[WRC] Safari Rally Kenya 2021

[TypeR]

Fourmaux went straight over grass for 1-200metres :D

[wwbroe]

What is Fourmeaux doing there, was that an off or just a massive cut?

[wwbroe]

Very good stagetime for Fourmeaux

[mknight]

Looked like deliberate massive cut. I expect him to get 10s penalty tbh since they were trying to prevent this kind of cutting whole weekend. 10s is what "everyone" got on Monte for crossing a grass field.

[wwbroe]

Great opening split for Seb Ogier

[Rally Hokkaido]

What is Fourmeaux doing there, was that an off or just a massive cut? Hard one for the Stewards to judge, I think. It was the second time he ran wide out of a corner and stayed wide. However, this time there was a tree so couldn't rejoin the road straight away.

[wwbroe]

I think they did it on purpose

[Tom K]

According to French website, Neuville was helped by spectators before start of the stage.

Inquiétude du côté de
@thierryneuville
. Le belge a été aidé par des spectateurs avant le début de cette spéciale. Ils ont poussé la Hyundai pour qu’elle redémarre #WRC #SafariRallyKenya

[wwbroe]

Problems for Thierry

[TypeR]

and Ogier is the winner of Rally Kenya!

[wwbroe]

Once more

[EstWRC]

rear suspension again?

[Rally Hokkaido]

Gutted for Thierry - collapsed right rear suspension

[wwbroe]

Rear right suspension, looks like a shock broke out

[wwbroe]

How much bad luck can you have, and how much luck can the champ have?:rolleyes:

[TypeR]

and another one to the collection:
https://www.upload.ee/image/13267266/lowrider.jpg

[mknight]

But strangely collapsed. Top mount went trough perhaps? When that happened on the front in Turkey 2018 it was a mechanic that didn't tightend something properly.

[EstWRC]

man now im cursing even more Tänak mist up windscrrn yesterday
:mad:

[Rally Hokkaido]

Neuville slowed exiting a 90 degree left hander. Couldn't see it on the inboard but commentators say it was the same corner where Fourmaux almost hit a large rock on the road.

[Red bull]

The Safari Rally is unpredictable until they Finnish the last stage 🙄 anything can happen.

[mknight]

But the huge rock was in the middle of a real slow speed corner, looked totally avoidable. If that was what broke it.

[mknight]

man now im cursing even more Tänak mist up windscrrn yesterday
:mad:


So you are mad Neuville drops and Tanak gets podium...interesting.

[bandit12]

So you are mad Neuville drops and Tanak gets podium...interesting.

Where could Tänak be today, if he had not that windscreen issue?

[Tauri_J]

Adamo needs to be axed.

[EstWRC]

hmsgofficial
@HMSGOfficial
#WRC Warning sign
@thierryneuville
&
@MWydaeghe
forced to retire from the lead at
@wrcsafarirally
after SS14 with a broken rear-right damper. The team will recover the car and bring it back to service. #HMSGOfficial #SafariRallyKenya

[steve.mandzij]

If Toyota was a village team to NOT i wonder what he'd have to say today...

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[Ds3]

Adamo needs to be axed.

This is the key to success, this person puts too much pressure on the team.

[mknight]

Where could Tänak be today, if he had not that windscreen issue?

Perhaps last on the road hitting the same rock as Neuville and retiring with 0 points... you never know.

[meh]

2 run trough fesh-fesh, everyone need to be able to get through it first to finish. Really hope Taka don't ruin he's chance now somehow.

edit: fesh-fesh is only for powerstage?

[Rally Hokkaido]

2 run trough fesh-fesh, everyone need to be able to get through it first to finish. Really hope Taka don't ruin he's chance now somehow.

edit: fesh-fesh is only for powerstage?

Yes, SS15 has been shortened so crews can re-recce the last 4kms where the rutted fesh-fesh has been repaired by the Organisers.

[meh]

Adamo needs to be axed.

He is interesting character to watch, but from stage and situation in the season I would be surprised if there will not be any serious conversations at least.

[SubaruNorway]

Looks like the mounting for the damper on the upright has broken again
https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2021/wrc/neuvilles-lead-in-jeopardy/

[steve.mandzij]

I honestly reckon Hyundai would have quit the WRC at the end of the season if this string of disasters had happened earlier.

Surely this can't happen again.

[pantealex]

https://storage.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/sportity-storage/o/ff8c6dad-bdc4-4e19-863c-51d2cbe802b1%2Fbd5cd9ab-ec3e-47aa-93a4-ec3dc3f78389_Stewards%20Decision%20No.%208.pdf?gen eration=1624771821653514&alt=media
Pirelli has big hurry with WRC tyres.

[mknight]

https://storage.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/sportity-storage/o/ff8c6dad-bdc4-4e19-863c-51d2cbe802b1%2Fbd5cd9ab-ec3e-47aa-93a4-ec3dc3f78389_Stewards%20Decision%20No.%208.pdf?gen eration=1624771821653514&alt=media
Pirelli has big hurry with WRC tyres.

That's kind of weird. Surely they don't need the used tires "fast". More like the truck etc. leaving and they also use it to transport old tires.

[OHL]

How much bad luck can you have, and how much luck can the champ have?:rolleyes:

Don't forget that Seb had the damper issue on Friday and lost loads of time and it didn't look like he caused it. He has fought back hard to be where he is now. Full credit to him, I don't think luck played any part of Seb's performance this weekend.
Still need to finish the rally though...

[andyone]

Game overhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210627/5f953b76ba648f3993f66a9c9f97bbe4.jpg

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[TypeR]

Don't forget that Seb had the damper issue on Friday and lost loads of time and it didn't look like he caused it. He has fought back hard to be where he is now. Full credit to him, I don't think luck played any part of Seb's performance this weekend.
Still need to finish the rally though...

he touched a bank with left rear.. that pretty much caused it..

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E43dW2bWEAEb-S0?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E43dW2aX0AI5lx3?format=jpg&name=medium

[OHL]

he touched a bank with left rear.. that pretty much caused it..

Hard to say. It didn't look like that big of an impact for Seb, but we'll never know.
We don't know what happened with Thierry yet either.

[jonkka]

So Katsuta gets the honor of leading rally for... one stage...

