[WRC] Rallye Monte Carlo 2021

[Steve Boyd]

No practicing of Rally GB stages - they were all on private land! Rally organisers would work with land owners to check any car seen on a stage. There used to be a lot of mountain biking though!

[AnttiL]

No practicing of Rally GB stages - they were all on private land! Rally organisers would work with land owners to check any car seen on a stage. There used to be a lot of mountain biking though!

In case someone doesn’t know, RAC was a blind rally until 1990

[mknight]

Loubet final aero package


Same as in tests and on the livery rendering then.
Never used hybrid with 2019 rear, wing and roof went and mid 2020 front.

[EstWRC]

press releases
https://www.m-sport.co.uk/single-post/m-sport-ford-ready-for-monte
https://motorsport.hyundai.com/on-a-mission-in-monte-carlo/
https://toyotagazooracing.com/release/2021/wrc/rd01-preview.html

[ictus]

italy was like this even at national rally. couple of weeks before, every night...

Here in Poland we have it even now. There is a big problem with illegal recces, even in lower ranked events

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsBwQP4XAAEUOiR?format=jpg&name=large
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https://twitter.com/fmangeant/status/1351203319381897218?s=20

[the sniper]

No practicing of Rally GB stages - they were all on private land! Rally organisers would work with land owners to check any car seen on a stage. There used to be a lot of mountain biking though!

People probably fear the wrath of the adjoining farm owners more than the organisers... The organisers can fear them too! :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Bulacia recce states SS12-14 from Puget-Théniers / La Penne had wide, dry roads. The SS13-15 (PS) of Briançonnet / Entrevaux had narrower roads and with 70% ice.

[EstWRC]

snow and ice ... tough conditions at the current time for the powerstage
@ACM_Media
#RallyeMonteCarlo #RMC2021

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsAObgNXEAElapt?format=jpg&name=medium



https://twitter.com/Bartolbia84/status/1351095756678168578?s=20

[AnttiL]

Bulacia recce states SS12-14 from Puget-Théniers / La Penne had wide, dry roads.

It’s the lowest elevated stage of the rally, similarly to last year’s SS1

[AnttiL]

snow and ice ... tough conditions at the current time for the powerstage
@ACM_Media
#RallyeMonteCarlo #RMC2021

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsAObgNXEAElapt?format=jpg&name=medium



https://twitter.com/Bartolbia84/status/1351095756678168578?s=20

We’ll see a bunch of hairpins on TV!

[EstWRC]

when are you publishing your preview?

if not, then one question, does the "Tänak" stage is included this year?

[AnttiL]

when are you publishing your preview?

if not, then one question, does the "Tänak" stage is included this year?

Yes, with a chicane in the hyper fast crash place

[dimviii]

Planetemarcus
@planetemarcus

#WRC 1/3 Gravel crew is back to #RallyeMonteCarlo - for M-Sport official drivers will be help by ...

Jouni Ampuja & Tapio Suominen for Teemu Suninen
@AntoineLEstage & Stuart Loudon for Gus Greensmith

[EstWRC]

Markko Märtin and Kuldar Sikk for Tänak

[evoIX]

Free live stream SS?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Colin McMaster @colmcklein

I've done a little recce of the Sunday stages and I have to say, whoever wins the Power-Stage deserves it. The first 5km [of SS13/15] are fast downhill on full ice.

https://twitter.com/colmcklein/status/1351285489874178050?s=20

[Steve Boyd]

In case someone doesn’t know, RAC was a blind rally until 1990

Very true. One of the reasons British Champonship events were popular with some leading world championship contenders in those days. It was the only way they could see and experience the roads before the RAC Rally, even if the routes in the forests weren't exactly the same.

[EstWRC]

so only 2 days left until the start.

the SS1 will be very interesting with no shakedown and new tyres for the drivers. I suppose they go with some set-up from the last test or smth like that, so you can either win or lose a lot already on that stage.

Friday has a veeerrryyy early start, first stage already at 6:10, i mean the gravel crew must go to the stages already around 2-4am? And by the time the drivers arrive there is a sunrise and may be completely different conditions, i suppose its also quite dark for the first drivers. Friday has all new stages too as i understand.

