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Crutt
13th February 2022, 14:57
Looking at the possibility of going out to a watch Rally Croatia in April. Any tips from people who managed to go last year? Thanks

tommeke_B
13th February 2022, 20:58
I was there last year. Traveling was very limited at the time, with many countries having their borders basically shut. There were a ton of spectators, while very few from abroad. When we left from SS1 to another, last year, the line of cars was over 7kms long.

What I can say: if the entry is for free again, you might see the biggest spectator chaos in history of modern rallying. Most stages don't have many ways of access. There's not much recommendations or tips to give right now. I'm waiting for the itinerary as well. I comparison to last year think it might change a lot for better safety management, maybe less stages near Karlovac.

Crutt
13th February 2022, 22:01
7km...sounds like the old RAC days. Hope they do make some changes then

matija_1988
14th February 2022, 09:16
Tickets will go on sale soon. There will be some changes from last year. The Shakedown stage will be different.Power stage Kumrovec remains the same. Private vehicles will not be allowed to come to Kumrovec due to traffic jams. Spectator transport will be organized by buses.
New stages near city of Rijeka and Varaždin.


Possible new stage near of Rijeka (Platak)
https://youtu.be/Xi_gByd6OOc


These are rumors. Nothing official.

AnttiL
14th February 2022, 09:29
It's still only a bit more than two months until the rally, the route should be published soon? They already put out the RG1 with no itinerary unlike most rallies.

Fiesta
17th February 2022, 10:49
Supplementary Regulations (and the opening of entries) will be published next Monday (21st). By then we will know the schedule and itinerary.

matija_1988
17th February 2022, 20:26
The itinerary will be published on 21.2.
Detailed maps and information for spectators will be released on March 21.

Fiesta
21st February 2022, 09:41
https://rally-croatia.com/uploads/files/wrc-cr2022-supplementary-regulations.pdf

wwbroe
21st February 2022, 09:48
https://rally-croatia.com/uploads/files/wrc-cr2022-supplementary-regulations.pdf

Thanks for that.;)

AnttiL
21st February 2022, 10:30
Basically most stages carry over from 2021. Two stages from 2021 Friday moved to Saturday, three stages from 2021 Saturday moved to Friday. Same power stage, new opening Sunday stage. New stage on Saturday to replace the one where Rovanperä crashed. New shakedown. Length is a bit less than last year.

Mirek
21st February 2022, 18:11
I'm coming :)

AnttiL
18th March 2022, 08:41
Solberg on third Hyundai.

PLuto
18th March 2022, 10:22
I'm coming :)

So maybe it will be an opportunity to meet after very long time ;)

MYS
18th March 2022, 12:29
Hey Guys. Anybody got experience with acces road to Jarušje village on stage Mali Lipovec last year (in the middle of the stage??? Looks like gravel road on google maps.

becher
18th March 2022, 12:35
Judging by the route one needs a car to watch this rally or would it be possible to watch the odd stage with public transport only?

Danny0405
19th March 2022, 10:42
Kazakhstan rally-raid is cancelled; may open an opportunity for Loeb in Croatia even if I don’t know if M-Sport is already able to provide 5 cars at the same time.

matija_1988
22nd March 2022, 07:19
Maps
https://www.facebook.com/381361532074569/posts/1799802510230457/

http://planetemarcus.com/saison-wrc/wrc-rallye-croatie-2022/

AnttiL
22nd March 2022, 07:37
https://www.rally-maps.com/Croatia-Rally-2022

The Platak stage will have a spectator area in the middle with artificial jump and donut

wwbroe
28th March 2022, 13:50
Entry list is out:)

Andre Oliveira
28th March 2022, 14:42
66 entries

https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries/73359-croatia-rally-2022/

TypeR
29th March 2022, 18:12
Gryazin in start list..? Forgot to remove?

Gordini
29th March 2022, 22:30
12 rally3 fiestas!!

rallyfiend
30th March 2022, 05:08
Gryazin in start list..? Forgot to remove?

Why would he be removed? He is allowed to compete.

Myrvold
1st April 2022, 12:30
Not a single Norwegian flag.
12 Rally3 Fiestas (as already mentioned)
Osamu Fukunaga is probably the most "random" entry so far this year.

On a personal note, great to see Loubet again!

AnttiL
5th April 2022, 11:13
The new Trakoscan stage. The first half is very wide and smooth, will be very fast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc2FwK0t8lU

AnttiL
12th April 2022, 11:02
Route preview https://itgetsfasternow.com/2022/04/12/route-preview-croatia-rally-2022/

AnttiL
12th April 2022, 11:30
And coincidentally recce videos were just published

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUxfOUJ-QAP2XHueAq4jSmQ/videos

Relyman
12th April 2022, 15:53
Hello everyone, I have created a map of Rally Croatia 2022 including tips for spectators.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1KOTYsglq_7YfeB8828ro-jx8qRZPRaKr&usp=sharing

Lancer
13th April 2022, 19:50
Hello Rally Croatia fans. I'm looking for someone to share the spectating on the rally, either to tag along with an existing group or plan our own itinerary. I'm staying in Zagreb for the duration...have rental car...speak Croatian. PM me and let's see if we can work something out. In any case, should be a superb show......see you on the stages!

Kaps
18th April 2022, 12:18
Hello Rally Croatia fans. I'm looking for someone to share the spectating on the rally, either to tag along with an existing group or plan our own itinerary. I'm staying in Zagreb for the duration...have rental car...speak Croatian. PM me and let's see if we can work something out. In any case, should be a superb show......see you on the stages!

Hi Lancer, I did send you a PM, but in "sent items" it still says 0, so I'm not sure if it really went your way, or not?

