf’s.

Only 1 DNF needed. Neuville keeps opening the road and won't get many points. If it wasn't for the deer, Tanak would have closed the gap by a lot this weekend.
Actually, not even 1 DNF needed. If Tanak and/or Evans win rallies while Neuville opens the road, in a couple of rounds they're there.

[EstWRC]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240630/f7d46c9d7b20ab1ab01b5fcbeb15b478.jpg

[mknight]

Going off on sunday has the biggest impact, because you also lose your saturday points.
Yes, but if you crash Friday/Saturday and can't restart it's the same.

[EstWRC]

Only 1 DNF needed. Neuville keeps opening the road and won't get many points. If it wasn't for the deer, Tanak would have closed the gap by a lot this weekend.
Actually, not even 1 DNF needed. If Tanak and/or Evans win rallies while Neuville opens the road, in a couple of rounds they're there.

Exactly. Everything is still open and nothing isn’t decided. Like you said if Tänak wouldn’t have hit the deer they maybe would have been on equal points after this rally or even Tänak ahead.

Remember that Ott was almost 40 points behind Thierry at one point and seems Evans has regained some of his speed now with the faster rallies

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rovanpera did a great job all round. A late call and no prep yet still having the balls to commit on the fast stuff and deservedly taking the win. Plus helping Toyota big time in the Manus.

[denkimi]

Actually, not even 1 DNF needed. If Tanak and/or Evans win rallies while Neuville opens the road, in a couple of rounds they're there.
Neuville has opened every rally this season, but they still aren't even close.

The new points system makes it harder to close a gap, because you have 3 opportunities to get point.

[Backa]

The new points system makes it harder to close a gap, because you have 3 opportunities to get point.

From other hand, gap between Tanak and Neuville would be bigger after first rallies, if Tanak couldn't minimalize damage with extra sunday points.

[focus206]

Neuville has opened every rally this season, but they still aren't even close.

The new points system makes it harder to close a gap, because you have 3 opportunities to get point.

Yes, but in Latvia and Finland we can expect Tanak to be fast, maybe Evans as well, with Neuville struggling.
What I think is stupid is to have literally ALL gravel rallies of the season one after another before the final 2 asphalt rounds... in the past we've had Germany, sometimes Catalunya or Ypres to break the gravel streak...

[Eli]

Yes, but in Latvia and Finland we can expect Tanak to be fast, maybe Evans as well, with Neuville struggling.
What I think is stupid is to have literally ALL gravel rallies of the season one after another before the final 2 asphalt rounds... in the past we've had Germany, sometimes Catalunya or Ypres to break the gravel streak...

+100

[CeskyOndra]

Okey guys, let me summarize the championship and rally situation, I just have to do it when Im on a long trip home.

Some words about rally - Beautiful stages but some irresponsible fans probably cost us Rally Poland next year. It is a shame, but honestly, we need some tarmac event instead of 3 fast gravel rallies.

Kalle did a great job, Ott would've win without hitting a dear but it is like this, it is a part of the game. Otherwise he was incredible on Sunday.
Evans had to benefit from rivals struggling but he quite didn't again. He lost already a lot of points on Sunday by some small issues this year. And the speed wasn't terrible, but not the best.
Fourmaux again showed that he deserves the seat, happy for him.
Katsuta? I dont know what to say.
Sesks was just amazing, looking forward to his home rally.
And Neuville.. Could've be faster on Sunday but he nailed the Power Stage, honestly, his advantage in championship is mainly because of the last stage in the rally, he is just so fast when he tries. This can be crucial for the championship.

With Neuville's leading, Evans in the middle and Tanak in the back, it really looks like it should be really really close after Finland.

I wonder, if there will be big ruts in Latvia, it should've suit Thierry as we have seen in Poland's second passes.

Exciting season.

