Rally d'Italia-Sardegna

[jonkka]

Late for brake caliber change, I don't expect any residue from that

[Goran Saric]

Penalty for P. Solberg : 10 seconds
Why?

[wrc_flipper]

Why, one minute late in TC? Could mean technical problems.


....his crew struggled to change a brake caliper

[Mauri A]

Bosse 30 secs faster than in the morning.

[KKS]

20:58.0 for Seb, Thank you ))

[Finni]

Seems that Grönholm going few sec faster than Seb.

[jonkka]

There he is...

[ZequeArgentina]

Latvala is keeping the pace, he is also confirming the speed he showed in Argentina.

[kleisj]

Latvala on the pace of Gron by split 2!!!

[GigiGalliNo1]

loeb slow

jarri good splits!

[Mauri A]

Watching Sordo's pace I bet that Seb will beat Marcus by ten seconds in that one as he finnishes the stage.
Lost your bet!

[jonkka]

Marcus is faster, this sounds good...

[kakus]

Why?

http://www.wrc.com/page/News/BreakingNewsDetail/0,,10111~1027185,00.html

[Halvis]

Looks like Petter got some problems on this stage - again...

[Finni]

Lost your bet!

Fortunately!

By the way; I have not seen any driver interviews from this rally.. so telling how our loved sport is treated nowadays..

[jonkka]

Gronholm takes the lead

[AndyRAC]

Fortunately!

By the way; I have not seen any driver interviews from this rally.. so telling how our loved sport is treated nowadays..


Maybe that's how the F1A want it...... :mad: :mad:

[SubaruNorway]

Had a slight hope that this would be an exiting weekend but NO :bigcry:

[Buzz Lightyear]

I think loeb is driving around C4's lack of grip, fords look to have it sorted..

[Finni]

Excellent time by Jari-Matti. One sec ahead of Hirvonen and in the same second with Loeb!

[Finni]

Loeb will storm in this rally when he gets his set-up sorted. But now it'sd interesting to see because Marcus has got some advantage.

[jonkka]

Had a slight hope that this would be an exiting weekend but NO :bigcry:

You got your priorities screwed, it is exciting.

[Rally_Rocks]

Fortunately!

By the way; I have not seen any driver interviews from this rally.. so telling how our loved sport is treated nowadays..

Thats because there is no rally radio!!!!!

Where do you think all the other sites get their end of stage quotes from?

Who's starting the campaign to bring rally radio back?

[GigiGalliNo1]

Who's starting the campaign to bring rally radio back?

Shall I?

[Mauri A]

Loeb will storm in this rally when he gets his set-up sorted. But now it'sd interesting to see because Marcus has got some advantage.
You will loose all your bets in this rally!!!

[kleisj]

But still I can't understand why so much different results the second drivers from the first ones! I mean we see constantly big differences!
This was not the case in the past. They are just not fast enough as their team mates.

[russellwrx]

Every time subaru goes to service it comes back with problems. Peter should stay away from service may be car will last longer. :mad:

[jonkka]

But still I can't understand why so much different the second drivers from the first ones! I mean we see constantly big differences!
This was not the case in the past. They are just not fast enough as their team mates.

Simple: current number twos are juniors and are against senior number ones. In the past second and even third drivers were almost as good as number ones.

[Mauri A]

But still I can't understand why so much different results the second drivers from the first ones! I mean we see constantly big differences!
This was not the case in the past. They are just not fast enough as their team mates.
They are there for manu points.

[Halvis]

No news on what Petter's problem was? Puncture again? Or brake problems?

[MHjerpe]

Every time subaru goes to service it comes back with problems. Peter should stay away from service may be car will last longer. :mad:

Discovery-channel must have something to film/capture :)

[Doon]

Bloody hell, Jaan Molder was absolutely flying on SS3, almost 1min quicker than any other Junior and only 38s behind fastest stage time by Henning!!

[harriswrc]

Bloody hell, Jaan Molder was absolutely flying on SS3, almost 1min quicker than any other Junior and only 38s behind fastest stage time by Henning!!His time is not correct. Results will be fixed soon.

[ZequeArgentina]

wrong timing, just look at the splits

[kleisj]

Simple: current number twos are juniors and are against senior number ones. In the past second and even third drivers were almost as good as number ones.

Yeap is like that. I rate Hirvo much higher than Sordo or Atko but still cannot be on the pace of the leaders. Gigi or Henning should had a place with the manu teams. Much better than Sordo or Atko.
Sorry for the
http://img164.exs.cx/img164/7827/offtopic8mg.gif

[teufel]

What a great fight between Aava and PG!

[teufel]

nobody here?

[Halvis]

Auch, Petter's time loss on SS4 clearly is due to some mech problems, he keeps loosing a lot on SS5, 6.9 secs into split 1. And one more stage before service. Damn!

[teufel]

Terranova stage is Seb's playground he's gonna take it again...

[jonas_mcrae]

oh no I start seeing some Loeb domination now, bad bad...