[EstWRC]

he touched a bank with left rear.. that pretty much caused it..

naaahhh, its never Ogiers fault in the eyes of this forum

the blame is always on other drivers

[EstWRC]

i really hope Taka doesnt hit any trouble, i so want him to get his maiden podium...the guy has been very impressive this season

[Integrale]

So gutted for Neuville (and the championship). Ogier may not be the fastest everywhere, but he's the smartest everywhere. In hindsight he managed the rally and the circumstances the best. Haven't seen the footage from Neuville, but in all honesty, he should've controlled this.

[meh]

https://twitter.com/AdamoSays/status/1408802502024171520 - was this actual quote?

[mknight]

Next stage is the roughest one of the whole rally.

Hard to control pace without splits though.

[itix]

Absolutely absurd morning... Neuville must be beyond gutted.
Katsuta is leading a rally for 2 stages on a Sunday for the first time.

I hope he stays smart and at his safe pace. As we know anything can happen on this rally.

[jonkka]

https://twitter.com/AdamoSays/status/1408802502024171520 - was this actual quote?

It is parody account, so...?

[mknight]

https://twitter.com/AdamoSays/status/1408802502024171520 - was this actual quote?

AdamoSays is a parody account with majority of quotes made up.

They are pretty good though, specifically since often it's hard to tell real from parody.

[jonkka]

Katsuta is leading a rally for 2 stages on a Sunday for the first time.


So far only one (SS15). Neuville finished SS14 so he was leading still after that one.

[itix]

So far only one (SS15). Neuville finished SS14 so he was leading still after that one.Since Neuville retired between the stages, he will lead this stage and the next until the finish line. That's what I meant.

[mknight]

After watching the onboard again I'm not even sure if that rock was what caused the issue or if that was the first turn where it showed. There is no impact sound.

[cali]

How much bad luck can you have, and how much luck can the champ have?:rolleyes:It's not luck or bad luck. 3 rallies in a row when i20 rear suspension is collapsing has nothing to do with luck whatsoever

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[mknight]

Kruuda likes StarWars...

https://twitter.com/GustavKruuda/status/1409035537831411714?s=20

[TypeR]

good organising..

https://twitter.com/MichKatami/status/1409045528458010624?s=20

[jonkka]

Safari used to be THE rally that the Japanese wanted to win above all others so a home driver in a Japanese branded car surely would be a wet dream for Toyota.

I was thinking the same. The only cost of letting Katsuta to win would be seven lost WCD points for Ogier and at the current situation, that's peanuts as he would have lead of 29 pts over Evans if Seb finished 2nd overall. Is Latvala considering this, is he being pressured to think it, we'll see...

[Integrale]

good organising..

https://twitter.com/MichKatami/status/1409045528458010624?s=20
TIA - This is Africa

Can't see what organisers should do about this?

[Tauri_J]

Absolutely absurd morning... Neuville must be beyond gutted.
.

If neuville is gutted, I wonder how did Ott feel after Sardinia after losing 2nd rally win in a row

[Fredouye]

Tänak could even have won 3 rallyes in a row, without his windscreen issue…

[Tom K]

Shitroen is gone, Shitundai is born :cool:

[Rally Hokkaido]

After watching the onboard again I'm not even sure if that rock was what caused the issue or if that was the first turn where it showed. There is no impact sound.

In the interview now, Thierry described what we all thought happened. The bottom of the damper just broke as he exited the slow left corner.

[meh]

I was thinking the same. The only cost of letting Katsuta to win would be seven lost WCD points for Ogier and at the current situation, that's peanuts as he would have lead of 29 pts over Evans if Seb finished 2nd overall. Is Latvala considering this, is he being pressured to think it, we'll see...

So you want to say that Latvala should order Ogier to give victory to Taka? If you watch current dynamic, there is no actual fight. Taka have used his soft tired and losing time for everyone just because of that. Without any extra-dramas elsewhere, only thing Taka can do now is just bring this 2nd place home.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Safari used to be THE rally that the Japanese wanted to win above all others so a home driver in a Japanese branded car surely would be a wet dream for Toyota. The wise wouldnt bet against Ogier though who has a knack of winning "new" rallies like in Crotia against Evans.

Say "Monte Carlo Rally" to an average Japanese and they might answer, "ah, you won at the casino". Say "Safari" to the same person and they will complete the name for you, "Rally!" This is partly due to early success by Datsun and partly to this hit romantic movie about a race/rally driver who competes there in his Datsun 1600 (P510). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKdPK8Qt_hg

[Integrale]

But they push too hard and basically break their cars on purpose..
Evans was unlucky with the stone that came on the line and under his front wheel..
Sorry, but I have a different opinion. No clear errors by Tanak in the last two rallies and no clear error by Neuville now. But it's a mechanical sport and that can be cruel sometimes.

Evans wasn't unlucky, Evans cut too deep where it wasn't needed and touched a stone in the bushes.

[erikli2]

Close-up from Thierry's rear right

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[jonkka]

So you want to say that Latvala should order Ogier to give victory to Taka?

He could but he shouldn't. I am very firmly against team orders and national favoritism, but japs might think otherwise. I fear that the temptation is very strong.

[krissucool]

He could but he shouldn't. I am very firmly against team orders and national favoritism, but japs might think otherwise. I fear that the temptation is very strong.

Haha, Ogier would tell him to screw himself. In what possible circumstances would a 7 time world champion fighting for the title follow THOSE team orders :D

[Rallyper]

TIA - This is Africa

Can't see what organisers should do about this?

I can: Never asked for organizing WRC-event... ;)

[Mk2 RS2000]

a possible circumstance would be future pay cheques continuing for the the remainder if the year

[jonkka]

Haha, Ogier would tell him to screw himself. In what possible circumstances would a 7 time world champion fighting for the title follow THOSE team orders :D

That is another difficulty, bearing in mind how touchy Ogier was with team orders back in the days when he and Loeb drove for Citroen. Admittedly, at that point he was new-comer and now he might see things differently. But a row over team orders is hardly what Toyota would want either, which makes me hope there won't be any.

[Rallyper]

Haha, Ogier would tell him to screw himself. In what possible circumstances would a 7 time world champion fighting for the title follow THOSE team orders :D

Not following teamorders is worst thing you can do as an athlet. You loose your job, maybe?

[meh]

Another attempt to get stage win for Fourmaux

I wonder, do they have some special price in M-Sport or between Gus and Adrien for this one who gets stage win first.

[Oliverk]

Not following teamorders is worst thing you can do as an athlet. You loose your job, maybe?
Yes, Ogier must be really worried about loosing a job in his "last" season :D

[EstWRC]

Yes, Ogier must be really worried about loosing a job in his "last" season :D

now that his 8th title is sealed, it definitely wont be his last

[Integrale]

There will be no team orders. Ogier wins, Toyota gets a 1-2, everybody happy.