PLuto
18th April 2022, 12:30
Hi Lancer, I did send you a PM, but in "sent items" it still says 0, so I'm not sure if it really went your way, or not?

Forum went down in previous days due to some error and it takes some time to restore. It is possible that this PM was not delivered, so I can recommend you to send it once again to be sure...

becher
18th April 2022, 14:02
If I buy tickets for the "Fanzone Novigrad na Dobri" can we only spectate the two passes of that stage? Is it restricted where you can watch? The official site doesn't really help me.

matija_1988
18th April 2022, 14:26
If I buy tickets for the "Fanzone Novigrad na Dobri" can we only spectate the two passes of that stage? Is it restricted where you can watch? The official site doesn't really help me.

One ticket- one fan zone.
On the big screen you can see full wrc+ program.

Do you see that?
https://rally-croatia.com/en/spectators/fan-zones

becher
18th April 2022, 14:52
One ticket- one fan zone.
On the big screen you can see full wrc+ program.

Do you see that?
https://rally-croatia.com/en/spectators/fan-zones

Thanks, so ones not able to pick the spot independently and has to stay in a fan zone?

urabus-denoS2000
19th April 2022, 08:59
Inside the Fan Zone, I'd say yes. Of course you can always go to other places, not designated as Fan Zones.

Some Fan Zones may have dedicated parking zones though, all a bit confusing at the moment.

Anyway, can't wait for the show :)

becher
19th April 2022, 09:24
Thank you, guess we'll try to sneak through the woods. Don't really fancy being boxed in at a rally.

Rallyper
19th April 2022, 10:20
Don´t forget Pickems, guys!

AnttiL
19th April 2022, 10:29
Difficult to predict what's going to happen. In Monte we saw that Hyundais are a bit behind on dry tarmac, but have they progressed? Evans is the favourite but he has a bad starting position on Friday, while conversely Rovanperä is the one with only a bad experience from the rally but the best starting position. Breen and Fourmaux could be strong as well.

AnttiL
19th April 2022, 10:32
Also, we could have some rain on Friday

https://www.yr.no/en/forecast/daily-table/2-3191316/Croatia/Zagreba%C4%8Dka/Grad%20Samobor/Samobor
https://www.yr.no/en/forecast/daily-table/2-3345300/Croatia/Karlova%C4%8Dka/Grad%20Karlovac/Karlovac

hutchie
19th April 2022, 10:53
While I think Breen and Fourmaux could have very good pace I just don't see either putting together top times on every stage and winning the rally right now. I think Evans is favourite giving his pace here last year and Rovanperä possibly second favourite. But as you say AnttiL the big question mark is the Hyundai and whether that brings Neuville and Tanak into contention.

EstWRC
19th April 2022, 11:47
For me the clear favorite is Neuville. He lost the win last year due the wrong tyre choice on Saturday. And he has a excellent starting position on Friday while Evans starts far from back. Even so cause we have a high possibility for rain and we saw last year how dirty the roads can get. The only question about Neuville is the car but I’m sure this time Hyundai is more prepared than for Monte.

Rovanperä, Breen and Tänak are interesting to follow. Kalle has no experience from this apart from couple of kilometers. Breen and Tänak were struggling massively last year with the previous generation Hyundai. Interesting to see how they will do now with the new machines.

Lappi hasn’t been on tarmac for ages. How will he do?

Gonna be a interesting rally I’m sure. Can’t wait already

jcevc
19th April 2022, 14:16
I think Evans here will not go directly for the win because if he makes another 0 it will destroy chances for WDC almost completely.
From last year recce I remember (it was much more wet dirt on cuts than later on rally) this roads became even more slippery in case of wet pollution (but already in dry is sooo slippy), so in case of rain in Friday first numbers will have big advantage, but + for crews is that first 2 long stages in friday loop are probably the best of whole rally regarding grip and not so much cutting (especially second one).

I will be present on thursday shakedown, later service park, evening ceremonial start and 2 stages on friday, so if anyone here for some meet, just feel free to contact :)

focus206
19th April 2022, 16:02
For me the clear favorite is Neuville. He lost the win last year due the wrong tyre choice on Saturday. And he has a excellent starting position on Friday while Evans starts far from back. Even so cause we have a high possibility for rain and we saw last year how dirty the roads can get. The only question about Neuville is the car but I’m sure this time Hyundai is more prepared than for Monte.


Driver wise, I agree Neuville is the favourite because of starting position. Car wise though, I'm not sure. Hopefully reliability won't be an issue and he won't be as "terrified" as he was driving in Monte.

PLuto
19th April 2022, 18:23
If you are going to spectate, I can recommend you totake warm clothes. Today it was really cold weather, with cold wind and rain during later afternoon here in Zagreb...

matija_1988
19th April 2022, 19:55
now it's official 🤣🤣🤣

2267

Fast Eddie WRC
20th April 2022, 15:01
O.Solberg during recce:
'Incredibly tricky stages - me and Elliott are both saying these are probably the toughest tarmac stages we have seen !'

EstWRC
20th April 2022, 16:24
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQyVzruWQAkpW8H?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQzEjxNWUAscTS7?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQyDinTXEAQqjVh?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQyDincWYAY9BZE?format=jpg&name=large

EstWRC
20th April 2022, 16:26
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dimviii
20th April 2022, 18:45
Oliver Solberg
@OliverSolberg01
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46m
Our safety note crew dream team! �� Knowing what the latest stage conditions are will be crucial this weekend with all the cuts and changing weather - and Bryan and Denis are legends so it’s great to have them on our side ��

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQzmArpXwAI69PZ?format=jpg&name=large

spyros
21st April 2022, 07:06
good morning is there shakedown today?

