Rally Hungary 2020

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Star-studded entry:
https://www.fiaerc.com/star-studded-line-up-for-erc-rally-hungary/

[RS]

Excellent entry!

First ERC start for Solberg with Skoda, I presume as a warm up for Ypres.

[Jarek Z]

Very good entry list. I can see at least 4 drivers that should fight for victory in this rally.

[Jarek Z]

Melegari is back in a Subaru. I guess Alpine was too difficult to drive?
https://www.fiaerc.com/erc2-title-contender-melegari-marches-on-a-champion/

[PLuto]

Excellent entry!

First ERC start for Solberg with Skoda, I presume as a warm up for Ypres.

But not car from Skoda Motorsport...

[PLuto]

Melegari is back in a Subaru. I guess Alpine was too difficult to drive?
https://www.fiaerc.com/erc2-title-contender-melegari-marches-on-a-champion/

It is more about character of the stages. And also weather can be important as everybody has still in their memory last year with lot of mud and water. And for these conditions, 4WD Subaru is much better, for sure. Zelindo likes the Alpine in Fafe and return to the car for Canarias is possible.

[RS]

But not car from Skoda Motorsport...

And no longer as a warm up for Ypres lol.

Which team is he with?

[PLuto]

And no longer as a warm up for Ypres lol.

Which team is he with?

It was not warm up for Ypres, but fight for title in ERC (and ERC1 Junior). I dont want to reveal the name of the team, I will leave it on crew/team to announce it. Or you will see on beginning of the next week after pictures from test :)

[RS]

It was not warm up for Ypres, but fight for title in ERC (and ERC1 Junior).

Yes, I know he is doing that too but I thought the switch to the Skoda might be to get used to it more on asphalt?

[YerayEcoBoost]

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[Ciko]

These crews will be participate on the official test:

#1. Miko Marczyk, Szymon Gospodarczyk (Skoda Fabia Rallye2 EVO)
#2. Nikolay Gryazin, Konstantin Aleksandrov (Hyundai i20 R5)
#3. Grégoire Munster, Louis Louka (Hyudani i20 R5)
#4. Pieter Jan Michiel Cracco, Jasper Vermeulen (Skoda Fabia R5)
#5. Turán Frigyes, Bagaméri László (Volkswagen Polo R5)
#6. Craig Breen, Paul Nagle (Hyundai i20 R5)
#7. Emil Lindholm, Mikael Korhonen (Škoda Fabia Rally2 Evo)
#8. Juhász Csaba, Juhász Zsolt (Peugeot 208 Rally4)
#9. Hangodi Bendegúz, Patkó Gábor (Peugeot 208 R2)
#10. Ken Torn, Kauri Pannas (Ford Fiesta Rally4)
#11. Dominik Dinkel, Ursula Mayrhofer (Skoda Fabia Rallye2 EVO)
#12. Ifj. Érdi Tibor, Csökő Zoltán (Mitsubishi Lancer EVO X)
#13. Hadik András, Kertész Krisztián (Ford Fiesta R5 MKII)
#14. Trencsényi József, Verba Gábor (Skoda Fabia R5)
#15. László Martin, Zsíros Gábor (Ford Fiesta R2T)
#16. Joshua McErlean, Keaton Williams (Hyundai i20 R5)
#17. Callum Devine, James Fulton (Hyundai i20 R5)
#18. Muresan Mihnea George, Pop Alina Bianca (Fiat 124 Abarth RGT)
#19. Simon Wagner, Gerald Winter (Skoda Fabia Rally2 Evo)
#20. Amaury Molle, Florian Barral (Peugeot 208 R2)
#21. Nikolaus Mayr-Melnhof, Leopold Welsersheimb (Ford Fiesta R5 MKII)
#22. Bonato Yoann, Boulloud Benjamin (Citroen C3 R5)
#23. Ola Nore jun, Veronica Engan (Renault Clio Rally5)
#24. Rachele Somaschini, Giulia Zanchetta (Renault Clio Rally5)
#25. Marijan Griebel, Pirmin Winklhofer (Citroen C3 R5)
#26. Alexey Lukyanuk, Dmitry Eremeev (Citroen C3 R5)
#27. Efrén Liarena, Sara Fernández (Citroen C3 R5)
#28. Vogel Adrienn, Notheisz Ivett (Ford Fiesta Rally4)
#29. Erik Cais, Jindriska Zakova (Ford Fiesta R5 MK II)
#30. Josep Bassas, Axel Coronado (Peugeot 208 Rally4)
#31. Vizelli Károly, Nagy Péter (Skoda Fabia R5)
#32. Fekete László, Begala Tamás (Ford Fiesta Rally4)
#33. Balogh János, Holczer Dániel (Ford Fiesta R5 MKII)

[Tom K]

So, one top crew out of start list.

[Ciko]

And no longer as a warm up for Ypres lol.