[ZequeArgentina]

why this preocupation?
Seb vs Marcus is getting more interesting.

[xavier]

Wow, Marcus lost 10 sec in the last split!

does anyone know if it is a spin or Mechanical ?

[Luckin]

... yep, it is his playground, 12 sec faster than Gronholm. A mistake by Marcus maybe?

[jonkka]

Must be a mistake or problem, 10 sec is quite a lot (even if split is long, almost 5 mins)

[jonkka]

No splits for Latvala... hmm...

[Halvis]

No time for Latvala...

[N.O.T]

I think marcus knew that Loeb is going to push and probably made a small mistake....

Now Loeb ha thew chance to capitalise....

Hanninesn times are very discouraging....the car doesn't help of course but still nothing inmportant.

[jonas_mcrae]

stohl in trouble too

[jonkka]

Of course he knew, at this point everyone but Wilson jr pushes like hell.

[jonkka]

Hmm, Stohl finished but no time for either Atko or JML?

[N.O.T]

Atkinson and Latvala didn't finish

[SubaruNorway]

Problems for Atkison and Latvala?

[Donney]

This is getting worrying....

[jonas_mcrae]

there it goes latvala's great run

[Buzz Lightyear]

i think latvala is maybe ok, as the splits has a arrow indicating stage start is not there, so maybe gps error. more worried about atkinson.. has he had split coming thro ok

[HaCo]

Atkinson and Latvala didn't finish

What a shame :(

Next stage running!!

[Christina]

I'm hanging onto the hope that JM's GPS is broken. *crosses fingers*

[Donney]

Any news yet?

[Halvis]

If you go to BFG's page, Stohl and Gardemeister is classified, but no Atkinson, nor Latvala.

I think we can reckon them to have gone off...

[Waldrons11]

Gronholm broke shock absorber, not sure if he can make it through stage 6.

Latvala ripped a wheel off.

Atko hit a rock and stuck in a ditch.

But Mr Loeb sails through unscathed!

[Donney]

http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/angry020.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

[jonas_mcrae]

well, marcus still on stage

[xavier]

Gronholm broke shock absorber, not sure if he can make it through stage 6.

Latvala ripped a wheel off.

Atko hit a rock and stuck in a ditch.

But Mr Loeb sails through unscathed!

I just saw marcus 1st split in SS6.. -6 sec :-(
darn what a pity for the rally... JML: also a pity.
Atko? in a ditch? that's unusual!

[Halvis]

+6.2 for Marcus on split 1 - Seb's already taken the lead.

[Donney]

There goes all the excitement of the rally.

[Waldrons11]

well, marcus still on stage

But losing a second a kilometre in stage 6. Loeb will be leading going into day 2 .. again! Damn that mans luck, (and ability and car!)

[Halvis]

No reports on what's wrong with Petter's car? A bloody pity that all but Loeb experience problems - takes the excitement away...

[Rally_Rocks]

Gronholm broke shock absorber, not sure if he can make it through stage 6.

Latvala ripped a wheel off.

Atko hit a rock and stuck in a ditch.

But Mr Loeb sails through unscathed!

Wherte are you managing to get this info so quick???

[Buzz Lightyear]

Gronholm broke shock absorber, not sure if he can make it through stage 6.

Latvala ripped a wheel off.

Atko hit a rock and stuck in a ditch.

But Mr Loeb sails through unscathed!


impressive, where you get your info!!

[jonkka]

Youngster on a charge!

[Waldrons11]

No reports on what's wrong with Petter's car? A bloody pity that all but Loeb experience problems - takes the excitement away...

Petter had brake problems when he left service, thats why he was late out of the midday service.

[jonas_mcrae]

hey mikko steping up for marcus, well done

[Halvis]

Hirvonen very fast on this one - Henning will have to surprise me to keep up the same pace..

[Finni]

What's wrong with Sordo? He continually does succesfull first splits but toward end looses his speed.

[jonas_mcrae]

Hirvonen very fast on this one - Henning will have to surprise me to keep up the same pace..

there you are!

[Christina]

WRC.com Says that Jari-matti stopped with a broken suspension and Chris "came into contact with a rock bed".

[Donney]

Hirvonen can make it, still.

[teufel]

pity for Latvala :(

[N.O.T]

What is the difference between a sick dog andf a rally driver ??

Sick dogs cannot handle the pressure....

[N.O.T]

Villagra and Hanninen are the biggest dissapointments so far :( :(

[jonkka]

Sick dog?

[N.O.T]

Solbergs time shows that Subaru 07 is equal to a 06 focus with a broken shock absorber .... niiiiice

[N.O.T]

Sordo passes P.Solberg...2.7 now infront of him

[Mauri A]

Timo Rautiainen in Finnish TV:
Oil out of front shock absorber on SS 5, some fire on brake disc, drove SS 6 without shock absorber.

