[WRC] Rally Italia Sardegna 2021

[Andre Oliveira]

https://www.motorsportforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2038&d=1612293950

[AnttiL]

Base relocated to Olbia with a bunch of new stages

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/major-rally-italy-route-change-as-sardinia-base-relocated/

[polomayu]

Nice wake up with monte lerno as ss1.
Seems micky jump in the opposite direction this year.
And the two loops in the morning and two in the afternoon is very nice for the spectators so they don't need to rush to see more than two stages!

[salvadorpv]

Nice wake up with monte lerno as ss1.
Seems micky jump in the opposite direction this year.
And the two loops in the morning and two in the afternoon is very nice for the spectators so they don't need to rush to see more than two stages!

Spectators??????

[AnttiL]

Nice wake up with monte lerno as ss1.
Seems micky jump in the opposite direction this year.

https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-d-Italia-Sardegna-2021

I think Micky's jump features right at the start of SS10/12, which is driven just like in 2020.

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1W4GxDX0AAFWpv?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1W4GxFWYAYnG2a?format=jpg&name=large

[mknight]

No Lappi.

Kinda understandable if he has limited budget and not really aiming for championship there is not much point in doing another rally that is very similar to Portugal.

But that only works if he does well in Portugal, if he doesn't (can be as simple as bad luck early on) Sardinia would work to redeem it. As I wrote before I think there is little point in him "just" doing Estonia/Finland kind of rallies where he has proven before with WRC that he is fast. He has to do those where wasn't fast with WRC to show he is a good choice for full season. That means slower gravel and tarmac.

[Eli]

No Lappi.

Kinda understandable if he has limited budget and not really aiming for championship there is not much point in doing another rally that is very similar to Portugal.

But that only works if he does well in Portugal, if he doesn't (can be as simple as bad luck early on) Sardinia would work to redeem it. As I wrote before I think there is little point in him "just" doing Estonia/Finland kind of rallies where he has proven before with WRC that he is fast. He has to do those where wasn't fast with WRC to show he is a good choice for full season. That means slower gravel and tarmac.

Don't worry, fortunately for him (& us) he has Safari coming up & if he doesn't manage that there's Acropolis in September.

[DoN_cz]

Any news on travelling to Sardinia? Currently it seems very difficult to me....

[Fafe]

Has anyone information about possibilities for spectating next week's rally? I couldn't find anything.... Are there usually tickets? Has anyone experience from last year from 1st COVID impacted Rally Sardegna?

[polomayu]

Didn't go there last year, but for my expirience you only need ticket to spectate ittiri arena(don't know if they run it this year) and a rallypass for vip areas. So all the rally is free!

[Tom K]

You have statements from organizers on their social media. Spectating is allowed. They've told 25% of capacity of each fan zone will be available, but I would not think about it too much. I was last year when spectators were "banned" and nobody has any problem. The only words from police were: Park on the right side, please.

[EstWRC]

Has anyone information about possibilities for spectating next week's rally? I couldn't find anything.... Are there usually tickets? Has anyone experience from last year from 1st COVID impacted Rally Sardegna?

5 minutes of search work and the results are following:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.rallyitaliasardegna.com/2021/05/20/il-rally-italia-sardegna-2021-si-svolgera-a-porte-aperte-ma-con-le-zone-pubblico-al-25-della-capienza/

Spectators admitted at the @Rally_d_Italia 2021. Fan zones with a maximum of 25% of spectators.
Details on http://rallyitaliasardegna.com

Rally ItaliaSardegna @Rally_d_Italia The 4 rules for spectators to follow @Rally_d_Italia 2021.

Choose your spectator areas
Go to the spectator area in advance
Stewards will check remaining capacity at the entrance
Always wear a face mask and maintain social distance


source https://twitter.com/Rally_d_Italia

[Andre Oliveira]

Oliver Solberg misses Rally Italia Sardgena

Oliver Solberg will not start next week’s Rally Italia Sardegna.

Oliver’s father Petter Solberg tested positive for coronavirus on Monday (May 24). The FIA’s Appendix S COVID-19 protocol and national government regulations offer clear quarantine instructions for those in close contact.

Oliver has tested negative repeatedly since Monday, but will remain in quarantine in a hotel in Porto for 14 days.

Oliver had been scheduled to make his second Hyundai i20 Coupe WRC appearance of the season at next week’s Olbia-based World Rally Championship round.

Oliver said: “You can imagine, I am more than disappointed by this news. I am a little bit devastated.

“But you know, we have seen in the last year what coronavirus can do. My papa is doing well with a small fever and I’m thinking to him right now.

“It’s really hard to take now, but the time for my next rally in that amazing Hyundai i20 Coupe WRC will come. We have these rules and regulations for a reason and that reason is to try to stop this thing spreading.

“My family accepts completely what the FIA, the rally organisers, the national governments and medical professionals are telling us. The most important thing is that we keep people safe.”

[AnttiL]

A big disappointment for sure. It would have been a good opportunity to get first stage win or lead a rally with a good starting position. Hopefully a new try in Estonia.

[mknight]

"At the direction of the Portuguese Health Authorities, the whole RedGrey team – which runs Hyundai’s WRC2 concern – is in quarantine until June 4."

What does this mean for Huttunen (and Scandola?), do they have to change cars/team?