TypeR
21st April 2022, 07:07
Hopefully Neuville's new weird shifter knob isn't the only update from last rallies :D

dimviii
21st April 2022, 07:18
good morning is there shakedown today?

https://www.ewrc-results.com/video/39354--shakedown-live-wrc-croatia-rally-2022/

EstWRC
21st April 2022, 07:37
Tänak fastest on 1st run. Last year the best he got on shakedown was 4th.

Plans to use the shakedown to get to know the slick tyres. He had the test only with wet ones

AnttiL
21st April 2022, 07:44
Very interesting results. Tänäk and Lappi fastest, Loubet faster than Greensmith, Evans and Fourmaux very slow.

EstWRC
21st April 2022, 07:46
Very interesting results. Tänäk and Lappi fastest, Loubet faster than Greensmith, Evans and Fourmaux very slow.

And they are fastest again on second run at the moment

Rallyper
21st April 2022, 08:14
Pickems closing is tomorrow morning minutes before start of 1st stage. Closing time 08.30 CEST.

EstWRC
21st April 2022, 08:16
Gryazin off on first pass https://twitter.com/alekslesk/status/1517046075231723522?s=21&t=BArH0QkNZy3In_q2alQkmw

Fast Eddie WRC
21st April 2022, 08:50
It's forecast to be wet tomorrow so the dry shakedown times probably wont mean much.

EstWRC
21st April 2022, 08:51
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJXtghfO-ZU

Fast Eddie WRC
21st April 2022, 09:18
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/tanak-new-wrc-hybrid-regulations-will-make-no-difference/10079284/

EstWRC
21st April 2022, 10:18
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220421/61328ffc375fda6c096f3c0631b207f8.jpg

er88
21st April 2022, 10:20
Baffling times from Evans

EstWRC
21st April 2022, 10:44
Baffling times from Evans

Third pass also slow from him

AnttiL
21st April 2022, 10:54
Kristian Sohlberg hinted on twitter that some drivers were on hard tyres, some on soft. Seeing that most of the stages are short and it's quite cold, soft tyres are the best option. There's only a limited amount of them for this rally (not sure but I think shakedown is included again in the whole rally tyre quota). Possibly also some testing was split between drivers (Kalle on softs, Elfyn on hards)? Anyway tomorrow in rain it will be softs all over.

EstWRC
21st April 2022, 11:00
https://youtu.be/pqRhQSkgpmg

https://youtu.be/YQXhS_Pwvmc

TypeR
21st April 2022, 11:07
Kristian Sohlberg hinted on twitter that some drivers were on hard tyres, some on soft. Seeing that most of the stages are short and it's quite cold, soft tyres are the best option. There's only a limited amount of them for this rally (not sure but I think shakedown is included again in the whole rally tyre quota). Possibly also some testing was split between drivers (Kalle on softs, Elfyn on hards)? Anyway tomorrow in rain it will be softs all over.

8 rain tyres also available

EstWRC
21st April 2022, 11:14
Gonna be really interesting with the rain tomorrow.

Ott said him and the other back starters will be in different league compared to front starters

dimviii
21st April 2022, 11:33
WRCWings
@llluis555
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18m
Different front grille protection strategies to prevent the accumulation of leaves that can affect engine cooling during today's @croatia_rally
shakedown: vertical disposition for the GR Yaris but horizontal for the Puma and the i20 N #WRClive #WRCliveES #WRCjp


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQ3TIVsXoAE3H4H?format=jpg&name=small

Kenneth
21st April 2022, 11:35
Wow crazy time for Kimanthi.

AnttiL
21st April 2022, 11:42
Wow crazy time for Kimanthi.

? Looks normal to me

wyler
21st April 2022, 12:04
Kristian Sohlberg hinted on twitter that some drivers were on hard tyres, some on soft. Seeing that most of the stages are short and it's quite cold, soft tyres are the best option. There's only a limited amount of them for this rally (not sure but I think shakedown is included again in the whole rally tyre quota). Possibly also some testing was split between drivers (Kalle on softs, Elfyn on hards)? Anyway tomorrow in rain it will be softs all over.

from the live this morning: 1st run kalle soft neu hard (+1.8s)

focus206
21st April 2022, 12:28
I haven't realized how (relatively) stretched the standings already are after 2 rounds.
Rovanpera and Neuville are supposed to have an advantage with road position, they have a chance to pull away from the others. But if Neuville DNFs or scores badly while Rovanpera is on the podium, Kalle will be miles ahead everyone else with Finland and Estonia yet to come.

hari
21st April 2022, 13:05
Some pictures from Shakedown: https://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_wrc_croatia_rallye_2022.html

https://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/croatia/5.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/croatia/3.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/croatia/6.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/croatia/4.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/croatia/8.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/croatia/7.jpg

EstWRC
21st April 2022, 14:41
https://youtu.be/oSDracLRhV8

https://youtu.be/eds7Z4isPY0

Eli
21st April 2022, 14:44
Some pictures from Shakedown: https://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_wrc_croatia_rallye_2022.html

https://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/croatia/5.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/croatia/3.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/croatia/6.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/croatia/4.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/croatia/8.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/croatia/7.jpg

Finally Toyota placed their numbers properly.

Fast Eddie WRC
21st April 2022, 14:52
Drivers on the effect rain will have on the stages:

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/how-rain-will-transform-croatia-into-a-different-rally/

Hartusvuori
21st April 2022, 16:18
Wow crazy time for Kimanthi.

The seconds were 50", not 05" as it first was.

er88
21st April 2022, 16:21
Really could be chaos on these stages tomorrow with the rain expected....

Evans should be the man to beat in these conditions, but he's starting very far back and maybe his confidence has taken a big hit after two stupid mistakes cost two podiums (at least). Also seemed strangely slow in shakedown.