Funfact: This year is really dry so far, lot worse for Thierry to open the road than for example Kalle (2022)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

13 pts more than Neuville - Rovanpera shows how its possible to score and close a gap.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRVN-ygWoAAf60J?format=jpg&name=medium

[mknight]

I find it hilarious that they list 14 above 15 and 4 above 6 points.

Yes there could be some logic dictated by overall results, but then Tanak should be last or second-last.

[CeskyOndra]

I find it hilarious that they list 14 above 15 and 4 above 6 points.

Yes there could be some logic dictated by overall results, but then Tanak should be last or second-last.

Yeah I agree, this doesnt make sense now..

Btw I just realised that we all binned our pickems like in Sweden :D

[Eli]

Yeah I agree, this doesn't make sense now..

Btw I just realised that we all binned our pickems like in Sweden :D

I thought of putting Rovanperä, but at the end peer pressure got to me... :(

[MartijnS]

Highlights of Rallymedia: https://youtu.be/qC2t7158mRk?si=yUbuMill52c3f9Kz !

[saco0o]

a mate of mine said he thinkg seb and kalle are so superior ""simply"" because they learned to trust the downforce of these cars. i mean, toyota looks to be the best car, no doubt on that. 'lucky' plays a role in rallying, of course. but it was an interesting argument. or not?

[saco0o]

What I think is stupid is to have literally ALL gravel rallies of the season one after another before the final 2 asphalt rounds... in the past we've had Germany, sometimes Catalunya or Ypres to break the gravel streak...

could this have something to do with "reducing costs"? like: 'changing' the 'cars spec' from fast gravel to tarmac to fast gravel to tarmac again etc Vs keeping the same 'concept' for 3 rounds in a row. ??

[Eli]

could this have something to do with "reducing costs"? like: 'changing' the 'cars spec' from fast gravel to tarmac to fast gravel to tarmac again etc Vs keeping the same 'concept' for 3 rounds in a row. ??

For that cause they banned mixed events; I think it's simply the matter that Deutschland lost it's spot and now has to settle with Austria & the Czech Republic with the Central European Rally & can't run it at the end of August (because of Barum Rally Zlín), Ireland aren't in the running yet, Ypres are back in the BRC, so basically we have no tarmac rally to take what used to be the usual summer tarmac rally slot.

[WRCStan]

I find it hilarious that they list 14 above 15 and 4 above 6 points.

Yes there could be some logic dictated by overall results, but then Tanak should be last or second-last.

There's no logic to that table, is there?

[Peperoma]

I wish, we have a Hungarian tarmac round (in ERC region). Tracks in broken tarmac, deep forests, gravel parts and super - beatiful SS in vineyard.
But, i think the safety will be even more hazard then this weekend in Poland.
My idea is to rotate let´s say 3 different central Europe tarmac rounds (CER,Croatia,Hungary)

[PLuto]

Looks like one-off rally Poland. No return for years to come

From beginning there were no plans for more editions in WRC in next years.

[Eli]

Overall a good rally, shame it was the way that it was but once the stages stopped being cancelled and interrupted it was actually a lot of fun to watch, maybe besides the power stage. Gotta say Sesks seriously impressed, and Fourmaux has really found his groove this season, I hope he gets a win sooner rather than later.

[mknight]

There's no logic to that table, is there?

Nope. First it seemed like some was trying to sort by position and then they gave up and mixed it randomly.

[Mirek]

Gotta say Sesks seriously impressed

I'd be careful. Considering his ERC performance he seems to be fast only on fast gravel events.

[Backa]

I'd be careful. Considering his ERC performance he seems to be fast only on fast gravel events.

Driving like this in his first rally1 event is impressive, even if it's rally that suits him. He is young, he can still improve on different roads. Podium on Hungarian tarmac last year in ERC is good sign for future.