[N.O.T]

Sick dog?

yes, everytime Gronholm or any other try to be close to Loeb they fail to perform without a flaw....i think thats the reason Gronholm doesn't make so many mistakes anymore...he just knows that Loebs pace cannot be matched and preferes a safer approach.

[Waldrons11]

Solbergs time shows that Subaru 07 is equal to a 06 focus with a broken shock absorber .... niiiiice

But Petter is driving with 3 brakes only working

[Mauri A]

Sick dog?
Mitsubishi!

[N.O.T]

BFG site has sordo infront of SOlberg while the estonians have P SOlberg infront....which is the correct one?

[Corny]

Timo Rautiainen in Finnish TV:
Oil out of front shock absorber on SS 5, some fire on brake disc, drove SS 6 without shock absorber.

Is he going to lose more time?

[Waldrons11]

BFG site has sordo infront of SOlberg while the estonians have P SOlberg infront....which is the correct one?

Sordo infront, its the same on wrc.com. They haven't added his 10 sec time penalty yet.

[jonkka]

BFG site has sordo infront of SOlberg while the estonians have P SOlberg infront....which is the correct one?

BFG, others haven't yet applied Petter's 10sec penalty.

[teufel]

Villagra and Hanninen are the biggest dissapointments so far :( :(

Hanninen is no disappointment for me, ha had also a solid day in GB06 with the C2 s1600, and then he pushed on the other days.

[N.O.T]

he lost around 25 on the final stage of the day....

[SubaruNorway]

Is he going to lose more time?

Finished for today corny

[jonkka]

Waldrons!

[Luckin]

Has there ever been a rally where Loeb lost a 20s lead? Such a shame... Obviously it´s not over yet, but it was so interesting one hour ago.

[A.F.F.]

Long time no see kleisj, nice to see again :wave:

Good day to others too :wave:

Seemed liked a surprising morning but by the end of the leg 1, things seem to be normal again :mark: Apart from Henning of course.

[jonas_mcrae]

what time is next stage?

[kleisj]

Long time no see kleisj, nice to see again :wave:

Good day to others too :wave:

Seemed liked a surprising morning but by the end of the leg 1, things seem to be normal again :mark: Apart from Henning of course.

Thank you A.F.F.! http://img108.exs.cx/img108/5527/i1lsmile.gif

[N.O.T]

what time is next stage?

tommorow....

[kleisj]

Okk no point for being sad that Marcus is down to Loeb again. The French guy has his lucky star! Everything goes his way in rallying!
Even when bad luck stroke him last braking his hand still got the title !
He got into the C4 and from day 1 is faster than the Xsara and still bloody reliable! The team has created such a positive dynamic letting him focus on his driving. And ofcourse he is rocket fast, making the combination unbeatable. And the times he is not as fast as Gron something is going to happen to the Fin! Not to mention the Solberg chapter! Subaru gave him a title and then made him a contract not to dream for another! http://digilander.libero.it/le.faccine/faccinea/cartelli/statici/1220.gif
Aaaaaaaa and after the 3rd stage I was hoping that we would watch something different this weekend! http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/konfus/c010.gif

At least Acropolis approaching! Gron fans we are going to steel Loeb's carhttp://www.eshock.es/forum/style_emoticons/default/diablotin.gif

[René]

About Jari-Matti crash !


Citation :
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Jari-Matti Latvala has retired from the Rally d'Italia Sardegna 2007 after going off the road on SS6. Reports indicated that he was taking a fast right hander when a male spectator distracted Latvala with shouting and waving of his balls. "He was just there, with his pants around his legs, waving his diddlies around like crazy...I just lost concentration and missed the turn." The fan was identified as a "FordTeamRS", and was unavailable for comment.

[ste898]

Another rally another parade..........started off good but same old crap again (time to switch off again)

[Mauri A]

About Jari-Matti crash !


Citation :
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Jari-Matti Latvala has retired from the Rally d'Italia Sardegna 2007 after going off the road on SS6. Reports indicated that he was taking a fast right hander when a male spectator distracted Latvala with shouting and waving of his balls. "He was just there, with his pants around his legs, waving his diddlies around like crazy...I just lost concentration and missed the turn." The fan was identified as a "FordTeamRS", and was unavailable for comment.
Too funny to be true!

[Woodeye]

About Jari-Matti crash !


Citation :
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Jari-Matti Latvala has retired from the Rally d'Italia Sardegna 2007 after going off the road on SS6. Reports indicated that he was taking a fast right hander when a male spectator distracted Latvala with shouting and waving of his balls. "He was just there, with his pants around his legs, waving his diddlies around like crazy...I just lost concentration and missed the turn." The fan was identified as a "FordTeamRS", and was unavailable for comment.

This cannot be true, can't it?

..and btw, I could understand distraction because of some female spectator, but a man..?! At the same situation I would just push the pedal even harder to get the h**l out of there..

[René]

:laugh:

at same time it's great it was not a Citroën fan because the 3 th mondial war will be started ! :laugh:

[cut the b.s.]