Kalle is driving superbly well, looks so at ease and full of confidence. He has to show he has learnt from last year though and keep consistently scoring pts.

Hyundai..., well Tanak and Neuville can both deliver but still a question mark over the car. If the car is on the pace, Neuville is maybe the favourite.

Bit worried how Breen copes, Sweden was a disaster after a subdued Monte (pace wise), and pressure is on him to lead Msport. I want to see better pace as we know the car is quality, but he also has to keep it on the road.

ik1911
21st April 2022, 16:59
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cc_rc/albums/72177720298204899

EstWRC
21st April 2022, 19:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFHIk20zB1o

EstWRC
21st April 2022, 19:01
Muscle power is the best power https://twitter.com/Motor_Esport/status/1517198020156272643?s=20&t=OsK-JzDWeTHD89l6Jf1OTw

drive
21st April 2022, 20:05
And from another angle :) https://youtu.be/jKl72OV2whg

Humber
21st April 2022, 20:06
Muscle power is the best power https://twitter.com/Motor_Esport/status/1517198020156272643?s=20&t=OsK-JzDWeTHD89l6Jf1OTw

Is that a new parc ferme fuel/ battery energy saving rule?

WRCStan
21st April 2022, 20:58
Muscle power is the best power https://twitter.com/Motor_Esport/status/1517198020156272643?s=20&t=OsK-JzDWeTHD89l6Jf1OTw

He's loving it! :D

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 05:48
Morning.

So what are the conditions like, anyone knows?

Kenneth
22nd April 2022, 06:02
? Looks normal to me

Yeah, there were incorrect time at ewrc for while.

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 06:08
It seems it’s very wet

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220422/a119a57246ea5d758d534a10112ae2d9.jpg

TypeR
22nd April 2022, 06:21
ffs
Neuville and Tanak only ones with 1 spare.. Everybody else with 2.

e: and WRC+ again down at the start of rally..

er88
22nd April 2022, 06:24
BT Sport in the UK haven't even started their live stream of wrc+ yet, shocking

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 06:26
Started to work now

rage82
22nd April 2022, 06:26
Started to work nowSame here.

Sent from my M2101K7BNY using Tapatalk

Rallyper
22nd April 2022, 06:27
Morning guys.

TypeR
22nd April 2022, 06:29
seems very slippery

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 06:29
Veeeryyy slippery

Kallle fighting all the time

Rallyper
22nd April 2022, 06:33
Very different conditions from last year...

AnttiL
22nd April 2022, 06:35
It's like tricky^2. Tänak was awesome in these conditions in Germany 2017, can he do it again?

Rallyper
22nd April 2022, 06:37
Oooohh, man!! GG locked brakes and missed a tree by small margin...

AnttiL
22nd April 2022, 06:37
Lucky Greensmith not to hit a tree or roll over

TypeR
22nd April 2022, 06:37
Gus a bit late on braking and went on a bank, but didn't lose too much

Got Mail
22nd April 2022, 06:38
BT Sport in the UK haven't even started their live stream of wrc+ yet, shocking

Now working.

Rallyper
22nd April 2022, 06:40
Now working.

Maybe the only safe is having a submit on WRC+... but it´s missing signal now and then atm.

matija_1988
22nd April 2022, 06:45
Good morning! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220422/fd3d2dec61d2485c9246b4bd41b29616.jpg

AnttiL
22nd April 2022, 06:45
GG losing a lot time, possibly some damage on the car or just rhythm lost completely?

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 06:45
GG losing a lot time, possibly some damage on the car or just rhythm lost completely?

Or not confident in the fog in the middle of the stage

Rallyper
22nd April 2022, 06:50
Lappi puncture?

Essaj
22nd April 2022, 06:51
Lappi puncture?

That's more than a puncture

Stupid mistake tbf

Rallyper
22nd April 2022, 06:51
Katsuta stopped.
Edit: Mixed pics. It was Lappi stopped.

erikli2
22nd April 2022, 06:52
Over and out for EP, suspension damage probably when he hit the rock with the wheel turned.

erikli2
22nd April 2022, 06:53
Was that a smoking CV joint rolling out in in front of EP:s car..?

er88
22nd April 2022, 06:57
That is a schoolboy error from Lappi. Terrible

Sulland
22nd April 2022, 06:57
To bad for EP.
Is he out of the way for the next cars?

er88
22nd April 2022, 06:58
Later starters can't compete with that monster time from Kalle

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 06:59
Did Thierry and Kalle had less fog?

Others loosing massively in the foggy part. The road getting more polluted too of course

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 07:05
I really hope others have more to say on next stages or This will be a very boring one if it continues like this…

Essaj
22nd April 2022, 07:06
Kalle solo carrying the Toyota flag

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 07:17
Loubet with double puncture

AnttiL
22nd April 2022, 07:19
I really hope others have more to say on next stages or This will be a very boring one if it continues like this…

It's still exciting because it's so tricky and the top guys could have an off any moment

rallyfiend
22nd April 2022, 07:21
I really hope others have more to say on next stages or This will be a very boring one if it continues like this…

Bloody hell. The negativity....

And some on here want LONGER rallies!

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 07:28
Bloody hell. The negativity....

And some on here want LONGER rallies!

Lol

Where the negativity. I want a close fight, yes it’s still close between Kalle and Thierry and a long way to go. Shame the others lost quite a lot already on first stage

And I still want longer rallies

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 07:32
Thierry again starts to loose to Kalle on the foggy part

jonkka
22nd April 2022, 07:32
Again Thierry starts strong, faster on first split but then slips...