[SubaruNorway]

A challenging event with the heat, somewhat overdone security and cancelled stages, but i think i managed to put together a decent video in the end!
https://youtu.be/OIGdSq8c5h4?si=OlXh2_gm63NBE-oj

[TypeR]

Careful with what..?
For debut rally every team/youngster chooses the most suitable one to show what one is capable of..
Not only he just drove thru the stages, but he also showed some really good pace there.
With just driving he finished ahead of Katsuta and Munster.. + (whiny) Neuville couldn't catch him.

[PLuto]

Driving like this in his first rally1 event is impressive, even if it's rally that suits him. He is young, he can still improve on different roads. Podium on Hungarian tarmac last year in ERC is good sign for future.

I am surprised so many people is surprised by the speed and performance of Martins. He was always very fast on fast gravel. In his first rally with R5 car (and with experience of few starts with R4 kit), he won in general - it was Rally Liepaja, where he has beaten drivers like Llarena, Kristensson, Solans, Heikkila, Paddon, Torn, Bonato or Tempestini. All of them national champions (or very fast) with plenty of mileage with R5 cars. So for me it was not surprise, I expected Martins will be very fast. Question for me was only if he will stay all the time on the road. But he did this part well.

[Eli]

I am surprised so many people is surprised by the speed and performance of Martins. He was always very fast on fast gravel. In his first rally with R5 car (and with experience of few starts with R4 kit), he won in general - it was Rally Liepaja, where he has beaten drivers like Llarena, Kristensson, Solans, Heikkila, Paddon, Torn, Bonato or Tempestini. All of them national champions (or very fast) with plenty of mileage with R5 cars. So for me it was not surprise, I expected Martins will be very fast. Question for me was only if he will stay all the time on the road. But he did this part well.

I see what you mean but when was the last time we were this impressed by a WRC debut? Obviouslly he has a long way to go if he wants to be there full time but he did his fair share of a good start, it was a much needed breath of fresh air to the WRC and I honestly hope he continues to impress us in Latvia.

[Backa]

A challenging event with the heat, somewhat overdone security and cancelled stages, but i think i managed to put together a decent video in the end!

Still better to listen to security and not have cancelled stages, even if it means youtube video will be little less cool.

[meh]

So, back from Poland.

My feeling is that organizers tried to just get it done somehow and cheaply without putting too much effort into it. Huge queues for checking tickets - in the beginning, they scanned QR codes, and later they just visually checked you have a ticket. I guess in the beginning quite many did not reach the stages in time because of this. You may say that one did not have enough buffer and planning, but the process could be much faster and smoother.

Canceled and interrupted stages felt the same - not enough invested into it and not enough learned from the past. Probably around Saturday lunch, some serious words were said and they finally started moving theirself. Seriously annoying is to make an effort to travel to Poland, make an effort to reach to the stage to only find out, that the stage is canceled. And then again, and again.

The competition.

Tänak's meet the deer session took down the main excitement.

But there were some fresh winds blowing

Mikkelsen showed some pace finally. In the end, he is maybe overconfident in fighting with Rovanperä as an equal man, but with the new points system delivered points to the team.

Sesks - I have followed ERC enough to know the guy. I agree with those who thinks that he seems to be mostly a "fast stuff guy", but he chooses his task and delivers. He just missed 0.4sec in the first proper stage to have the stage win and was only 1.3sec behind the overall lead at some point. Yes, he had a good road position, but he did not have the hybrid unit and did not have too much experience with the car. If you say that this was not an impressive debut, then what it is? I think his good driving causes quite many extra local spectators for Rally Latvia.

Rovanperä - this is what masters are doing. Seems like some old Hollywood movie - some retired specialist gets a phone call, "You have one job, only you can do it". And he did. We have only "what if"-s to have a comparison with Tänak, but Rovaperä handled well the rest of the field. What Rovaperä could do with proper preparation is another "what if".

Evans - maybe I expected a bit more from him on the fast stuff, but seems that the lack of pace this season continues. At the same time, he earned decent points against Neuville and Tänak.

Taka - the lottery guy, you never know what is his mood or confidence level. Maybe this was his actual pace to get to the finish because when he starts driving faster, mistakes comes.