[ipe]

Yeah people here are thirsty for drama... that doesn't exist.

[Erki]

Can't imagine Taka being happy with a gifted win. I would be offended by even such offering. Better a fair and square, honourable 2nd place, first podium of the career, than your first win by team orders. I thought honour is a big concept for Japanese.

[krissucool]

Not following teamorders is worst thing you can do as an athlet. You loose your job, maybe?

The best driver and a 7 times world champion going for his 8th? :D

Get real.

[meh]

Another attempt to get stage win for Fourmaux

I wonder, do they have some special price in M-Sport or between Gus and Adrien for this one who gets stage win first.

Big stage for Fourmaux. Stage win and moving to 4th O/A.

[Tauri_J]

Ogier slow

[Rallyper]

The best driver and a 7 times world champion going for his 8th? :D

Get real.

No matter who. It´s still worst thing not obeying teamorders.

[krissucool]

No matter who. It´s still worst thing not obeying teamorders.

It might be but if you are the best driver in the world nobody is going to fire you if you would not gift your win for publicity reasons while you are in a championship fight. Its absurd to even think about it :D

[Integrale]

I stand corrected, there are team orders: just bring the cars back.

Meanwhile Tanak wants to go home as fast as possible.

[EstWRC]

lol and they are even

[BigWorm]

Fourmaux stage win, at least something nice today!

[meh]

As it is Safari, then M-Sport is "one puncture away" from podium.

[Integrale]

https://m.facebook.com/groups/2031979213709521/permalink/2924242644483169/

Not sure if you guys can see this. I hear Neuville saying that there are many cracks from before. So my guess is that the constant battering took its toll. Strange it happens on the first stage of the morning.

[EstWRC]

So you are mad Neuville drops and Tanak gets podium...interesting.

https://streamable.com/ovqw7j

[mknight]

Fourmaux didn't do the massive cut this time.

Guess he has his stage win already and doesn't want to risk penalties fighting with Greensmith.

[meh]

Fourmaux may get second stage-win here. No-one else is pushing. I think Ogier is confident enough to solve "the win" without pushing too much on that stage.

edit: well, Ogier want to make things clear already.

[dimviii]

Ben Constanduros
@BenConsty
·
5h
Good morning from @wrcsafarirally
- heading for the Power Stage!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E43C8gZX0AAfboG?format=jpg&name=large

[EstWRC]

Ogier pushing now for lead

[jonkka]

Who is willing to risk and push on PS?

[Tauri_J]

Who is willing to risk and push on PS?

Evans for sure

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E44FxTgWEAMCCCl?format=jpg&name=large

[Rallyper]

That´s it folks!

[Ds3]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E44FxTgWEAMCCCl?format=jpg&name=large

In my opinion, if Neuville and Adamo are removed from Hyundai, things will improve a lot. The atmosphere will become positive and things will go up ....

[mknight]

Well Katsuta did try, thumbs up for him.

[mknight]

In my opinion, if Neuville and Adamo are removed from Hyundai, things will improve a lot. The atmosphere will become positive and things will go up ....

On the other hand before Adamo came, they didn't win a single title.

[Integrale]

On the other hand before Adamo came, they didn't win a single title.
Correlation doesn't mean causation.

[mknight]

Correlation doesn't mean causation.

True, but while 2019 manu title was both due to driver rotation and due to Meeke and Latvala crashing, 2020 title was clearly due to 3rd driver rotation.

[doubled1978]

The drivers have pushed the engineers to make the Hyundai faster, more competitive with the Toyota, and it appears from the outside to have come at the cost of some reliability. I guess for them it’s a good thing next year is a whole new car….

[Fredouye]

now that his 8th title is sealed, it definitely wont be his last

His last full season, quite sure ;)

[Integrale]

True, but while 2019 manu title was both due to driver rotation and due to Meeke and Latvala crashing, 2020 title was clearly due to 3rd driver rotation.
I don't know if you can pinpoint a title to a single variable. But you have a valid point.

I just find Adamo's statements and behaviour questionable. For example, after Sordo's crash here, he said something along the lines of Sordo not following the plan they had. If I were Sordo, I'd be fuming. You're the team boss. Just like a coach does in football, you protect your team. If my position is questioned in the media after every mistake, I will make more mistakes because I'm afraid. (Sordo's off wasn't even a mistake.)

I don't know the guy of course, but he seems to have some narcissistic characteristics. Also in interviews. He's a born winner, that's for sure. But when things aren't going his way, he becomes very negative and cynical. The interview about the spark plugs on Friday... He just attacked Julian Porter in that interview in a passive aggressive way. What does Hyundai get out of that?

Okay, some people need that kind of character to get the best out of themselves. For other people it's the exact opposite, they need trust (like Makinen did). I think a team boss should have the people skills to know what each person needs. And especially, protect your team. You win and lose together. That's why I don't really like the guy. People tend to do their very best just because they want to do their very best, not because someone tells them to. The team boss has to create the circumstances where people are able to do their very best.

[andyone]

https://i.imgur.com/MKlxJpY.jpg

[bomber21]

Another rally that Ogier is going to win…
Ogier is a genius. It is unbelievable how he finds always a way to win.

[mknight]

Yeah I agree with what you write about Adamo. Especially the first reactions after/during a rally can't be good for the drivers and for the team atmosphere.

He says himself he wants to do something at once. It seems he often doesn't think about the consequences this has for longer term than exactly that moment.

[Tauri_J]

But was Neuville's pace too fast like most of us were saying on saturday?

[meh]

I don't know if you can pinpoint a title to a single variable. But you have a valid point.

I just find Adamo's statements and behaviour questionable. For example, after Sordo's crash here, he said something along the lines of Sordo not following the plan they had. If I were Sordo, I'd be fuming. You're the team boss. Just like a coach does in football, you protect your team. If my position is questioned in the media after every mistake, I will make more mistakes because I'm afraid. (Sordo's off wasn't even a mistake.)

I don't know the guy of course, but he seems to have some narcissistic characteristics. Also in interviews. He's a born winner, that's for sure. But when things aren't going his way, he becomes very negative and cynical. The interview about the spark plugs on Friday... He just attacked Julian Porter in that interview in a passive aggressive way. What does Hyundai get out of that?