Another rally another parade..........started off good but same old crap again (time to switch off again)

please do ;-)

[Addicted]

Is there any pics from leg1 yet?

[Micke_VOC]

Is there any pics from leg1 yet?

http://www.rally-live.com/wrc/en/photos/2007/index_sardaigne_leg1_01.shtml

There u have pics from today.

[ZequeArgentina]

Is there any pics from leg1 yet?
Do you want just leg1photos, or specifically of the JM Latvala and spectator incident?

[tmx]

About Jari-Matti crash !


Citation :
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Jari-Matti Latvala has retired from the Rally d'Italia Sardegna 2007 after going off the road on SS6. Reports indicated that he was taking a fast right hander when a male spectator distracted Latvala with shouting and waving of his balls. "He was just there, with his pants around his legs, waving his diddlies around like crazy...I just lost concentration and missed the turn." The fan was identified as a "FordTeamRS", and was unavailable for comment.

What a shame. Although I must say his outright speed is very good, hopefully he'll drive consistent next time and gets a podium.

[A.F.F.]

Latvala's accident was just showed in MTV3. He took the left tighter than in the first run and simply found a stone he had not marked in notes nor did he see it before it was too late.

No bare ass fans distracting him, just a stone that broke the streering.

[jonas_mcrae]

some pics here too
http://www.ewrc-media.com/images/fotky.php?co=219&a=pl

[René]

Sardegna Friday leg video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MI7NQBJ8w8

[GigiGalliNo1]

Arggg... not good for Latvala!! Silly fan :p :D

[animrallye]

Other pics : http://www.rallyitaliasardegna.com/2007/gallery/03/index.html

[Leon]

Sardegna Friday leg video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MI7NQBJ8w8

thanks for the video.

why it cuts on Latvala?

So Hanninen also had an off (small crash into some trees)

[A.F.F.]

Arggg... not good for Latvala!! Silly fan :p :D

One more time. There was no fan.

In the first loop of the day, Latvala took one left corner too wide in SS Terranova. When he drove it the second time, he tried to take it more tight and hit his front left wheel in stone which broke track arm or something. Long story short, he couldn't continue with the car.

Seriously, I'm scared of this forum. Does all the **** go through here and people believe without questioning ????

I bet some folks still believe there really was a bear in Japan putting rocks on Petter's way :rolleyes:

[Mauri A]

One more time. There was no fan.

In the first loop of the day, Latvala took one left corner too wide in SS Terranova. When he drove it the second time, he tried to take it more tight and hit his front left wheel in stone which broke track arm or something. Long story short, he couldn't continue with the car.

Seriously, I'm scared of this forum. Does all the **** go through here and people believe without questioning ????

I bet some folks still believe there really was a bear in Japan putting rocks on Petter's way :rolleyes:
Anyway, the story was amusing!

[A.F.F.]

Well... I had a ****ty morning. A friend of mine borrowed me a car and some jackass stole a stereo out of it last night. Guess who's paying ??

[animrallye]

Atkinson and Latvala are in SS7.

Sorry for you A.F.F. Perkele :dozey:

[A.F.F.]

Cheers animrallye.

Does anybody else see splits ? 'cause I don't.

[harriswrc]

Splits here
http://www.nuclear.pri.ee/rally/index.php?by=fastest&stage=7&rally=Italy

[A.F.F.]

Brilliant harriswrc :)

[jonkka]

Well... I had a ****ty morning. A friend of mine borrowed me a car and some jackass stole a stereo out of it last night. Guess who's paying ??

Insurance company?

[Livewireshock]

Well... I had a ****ty morning. A friend of mine borrowed me a car and some jackass stole a stereo out of it last night. Guess who's paying ??

Maybe you can borrow a stereo from someone else????

[A.F.F.]

Insurance company?


Mercedes-Benz 300D model -84. No osakasko. My treat.

Classic case, stereos more expensive than car itself.

[jonkka]

Mercedes-Benz 300D model -84. No osakasko. My treat.

Classic case, stereos more expensive than car itself.

It would be impolite to laugh so I promise I will not. Honest. :eek:

[A.F.F.]

It would be impolite to laugh so I promise I will not. Honest. :eek:

By all means laugh. I sold my car just to get a new one next thursday and I only accepted to borrow this piece of **** because I felt too lazy to use public transportation. So, you live you learn. On the bright side, it should be safe to use because there is nothing more to steal :mark:

[A.F.F.]

Back to Sardinia, Stohl made the fastest time so far.

[Brother John]

No Wilson faster then Stohl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good morning all!

[jonkka]

What will Henning do?

[N.O.T]

Loeb faster than Gronholm on 1st Split....

[jonkka]

No Wilson faster then Stohl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

? In which results ? :eek:

[Brother John]

? In which results ? :eek:

OVERALL CLASSIFICATION :D

[A.F.F.]

No plits for Henning so we shall see by the end of the stage. The podium order is already in order not very likely to be changed so tension comes from position 4-8.