Fourmaux - overall, he is the star of the season so far for me. He is good everywhere and has shown surprisingly good times.

Neuville - in a way he did a smart rally. If he knows he is not that good at matching others, he chooses to attack on the powerstage and get some points home. I wonder if a deer is his favorite animal now.

Tänak - the first stage on Sunday morning gave some hope back. He took almost maximum being first on the road. He probably had "all-in" tactics when others had more risks to take (losing Saturday points), but if your competitors gave congrats at the end of the stage for the time, it shows the quality. No whining towards the car.

Makes Rally Latvia and Finland interesting to watch.

[EstWRC]

Tänak SS16 full onboard

https://youtu.be/kiZQDUDdooI?si=2FNMUwHHJw9h8ALz

[Jarek Z]

Oh my God, this guy has died:
https://sport.interia.pl/motorowe/news-tragiczne-wiesci-nie-zyje-kierowca-auta-ktore-zderzylo-sie-z,nId,7617615

[J4MIE]

Oh my God, this guy has died:
https://sport.interia.pl/motorowe/news-tragiczne-wiesci-nie-zyje-kierowca-auta-ktore-zderzylo-sie-z,nId,7617615

Sad news. I think that is not good news at all for Ogier, they say it’s not related, well must be a big coincidence…. :(

Think there may be repercussions from this to stop such enthusiastic driving on recce open roads, from the photos it looked like Ogier cut a left hand bend on the wrong side of the road. I assume police will have the footage etc so if there is any blame then he could be in big big trouble. I’m sure we will hear more.

[EstWRC]

That’s hard to hear

I wouldn’t be surprised if Ogier says now that he is done for this season

[mknight]

I believe recce speed limits are now controlled and enforced by GPS in the recce cars.

That said fixed speed limits are obviously not as safe everywhere.

[Mirek]

Careful with what..?
For debut rally every team/youngster chooses the most suitable one to show what one is capable of..
Not only he just drove thru the stages, but he also showed some really good pace there.
With just driving he finished ahead of Katsuta and Munster.. + (whiny) Neuville couldn't catch him.

Yes, careful. Sesks is a former winner of Rally Poland so he shall be fast there but he is also a driver who can't get to top ten on some other ERC events.

Anyway time will tell.

[Jarek Z]

Sesks is a former winner of Rally Poland so he shall be fast there but he is also a driver who can't get to top ten on some other ERC events.

That's true. He's super fast on rallies like Poland and Latvia, but he's not that fast on tarmac. Some examples:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/entryinfo/79923-barum-czech-rally-zlin-2023/3794134/
https://www.ewrc-results.com/entryinfo/79922-rally-di-roma-capitale-2023/3775474/
https://www.ewrc-results.com/entryinfo/85480-rally-islas-canarias-2024/3987468/

But it's still a pleasure to watch him, both in action and in interviews. He has such a positive personality, that he almost doesn't fit in modern WRC!

[AndersX]

That's true. He's super fast on rallies like Poland and Latvia, but he's not that fast on tarmac. Some examples:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/entryinfo/79923-barum-czech-rally-zlin-2023/3794134/
https://www.ewrc-results.com/entryinfo/79922-rally-di-roma-capitale-2023/3775474/
https://www.ewrc-results.com/entryinfo/85480-rally-islas-canarias-2024/3987468/

But it's still a pleasure to watch him, both in action and in interviews. He has such a positive personality, that he almost doesn't fit in modern WRC!
Pls point to modern times, e.g, past 30-40 years, young and promising driver who would be competitive on both surfaces immediately out of the block. As I said earlier - you can not learn natural speed - either it is there or not. His speed this weekend was great - you can not learn it by having driven those roads before. I hope his very smart team are aware of his shortages on tarmac. That is coachable.

