[WRC] Rally Finland 2022

[janneppi]

According to Finnish media sites. Teemu Suninen was disqualified.
His team issue aftermarket front bumber was too ligth.



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[cali]

This Suninen case again makes Hyundai look like a bunch of amateurs. Good result wasted.

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[EstWRC]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220808/91d6ec53e51f175de456154c2d006229.jpg

[Dontcut]

Isn't that RedGrey who services Rally2 cars? Not the Hyundai factory team.

[HarriK]

Would expect it to be without stickers then. I assume it's the bottom red part:

https://www.ewrc-results.com/image/719315/

Maybe they use stickers also during testing, or have all bumpers without them and fit them first on the car. Anyway these kind of issues are best avoided by making it impossible to mount it, for example by not having it with them to the rally. Or by storing them completely different place and clearly marked. Commercial aviation and space industry have extensive and hard-earned experience of how things need to be make impossible to do the wrong way.I compared photos and Suninen's car front bumper has a lot of larger brake cooling holes than other. I really significant thing.

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[logic]

This Suninen case again makes Hyundai look like a bunch of amateurs. Good result wasted.

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Not Hyundai, Red Grey.

[EstWRC]

what a rally and what a result from Ott and Martin! Incredible, surely one of his best wins if not the best.

I had a good feeling when we arrived to Finland on wednesday but still didnt believe it was 100% doable.

from watching on the stages, i have to say you can see why the likes of Fourmaux, Greensmith etc are having moments and stuff. The TOP4 were like on rails and are keeping the car under control and in the right line, while the second tier group is all over the place and car snapping through middle of the corner.

I have been to the rally now since 2015 and public wise i have never seen so few estonian spectators, i guess Rally Estonia is a big factor here and also current situation in the world with war and economics. And not just estonians, didnt see as much other nations also as previous years.

From organizational side, i really recommend the Rally Finland organizers to visit Rally Estonia and take some things over from there. Apart from service park, the Rally Pass was checked only on one stage! I mean whats the point for me to buy it then? In Estonia they control it everywhere. And in Ässämäki, they caused a huge queue cause they decided to control the passes on top of hill on very narrow road where the cars couldnt pass each other, so the people who wanted to turn around and go back didnt have any chance to do it. Total facepalm moment to me. And i hope they ditch this shakedown, the official places were boring as hell. Vesala was much better.

[Eli]

what a rally and what a result from Ott and Martin! Incredible, surely one of his best wins if not the best.

I had a good feeling when we arrived to Finland on wednesday but still didnt believe it was 100% doable.

from watching on the stages, i have to say you can see why the likes of Fourmaux, Greensmith etc are having moments and stuff. The TOP4 were like on rails and are keeping the car under control and in the right line, while the second tier group is all over the place and car snapping through middle of the corner.

I have been to the rally now since 2015 and public wise i have never seen so few estonian spectators, i guess Rally Estonia is a big factor here and also current situation in the world with war and economics. And not just estonians, didnt see as much other nations also as previous years.

From organizational side, i really recommend the Rally Finland organizers to visit Rally Estonia and take some things over from there. Apart from service park, the Rally Pass was checked only on one stage! I mean whats the point for me to buy it then? In Estonia they control it everywhere. And in Ässämäki, they caused a huge queue cause they decided to control the passes on top of hill on very narrow road where the cars couldnt pass each other, so the people who wanted to turn around and go back didnt have any chance to do it. Total facepalm moment to me. And i hope they ditch this shakedown, the official places were boring as hell. Vesala was much better.

Sounds like you had a great time, probably hard now to go back after such ‘high’; been there once before back in 2014 when they had the official spectator buses to take you to the stages which was very nice as you didn’t have to pay for it but it did restrict (obviously) the amount of stages you could catch in a day, overall though was a really good experience, would definitely like to go there again.
I was wondering, how did Ott & Thierry’s driving style compare to one another? & did their cars looked ‘heavy’ when taking the corners in comparison to the Toyotas and the Pumas? Also did Breen's lines looked like he was all over the place? I’m curious.