AnttiL
22nd April 2022, 07:33
Lol

Where the negativity. I want a close fight, yes it’s still close between Kalle and Thierry and a long way to go. Shame the others lost quite a lot already on first stage

And I still want longer rallies

Just be patient and we'll get some fights going on

dimviii
22nd April 2022, 07:35
lol

Breen Craig - Nagle Paul
"Tricky, but maybe not as bad as anticipated. It's the first time I've had the wipers on in this car, so it was a lot of discovering."

AnttiL
22nd April 2022, 07:40
lol

Breen Craig - Nagle Paul
"Tricky, but maybe not as bad as anticipated. It's the first time I've had the wipers on in this car, so it was a lot of discovering."

Amazing considering they've done most of their testing in England, it has never rained?!

Essaj
22nd April 2022, 07:41
lol

Breen Craig - Nagle Paul
"Tricky, but maybe not as bad as anticipated. It's the first time I've had the wipers on in this car, so it was a lot of discovering."

Didn't he crash in Sweden partly cause he had wipers on ;)

AnttiL
22nd April 2022, 07:42
Didn't he crash in Sweden partly cause he had wipers on ;)

yeah the washer was stuck on all the time

Now Breen went slightly off

jonkka
22nd April 2022, 07:42
Amazing considering they've done most of their testing in England, it has never rained?!

Maybe modern rally drivers have clause in their contract, no testing in bad weather.

Maybe M-Sport doesn't have budget to wash the car, so no testing in bad weather.

Maybe this was first time their hi-tech wipers actually worked?

/s

flat_right
22nd April 2022, 07:44
Amazing considering they've done most of their testing in England, it has never rained?!

And I wonder if he didn't use them in Monte or Sweden just to clean the windscreen? Or if he meant that he hadn't driven in wet conditions with wipers working all the time, then this is even more strange for me. How different can it be from previous years... Very strange.

WRC1
22nd April 2022, 07:44
it would be better if M-Sport give Rally2 Cars to its "Works"Drivers and only give the real car to real drivers (Loeb) would save them a lot of money and the results would be almost the same...

Fast Eddie WRC
22nd April 2022, 07:48
SS1 Chris Ingram 2nd fastest in WRC2.

Oliverk
22nd April 2022, 07:50
What kind of s**t live is this.

TypeR
22nd April 2022, 07:50
lol, stage is running and LIVE shows service park webcam

Eli
22nd April 2022, 07:54
What kind of s**t live is this.

The stream quality is amazing, just amazing!!!

TypeR
22nd April 2022, 07:55
WRC+ should also do PET's..

Essaj
22nd April 2022, 07:55
They literally cut from perfectly working cam on Evans' car back to service

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 07:58
Man Tänak and Breen already so far back time wise

Eli
22nd April 2022, 08:04
Man Tänak and Breen already so far back time wise

Still a long way to go, lets hope they just get to the end of the day in one piece.

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 08:06
Not a bad time from Fourmaux

Loubet with a puncture again?

Rally Hokkaido
22nd April 2022, 08:06
Loubet travelling slowly

matija_1988
22nd April 2022, 08:10
Rain on ss3

TypeR
22nd April 2022, 08:13
huge disappointment for Loubet.. seems like another (3rd) puncture on SS2

any point to continue? better to save budget for other event?

er88
22nd April 2022, 08:18
Massive puncture risk for later starters too. Minefield

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 08:19
So slippery. Thierry with a great save and all over the place

Norm75
22nd April 2022, 08:30
And I wonder if he didn't use them in Monte or Sweden just to clean the windscreen? Or if he meant that he hadn't driven in wet conditions with wipers working all the time, then this is even more strange for me. How different can it be from previous years... Very strange.
What Breen said basically means he hasn’t really driven the car in wet conditions. Don’t take the wiper comment too literally.

AnttiL
22nd April 2022, 08:32
WRC+ should also do PET's..

I don't think there's anything to do in this kind of "tricky conditions". Remember that this kind of live footage from a moving car in the mountains/forest is quite extraordinary in the first place. Strong wind and clouds interfere with the wireless signal from car to transmitter plane.

It's a different thing if we get "Heartbeat error" or something, it's just bad engineering with their website / background services.

Fast Eddie WRC
22nd April 2022, 08:38
SS3 time better by Breen, at least in the ballpark of the top two.

TypeR
22nd April 2022, 08:41
Evans activated stage mode, fastest on split 1 by 1.7s

AnttiL
22nd April 2022, 08:42
Also nice time from Tänak

TypeR
22nd April 2022, 08:42
Fourmaux crash

Rallyper
22nd April 2022, 08:42
Fourmaux off.

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 08:43
The same place where Neuville had a moment

Rallyper
22nd April 2022, 08:44
Lost the rear and went trough a hedge...

Fast Eddie WRC
22nd April 2022, 08:45
Hybrid boost off the line maybe didnt help Fourmaux.

Fast Eddie WRC
22nd April 2022, 08:45
Evans shows his true pace.

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 08:46
Where the hell that suddenly came from Evans

Nice job

AnttiL
22nd April 2022, 08:47
Where the hell that suddenly came from Evans

Nice job

Less cutting on this stage.

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 08:48
What a privilege that house owner has

An expensive rally car in your front yard the whole day

er88
22nd April 2022, 08:51
Still grates that Msport could've had a stronger team for their new car, yet literally showed no ambition and took the money instead.

Greenslow back to his usual and Fourmaux can't buy a clean rally.

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 09:05
Still grates that Msport could've had a stronger team for their new car, yet literally showed no ambition and took the money instead.

Greenslow back to his usual and Fourmaux can't buy a clean rally.

Agreed.

Loeb will save them on rally Portugal again

skarderud
22nd April 2022, 09:15
Still grates that Msport could've had a stronger team for their new car, yet literally showed no ambition and took the money instead.

Greenslow back to his usual and Fourmaux can't buy a clean rally.It's a dude in a Skoda they can call, he and Loeb would help a lot.

