[ERC] Royal Rally of Scandinavia

[Jarek Z]

After I don't know how many years of absence European Rally Championship visits Sweden. BAUHAUS Royal Rally of Scandinavia will be held in Karlstadt as the 5th round of ERC. The event is a summer version of Sweden’s WRC round. Organizers promise multiple festivities and a party-style rally featuring various activities and activations offering widespread appeal :)

More about it here:
https://www.fiaerc.com/erc/news/erc/2023/erc-fans-to-be-treated-to-a-right-royal-speedfest/

– The interest in the ERC and BAUHAUS Royal Rally of Scandinavia feels great and in order not to endanger the roads, we will set the maximum limit to 80 cars. So important to register early if you want to secure your starting place - says Clerk of the course Stig-Rune Kjernsli.

Useful info:
Date: 07 - 08 July 2023
Surface: Gravel
Website: https://ercroyalrally.com/

[HKSjbg]

After I don't know how many years of absence European Rally Championship visits Sweden.

20 years - I was surprised to find out it wasn’t just South Swedish Rally in May, also Snow Rally in Feb/Mar in a run of 3 Nordic events (Arctic/Finnskog/Snow)

https://www.ewrc-results.com/season/2003/6-erc/

[skarderud]

20 years - I was surprised to find out it wasn’t just South Swedish Rally in May, also Snow Rally in Feb/Mar in a run of 3 Nordic events (Arctic/Finnskog/Snow)

https://www.ewrc-results.com/season/2003/6-erc/Yes, FinnskogRally in norway was an "ERC" round, it was different coefficients on these rounds, so the points was more worth in some rallies than others.
I'm born and raised at those stages, it is one of my strongest childhood memories when out in the forrest in the darknes, lights in the forrest and glowing brakes in the dark.



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[Fast Eddie WRC]

It sounds like another fast gravel event that will suit Martins Sesks. Another win here and just maybe he can put some pressure on Paddon.

[skarderud]

Ruling Norwegian champion, Frank Tore Larsen and his codriver Torstein Eriksen is ready for royal rally in theire VW Polo R5!
These guys are fast, exiting to se what they can manage.

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[Micke_VOC]

So…now i am back after a couple years of absence from the forum.
This tread and event are the cause :)

Been many years since I was so excited for an event on my home ground.

This event gonna be stunning, the stages are so good and challenge stages with fast sections, crests and flowing.

Have drove a couple of them in local rallies and the others I did some recce on last week. Look out for more posts from me about this event soon :)

[Jarek Z]

It sounds like another fast gravel event that will suit Martins Sesks. Another win here and just maybe he can put some pressure on Paddon.

Paddon starts to recognize Sesks as a threat, but remains calm :)
https://www.fiaerc.com/erc/news/erc/2023/paddon--sesks-was-unstoppable-in-the-erc-at-home/

[PLuto]

Paddon starts to recognize Sesks as a threat, but remains calm :)
https://www.fiaerc.com/erc/news/erc/2023/paddon--sesks-was-unstoppable-in-the-erc-at-home/

Martins needs to improve on different surfaces than fast gravel.

[peg306]

Team Nybe will enter two Fabias for local man Fredrik Åhlin and teammate Jonas Åkesson.
https://www.emotorsport.se/nyheter.php?in=2&nyhets_id=23740

[Jarek Z]

Are Tidemand and Kristensson going to compete?

[peg306]

Tidemand and Rådström should be there, Kristensson i don't know.

[Andre Oliveira]

Armstrong on Fiesta Rally2 of Tidemand.

https://www.fiaerc.com/erc/news/erc/2023/armstrong-steps-up-to-the-erc-big-league-with-mrf-tyres-dealer-team/

[RS]

Pontus been given the boot or is he not well?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Brilliant news for Jon Armstrong. A well-deserved chance and hopefully this will lead to his future career being in a Rally2 car.

"It's an amazing opportunity for me, one that I have worked towards for a while, and I'm already fully focused on delivering a strong result for the team."

[PLuto]

Are Tidemand and Kristensson going to compete?

No, they will not start.

[Jarek Z]

This season is a disaster for Tidemand!

[Sulland]

This season is a disaster for Tidemand!

Could be the car, could be the driver, could be the tyres or combos of the three factors.
We will not know until he comes driving another platform combo.

[skarderud]

Østberg/Barth is ready for Royal rally.