[Rallyper]

On SS2 Solberg's crash he is already shifting up onto fourth gear on the corner where he crashes. Everyone else keeps on third gear and are even lifting the throttle at the same point. It's not just "bad luck".

You are at the spot on point now.
My son said he did same mistake once. Just decided for himself that first corner on first stage could be taken flat out... He got away with it (almost got off) but learned a lot.
The thing was he was mentally blocked in his mind-set.
I guess Oliver was in that mode, strengthend after Harju stage the night before. I also question his learning from computer rallygames; he used to have camerasight from behind of car, not the dashboard mode. Why? How can you get the feeling for driving fast in the early learning, in that way?

[WRCStan]

from watching on the stages, i have to say you can see why the likes of Fourmaux, Greensmith etc are having moments and stuff. The TOP4 were like on rails and are keeping the car under control and in the right line, while the second tier group is all over the place and car snapping through middle of the corner.

Agreed, and not just chucking it into corners because I see automatically from some drivers if the car comes out pointing exactly the right way, some like to rapid steer left and right under acceleration to grab traction (is there a name for this?) I can understand it in ruts or wet/mud but it looks like a psychological driving style thing more than anything else, like digging your elbows in for leverage, surely it doesn't make you faster out of every corner!?

[cali]

Not Hyundai, Red Grey.That explains it, thanks!

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[AnttiL]

I have been to the rally now since 2015 and public wise i have never seen so few estonian spectators, i guess Rally Estonia is a big factor here and also current situation in the world with war and economics. And not just estonians, didnt see as much other nations also as previous years.

And in contrast, because of Kalle there was probably more Finnish people on the stages than in a long time, especially younger ones, many people who have never been to a rally before.

[samzon100]

Pictures Secto Rally Finland 04-07.2022
Shakedown
SS3, SS4, SS7, SS12, SS16, SS20 and SS22

https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Secto+Ralli+Finland+08.22/

[polomayu]

In our spots ott was much more sideways than the others

[meh]

It was an interesting battle, was not able to follow full-time this time and even forgot to make prediction. But, as a proper fan, I followed it even when visiting Vulcano :)

https://twitter.com/elarlang/status/1555923814776717312

Really glad that there was some sunlight for Hyundai. I can recall just one stage end interview with Tänak, when he had hands shaking. Never seen this before, and I think it describes well the effort he put into this win. Just awesome!

[Sergiow]

I compared photos and Suninen's car front bumper has a lot of larger brake cooling holes than other. I really significant thing.


The Italian version of Motorsport.com goes deeper into the matter:

"The problem has arisen since the tests. The Red Gray team (which puts the official Hyundai i20 Rally2 on the road) had replaced the original bumper with one that was not homologated already during the tests and was no longer changed in time for the race. The other Hyundai cars the team raced with Hyundai homologated bumpers, so it was a mere mistake.

This, however, represented only a mitigating factor that was not sufficient to avoid disqualification. The team and crew are in any case responsible for checking the car to make it compliant with the dictates of the sporting regulations.

We also remind you that Suninen will have the right to appeal against the decision of the race marshals. If this is the case, he will have to follow the dictates of article 15 of the FIA International Sporting Code."

https://it.motorsport.com/wrc/news/rally-finlandia-suninen-squalificato-lindholm-vince-nel-wrc2/10350472/?filters%5Bevent%5D%5B0%5D%5Btitle%5D=Rally+Finlan dia&filters%5Bevent%5D%5B0%5D%5Bvalue%5D=272743

[denkimi]

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2022/photos/secto-rally-finland_2022/hfr_dsc_2077.jpg#
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2022/photos/rallye-automobile-de-monte-carlo_2022/vpl_z71_6379.jpg
Just like fourmaux in monte, lappi's car makes me wonder how bad these cars are when it comes to stopping foreign object. There seems to be very little in the way to protect the drivers against penetrations from outside.

[Sergiow]

Just like fourmaux in monte, lappi's car makes me wonder how bad these cars are when it comes to stopping foreign object. There seems to be very little in the way to protect the drivers against penetrations from outside.