Will be quite crazy weekend like always with Monte. Ogier the favourite like always, especially this year after a year in the car now, the other podium places between Tänak, Sordo and Evans. im not underestimating last years winner Neuville, i just dont know what do think when he has a completely new co-driver with who he hasnt driven even a single mile before the rally.

[EstWRC]

Snow snow snow! Reco stage 3/6

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsFKqs7WMAEnfQp?format=jpg&name=900x900


https://twitter.com/Bartolbia84/status/1351443462982426624?s=20

[AnttiL]

https://itgetsfasternow.com/2021/01/19/route-preview-rallye-monte-carlo-2021/

WRC+ preview clip shows the route so I can finally publish...I mean, write my preview :D

[T16]

What’s the vibe about spectating then? I know it’s banned, but realistically, there’s going to be someone that ventures out?
Wondering how strict the organisers are going to be? Just one spectator visible from on-board enough to get the stage stopped?

[dupanton]

What’s the vibe about spectating then? I know it’s banned, but realistically, there’s going to be someone that ventures out?
Wondering how strict the organisers are going to be? Just one spectator visible from on-board enough to get the stage stopped?

A lot of (French) people are looking to go anyway... I think they will close the roads far from the stages. For sure they will not cancel stages for 1 or a few spectators. There will always be locals fe who live on the stages.

[RS]

Superb write up of the 2011 Monte to entertain you whilst we wait for this year’s event to start:

https://dirtfish.com/rally/erc/monte-carlo-rally-2011-rewind-the-one-that-had-it-all/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

They are bringing in 80 extra Gendamerie to guard the stages and ensure no access.

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsF56rkXAAMX8Ey?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsF56rkXAAMX8Ey?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

https://press.pirelli.com/pirelli-begins-a-new-era-at-rallye-monte-carlo/

[EstWRC]

Tänak crash place has a warning now or whatever its written there

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsGxJF5XcAUWW7a?format=jpg&name=large

[AnttiL]

Tänak crash place has a warning now or whatever its written there


Even I know enough French to read it: "here, the World Champion Ott Tänak went off the road"

[EstWRC]

sorry for being so stupid

i try to be better next time

[AnttiL]

sorry for being so stupid

i try to be better next time

Sorry, I didn’t mean to insult, I was just surprised of my French skills :D

[dimviii]

“He had the accident in the test and he sent me a message saying ‘Can we talk?’ and I said ‘Absolutely’” Latvala recounted.

Ogier went on to say in their discussion that “I think at this point I have to apologise to my boss, I did a mistake” to his team-mate of four years at Volkswagen between 2013 and 2016.

“And I said ‘No problem, I have done the same myself!’” Latvala continued.

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/ogier-apologized-to-new-boss-latvala-for-test-crash/

[EstWRC]

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[dimviii]

every time i see new livery at yaris.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsHmyo-XUAsFRCX?format=jpg&name=900x900


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6vBqtrZfT7g/U4_l5uvGYxI/AAAAAAAAETs/0T9cPHCsrb8/s1600/Bull+Terriers+20.jpg

[EstWRC]

i have to say i liked it a lot more on the pics, doesnt seem that good at all in "real life"

but ill make my final judgement this sunday :D

[T16]

Is this really someone asking for an autograph? Crazy if so.

https://twitter.com/thibaultpascal/status/1351577092056641537?s=21

[wyler]

i have to say i liked it a lot more on the pics, doesnt seem that good at all in "real life"

but ill make my final judgement this sunday :D

still think way better than before!!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Bulacia recce today:

The SS3-6 Aspremont - La Bâtie-des-Fonts had roads with a lot of snow and ice.

The SS4-7 Chalancon - Gumiane and the SS5-8 Montauban-sur-l'Ouvèze - Villebois-les-Pins have little ice, only in shady areas.

[AnttiL]

A bit of speculation...