I am quite sure it's possible to get well prepared i20 either from the Italian teams or KOWAX that Huttunen often drives for, just wondering what will happen.


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Anyway it kind of again raises the question whether someone else at Hyundai was the source for Veiby and Solberg. (Since Veiby was negative quite a few days after meeting Mikkelsen)

[EstWRC]

what the hell is going on at Hyundai camp with the covid

what a disappointment

[Tom K]

Huttunen has his car prepared by Kowax 2BRally anyway.

[AnttiL]

"At the direction of the Portuguese Health Authorities, the whole RedGrey team – which runs Hyundai’s WRC2 concern – is in quarantine until June 4."

What does this mean for Huttunen (and Scandola?), do they have to change cars/team?

I am quite sure it's possible to get well prepared i20 either from the Italian teams or KOWAX that Huttunen often drives for, just wondering what will happen.


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Anyway it kind of again raises the question whether someone else at Hyundai was the source for Veiby and Solberg. (Since Veiby was negative quite a few days after meeting Mikkelsen)

It could well be Mikkelsen -> Veiby -> Petter Solberg

[mknight]

It could well be Mikkelsen -> Veiby -> Petter Solberg

Yes, but the Mikkelsen -> Veiby delay seems long. (Compared to Veiby ->Solberg).
Might be some middle-person or might be that there is no connection between any of the 3.

[Sulland]

Very few people turn ill more than 8–9 days after being exposed to the virus. This is why the quarantine time is set at 10 days.

Borrowed from a covid site.

[denkimi]

i assume we will see more drivers affected by the stupid rules throughout the year. it could perhaps decide the title fight.

[hari]

Armin Kremer testing for WRC Rally Italia Sardegna: http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_brr_test_vor_wrc_rallye_italia_sardegna_2021 _armin_kremer.html

Video: https://vimeo.com/555418519

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[Rallyper]

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[Lancia Stratos]

Yes, but the Mikkelsen -> Veiby delay seems long. (Compared to Veiby ->Solberg).
Might be some middle-person or might be that there is no connection between any of the 3.

Veiby tested positive 4/5 days after Mikkelsen. Petter Solberg tested positive four days after Veiby. Veiby / Petter Solberg were based with the same team. The link is pretty clear

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WRC - FIA World Rally Championship
@OfficialWRC

Following his strong performance in Portugal, Gus Greensmith will be partnered by Stuart Loudon at Rally d'Italia next month, with regular co-driver Chris Patterson unavailable due to personal reasons.

More :https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/greensmith-changes-co-driver-again-for-rally-italy/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport event preview:
https://www.m-sport.co.uk/single-post/key-roles-reversed-for-m-sport-s-island-adventure

[mknight]

Veiby tested positive 4/5 days after Mikkelsen. Petter Solberg tested positive four days after Veiby. Veiby / Petter Solberg were based with the same team. The link is pretty clear

Mikkelsen tested Friday with sympthoms over night before. Veiby Thursday week after (7 days, after getting sympthoms I don't expected they were in contact), Monday before Veiby supposedly tested negative. Solberg was Monday after (4 days).

Also it was reported officially that Veiby's co-driver was only close contact. (typically the definition is closer to 1 meter for more than a few mins).

Another completely possible explanation is that someone at Hyundai who was both on Sicily and Portugal and was without sympthoms and passing tests( they are not 100%) infected all 3. Or that there was a middle person between any of those 2.

[Lancia Stratos]

Mikkelsen tested Friday with sympthoms over night before. Veiby Thursday week after (7 days, after getting sympthoms I don't expected they were in contact), Monday before Veiby supposedly tested negative. Solberg was Monday after (4 days).

Also it was reported officially that Veiby's co-driver was only close contact. (typically the definition is closer to 1 meter for more than a few mins).

Another completely possible explanation is that someone at Hyundai who was both on Sicily and Portugal and was without sympthoms and passing tests( they are not 100%) infected all 3. Or that there was a middle person between any of those 2.

As I say, the link is quite clear. Mikkelsen and Veiby were together in Spain after Mikkelsen returned home from Targa Florio. The whole reason the RedGrey team has been put in isolation is because two members tested positive in Portugal. Veiby and Petter Solberg.

[AnttiL]

https://itgetsfasternow.com/2021/05/28/route-preview-rally-italia-sardegna-2021/

Here's my route preview. Difficult to write about the new stages (shakedown, one on Saturday, two on Sunday) but at least the rally is looking challenging enough.

[mknight]

Possibly some rain on Sunday.

[mousti]

No Crugnola this week in Sardinia..

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[EstWRC]

https://itgetsfasternow.com/2021/05/28/route-preview-rally-italia-sardegna-2021/

Here's my route preview. Difficult to write about the new stages (shakedown, one on Saturday, two on Sunday) but at least the rally is looking challenging enough.

it seems to be very challenging i would say, the new stages and some new parts on others stages plus the hot weather.

[AnttiL]

No Crugnola this week in Sardinia..

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Because of RedGrey team quarantine?

[PLuto]

Because of RedGrey team quarantine?

Yes

[EstWRC]

like i said already, i think it will be a interesting rally....first time with such a heat with Pirelli tires for everyone, plus many new stages and new parts on old stages.