And, "rally legends" will do some stages, Blomqvist in Audi Quattro, Petter in C4 WRC, Henning in Celica ST185, Pernilla in Lancer EVO, and Stig-Olof Walfridsson and Oscar Svedlund in yet unknown cars. More car and drivers to be annonced.

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[peg306]

O-C Veiby confirmed on his social media he’ll be there in a Polo.

[fiscorpun]

Any infos if World Rallycross Champ Johan Kristoffersson is doing this round?
Hope to see him and Oli Solberg on that round.

[peg306]

Oliver have said before that he will start with his Polo, Johan i haven’t heard anything about.

[Tom K]

List is published: https://app-cdn.sportity.com/d49ce13d-b7e4-40f0-81b5-3a9385d886de/efe8d13d-f10c-438b-848c-f4e012897505_Entry%20list.pdf

[RS]

Gryazin there too in a Fabia RS. This should be a mega event.. Paddon, Ostberg, Solberg, Sesks, Veiby, Gryazin all in top Rally2 machinery.

[Jarek Z]

Good entry list. But that's a shame that Tidemand and Kristensson won't show their potential on their home rally. If not here then where?

[Andre Oliveira]

Great entry list. I expected PG and Flodin to be there too.

[HKSjbg]

Good entry list. But that's a shame that Tidemand and Kristensson won't show their potential on their home rally. If not here then where?

I thought Kristensson had curtailed his entire season until further notice? He may make the odd appearance in domestic rallies if an opportunity comes up but I didn’t assume there was any likelihood of doing Royal Rally Scandinavia just because it’s his home round of the ERC. He might not even do another rally for quite a while…

[Fast Eddie WRC]

That is a big shame, but I'm sure JK is concentrating on World RX and his family running the KMS team must cost a fortune with the electric car.

[fiscorpun]

Damn, I wish Lukyanuk were on this entry list =[

[Fast Eddie WRC]

FIAERC.com
Although Kristoffersson won’t be attending BAUHAUS Royal Rally of Scandinavia, Ole Christian Veiby will drive a Volkswagen Polo GTI R5 for his family team, Kristoffersson Motorsport.

https://www.fiaerc.com/erc/news/erc/2023/kristoffersson--ice-is-nice-but-shorts-and-t-shirts-will-make-for-happy-erc-fans/

[Jarek Z]

Damn, I wish Lukyanuk were on this entry list =[

He was spotted in Turkey:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvlzNQdZXDM&t=812s

[fiscorpun]

He was spotted in Turkey:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvlzNQdZXDM&t=812s

He was coaching some drivers last year. Maybe hes part of that team.. idk
He should be 'here' =[

[mousti]

He doesnt want to drive anymore since the war..

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[PLuto]

He doesnt want to drive anymore since the war..

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He wants to. But with the war it is not easy. Russian athletes are not allowed to compete in some countries...

[Andre Oliveira]

He is doing coaching. Recently had a bad crash in spain with a 208 Rally4 destroyed by fire after crash.

And a rally as codriver: https://www.ewrc-results.com/coprofile/16792-alexey-lukyanuk/

[skarderud]

He drove this in 2014, maybe he's not wery proud Russian.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230630/690f65ca446080366f227bfe2ec7e5f1.jpg

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[Andre Oliveira]

His wife is ukranian.

[mousti]

He drove this in 2014, maybe he's not wery proud Russian.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230630/690f65ca446080366f227bfe2ec7e5f1.jpg

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We do not need war.
We are for sport, friendship and peace.
I have Ukrainian family name, though live in Russia. My co-driver’s wife is half Ukrainian with relatives there.
We’ve got a question on one of the forums, if we plan any participation. We have friends and relatives on both sides of the border. We vote for peace. In 2015 my crew was already using the peaceful livery. And now we need peace first, we hope for and believe in the rapid peaceful solution.
While the people keep dying, there would be no rallies for us.

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[skarderud]

Always good to see sportspeople with a political stand. Big cred to him.

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[skarderud]

Startlist for the legendshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230702/a193eb28253dc11fce67624516b61e00.jpg

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[Sulland]

Beutiful list of Masters!

Will also be interesting to hear Olivers view on Polo R5 vs Fabia RS Rally2, and wich one he likes best on gravel!

[Jarek Z]

Veiby said that he is now focused on rallycross, but his main sponsor, BAUHAUS, wanted him to take part in the rally as they are the main sponsor of the event:
https://www.fiaerc.com/erc/news/erc/2023/no-walking-in-the-park-for-erc-returnee-veiby/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Startlist for the legendshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230702/a193eb28253dc11fce67624516b61e00.jpg

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Will there be any live coverage of them, maybe on local tv stream, as I assume All Live will only show the ERC entrants?