Lappi: “It was pretty much okay [with the goggles on], there wasn’t too many flies luckily. When I saw there were ruts I backed off to make sure no rocks bounced into my face.”

https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/amp/0a9LMX40/s1000/wrc-rally-finland-2022-esapekk-2.webp

So definitely unsafe driving without the windscreen ;)

[Rallyper]

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2022/photos/secto-rally-finland_2022/hfr_dsc_2077.jpg#
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2022/photos/rallye-automobile-de-monte-carlo_2022/vpl_z71_6379.jpg
Just like fourmaux in monte, lappi's car makes me wonder how bad these cars are when it comes to stopping foreign object. There seems to be very little in the way to protect the drivers against penetrations from outside.

Of course.
But - how would you build up a safety cage stopping all penetration from foreign objects? Rallying with military tanks? Eeehhh. No.

[pantealex]

Roof of Lappi "opened" in last stage. It was still attached when they started Power stage.

[cali]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/colin-clarks-2022-rally-finland-driver-ratings/

In short my ratings:

Rovanperä 9/10
Did well for cleaning fridays road. Put huge pressure on Tänak and destroyed his teammates. Without opening the road on Friday he would be celebrating the win. He is crazy good and the driving is so effortless and smooth.

Evans 7/10
Did a small mistake which costed much. A bit of off the pace and couldn't beat his teammates.

Lappi 8/10
I enjoyed his performance. Benefitted his good starting position but couldn't fight Tänak and Kalle when they had more equal road order. Unfortunate roll but had fantastic Power Stage.

Tänak 10/10
Forget the Hyundai-i20-is-a-bad-car-and-i-don't-have chance-here fairytale. The car is a handful, yes. But it's fast enough. I just loved the driving from Tänak. This all or nothing warrior attitude. It was a breath of fresh air in a championship where the pecking order was set and everybody waving white flag to Rovanperä. I was genuinely scared and amazed by his performance. It made rallying exciting again and not because he is fellow estonian but I think quite many fans had this adrenaline rush on the roadside and behind the TV when we saw him give absolutely everything.

Neuville 5/10
We know fast gravel is not for him but I thought Thierry had more dog in him. I can't wait for Ypres to see him give Tänak-like performance on tarmac. I rate him much higher than his performance was in Finland.

Solberg 0/10
We know why.

Breen - undecided
He had the speed, but then crashed. Dunno, by speed 6/10 but since he didn't finish I would give him 4/10. He needs confidence, more seat time, more testing.

Greensmith 6/10
No silly mistakes, consistent times. He didn't fall off and was head and shoulders above other M-Sport crews. I actually was impressed this time around.

Loubet 5/10

Fourmaux 4/10

Huttunen 5/10
Unlucky with the Puma's issues. Was straight away on the same pace as the french duo of M-Sport. Unfortunately we couldn't see more push from him at the later stages because of the issues. I would like to see him again in a Puma.

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[HarriK]

Roof of Lappi "opened" in last stage. It was still attached when they started Power stage.GPS antennas etc left there. I was even afraid that car stopped when I watched maps and live at same time...2299

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[denkimi]

Of course.
But - how would you build up a safety cage stopping all penetration from foreign objects? Rallying with military tanks? Eeehhh. No.
Just a steel sheet like all cars from the past? Have you ever before seen a car without a roof after a small roll?

[mknight]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/colin-clarks-2022-rally-finland-driver-ratings/

In short my ratings:

Rovanperä 9/10
Did well for cleaning fridays road. Put huge pressure on Tänak and destroyed his teammates. Without opening the road on Friday he would be celebrating the win. He is crazy good and the driving is so effortless and smooth.

Evans 7/10
Did a small mistake which costed much. A bit of off the pace and couldn't beat his teammates.

Lappi 8/10
I enjoyed his performance. Benefitted his good starting position but couldn't fight Tänak and Kalle when they had more equal road order. Unfortunate roll but had fantastic Power Stage.