I rechecked last years results to see how much time the frontrunners lost on first day. Evans started 1st and lost 52 secs, Ogier started 2nd and lost 36 secs and Thierry started 3rd and lost 35 secs. But this time Friday is 30km longer than last year, so i guess the gaps will be even bigger than last year, even Tänaks 4th place doesnt seem that good in this light.

All the previous winning drivers from last 5 years are in Hyundai team right now and Toyota hasnt won this rally yet (although Tänak should have in 19').

I guess the favourite has to be again Sordo, he has won the last two years and has a brilliant starting position, Suninen was doing really good last year until second day and also has a good starting position. He really has to show what he has got this time IMO, Gus and Formaux have shown us the last two rallies that you can set good times with this machine, so definitely there shouldnt be no whining from him like last year every rally.

Katsuta has been on fire lately, can he maybe get his maiden podium here? I wouldnt be surpriesed at all if it happens.

Tänak showed great pace at Portugal but he warned Estonian reporters that it doesnt mean he will be as fast at Sardegna, because the rally has totally different character. But its one of his favourite rallies and has always been very fast here, won the Power Stage last year.

Difficult to predict the winner, as always a lot happens on this tricky rally.

[dimviii]

“It’s difficult to say are we going to be there in terms of pure pace against Hyundai, [especially] when we still have the road cleaning thing. With Séb and Elfyn one-two on the road, we have the worst positions on the worst rally of the season for cleaning.

“We go there looking to match them on pace and with that strategy, but we are also looking to limit the damage, get to the finish and take the points.”

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/toyota-went-miracle-hunting-with-change-to-pre-italy-test/

[meh]

I think we will see again "Friday heroes" using their good start positions and everyone go crazy how good some M-Sport driver (as an example) can be... and then comes Saturday...

[mknight]

Sunday rain looking more and more likely and with 4 days to go the weather prediction is now getting more accurate than random guessing. Now it looks there might also be a small chance of rain on last Saturday stage. Might be a late-rally turnover for Ogier, Evans and co. who are likely among the first on the road by then.

Other than that the biggest question is obviously if the late starters on Friday can really use the advantage (one puncture or mistake and it's all for nothing - Sordo in Turkey 2019 comes to mind) and if it's enough for them not to loose it all on Saturday and Sunday (like Suninen did last year).

[AnttiL]

Sunday rain looking more and more likely and with 4 days to go the weather prediction is now getting more accurate than random guessing. Now it looks there might also be a small chance of rain on last Saturday stage. Might be a late-rally turnover for Ogier, Evans and co. who are likely among the first on the road by then.

Other than that the biggest question is obviously if the late starters on Friday can really use the advantage (one puncture or mistake and it's all for nothing - Sordo in Turkey 2019 comes to mind) and if it's enough for them not to loose it all on Saturday and Sunday (like Suninen did last year).

Anyone hitting trouble on Friday will be first on the road on Saturday, likely it’s not Ogier and Evans.

The rain won’t make a difference, maybe for restarting drivers first on the road on the power stage.

[Rallyper]

Less than 48h to make your Pickems for Sardegna, guys.

[TypeR]

Will be a nice tyre gamble again.. 24 tyres allowed (24 hards, 8 softs)

Warmer weather + rougher roads..

[mknight]

The rain won’t make a difference, maybe for restarting drivers first on the road on the power stage.

(Very) Wet gravel is very much a different surface. Some drivers (and cars) like that more than others. Sordo for example has never been good on wet gravel. So it might cost him the win. On the car side Fiesta was often good on wet gravel and Hyundai often struggles with big setup changes.

[AnttiL]

(Very) Wet gravel is very much a different surface. Some drivers (and cars) like that more than others. Sordo for example has never been good on wet gravel. So it might cost him the win. On the car side Fiesta was often good on wet gravel and Hyundai often struggles with big setup changes.

Well that is true. As well as the tyres.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@AdrienFourmaux

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[Ds3]

@AdrienFourmaux

Before telling you about the Rally Italia Sardegna which starts tomorrow, I would like to draw your attention this evening to a website that many enthusiasts know: http://ewrc-results.com.

A bunch of meticulous enthusiasts who need your financial support.

Looking for info, stats, results, you will undoubtedly find what you are looking for !

You can donate here if you want, as I have done:

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Well, in the world of capitalism, everything is money. Whatever we do this site will get paid, it's only a matter of time. Another one will appear and so on. This is the world in the new time ...

[Fredouye]

Ready for shakedown !

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210603/654cb1d6f0afa77a926869a0dd558bd7.jpg

[mknight]

Weatherforcast now showing rain early Saturday morning and whole Sunday.

[AnttiL]

Wow that's an odd shakedown stage. Quite a bit of tarmac on it

[EstWRC]

very weird indeed, that stage seems far off from the actual rally

[EstWRC]

not surprised at all they cant top the Ogiers time, that tarmac part is getting really dirty

[mknight]

The new PowerStage has quite a bit of tarmac doesn't it?

[AnttiL]

The new PowerStage has quite a bit of tarmac doesn't it?

Yeah there's three small tarmac on power stage and a similar dusty tarmac bit on SS1+3. Also some small tarmac bits on almost every stage...

[drive]

so many spectators...

[TypeR]

Tänak finally back to open-helmet :D

[meh]

Tänak finally back to open-helmet :D

Probably it's too hot there, no point to boil your brain with that.