Which team is he with?
Here is the answer (sorry but only in hungarian language), he starts with Eurosol Racing Team’s Fabia R5:

https://rallycafemagazin.hu/solberg-ismeros-skodaval-all-rajthoz-a-rally-hungaryn

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://www.fiaerc.com/erc-rally-hungary-talking-points/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

More on Solberg's Eurosol team-mate, Simon Wagner:

http://www.automobilsport.com/race-categories--24/race-categories--24,215155,Simon-Wagner-back-in-Hungary-Rally-to-prove-talent-in-ERC,news.htm

[dimviii]

Ruben Perez
@RubnPerez
Despite being registered, Mads Ostberg and Nikolay Gryazin will NOT contest the #RallyHungary this week.

The Norwegian will not be there because this test was going to be taken as a test for @ypresrally
and the Russian for readjustments suffered by the area in which he lives due to # COVID19. #ERC

[YerayEcoBoost]

Mikkelsen/Fløene
Fabia Rally2 evo
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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Solberg's Eurosol Skoda: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/El5UQ-TXYAA_JFs?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Ciko]

Mikkelsen and Velenczei were testing today:
https://youtu.be/AJLHxP1ylVc

Mikkelsen"s car is a brand new, never was used before.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Solberg test:

https://youtu.be/s20DuSYxMR4

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://i.imgur.com/nUIhjVu.jpg

[RS]

Ruben Perez
@RubnPerez
Despite being registered, Mads Ostberg and Nikolay Gryazin will NOT contest the #RallyHungary this week.

The Norwegian will not be there because this test was going to be taken as a test for @ypresrally
and the Russian for readjustments suffered by the area in which he lives due to # COVID19. #ERC

Shame, but still a good entry without them.

[Jarek Z]

Judging from car livery and Solberg's press realease Skoda have increased their support for him?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/El5UQ-TXYAA_JFs?format=jpg&name=900x900

https://www.fiaerc.com/hungary-erc1-junior-solberg-ready-to-czech-out-his-fabia-new-car/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mads Østberg @MadsOstberg

In Hungary but not for the rally unfortunately. As the WRC calender changed our test plan changed as well. I'm here to support some of the other Citroën drivers and I hope they do well. Hope to be back behind the wheel soon.

[Tom K]

Simone Tempestini tested positive for COVID-19 :( He did not left Romania and obviously won't start.

[Ciko]

Nice footage from today's test (includes Lukyanuk mistake)

https://youtu.be/WzdOLx68EaU

[kiil]

Nice footage from today's test (includes Lukyanuk mistake)

https://youtu.be/WzdOLx68EaU

Nice, maybe. Alarming would be a fitting word as well.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Same test but better quality and angles:

https://youtu.be/BXr8SqCwiuY

Another with some night action:

https://youtu.be/Tl8EjxwImB8

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Proper Solberg test video:

https://youtu.be/sjWtDoj_FHQ

Mikkelsen

https://youtu.be/5Hfadf55QM4

[Sulland]

Interesting surface in Hungary. Seems to be a combo of tarmac, asphalt and oil-gravel, in addition to some loose gravel as it looks from the testroads.
Tyre choice will play its part, and maybe also tyre brand.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmESQOSX0AIFR8h?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

Luky's not too impressed though... :D

https://i.imgur.com/nC8KCum.jpg

[Mirek]

Interesting surface in Hungary. Seems to be a combo of tarmac, asphalt and oil-gravel, in addition to some loose gravel as it looks from the testroads.
Tyre choice will play its part, and maybe also tyre brand.

You forgot water if it rains :) The concrete roads in the wineyeards have V shape and the water stands in them like in a river. Last year the sailing through them was crazy spectacular but sure mad like hell for the crews.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@Oliver Solberg
Today was recce day at Rally Hungary. Based on the mud on our recce car it's hard to believe it's a tarmac rally !

@CallumDevine27
Day 1 of recce nearly complete here at Rally Hungary. Going by the conditions today it looks like it’s going to be another crazy rally !

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yoann Bonato
To be honest, I have never seen such conditions on so many stages. Between the mud and the leaves, we haven't seen the color of the asphalt yet. Michelin do you have a solution for us ?!

[RS]

Proper Solberg test video:

https://youtu.be/sjWtDoj_FHQ

Mikkelsen

https://youtu.be/5Hfadf55QM4

Solberg video sped up?

These Fabias sounding rather raspy!

[Jarek Z]

Yoann Bonato
To be honest, I have never seen such conditions on so many stages. Between the mud and the leaves, we haven't seen the color of the asphalt yet. Michelin do you have a solution for us ?!

A picture is worth a 1000 words. Have a look at the photos that Bonato posted on Facebook :)
https://www.facebook.com/YoannBonatoOfficiel/posts/10157866799986478

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Solberg video sped up?

These Fabias sounding rather raspy!

Looks ok to me. And he's way faster than the other's testing with his test road being much cleaner.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Press Conf live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tWS2ouXVJk

[Fast Eddie WRC]

You forgot water if it rains :) The concrete roads in the wineyeards have V shape and the water stands in them like in a river.