Edit:
I found this broadcast info and the SVT coverage is the stages that the Legends are driving :)

SVT
Friday July 7
at 11.00-12.00 SS3 Ängebäckstorp (SVT1)
Kl. 14.25-18.00 SS5-8 (SVT Play)
At 16.00-17.00 SS7 Ängebäckstorp (SVT1)

Saturday 8 July
at 10.00-11.00 SS12 Colin's (SVT1)
Kl. 13.20-18.00 SS13-16 (SVT Play)
At 16.45-17.50 SS16 Colin's Power stage (SVT1)

C More are also showing the event.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

New livery for Solberg:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0MZWMuXsAEX6GM?format=jpg&name=900x900

[eddy707]

That might be the worst livery I've seen in some time...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

That might be the worst livery I've seen in some time...

It won't be seen much anyway..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0IXQNZWIAMaEuK?format=jpg&name=medium

[Jarek Z]

That might be the worst livery I've seen in some time...

Yes, I'm not sure, is it a bad photo or is the livery really so ugly...

[Negaiss]

New livery for Solberg:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0MZWMuXsAEX6GM?format=jpg&name=900x900

Yeah, Solberg family is known for their bad liveries. From the day Peter went private his racing car liveries and also now Olivers car liveries have gone from bad to worse. The only one, which I kind of liked, was the yellow C4 wrc - the one Petter will drive this week. All the other have been more or less disaster, and Olivers cars are not good also. Part of it is Monster. But also with monster you can have good livery - black car with white wheels for example.

The good part is that bad liveries does not affect speed, which Oliver has.

[SubaruNorway]

Anyone seen any google maps for this event?

[HKSjbg]

Yeah, Antti has:

https://youtu.be/0ZzkvuCiJtM

[ouvreur]

Yes, I'm not sure, is it a bad photo or is the livery really so ugly...

It looks like the photograph was taken using a particularly low-resolution potato; it probably won't be so bad in real life.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Another driver gets an ERC entry thanks to Motorsport Ireland support...

https://www.fiaerc.com/erc/news/erc/2023/mcerlean---s-confidence-on-the-up-as-o---brien-makes-erc-return/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Heikkilä soars into ERC Sweden after successful tests:

https://www.mikkoheikkilaracing.com/post/heikkil%C3%A4-soars-into-erc-sweden-after-successful-tests

[Jarek Z]

20 years - I was surprised to find out it wasn’t just South Swedish Rally in May, also Snow Rally in Feb/Mar in a run of 3 Nordic events (Arctic/Finnskog/Snow)

https://www.ewrc-results.com/season/2003/6-erc/

It was 20 years ago indeed:
https://www.fiaerc.com/erc/news/erc/2023/erc---70--sweden---s-last-stand/

[skarderud]

Any times or pictures from free practice?


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[Lead]

Will be interesting to see how will ERC regulars match up with Solberg.

[AMSS]

times can be found here: https://rally-base.com/2023/royal-rally-of-scandinavia-2023/?ssId=7700&ssGroupId=3

[erikli2]

Anyone knows if there will be 2 min gap between all the cars tomorrow? Didn't find anything in the Rally guide.

[Negaiss]

Qualy is streamig Live on FIA ERC Facebook page

[PLuto]

Anyone knows if there will be 2 min gap between all the cars tomorrow? Didn't find anything in the Rally guide.

There should be 2 mins between priority crews. We will see if it will be only for ERC1 or also ERC3+ERC4.

[PLuto]

For first time I was watching QS live and it was quite a fail for me. I dont understand why they cannot start lets say 5 minutes before to have everything started correctly. Facebook started in time, but without sound. Youtube started 5 mins later, when two cars were in finish, also without sound. Only around Franceschi sound started, but not synchronised with picture. This was corrected only few cars later. And they switched off from QS after Joona, so they have completely missed second fastest driver on QS...

[erikli2]

There should be 2 mins between priority crews. We will see if it will be only for ERC1 or also ERC3+ERC4.

Thanks, I'm trying to calculate which stages I will have time to spectate��

[PLuto]

Who is interested in results of shakedown (drivers who didnt do FP or QS), it is here - https://rally-base.com/2023/royal-rally-of-scandinavia-2023/?ssId=7701&ssGroupId=3

[Fast Eddie WRC]

For first time I was watching QS live and it was quite a fail for me. I dont understand why they cannot start lets say 5 minutes before to have everything started correctly. Facebook started in time, but without sound. Youtube started 5 mins later, when two cars were in finish, also without sound. Only around Franceschi sound started, but not synchronised with picture. This was corrected only few cars later. And they switched off from QS after Joona, so they have completely missed second fastest driver on QS...