Okay, some people need that kind of character to get the best out of themselves. For other people it's the exact opposite, they need trust (like Makinen did). I think a team boss should have the people skills to know what each person needs. And especially, protect your team. You win and lose together. That's why I don't really like the guy. People tend to do their very best just because they want to do their very best, not because someone tells them to. The team boss has to create the circumstances where people are able to do their very best.

Just one more parameter to take in account - I think Adamo's interviews are a bit "role play" and personally I think he is over-play that role. Some interviews and answers are ridiculous, but it's anyway question of taste - some may like it. Most likely he is completely different characters when there is in-team discussion.

The same way - watch how other drivers are describe Tänak (previously Ostberg in All-Live for example), it's a bit different description compared to "stage end interview Tänak".

[racerx1979]

Korea will most likely can Adamo end of this year unless he has a solid contract.

[meh]

But was Neuville's pace too fast like most of us were saying on saturday?

He delivered without mistakes, nothing to say against that. So far there is no connection between "driving too fast" and retirement.

[mknight]

He delivered without mistakes, nothing to say against that. So far there is no connection between "driving too fast" and retirement.

I don't agree. On this very stage where he retired he seemingly made no mistakes.

But on Friday he got 3 punctures in one loop, including driving on the rim at the rear of the car (opposite side than the one that broke).

[er88]

Gutted for Neuville. This would have put him back in the championship hunt, but now it's over. 8th title for the champ.

[meh]

I don't agree. On this very stage where he retired he seemingly made no mistakes.

But on Friday he got 3 punctures in one loop, including driving on the rim at the rear of the car (opposite side than the one that broke).

Question was about Saturday.

[mknight]

Just one more parameter to take in account - I think Adamo's interviews are a bit "role play" and personally I think he is over-play that role. Some interviews and answers are ridiculous, but it's anyway question of taste - some may like it. Most likely he is completely different characters when there is in-team discussion.

The same way - watch how other drivers are describe Tänak (previously Ostberg in All-Live for example), it's a bit different description compared to "stage end interview Tänak".

When he kicks drivers from next rally it certainly isn't "role play" (Loeb Monte 2020, Mikkelsen Chile 2019, same with Solberg "kicked up" for Arctic this year after bad team result at Monte).

Similarly there are published accounts about long "wash downs" after rallies (ex. Mexico last year).

[BigWorm]

I don't agree. On this very stage where he retired he seemingly made no mistakes.

But on Friday he got 3 punctures in one loop, including driving on the rim at the rear of the car (opposite side than the one that broke).

Ironic isn't it, he drove fast to build a lead on Friday and got some damage but he made it.

Yesterday and today he was controlling it and got some damage today, but didn't make it.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sad for Neuville but here is the place that reliability counts most and Hyundai just havent got it.

Happy for Toyota whose cars have been pretty solid for a while now and appropriate they win here with their great Safari Rally history.

M-Sport have done a great job here too with a skeleton engineering crew. Their young drivers have stuck to the plan and been rewarded with the Fourmaux stage win and good points.

[Ds3]

Yes, in general, Neuville and Adamo interfere with Hyundai. They are both narcissists

[dimviii]

I don't agree. On this very stage where he retired he seemingly made no mistakes.

But on Friday he got 3 punctures in one loop, including driving on the rim at the rear of the car (opposite side than the one that broke).

suspension have changed since Friday,so nothing to do the Friday punctures with todays suspension collapse

[BigWorm]

Yes, in general, Neuville and Adamo interfere with Hyundai. They are both narcissists

There are not many racing drivers who aren't to the slightest degree

[dimviii]

Similarly there are published accounts about long "wash downs" after rallies (ex. Mexico last year).

explain please.

[racerx1979]

Every champ has narcissistic qualities... Every single one. It's part of the game.

[meh]

When he kicks drivers from next rally it certainly isn't "role play" (Loeb Monte 2020, Mikkelsen Chile 2019, same with Solberg "kicked up" for Arctic this year after bad team result at Monte).

Similarly there are published accounts about long "wash downs" after rallies (ex. Mexico last year).

I was talking about interviews and those seems to be role-play for me. Why to "argue" with something with different topic? Two out of context comments in row.

[meh]

And on time - no over-play interview from Adamo.

[focus206]

Not surprised Hyundai handed yet another win to Ogier. Their cars are just too fragile, you can't win championships like that. Neuville and Tanak are not dumb, they know how to win rallies and how to lift, but they can't do much if the car breaks down for every small thing.
Same for Ogier being super smart... he is very consistent, but what's so smart in just driving and waiting for the Hyundais to DNF without the drivers even committing big mistakes? Hardly a genius "strategy".
What a boring championship...

[denkimi]

The problem is not adamo, nor neuville nor any other driver. If the rear wheels fall off every single rally, often mutiple times, that's a problem with the design.

So the problem is the people responsible for the technical side. Either the design is wrong, the quality control is not good enough or they don't replace parts often enough.

But since its not only the rear suspension but other things that should never happen, like Tanaks windscreen heating, i asssume it's mostly a problem with quality control checks.

[Tauri_J]

Tänak and Neuville should go flatout all the time. The car only breaks when they're in comfortable lead and taking it easy.

[seb_sh]

Yeah seems that people are searching for drama and to make a story but there is really none here. Katsuta knows his place is secured in the team with such performances but he's not fighting for the championship. A 2nd is great, would be stupid for him to fight Ogier and risk anything.

[Rallyper]

Oliver in All Live Sweden broadcast on SVT.

[rallyfiend]

There are not many racing drivers who aren't to the slightest degree

you don't make t to to world championship level of any sport without a huge amount of narcissism and self-confidence.

[Mirek]

I haven't had time to watch wrc+ untill now but I have to say I like the power stage.

[Tauri_J]

When do drivers stop pulling helmet's balaclava over their noses? Looks so ridicilous and stupid and surely wont help against covid.

[BigWorm]

They are looking for a quality inspector at Hyundai Motorsport :p

[Rallyper]

Oliver says he had no preparations and got to know very late he´d go to Kenya. He´s looking forward to Estonia, but no info about what car he´ll drive...

[jonkka]

They are looking for a quality inspector at Hyundai Motorsport :p

One of 17 open positions they are seeking to fill... :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

www.autosport.com/wrc/news/neuville-defends-hyundai-wrc-reliability/6545014/

Wonder what he'll say now...

[mknight]

explain please.

