[WRC] Rallye Monte Carlo 2022

[dimviii]

its over for Neuville?

[EstWRC]

its all going Toyotas way at the moment

[Rally Hokkaido]

Toyota makes it clear here.

Yes, the opposition is reduced to only Loeb and Breen with healthy cars heading into the trickiest stage of the rally.

[dimviii]

from French forum


I just watched myself the first 5 stages of Loeb / Galmiche.

It's still phew the times they do given the quality of the announcement of the notes! We feel that it is improving from special to special but it is regularly lost. There are moments of 20/30s without notes at 150km/h, moments when she is too slow and announces the turns they are in, suddenly he takes her back, and she starts to accelerate, but suddenly she goes too fast and it is he who gets lost!



Not easy for them!

[TypeR]

Ogier and Loeb even after SS10.. That's awesome!

Loeb kept the pace

[dimviii]

Loeb Ogier same time overall

[Rally Hokkaido]

Lefbre takes a wheel off! So much drama on this stage!

[becher]

Lefbre takes a wheel off! So much drama on this stage!
Allways the same with him.

[dimviii]

so Maestro again with wrong tyre choice as last time at Monte.

[TypeR]

so Maestro again with wrong tyre choice as last time at Monte.

let's see after next stage. he didn't have enough softs left after yesterday I guess

[Rally Hokkaido]

so Maestro again with wrong tyre choice as last time at Monte.

Wrong for this stage, but likely better than Ogier for the next snow/icy stage.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Solberg is moving now!!

[TypeR]

Solberg moving again! Finnish fans got there very fast :D

[dimviii]

Lets see how much he will gain,and compare with how much he lost at first 2 stages.
Loeb admited already from previous stage that wasnt right the super soft

[dimviii]

Lefebvre

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2022/post-1668-0-07634100-1642845256.jpg

[seb_sh]

from French forum


I just watched myself the first 5 stages of Loeb / Galmiche.

It's still phew the times they do given the quality of the announcement of the notes! We feel that it is improving from special to special but it is regularly lost. There are moments of 20/30s without notes at 150km/h, moments when she is too slow and announces the turns they are in, suddenly he takes her back, and she starts to accelerate, but suddenly she goes too fast and it is he who gets lost!



Not easy for them!

That makes yesterday's performance even more impressive!

[er88]

Lets see how much he will gain,and compare with how much he lost at first 2 stages.
Loeb admited already from previous stage that wasnt right the super softI dont think he could've taken more softs due to yesterdays tyre choices. He has to use those Super softs

[dimviii]

second stage in row with toyota 1-2-3

[mknight]

No, they can continue tomorrow even if out of top-50

Are you sure? They (WRC)cars had to be in top 50? last 4 years+

[Essaj]

Are you sure? They (WRC)cars had to be in top 50? last 4 years+

I'm sure I heard it somewhere, but that source could be wrong

[Sulland]

What is the tyre allotment to each car in different classes per rally this year?

[TypeR]

I'm sure I heard it somewhere, but that source could be wrong

12.11 Sections 7, 8 and 9
Only the 50 first competitors classified at the end of the section 6 will be authorized to take the start of sections 7, 8 and 9, on Sunday, 23rd January 2022, at TC 13D.

[KKS]

I'm sure I heard it somewhere, but that source could be wrong
this is was due Service Park movement to Monaco, but now this rule seems useless

[Rallyper]

12.11 Sections 7, 8 and 9
Only the 50 first competitors classified at the end of the section 6 will be authorized to take the start of sections 7, 8 and 9, on Sunday, 23rd January 2022, at TC 13D.

It´s ridicoulus. Spending billions of money not to be allowed to compete all rally...

[denkimi]

BTW many people were expecting Loix to perform well...he's been 10th on a stage in RC2 at best. Any comments?
He hasn't been able to keep up with the best belgian drivers for some years now, so don't expect him to be able to challenge the worlds best.

[Medved]

12.11 Sections 7, 8 and 9
Only the 50 first competitors classified at the end of the section 6 will be authorized to take the start of sections 7, 8 and 9, on Sunday, 23rd January 2022, at TC 13D.

"This number of 50 will be increased by the number of any P1 driver/s classified behind 50th after section 6 and
allowed to start section 7. "

Bulletin No.3, site 3 - https://storage.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/sportity-storage/o/9fca0af8-add0-4d5c-89d7-1b01e4057aee%2F34ca2432-90d0-4cc6-a41e-901baf57fce1_BULLETIN%20No.3%20-%2012%2001%202022.pdf?generation=1642004019045028&alt=media

[TypeR]

"This number of 50 will be increased by the number of any P1 driver/s classified behind 50th after section 6 and
allowed to start section 7. "

Bulletin No.3, site 3

Okay, thanks! didn't know to read bulletins.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Gutted for Gus after all his great work up to now.

[Rallyper]

This is surface Rovanpera was made for... :)

[TypeR]

Tänak and Neuville won't even get up the icy hill.. will be fun

[EstWRC]

Good luck Neuville and Tänak

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Finally we have a proper Monte.