Like this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmIcb2VWMAAKcGg?format=jpg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmIT6e1XUAAccdR?format=jpg&name=medium

[Jarek Z]

Fortunately, weather forecast for the rally doesn't look bad:
https://www.yr.no/place/Hungary/Szabolcs-Szatm%C3%A1r-Bereg/Ny%C3%ADregyh%C3%A1za/hour_by_hour.html

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Live coverage SS5, SS7, SS10 & SS16:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmJGBDcX0AER24J?format=jpg&name=medium

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ostberg been helping a local driver:

http://www.rallyfans.hu/mads-ostberggel-tesztelt-csucsu-a-rally-hungary-erc-futamra/

[tommeke_B]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/disappointed-in-myself-if-i-dont-win-hungary-mikkelsen/

Mikkelsen putting some pressure on himself. I think he might be disappointed...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/disappointed-in-myself-if-i-dont-win-hungary-mikkelsen/

Mikkelsen putting some pressure on himself. I think he might be disappointed...

Maybe, but Lukyanuk & Solberg both have a Championship to win (o/a and ERC1 Junior) and may be more careful.

[Jarek Z]

Live coverage SS5, SS7, SS10 & SS16

Thanks! But is there no TV broadcast on Eurosport anymore?

[dimviii]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/disappointed-in-myself-if-i-dont-win-hungary-mikkelsen/

Mikkelsen putting some pressure on himself. I think he might be disappointed...
he has a good car,good tyres,and he hasnt got to care about points,so he must be faster in theory.

[Jarek Z]

Yes. With Ostberg and Gryazin out, Lukyanuk and Solberg taking care about points, Mikkelsen seems to be the main favourite for the win, doesn't he?

[tommeke_B]

he has a good car,good tyres,and he hasnt got to care about points,so he must be faster in theory.

Solberg is far behind in the championship, if he wants a chance to win the title, he has to push. Mikkelsen hasn't done an event all year long. Some (tyre development) testing mileage isn't the same as Oliver Solberg who has done 8 events, including good preparation for each of them. Luky is far ahead in the championship, so in theory he can cruise, but he did the event last year so has some knowledge, as most of the roads have been used last year too. Then there are some other drivers who could surprise. Munster has had a good season so far, improving his pace every event. The roads in Hungary have quite a lot of things in common with the roads in his own region, and he's only just behind Oliver Solberg in Junior ERC standings, so he has a lot to win, little to lose. Then there's Yoann Bonato who is very fast, but I think his starting position could be a big disadvantage.

[Lead]

Will be really tricky rally. It will be interesting to see Mikkelsen's speed, if he still has it. Tough rally, no time to adapt, long time without competition driving, personally I dont think he will win this.
Why he went back to his old co-driver, any info about that?

[Ciko]

SS1 live:
https://m4sport.hu/m4-lelato/cikk/2020/11/06/itt-nezheti-eloben-a-rally-hungary-prologjat

[Sulland]

Red flag, what does that mean?

https://www.ewrc-results.com/images/flags2/norway.pngNore Jr. Ola - Gulbæk Engan Veronica (https://www.ewrc-results.com/entryinfo/61095-rally-hungary-2020/2832883/)




"It was not going good, we got a red flag, lot of mess in the stage."

[Ciko]

Will be really tricky rally. It will be interesting to see Mikkelsen's speed, if he still has it. Tough rally, no time to adapt, long time without competition driving, personally I dont think he will win this.
Why he went back to his old co-driver, any info about that?
Because Jaeger's wife is having a baby. It's just a couple of month off for him.

[Ciko]

Mikkelsen's "MyLife"-series new episode is out:
https://youtu.be/iP2AqVLbUgY

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Plenty of fans at the SSS rally-cross track tonight.

Cool lights on Mikkelsen's Skoda:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmK5xWAWkAIbVk2?format=jpg&name=medium

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Bad start by Luky reacting slowly off the line (stalled).

[Steve Boyd]

Red flag, what does that mean?A red flag is displayed to neutralise a stage in the event of an incident. It's covered by Art 53.5 of the FIA Regional Rally Sporting Regulations
here:
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/2020_rrsr_fr-en_-_2020-10-12.pdf

[Jarek Z]

Onboard video of Miko Marczyk winning the first stage of the rally:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j_5SvoX1AQ

[satukata]

SS1 live:
https://m4sport.hu/m4-lelato/cikk/2020/11/06/itt-nezheti-eloben-a-rally-hungary-prologjat

Is there more live coming?

I know youtube live ss 5 ss 7 and Sunday two stages

thanks

[pantealex]

Red flag, what does that mean?

https://www.ewrc-results.com/images/flags2/norway.pngNore Jr. Ola - Gulbæk Engan Veronica (https://www.ewrc-results.com/entryinfo/61095-rally-hungary-2020/2832883/)





"It was not going good, we got a red flag, lot of mess in the stage."


Abarth was blocking road so both Clio Rally5 drivers got "counted" time because they were stopped with SOS/red flag

[Lead]

Good morning. What is the starting order?

[KKS]

Onboard video of Miko Marczyk winning the first stage of the rally:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j_5SvoX1AQ
What a stupid start procedure (
But as driver said: Zaebische!