Yes really poor. They should have the stage end reporter doing the intro to ensure they are ready with sound and picture before the stage starts (like in the Eurosport days).

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Østberg only 14th fastest in FP & QS. Not good on the sort of event he should excel on.

[skarderud]

Nice to see Larsen at 2place, really exiting to see what he can do this weekend!

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[Lead]

Østberg only 14th fastest in FP & QS. Not good on the sort of event he should excel on.

It seems Citroen isnt doing well on slippery conditions, he seemed to be sliding a lot.

[Sulland]

It seems Citroen isnt doing well on slippery conditions, he seemed to be sliding a lot.

The development of the C3 has not been good since the french (asphalt) drivers took over.
Østberg is good at develop cars to be easy to drive quick on all surfaces, not all drivers are.

[ouvreur]

The development of the C3 has not been good since the french (asphalt) drivers took over.
Østberg is good at develop cars to be easy to drive quick on all surfaces, not all drivers are.

This again...

The same Mads Østberg who broke down in service in Estonia in 2021 and admitted he had "to be honest and say that I probably have done some mistakes on the development of the car and I can feel that now"?

It's obviously the French drivers' fault :rotflmao:

[skarderud]

This again...

The same Mads Østberg who broke down in service in Estonia in 2021 and admitted he had "to be honest and say that I probably have done some mistakes on the development of the car and I can feel that now"?

It's obviously the French drivers' fault :rotflmao:Has been lots of development since then, done by french tarmacdrivers....

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Whatever the reasons he knows he has to start winning...

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/ostberg-i-need-to-start-winning/

[Jarek Z]

Any times or pictures from free practice?

How about a visit at the service park? ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PARnzyUPP8M

And shakedown:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqMY9ltBaD0

[COD]

Starting order for tomorrow somewhere?

[Sulland]

Starting order for tomorrow somewhere?

Here you go, usually to be found under Sportity, on eWrc.
https://app-cdn.sportity.com/d49ce13d-b7e4-40f0-81b5-3a9385d886de/f54b3c7f-bc87-40ab-bcd9-bcbd0af415d1_Start%20List%20for%20Section%201%20-%20TC0.pdf

[COD]

Here you go, usually to be found under Sportity, on eWrc.
https://app-cdn.sportity.com/d49ce13d-b7e4-40f0-81b5-3a9385d886de/f54b3c7f-bc87-40ab-bcd9-bcbd0af415d1_Start%20List%20for%20Section%201%20-%20TC0.pdf

Thank you very much, did not know that

[PLuto]

Here you go, usually to be found under Sportity, on eWrc.
https://app-cdn.sportity.com/d49ce13d-b7e4-40f0-81b5-3a9385d886de/f54b3c7f-bc87-40ab-bcd9-bcbd0af415d1_Start%20List%20for%20Section%201%20-%20TC0.pdf

Or here: https://rally-base.com/2023/royal-rally-of-scandinavia-2023/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=1471

[Jarek Z]

Very nice onboard video of Solberg on the Qualifying Stage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nay1sP4Q63g

[skarderud]

Franceschi had a bit of luck there!

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[RallyFan13]

Is gryazing a driver not to put onboard live cameras in car?

[skarderud]

Campedellis steering just broke?
Had to hit something, maybe earlier.

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[meh]

Is gryazing a driver not to put onboard live cameras in car?

There can be political reasons.


Campedellis steering just broke?
Had to hit something, maybe earlier.

Based on all-live the assumption is that he hit one anti-cut. From stream it was not that clearly visible.

[Jarek Z]

Bad time for Ostberg again.

[RS]

Something definitely wrong for Ostberg.. slower than Mares and Llarena on these roads!

[skarderud]

He was litteraly scared, it sounds like.
Some really wrong setup probably.
The MRF's should'nt make that kind of difference.

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[RS]

Mega time by Paddon!

Sesks ‘slow’ here by recent standards.

[PLuto]

It looks like nobody is happy in the finish of SS 2. Including the fastest.

[skarderud]

Really happy to see Larsen/Eriksen get a 3rd place here!

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[skarderud]

It looks like nobody is happy in the finish of SS 2. Including the fastest.Quite slippery it seems.