[meh]

Oh well, this stage will be interesting. Can we see any Hyundai at the stage end at all? :)

[dimviii]

Loebs daughter
https://twitter.com/SebastienLoeb/status/1484614992871792641

[Sulland]

The 2WDs will have a challenge up the hill on ss11!

[Rallyper]

Oliver doing RX now.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

4WD alone doing the job.

[jonkka]

Oh well, this stage will be interesting. Can we see any Hyundai at the stage end at all? :)

At least Tanak starts faster than Rovanpera...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak nearly off and hit a bank !

[jonkka]

Right, started faster but... :)

[Sulland]

Close ravine for Tanak

[TypeR]

could have gone worse.. down the ditch

+42 next split for Tänak

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Elfyn giving it everything !

[EstWRC]

Utter fail

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Woah Ogier !

[Rallyper]

Tanak problems... windscreen covered with oil or water... And puncture.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evan's noooo

[TypeR]

Fluids out on windshield for Tänak?

omg, Ogier!

[Rallyper]

Evans!! Off.

[meh]

Tanak problems... windscreen covered with oil or water... And puncture.

... and no spares. Game over probably.

[EstWRC]

... and no spares. Game over probably.

There’s a tyre zone now

[NoFear85]

Second puncture for Tanak, after SS11 is TFZ, but he must arrive with 4 rotating wheel

[Sulland]

Had Evans been in Finland, the fans had had him back on the road in 10,5 seconds!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fans could get them back surely.

[TypeR]

fans just don't want to get Evans out..

[meh]

Had Evans been in Finland, the fans had had him back on the road in 10,5 seconds!

I was thinking the same. There could be rope attached to the car before it stops and instead of clapping like an idiot for mistake there could be help to get a competitor to be in the game.

[Tauri_J]

How far is the remote tyres zone?

[satnav]

fans just don't want to get Evans out..

The security guys don't let fans help in Monte

[jonkka]

The security guys don't let fans help in Monte

True or not but that didn't stop fans from getting Oliver back to road.

[EstWRC]

Tänak still stopped after finish

[denkimi]

How far is the remote tyres zone?
Doesn't matter. Even if it's only 500m of public road, he must have 4 inflated rotating wheels on the car.

[TypeR]

The security guys don't let fans help in Monte

If it was Loeb or Ogier.. it would have been out already, more than sure.

Liason to TFZ around 25-30km?

[NoFear85]

about 28km from finish od ss11 to tfz

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen now 3rd, highest of the full-season drivers.

[René]

Stage red flagged after Loeb

[Sulland]

Did they red flag, cancel or just stopped people from starting the stage, then rescue Evan and start again?

[seb_sh]

Breen now 3rd, highest of the full-season drivers.

Seems his carefull aproach to a rally he hasn't done in a while is paying off. Sweden he should know a bit better.

[becher]

Woah Ogier !

Can't watch, what was going on with him?

[denkimi]

How far is the remote tyres zone?
So with ogier and loeb not doing the full championship, this could actually be a good result for neuville and rovanpera.

[dimviii]

Οgier hot moment

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJs3YlSXIAooJiP?format=jpg&name=small

[Googol]

Fans could get them back surely.

Probably quite dangerous, if car starts falling backwards when people are pushing. So if no one has a rope, I don't think so.

[René]

Did they red flag, cancel or just stopped people from starting the stage, then rescue Evan and start again?

Neutralized the time to get out evans, and then restart. evans' car is likely to fall onto the road below

[René]

They tried to take the car out with the spectators but there is too much slope and the car slides back dangerously. The stewards asked for a neutralisation of the stage while the car was removed

[dimviii]

Evans' car is already on the road.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJs8VFYXsAAZp1m?format=png&name=small

[dimviii]

Tanak
https://twitter.com/paddocknews/status/1484850004682543114

[René]

That was the situation

[Rallyper]

Fans could get them back surely.

No way. There´s a huge steep slope just about one meter behind him

[Oliverk]

No way. There´s a huge steep slope just about one meter behind him

They already did. 2 posts before you.

[Rallyper]

They already did. 2 posts before you.

Yeah. But I answered a quote two pages back. And fans I´m sure wasn´t even allowed to go near the car. Too dangerous.

[Oliverk]

Are you blind? there is a picture 5 post before you showing spectators getting Evans out.

[EstWRC]

seems its done for Tänak, was moving but standing aside off the road

[Rally Hokkaido]

So Evans given a notional time and will SuperRally. Is that because his car caused the red flag or team's decision (car's condition)?
EDIT
E-wrc has now removed Evans from SS11 results

[Rallyper]

Are you blind? there is a picture 5 post before you showing spectators getting Evans out.

No I´m not blind, man. Read my post. And cool down.

And spectators did tow him up? Are you sure? Can´t be seen on that picture.

[Tauri_J]

https://m.facebook.com/groups/257661263014826/permalink/286613206786298/?m_entstream_source=group&anchor_composer=false

[TypeR]

https://m.facebook.com/groups/257661263014826/permalink/286613206786298/?m_entstream_source=group&anchor_composer=false
Easy

[satnav]

This is not uncommon in Monte when the marshals stop spectators getting a car back on the road, remember the Suninen / Rovanpera scenario from 2019 on SS1.