[N.O.T]

Srodo is on the move to catch Henning....the gap is still substantial though

[N.O.T]

Loeb wins the stage...2 seconds faster than Gronholm

[A.F.F.]

And Loeb gives no chance to Grönholm.

[A.F.F.]

I hate to admit but this really isn't too exciting :(

[jonkka]

No, not any longer. It was good until SS5 yesterday. Very good.

[Simmi]

Matt Wilson is on for a point when Petter's car forces him to overdrive and retire! What could be more exciting.....ok its boring!

[Peugeot206WRC]

Whats wrong with the splits on SS7?
Aava wins a 22 km stage 10 sec faster then Loeb, cant be true.

[kleisj]

SS 8 on the way now. But probably will be boring....!

http://img164.exs.cx/img164/7827/offtopic8mg.gif
Anyone knows something about virtual spectator concerning WRC?

[jonkka]

Why?

[kleisj]

If it is possible to register and watch in real time?

[jonkka]

I don't know but I do not think so. Anyone with WRC+ can answer if there is such option but I think telemetry data VS needs is downloaded from cars only after the stage, not in real-time.

[MHjerpe]

Would be nice to be able to se the live GPS-circles the crews can...

[GigiGalliNo1]

with VS, theres nothing LIVE but they do do reviews from previous rallies comparing two cars but only for a few secs like between 15-30seconds... last time i checked. (a few months back)

During the Jordan rally, the Jordanians organized with Google Earth, like I posted a thread earlier about GPS, each car was able to be tracked in LIVE time, with the stages marked, their speeds and location updated every 30 secs! It was great.

[kleisj]

Ok, cause I thought that the concept was to register and pay so you can watch in real time. If not , no value for it.

[jonkka]

Sordo pulling away from Petter, as is Seb from Marcus

[jonkka]

Where is MacHale? Also, Mads seems to have stopped.

[scooby girl]

MacHale is 10th overall

[jonkka]

Not in BFG after SS8

[GigiGalliNo1]

Ok, cause I thought that the concept was to register and pay so you can watch in real time. If not , no value for it.

Nope just live splits, radio and live video..

[scooby girl]

After stage7 on BFG he is

[JCarlosPP]

so annoying

[jonkka]

So MacHale is out...

[jonkka]

Latvala only ten secs behind Villagra now, on course to 11th o/a. From there it's three minutes to Hanninen.

[scooby girl]

It looks like MacHale has retired on stage 8.

[Finni]

Seems that this time both Citroens are destroying their opposition.

[N.O.T]

Loeb a lot faster on split 1 than the ompetition.....GAME OVER.

[N.O.T]

no second split for hirvonen.

[Finni]

No split for Mikko. Bit worrying..

[N.O.T]

Hirvonen ok...fastest on split 3

[jonkka]

Mikko trails Marcus by 9,8secs now?!?

[Addicted]

Does anyone know what happened to PG Anderson and Kalle Pinomäki?

[A.F.F.]

It'll be intersting to see if, and I mean if, Mikko rushes over Marcus. What shall Wilson say ?? Go for it or take it easy ??

[Wim_Impreza]

No way Jani, that wil not happen. It is again a very boring rally.

[Waldrons11]

It'll be intersting to see if, and I mean if, Mikko rushes over Marcus. What shall Wilson say ?? Go for it or take it easy ??

He may not have to worry about it after this service..

[WRC2006]

It'll be intersting to see if, and I mean if, Mikko rushes over Marcus. What shall Wilson say ?? Go for it or take it easy ??

Time for Team's order now. I hate this but that is how things are.

Mikko is for the Manufact. and Gronholm for Driver's title. Simple as that. The mission is 3 Focus on podium as usual.

Boring with the red car.

[WRC2006]

Now the rule is like that at least 2 or 3 Focus in top 5?!

Henning will suprise me if he stay on the same pace?!

[A.F.F.]

If Grönholm is for drivers title, how com Mikko got to win Norway ?

[Wim_Impreza]

The mission is 3 Focus on podium as usual.

3 Focus on podium? Loeb will again take the victory...

[WRC2006]

3 Focus on podium? Loeb will again take the victory...

Sorry man, I mean 3 Focus in Top 5!!!

[Simmi]

In terms of next year I think it would be in Ford's best interests to let Mikko get on with it. If he can overtake Marcus then let him. The more he does it the more confident he will become. In my opinion Loeb is uncatchable for Gronholm this season so I do see why Malcolm will again want the manufacturers title.

[Wim_Impreza]

Sorry man, I mean 3 Focus in Top 5!!!

I will sign for 3 Focus on podium and Loeb out. ;) Unfortunately it will not happen.

[WRC2006]

If Grönholm is for drivers title, how com Mikko got to win Norway ?

The first day is open for everyone to take the lead.

The second day after the morning stages, it is time to review how things are going on and give orders for what to do in the next afternoon stages.

The 3rd day (Sunday) already we know the position at leat in top 8.

The WRC is sport in the first day and the following days it is business.