During Monza -post season interviews Adamo talked in detail about 2 hours discussion with all drivers and engineers on Sunday after Mexico, before they took the plane to Europe.

Before Arctic Neuville said in an interview that he thought the "reaction" (don't remember the exact word) after Monte was maybe a bit too much.

[andyone]

https://i.imgur.com/2GSj5oR.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/b1cLkAw.jpg

[andyone]

https://i.imgur.com/rq1Q5Hs.jpg

[mknight]

Oliver says he had no preparations and got to know very late he´d go to Kenya. He´s looking forward to Estonia, but no info about what car he´ll drive...

Which again fits in the "hasty" reaction to "do something" from Adamo.

[BigWorm]

Nice attack from Sordo

[Rallyper]

Which again fits in the "hasty" reaction to "do something" from Adamo.

But oc he couldn´t refuse either. It was a chance anyway to get a drive and experience. Which he really got in many ways.

[SubaruNorway]

I haven't had time to watch wrc+ untill now but I have to say I like the power stage.

For me this is the least interesting stage of the rally, more like an European or Mexico stage

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans is on it.

[Mirek]

For me this is the least interesting stage of the rally

Great then. I just didn't watch the rest so I can't comment the others :)

[meh]

Now we can see the actual speed for M-Sport when others are pushing as well.

[Oliverk]

Great then. I just didn't watch the rest so I can't comment the others :)
Skip saturday. Boring as hell. Only 15 minutes of final stage was ok.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Two cars to a good finish position - job done M-Sport.

[EstWRC]

amazing driving from Ott in the ruts

[Rallyper]

Ott!! -0,7 sec

[EstWRC]

Great and calculated driving from Tänak but another possible win lost due technical/mechanical

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak salvaging something.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Congrats to Katsuta - first podium and on the Safari Rally that the Japanese revere.

[meh]

So, Taka made it!

[EstWRC]

super Taka!!!

im almost in tears

[ipe]

Very nice for Takamoto Katsuta.

[EstWRC]

another Toyota 1-2

[Rallyper]

Congrats to a very wise approach to the rally, Seb.

[meh]

another Toyota 1-2

Not from team points of view.

[racerx1979]

My rally coach works with Taka and does gravel crew for him. This was very very special!! He looked great out there. If there's a rigorous test for a driver it's gotta be Safari. On to the next one!
Gutted for Neuville, but it ain't over till the fat lady sings.

[Doon]

Commentator, “Ogier knows the history of WRC and how important it is to win the Safari”.

Interviewer, “Seb, watching the Safari rally on TV 20 years ago, it must feel amazing to win here”.

Ogier, “Honestly, I never watched the Safari rally on TV” 😂 some rally fan.

Don’t they realise that most of them wanted to be F1 drivers?

[Oliverk]

lol. They let children host the podium.

[seb_sh]

total screw up with the anthems

[BigWorm]

Wrong playlist!

[Doon]

Did Taka win the rally? They played the Japanese national anthem for the winning driver.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

2x Japanese anthem ! :D

[BigWorm]

Nice celebration at least. They made their own rules :D

[Doon]

This is the least professional podium celebration ever. Makes the WRC look really a amateur

[meh]

Taka is proof and hope for a lot of drivers, that if you are not born-ready-WRC talent, you can achieve high results with hard work. Good job Taka and team around him!

[mknight]

Taka is proof and hope for a lot of drivers, that if you are not born-ready-WRC talent, you can achieve high results with hard work. Good job Taka and team around him!

He has not yet proved he can beat anyone of the top 4-5 or get a podium based on pure speed, but his progress since last year has been great.

I am with you that it's a refreshing with a "slow mover" and shows the value of "sticking" with new drivers rather than writing them off after a few starts which has become the norm lately.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Taka is proof and hope for a lot of drivers, that if you are not born-ready-WRC talent, you can achieve high results with hard work. Good job Taka and team around him!

True, though he has been around rally all his life as his father is still a top-five driver in Japan Rally Championship. Of course, he raced F3 rather than exactly following his dad.

[mknight]

Recommend watching SS13 onboard with Ogier and Neuville.

Two wet areas around 5-7 min and 9-11. Ogier maybe more rain (less visibily), Neuville more water on road. Specially on the straights with huge amounts of water Neuville was downright crazy.

[dupanton]

10sec penalty for Fourmaux after cutting on a SS14. He drops 0.1 behind Greensmith with this.

[Myrvold]

10sec penalty for Fourmaux after cutting on a SS14. He drops 0.1 behind Greensmith with this.

It was quite clear, but I wonder where the limits were, there was a lot of cutting/non-road driving this rally, but Fourmaux was the only one who got a penalty?

[Red bull]

President Uhuru Kenyatta announces that an agreement has been reached between GoK, FIA and WRC to hold Safari Rally every year, until the year 2026.
#WRCSafariRally2021

[Mirek]

Sorry if it was already posted but I didn't find it by search.

Crash of Tejveer Rai: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myL100W-2xk

[dupanton]

Often the difference is when there is an obstacle they don't go around. Like in this case with the trees.
Although in Monte Carlo they gave penalties for all drivers that went 4 wheels of the road through a field to cut a corner.
In Jamoul his defence, he says the rules changed (so I presume after Monte Carlo) and he thought it was allowed what they did.

[Andre Oliveira]

President Uhuru Kenyatta announces that an agreement has been reached between GoK, FIA and WRC to hold Safari Rally every year, until the year 2026.
#WRCSafariRally2021

Great. What a fantastic rally.

[Red bull]

Toyota and Zebra scene from the Safari Rally. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10227182181919438&id=1204582770&sfnsn=mo

[dimviii]

Fourmaux cut
https://twitter.com/MaguiZ48/status/1409154583440596995

[Fast Eddie WRC]

10sec penalty for Fourmaux after cutting on a SS14. He drops 0.1 behind Greensmith with this.

At least he didnt lose a place to another team driver.

It seems a harsh penalty for what he did.

( BTW,when I watched the Safari rally documentary the other day it showed it used to be the case that you could go any way you wanted between the time controls. If a road was really bad, like flooded or deep mud, some driver's used to drive through the field alongside for miles and then back on the road where it was better.)

[AnttiL]

At least he didnt lose a place to another team driver.

It seems a harsh penalty for what he did.

( BTW,when I watched the Safari rally documentary the other day it showed it used to be the case that you could go any way you wanted between the time controls. If a road was really bad, like flooded or deep mud, some driver's used to drive through the field alongside for miles and then back on the road where it was better.)