[EstWRC]

Following front impact on stage 11 of Rallye Monte-Carlo @OttTanak was forced to retire on the road section for the day.

[Sulland]

If the marshalls had used their head planning, this rescue could have been done without destrying the only real Monte stage on snow/ice/asphalt so far. It was a joy to watch.

They had 3 min gaps, and with some planning of ropes and people working with the driver this operation took 30 sec. If they had 1 marshall slowing competitors, and getting people out of the road if it took more than 3 min.
But you need 1 leader able to plan and execute, the rest is easy.

[Morte66]

After two years in the wilderness since Meeke went, not really caring who won any rally, on Thursday I saw Breen chose the number 42 and suddenly I was a Breen fan.

Well, so far so good.

* bites nails for first time in a while *

[seb_sh]

Easy

The thing is they tried without toe rope and the car dropped more now being very close to the edge. Then with the toe rope you have a conga line of spectators around a corner filling the road, then when the car is out you have a car on a 1 lane road going the wrong way. It's one thing to get it out with a neutralised stage and another with cars coming every 3 minutes on live TV.

[Rallyper]

Easy

Ok. I give up. Spectators maybe towed. But it took some time and car was helping.

At first they didn´t succeed. And one person fell down 5-6 meters to the road under...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It wasnt easy...
https://twitter.com/BrunoRallys/status/1484859966657908740?s=20

[René]

If the marshalls had used their head planning, this rescue could have been done without destrying the only real Monte stage on snow/ice/asphalt so far. It was a joy to watch.

They had 3 min gaps, and with some planning of ropes and people working with the driver this operation took 30 sec. If they had 1 marshall slowing competitors, and getting people out of the road if it took more than 3 min.
But you need 1 leader able to plan and execute, the rest is easy.

Definitely not! It would not have been a good idea.

https://twitter.com/fernischumi/status/1484862644934881281?s=20

[Rallyper]

The thing is they tried without toe rope and the car dropped more now being very close to the edge. Then with the toe rope you have a conga line of spectators around a corner filling the road, then when the car is out you have a car on a 1 lane road going the wrong way. It's one thing to get it out with a neutralised stage and another with cars coming every 3 minutes on live TV.

+1

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Solberg fans

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJtETLiXEAAGOh5?format=jpg&name=large

[dimviii]

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2022/post-157-0-30405600-1642853979.jpeg
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2022/post-157-0-91276500-1642853991.jpeg
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2022/post-157-0-33704300-1642854002.jpg

[EstWRC]

no one to blame than himself

would have taken some snow tyres, would have been up to 4th or smth instead retired again and quite possibly 0 points

dont have the speed for PS points

[Danny0405]

Evans again in Monza blockhead mode, let’s hope he will not do not often this season, especially for Toyota.

Seems better for Breen today, happy for him (and above all M-Sport) if he proves me I’m wrong about his potential.
Let’s see if Loeb can reverse the tendency for M-Sport also

In WRC-2, good job so far by Cais for a 1st Monte Carlo: not able to catch Bulacia but steady and consistent and now 3rd overall and 2nd Junior thanks to the issues of the others.

[dimviii]

Oliver off
https://twitter.com/ma_ipp/status/1484858621406101504

[dimviii]

Evans again in Monza blockhead mode, let’s hope he will not do not often this season, especially for Toyota.


Ogier and Loeb are not going for full season.Didnt understand why he was hunting them.
O points.

[Danny0405]

Tanak should be able to come back tomorrow with Super Rally, no? (The top 50 is 30 minutes but, as Tanak finishes SS11, there is only 2 stages remaining so 20 minute-penalty).
Or is there another special rule

[Danny0405]

Ogier and Loeb are not going for full season.Didnt understand why he was hunting them.
O points.

Yep, it is why I said blockhead mode: it is a real threat for Toyota if he cannot be cool head in clutch moments
In 2013, Ogier didn’t take the full risk against Loeb in a similar situation.

[EstWRC]

as i understand rally1 cars can now join tomorrow

[seb_sh]

Evans again in Monza blockhead mode, let’s hope he will not do not often this season, especially for Toyota.

Seems better for Breen today, happy for him (and above all M-Sport) if he proves me I’m wrong about his potential.
Let’s see if Loeb can reverse the tendency for M-Sport also

That makes me think it's a very unpredictable season: If Evans doesn't pull it together all year and Kalle is not consistent, Hyundai boys with questionable car, Breen first full season and Fourmaux maybe sometimes fast? It'll be like MotoGP without Marquez :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

TBF Evans small mistakes always seem to be costly. He doesnt get much luck like Ogier does.

[focus206]

I agree that Evans didn't play the smart game and tried to chase Seb I and Seb II. He could have got more points taking their positions but this wasn't really the rally where to try and do that.
Breen getting better, no mistakes from him. Not very fast, but so far so good.
News on Neuville? Probably 2 more slow stages incoming, maybe he can get away with 6th...

[Danny0405]

TBF Evans small mistakes always seem to be costly. He doesnt get much luck like Ogier does.