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[Jarek Z]

Let's hope that the spectators are happy. They usually like it when it it slippery :)

[skarderud]

Let's hope that the spectators are happy. They usually like it when it it slippery :)Much more fun to watch, yes!

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice to see Jon Armstrong enjoying his Rally2 drive with decent times and no mistakes.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Top time by Solberg by 4.3s and he takes the lead.

[Jarek Z]

They said that the stages in Poland and Latvia were fast, but here the average speed on the 4th stage is over 133 km/h.

[seb_sh]

Nice rally so far.

[Jarek Z]

Not a single Swede in top 12.

[meh]

They said that the stages in Poland and Latvia were fast, but here the average speed on the 4th stage is over 133 km/h.

Average speed is like usual statistic - you can play with that, like putting extra chicanes to get average speed down but in reality - only in few places cars are driving slowly but rest of it they are flying constantly. For me it's just "let's to the things that on the paper it seems nice".

First loop done - competition seems to be nice on the paper, in practice, WRC-experience guys like Paddon and Solberg show why they have had reached there. As I understood, it's mostly new rally and new stages for everyone, so experience matters here how to get pacenotes done close to correctly and to be immediately on pace. No change to watch endless amount of onboard videos and memorize everything. Additionally - they are more used to that high speed from faster cars.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I watched SS3 on the local SVT1 channel but they just showed the ERC+ coverage.

At the end there was a feature on all the Solbergs doing the rally but no live action of the 'Legends'. They were saying something in Swedish about them and Colin's Crest so maybe they'll show them on that stage.

[skarderud]

Average speed is like usual statistic - you can play with that, like putting extra chicanes to get average speed down but in reality - only in few places cars are driving slowly but rest of it they are flying constantly. For me it's just "let's to the things that on the paper it seems nice".

First loop done - competition seems to be nice on the paper, in practice, WRC-experience guys like Paddon and Solberg show why they have had reached there. As I understood, it's mostly new rally and new stages for everyone, so experience matters here how to get pacenotes done close to correctly and to be immediately on pace. No change to watch endless amount of onboard videos and memorize everything. Additionally - they are more used to that high speed from faster cars.Then its even more impressive with the "lokal" amateur garageteam in 3rd place.

Seems drivers with less seattime struggle a bit here, like its use to be in Finland and Estland .

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[meh]

Then its even more impressive with the "lokal" amateur garageteam in 3rd place.

Seems drivers with less seattime struggle a bit here, like its use to be in Finland and Estland .

Locals may have some extra experience how to approach those road from speed and surface wise. It's the same everywhere. Compare Sesks in Latvia and now. He was way more competitive when he had the local knowledge. Compare Paddon in Latvia and now - not much difference. He is still there.

[BleAivano]

Not a single Swede in top 12.

Solberg is in the lead......

[skarderud]

On Larsen:
Well, its "lokal", he lives like 300km from the stages, in a different country.
I don't know how these stages is compared to Norwegian rallystages, its probably only Hedmarksrally around Hamar that are something close.
But he has the speed and has done good preparations before this weekend.

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[meh]

I just in case clarify here - I don't say that Larsen is doing good (only) because he may be/is local. I don't take anything away from his performance. Seems that he is surprised himself and this is really nice to see - it gives hope for others as well, that it is possible to show speed close to Paddon and Solberg. New names in stage top3 results are more than welcome!

[skarderud]

Yes, its really nice to see!

And this is what we need in WRC, some "lokals" mix in the regulars, makes things much more exiting! Rally2 is a nice class.

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[PLuto]

Yes, its really nice to see!

And this is what we need in WRC, some "lokals" mix in the regulars, makes things much more exiting! Rally2 is a nice class.

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And this is exactly what nobody in WRC (FIA, promoter, teams) doesnt want...

[skarderud]

And this is exactly what nobody in WRC (FIA, promoter, teams) doesnt want...Yeah, sadly enough they going to kill the sport with the stupidity.
F..k them.

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[Jarek Z]

Yeah, when was the last time when it was like that in WRC? In 1993 with Cunico or 1999 with Bugalski and Puras?

They killed it immediately!

[meh]

I don't agree with here - I don't think it's killed by FIA or WRC (prove me wrong), but the base-level there is just so high. You can watch it in ERC, guys with WRC experience are clearly better than ERC guys. If local guys take part of WRC competition, no one notice them - they are not covered in ALL-live etc.