[KKS]

Good morning. What is the starting order?
Morning
https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/sportity-storage/o/e6f46d89-b25f-4da9-9863-25197f60ae3f%2F326cd874-1c6b-42af-b09d-24eb738b4c84_5.3%20Start%20List%20Leg%201%20Sectio n%202.pdf?generation=1604675775398801&alt=media

[Tom K]

First loop - 10 minutes delay each stage, second - 20 minutes.

Edit: They changed itinerary with biulletin.

[KKS]

No splits are invented so far for ERC even this year?

[Jarek Z]

What a stupid start procedure

Yes, indeed. But somehow they expected it, because they discuss it before the start.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

11 min delay on all stages.

[satukata]

oliver driving wet tyres

[Mise]

This ERC should be a laboratory to experiment all kinds of social media stuff. Live coverage, splits or something totally new.
If you can't follow the rally how can you be interested.

[Jarek Z]

This ERC should be a laboratory to experiment all kinds of social media stuff. Live coverage, splits or something totally new.
If you can't follow the rally how can you be interested.

Maybe it's hard to imagine for you, but there are some people who started their interest in rallying when there was no Facebook, no live results and even no Internet, so it's possible :)

[Mise]

Maybe it's hard to imagine for you, but there are some people who started their interest in rallying when there was no Facebook, no live results and even no Internet, so it's possible :)

I started watching rally in 1983. So I may be able to imagine that.
But everything is in internet nowadays so why not rally too.
One phone in the middle of the stage with time running on some corner.
How hard or expensive would that be?

[Jarek Z]

Is there more live coming?

I know youtube live ss 5 ss 7 and Sunday two stages

thanks


The official broadcasts are listed here:
https://www.fiaerc.com/how-to-follow-the-erc-live/

If there is also something on Hungarian TV I have no idea.

[KKS]

[wet tyres] +4.7sec Solberg Oliver: "I went little bit wide in one corner, this was not the perfect tyre choice."
[slick tyres] +36.9sec Marczyk Mikołaj: "Difficult rally, not the right tyre choice, we will lose some time at the end of the loop."

WTF? So what was a right tyre choice?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shame for Cais, he looked really fast in the test videos.

Breen also with an early mistake that could cost him dearly.

[dimviii]

Αt what tyres was Luky?

[dimviii]

Cais

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmNgNukXcAAeLiN?format=jpg&name=medium

[tommeke_B]

Αt what tyres was Luky?

Black round Pirelli

[satukata]

Oliver losing a lot. Slicks are better for the loop

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Spin for Breen.

[KKS]

Oliver losing a lot. Slicks are better for the loop
And he get spun on this SS3

[tommeke_B]

Same struggle for Munster. Also on wets, and had a stall on SS3.

[KKS]

Seems that this rally will win those who make less spins

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS3 Mikkelsen faster than Luky - impressive comeback so far.

[Lead]

Mikkelsen also spun. The second loop will be even more trickier with all the dust and dirt draw out from the curves.
Solberg loosing way too much time with that wrong tyre choice.

[Jarek Z]

In the meantime some shots from the rallycross track yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVQi5vg6lJw

[Jarek Z]

Onboard video of Miko Marczyk winning the first stage of the rally:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j_5SvoX1AQ

Let's have a look at what it looked like from the second driver's perspective. Andreas Mikkelsen vs Miko Marczyk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmr9fR5Nfl4

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mikkelsen doubles his lead... to 1.0s ! ;)

[Jarek Z]

Seems that this rally will win those who make less spins

Yes, it's a spin fest ;) Is anybody counting the spins? :D

SS3:
Bonato Yoann / Boulloud Benjamin: We had a spin on this one, many thanks to spectators for taking us back on the road.
Llarena Efrén / Fernandez Sara: Not so good, I had a spin and lost a lot of time. It was in one hairpin with a lot of mud.
Mikkelsen Andreas / Fløene Ola: It was a good stage, but I had a spin, had to reverse, lost maybe 10 or 15 seconds. Despite that the time is good. I enjoy being back.
Breen Craig / Nagle Paul: Really stupid, one mistake and a spin in a corner, really silly morning.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice close battles... Lukyanuk v Mikkelsen & Solberg v Munster. Hope it continues this way.

[Jarek Z]

There is a change in the live broadcast schedule:
https://www.fiaerc.com/back-to-back-live-erc-action-rally-hungary-style/

[tommeke_B]

I think next stage shouldn't be such a disaster for those running wet tyres, despite it's in the vineyards, plenty of mud and cuts as it seems.

[dimviii]

Marczyk(watch the rear diff temp at second photo)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmNmqf2XcAUBRer?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmNmqgIWEAAz76D?format=jpg&name=medium

[Fast Eddie WRC]

YouTube live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uibhZBwfCx8

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen very unhappy where some fans are standing.

And 3.5s faster than Luky.

[Lead]

Breen worried about spectators?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mikkelsen with 5.1s lead after first loop.

[tommeke_B]

11 different European flags to be spotted inside the top 10.