Here (like in Monza in 2019), it is not only luck, it is being able to keep quiet.
As I said, in 2013 in a similar situation, Ogier did not take the full risk against Loeb. And Ogier became even better in this «*calculation*» game through his career (to be completely honest, he was also forced to this strategy with the «*road position rules*» + the fact of being in less dominant car, especially 2018).

[dimviii]

Tänak info

The puncture he picked up in SS11 is a very small hole in the sidewall and he's trying to fix it. He’s got some form of gummy solution to stick over the whole and a bicycle hand pump, but it doesn’t look like it’ll go very far.

https://www.wrc.com/?proxy=redaktion/Season-2022-News/WRC/January/Monte-Carlo/Tanak_Punct.png

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJtRDKVWYAA9ZY7?format=jpg&name=medium

[dimviii]

Solberg considering retiring from Monte due to fumes

Problem that Hyundai driver says contributed to off on SS10 has persisted throughout Friday and Saturday

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/solberg-considering-retiring-from-monte-due-to-fumes/

[Rallyper]

Solberg considering retiring from Monte due to fumes

Problem that Hyundai driver says contributed to off on SS10 has persisted throughout Friday and Saturday

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/solberg-considering-retiring-from-monte-due-to-fumes/

Well, maybe wise. If the team doesn´t manage to fix such things, health is more important. Add to that his problems with intercom.

And he should´ve got his experience already...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evan's to continue this afternoon?

[satnav]

An update ;

https://storage.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/sportity-storage/o/9fca0af8-add0-4d5c-89d7-1b01e4057aee%2F93e29a3a-5cdf-46a5-ba96-fc999c0f594c_COC%20NOTIFICATION%20No.4.pdf?generat ion=1642855802592436&alt=media

[satukata]

tyre info?

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJtShLwXEAQtm1i?format=jpg&name=large

[dimviii]

from wrc.com


Tänak has retired

The Estonian was unable to keep his tyre inflated and had to retire before the tyre fitting zone.

[EstWRC]

lol second year in a row same mistake

how stupid

[Rallyper]

from wrc.com


Tänak has retired

The Estonian was unable to keep his tyre inflated and had to retire before the tyre fitting zone.

So no restart for Tanak tomorrow then?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Why only 2 of the stages repeated today ?

[seb_sh]

lol second year in a row same mistake

how stupid

Indeed i like Tanak but i can't understand the decision. It's clear the car is not there this rally and has intermittent issues. Why try risk it like that, instead let others risk and pick up what you can. Seriously. And people then come around and say well Ogier is lucky that's why he won so many titles...

[EstWRC]

So no restart for Tanak tomorrow then?


they changed the rule this year for rally1 as i understand but maybe someone can confirm?

[Essaj]

they changed the rule this year for rally1 as i understand but maybe someone can confirm?

Yes there was a bulletin about it shared here few pages back

[EstWRC]

anyway with their speed i dont see any chance on PS for Ott

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Wonder if M-Sport will consider team orders to swap (full season driver) Breen & Loeb at some point ?

[Rallyper]

Oliver still running.

[TypeR]

Since when is repairing a tyre allowed?
Would have been DSQ anyway.. otherwise crews would have tyre foam or whatever with them.

Don't take 2nd spare, but a bicycle tyre patch kot :lol:
Comedy club.

[Danny0405]

Wonder if M-Sport will consider team orders to swap (full season driver) Breen & Loeb at some point ?

Only makes sense if things are fixed in SS16 (still some way to do). No interest in SS17 because PS points are counting in manufacturer championship.

I would be cautious with that: in Sweden, anyway Breen will start in 1st position if things stay like this. Then, in Croatia, the road position has no real interest; but then, there is a series of gravel rallies and each position earned could be good.
So at this stage of the season, I’m not sure the interest is relevant if you add all the potential impacts.

[Danny0405]

Neuville has not solved his issue, will lost a lot of time again and Evans will catch him probably

[jonkka]

Neuville has not solved his issue, will lost a lot of time again

At this rate, Rovanpera will be 4th despite his lackluster start yesterday.

[satnav]

Neuville big strut trouble now, Evans passed him on the stage

[TypeR]

superb day for Hyundai..

[meh]

Good that Hyundai does not have clear team-leader at the moment, he/she could lose position anyway.

[Danny0405]

At this rate, Rovanpera will be 4th despite his lackluster start yesterday.

Yep, not really impressed by Breen and Rovanpera (especially yesterday) but in the hand, the job is done if they do 3&4 behind the two Sebs in a rally Breen has not done for a while and that Rovanpera doesn’t seem to like
Especially if Evans, Tanak and Neuville are outside top 10

[Rallyper]

Why is Evans charging like that? What does he gain?

[satnav]

Yohan Rossel's time penalty from last night has been removed

[Rally Hokkaido]

Hopefully, Neuville is carrying a spare damper instead of the second spare tyre!

[Rally Hokkaido]

Why is Evans charging like that? What does he gain?

Not sure why. He is guaranteed to start tomorrow due to the new rule. However, does he need to achieve a certain start position to be included in the Power Stage?

EDIT* Duh, of course not. He will likely be first on the road, tomorrow.

[meh]

Best Hyundai is Solberg and lost 28sec on that stage.

[wrchirek]

They should have put Sordo in a 4th car.