[EstWRC]

tyre saving already....

[mknight]

Has anyone heard any explanation why Gryazin is not entered in WRC2 classification here?

[Tom K]

His own choice probably. But not going for teams at least is quite surprising. Now he has the same "status" as Oliver Solberg in Monte.

[mknight]

His own choice probably. But not going for teams at least is quite surprising. Now he has the same "status" as Oliver Solberg in Monte.

Gryazin was also "not nominated" in Monte.

It's a bit confusing still. Now on alllive they talk all the time that he is "WRC2" but in all documents and shakedown startlist he is listed as not WRC2.

That should mean that he starts tomorrow after all WRC2 and all WRC3 which would mean very different road conditions (cleaner from soft gravel, but also likely very rough)

[Tom K]

He was nominated for Teams and was not for Drivers/Co-drivers.

[EstWRC]

if anybody is wondering where is Kalles time then he was having some problems already and returned to service

[pantealex]

Gryazin was also "not nominated" in Monte.

It's a bit confusing still. Now on alllive they talk all the time that he is "WRC2" but in all documents and shakedown startlist he is listed as not WRC2.

That should mean that he starts tomorrow after all WRC2 and all WRC3 which would mean very different road conditions (cleaner from soft gravel, but also likely very rough)

He is "P2" just like Oliver has done. And will get "TV-time"
But not for any points.

[mknight]

He is "P2" just like Oliver has done. And will get "TV-time"
But not for any points.

I was wondering about the starting position. But it seems that in monte he and Solberg actually did start with WRC2 point scorers on normal stages, just not on PS. Then it's more ok for him to compare speed.

[pantealex]

I was wondering about the starting position. But it seems that in monte he and Solberg actually did start with WRC2 point scorers on normal stages, just not on PS. Then it's more ok for him to compare speed.

Yes.

All P2 drivers start before P3 (WRC3) drivers.

[EstWRC]

Kalle finally got a time onboard

[dupanton]

Problems with power steering before the first run

[EstWRC]

Ogier seems to really like this stage, on every run with the fastest time

[mknight]

Ogier seems to really like this stage, on every run with the fastest time

He is usually good on tarmac with gravel tires (like that stage on Friday in Catalunya used to be). So he should do well on PS here.

[EstWRC]

and Tänak ruined it now

[AnttiL]

He is usually good on tarmac with gravel tires (like that stage on Friday in Catalunya used to be). So he should do well on PS here.

This is a completely different "tarmac on gravel tires", here it's a narrow and rugged road with a lot of dust and rocks on top. In Catalunya it's like a racing circuit with kerbs, not much pollution. In Catalunya he's good because he can preserve the tyres. After that tarmac stretch you have still many kilometres to go on gravel.

EDIT: I didn't notice you meant the power stage. Well, that's also a narrow road which will likely get polluted, and the stage is so short that there's no tyre preserving issues.

[EstWRC]

Suninen got up to speed finally :D

[wyler]

I like it. it's nice that sardinia adds some flavor. maybe they want to add some uniqueness (like some hidden mixed surface character) to stay in the calendar for the future...

[EstWRC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0yyz9O_mT0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uQannqcc_g

[PLuto]

Gryazin was also "not nominated" in Monte.

It's a bit confusing still. Now on alllive they talk all the time that he is "WRC2" but in all documents and shakedown startlist he is listed as not WRC2.

That should mean that he starts tomorrow after all WRC2 and all WRC3 which would mean very different road conditions (cleaner from soft gravel, but also likely very rough)

No. Gryazin is P2, only not scoring points in WRC2. So starting order will be normal.

[EstWRC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hBOBmX8tEA

[dimviii]

"This is the usual refrain for me: we arrive at an event where we will certainly have great difficulties in opening the road. Over time, I learned to take a step back from this situation. I put it into perspective, but we knows it's not going to be a pleasant weekend. It's going to be difficult to find portions to our advantage. It's no use torturing your mind with this, you'll have to fight and take risks to go look for points despite everything, "says Sébastien Ogier at our microphone.



The French still occupies the head of the world championship. He won in Sardinia in 2013, 2014 and 2015. "I haven't won for a few years here, partly because of the sweep, but also because there were some fights, like with Neuville in 2018. The Power Stage completely stoned is no longer there, I admit I won't miss it. They announce little wind, we risk being far from the outposts from the first day. There are quite a few difficulties with it. the tires now. There are concerns about their survival this weekend. No one is immune, but if there are unforeseen events with the tires, maybe it can help us to compensate for the fact of opening the road. We changed things on the car from Portugal. I'm confident enough to say that it will be better here, "he continues.

Before concluding: "We are expecting a lot of heat, but there are not too many long specials this year. Physically, I am not preparing myself more specifically for this rally than for another. It is a regular training. I'm not worried, it should do it. I'm not too much of a runner. For cardio, I prefer cycling. I see a coach regularly to do muscle building and avoid pain suffered by the body with shocks and constraints."
https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_wrc-sardaigne-sebastien-ogier-je-relativise-mais-on-sait-que-ca-ne-va-pas-etre-un-week-end-agreable?id=10774963

[dimviii]

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2021/photos/rally-italia-sardegna_2021/mhl_9b2a4705.jpg

more
https://www.ewrc-results.com/photo/68112-rally-italia-sardegna-2021/

[denkimi]

After all those years we still have ogier complaining that he's in the lead of the championship.