Tänak 10/10
Forget the Hyundai-i20-is-a-bad-car-and-i-don't-have chance-here fairytale. The car is a handful, yes. But it's fast enough. I just loved the driving from Tänak. This all or nothing warrior attitude. It was a breath of fresh air in a championship where the pecking order was set and everybody waving white flag to Rovanperä. I was genuinely scared and amazed by his performance. It made rallying exciting again and not because he is fellow estonian but I think quite many fans had this adrenaline rush on the roadside and behind the TV when we saw him give absolutely everything.

Neuville 5/10
We know fast gravel is not for him but I thought Thierry had more dog in him. I can't wait for Ypres to see him give Tänak-like performance on tarmac. I rate him much higher than his performance was in Finland.

Solberg 0/10
We know why.

Breen - undecided
He had the speed, but then crashed. Dunno, by speed 6/10 but since he didn't finish I would give him 4/10. He needs confidence, more seat time, more testing.

Greensmith 6/10
No silly mistakes, consistent times. He didn't fall off and was head and shoulders above other M-Sport crews. I actually was impressed this time around.

Loubet 5/10

Fourmaux 4/10

Huttunen 5/10
Unlucky with the Puma's issues. Was straight away on the same pace as the french duo of M-Sport. Unfortunately we couldn't see more push from him at the later stages because of the issues. I would like to see him again in a Puma.

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10 to Tanak with road position advantage and low PS result, while he also won the rally numerous times before is hard to justify from me. Specially since Rovanpera got 9/10 for 30 points while road cleaning in Portugal. So either both these are a 9 or a 10.

Agree Breen deserves lot better than 2/10.

Fourmaux should get 2-3, he broke the steering himself on second stage.

Greensmith 5/10, barely beat Loubet who was there first time in top car. Consistent times beating only Fords with issues.

Lappi 5-6 max. Said before the rally podium was minimum, even without issues he wouldn't be better and then basically threw it away keeping it by pure luck. Before the season everyone knew he has good speed often. Reliability and stability were question marks. So far this year the question marks only got bigger.

Evans 7 instead of 6 yes.

[sdlp98]

10 to Tanak with road position advantage and low PS result, while he also won the rally numerous times before is hard to justify from me. Specially since Rovanpera got 9/10 for 30 points while road cleaning in Portugal. So either both these are a 9 or a 10.

Agree Breen deserves lot better than 2/10.

Fourmaux should get 2-3, he broke the steering himself on second stage.

Greensmith 5/10, barely beat Loubet who was there first time in top car. Consistent times beating only Fords with issues.

Lappi 5-6 max. Said before the rally podium was minimum, even without issues he wouldn't be better and then basically threw it away keeping it by pure luck. Before the season everyone knew he has good speed often. Reliability and stability were question marks. So far this year the question marks only got bigger.

Evans 7 instead of 6 yes.

How can you give Evans more points than Lappi? Lappi was faster than Evans all weekend despite having less experience with the car.

[cali]

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[cali]

10 to Tanak with road position advantage and low PS result, while he also won the rally numerous times before is hard to justify from me. Specially since Rovanpera got 9/10 for 30 points while road cleaning in Portugal. So either both these are a 9 or a 10.

Agree Breen deserves lot better than 2/10.

Fourmaux should get 2-3, he broke the steering himself on second stage.

Greensmith 5/10, barely beat Loubet who was there first time in top car. Consistent times beating only Fords with issues.

Lappi 5-6 max. Said before the rally podium was minimum, even without issues he wouldn't be better and then basically threw it away keeping it by pure luck. Before the season everyone knew he has good speed often. Reliability and stability were question marks. So far this year the question marks only got bigger.

Evans 7 instead of 6 yes.For me Rovanperä has been 10/10 on previous rallies, no doubt.
Actually agree about Fourmaux but other than that I stand by my ratings. That's how I saw it.

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[mknight]

How can you give Evans more points than Lappi? Lappi was faster than Evans all weekend despite having less experience with the car.

Rolling on a Sunday outside PS when not even in a fight is pretty much inexcusable. (Lappi did both roll and then crash in Portugal 2019 on Sunday as well).
That he didn't retire or even lose position is pure luck. Imagine if he had to retire, what rating would he get 3/10? Now because of luck everything should be forgiven?