Well not really going any way you wanted between time controls, you still had to follow the road book. Cutting just has been more laid back in the past, watch Alen on any super special. And in addition, now you have cameras on the car reporting every single second.

[mknight]

Penalty was ok for me. He certainly did it to gain a competetive advantage, avoiding two mid-speed corners on the straight.

[Myrvold]

At every event they are pinned on the Official Notice Board. These days there is a virtual Official Notice Board on each rally's website. Eg.https://www.safarirally.co.ke/documents/

Oh, I know how it works at the events :) I'm just too used to F1/WEC where there are one place to find the docs for every event. I take it that in WRC it's on the event organizers web page for every event?

[dimviii]

guys what about the pirelli tyres?Good or bad at Safari?

[Tauri_J]

guys what about the pirelli tyres?Good or bad at Safari?

To be honest I expected more punctures.

[mknight]

Afaik there were 2 "real' punctures. One each for Neuville and Tanak on friday. Both on last stage of the leg and I think both on used? softs (not sure).

Other two of Neuville were tires off rim or broken rim. Think Fourmaux also got tire off rim on PS.

Question is if the tire was now made too hard so it breaks suspension instead, or they run it with higher pressure?
(Ogier, Greensmith and Neuville here, Sordo in Sardinia also lost wheel and rolled the car with tire intact, Mikkelsen also apparently broke a damper on the "pre safari' Pirelli test, might even wonder about both Solberg retirements here as well as Evans )

[linni]

Who took the pictures?
The second one is definitely a candidate for the best rally pic of the year.

[linni]

https://i.imgur.com/2GSj5oR.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/b1cLkAw.jpg

This one i wanted to quote,

[linni]

2x Japanese anthem ! :D

Seb applied for Japanese citizenship. To get 3 more seasons in Toyota.

[dimviii]

Takamoto, welcome to the WRC podium for the first time in your career. What is the feeling to be here right now?
TK:
Very happy, let’s say. It is a special feeling after a tough weekend and very long. In beginning of the week I was not well and had food poison (ing) and was quite sick

https://www.fia.com/news/wrc-s-ogier-everyone-predicted-entertaining-weekend-it-definitely-delivered

[dimviii]

amazing imho photo


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E46Yp91XMAsj4e_?format=jpg&name=large

[doubled1978]

guys what about the pirelli tyres?Good or bad at Safari?

Seemed ok I think, but a lot of the roads were soft and not so hard on the tyres. I think Greece will be a lot worse for the tyres

[SubaruNorway]

This one i wanted to quote,
At World i think, 2nd one at least.

What stage were those giraffes on again on Friday?

[Jarek Z]

Taka is proof and hope for a lot of drivers, that if you are not born-ready-WRC talent, you can achieve high results with hard work. Good job Taka and team around him!

Does that mean that the constant criticism of Chris Ingram on this forum will stop now? ;)

[the sniper]

It might not have been everyone's cup of tea, but I loved this rally. First time in a long time I've watched every minute of every stage on All Live (admittedly, on delay). Thanks must go to those who made it possible, including Mr Todt. It really shouldn't have been away so long... Hopefully this encourages the WRC to have a greater respect for the sport's heritage going forwards.

[meh]

Does that mean that the constant criticism of Chris Ingram on this forum will stop now? ;)

Quite provocative question, to keep "the thread flowing" for few more days? :)

Till there is someone who thinks that Ingram is the Man and serves high(er)-level contract and opportunity, there is someone who thinks opposite. Simple as that. No chance it ends :)

[AnttiL]

I would say Safari gave what I expected. It was tough, unexpected and unique. It was very fast at times, and very slow at others. It wasn't the old Safari, not even like in 2002, but it's still a Safari Rally just as much as Monte is Monte in its current edition.

[meh]

I would say Safari gave what I expected. It was tough, unexpected and unique. It was very fast at times, and very slow at others. It wasn't the old Safari, not even like in 2002, but it's still a Safari Rally just as much as Monte is Monte in its current edition.

What I was afraid of before rally - it will be pure lottery of punctures and other technical failures. Friday gave scary perspective with a lot of retirements and quite some punctures. Saturday was opposite and even boring, only last-stage rain gave this lottery, but it's not Safari specific - it may rain everywhere. Also from Sunday there was not any too rough conditions related dramas anymore. Probably drivers just learned from Friday and adapted.

For me only Safari specific retirement or problem for WRC cars was Rovanperä stuck in Fesh-Fesh. It is combination of road condition and luck but this is not an example which advertise this rally from positive side. If we look stage results for lower-class, there were many cars stuck in the middle of the road and not getting stuck maybe was not even an option. From those problems hopefully everyone learned and it's more enjoyable next time.

From pure-sportic point of view - it's also not that nice, that you can achieve 6th place with 10min loss, 7th place with 30min loss and 10th place 50min loss. Only 1 WRC2 competitor and this one retired. Hopefully list of competitors will increase when COVID restrictions are lowered but travelling to Kenya will be expensive (compared to Europe events) anyway.

[mknight]

Rovanpera getting stuck was imo a combination of multiple things... organizers not used to roads getting destroyed so much and Rovanpera not used to driving trough that. Ultimately he got stuck cause he eased off from throttle (cause he couldn't see) and then digged in after flooring it again.

I would say the organizers already learned and applied the lesson on Sunday, "repairing" the last part of PS.

The low amount of entries outside of Kenya is imo a combination of COVID, dates in calendar (one week after one ERC round and one week before another, Sardinia and Estonia also quite close) as well as Rally2 entries not knowing what to expect. Guess most expect retirement lottery and therefore nobody came. I would expect more Rally2 entries next year (say 6-8 instead of 2 this year), but it will off course never be as packed as a European round.

[AnttiL]

To me getting stuck is sort of a part of Safari...in the old days you could get stuck in a river crossing or a mudhole for an hour, that's basically same as 10 minutes of penalty.

[AnttiL]

The low amount of entries outside of Kenya is imo a combination of COVID, dates in calendar (one week after one ERC round and one week before another, Sardinia and Estonia also quite close) as well as Rally2 entries not knowing what to expect. Guess most expect retirement lottery and therefore nobody came. I would expect more Rally2 entries next year (say 6-8 instead of 2 this year), but it will off course never be as packed as a European round.

And also proximity of Sardegna and Estonia, especially for a privateer, and considering quarantines.