[Mirek]

Pls point to modern times, e.g, past 30-40 years, young and promising driver who would be competitive on both surfaces immediately out of the block. As I said earlier - you can not learn natural speed - either it is there or not. His speed this weekend was great - you can not learn it by having driven those roads before. I hope his very smart team are aware of his shortages on tarmac. That is coachable.

He drove his first ERC event 8 years ago and since that time he did dozens of international rallies. He's not a rookie without a history like Chatillon.

[Tauri_J]

Oh my God, this guy has died:
https://sport.interia.pl/motorowe/news-tragiczne-wiesci-nie-zyje-kierowca-auta-ktore-zderzylo-sie-z,nId,7617615

He died after he was released from hospital. Basically had no injuries.

[Backa]

He died after he was released from hospital. Basically had no injuries.

Yes, at least not injuries requiring hospitalization. Autopsy will examine if death has relation to crash with Ogier.

According to sportowefakty, Ogier was driving ~50km/h when crash happened.

[Gregor-y]

It's too soon to make a decision. Brain injuries and trauma can be tricky.

[paddocknews]

WRC Rally Poland 2024 | Flat Out Action | 4K
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8cZ5UCzEwU

[Jarek Z]

fellas at the stages: does the rally1 without the hybrid feels/looks/sound much different on the passings?
i imagine its 'slower' but i wonder if its 'noticeable'.

I am not an expert, but I was on the stages and can say that Sesks' Puma didn't look or sound much different that the other Rally1 cars. And in his hands it didn't look slower for sure :)

[SubaruNorway]

Still better to listen to security and not have cancelled stages, even if it means youtube video will be little less cool.

Listen to security who often wanted you to stay on the outside of corners instead of the inside....? Like at the Kaito corner there was a stone bank on the inside which would have been a better place, half slow corner so not much chance a car could climb the stone bank we were on together with the marshal.
I heard several people had this experience, not sure what was going on with that.

This is only rumors and what i heard so don't take it facts.
SS3 was cancelled because of people on the two crests in the tight forest 200m before my first clip on SS6 (4:45 if you watch Neuville) but it's not a spot i would judge as that bad, if the entry to the jump was faster then for sure yes. Police was put there for 2nd run, i was 50m from the road in a really bad spot 1.5km earlier on SS3.

SS6 was stopped for Mikkelsen because of an ATV crossing the road.

I don't think i was in any really bad spots this time, bit close behind a big tree on a random fast right left in SS13 since i had to find a new plan and walked 2.5km in from the start because of tape too far from the road to see anything at all in another spot.

When the green tape is 30m inside a corner in the middle of the field you often can only see half the car in Poland, running the event later in the year when the fields are cut would help a lot, also it doesn't seem like they use edge trimmers on tractors in Poland like we do in the norther countries so bushes are so far into the road in places it makes it difficult.

If you saw the Munster jump in SS4/7 it's crazy how they put the tape on the left, straight on 3-5m from the road where people were 5 rows deep, it's a spot even i wouldn't stand, also because of the big rocks in the road there.
On the right of that jump you had to be 30-50m from the road, so low you couldn't see much, it was so randomly placed in many spots, also on the outside of a tricky tarmac corner after a straight in SS9/13.

[CeskyOndra]

Listen to security who often wanted you to stay on the outside of corners instead of the inside....? Like at the Kaito corner there was a stone bank on the inside which would have been a better place, half slow corner so not much chance a car could climb the stone bank we were on together with the marshal.
I heard several people had this experience, not sure what was going on with that.

This is only rumors and what i heard so don't take it facts.
SS3 was cancelled because of people on the two crests in the tight forest 200m before my first clip on SS6 (4:45 if you watch Neuville) but it's not a spot i would judge as that bad, if the entry to the jump was faster then for sure yes. Police was put there for 2nd run, i was 50m from the road in a really bad spot 1.5km earlier on SS3.

SS6 was stopped for Mikkelsen because of an ATV crossing the road.