I can only expect Ogier to win this. I'm expecting Neuville to suffer from the co-driver change. Ogier and Tänak are now more familiar with their cars compared to last year, so I could expect them to be the two top runners. Evans could be also up there, but I'm not expecting as strong performance as last year. However, it could be tight between these four. Then Sordo, Rovanperä and Suninen probably in the second league, and finally Loubet, Katsuta and Greensmith in the third league.

Someone said on twitter it's the most snowy Monte in a while, and I would claim it just favours Ogier, although Neuville was also impressive last year on the snowy SS2 (and has been quick throughout the last four years). With no spectators available to push you out of the snowbank, small errors could be costly, and a slow but steady drive could result in good points.

[AnttiL]

A reminder here for www.fantasywrc.com as well. Pick your drivers for each event and collect points.

[EstWRC]

Neuville was impressive indeed on SS2 last year on that snowy section but IMO it all came from knowing the car vs against the others who were doing just their second stage with their new cars.


but will the snow stay? i remember someone here wrote last week it will be rain and + degrees from today onwards.

[AnttiL]

Neuville was impressive indeed on SS2 last year on that snowy section but IMO it all came from knowing the car vs against the others who were doing just their second stage with their new cars.


Also SS2 has been run almost every year in the past. It won't be run this year, and most of the route is new.

[EstWRC]

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https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1351830124149305346?s=20

[EstWRC]

the chicane at Tänaks place

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsKvyQkXMAECONT?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsKvzLDW4AEutqC?format=jpg&name=large

https://twitter.com/RubnPerez/status/1351836770724438018?s=20

[Rallyper]

Last 24h chance to make your Pickems coming up at 1400h. Closing Thursday 1400h CET.

Please, don´t forget to add your username at the end of your prediction.

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsLYlAXXUAAQRHW?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsLYlAiXcAEGlLB?format=jpg&name=large

https://twitter.com/thierryneuville/status/1351880980089491461?s=20

[Crazy J]

the chicane at Tänaks place

This was surely a nasty crash, but still hopefully it doesn't become a habit for organizers to build chicanes for ALL places were crashes happen. It would bring WRC yet another step closer to F1.

[AnttiL]

This was surely a nasty crash, but still hopefully it doesn't become a habit for organizers to build chicanes for ALL places were crashes happen. It would bring WRC yet another step closer to F1.

Well, this was a crazy fast section anyway, I would have rather just exchanged the stage for something else. I already said before Tänak's crash that it's a crazy section.

[sindroms]

This was surely a nasty crash, but still hopefully it doesn't become a habit for organizers to build chicanes for ALL places were crashes happen. It would bring WRC yet another step closer to F1.

Well... for example in Germany WRC 2015 in place where Prokop(?) and Protasov went off back in 2014 even road repairing was done - additional embankment to make road wider. At least for one episode in 2015 WRC it worked out.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Speaking of nasty crashes; who remembers Roman Kresta's crash in the Octavia where it ended up with two wheels hanging in mid-air over a big drop? I just saw a social media post about it and I believe it to be on this year's route (SS11/13).

[AnttiL]

Speaking of nasty crashes; who remembers Roman Kresta's crash in the Octavia where it ended up with two wheels hanging in mid-air over a big drop? I just saw a social media post about it and I believe it to be on this year's route (SS11/13).

Absolutely correct, great find! Although it's SS12/14.

[Dejan]

Speaking of nasty crashes; who remembers Roman Kresta's crash in the Octavia where it ended up with two wheels hanging in mid-air over a big drop? I just saw a social media post about it and I believe it to be on this year's route (SS11/13).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUJGwfZ7UXc

[Sulland]

i have to say i liked it a lot more on the pics, doesnt seem that good at all in "real life"

but ill make my final judgement this sunday :D

It is important with symmetry in rally liveries. Better for the eye!

[djip]

but will the snow stay? i remember someone here wrote last week it will be rain and + degrees from today onwards.

Very warm today (+10°) and heavy wind and rain = snow melting verry rapidly. I am located a bit further up north but I assume all snow will be gone from the roads. Pitty, as more snow is forecasted for week-end .. when the cars will be further south !