Also Lappi and Evans have both done all the fast snow/gravel rallies in that car. Evans only has Safari extra if you count that as fast.

[pantealex]

Lappi 5-6 max. Said before the rally podium was minimum, even without issues he wouldn't be better and then basically threw it away keeping it by pure luck. Before the season everyone knew he has good speed often. Reliability and stability were question marks. So far this year the question marks only got bigger.

Evans 7 instead of 6 yes.

Evans was last years clear winner!

Lappi did several stages on Saturday with broken windshield and rolled 3 times but still finished ahead of Evans

No way Evans was better ...

[Rallyper]

Just a steel sheet like all cars from the past? Have you ever before seen a car without a roof after a small roll?

If you take Lappi as an example, a correct roof doesn´t stop penetration either...

[Sergiow]

Lappi and the windshield issue: the WRC regulations provide for it, all regular. Rallyssimo.it had a deeper look:

"the sporting regulations of the WRC foresee exactly such a situation and frame it clearly. Indeed, what happened to Henning Solberg in 2006 in Sweden prompted the FIA to regulate a potentially dangerous situation"

"Driving in the special stage without the windshield is allowed only if both drivers wear protective masks in accordance with the EN1938 standard or a full-face helmet with a closed visor. For information, in all cases described above, the police can still stop the crew and prevent them from continuing on public roads regulated by normal laws. It should be emphasized that, according to the last sentence, the police could have stopped them in transfer and decided otherwise, and perhaps it is in this case that Lappi could perhaps have counted on the fact that he was Finnish."

https://www.rallyssimo.it/2022/08/09/lappi-e-la-questione-parabrezza-il-regolamento-wrc-lo-prevede-tutto-regolare/

[mknight]

I don't know the detailed regulatios in each country, but there are quite a few road legal cars that have no windscreen in the first place
(Caterham/other Lotus 7, KTM X-bow ++).

It's something completely different than driving with 3 wheels only.

[pantealex]

I don't know the detailed regulatios in each country, but there are quite a few road legal cars that have no windscreen in the first place
(Caterham/other Lotus 7, KTM X-bow ++).

It's something completely different than driving with 3 wheels only.

There are Renault Sport Spider`s +others in Finland, so wind screen isn't mandatory here.

[TypeR]

ofcourse it is mandatory, if it is meant to be there from the ,,factory''.

as written somewhere before, then Finnish police could have stopped him on the road, but didn't. Was it common sense or Finnish guy driving for podium, can't say.. Would they(police) have let Tanak, Evans or Neuville continue if leading in front of Finnish guy with dangerous car, don't know.

[EstWRC]

https://fb.watch/ePJ5j9xFrz/

Just check the hands of Ott. This is the first stage of Sunday where he needed the extra time

[EstWRC]

Amazing J-records vid https://youtu.be/1OShSBf0Hu8

[bomber21]

https://fb.watch/ePJ5j9xFrz/

Just check the hands of Ott. This is the first stage of Sunday where he needed the extra time
Reminds me of Colin McRae onboards.

[Lead]

SS14 Kaur's onboard at 8:25 mark :eek:

[flat_right]

Amazing J-records vid https://youtu.be/1OShSBf0Hu8

Great clips but why on earth are they speeding up these videos? So unnatural.

[EstWRC]

I was wondering, how did Ott & Thierry’s driving style compare to one another? & did their cars looked ‘heavy’ when taking the corners in comparison to the Toyotas and the Pumas? Also did Breen's lines looked like he was all over the place? I’m curious.

I think you have seen a lot how Ott drove. Like has been said here, Much more aggressive and sideways and carrying more speed. The Toyota looks much more stable

Breen was somewhere in the middle of the first group and second tiers. He was hesitating a lot on some places. For example at Ässämäki, very fast downhill with a little bump before very fast left. He braked the most there out of the whole bunch

[AnttiL]

Great clips but why on earth are they speeding up these videos? So unnatural.