[EstWRC]

nothing hasnt changesd with the new year, lol

[wyler]

Since when is repairing a tyre allowed?
Would have been DSQ anyway.. otherwise crews would have tyre foam or whatever with them.

Don't take 2nd spare, but a bicycle tyre patch kot :lol:
Comedy club.

since a lot of time ago. no dsq. they carry some gluish stuff, that can help on road section (as normal car, really) but is clearly not enough, expecially performance wise. it's just an aid.

[Päss1928]

nothing hasnt changesd with the new year, lol

Msport has a decent car now, but other than that, I agree. Ogier could casually take his 9th if he wanted to.

[Danny0405]

Bulacia in trouble
Mikkelsen increases the level to avoid Rossel to come back even with his penalty cancelled

Edit: Rossel was faster in all splits so should have an issue in the end.

[dimviii]

Rossel puncture

[denkimi]

Msport has a decent car now, but other than that, I agree. Ogier could casually take his 9th if he wanted to.
I think both ogier and loeb could get the title here if they would commit to a full season.

Imagine loeb taking his 10th title this year. :lol:

[Danny0405]

Erik Cais so far for a 1st Monte: 10th overall, 3rd in class, 1st in Junior.
Ok, he has more Rally2 experience than Fourmaux in 2019 but he is a big tarmac prospect.
Rather impressive for M-Sport having in his «*group*» two (Cais+Fourmaux) of the biggest tarmac prospects (with Rossel probably).

Let’s hope he will not fuck up everything like in Barum.

Still a pity for Bulacia who has improved here from last year.

[dimviii]

Evans
https://twitter.com/Edhooper94/status/1484846739936976899

[dimviii]

Bulacia

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJtgiziX0AUFUdn?format=jpg&name=large

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJtfSV-XoAA6iAI?format=jpg&name=small

[EstWRC]

I think both ogier and loeb could get the title here if they would commit to a full season.

Imagine loeb taking his 10th title this year. :lol:

Not so sure about that

They both are masters of monte and it shows again but at the moment I wouldn’t definitely say they both would take the title for sure

We haven’t even finished this rally

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Only makes sense if things are fixed in SS16 (still some way to do). No interest in SS17 because PS points are counting in manufacturer championship.

I would be cautious with that: in Sweden, anyway Breen will start in 1st position if things stay like this. Then, in Croatia, the road position has no real interest; but then, there is a series of gravel rallies and each position earned could be good.
So at this stage of the season, I’m not sure the interest is relevant if you add all the potential impacts.

Ogier always took the maximum points for the Ch'ship despite any other factors...

[Danny0405]

Rather impressive for M-Sport having in his «*group*» two (Cais+Fourmaux) of the biggest tarmac prospects (with Rossel probably).

Forgot Lindholm also even if, for him, I would more say he is a good prospect which is also good on tarmac (but true for Rossel also even if the French is more tarmac-centered).

[dimviii]

So who has the right choice for ss 13?
Loeb took 2 with studs,while Ogier 2 snow
Both have and 4 soft slicks

[Morte66]

OK, there probably can't be as much carnage on this run since there are fewer drivers available. Right?

Right?

[dimviii]

Neuville fixing the strut problem
https://twitter.com/DirtFishRally/status/1484889865019875332

[dimviii]

SS13: Live!

Rovanperä is underway in Saint-Geniez / Thoard. There's still plenty of ice in the middle of the stage, so be prepared for more drama...

[Rally Hokkaido]

So who has the right choice for ss 13?
Loeb took 2 with studs, while Ogier 2 snow
Both have and 4 soft slicks
Hard to say. One thing to remember is that their stock of available tyres is getting low (Breen using used ones to save his stock). Normally, they would also be saving for tomorrow's Power Stage, too.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Neuville fixing the strut problem
https://twitter.com/DirtFishRally/status/1484889865019875332

I hope they secured the strut top with more than the cable ties shown!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Taka off now

[Danny0405]

Taka off now

Again a pity
We know this rally profile does not suit but he was doing the job and even taking manufacturer points to Hyundai, still he could take a little point (at least manufacturer against Tanak or Solberg) if he succeeds in coming back to the road

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Very hard to get any car back on the road today.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good job done by Neuville..

[Rallyper]

And there´s no action on french spectators at all... Rope showed up after minutes...

[Danny0405]

Breen seems to lose some time, probably in defensive mode but pay attention not to put again Rovanpera in the game for the podium

Neuville reduced the time lose, should be ok to contain Greensmith if he stays like this for the full stage

[itix]

I remember a few years ago someone here claimed Neuville was not a good mechanic... I'm not sure I agree with that, he has somehow managed to fit a friggin strut that exited the top of the strut tower back under the car and make it survive a stage. That is absolutely amazing in my eyes.

[Danny0405]

Ogier in full attack: -6.4s at first split

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier gambled on softs, no studs.

[Danny0405]

Big time loss again at split 2 for Neuville; still a miracle to limit the lose like this...

[seb_sh]

Now that's something, Ogier no snow tyres, what will Loeb take?