Perhaps he could try to crash out some in monte carlo more if he doesn't like to be at the front.

[EstWRC]

https://youtu.be/Ijdl6eMiMKw

[EstWRC]

Dirtfish preview with Breen https://youtu.be/x50Es7g7I7o

[EstWRC]

After all those years we still have ogier complaining that he's in the lead of the championship.

Perhaps he could try to crash out some in monte carlo more if he doesn't like to be at the front.

Well he could also win some time tomorrow.

Many are predicting that SS2 will have dust problems if there isn’t no wind at all.

[mknight]

Well first thing to watch in the morning is if someone takes softs.

Maybe Ogier will cause he is good at saving tires and is first anyway, but for others it's probably not very likely because:
- second pass on same tires in the same section before service, will be much rougher on the tires
- warmer than in Portugal
- looks like a lot of rain possible during the night from Friday to Saturday and showers whole Sunday, so they will very likely need softs for 2 sections and maybe also for Saturday afternoon

[Tauri_J]

There will be guys with softs, pretty sure about it

[Rallyper]

Morning, everyone! Sunny weather in Sweden and22-25 degrees forecast for whole weekend. What a nice way to stay inhouse... Let´s go!!!

[Fredouye]

Let the rally begin !

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210604/17b378b2dda12067741414eb95a23969.jpg

[EstWRC]

Ogier a little wide and softly in the bank in fast right hander

[Tom K]

Prokop problems with starting the engine in PF

[EstWRC]

Evans +0.9 in spl1

[Rally Hokkaido]

Good afternoon (in Japan) everyone. Looking forward to this longish first stage (expecting some Incident!)

[EstWRC]

man Evans all over the place, the car sliding a lot

[Rallyper]

So many sharp edges in tarmac corners...

[Rallyper]

Those big stones right in the beginning of stage looks huge and will for sure damage coming cars...

Looks one of them had came off from the others

[EstWRC]

wow Ott

[Allez Andruet]

Vintage Tänak!

[EstWRC]

Ott basically made half the gap with first split

[mknight]

Rovanpera is similar.
With road cleaning you'd expect times like that, so it's maybe more that Evans and Neuville are strangely slow.

[EstWRC]

9.6 faster than Ogier in the end but it was 4.9 already in first split

[Lead]

Huge rocks already out on the road.

[AnttiL]

Tänak Attack!

Quite big gaps but remember this is the longest stage of the rally!

Kristian Sohlberg said SS2+4 will be the most tricky one, let's see what drama is ahead. And both the afternoon stages are highly technical and tricky...

[Lead]

Not a fastest start from Sordo

[EstWRC]

i really hope they listen to Ott

i dont want any dust issues for the drivers after Ogier. You could just see from Sordos onboard there was even some already on this one on some corners, and its very open stage and Evans had full sun and dust at one corner

[AnttiL]

Greensmith with a small ditch excursion, losing a lot time throughout the stage.

[Rallyper]

Suninen off!!

[Tauri_J]

another SS1 exit, oh dear Teemu

[er88]

Suninen off.

Awful for his WRC future.

[Portimao]

Suninen's career should end here

[Rallyper]

If they´re lucky they might go on again. But speed looked high, so...

[AnttiL]

Suninen off.

Awful for his WRC future.

And this time, not even setting good splits.

Trying to get moving again.

[Rallyper]

Steamlock in fuel

[erikli2]

Wasn't even close to make that corner with that entry speed. Miss heard pacenote maybe..

[Rallyper]

There´s gonna be changes in the MSport drivers line...

[mknight]

Mikkelsen on hards.

[Rallyper]

Let´s see how far Gryazin will go in this rally...

[EstWRC]

i have to say its an awesome stage time from Ogier considering his starting position

[er88]

There´s gonna be changes in the MSport drivers line...You think?

Fourmaux and Greensmith + one other for next year. Rolls eyes.....

[EstWRC]

Gryazin with puncture

[er88]

Gryazin with a puncture

[TypeR]

Fourmaux w no handbrake..

[AnttiL]

i have to say its an awesome stage time from Ogier considering his starting position

No dust :)

[Rallyper]

You think?

Fourmaux and Greensmith + one other for next year. Rolls eyes.....

Fourmaux yes. Greensmith, yes - if he pays. Suninen no. One or two seats open.

[er88]

Decent first stage time for Fourmaux considering his lack of gravel experience in general + being 8months out of the R5 on gravel. Ostberg impressive

[rp]

Just like Mercedes is doing for Bottas in F1, M-Sport is doing everything not to support Suninen, when neeeded. No testing at all before this event and 1st time with Pirelli on gravel driving World Rally Car. Of course he should have driven more slowly, because not used to the tyres.

[doubled1978]

Have to feel for him, but it’s a bad mistake. Two first stage offs already...not good.

[TypeR]

Just like Mercedes is doing for Bottas in F1, M-Sport is doing everything not to support Suninen, when neeeded. No testing at all before this event and 1st time with Pirelli on gravel driving World Rally Car. Of course he should have driven more slowly, because not used to the tyres.

lol, everything not to support him? two offs on SS1s this year.. I'm pretty sure Wilson or Rich would like to see him finish the rally, not being in a ditch..