They are not.

[seb_sh]

Thanks to all who make and post videos, I often like these better than the official broadcast.

[mknight]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/finland-helped-greensmith-rediscover-his-spark/

Greensmith really happy about his improvement in Finland.

Let's write this again...
Contracted manu team driver in his 3rd full season is really happy about 7th place.

[TypeR]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/finland-helped-greensmith-rediscover-his-spark/

Greensmith really happy about his improvement in Finland.

Let's write this again...
Contracted manu team driver in his 3rd full season is really happy about 7th place.

Let's write this again.. he isn't taking anybody's seat away. Greensmith is paying and driving
rally1 car, some guys not..

[AndyRAC]

He's the WRC equivalent of Sportscar racing's Paul Dalla Lana, but with more hair......

[wyler]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/finland-helped-greensmith-rediscover-his-spark/

Greensmith really happy about his improvement in Finland.

Let's write this again...
Contracted manu team driver in his 3rd full season is really happy about 7th place.

incorrect. not eligible for manu points for the full season.

[Scaha]

They are not.

I think he was joking 😀

[flat_right]

I think he was joking ��

I was not joking. I downloaded the video and slowed it down about 5%. Then it looks more natural and relatable to other "flat out" videos from Finland and also from Estonia. It is very hard to prove because I don't have any reference videos from the same place but I'm 100% sure it is sped up. Everything from how people move, how camera "shakes", how dust moves behind the car, how gravel falls down, how leaves and grass shake is not normal. I have watched so many WRC videos and been in so many rallies myself that it is not possible that it is natural.

For example, check the 1:01 mark from the video. Are you really saying that this is normal? People are moving like in a Charlie Chaplin video...

https://streamable.com/6wpo1o

[steve.mandzij]

not this conversation again...

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[dimviii]

I was not joking. I downloaded the video and slowed it down about 5%. Then it looks more natural and relatable to other "flat out" videos from Finland and also from Estonia. It is very hard to prove because I don't have any reference videos from the same place but I'm 100% sure it is sped up. Everything from how people move, how camera "shakes", how dust moves behind the car, how gravel falls down, how leaves and grass shake is not normal. I have watched so many WRC videos and been in so many rallies myself that it is not possible that it is natural.

For example, check the 1:01 mark from the video. Are you really saying that this is normal? People are moving like in a Charlie Chaplin video...

https://streamable.com/6wpo1o

ι have mention this plenty of times here,they are going to answer you that yes at 1.01 its normal.
Dont bother.

[the sniper]

ι have mention this plenty of times here,they are going to answer you that yes at 1.01 its normal.
Dont bother.


Indeed. Likely it isn't intentional, but there's clearly (to many of us) something that goes on, principally with 60fps YT videos, that results in getting an unnatural impression of speed, particularly noticeable in the movement of people. But there's little point in going over this again, particularly if some will deny we're even noticing anything awry.

[Franky]

The simple thing to do would be to just ask if they are actually filming in 60fps, which isn't a standard frame rate in Europe, or 50fps that gets changed later. If the original filming frame rate is different than the one on Youtube, then all depends how it's been done. Tho it's better to stick to one frame rate standard and not to switch between them.

[Sergiow]

He's the WRC equivalent of Sportscar racing's Paul Dalla Lana, but with more hair......

... but Greensmith did win the SS7 at the Monte this year beating Ogier with +1.4s and Loeb with 2.9s. Not a many that could say that

[mknight]

... but Greensmith did win the SS7 at the Monte this year beating Ogier with +1.4s and Loeb with 2.9s. Not a many that could say that

Yes he did, it took him some 3 years in WRC car and Loeb to have a hybrid failure.

But yes Monte was actually good and seemed to have shown some improvement, since then it's kinda back to same old. Meaning he does 1-2 good stages per rally and else stays among last WRCs.

Anyway my biggest problem with Greensmith+MSport is how their PR talks about him like he is on the way to be next world champion. This started with the "extended featured" last summer, until then the PR was pretty normal and realistic.What changed? MSport didn't get top driver so they decide to promote what they have hard?