[Danny0405]

Loeb almost in Ogier time at 1st split (0.4s behind), what a battle

[satnav]

Ogier and Loeb both the same tyres , 4 softs

[Danny0405]

Big time lose for Ogier in split 2 (+9s behind Rovanpera), the 4 softs strategy does not seem to work in the middle part with the ice

[jonkka]

Big time lose for Ogier in split 2 (+9s behind Rovanpera), the 4 softs strategy does not seem to work in the middle part with the ice

Not against Rovanpera but Ogier's fight is against Loeb who is on same set of tyres.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville admitting the Hyundai lacking development

[dimviii]

Kalle said that the ideal will be with studs

[Rallyper]

Oliver same time as Breen and faster than Evans...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Smart Ogier switched to match Loeb !

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Big loss for Loeb.

[MentalParadox]

I think the battle for first is pretty much over after this time loss from Loeb.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WRC2 drama wow

[Danny0405]

Big job by Ogier but still think Loeb may have made a mistake in the tyre choices, especially as he had the studs (Rovanpera told it would have been the better choice).
But big guts from the two.
Rossel takes 10s to Mikkelsen in split 2

[dimviii]

Amazing drive from Ogier !!

[seb_sh]

I remember a few years ago someone here claimed Neuville was not a good mechanic... I'm not sure I agree with that, he has somehow managed to fit a friggin strut that exited the top of the strut tower back under the car and make it survive a stage. That is absolutely amazing in my eyes.

to be fair he has had a lot of practice fixing those Hyundais :P

[becher]

I remember a few years ago someone here claimed Neuville was not a good mechanic... I'm not sure I agree with that, he has somehow managed to fit a friggin strut that exited the top of the strut tower back under the car and make it survive a stage. That is absolutely amazing in my eyes.

People throw shit at him no matter what the guy does. When he was the only constistently fast driver in the i20, it was because he had the best car, yet when others failed to match him it was because Neuville developed a shit car, because of course he joined the design office in his spare time to mess with his team mates.

[Rally Hokkaido]

French spectators benefitted from working on Taka's car - got Rossel out of the same ditch quicker!

[Rally Hokkaido]

Why was Katsuta given a notional time and Super Rally mark for this stage? He made it to the finish!?

[Danny0405]

Rovanpera only +0.9s behind Ogier today, way better than yesterday. Finally, not a bad rally even if it should be short for the podium on a regular basis.

[focus206]

Good on Breen and Rovanpera, didn't find early speed but are driving smart and getting better.
Good on Neuville for bringing the car to the end of the day, shame he's in no man's land now and can only improve 6th if others hit trouble.
Great battle between the Sebs, too bad the gap got bigger...

[Moriarty]

Rovanpera only +0.9s behind Ogier today, way better than yesterday. Finally, not a bad rally even if it should be short for the podium on a regular basis.

And Gryazin is 5th overall today

[rp]

Why was Katsuta given a notional time and Super Rally mark for this stage? He made it to the finish!?

It´s better to retire, because he will get only 10 minutes time penalty. He lost over 13 minutes during the stage.

[pantealex]

Why was Katsuta given a notional time and Super Rally mark for this stage? He made it to the finish!?

He informed last TC that he is DNF, lost only 10min because Super Rally, gained 3minutes compared to real time.
(normally you just don't give your timecard to Marshalls and you are DNF, but now in Covid rules procedure is bit different)

[Rallyper]

He informed last TC that he is DNF, lost only 10min because Super Rally, gained 3minutes compared to real time.
(normally you just don't give your timecard to Marshalls and you are DNF, but now in Covid rules procedure is bit different)

Quite sick. But when making rules they don´t consider these extraordinary circumstances. Stage time is stage time I´d say...

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/W40TOOg-als

[EstWRC]

Tänak says the broken radiator was the cause not tyres, there was enough rubber left to get to the tyre zone

[Danny0405]

To be confirmed but it seems Solberg may finally reach the top-50 cut to be authorized to drive tomorrow (he is 49th now so in top-50 even if Bulacia makes Rally2).
Even in a difficult context, it is still some additional experience to take.

[tc10a]

To be confirmed but it seems Solberg may finally reach the top-50 cut to be authorized to drive tomorrow (he is 49th now so in top-50 even if Bulacia makes Rally2).
Even in a difficult context, it is still some additional experience to take.

There is NO need to reach the top-50. EVERY P1 driver will be able to start on Sunday. See Bulletin No. 3

[seb_sh]

There is NO need to reach the top-50. EVERY P1 driver will be able to start on Sunday. See Bulletin No. 3

indeed they said so on wrc live several times as well, all Rally1 cars are permitted to start tomorrow

[Myrvold]

BTW many people were expecting Loix to perform well...he's been 10th on a stage in RC2 at best. Any comments?


yeap,me too was expecting more.

Didn't Loix say yes to driving Monte on the condition that he didn't have to do any testing and "that stuff".
So basically what he's run for the last years are no-testing, just rallies.

[EstWRC]

has Kalle commented what did they change or do?

amazing turnaround from two previous days

[EstWRC]

great vid from passatsdecanto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z7bTda7Yl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9zI5BXbOaI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0lIbDMN2GM&t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pi33y8Ya80

[Morte66]

Here's a question for everyone: should Rovanpera push tomorrow and try to pass Breen?