[Rallyper]

Suninen 2 - Rovanpera 1 ...

[EstWRC]

3 minutes gaps still

as i understand the problematic place is at the end of the stage

[er88]

3 minutes gaps still

as i understand the problematic place is at the end of the stageYeah looks ok just now, let's see towards the end

[AnttiL]

Huttunen's first stage time of the season, fourth in WRC2, a tenth behind Mikkelsen.

[dimviii]

there is the tyre choice,dont remember if we post it.

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_06_2021/post-157-0-25958900-1622789277.jpg

[EstWRC]

wow Evans and Neuville losing again to Ogier

[dimviii]

wow Evans and Neuville losing again to Ogier

and loosing a lot.

[masa90]

Oh dear Teemu :(

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3BPEGFXMAAXYmK?format=jpg&name=large

[krissucool]

Evans and Neuville snailing it in.

[er88]

Ogier driving so well

[Rallyper]

Big disappointment from Neuville. Long rally to go, but...

[meh]

Everyone should be worried for tomorrow already, if Ogier have equal road position, he may dominate clearly.

[AnttiL]

Very surprising pace from Ogier indeed.

[EstWRC]

lets see, i remember from the past as well odd stages where the frontrunners actually arent losing much

Ott didnt seem to bi satisfied with the car after this one

[EstWRC]

really surprised by the off pace from Sordo, Evans and Neuville

[flat_right]

Was it a car? I mean he said that there were a lot of surprises but it may be stage related (dust, slippery, stones etc). I mean 2 stage wins, massively better than Neuville and Sordo, so I don't know...

[dimviii]

Rovanpera stalled,thats why he lost 3,3 sec from Ogier after last split

[meh]

What happened to Kaur?

https://www.ewrc-results.com/media/68112-rally-italia-sardegna-2021/3303/

Was good in split4, only Ostberg was faster then him. Such a shame.

[dimviii]

Kaur

https://www.wrc.com/?proxy=redaktion/Season-2021-NEWS/WRC/June/Italy-live-text/040621_Kaur_SS1.jpeg

[EstWRC]

man he has no luck at all, all the time something happening

Unfortunately, there was a rock on the line near the end of the stage. We hit it and it damaged the front left wheel.

We will do our best with the repairs but it doesn't look good.

[Rallyper]

Dimviii. You´re the best. You have full control. :)

[TypeR]

Doesn't seem anything to repair there.. fk..

[dimviii]

Dimviii. You´re the best. You have full control. :)

strugling with tyre choice,but i will do my best.

[AnttiL]

Greensmith already missing Chris Patterson?

EDIT: I mean, Greensmith is already feeling the effects of Patterson being gone for this event?

[TypeR]

Greensmith already missing Chris Patterson?
Couldn't join due to some personal stuff..(this rally only)

[er88]

Dust looks to be a bit worse for wrc2 cars due to 2min gaps

[EstWRC]

hahahahaha mind games going on between Ostberg and MIkkelsen

[er88]

Ostberg turning the screw on Mikkelsen

[AnttiL]

Couldn't join due to some personal stuff..(this rally only)

I know but his pace here is again horrible

[EstWRC]

man msport having a nightmare so far

[meh]

Not good morning for M-Sport.

[Lead]

hahahahaha mind games going on between Ostberg and MIkkelsen

This will be fun weekend between them :)

[flat_right]

hahahahaha mind games going on between Ostberg and MIkkelsen

What did they say? :D I saw Ostberg's interview but not Mikkelsen's.

[bomber21]

This will be fun weekend between them :)
Is there a reason for this rivalry? Not often we see such things in rallying these days.

[mknight]

Is there a reason for this rivalry? Not often we see such things in rallying these days.

I don't know the exact reason bare speculations but there certainly is some history. I wrote it up here:
https://www.motorsportforums.com/showthread.php?41356-Wrc-2-3-2021&p=1272231&viewfull=1#post1272231

[TypeR]

Is there a reason for this rivalry? Not often we see such things in rallying these days.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Flag_of_Norway.svg/512px-Flag_of_Norway.svg.png

[er88]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Flag_of_Norway.svg/512px-Flag_of_Norway.svg.pngAlso have to factor in Mikkelsen's "I want to dominate all the R5s on every rally" comments too. Mads already spoken about that.

[EstWRC]

Also have to factor in Mikkelsen's "I want to dominate all the R5s on every rally" comments too. Mads already spoken about that.

that seems the main reason for me

[Lead]

Huttunen only 3.5sec off Ostberg's pace in SS2

[mknight]

that seems the main reason for me

Nope, it's been like this for years.

Also when Mikkelsen said it Mads just got dominated in Monza.



Huttunen only 3.5sec off Ostberg's pace in SS2

He had really quick last split.

[dimviii]

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_06_2021/post-26893-0-77254300-1622795875.jpg

[dimviii]

Kaur Motorsport
@KaurMotorsport
·
5m
The front left wheel just came off the car as we approached the end of the stage. Gutted..

[EstWRC]

https://twitter.com/cicles7/status/1400726184929992704?s=20

[EstWRC]

very hard hits for the car on some places, Ogier shaking like a leaf on those places

[Tauri_J]

Did Ogier just glide over some huge rocks lol

[EstWRC]

yeah totally

it seems Thierry has made some good changes

[mknight]

I like this "mini loop" with repeated stages before service, means you can get bigger changes of performance even within the loop than usual.