Now that kind of PR starts to get slighty ridiculous when they are very happy about 7th place.

[SubaruNorway]

I was not joking. I downloaded the video and slowed it down about 5%. Then it looks more natural and relatable to other "flat out" videos from Finland and also from Estonia. It is very hard to prove because I don't have any reference videos from the same place but I'm 100% sure it is sped up. Everything from how people move, how camera "shakes", how dust moves behind the car, how gravel falls down, how leaves and grass shake is not normal. I have watched so many WRC videos and been in so many rallies myself that it is not possible that it is natural.

For example, check the 1:01 mark from the video. Are you really saying that this is normal? People are moving like in a Charlie Chaplin video...

https://streamable.com/6wpo1o

What did you think of my video this time? (Motorsportfilmer)
https://youtu.be/AlZPIglb5p0
I had some people complain it looked laggy and asked for more FPS, mine is 25fps 4K.
I haven't tried 50fps with my new Canon XA50 to see how it looks, only the old Panasonic HC-x1000 at RX Nordic 2019 and it looked a little unnatural with more visible shaking, i wonder what WRC TV use?

[EstWRC]

Great clips but why on earth are they speeding up these videos? So unnatural.

I really doubt they are speeding up them by purpose.

J-records was also here after Croatia video I think and explained the things.

For me some parts look speed up, not the whole video

[Franky]

What did you think of my video this time? (Motorsportfilmer)
https://youtu.be/AlZPIglb5p0
I had some people complain it looked laggy and asked for more FPS, mine is 25fps 4K.
I haven't tried 50fps with my new Canon XA50 to see how it looks, only the old Panasonic HC-x1000 at RX Nordic 2019 and it looked a little unnatural with more visible shaking, i wonder what WRC TV use?

But would you run the same shutter speed when filming in 50fps as with 25fps?

[flat_right]

What did you think of my video this time? (Motorsportfilmer)
https://youtu.be/AlZPIglb5p0
I had some people complain it looked laggy and asked for more FPS, mine is 25fps 4K.
I haven't tried 50fps with my new Canon XA50 to see how it looks, only the old Panasonic HC-x1000 at RX Nordic 2019 and it looked a little unnatural with more visible shaking, i wonder what WRC TV use?

For me your video looks totally normal. Very nice places and super clips!

If you only follow and look the cars, in your video and also J-records, it is very hard to say anything but if you start to check surroundings, then for me J-record feels sped up. This will be the final post from me about this in this topic. Really appreciate all of you who make them. 100% better than what we see from All live.

[seb_sh]

Could also be that the YouTube encoder does some weird stuff. I sometimes see it struggling with rain or things moving fast. Some moments in the J-records do feel a bit strange but it could be some artificial smoothing going on, like when you turn on those "smooth motion" features on tvs and get the soap opera effect.

[Rallyper]

All this talk about speeding up videos...

I tell you one thing for sure:

Go and watch yourself and find out that it´s true speed. The stages are sooo fast and cars driven absolutely on the edge...

[Sergiow]

If you look at the Twitter feed of Teemu Suninen Racing no updates after August 7 so it seems he is still considering himself the WRC2 winner of Rally Finland this year. Rightly so, he was finally delivering the goods and then being robbed of victory by a mistake of his team so his team should be punished, not the driver ...

https://twitter.com/teemusuninenrac

[MTA]

Better late than never.
Fantastic rally as usual, however we visited Lankamaa and 25 meters behind us Kalle started to slow down so we got to see him at full speed but no other cars.

On the last day we visited Oittila and sat in the curve that Lappi rolled in.
However, we were driven away by the officials 40 minutes before the SS start with the reason that there were no spectators allowed at all on the loop that went south of the big road.
We didn't see any signs or other information either when we went there or back. :(

Our photos can be found here: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?vanity=rallyfoto.se&set=a.407917404658243

[SubaruNorway]

Better late than never.
Fantastic rally as usual, however we visited Lankamaa and 25 meters behind us Kalle started to slow down so we got to see him at full speed but no other cars.