I don't think i was in any really bad spots this time, bit close behind a big tree on a random fast right left in SS13 since i had to find a new plan and walked 2.5km in from the start because of tape too far from the road to see anything at all in another spot.

When the green tape is 30m inside a corner in the middle of the field you often can only see half the car in Poland, running the event later in the year when the fields are cut would help a lot, also it doesn't seem like they use edge trimmers on tractors in Poland like we do in the norther countries so bushes are so far into the road in places it makes it difficult.

If you saw the Munster jump in SS4/7 it's crazy how they put the tape on the left, straight on 3-5m from the road where people were 5 rows deep, it's a spot even i wouldn't stand, also because of the big rocks in the road there.
On the right of that jump you had to be 30-50m from the road, so low you couldn't see much, it was so randomly placed in many spots, also on the outside of a tricky tarmac corner after a straight in SS9/13.

Agree..

[becher]

In my (limited) experience of attending WRC events, it was always like this. Sometimes you were not allowed to stand in the safest possible space for no reason at all, some marshalls wouldn't let you walk along the road between passes,... And sometimes you could have stood in really stupid and dangerous places with no one batting an eye.

[Jarek Z]

Colin Clark's Rally Poland driver ratings are available at:
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/dirtfishs-rally-poland-2024-driver-ratings/

I personally never read those articles, but this time I went in to see what he thinks about Martins Sesks. Clark says it's one of the most impressive debuts he has ever seen.

[meh]

Listen to security who often wanted you to stay on the outside of corners instead of the inside....?

Marshalls are not there to think or analyze what makes sense and what does not. They are there to follow orders and do their job - keep people in allowed areas.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Colin Clark's Rally Poland driver ratings are available at:
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/dirtfishs-rally-poland-2024-driver-ratings/

I personally never read those articles, but this time I went in to see what he thinks about Martins Sesks. Clark says it's one of the most impressive debuts he has ever seen.

Anyone who hasn't driven a Rally1 before has to be highly-praised for such a debut, no matter whether they have experience on such roads or in other rally cars, or a good road position.

The difference is vast and Sesks did an amazing job.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/dirtfishs-rally-poland-2024-driver-ratings/

3/10 for Katsuta was generous. He has some serious analysing to do of this awful drive and cant have any repeat if he wants to be taken seriously as a top driver going forward.

[mknight]

Anyone who hasn't driven a Rally1 before has to be highly-praised for such a debut, no matter whether they have experience on such roads or in other rally cars, or a good road position.

The difference is vast and Sesks did an amazing job.

Not to take much from Sesks but the "Rally1" he drove is likely easier to drive than both 2017-2021 cars and the actual Rally1.

The 2017 had fancy diffs all around with tons of things you could change. So fastest setup could need lot of experience. More aero than current cars on top of that.

Rally1 without hybrid that he drove removes all the focus on hybrid (how and when to brake, when not to touch the brakes at all etc.) as well as traction issues when hybrid kicks in on loose gravel. (Sordo was complaining about that a lot the first year).

Yes he did a great job first time in a very fast car, but this way he also avoided a lot of issues that all other first time starters in the top category had the last 7 years.

[mknight]

Colin Clark's Rally Poland driver ratings are available at:
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/dirtfishs-rally-poland-2024-driver-ratings/



Evans gets extra points from him as always, even though he didn't score much or show top speed (I'd rank him as 4th fastest of the weekend) when he had a good opportunity to gain on title rivals. 7/10 at best from me.

Tanak- either he should not rank him or give 9/10. (9 due to not winning PS). He did the best (almost) out of what he could do. The ranking should be for performance not things you cannot do anything with .

Mikkelsen also 9/10 due to Saturday. As I wrote on twitter this same Colin Clark gave Suninen 8/10 for running 5-6th whole rally on his first start on gravel in Estonia last year. This was Mikkelsens first top category start on gravel in 5 years.

Katsuta and Munster -1 point each.