[Red bull]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/how-the-2021-safari-lived-up-to-its-ancestors-reputation/ Thumbs up for the Safari Rally

[denkimi]

To me getting stuck is sort of a part of Safari...in the old days you could get stuck in a river crossing or a mudhole for an hour, that's basically same as 10 minutes of penalty.
On a 5000km endurance rally getting stuck for an hour is no immense problem. On a 300km sprint that should not happen.

Especially not when drivers get penalised for driving next to the road. If we allow undrivable roads we should also allow drivers to not use them.

[Red bull]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/ogier-safari-challenge-is-what-we-want-as-drivers/ Ogier and Tanak liked the Safari adventure.

[AnttiL]

On a 5000km endurance rally getting stuck for an hour is no immense problem. On a 300km sprint that should not happen.

As we can see, no one got stuck for an hour in this Safari. Tow trucks were present at the worst places, and their usage was permitted. Getting stuck just resulted in some minutes of time loss.

[denkimi]

As we can see, no one got stuck for an hour in this Safari. Tow trucks were present at the worst places, and their usage was permitted. Getting stuck just resulted in some minutes of time loss.
Even 5 minutes is too long on such a short event.

Either ist endurance, and then they need a lot more km's to make it so. Or its sprint and then staying on the normal tracks should not make you get stuck.

Rovanpera should have been given a notional time, just like all the others, because it was due to the conditions of the road. Just like when another car blocks the road or a fence is closed. It's beyond the competitor to do anything about it, so they should not be punished for it.

[er88]

Even 5 minutes is too long on such a short event.

Either ist endurance, and then they need a lot more km's to make it so. Or its sprint and then staying on the normal tracks should not make you get stuck.

Rovanpera should have been given a notional time, just like all the others, because it was due to the conditions of the road. Just like when another car blocks the road or a fence is closed. It's beyond the competitor to do anything about it, so they should not be punished for it.He was the only car that got stuck. Toyota should've raised the ride height and Kalle should'nt have slowed down so much (although I understand why he did)

[dimviii]

Nelly Ron
@nelly_ron
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7h
WRC Safari Rally 2021 has attracted over 848 million TV viewers in 150 countries, making it one of the most watched global events this year

[Fast Eddie WRC]

To me getting stuck is sort of a part of Safari...in the old days you could get stuck in a river crossing or a mudhole for an hour, that's basically same as 10 minutes of penalty.

The difference then was you could get outside assistance and service at stage side and from your team helicopter. No-one ever retired just by getting stuck or a car breakage other than a blown engine.

[er88]

Nelly Ron
@nelly_ron
·
7h
WRC Safari Rally 2021 has attracted over 848 million TV viewers in 150 countries, making it one of the most watched global events this yearThat's brilliant! That dwarfs any F1 race this year does it not?

[mknight]

Reading the usual after-event Dirtfish articles I am slightly perplexed by the Katsuta and Fourmaux praise levels.

Yes they did great, I commented on Fourmaux especially during the event for his great approach for this kind of rally and on Katsuta for his development process.

But the reality is that no matter how well they did relative to their experience Katsuta was only faster than Greensmith and Fourmaux on speed and Fourmaux was the slowest WRC (after the deserved penalty).

With "normal" retirement rate this would put them on 5-6th place for Katsuta and 7-8 for Fourmaux.

Again great job here and great approach but just about all WRC rallies are won on speed and not due to retirements of others. Therefore I find it really strange when Dirtfish talk about winning a rally next for Katsuta and making him Toyota factory driver and about making Fourmaux MSport #1 next year.

[er88]

Reading the usual after-event Dirtfish articles I am slightly perplexed by the Katsuta and Fourmaux praise levels.

Yes they did great, I commented on Fourmaux especially during the event for his great approach for this kind of rally and on Katsuta for his development process.

But the reality is that no matter how well they did relative to their experience Katsuta was only faster than Greensmith and Fourmaux on speed and Fourmaux was the slowest WRC (after the deserved penalty).

With "normal" retirement rate this would put them on 5-6th place for Katsuta and 7-8 for Fourmaux.

Again great job here and great approach but just about all WRC rallies are won on speed and not due to retirements of others. Therefore I find it really strange when Dirtfish talk about winning a rally next for Katsuta and making him Toyota factory driver and about making Fourmaux MSport #1 next year.Rich Millener said if he was running Toyota, he wouldn't look outwith Toyota's current drivers for next years lineup. Either Ogier does a full season, or on the events he doesn't do, just promote Taka to pts scorer.

So clearly he rates Taka, or maybe it says more about what he thinks of Lappi/ Suninen/ Mikkelsen or any other drivers that are available. Which could hint worryingly towards Msport running Fourmaux and Greensmith as two of their 3 drivers for next year (nothing against Fourmaux)

[bomber21]

Nelly Ron
@nelly_ron
·
7h
WRC Safari Rally 2021 has attracted over 848 million TV viewers in 150 countries, making it one of the most watched global events this year

This is great news for the sport we love, IF IT IS TRUE.

[macebig]

To finish first, first you need to finish. It's neither Takamoto's nor Fourmaux's fault, the i20s decided to show their fragility once again, Elfyn Evans did another silly mistake or Oliver Solberg and Kalle Rovanpera got caught out by inexperience. Both the Frenchman and the Japanese did the best they could, kept it mostly clean and got rewarded for it.

[steve.mandzij]

I can't bring myself to agree with the ratings. I'd honestly have given Neuville a 10. He put in an exceptional, uncharacteristically mature drive and fully deserved the victory...

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[erikli2]

The source regarding the number of viewers is from 2019 and is most likely the number of people who have the possibility to watch the stream in their country, not the actual viewers.

https://nation.africa/kenya/sports/motorsports/safari-rally-returns-to-wrc-what-they-said-207868?view=htmlamp

[EstWRC]

Tänak only 6?

Also, ridiculous statements from Clark once again why he gave this rating....

Don’t know why I even bothered to read

[cali]

So you still wondering about Colin's ratings, still relevant? :D

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[Franky]

So you still wondering about Colin's ratings, still relevant? :D

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Haven't read any of them but the discussion that follows here is usually entertaining.

[AnttiL]

Considering he contains car quality within the ratings, Tänak should be lower

[cali]

Considering he contains car quality within the ratings, Tänak should be lowerAlso as Tänak isn't british he should be even lower :D
Haven't read it but I guess the ratings for Evans 7/10 and Gus 8/10.