But in WRC2 class there are sometimes other names, mostly of course due the lack of competitors.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

On Larsen:
Well, its "lokal", he lives like 300km from the stages, in a different country.
I don't know how these stages is compared to Norwegian rallystages, its probably only Hedmarksrally around Hamar that are something close.
But he has the speed and has done good preparations before this weekend.



3 years in the Polo R5 on many similar rallies must help a lot...

https://www.ewrc-results.com/profile/12851-frank-tore-larsen/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

McErlean rolled... did he get going again ?

E: Obviously not. A shame as he'd been going well on recent rallies.

[skarderud]

3 years in the Polo R5 on many similar rallies must help a lot...

https://www.ewrc-results.com/profile/12851-frank-tore-larsen/Its only Hedmarksrally and Aurskog-Hølandsrally that is something close to this, half of this rallies is on snow too.

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[PLuto]

I don't agree with here - I don't think it's killed by FIA or WRC (prove me wrong), but the base-level there is just so high. You can watch it in ERC, guys with WRC experience are clearly better than ERC guys. If local guys take part of WRC competition, no one notice them - they are not covered in ALL-live etc.

But in WRC2 class there are sometimes other names, mostly of course due the lack of competitors.

I think it is not about WRC experience, but about experience with fast gravel stages. You can see which drivers are on the top - drivers who were born on fast gravel stages.

[Sulland]

What has Feofanov done?

looks like the bottom half the car is gone.

[PLuto]

What has Feofanov done?

looks like the bottom half the car is gone.

Crashed, but crew is OK.

[Jarek Z]

Solberg is in the lead......

I know, but I thought he was Norwegian.

[Jarek Z]

This rally for Ostberg is even worse than the previous ones. Not a single top 10 stage time throughout the whole day. He says that he knows what is going on, but can't change it:

I have an idea of what is going on, there is nothing we can do. I have been in this situation before, I am really on the limit and enjoying it. If you are losing more than a second a km, then it will be difficult. It has been a difficult rally from the start of the rally week and it hasn't gotten easier.

[meh]

SS8 is the first stage when 1-2 is not occupied by Solberg-Paddon (in whatever order)

[BleAivano]

I know, but I thought he was Norwegian.

I can understand the confusion since Petter is Norwegian.
Oliver wss born in Torsby, Sweden. Mother is Swedish.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Amazing fastest time by Solberg considering his car is 'all over the place' !

[dimviii]

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[BleAivano]

It was a good day. I was at SS1 (somewhere in the middle) and at area 8 on SS6.
Unfortunately no legends at our stages. We had enough time to go to SS7 for the afternoon loop, but was a bit too far west.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

'Legends" in action:

https://youtu.be/ZakaYakN9iI

[RS]

Shame about Larsen, hopefully crew ok.

Sesks a bit more on it today. The majority of his time loss was yesterday morning.

[dimviii]

https://www.fiaerc.com/erc/video/player/?videoId=1626251

[BleAivano]

Paddon got an awarded time on SS2 due to being waved down.

[Sulland]

Shame about Larsen, hopefully crew ok.

Sesks a bit more on it today. The majority of his time loss was yesterday morning.

He will at least need a new rolling chassis and I am guessing more, to get back a car. Being a privateer, where all cost comes from his salary, he need to start saving.

But he showed us that he has the potential to do very well in ERC!

[skarderud]

Very sad to see Larsen's crash, both results and his economic.
But they really got theire names out there!

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[Jarek Z]

It's good to see that Volkswagen Polo Gti R5 is somehow still competitive. Solberg leads and Larsen was 4th before the crash.

[skarderud]

It's good to see that Volkswagen Polo Gti R5 is somehow still competitive. Solberg leads and Larsen was 4th before the crash.Yes, its absolut competitive, think they build new shells in Finland?

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shame about Larsen... a small mistake often leads to the biggest consequences.

And yes the Polo R5 is still a very good car on gravel and also on tarmac as seen in places like Ireland.

[Jarek Z]

a small mistake often leads to the biggest consequences.

... but sometimes you are lucky! :)
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=984072032549769&set=a.728653408091634

[Jarek Z]

I think it is the moment at the beginning of this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIuE0YkXUoE

[Fast Eddie WRC]

... but sometimes you are lucky! :)
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=984072032549769&set=a.728653408091634

Yes but that was fair enough as he was distracted by Campedelli off the road.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Close battle for 3rd this afternoon between Heikkilä-Sesks-Gryazin. I hope Sesks can take it and keep closer to Paddon for the Championship.