[RS]

This ERC should be a laboratory to experiment all kinds of social media stuff. Live coverage, splits or something totally new.
If you can't follow the rally how can you be interested.

The live coverage ERC do on Youtube and Facebook is quite innovative, using non-traditional broadcast platforms. It's basically ERC Radio commentary with stage and stopline footage rather than full live stage coverage but it's not bad considering it's free. I feel they could develop/improve it some more but it's a start.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Wish the stage end guys would watch and commentate on the live pictures rather than just chatting over them.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Wow Breen just had a great time.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Lukyanuk down to 3rd and a penalty to come.

[RS]

Wish the stage end guys would watch and commentate on the live pictures rather than just chatting over them.

I kinda agree but I guess that wouldn't work so well for the radio coverage?

[RS]

Do we know what Luky's penalty will be?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Do we know what Luky's penalty will be?

5 mins.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Solberg SS7
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmOuWHVXUAEOcl_?format=jpg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmOuWHZW4AEkYxB?format=jpg&name=medium

Devine
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmOyTRWXEAMpLvb?format=jpg&name=medium

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen has been impressive on the MRF's this afternoon.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmOoJFUWMAYGUkr?format=jpg&name=medium

But a disaster for Luyanuk with a co-driver error on the timing.

https://dirtfish.com/rally/erc/five-minute-penalty-for-lukyanuk-sets-up-erc-twist/

https://www-dirtfish.imgix.net/2020/11/f8c86dc055ba02886080f3e4f78221be.jpg?fit=scale&fm=pjpg&h=520&ixlib=php-1.2.1&q=70&w=780&wpsize=entry-main

[RS]

5 mins.

Harsh :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Harsh :(

'The standard penalty for early arrival is one minute added to the rally time for each minute a crew has checked in too early to a control.'

[satukata]

what is the starting order tomorrow? Top 10? top15?

[Mirek]

There is a lot of full stage onboards already on https://www.youtube.com/user/FIAERC/videos

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS9

(1 - Lukyanuk Alexey / Eremeev Dmitry): I will decide later what to do.

Puncture for Solberg... more time lost to Munster.

[tommeke_B]

Lindholm missing... Not a great season for him.

[Mirek]

I have to say that MRF tyres have been mostly competitive in their first international season (APRC has no asphalt so I don't count it) and at least for me that is a real and pleasant surprise.

[KKS]

Solberg SS7
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmOuWHVXUAEOcl_?format=jpg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmOuWHZW4AEkYxB?format=jpg&name=medium



Didn't know how exactly this refer to Oliver but seems he start to be unreliable and unpredictable driver. In early days he was fast and consistent. Now every rally he has speed but every time something happening... punctures, off, mistakes that drop him in leader board and he can't get a result. As rally needs. Rally count a results, not a pace or speed :(

[Jarek Z]

Lindholm missing... Not a great season for him.

I think Lindholm said that he would be very cautious in this rally, but apparently he didn't listen to his own advice. According to resuts site he was off the road on SS 9 and is out of the event.

[Jarek Z]

Didn't know how exactly this refer to Oliver but seems he start to be unreliable and unpredictable driver. In early days he was fast and consistent. Now every rally he has speed but every time something happening... punctures, off, mistakes that drop him in leader board and he can't get a result. As rally needs. Rally count a results, not a pace or speed :(

You are probably right, but you can say the same about Lukyanuk, can't you? :)

Solberg once said that Lukyanuk is one of his rally idols, so maybe he patterns his idol :)

Good luck to both of them, of course!

[Sulland]

What are the reason of the number of punctures here, do they cut in places they should not?

[KKS]

You are probably right, but you can say the same about Lukyanuk, can't you? :)

Solberg once said that Lukyanuk is one of his rally idols, so maybe he patterns his idol :)

Good luck to both of them, of course!
As far as I know Lukyanuk he was always be crazy and crashy :D

[Jarek Z]

Don't forget about the TV report from day 1 on Eurosport tonight! It starts at midnight if my TV programme is correct.

[Jarek Z]

Mikkelsen by the lake:
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/amp/6AEw7596/s6/andreas-mikkelsen-ola-floene-s.jpg

[KKS]

There is a lot of full stage onboards already on https://www.youtube.com/user/FIAERC/videos
Expect full of night onboard aswell. Night stages have a something special.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

To be fair, Solberg was pretty unlucky here.

"It’s so annoying,” said Solberg. “Two punctures and you don’t know where it was. Everyone else is like ‘I had a moment, I had a moment’... and they don’t get anything.”

[RS]

Didn't know how exactly this refer to Oliver but seems he start to be unreliable and unpredictable driver. In early days he was fast and consistent. Now every rally he has speed but every time something happening... punctures, off, mistakes that drop him in leader board and he can't get a result. As rally needs. Rally count a results, not a pace or speed :(

Most of his early career was spent in Latvia afaik, so now he is learning different types of rallies and it will take time.

Don’t panic, he’s still young and inexperienced. If anything I find him even more impressive than Kalle Rovanpera so far.