[EstWRC]

Sordo also woke up, just 0.5 in first split

[EstWRC]

Kalle and Sordo with tyre problem, Kalle had delamination and i didnt actually get what Sordo said but it seems he is struggling again to save the tires like in POrtugal

[meh]

Stage4 delayed

[Rallyper]

Stage4 delayed

Any reason?

[EstWRC]

dont know but thats a lot already, 10 minutes so far

[AnttiL]

Miikka Anttila on YLE says that Suninen's car seemed to stall weirdly under braking so it could be a technical issue. Hopefully we find out later...

[wyler]

fourmeaux crash:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BV5G5V_uIU&feature=youtu.be

[EstWRC]

Miikka Anttila on YLE says that Suninen's car seemed to stall weirdly under braking so it could be a technical issue. Hopefully we find out later...

it looked weird indeed

Stage live now

[mknight]

fourmeaux crash:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BV5G5V_uIU&feature=youtu.be

Huh, so the "crash" wasn't caused by the off but by breaking the left-front wheel at some point before the corner.

[wyler]

Huh, so the "crash" wasn't caused by the off but by breaking the left-front wheel at some point before the corner.

not clear, but I was thinking the same...

[mknight]

not clear, but I was thinking the same...

That wheel is basically only in the air when he is in view so it must have happened before imo. But it's like almost the first real corner of the stage.

[Rallyper]

Huh, so the "crash" wasn't caused by the off but by breaking the left-front wheel at some point before the corner.

For sure. The steering was also bent it looked.

[EstWRC]

Great morning from Ogier

[Tauri_J]

Huh, so the "crash" wasn't caused by the off but by breaking the left-front wheel at some point before the corner.

he clipped the inside of the corner, wrc+ showed it

[EstWRC]

problems for Kalle

[Rallyper]

Kalle, Kalle ...

[erikli2]

Haha oh please, Thierry says he will have a big accident if he doesn't get a paddle to shift the gears with next year. Jesus.

[Rallyper]

I strongly believe this rally is a matter of experience more than speed...

[Francis44]

Haha oh please, Thierry says he will have a big accident if he doesn't get a paddle to shift the gears with next year. Jesus.
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[EstWRC]

Ogier and TÄnaks onboard look so smooth, Evans compared to them is all over the place, didnt see Thierry much

[Rallyper]

helmet off for Kalle.

[AnttiL]

Haha oh please, Thierry says he will have a big accident if he doesn't get a paddle to shift the gears with next year. Jesus.

For sure, he will have less time to use the handbrake

[mknight]

From leading the championship Rovanpera will now get 2 to 7 (if he wins PS) points from 3 rallies. Almost can't get any worse.

[mknight]

Mikkelsen managed to roll in first corner.

[Rallyper]

And Mikkelsen on the side 300 m after start...

[er88]

Dear o dear Mikkelsen.

[wyler]

Haha oh please, Thierry says he will have a big accident if he doesn't get a paddle to shift the gears with next year. Jesus.

not really. he said in general that will be hard to keep the steering wheel with one hand, because of big feedback, and this can cause crashes...

surely an exaggeration

[Rallyper]

I would say all drivers having pressure on their shoulders coming to this rally, have failed on the very first leg. Suninen, Fourmaux, Kalle, Mikkelsen...

[er88]

I would say all drivers having pressure on their shoulders coming to this rally, have failed on the very first leg. Suninen, Fourmaux, Kalle, Mikkelsen...Yeah agree with that, although I don't think Fourmaux has any pressure.

He has a different level of experience to these guys and has a seat for next year due to potential and backing

[Rallyper]

Yeah agree with that, although I don't think Fourmaux has any pressure.

He has a different level of experience to these guys and has a seat for next year due to potential and backing

Agree partly on Fourmaux, but who´s the driver NOT putting pressure on himself in his situation as well?

[Rallyper]

Gryazin seems to be out. Engineproblems on last stage.

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen after roll
https://twitter.com/Rally_d_Italia/status/1400763200602247169

[dimviii]

broken suspension for Kalle?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3B-Y2hXEAAAguq?format=png&name=900x900

[mknight]

Well on that stage: Rovanpera retired, Mikkelsen rolled, Gryazin stopped like 3 times and lost 14 min, Lindmae retired..and Fourmaux retired in first pass. Some drama stage.

I'd also agree that "everyone" with pressure failed in some way.

[dimviii]

Well on that stage: Rovanpera retired, Mikkelsen rolled, Gryazin stopped like 3 times and lost 14 min, Lindmae retired..and Fourmaux retired in first pass. Some drama stage.
.

+Lindholm

[rp]

+Lindholm

What do you mean?

[mknight]

Lindholm was seemingly stopped on the map just after Linnamae for very long time, then teleported to the end and got decent time.

[dimviii]

sorry guys just read at wrc.com that he had stopped,but didnt notice that he continue


Lindholm stopped

The WRC3 challenger is stopped 7.4km after the start of SS4.

[rp]

sorry guys just read at wrc.com that he had stopped,but didnt notice that he continue


Ok. Anyone knows what happened to Linnamäe?