[GigiGalliNo1]

I will sign for 3 Focus on podium and Loeb out. ;) Unfortunately it will not happen.

You never know! :D

[WRC2006]

In terms of next year I think it would be in Ford's best interests to let Mikko get on with it. If he can overtake Marcus then let him. The more he does it the more confident he will become. In my opinion Loeb is uncatchable for Gronholm this season so I do see why Malcolm will again want the manufacturers title.

Yeah, Malcom is very intelligent he knows what his team is capable.

So better to capitalise on manufacturer's championship than on Driver's championship.

Mikko can't match the pace of Loeb, and I am scared if Marcus retire at the end of this year, next year it will be Loeb, Loeb,..... winning all the stages!!!! Boring!!!!

[WRC2006]

I will sign for 3 Focus on podium and Loeb out. ;) Unfortunately it will not happen.

Yeah you are right, but I am sure this lucky will last one day.

Maybe not soon, but time will come.....

[GigiGalliNo1]

Mikko can't match the pace of Loeb, and I am scared if Marcus retire at the end of this year, next year it will be Loeb, Loeb,..... winning all the stages!!!! Boring!!!!

Ford will take out manu's this year, Marcus will retire, and some pain and agony with Loeb mostly winning next year but a few surprise wins by others and harder comp to Loeb shall be next season!

[MHjerpe]

The first day is open for everyone to take the lead.

The second day after the morning stages, it is time to review how things are going on and give orders for what to do in the next afternoon stages.

The 3rd day (Sunday) already we know the position at leat in top 8.

The WRC is sport in the first day and the following days it is business.

Maybe time to award points for each day... so each rally becames 3 rallys.. :)

[WRC2006]

Maybe time to award points for each day... so each rally becames 3 rallys.. :)

Haaaaaa!!!! I like this man!!!!!!

[WRC2006]

Ford will take out manu's this year, Marcus will retire, and some pain and agony with Loeb mostly winning next year but a few surprise wins by others and harder comp to Loeb shall be next season!

Yeah I hope that the Pirelli tires will not suit him and for that the youngest will take control of the rally.

[WRC2006]

If Grönholm is for drivers title, how com Mikko got to win Norway ?

Today in SS9 Marcus had a puncture, that why Mikko managed to outperform him and become 2nd in that stage taking some seconds from Marcus.

[Mauri A]

Yeah you are right, but I am sure this lucky will last one day.

Maybe not soon, but time will come.....
I do not want bad luck to anybody, but my wish is that Ford can give a competitive car to Marcus, Mikko and J-M + others. Hope it will happen in 1000 Lakes already!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Yeah I hope that the Pirelli tires will not suit him and for that the youngest will take control of the rally.

My thoughts exactly!

Bu bu bu bu bu but!!!!!......

I am thinking this...... cannot Loeb's car continue to have BFG's?

Like Galli had Pirelli's this/last year.... and the official tyres are BFG.... how is this so?


Maybe time to award points for each day... so each rally becames 3 rallys.. :)

I don't like the idea of that because I see the Australian Rally Champs have this, only a two day rally split up into heats.... at the end of each day the leaderboard is then split into a top 10 with points and then they tally the points... to me it makes no sence point wise so I'm not going to agree with you there! Sorry :(

[N.O.T]

I do not want bad luck to anybody, but my wish is that Ford can give a competitive car to Marcus, Mikko and J-M + others. Hope it will happen in 1000 Lakes already!

I wish that ford uses competitive drivers and not has beens and wannabes anymore.....

[Mauri A]

I wish that ford uses competitive drivers and not has beens and wannabes anymore.....
Sorry for you, I didn´t get provoked.

[A.F.F.]

I wish that Dapapopoulos would name the decent drivers, better than Marcus and Mikko. But of course he can't. :)

[Woodeye]

I wish that ford uses competitive drivers and not has beens and wannabes anymore.....

I heard that Loeb is looking for someone to clean his shoes. I'm sure that you would make great work with your tongue.

[Mauri A]

Boys, boys, calma, calma! N.O.T. as usual, nothing to worry about.

[A.F.F.]

I heard that Loeb is looking for someone to clean his shoes. I'm sure that you would make great work with your tongue.

Better yet, to wipe his ass.


Did I just say that out loud, ooops ?? :angel:

[N.O.T]

hmmm why you get so upset when i blame the perfomance of the ford team to the drivers but when you blame the car everything is ok ???

[Mauri A]

Better yet, to wipe his ass.


Did I just say that out loud, ooops ?? :angel:
Better to keep one´s tongue inside one´s mouth.

[A.F.F.]

You my friend had a particular favourite driver. You remember? You didn't take word against him. You remember ?? I do.

Now that he is not around anymore, you have every right to call drivers as tomato cans or openers, hasbeens or wannabes ??

See the conflict ??

It's not upsetting, it's just ridicilous.

[noel157]

I wish that ford uses competitive drivers and not has beens and wannabes anymore.....