[RS]

SS9

(1 - Lukyanuk Alexey / Eremeev Dmitry): I will decide later what to do.


What does he mean by this?

He can still get top fifteen points quite probably and leg bonus points too.

[tommeke_B]

To be fair, Solberg was pretty unlucky here.

"It’s so annoying,” said Solberg. “Two punctures and you don’t know where it was. Everyone else is like ‘I had a moment, I had a moment’... and they don’t get anything.”

Maybe he had several moments too, but kept his mouth shut.

[Mirek]

To be fair, Solberg was pretty unlucky here.

"It’s so annoying,” said Solberg. “Two punctures and you don’t know where it was. Everyone else is like ‘I had a moment, I had a moment’... and they don’t get anything.”

Everybody speaks like that after a puncture and mostly when footage appears, it's turns to be untrue, so I would not take it without a lot of salt.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

What does he mean by this?

He can still get top fifteen points quite probably and leg bonus points too.

Does he still have to drop points from one round ? Budget is tight so he could stop now and try to do better in Canarias.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Everybody speaks like that after a puncture and mostly when footage appears, it's turns to be untrue, so I would not take it without a lot of salt.

Cynical. I think he's an honest kid.

[Mirek]

Cynical. I think he's an honest kid.

Think whatever you want.

[RS]

Does he still have to drop points from one round ? Budget is tight so he could stop now and try to do better in Canarias.

Good point, although I don’t know what the latest drop-score rule is with the shortened calendar?

[RS]

Expect full of night onboard aswell. Night stages have a something special.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QtL_hmatv4

[RS]

There is a lot of full stage onboards already on https://www.youtube.com/user/FIAERC/videos

Great to have these, although the camera seems to struggle to maintain focus in the narrow wooded sections.

BTW, these R5s sound, and in the hands of the top drivers look pretty good on the onboards.

[m-ast]

Tough images from Luky's onboard in the eurosport day1 program, for sure hardest day for his codriver

[Fast Eddie WRC]

One Solberg puncture you clearly see on the highlights he just runs over something in the road. No fault of his.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Some other meaning in this late night tweet ?

@AlexeyLukyanuk
I would like to thank our partners for their support - to Citroen Racing and Total, to Saintéloc and to Pirelli - they support us quite a lot and give proper tools to make a proper performance. Thanks to all our sponsors, to everyone who makes our performances possible.

[KKS]

Good battle between Oliver and Devine.
After SS10 Oliver jump up by +0.4
SS11 Oliver drop down to -0.2

[Lead]

Breen is not up to fight today, so its Mikkelsen's rally to lose now.

[KKS]

Breen is not up to fight today, so its Mikkelsen's rally to lose now.
I think that Breen and Mikkelsen knows that Breen not able to catch time by own speed, so it's safe drive till the end

[KKS]

I think that Breen and Mikkelsen knows that Breen not able to catch time by own speed, so it's safe drive till the end
ehhh... shame :(

[Lead]

Ohh.. comon

[mousti]

Tough images from Luky's onboard in the eurosport day1 program, for sure hardest day for his codriverCan you rewatch that somewhere?

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[dimviii]

FIA European Rally Championship leader Alexey Lukyanuk admits his thirst for perfection makes it harder for him to control his frustration during the heat of battle.

Lukyanuk was furious after discovering he’d been handed a five-minute penalty for an early check-in prior to stage six, which wrecked his hopes of Rally Hungary victory in an instant and has also harmed his bid to win the ERC title for a second time in his Saintéloc Junior Team Citroën C3 R5.

“I need to take some anger management because sometimes I go mad when things go wrong,” the Russian said. “I am upset with my reaction to that. I need to be smoother on people and smoother on situations. I cannot control everything but I want to. I am a perfectionist and even small things make me mad. In future I will work on that.”

Of his strategy for Rally Hungary’s second leg and his title chances, Pirelli-equipped Lukyanuk explained: “I’m trying to focus on positive things. In terms of rally [what happened yesterday] it’s absolutely not the way it should be. I don’t want to get any pleasure from problems from others but for the championship Oliver’s problems with tyres played in our hands. It would be much more stressful should he be somewhere in the top three.

“I know he will build some places today but for the championship it’s not so bad as I thought in the beginning. All my emotions calmed down because it’s not possible to maintain a high level of thrills inside so I become a bit empty and slept well. We need to finish the job. We have tough stages today so we need to focus on that and that’s it.”

https://www.fiaerc.com/perfectionist-erc-ace-lukyanuk-i-need-to-take-some-anger-management/

[RS]

Can someone explain to me why the penalty for early check in is so harsh? Rules are rules, but in this case the punishment does not seem to fit the 'crime'

Mistakes happen and there should be a penalty but to completely to ruin someones rally for this feels wrong.

[tommeke_B]

It's a rookie mistake, maybe a harsh penalty but it's always been like that. The 1' per 1' too early applies not only in rallying but in all kind of navigation sports. No reason why this should be changed. If you check in 5 minutes early, it's because you are really not paying attention.