E. Nice start by Sesks taking time on both the rivals.

"...the road is fantastic. On the second loop it gets better and better and faster and faster - ah this rally is CRAZY!"

[Andre Oliveira]

No. Only made by VW. The last ones sent to Wevers who sold them.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Heikkilä puncture puts him out of the podium battle. :(

[skarderud]

No. Only made by VW. The last ones sent to Wevers who sold them.Thought printsport (or a different finnish team?) build new shells for existing cars?

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

So Paddon backed off and saved tyres for the PS. The win going to Solberg barring any late drama.

Still game on for the last podium place.

[BleAivano]

Östberg beats his 46.m record from the morning by jumping 47m in the second loop. :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yes, Sesks beats Gryazin and takes 3rd place. :)

[Us44]

Top performance from Sesks!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Congrats to Solberg on the win, an excellent performance.

A pity in a way that Paddon had to think of the Championship or there couldve been a fight to the end. But taking 2nd place and 5 PS points and ahead of Sesks was a great result for him.

[PLuto]

Congrats to Solberg on the win, an excellent performance.

A pity in a way that Paddon had to think of the Championship or there couldve been a fight to the end. But taking 2nd place and 5 PS points and ahead of Sesks was a great result for him.

He was trying to catch Oliver all the weekend, but he has no chance. He slowed down only in last loop as he has seen the situation.

[mousti]

It's good to see that Volkswagen Polo Gti R5 is somehow still competitive. Solberg leads and Larsen was 4th before the crash.Wevers is still developing things on the Polo. Ingram got thanks to that a boost of 11HP in Ypres.

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[Andre Oliveira]

Great rally. Very good have Sweden in ERC.

[erikli2]

Video from a spectator showing Larsens crash:

https://www.svt.se/sport/rally/norrmannen-frank-tore-larsen-kraschade-valdsamt-i-rally-vm?fbclid=IwAR08-dywcLc0dsp_4oF2kYyzjAJRF9-vQlBiAyaOJ_Gcn-q9DAqN3UUy4H4

[Walach]

Was there an anticut or just natural obstacle?

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0ihgSQWwAAMAh-?format=jpg&name=medium

[skarderud]

Was there an anticut or just natural obstacle?Some concrete waterpipe in the ditch.

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

He was trying to catch Oliver all the weekend, but he has no chance. He slowed down only in last loop as he has seen the situation.

"You'd love to win the rally, but I want to win the championship more."

[RS]

Great rally and entertaining PS!

Felt like the ‘right’ result to me, Solberg was the quickest, as expected really but Paddon is still damn quick in that i20 on fast gravel roads.

Sesks deserved his third place once he had dialled himself in after a slightly tardy Friday morning. If he can improve his pace on slower gravel roads and tarmac he’ll go far.

Mares a positive surprise for me and Ostberg & Veiby negative.

[Humber]

Paddon's motorsport garage back in NZ services a VW Polo R5. It is likely Paddon has looked under the bonnet to see what makes the Polo R5 go.

[Eli]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0ihgSQWwAAMAh-?format=jpg&name=medium

I see he finished 4th at the end, still leading the championship at least.

[TypeR]

where that(4th place) comes from? Can't see any new documents or final results..

[SubaruNorway]

Hopefully the anti cut blocks for this event is not the new standard, went to pick one up and had to put my hand under it, must be close to 20kg. One day we will have a serious accident because of them.

[AndersX]

Hopefully the anti cut blocks for this event is not the new standard, went to pick one up and had to put my hand under it, must be close to 20kg. One day we will have a serious accident because of them.

Exactly, i consider these as super stupid and dangerous solution. They change trajectory and flow of the road, the drivers must be in additional stress bcs of those items. There must be better solutions how to minimize cutting. If the road owner wants to have them, then do not make the rally or be innovative. That thing can flip the car up with big consequences.

[PLuto]

"You'd love to win the rally, but I want to win the championship more."

For sure he was saying this. But on the other hand, he wanted to win the rally also. He was pushing a lot ;)

[Eli]

where that(4th place) comes from? Can't see any new documents or final results..

I recall seeing it somewhere, if l see it again I’ll post a link to it.

[Jarek Z]

So what did we learn from this rally? Than an old under-developed Polo GTi R5 is better than latest spec C3 Rally2? ;)

[PLuto]

So what did we learn from this rally? Than an old under-developed Polo GTi R5 is better than latest spec C3 Rally2? ;)

No. We have learned that almost all R5 cars are fast and it is mainly about driver (and setup).