He's quite a way behind Breen, but not ridiculously far behind.

He was closing this afternoon, but Breen was taking it easy and using old tyres to have fresh tomorrow. I'm sure Breen can speed up.

Speaking of which, if Rovanpera tries all morning he'll probably blow his tyres for the power stage. He might make more points concentrating on the PS than an outside chance of getting from 4th to 3rd.

Personally... I don't think he should in cold logical terms, but I think he will. And I'm looking forward to it. :)

[dimviii]

Kalle must grab the chance now that Neuville,Tanak,Evans will score little to no points.
These chances doesnt appear often.

[EstWRC]

#WRC Following investigation on car #8, we can confirm that unfortunately Ott #Tanak and Martin #Jarveoja are forced to retire from #RallyeMonteCarlo

#HMSGOfficial @OfficialWRC

[TypeR]

Village team.

[Allez Andruet]

Here's a question for everyone: should Rovanpera push tomorrow and try to pass Breen?

Not worth the unnecessary risk, but if he smells blood (à la Sweden 2020 PS vs. Ogier) he for sure will go for it. On the other hand, he's about to score second highest points of the drivers competing full season anyway.

Btw, can any of the French speaking friends here translate what Ogier says to Veillas @ 6.46 on the onboard of SS10?

[pantealex]

Kalle also has to think about Manufacturers points.

I don't think he will attack.

[seb_sh]

Village team.

So they will win in Sweden like the other village team?

[logic]

It is amazing people call these teams village teams when they have done nothing but sit on their sofa and criticize people who you are actually watching.
Sad state of affairs.

[KKS]

Front lights on new Huyndai was mounted into a bumper, so Oliver lost front bumper and has no lights. And must drive with no lights on public roads at the night? I think it banned and Oliver should take a DQ for that?

https://tinyimg.io/i/q0CkINX.JPG

[dupanton]

Didn't Loix say yes to driving Monte on the condition that he didn't have to do any testing and "that stuff".
So basically what he's run for the last years are no-testing, just rallies.

Exactly. He drives this rally with little preparation and 100% for fun. Also new codriver who struggles a bit with the complex notes of Freddy.

They have big smiles already all week long, so all is good :)

[Essaj]

Front lights on new Huyndai was mounted into a bumper, so Oliver lost front bumper and has no lights. And must drive with no lights on public roads at the night? I think it banned and Oliver should take a DQ for that?

https://tinyimg.io/i/q0CkINX.JPG

That's way more dangerous than driving on one rim, so I kinda agree

[AnttiL]

I think rules state that lights and mirrors must be fixed at service…and no service today

[WRCStan]

It's 0.56s/km to shut tomorrow, Kalle had 0.39 on Craig today. Kalle can continue as today but will need Craig to drop time which I don't think will happen.

First and second in Sweden is not worth fighting over.

[WRCStan]

Front lights on new Huyndai was mounted into a bumper, so Oliver lost front bumper and has no lights. And must drive with no lights on public roads at the night? I think it banned and Oliver should take a DQ for that?


I noticed the Pumas and i20s didn't have taillights in EV mode through Monaco on Thursday, I didn't see the Yaris. Found that odd, so this is just bizarre. Oliver needs a break but DQ is not what he deserves.

[TypeR]

Tänak bank touch from outside
https://youtu.be/BE4nIgzsrAw
From 3:30

[steve.mandzij]

has Kalle commented what did they change or do?

amazing turnaround from two previous dayshe looked hopeless on Thursday but his pace today showed just what a mature driver he is already. keeping it on the road when not at ease and pushing comfortable when the setup is right.

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[mknight]

I found the Ogier vs Loeb tactics on last stage really interesting. Highlighting two points that actually overlapped each other here.

- Ogier is "obsessed" with Loeb and beating him. I think a lot of people still remember Mexico 2018 and we get this confirmed everytime they meet and Loeb is competetive.

- Ogier is a master at keeping focus on the important stuff. Here, only thing that mattered was pace vs Loeb. It didn't matter which tirechoice was best what mattered was that Loeb didn't get a chance to do a very different stagetime. That's why Ogier won so many close championships and that's what for example Evans lacked in Monza 2020.

[Crutt]

He could or got to the technical/media zone in daylight. And then gone into service in the dark... Service is closed roads

[dimviii]

I found the Ogier vs Loeb tactics on last stage really interesting. Highlighting two points that actually overlapped each other here.

- Ogier is "obsessed" with Loeb and beating him. I think a lot of people still remember Mexico 2018 and we get this confirmed everytime they meet and Loeb is competetive.

- Ogier is a master at keeping focus on the important stuff. Here, only thing that mattered was pace vs Loeb. It didn't matter which tirechoice was best what mattered was that Loeb didn't get a chance to do a very different stagetime. That's why Ogier won so many close championships and that's what for example Evans lacked in Monza 2020.

you cant have such conclusions when the one is retired and 48 years old,straight after dakar,with new team/mechanics/car/gravel crew/co driver,with minimum test.
Both are the best rally drivers ever,each one at their era.
What Loeb did at this Monte is unbelieavable.
He just prooved why at his golden years didnt lost from anybody.