[KKS]

If you check in 5 minutes early, it's because you are really not paying attention.
Maybe it's a reason for this. Cuz it's all your own decision, you can check-in on time but didn't. When you check-in late there always must be a reason, puncture, road repair, traffic or other non-yours reasons

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmS2SBiXYAAX5J2?format=jpg&name=small

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yoann Bonato
This weekend, we will have discovered a new discipline: "asphalt" rally, with "asphalt" tires (logical so far) but without ever seeing asphalt !

[Rally Power]

Gutted for Luky and Breen. P4 seems in Solberg reach. Nice show from Mikkelsen and Munster so far.

[KKS]

If that section1 pace continue we will have possibly fight even for P2. +/-10 sec at the end could be.

[tommeke_B]

Good stage-time from Munster now. Without punctures or errors from his side, nobody should be able to take his 2nd place.

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/sh4XLLiW6ts

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Can someone explain to me why the penalty for early check in is so harsh? Rules are rules, but in this case the punishment does not seem to fit the 'crime'

Mistakes happen and there should be a penalty but to completely to ruin someones rally for this feels wrong.

It is tough when a simple co-driver timing error can potentially cost a driver a rally and even a championship. No wonder Lukyanuk was so angry.

Seems he calmed down later and realised he owed it to his sponsors to make the best of the situation which is still quite strong vs Solberg.

[m-ast]

Can you rewatch that somewhere?

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I don't know, probably someone record it and can upload

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Can you rewatch that somewhere?



It was just Lukyanuk hitting the steeering wheel and screaming in frustration.

[black lad]

The poor co driver was having a meltdown too...terrible atmosphere

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Solberg needs 0.7s to take 4th on the last stage.

EDIT - He got it.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shame for Herczig to lose a podium at home through a puncture.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Lukyanuk won day 2.

https://www.ewrc-results.com/leg/61095-rally-hungary-2020/?leg=2

[wwbroe]

Very strong performance by Mikkelsen, taking an easy win.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/disappointed-in-myself-if-i-dont-win-hungary-mikkelsen/

Mikkelsen putting some pressure on himself. I think he might be disappointed...

Nope. Mikkelsen :champion:

[tommeke_B]

Very solid performance from Mikkelsen indeed. Hasn't lost his speed and he was very consistent at the same time, didn't expect him to do this well.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmTwnwWXYAU4Kxi?format=jpg&name=medium

[Lead]

Will be really tricky rally. It will be interesting to see Mikkelsen's speed, if he still has it. Tough rally, no time to adapt, long time without competition driving, personally I dont think he will win this.
Why he went back to his old co-driver, any info about that?
Ok, I take my words back. No Kopecky, Gryzin, Ostberg and different mistakes from others... but thats rally. He hold his own and still has it.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Day 1 fan videos:

https://youtu.be/pe6kQzft9GI

https://youtu.be/GwXSL96frlA

https://youtu.be/V0ETnR5DRgk

[tommeke_B]

ERC Overall:
1. Lukyanuk 115
2. Solberg 89
3. Munster 83
4. Llarena 50
5. Breen 47
6. Herczig 36
7. Marczyk 35
= Mikkelsen 35
9. Cais 34

ERC1 Junior:

1. Munster 125
2. Solberg 124
3. Llarena 79
4. Marczyk 78
5. Cais 77
6. Dinkel 65
7. Lindholm 61*
8. Devine 41

ERC3 Junior:
1. Torn 150
2. Bassas 117

[tommeke_B]

In SS16: (37 - Molle Amaury / Barral Florian): I have a problem with the car, I don't know, if we make it to the finish. In the stage the bonnet opened and it broke the window.

He's improving. in Fafe it was SS15: (29 - Molle Amaury / Barral Florian): (broken windscreen) We've had problem with car after first stage and forget lock the bonnet after we were working on it. Problem with brakes.

[dimviii]

Very solid performance from Mikkelsen indeed. Hasn't lost his speed and he was very consistent at the same time, didn't expect him to do this well.
Fastest drivers were Miklelsen,Breen and Luky.Different level from all else.
pitty that Luky had this penalty,and we didnt watch a battle with tenths,as it was at first stages.

And a question,why these cement roads with V shape are constructed like this,and not the opposite to drian the water at the fields?

[tommeke_B]

And a question,why these cement roads with V shape are constructed like this,and not the opposite to drian the water at the fields?

The same shape of roads can be seen in French vineyards in the champagne region (search for Rallye Epernay on youtube, sure you'll find some). The drier the ground (to some extent), the better the quality of the grapes is. So in regions that aren't extremely dry they make these kinds of roads. That way more of the water goes down to lower lying fields instead of into the soil in the vineyards.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Some spins on this corner:

https://youtu.be/svU7LrNV0y8

[Jarek Z]

It's a rookie mistake, maybe a harsh penalty but it's always been like that. The 1' per 1' too early applies not only in rallying but in all kind of navigation sports. No reason why this should be changed. If you check in 5 minutes early, it's because you are really not paying attention.