[Mirek]

Evans gets extra points from him as always, even though he didn't score much or show top speed (I'd rank him as 4th fastest of the weekend) when he had a good opportunity to gain on title rivals. 7/10 at best from me.

Tanak- either he should not rank him or give 9/10. (9 due to not winning PS). He did the best (almost) out of what he could do. The ranking should be for performance not things you cannot do anything with .

Mikkelsen also 9/10 due to Saturday. As I wrote on twitter this same Colin Clark gave Suninen 8/10 for running 5-6th whole rally on his first start on gravel in Estonia last year. This was Mikkelsens first top category start on gravel in 5 years.

Katsuta and Munster -1 point each.

Why anyone spends time with Colin's ranking is beyond me. It's completely worthless.

[gaudino69]

ma vidéo de ce merveilleux rallye de Pologne , appréciez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAXAaFEaCc8

[mknight]

Why anyone spends time with Colin's ranking is beyond me. It's completely worthless.

For me it might be worthless to read your rants about EVs from a country with basically the lowest number of EVs in Europe.

Yet I do it for entertainment. Same with with Colins rankings and basically this whole forum.

[SubaruNorway]

Was it true that if one more stage had been cancelled the event would be over? Hear some rumors on the stages

[cali]

For me it might be worthless to read your rants about EVs from a country with basically the lowest number of EVs in Europe.

Yet I do it for entertainment. Same with with Colins rankings and basically this whole forum.
There's way more content and thought on Mirek's "rants" than in Colin's rating and writing. And don't start with the EV's as their popularity and sales is declining and many manufacturers are dropping them from their line.

[cali]

Was it true that if one more stage had been cancelled the event would be over? Hear some rumors on the stages

We dodged a bullet then :D

[SubaruNorway]

Yeah, not sure what the points rule vs distance is now.
Just before the start of powerstage there was a marshal with heat stroke, people ran to try and stop the last 0 car and wave the police heli down, he got some help after 30min when the medics came walking

[metko74]

WRC] 80. Rally Poland 2024 as we saw it

https://www.facebook.com/Videovmv/videos/1535240694065395

[mknight]

I believe rules are same as the last few years:
75% of total stage length = full points
50-75% = half points
25-50 % = 1/3 points
<25% = no points


Didn't check if it was getting close to 75%. There is also the question whether the stage where 3-4 cars ran actually count as cancelled. I don't think so. The one stage where only one car got rednflag definitely doesn't.

So these rumors seem to be on the same level as Sesks getting hybrid for Sunday.

[mknight]

There's way more content and thought on Mirek's "rants" than in Colin's rating and writing. And don't start with the EV's as their popularity and sales is declining and many manufacturers are dropping them from their line.

There is a lot more interesting content for a rally follower in reading the opinions of people who actually work in the rallying "business" on the rally that they just were at, than in reading people posting meaningless laughs about others.

[WRCStan]

So these rumors seem to be on the same level as Sesks getting hybrid for Sunday.

Sounds like 'behave yourself kids or no sweeties'.

[J4MIE]

Stages are only fully cancelled if they don’t run. If some cars get through and nominal times issued, it isn’t cancelled.

[cali]

There is a lot more interesting content for a rally follower in reading the opinions of people who actually work in the rallying "business" on the rally that they just were at, than in reading people posting meaningless laughs about others.
In this particular case quite many forumers here are flabbergasted that someone with such "insider" knowledge can produce horse manure content week in week out.
I'll pick Mirek's and most of forumers content any day over this so called insider's.

After saying that his recent rating wasn't all that bad but I couldn't care less as well. I'm actually amazed that I even read his ratings after a year or so.

[ReRe]

My pictures from Rally Poland 2024: https://eu.zonerama.com/TomasR/Album/11722884

[Eli]

My pictures from Rally Poland 2024: https://eu.zonerama.com/TomasR/Album/11722884

Beautiful pictures! thanks for sharing them!