[cali]

Haha oh please, Thierry says he will have a big accident if he doesn't get a paddle to shift the gears with next year. Jesus.He didn't say he but "we will have many crashes" as in general... Very estonian way to call Thierry a crybaby but maybe some of you should start to listen and understand a bit more and quit whining about Thierry! Jesus! :facepalm:

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[dimviii]

https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?height=314&href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fpaulfraikinc hampions%2Fvideos%2F258885792696858%2F&show_text=false&width=560&t=0

[AnttiL]

So it's likely that first cars on the road tomorrow are Suninen, Rovanperä, Loubet and Greensmith. Not much cleaning to do for the championship contenders.

[Tom K]

Mikkelsen out - rollcage.

[AnttiL]

Mikkelsen out - rollcage.

Wow, seemed like a very gentle roll...

[mknight]

So it's likely that first cars on the road tomorrow are Suninen, Rovanperä, Loubet and Greensmith. Not much cleaning to do for the championship contenders.

It will likely rain during the night so what position will be best is hard to say at this point.

[EstWRC]

It will likely rain during the night so what position will be best is hard to say at this point.

so far youre the only one i have seen who is talking about rain, havent seen mentioned elsewhere

weird the Mikkelsen one, wasnt even a hard roll

[mknight]

so far youre the only one i have seen who is talking about rain, havent seen mentioned elsewhere



https://www.ilmeteo.it/meteo/Olbia

https://www.yr.no/en/forecast/daily-table/2-3172087/Italy/Sardinia/Provincia%20di%20Sassari/Olbia

[AnttiL]

I would imagine light rain makes it more equal for everyone, but likely still loose gravel to be swept for the first cars. Then if it's a heavy rain turning the road to mud, it will polish and become more slippery for later runners.

[Sulland]

Was it a film of the Mikkelsen roll?

[rp]

Was it a film of the Mikkelsen roll?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khECiUSuUUw

&

https://twitter.com/Rally_d_Italia/status/1400763200602247169

[EstWRC]

4 minute gaps now

[dimviii]

very slow stage just 71,8 km/h average for Ogier

[Tauri_J]

That rain wont even help against dust. Sunday looks like proper rain.

[EstWRC]

very weird this year

it doesnt seem to clean as lot at as previous years, is it the pirelli tires or something or OGIER going full bananas?

[dimviii]

very weird this year

it doesnt seem to clean as lot at as previous years, is it the pirelli tires or something or OGIER going full bananas?

that Ogier doing an amazing job there is no question,but have in mind that gravel as tarmac,is not the same every year.

[dimviii]

tyre choices?

[EstWRC]

that Ogier doing an amazing job there is no question,but have in mind that gravel as tarmac,is not the same every year.

Sordo who has leading last year with 30+ secs can now hardly beat Ogier

[EstWRC]

tyre choices?

basivally same as in the morning

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3CprA8WUAoSQZw?format=jpg&name=small

[mknight]

That's a lot of softs for the warmest afternoon so far this year. How come when after Portugal someone mentioned that they were worried how the tires last on warm rallies?

[EstWRC]

lol nobody seems to like this stage

[Rallyper]

Now Gryazin stopped again on SS5...

[mknight]

Looked like engine fail.

[mknight]

Huttunen is faster than Tanak between split 1 and 2.

[meh]

Suspension failure for Rovenperä (from interview from All-live)

[EstWRC]

shame about Kalle, mechanical then

[dimviii]

Huttunen is faster than Tanak between split 1 and 2.

must be a glitch

edit almost every wrc 2 faster from Ogier and Tanak between these splits?

[mknight]

must be a glitch

Nope. Gryazin also faster by 0.1s, Østberg 0.2 s slower.

After all this is the stage where Solberg and Fourmaux beat quite a few WRC cars last year.

[dimviii]

Nope. Gryazin also faster by 0.1s, Østberg 0.2 s slower.

After all this is the stage where Solberg and Fourmaux beat quite a few WRC cars last year.

probably a very slow part,plenty other cars close to Ogier and Tanak,even Prokop Rossel Ciamin .Kajto Ingram faster too.

[dimviii]

Kalle Rovanperä
@KalleRovanpera

Sadly we're forced to retire for today due to suspension damage suffered on SS4. We don't know how or why it broke since I didn't hit it anywhere.
Team will investigate the car once it gets back to service and hopefully get it fixed so we get to continue tomorrow! #KR69


Jari Huttunen
@HuttunenRacing

Flag of United Kingdom "I`m quite happy for our morning loop. Few mistakes and three broken rims, but nothing serious so far."

[EstWRC]

basically identical splits from previous stage in spl1

[EstWRC]

nice one Dani!

[meh]

I think Dani got tired and annoyed to save tires and went fot it. Based on stage-end interview, he clearly does not like this tire-saving mode.

[the sniper]

Kris Meeke talking about needing clear, concise pace notes... I could barely ever decipher the notes he had being rapid fired at him! :D

[er88]

Kris Meeke talking about needing clear, concise pace notes... I could barely ever decipher the notes he had being rapid fired at him! :DLaughed at that too lol.

[AnttiL]

Huttunen is faster than Tanak between split 1 and 2.

Very slow and narrow sections favor Rally2 cars

[AnttiL]

WRC2 is a bit boring now, we just wait if someone gets a puncture or an issue, otherwise the situation likely won't change

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3C6wCQXIAgMs57?format=jpg&name=large