I agree. It's a harsh penalty, but rules are rules and it has always been like that. Another driver, who suffered this penalty, is Yoann Bonato. He got a 1 minute penalty for checking in too early on the last stage. As a result he dropped from 10th down to the 14th position in the overall classification.

[Sulland]

Very solid performance from Mikkelsen indeed. Hasn't lost his speed and he was very consistent at the same time, didn't expect him to do this well.

Yes, still got the speed, even if his last real rally in a Rally2 car was in 2017. But being used to Rally1 speed is no draw back I guess.

[m-ast]

I agree. It's a harsh penalty, but rules are rules and it has always been like that. Another driver, who suffered this penalty, is Yoann Bonato. He got a 1 minute penalty for checking in too early on the last stage. As a result he dropped from 10th down to the 14th position in the overall classification.

Seems to me that this was some team orders from Citroen, so Lukyanuk moves up one place.

Also take a look at stewards decision Nº7, It seems Sainteloc made a protest aganist Solberg and was rejected (Article 34.1.5 refers on runing in road section with all four wheels and tyres, so I suposse Solberg run on a road section with a puntucre ¿?):
https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/sportity-storage/o/e6f46d89-b25f-4da9-9863-25197f60ae3f%2Fc7752468-b72a-4145-b6b4-8c5a36ca6c1f_2.9%20Decision%20No.%207.pdf?generati on=1604861981905885&alt=media

[Tom K]

Munster also logged protest. It was rejected due to 2 minutes delay [19:38-19:40].

[Jarek Z]

Day 1 fan videos:

https://youtu.be/pe6kQzft9GI


First 30 seconds for viewers over 18 only! ;)

[dimviii]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/erc/protest-against-solbergs-hungary-result-thrown-out/

[Mirek]

That explanation is at least weird...

[m-ast]

That explanation is at least weird...

Yes, would be nice to know a bit more, it's really rare that a protest aganist something that happened on saturday was brought to atention only at last moment, and with that bad procedure from both, one adressing it to clerk of the course and the other not paying on time

Otherwise Canarias is looking great in competition meaning with Luky trying to forget this event, also Spanish national championship will be decided there and top guys will for sure mix in top ERC standigs

[RS]

Congratations to Mikkelsen on his debut tarmac win in ERC/IRC, took a few years but he got there ;)

[Steve Boyd]

Can someone explain to me why the penalty for early check in is so harsh? Rules are rules, but in this case the punishment does not seem to fit the 'crime'

Mistakes happen and there should be a penalty but to completely to ruin someones rally for this feels wrong.

Penalty for early check-in is higher than for late check-in to discourage speeding on the public roads. In addition, for events where running earlier in a stage is better, it stops competitors from racing to get a better starting position on the next stage. The FIA sportng regulations have specified 1 minute per minute for early check-in and 10 seconds per minute for late check-in for as long as i can remember - and I've worked on rally results teams for over 30 years!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Alexey Lukyanuk @AlexeyLukyanuk

The Rally Hungary turned out to be dramatic and scant on gifts for us – we earned only 7 points, but nevertheless, we retain the leading position in the FIA ERC. If everything proceeds as it is planned, we will meet at the Rally Islas Canarias very soon.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmPTmBnW8AAxd8v?format=png&name=small

[Mirek]

Well, that is totally clear. Thanks

[Tom K]

He changed it before check-in to service park. Probably it was also recorded.

[CWJ]

Munster also logged protest. It was rejected due to 2 minutes delay [19:38-19:40].

When doors not open ... then appeal on facts and law :)

[CWJ]

He changed it before check-in to service park. Probably it was also recorded.

Sure? I mean that wheel cost him 1 minute at stage and there were still 45km left to service ... on one rim?

[Tom K]

As far, as i know, yes. He changed it for the one, which was already damaged earlier. He cought two punctures during saturday second loop (SS7 and SS9).

[PLuto]

I agree. It's a harsh penalty, but rules are rules and it has always been like that. Another driver, who suffered this penalty, is Yoann Bonato. He got a 1 minute penalty for checking in too early on the last stage. As a result he dropped from 10th down to the 14th position in the overall classification.

It was not on the last stage, but on entry to service. You can see in results (https://rally-base.com/2020/rally-hungary-2020/penalty/) it was in 16C. And it was not mistake...

[Jarek Z]

The second part of Andreas Mikkelsen's impressions from Rally Hungary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRvOv2Z1kvQ

[RS]

The second part of Andreas Mikkelsen's impressions from Rally Hungary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRvOv2Z1kvQ

Nice video.

‘Maybe there are some other rallies coming too’

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ostberg training local driver Csucsu....

https://youtu.be/PVl8kzrxhj0

[tommeke_B]

https://www.facebook.com/GregoireMunster/videos/881160279366807 Best of onboard from Grégoire Munster. Big moment just after 3'.

[Jarek Z]

Similar video from Miko Marczyk - The Best Moments from Rally Hungary 2020 (4 minutes of onboards). At 1:30 Marczyk let Llarena through. Have a look at how he "thanked" him a few seconds later ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF2FEx1mrgw