To some extent I agree with this. There is nobody (at least in the right car) that can keep up with Loeb. He simply is the fastest driver and has the right car. Bosse doesn't seem to have as much motivation these days as he used to have. Hirvonen is a superb driver but at present no where near Loeb's pace. Who can challenge Loeb? Nobody, not this year anyway.

[CABAIO E'LONA]

My favorite driver is.... Dedo Daddovieri....

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2505/wrcqu3.jpg

[jonkka]

ah, "Dedo" de Domicis

[ste898]

I would'nt even waste my ****e on Loeb!!!!!!

Would'nt it be great if Loeb could have a mecanical problem or a driver error ........ANYTHING!!!!!!

[jonkka]

Hmmm, what's that strange smell? :eek:

[Jaanus]

Grönholm will probably be punished because he lost the spare wheel in stage number 8 and it is against the rules to come to service without the spare wheel. He might even be excluded.
The stewards will meet 20.45 Finnish time, 19.45 Central European Time.

[jonkka]

Ford's spare wheel location wouldn't be such an ingenious solution should that happen. And if it won't happen now, it might sooner or later, it's a vulnerable position of a sorts to have a spare wheel in.

[Mauri A]

Hmmm, what's that strange smell? :eek:

Like Kyösti Hämäläinen shouted to Timo Putkonen, his co-driver when Kyösti was driving for the first time RS 1600 in a Finnish Championship Rally. First stage, after a couple of heavy braking: Timoooo, haisoo lämpymältääää!!!!

Sorry. impossible to translate, but Kyösti wasn´t aware of the smell which came from the brakes. Anyway, they won the event.

[jonkka]

Wilson off? :eek:

[jonkka]

Kyosti and co-driver are a new concept to me.

BTW: I am in a need of a portrait photo of mr Hamalainen.

[jonkka]

Petter gaining on Sordo? Hmmm...

[Rally_Rocks]

Grönholm will probably be punished because he lost the spare wheel in stage number 8 and it is against the rules to come to service without the spare wheel. He might even be excluded.
The stewards will meet 20.45 Finnish time, 19.45 Central European Time.

I am just astonished that his keeps happening.

Raies lost his spare wheel on the super special in Mexico, and Wilson lost his towards the end of a stage in NZ.

I think there is a safety issue here. The incident with Raies in Mexico could easily have been very nasty indeed.

Clearly the design of the spare wheel housing is flawed. How long will it be til the stewards tell Ford to sort it out?

[jonkka]

I don't think stewards have any jurisdiction over technical design matters like this, if it's been homologated it's FIA's issue.

[Rally_Rocks]

Are safety issues not the concern of stewards?

I'd again be surprised if they weren't!

[KKS]

+16.4 to Hennig and 2 SS, let's see

[Addicted]

This year is really getting hard for Grönholm

[A.F.F.]

Grönholm will probably be punished because he lost the spare wheel in stage number 8 and it is against the rules to come to service without the spare wheel. He might even be excluded.
The stewards will meet 20.45 Finnish time, 19.45 Central European Time.


Mr. Murphy smashs Marcus again. Exclusion is all that he needs now.

[Brother John]

The F.I.A. realy want Sordo in the points, or what?
If It is not boooooring anough they find a way to make It booooooooring!

[CABAIO E'LONA]

Wilson is off

[pentti]

I am just astonished that his keeps happening.

Raies lost his spare wheel on the super special in Mexico, and Wilson lost his towards the end of a stage in NZ.

I think there is a safety issue here. The incident with Raies in Mexico could easily have been very nasty indeed.

Clearly the design of the spare wheel housing is flawed. How long will it be til the stewards tell Ford to sort it out?It's like their stupid spare gear/hand brake lever. It takes while before they understand that it is no good to try be too clever. Besides having spare wheel in very back is not clever either.

[jonkka]

Dont-eat-potatoes :eek:

[ste898]

Once again the FIA and Citroen will work hand in hand.............disgraceful!!!!!!!!!

[Brother John]

You can see here on the forum very well how boooring WRC are......at the moment!

[Addicted]

Once again the FIA and Citroen will work hand in hand.............disgraceful!!!!!!!!!

How is it Citroen`s fault when Ford is breaking or atleast bending rules? Was it Max Mosley or Guy Frequelin who dropped that sparewheel?

[A.F.F.]

Once again the FIA and Citroen will work hand in hand.............disgraceful!!!!!!!!!


As much things seem to work in Citroen's benefit, I'm afraid you're alone with your conspiracy theory Steven.

[CABAIO E'LONA]

scratch for Loeb

[Corny]

Funny: I got a mail from WRC.com with the subject: All the action from Sardinia..
Which action do they mean?

[Brother John]

How is it Citroen`s fault when Ford is breaking or atleast bending rules? Was it Max Mosley or Guy Frequelin who dropped that sparewheel?

Citroën. The French MAFIA do yoy mean? :D

[jonkka]

Seems that Stobart Ford will again outscore Subaru.