Sent fra min SM-G950F via Tapatalk

Fast Eddie WRC
22nd April 2022, 09:29
Kalle with a moment or two...

er88
22nd April 2022, 09:32
It's a dude in a Skoda they can call, he and Loeb would help a lot.

Sent fra min SM-G950F via TapatalkThey should have Breen and Mikkelsen as the two safe pts scorers for the full season. Can both be in and around podium places on a fair few events, and maybe Breen can challenge for a win in Ypres/ Finland.

Then the other car should be Loeb for his 4 events (beg him to do more), shared with other drivers like Meeke for a few events, maybe Suninen for 1 or 2 etc. Basically drivers who will drive the arse out of the car in their favourite events and give us some excitement / maybe challenge for a win with superb road position. That would give Ford proper publicity, like in Monte. Remember Ford are heavily backing this car/ hybrid era, this isn't hard up Msport being hung out to fend for themselves.

Greensmith should be doing a Loubet as a full pay driver outside of a manufacturer team. Fourmaux is sadly feeling the pressure, I had high hopes for him but let's hope he improves.

Fast Eddie WRC
22nd April 2022, 09:44
These wet muddy stages should suit Breen... very like Ireland.

Jarek Z
22nd April 2022, 09:50
Very good stage times from Chris Ingram - better than Gryazin, Kajto, Lefebvre, Camili, Huttunen, Lindholm...

spiderem
22nd April 2022, 09:54
you are a bit arsh on Greensmith, so far he is still faster than Solberg, Katsuta and Evans...

Fast Eddie WRC
22nd April 2022, 09:54
Tanak lost time to Breen on the wetter road.

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 09:55
Massive loss for Ott in the second half of the stage

Only 1.9 secs in front of Breen now

TypeR
22nd April 2022, 10:01
Massive loss for Ott in the second half of the stage

Only 1.9 secs in front of Breen now
Gap to Neuville is more important than to Breen..
Hopefully 2nd loop will make things a bit closer.

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 10:01
Gonna be interesting evening loop. Kalle now has 50+ cars dirt on the road all over the place compared to clean road in the morning

TypeR
22nd April 2022, 10:05
What happened in WRC3 on SS2? Armstrong over half a minute faster than anybody else..

seb_sh
22nd April 2022, 10:08
Interesting rally so far, dissapointed in Fourmaux, he's starting to remind of other young MSport drivers.

Fast Eddie WRC
22nd April 2022, 10:10
Shame Ingram not getting any coverage even though 2nd in WRC2.

Fast Eddie WRC
22nd April 2022, 10:15
What happened in WRC3 on SS2? Armstrong over half a minute faster than anybody else..

M-Sport Poland @msportpoland
ARMSTRONG 13TH FASTEST OVERALL ON SS2 IN FIESTA RALLY3 !!

AnttiL
22nd April 2022, 10:39
Interesting rally so far, dissapointed in Fourmaux, he's starting to remind of other young MSport drivers.

Latvala, Tänak, Evans, Suninen, …

becher
22nd April 2022, 11:03
Is there any footage of the Fourmaux off?

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 11:04
Thierry and Martijn totally exhausted after pushing the car into time control. Seems they had done it for a long time already.

Was late too, penalty coming in. arrived after Taka

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 11:11
Neuville got 40 secs penalty and is 4th now

wyler
22nd April 2022, 11:13
Thierry and Martijn totally exhausted after pushing the car into time control. Seems they had done it for a long time already.

Was late too, penalty coming in. arrived after Taka

drop to 4th o/a

AnttiL
22nd April 2022, 11:14
Is there any footage of the Fourmaux off?

Photos

https://twitter.com/dirtfishrally/status/1517461615930707968?s=21

wyler
22nd April 2022, 11:20
Is there any footage of the Fourmaux off?

aftermath
https://www.facebook.com/100001667333474/videos/1072208850098677

denkimi
22nd April 2022, 11:34
Thierry and Martijn totally exhausted after pushing the car into time control. Seems they had done it for a long time already.

Was late too, penalty coming in. arrived after Taka
What was/is the problem?

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 11:40
What was/is the problem?

Alternator issue

They pushed it 800 meters

AnttiL
22nd April 2022, 11:42
Fourmaux has crashed now all tarmac starts since last year's Croatia. Ypres, Catalunya (just a minor off, damaging suspension), Monza, Monte and Croatia. Meanwhile, gravel starts in Portugal, Safari and Acropolis were decent and Finland good in the sense of no mistakes.

focus206
22nd April 2022, 11:52
Was about to comment it's good to see Hyundais up there, now Kalle has a huge chance. Confirmation that speed isn't the problem for Hyundai.

seb_sh
22nd April 2022, 11:54
If positions at the end are similar to now then Kalle is absolutely the favourite this year.

WRC1
22nd April 2022, 12:08
If positions at the end are similar to now then Kalle is absolutely the favourite this year.

well deserved! he made no mistakes this year till now! potentional new superstar!

AnttiL
22nd April 2022, 12:25
Rovanperä leading by 47.3 s, when was the last time P1 to P2 was this long in Friday midday service?

Fast Eddie WRC
22nd April 2022, 12:40
Chris Ingram had a great loop and is 2nd in WRC2 and leads WRC2 Junior by 52.5 sec !

https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/73359-croatia-rally-2022/?s=354733&sct=1970

doubled1978
22nd April 2022, 12:53
Thierry and Martijn totally exhausted after pushing the car into time control. Seems they had done it for a long time already.

Was late too, penalty coming in. arrived after Taka

Well that’s a shame, Kalle out on his own now. That said I don’t think anyone can be totall confident of making no errors in these conditions.