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[AndyRAC]

Nelly Ron
@nelly_ron
·
7h
WRC Safari Rally 2021 has attracted over 848 million TV viewers in 150 countries, making it one of the most watched global events this year

If you believe those figures, you probably believe in fairies, and Santa Claus......

[trykmann]

Clarks ratings are always quite amusing.

Evans makes a stupid mistake and still gets 4 points, but on the other hand Sordos and Tänaks cars broke down and they recieve 5 and 6 points.

[mknight]

Rich Millener said if he was running Toyota, he wouldn't look outwith Toyota's current drivers for next years lineup. Either Ogier does a full season, or on the events he doesn't do, just promote Taka to pts scorer.

So clearly he rates Taka, or maybe it says more about what he thinks of Lappi/ Suninen/ Mikkelsen or any other drivers that are available. Which could hint worryingly towards Msport running Fourmaux and Greensmith as two of their 3 drivers for next year (nothing against Fourmaux)

Maybe it also says what he thinks about Ogier "retirement". He said before he doesn't believe he won't try another title.

Yes in case Ogier does say 8 out of 12 rounds it might be "easiest" to just nominate Katsuta for rest.

Right now Katsuta looks like a decent 4-6 place points score, but compared with Hyundai driver rotation it isn't enough. Just like last year Rovanpera wasn't enough against Sordo/Breen/Loeb. It's only Hyundai reliability that will win Toyota the title this year.

If we assume that MSport car has a decent speed next year I would expect Katsuta getting beaten by Fourmaux on at least half of the events. Even this year he was already faster than him on tarmac in Croatia.

MSport seems to be heading towards Fourmaux+Greensmith in two of the cars quite clearly at the moment. As long as they put Lappi or Mikkelsen in the last car it looks decent (Suninen doesn't seem to have high standings there at the moment). The main worry is that they won't run the 3rd car with a non-paying driver. Question is if Gryazin could be the paying driver, not sure how good economy that would be though.

Anyway I'd still say it's a bit early for any decisions at MSport. Probably first after Ypres there will be some detailed "rumors".

[Jarek Z]

At 47:00 you can see how the rally ended for the legend - the 91-year old Sobieslaw Zasada. He got stuck in a rut behind another Fiesta and then was hit by another car from the back, which destroyed rear suspension in his car. It all happened 3km from the finish line of the last stage. Despite not finishing the last stage, Zasada's co-driver says they will still be classified in the final results:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyaVzWEo--0&t=2820s

[Tom K]

https://twitter.com/ram_yashiri/status/1409787705391734790 ??

[Jarek Z]

https://twitter.com/ram_yashiri/status/1409787705391734790 ??

What?! Another Volkswagen scandal?

[Tom K]

The source is.. ekhm questionable, but maybe some of you will see anything more.

[seb_sh]

Tänak only 6?

Also, ridiculous statements from Clark once again why he gave this rating....

Don’t know why I even bothered to read

The man is essentially a stage end reporter who sometimes gives his opinion... but it's not worth much.

[mknight]

https://twitter.com/ram_yashiri/status/1409787705391734790 ??

I believe it's routine that FIA investigates any crash that leads to injury. The other claim I find hard to believe.

On that picture I wonder why the A-pillar is snapped though.

[Rally Hokkaido]

I believe it's routine that FIA investigates any crash that leads to injury. The other claim I find hard to believe.

On that picture I wonder why the A-pillar is snapped though.

I believe the A-pillar was cut by the rescue personnel. There was a Kenya Quest TV reporter who filmed everything from the accident occurring until the evacuation helicopter departed. Watching his video I saw one official carrying 'the jaws of life' towards the car.

[JAM]

Clarks ratings are always quite amusing.

Evans makes a stupid mistake and still gets 4 points, but on the other hand Sordos and Tänaks cars broke down and they recieve 5 and 6 points.

And Ogier who was sitting on the 4th place saw Tanak car broke, then Neuville car broke, then Takamoto getting out of the way and receive 9 ponts.

[Jarek Z]

One more thing about Safari, difficult to predict how the starting order will affect things. Unlike most gravel rallies, there won't be a hard-based road to clean from loose gravel, it will just dig deeper into the soil, and whether it will make for better traction or not, I don't know. Dust could also be a big issue. I'm ready to put my money on Ogier's win.

And how much did you win? ;)

[AnttiL]

And Ogier who was sitting on the 4th place saw Tanak car broke, then Neuville car broke, then Takamoto getting out of the way and receive 9 ponts.

Also scored most stage wins, so it wasn’t just sitting

[satnav]

https://twitter.com/ram_yashiri/status/1409787705391734790 ??

The original tweet has now been deleted ..............

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Dirtfish on Neuville's suspension failure states Hyundai used refurbished parts that could have hidden damage:

https://youtu.be/flKhgo8es_o

[Rallyper]

Shouldn´t be a problem if they x-ray all parts. Don´t think they straighten up a bent part and reuse it...

Meaning they certainly could reuse old parts if they fullfill demands.

[Tauri_J]

I think thats bogus. Why would they reuse parts that have a tendency to break every god damn rally?

[dimviii]

Dirtfish on Neuville's suspension failure states Hyundai used refurbished parts that could have hidden damage:

https://youtu.be/flKhgo8es_o

i dont think that Msport or Toyota throw to the bin the used suspension.Everybody refurbishe and use again.

[dimviii]

Neuville rejects suggestion he was too fast on Safari

Jari-Matti Latvala reckoned Neuville pushed too hard last weekend, but Neuville feels his strategy was the right one

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/neuville-rejects-suggestion-he-was-too-fast-on-safari/

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5Ilce6WQAAqXvW?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[dimviii]

Yes. In 1995, Toyota told me to go to Kenya and stay for five months. I flew there at the beginning of January and did a lot of testing. At the time, we did what we called ‘high-speed’ tests. On the Kenya roads, it was possible to recce everything in a Group A car - so a proper rally car!

I did the recce eight times. That means I did almost 24,000km at rally speed. But Kenya rally speed is a little bit slower than a sprint rally, because the car can not survive.

https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2021/wrc/yoshio-fujimoto-1995-safari-rally-qa/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Thank you Safari Rally Kenya

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5Jc150WEAQHvdX?format=jpg&name=large

[dimviii]

https://twitter.com/sean_cardo/status/1410257538646425603

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rich Millener on How M-Sport battled Rally Kenya from afar:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4EXLMEqWBHRlqTsvctBoVm?si=dFW6ZAptToWB9QLom2OrFQ&dl_branch=1