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsM2Hk5W8Agykvq?format=jpg&name=medium

[dimviii]

The air of nothing, Renaud Jamoul, son of the former organizer of the Rallye du Condroz, will start this Thursday alongside French hopeful Adrien Fourmaux his 221st rally, his 72nd in the World and his 9th Monte-Carlo! Unknown to the general public, this passionate 36-year-old Hutois has spent most of his career outside Belgium, with foreign pilots. He has done quite well as he now finds himself in the right seat of new official prospect M-Sport. We took some notes with this co-pilot who has no tongue in his pocket. Renaud, introduce us to your pilot, the Frenchman Adrien Fourmaux. "It is a hope that came from the youth rally training and supported by the French federation. He did four years of medicine before entering rallying. He is a hard worker who learns very quickly since he only competed in around forty rallies before landing a Ford factory steering wheel for the whole of the 2021 season. During my first rally alongside him here he Two years ago, we finished tenth in Monte and second in WRC2. "What is the goal this season? “Learn about the five rallies where he will take Teemu Suninen's place in the factory Fiesta WRC and play the title over the seven WRC2 rounds on our program. »And on this Monte-Carlo? “Trying to win the category. I'm happy that we don't have to start here in WRC1 because the challenge would have been too hard. We know the Fiesta Rally2 well and we will try to compete with the big favorite Andreas Mikkelsen, but also Eric Camilli, the winner of last year. Oliver Solberg will also be a client but he has decided not to nominate this event and therefore will not score points for the championship here. "Is this edition going to be complicated? “Yes, very for four reasons. First, because of the curfew, we will have to get up at 3:30 in the morning to leave at 5 in the first night stages Friday and Saturday. Then because, because of the camera, there will be no spectators to get you back on the road if you are stuck in a wall of snow. Then, because there will be mixed conditions with snowy stages and others dry, which will make the tire choices difficult. Finally, because we have to use new Pirellis whose spikes tend to tear off quite quickly on dry asphalt, which could be a problem. »Can you be considered a professional co-pilot? " Yes and no. Let's say I've been a semi-pro for ten years. I get paid, but not enough to live on it. So I have to do odd jobs on the side the rest of the time. I aspire to be able to devote myself 100% to my co-pilot activity. This would allow me, for example, to better prepare myself physically because here I do not have the size of the Copi Pro. I must weigh at least 15 kilos more than jockey Martijn Wydaeghe. But hey, I reassure myself that another well-known teammate weighing the same as me has been a nine-time world champion! »What do you think of the Neuville-Gilsoul divorce? “I was surprised at the timing. That it fell so late, after the tests, the official photos. It’s unfortunate, but the drivers usually have a pretty strong character and want everything for themselves. I know that Nico's relationship with Thierry has not always been easy. With age, maybe Nicolas just couldn't take it anymore, so they didn't find common ground. To form a good crew, to sometimes live two weeks together in two square meters, you need good cohesion and respect. If I don't have the feeling, I'm not going to risk my skin over a guy who doesn't give a damn about me. We have already said with Thierry (Neuville) that we would probably never ride together because I also have a strong character, beliefs. When it's black, it's black. I will never say amen thinking otherwise. How did they get there? “It is clear that Thierry finds himself in an unnecessarily delicate situation. Today, with only two passes, the role of the co-driver is even more important than 20 or 30 years ago. All these discussions, tensions or arguments over money would not take place if, as at Citroën at the time, the team members were paid directly by the manufacturer and not by the driver himself. Do you think the replacement, Martijn Wydaeghe, will 'do the job'?
“Honestly, I sent him a message to wish him good luck because it is going to be very hard. But he couldn't refuse. You shouldn't blame the guy. Any Belgian co-driver would have accepted. Me including if I had been on my couch. We must try it. Such an opportunity cannot be refused. Who else could take his place in case that doesn't work? "No one in Belgium anyway because there aren't really any good co-drivers anymore. They are not well trained in the Belgian championship because of illegal recognition. Belgian drivers are used to "filing", they no longer need a good team-mate because they know everything by heart. So they'd rather take a paid co-pilot that is budget-friendly rather than a competent guy. Perhaps we should consider creating a co-pilot school. It is no coincidence that Cédric Cherain called on Stéphane Prévot for his World Cup debut this weekend. Because here no way to cheat in recognition. It's two passages, period. "

https://rallyeactionsblog.wordpress.com/2021/01/20/renaud-jamoul-un-copilote-qui-na-pas-sa-langue-en-poche-cela-va-etre-tres-dur-pour-martijn/?fbclid=IwAR0HwEZv8xANdwXXto4ljGKZqlC4WOLWDhxurFYB zF1LhKLTVc351Jsmm1c