[Sulland]

Exactly, i consider these as super stupid and dangerous solution. They change trajectory and flow of the road, the drivers must be in additional stress bcs of those items. There must be better solutions how to minimize cutting. If the road owner wants to have them, then do not make the rally or be innovative. That thing can flip the car up with big consequences.

What other solutions are better?

[ouvreur]

What other solutions are better?

The simplest solution is to just not hit them...

[TypeR]

Seems like results stay as they were. No other news and Championship standings on fiaerc.com has been updated.

https://www.fiaerc.com/erc/results---standings/championship-standings/erc/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No. We have learned that almost all R5 cars are fast and it is mainly about driver (and setup).

So after 4 years in the C3 and much (gravel) development done by him Ostberg is no longer a good driver and cant set up a car ?

[ouvreur]

So after 4 years in the C3 and much (gravel) development done by him Ostberg is no longer a good driver and cant set up a car ?

Come on now, everyone knows it's the French tarmac drivers who are to blame!

[seb_sh]

So after 4 years in the C3 and much (gravel) development done by him Ostberg is no longer a good driver and cant set up a car ?

some quotes from Ostberg:

"I'm scared to death to be honest. I have never been this scared to drive before. I have nothing to say, I do my absolute best, but something is very, very strange."
"I think 'a bit uncomfortable' is maybe not the right thing. I don't know what to do. I'm just driving with what I have. We agree in the car that rally is normally fun, so we try and have a fun. We also agree that something is not right."
"We have to do something, so we'll have to search a bit and discuss with the team what we can do. We try to have fun and the stages are beautiful, would be nice to drive how I want, but every corner I feel I cannot drive properly so I'm losing a lot of time in places."

"We did some significant changes in service and it seems to work a lot better now, I made the mistake of putting hard tyres on the car, with the rain it didn't help so hopefully the stages don't have much rain on and we can push."

"It feels not clean and effective! I feel like I'm lacking a lot of power, I felt really low on power in there. I did some cuts, so maybe I took some bushes!"
"It's bad to be honest, I don't have any power so I guess that's it."
"I have an idea of what is going on, there is nothing we can do. I have been in this situation before, I am really on the limit and enjoying it."
"It was not so good but at least we have power again which is very nice and not shocking, but very difficult to drive yesterday, so I need to get used to power again!"
"The grip is not there and it is difficult because we are doing a lot of cleaning. However, I feel I have power in the car again. We are starting in front but it is a penalty for our speed yesterday."
"We have the power to do it but now we don't have the brakes to do it. The brake problem is back, we tried to solve it but we couldn't. It's quite slippy, so for the first pass on Colin's the winter is better, but we'll see."

"We've had an engine issue all day, we have two issues. One is fixed, but the response of the engine is not there as I need the angle on the car and need to floor the power, but it creates a lot of understeer so it's hard to get the rhythm."

bad setup initially but then an engine issue, then brake issues on the C3, add a bad road position because of the issues so I don't think we learned anything actually

we already knew fast rallies are a strength of the Polo

[seb_sh]

Otherwise good rally for Solberg, the kind of performance you expect of him if he wants to be considered for a Rally1 drive.

[BleAivano]

Hopefully the anti cut blocks for this event is not the new standard, went to pick one up and had to put my hand under it, must be close to 20kg. One day we will have a serious accident because of them.

Im watching SVT's coverge now and Jonas Kruse says that the weight of them are 35-40 Kg.

[Jarek Z]

Some raw rally action from Royal Rally of Scandinavia - only engine sounds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrvuSOElBxg

[SubaruNorway]

Im watching SVT's coverge now and Jonas Kruse says that the weight of them are 35-40 Kg.

Doubt they were that heavy as i could lift it with one hand, or was there two types maybe. But way to heavy, you could rip the whole suspension off on them

[ictus]

Doubt they were that heavy as i could lift it with one hand, or was there two types maybe. But way to heavy, you could rip the whole suspension off on them

Well if they were made out of paper they wouldn't serve the purpuse...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tom Kristensson is back rallying !

Happy to announce we will start in Swedish Rally Championship at Snapphanerallyt with Team SKÅAB’s in a Ford Fiesta R5.

[SubaruNorway]

Sorry for the late video, not much energy to edit this week.
https://youtu.be/CL19-KlhgG0

[skarderud]

Frank Tore Larsen has managed to rebuild the Polo before this weekends round in the Norwegian championship! Its a new chassis from france, it was to destroyed to save the old one.2473

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