[dimviii]

Neuville gets reprimand for hybrid rules breach

Use of his i20's internal combustion engine in a tire-fitting zone has drawn the ire of Monte stewards
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/neuville-gets-reprimand-for-hybrid-rules-breach/

[TypeR]

Neuville gets reprimand for hybrid rules breach

Use of his i20's internal combustion engine in a tire-fitting zone has drawn the ire of Monte stewards
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/neuville-gets-reprimand-for-hybrid-rules-breach/

Yet, Ogier got away with similar thing(which is totally fine at the moment).
Thinking that all teams have had troubles with the system during the rally, they shouldn't start with penalizing.

Maybe first make the systems work correctly and rethink the timetables, because drivers need to be at TC on time.

[Rallyper]

Mawnin´

[EstWRC]

Tänak bank touch from outside
https://youtu.be/BE4nIgzsrAw
From 3:30

Didn’t seem that hard TBH

[Rallyper]

The fight is on

[René]

Seb Loeb is well awake !

[Portimao]

Solberg retired

[Rallyper]

Heard something... Why?

[meh]

Solberg retired. (Announced in All-live). Hyundai is just one step away from total disaster.

[Rallyper]

I couldn´t hear why that is?

Edit: Fumes from yesterday made them feel ill even today. Poisoning matter...

[Portimao]

"Medical reasons"

[René]

The crew and the team agreed to retire as Oliver and Elliott are not feeling well due to the fumes issue that they experienced in the car in the past days. HMSG Official

[er88]

Hopefully both are OK.

Disaster for Hyundai

[Kielder]

In my land there's a saying: "Young people and green wood: all is smoke".

[meh]

It's kind of "The Sunday Cruise" now. No actual intense fights. It's still Monte, anything may happen, but seems quite settled now.

[EstWRC]

Cmon Thierry, you can do it!

Bring it home

[MentalParadox]

Strange they make the decision to retire Oliver after the first stage, instead of last night.

[Lead]

Gryazin is on different speed than he was in Polo last year.

[TypeR]

The gap is big, but if Ogier manages to keep the lead, will M-Sport change Loeb-Breen places?
2nd or 3rd for Loeb doesn't really matter and Breen first on the road in Sweden anyway, but 3 extra points would be very useful for him.

[bandit12]

Well... I'm starting to think, that mr Wuorela could be right afterall...

[doubled1978]

My apologies if anyone has already talked about this, but if Loeb can’t catch Ogier, surely it would make sense to drop him behind Breen for the Championship.
Also, you have to say despite driving very cautious, the rally has come Breens way and looks like a good start to the season for him.

Edit.
I see someone had the same thought as me!

[KKS]

Village team. 3 days in a row Oliver drive with exhaust gases in a car and it was "normal" And on final day, after all "fake-fixes" it became too dangerous ...

[wyler]

Strange they make the decision to retire Oliver after the first stage, instead of last night.

not really, they tried to fix the problem, but it reappeared on the stage, so they gave up.

[mknight]

The gap is big, but if Ogier manages to keep the lead, will M-Sport change Loeb-Breen places?
2nd or 3rd for Loeb doesn't really matter and Breen first on the road in Sweden anyway, but 3 extra points would be very useful for him.

I think they won't for PR reasons.

[wyler]

Village team. 3 days in a row Oliver drive with exhaust gases in a car and it was "normal" And on final day, after all "fake-fixes" it became too dangerous ...

they never said it was normal. just that they can't find a good way to fix it. (expecially without day service).

[Crutt]

they never said it was normal. just that they can't find a good way to fix it. (expecially without day service).
They could of super rallied Oliver after the last stage last night, it wouldn't of affected his position and they could have spent 3 hours trying to fix it rather than 45 minutes.

[KKS]

they never said it was normal. just that they can't find a good way to fix it. (expecially without day service).
Thursday - they got a service, didn't find a problem and let hims started a Friday. Friday night service - same, and Saturday same... and only at Sunday morning they realize that driving a car full of exhaust gas it was wrong... after 3 days with that...

[KKS]

They could of super rallied Oliver after the last stage last night, it wouldn't of affected his position and they could have spent 3 hours trying to fix it rather than 45 minutes.
And they still could fix it cuz they didn't know a problem...

[wyler]

They could of super rallied Oliver after the last stage last night, it wouldn't of affected his position and they could have spent 3 hours trying to fix it rather than 45 minutes.

yeah, or maybe they just couldn't fix it anyway and this morning became too bad/pointless.
as tanak stated in an interview, they know how to make the car better, they just don't have the spare parts to do it. rumors about the shortage of elements hang about for weeks.

[er88]

I think they won't for PR reasons.If they're serious about letting Breen build a championship they have to. It's nonsensical to have Loeb in 2nd and Breen 3rd. It's not like they are denying Loeb a win or a podium....

[wyler]

Thursday - they got a service, didn't find a problem and let hims started a Friday. Friday night service - same, and Saturday same... and only at Sunday morning they realize that driving a car full of exhaust gas it was wrong... after 3 days with that...

I don't think they used chains to force him in the car. they just carried on until it became pointless (or maybe too much to go on).