[dupanton]

First day as an ice note crew today for me. Things changed a bit as due to curfew rules, non priority INC’s cannot start their day before 6am.
I will be posting updates about conditions on the stages on Facebook. Just search for Benoit Verlinde Rallydriver. Info about the first stage on Friday and Saturday will maybe be less accurate, but I will try my best :)
As for today, both stages should be damp with possibly light rain. No snow or ice expected.

[dimviii]

After two years absent from the Monte Carlo Rally, Dani Sordo returns to a test in which he has already been on the podium three times. He arrives with fond memories of his grand finale to the season in 2020, which he won in Sardinia and secured the brands title to Hyundai with his podium at Monza.

-How do you face his return to Monte Carlo?

- The objective is the same as always: to try to be as high as possible in this rally, which is very difficult, and that this year we will have difficult conditions, although they say that it will rain and the temperatures will rise. It's a test that I've been good at in the past, but it's also very easy to make a mistake. It is not a rally just to run, since you have to be very aware of the conditions of the ground, the ice, and the 'ovreur' have a very important job. There are many things, not just driving.

- What is your memory of this rally?

- Well, we started precisely in the section where I left the last time I ran. It's going to be like starting where we left off in 2018. But I think the first day I can do a good rally because the stages are good. The second there are already areas of snow and others of dry. It's complicated because you have to fit tires to go through the snow and then suffer in the dry.

- Objective?

- The objective is to try to fight for victory. It is clear. Here all the rivals are important, and anyone can win, because many factors influence and it is very easy to make a mistake. The word is not lottery, but it is clear that at any moment you can go out in an ice area that you have not registered, and it's over, or raise more than necessary and lose a lot of time. Anything can happen.

- Will this rally be emotional for being the last with Carlos del Barrio?

- It will be one more rally. We have already had many and he is going to do other things, but we will continue to see each other because it was not a breakup, but something that we decided by mutual agreement. Monte Carlo is always emotional in any case. With Borja Rozada we have already started to work, we did a test and now we will have enough time to live together and adapt. This would not have been the best rally to start with because it is very complicated, but he has come to familiarize himself with the whole team and gain experience.

- Forecast for the 2021 World Cup?

- I think it will be a bit like last year. Ogier, Evans, Tanak and Neuville are going to have a great title fight. What happens is that the situation is bad and you have to adapt to the circumstances. Unfortunately, everything points to one more rally falling off the calendar. But it's a shame. Here I have done nothing but go from the hotel to the training car and from there back to the hotel. I have not even been able to go out to do a little sport, and I am sick of dining in the room alone. I have come to think of bringing a motorhome to have dinner and those things that now cannot be done. The truth is that it is strange, because I do not stop traveling, and I am not contagious. It is true that I respect all the rules, but I am not obsessive either. Of course, it is strange to see that there are no fans in the rally.
https://as.com/motor/2021/01/20/mas_motor/1611166664_813294.html?id_externo_rsoc=comp_tw

[dimviii]

3 drivers,3 different oil companies

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsPDzQkXYAAFC0a?format=jpg&name=medium

[AnttiL]

Gus's car has Castrol stickers though

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsLbbT8XEAAW3Xl?format=jpg&name=large

BTW M-Sport has this year colored stripes on the car to recognize drivers. Suninen's color is green and Greensmith's color is purple :D

[EstWRC]

3 drivers,3 different oil companies

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsPDzQkXYAAFC0a?format=jpg&name=medium

they are still with Michelin as i see...last years pics?