On the last day we visited Oittila and sat in the curve that Lappi rolled in.
However, we were driven away by the officials 40 minutes before the SS start with the reason that there were no spectators allowed at all on the loop that went south of the big road.
We didn't see any signs or other information either when we went there or back. :(

Our photos can be found here: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?vanity=rallyfoto.se&set=a.407917404658243

Yeah i don't know if that was just a rough marshal or what, you could easily be there without stepping in the fields, People have always been allowed there before and if it really was like that it should say in the program. I and a few others were hiding in the bushes 100m after where Lappi rolled. The rest of the stage is not that interesting when they removed the narrow road.

[MTA]

Yeah i don't know if that was just a rough marshal or what, you could easily be there without stepping in the fields, People have always been allowed there before and if it really was like that it should say in the program. I and a few others were hiding in the bushes 100m after where Lappi rolled. The rest of the stage is not that interesting when they removed the narrow road.We were out early and there were several officials who saw us when we entered without saying anything, we even had to show rally passes to some when we went on the ss. We were sitting on the rocks that were the edge of the forest right there before you stood and all of a sudden a girl came and said that the whole loop was a forbidden area and we had to quickly change places. We had to run first on the road for a bit and then across the fields to get to the last hairpin. I fully understand that you are not allowed to be in certain places, but then it must be clearly stated that you are not allowed.

[Matti]

Big Jumps, Flat Out & Powerslides | Rally Finland 2022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN9KB33Vup4&ab_channel=Carmovie

[Duvel]

Hello all,
Me and some friends just decided that we are going to do rally Finland this year!! We are really looking forward to this trip! But since it is our first time we are going to that rally we might need some advice.

Like, traveling from Belgium, or the Netherlants whats the best way to get there.
Where can we find some place to stay, we would be whit 5 or 6 persons.
Tips for must do places are also welcome.
All other things we should pay attention for.

Thanks in advance! You can always send me a PM to.

[Duvel]

Hello all,
Me and some friends just decided that we are going to do rally Finland this year!! We are really looking forward to this trip! But since it is our first time we are going to that rally we might need some advice.

Like, traveling from Belgium, or the Netherlants whats the best way to get there.
Where can we find some place to stay, we would be whit 5 or 6 persons.
Tips for must do places are also welcome.
All other things we should pay attention for.

Thanks in advance! You can always send me a PM to.

Anyone can help?

[EstWRC]

Anyone can help?

I’ll send you a PM later in the evening today from my experience

[AnttiL]

Hello all,
Me and some friends just decided that we are going to do rally Finland this year!! We are really looking forward to this trip! But since it is our first time we are going to that rally we might need some advice.

Like, traveling from Belgium, or the Netherlants whats the best way to get there.
Where can we find some place to stay, we would be whit 5 or 6 persons.
Tips for must do places are also welcome.
All other things we should pay attention for.

Thanks in advance! You can always send me a PM to.

Maybe it's better to wait for the announcement of the route which should be in a month or so. But I would suggest an airbnb somewhere in the rally area.

"Must do places" refer to places to spectate in the stages or other things outside the rally?

[Duvel]

Maybe it's better to wait for the announcement of the route which should be in a month or so. But I would suggest an airbnb somewhere in the rally area.

"Must do places" refer to places to spectate in the stages or other things outside the rally?

Both would be welcome. Rally wil be around jyvaskyla again i suppose?

[AnttiL]

Both would be welcome. Rally wil be around jyvaskyla again i suppose?

Yes for sure the route won't change massively, just it's not certain which stages are driven on which day. But service, start and finish in Jyväskylä for sure.

For must do places outside the rally, I recommend Rallimuseo, a rally museum inside the Mobilia car museum in Kangasala. If you drive from Turku or Helsinki to Jyväskylä, it's basically on the way.

[satukata]

Rumours SS myhinpää 2023 rally Finland

[satnav]

Any news when the route for this year is being announced

[AnttiL]

Any news when the route for this year is being announced

Should be this month

[PLuto]

Please, next time start new topic for 2023 edition.