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Rally Hokkaido
27th February 2022, 06:03
I really would like to be a fan of Elfyn Evans, but he makes it difficult! I have trouble understanding his driving level and ability, compared to his rivals. I couldn't find a dedicated thread so have started this one in the hope that members could enlighten me.

On his day, he is as fast anyone and seems to go well in difficult conditions. Two years ago he swapped teams for the first time and was soon challenging for the WRC title until the final round where he crashed.

OK, other top drivers may have similarly crashed in such circumstances (i.e. a do or die situation). Overall, his crash rate (see 2019 crash rate thread) was slightly higher than Tanak's, lower than Breen's and nowhere near Meeke's top mark.

The conundrum for me is that he seems to crash at times/places where others usually don't and not always when under big pressure or in a close fight for a podium.

So, is it his driving style, his mental approach, his misreading & overdriving for the conditions (personally I don't think it is that one) or something else? Please don't answer 'bad luck'!

Hüttünen
27th February 2022, 13:16
I really would like to be a fan of Elfyn Evans, but he makes it difficult! I have trouble understanding his driving level and ability, compared to his rivals. I couldn't find a dedicated thread so have started this one in the hope that members could enlighten me.

On his day, he is as fast anyone and seems to go well in difficult conditions. Two years ago he swapped teams for the first time and was soon challenging for the WRC title until the final round where he crashed.

OK, other top drivers may have similarly crashed in such circumstances (i.e. a do or die situation). Overall, his crash rate (see 2019 crash rate thread) was slightly higher than Tanak's, lower than Breen's and nowhere near Meeke's top mark.

The conundrum for me is that he seems to crash at times/places where others usually don't and not always when under big pressure or in a close fight for a podium.

So, is it his driving style, his mental approach, his misreading & overdriving for the conditions (personally I don't think it is that one) or something else? Please don't answer 'bad luck'!

Similar bad luck than Tänak have had the last two years 😁😁😁

But to be honest, he can drive really fast and well in difficult conditions. But on the other hand makes mistakes in easy and unusual spots. I think it is due to mental pressure.

By the way, we want Meeke back!!!!

Sulland
22nd October 2022, 05:37
What has happened to Evans this year?
He has driven very well since he came to Toyota, and grabbed 2 x second place overall, and could have won a title.

This year he has no wins, fewer stage wins, and has been further from the top.
Is it car changes, tyre changes, personal life changes or other stuff that is to blame?

AnttiL
22nd October 2022, 05:48
I can see two things:

- Not being so good with the Rally1 car as the previous WRC car (same as Sordo). Evans has even stated this in an interview.
- The psychological effect of a younger guy beating him straight by driving (take Portugal for example)

Also this season started with two crashes from good positions (or actually three, since there were two in Sweden). Were they just bad luck or did he overdrive while trying to take his role as the championship contender? But after those incidents he never really found the extra gear he had so often in 2020 and 2021.

mknight
22nd October 2022, 05:48
My theory is that it is in his head.

Coming so close behind Ogier he surely must have expected to have big title chances.
Tried to attack too hard early which cost a lot of points.
Rovanpera rose up and suddenly Evans is permanently on back foot.

Car might be a factor though. As Evans wasn't very good with pre 2017 cars without active diffs so the diff changes for Rally1 might be particularly hurting him.

EstWRC
22nd October 2022, 05:55
IMO it’s the car (like Antti said he has accepted it himself) and his driving style

PLuto
22nd October 2022, 20:34
I can see two things:

- Not being so good with the Rally1 car as the previous WRC car (same as Sordo). Evans has even stated this in an interview.
- The psychological effect of a younger guy beating him straight by driving (take Portugal for example)

Also this season started with two crashes from good positions (or actually three, since there were two in Sweden). Were they just bad luck or did he overdrive while trying to take his role as the championship contender? But after those incidents he never really found the extra gear he had so often in 2020 and 2021.

I think it is new car which doesnt suits so to lot of drivers (and really suits to Rovanpera) and also his head - mainly as he was counted as driver number one in Toyota on the beginning of season. He was counted as one of the biggest favourites to win the title...

Fast Eddie WRC
22nd October 2022, 22:43
My theory is that it is in his head.

Coming so close behind Ogier he surely must have expected to have big title chances.
Tried to attack too hard early which cost a lot of points.
Rovanpera rose up and suddenly Evans is permanently on back foot.

Car might be a factor though. As Evans wasn't very good with pre 2017 cars without active diffs so the diff changes for Rally1 might be particularly hurting him.

Spot on.

He needed to lay down a marker early in the season and show he is new Toyota No.1, but he failed and Kalle went from strength to strength. He's like a broken man now that Kalle is champion and doesnt look to have the heart to fight back thinking his chance has gone.

EstWRC
3rd November 2022, 14:29
IMO it’s the car (like Antti said he has accepted it himself) and his driving style

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/what-evans-must-do-to-fight-again-in-2023/