[Brother John]

Someone noted that SS12 is already started now?......

[jonkka]

Yes, Brother

[jonkka]

Henning?

[KKS]

Henning off?

[Mauri A]

I would not be surprised if tonight after his exclusion from the rally Marcus says "That´s it, end of my career."

[KKS]

Again Citroen or FIA will work hand in hand? ha-ha

[jonkka]

Atko got 90sec penalty and is 45 secs behind Villagra, not 45 secs in front.

[SubaruNorway]

What happend to Henning? lost 4th to Sordo

[jonkka]

Henning drops to 5th

[Brother John]

Atko got 90sec penalty and is 45 secs behind Villagra, not 45 secs in front.

Was Atko not a young superstar according to many ? ;)

[N.O.T]

henning ok

[N.O.T]

Sordo ahead of henning now......

[SubaruNorway]

No kiding

[N.O.T]

No kiding

yes its true...10 seconds ahead.

[klm-607]

I would not be surprised if tonight after his exclusion from the rally Marcus says "That´s it, end of my career."

DAMN, that really sucks for him. I can't believe that Loeb is the only one who has good luck. First Petter's fall, now Marcus. I think maybe Loeb really did make that deal w/Satan... as did the Citroen Team bosses. WRC is really a one hores show now. Getting very old & lame. Someone hit Loeb's car w/an RPG!! LOL!!! Maybe they should run a survival of the luckiest Rally...WRC Bagdad!! Dodge the IEDs & RPG shots, & you win! LOL!!! Oh yeah... that'll probably happen when they go to Jordan in a year or so.

[Brother John]

1S. LOEB3:12:45.6 :confused:
2M. GRÖNHOLM+36.5 :(
3M. HIRVONEN+1:30.2 ?
4D. SORDO+2:22.4 :eek:
5H. SOLBERG+2:32.7 !
6P. SOLBERG+3:02.6 :p :
7T. GARDEMEISTER+5:21.5 !
8M. STOHL+5:44.8 :o
9J. HANNINEN+9:43.3 ?
10J. LATVALA+12:15.8 ....................
11F. Villagra+15:21.412C. ATKINSON+16:06.4 uuuuuuug!
13M. WILSON+22:44.7 Hahahahahaha!

[Mauri A]

DAMN, that really sucks for him. I can't believe that Loeb is the only one who has good luck. First Petter's fall, now Marcus. I think maybe Loeb really did make that deal w/Satan... as did the Citroen Team bosses. WRC is really a one hores show now. Getting very old & lame. Someone hit Loeb's car w/an RPG!! LOL!!! Maybe they should run a survival of the luckiest Rally...WRC Bagdad!! Dodge the IEDs & RPG shots, & you win! LOL!!! Oh yeah... that'll probably happen when they go to Jordan in a year or so.
Calm down, please!

[Fischer]

DAMN, that really sucks for him. I can't believe that Loeb is the only one who has good luck. First Petter's fall, now Marcus. I think maybe Loeb really did make that deal w/Satan... as did the Citroen Team bosses. WRC is really a one hores show now. Getting very old & lame. Someone hit Loeb's car w/an RPG!! LOL!!! Maybe they should run a survival of the luckiest Rally...WRC Bagdad!! Dodge the IEDs & RPG shots, & you win! LOL!!! Oh yeah... that'll probably happen when they go to Jordan in a year or so.

Please, take your pills and go watch Nascar if you think the WRC is very 'lame'.

[N.O.T]

hmmm 65 kms remaining and 36 seconds between the two.....i think that its impossible for Gronholm to catch Loeb...but also Loeb cannot cruise...he must drive at some pace...

[Mauri A]

hmmm 65 kms remaining and 36 seconds between the two.....i think that its impossible for Gronholm to catch Loeb...but also Loeb cannot cruise...he must drive at some pace...
Who cares. Grönholm will be excluded anyway.

[A.F.F.]

One reason for the lack of action this year is because Marcus and timo are so strongly sticking on their strategy. They try to catch every point possible which basicly means they ease off and don't risk 8 points for trying to get full 10. Previous years Marcus should have done so but he didn't.

Then again..

Marcus couldn't catch Loeb even if he tried to push 110 % to the finish.

Molempi parempi.

[Koz]

I just watched Day1 on tv. Marcus looks much grim-er than usual. :(
The WRC is getting worse and worse everyday.
For some reason I think that in 2004 if Marcus was using his head and the whale was ok, he would have been better than Loeb. Now it just seems hopeless.
Next year, it will be worse. No Marcus. Loeb wins 14 rallies, Mikko and Petter win one each is the best we can hope for; unless by some merical Marcus can be campion this year, and shatter Loeb's confidence. Otherwise we will be stuck with Loeb for another 5 years... Till WRC is bankrupt.

[Mauri A]

What a coincidence, Seppo Harjanne for the first time as a Steward in a WRC rally and he has to exclude Bosse!

[SubaruNorway]

Seppo Harjanne was he a codriver ore something before