240RS
22nd April 2022, 12:56
Taking into account the early season performance of all the leading drivers, it's clear there were only four possible title contenders.

Throw-in a poor start for Hyundai for whatever reasons (Neuville &, particularly, Tanak) and add the combination of self-induced/plain bad-luck dogging Elfyn Evans, and you begin to see we may only have one real protagonist here - Rovanpera.

Still early in the year, but you feel Kalle can only lose it now.

rallyfiend
22nd April 2022, 13:07
Chris Ingram had a great loop and is 2nd in WRC2 and leads WRC2 Junior by 52.5 sec !

https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/73359-croatia-rally-2022/?s=354733&sct=1970

Ummm - isn't it only 13 seconds over Gryazin?

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 13:10
Kalle 16 secs slower in split two than in the morning

TypeR
22nd April 2022, 13:11
seems very difficult for Kalle as he is not used to mud on road..

edit: but manages to drive fast tho

WRCStan
22nd April 2022, 13:14
Chris Ingram had a great loop and is 2nd in WRC2 and leads WRC2 Junior by 52.5 sec !

https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/73359-croatia-rally-2022/?s=354733&sct=1970

Two Mancs in the top 10! Maybe feel at home in the damp.

Edit: Ooops

WRCStan
22nd April 2022, 13:16
Ummm - isn't it only 13 seconds over Gryazin?

Yes, eWRC filter is not including Gryzly in Junior.

TypeR
22nd April 2022, 13:19
Problems for Gus?
+48s
FL tyre gone and rim is a wreck
FR rim and tyre also heavily damaged

disaster day for Ford..

cosmin_sb
22nd April 2022, 13:22
puncture for Gus

Rally Hokkaido
22nd April 2022, 13:25
Gus=right front tyre gone & left front rim damaged

wyler
22nd April 2022, 13:26
lots of similar punctures, tires coming off from the rim...Pirelli's flavor?

TypeR
22nd April 2022, 13:26
https://www.upload.ee/image/14075780/gg1.jpg
https://www.upload.ee/image/14075783/gg2.jpg

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 13:33
We will have Sunday already tomorrow

lol

Evans pace is really worrying apart from that one stage win

Eli
22nd April 2022, 13:54
We will have Sunday already tomorrow

lol

Evans pace is really worrying apart from that one stage win

At least Both Tänak & Neuville look to be on much better pace here in comparison to Monte Carlo, even Solberg junior is 5th, hopefully Hyundai can keep all cars running (well) till the end.

er88
22nd April 2022, 14:03
Thierry now struggling a bit to see due to misted windscreen.

Just niggly things always for Hyundai drivers to deal with

wyler
22nd April 2022, 14:06
wrc2 "scratch" for huttunen on ss5

Fast Eddie WRC
22nd April 2022, 14:08
Horrible conditions of wet, mud, fog and misting screens.

er88
22nd April 2022, 14:12
No luck for Neuville today.

Fast Eddie WRC
22nd April 2022, 14:14
Gus gone off but lucky. Solberg too.

wyler
22nd April 2022, 14:15
Gus gone off but lucky.

oliver too

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 14:19
Fog IMO worse for Breen, Tänak and etc

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 14:26
This Kalle domination is very frightening

Really really frightening

Rallyper
22nd April 2022, 14:28
This Kalle domination is very frightening

Really really frightening

New Loeb/Ogier ??

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 14:29
Lol at Tänak:”we pushed at the part we couldn’t see”

Eli
22nd April 2022, 14:30
This Kalle domination is very frightening

Really really frightening

I thought to myself before the rally, I don’t see anyone challenging him this year, the only ones who can are not doing a full season, with that said I’ve still put Neuville for the win here.

focus206
22nd April 2022, 14:33
This Kalle domination is very frightening

Really really frightening

If he has improved his consistency, I already see nobody stopping him... It's early in the season, but still.

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 14:35
I thought to myself before the rally, I don’t see anyone challenging him this year, the only ones who can are not doing a full season, with that said I’ve still put Neuville for the win here.

Well it’s only third rally of the season but indeed if he scores also big points from here and continues in a form like this then it’s basically his to loose.

I still have some hopes with Tänak. He seems his old self again this week, much happier and said yesterday the car is now working as it should. He has a good starting positions for next gravel rallies but he can’t allow any low score points events anymore against Kalle but that is questionable, we saw today with Neuville that car has gremlins

TypeR
22nd April 2022, 15:01
Well it’s only third rally of the season but indeed if he scores also big points from here and continues in a form like this then it’s basically his to loose.

I still have some hopes with Tänak. He seems his old self again this week, much happier and said yesterday the car is now working as it should. He has a good starting positions for next gravel rallies but he can’t allow any low score points events anymore against Kalle but that is questionable, we saw today with Neuville that car has gremlins

I have been thinking the same about Tänak today.. stage end interviews are calm and happy((ier) than before). Hopefully gets a good result from Croatia!

But about Kalle.. brings back memories about Tänak during 18'-19' seasons in Toyota..
Doing really good job today in these conditions(both first clean and second muddy loop)

Rallyper
22nd April 2022, 15:11
Tanak lost 20 secs...???

TypeR
22nd April 2022, 15:12
Puncture for Tänak?!
Neuville passed him, 15s ahead

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 15:16
What a shame for Ott, did fantastic so far

Fortunately not a huge loss

Fast Eddie WRC
22nd April 2022, 15:16
Disappointing time again by Breen. I thought he would thrive in these conditions but he's getting worse as it goes on.

Essaj
22nd April 2022, 15:19
So who else is missing Loeb and/or Ogier now? Maybe then we had battle... ;)

becher
22nd April 2022, 15:23
Disappointing time again by Breen. I thought he would thrive in these conditions but he's getting worse as it goes on.

Well apart from Ypres, did he ever show something on tarmac in a WRCar or Rally1?

er88
22nd April 2022, 15:29
Annoying we have been robbed of a "potential" battle for the lead. Kalle has been supreme, but without Neuville's 40secs penalty and him dropping 10secs (give or take) with a steamed up windscreen, Thierry would at least be keeping Kalle honest going into tomorrow with reverse road position.

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 15:29
So who else is missing Loeb and/or Ogier now? Maybe then we had battle... ;)

Isn’t that black and white. Depends where they would start

But would be interesting to see anyway

tc10a
22nd April 2022, 15:30
156 km/h in a 80 km/h zone - massive speeding for Neuville today.
1900€ fine and report to the stewards for possible further action - see COC Notification No. 1

https://storage.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/sportity-storage/o/0050d93b-ce42-4b88-8698-00f3d631faef%2Fa50a2e7e-2b09-4e72-b63a-3acfeb8eb8ea_COC%20Notification%201.pdf?generation =1650641369823185&alt=media

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 15:33
Annoying we have been robbed of a "potential" battle for the lead. Kalle has been supreme, but without Neuville's 40secs penalty and him dropping 10secs (give or take) with a steamed up windscreen, Thierry would at least be keeping Kalle honest going into tomorrow with reverse road position.

And pitty that Ott had a puncture, now the fight for second died a little but still a chance

Essaj
22nd April 2022, 15:35
156 km/h in a 80 km/h zone - massive speeding for Neuville today.
1900€ fine and report to the stewards for possible further action - see COC Notification No. 1

https://storage.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/sportity-storage/o/0050d93b-ce42-4b88-8698-00f3d631faef%2Fa50a2e7e-2b09-4e72-b63a-3acfeb8eb8ea_COC%20Notification%201.pdf?generation =1650641369823185&alt=media

Neuville has history with speeding. Maybe there should be major penalty finally?

er88
22nd April 2022, 15:41
Neuville has history with speeding. Maybe there should be major penalty finally?Basically all these drivers do, although some more than others. Panic sets in when tight for time needing to get to a Time control.

The drivers speed because they get away with it. They wouldn't do it if it was an automatic disqualification from the whole rally ( no restart either)

wyler
22nd April 2022, 15:52
Great day at M-sport continues: crash for huttunen too!

Rallyper
22nd April 2022, 16:04
Kalle is so mature. Avoiding cuts where there are massive potential for puncture. It´s a bit of Ogier in him right now.

Rallyper
22nd April 2022, 16:05
A good day it was, said Jonne after passing finish line.

Did Becsy quote me in All Live just now?? :) :)

jonkka
22nd April 2022, 16:06
A good day it was, said Janne after passing finish line.

Janne who?

Rallyper
22nd April 2022, 16:10
Janne who?

Maybe Jonne is Janne in Swedish...? ;) My bad...

er88
22nd April 2022, 16:11
Is that Guus retired then?

TypeR
22nd April 2022, 16:13
Done for Gus. FL all gone and RL empty + driveshaft?

Damn

er88
22nd April 2022, 16:15
Taka now with the front left puncture as well!!! Must be a nasty cut

jonkka
22nd April 2022, 16:15
Maybe Jonne is Janne in Swedish...? ;) My bad...

:D
Perhaps it's nitpicking but a tidbit is that Jonne, while it's a actual and proper name, is also used in Finnish in derogatory meaning as a reference to youth lacking intellect. Little bit like brat.

TypeR
22nd April 2022, 16:17
too many punctures today.. hopefully Pirelli will make them stronger..

Would love to hear Ostberg's comments about today's punctures :D :D

Rallyper
22nd April 2022, 16:19
Oliver now in RX mode... :)

Fast Eddie WRC
22nd April 2022, 16:22
Well apart from Ypres, did he ever show something on tarmac in a WRCar or Rally1?

He hasn't done that many TBF.
But he's done plenty in R5 and on wet muddy roads back in Ireland.

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 16:25
Nice day from Tänak from his position. Glad to see him enjoying again over years and what a contrast to last years Croatia

Said lost the hybrid again in this stage

TypeR
22nd April 2022, 16:26
Tänak had problems with HY sht box once again :D
overall rather happy, but unfortunate with that puncture though..

Eli
22nd April 2022, 16:27
He hasn't done that many TBF.
But he's done plenty in R5 and on wet muddy roads back in Ireland.

I think the last time Breen competed in a wrc car in wet conditions was back in Catalunya 2018 where he finished 9th with the C3.

TypeR
22nd April 2022, 16:37
why is WRC+ showing Gryazin and his interview..??

dimviii
22nd April 2022, 16:43
too many punctures today.. hopefully Pirelli will make them stronger..

Would love to hear Ostberg's comments about today's punctures :D :D

https://twitter.com/voiceofrally/status/1517465738918830082

dupanton
22nd April 2022, 16:51
It's easy to say it's a lottery and the puncture are caused by Pirelli. I'm sure a lot of them could be avoided. When cutting you need to stay in the cut long enough and not slide out of it. That is how you push tyres off the rims and damage rims.

Fast Eddie WRC
22nd April 2022, 17:11
Lappi's rock...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQ9sOrdWQAYd1W1?format=jpg&name=900x900

Fast Eddie WRC
22nd April 2022, 17:26
Anyone heard news of Chris Ingram and why his afternoon loop was so much slower ?

seb_sh
22nd April 2022, 17:45
Interesting how there is again a driver with fewer issues and punctures than the rest. He is probably just lucky like Loeb and Ogier. /s

EstWRC
22nd April 2022, 18:25
https://youtu.be/HL3FQZl4V9k

https://youtu.be/pDtMQaHlw5s