[TypeR]

They did it already in 2020.. Then it was: Teemu green, Gus red/orange, Lappi lime-green, Deividas blue..
Nice idea tho!

[dimviii]

They did it already in 2020.. Then it was: Teemu green, Gus red/orange, Lappi lime-green, Deividas blue..
Nice idea tho!

its not easy recognisable colouring only at rear
best way its roofvent imho
if fiestas have also at roofvent is ok.

[EstWRC]

yeah roof vent is the best solution, Toyota has these stripes on the mirrors but those are so tiny

[Negaiss]

Latest weather models show Very high amount of precipitation in rally area during next 3 days. There will definetly be lots of rain and very heavy snow in high elevations.
https://wxcharts.com/?panel=default&model=icon_eu,icon_eu,icon_eu,icon_eu&region=france&chart=overview,850temp,wind10mkph,snowdepth&run=00&step=117&plottype=10&lat=51.500&lon=-0.250&skewtstep=0

[Negaiss]

During rally week You can follow the radar here - https://meteologix.com/lv/radar-hd/rhone-alpes/#play-0-22-5
Note that radar shows only intensity of precipitation - it does not show either it is rain or snow what is falling. But if color is other than green, it is most likely rain or extremely intense wet snow.

[denkimi]

Things changed a bit as due to curfew rules, non priority INC’s cannot start their day before 6am.

How will you do aspremont then, if the stage starts at 6:10?

[EstWRC]

dirtfish stage guide for today https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/monte-carlo-rally-thursday-stage-guide/

[T16]

Gus's car has Castrol stickers though

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsLbbT8XEAAW3Xl?format=jpg&name=large

BTW M-Sport has this year colored stripes on the car to recognize drivers. Suninen's color is green and Greensmith's color is purple :D


Also quite easy to spot them as Greensmith's car is often upside down in a ditch too.

[EstWRC]

great onboard again from Toyota, this time Ogier https://twitter.com/TGR_WRC/status/1352195547428515841?s=20

[Rallyper]

First day as an ice note crew today for me. Things changed a bit as due to curfew rules, non priority INC’s cannot start their day before 6am.
I will be posting updates about conditions on the stages on Facebook. Just search for Benoit Verlinde Rallydriver. Info about the first stage on Friday and Saturday will maybe be less accurate, but I will try my best :)
As for today, both stages should be damp with possibly light rain. No snow or ice expected.

Maybe someone can quote Dupantons´most important impressions here att MSForums? I don´t have FB... ;)

[EstWRC]

SS1

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https://twitter.com/RubnPerez/status/1352202418747027456?s=20

[Lead]

Maybe someone can quote Dupantons´most important impressions here att MSForums? I don´t have FB... ;)

Second that :)

[dimviii]

toyota changed the front pirelli stickers,as they were almost invisible at previous position

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/141034998_1744043672417807_6168433526163979797_o.j pg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=a26aad&_nc_ohc=tu4owH5kG5kAX8g8jrS&_nc_ht=scontent-bru2-1.xx&oh=b7a41190ef2c1c6d5e548db06f55f660&oe=602F268E

[Sulland]

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https://www.ewrc-results.com/images/flags2/france.pngBernardi Florian (https://www.ewrc-results.com/profile/17441-florian-bernardi/)
https://www.ewrc-results.com/images/flags2/france.pngBellotto Victor (https://www.ewrc-results.com/coprofile/22234-victor-bellotto/)


https://www.ewrc-results.com/images/icon/renault.png

Renault Clio Rally4

https://www.ewrc-results.com/images/tyres/michelin_red.png


Course car



https://www.ewrc-results.com/images/flags2/france.pngOcon Esteban (https://www.ewrc-results.com/profile/264943-esteban-ocon/)
https://www.ewrc-results.com/images/flags2/france.pngEscartefigue Jules (https://www.ewrc-results.com/coprofile/177473-jules-escartefigue/)


https://www.ewrc-results.com/images/icon/alpine.png

Alpine A110S
FL-280-AG (https://www.ewrc-results.com/plates/?plate=121948)
https://www.ewrc-results.com/images/tyres/michelin_red.png


Course car




EsteBan Ocon in an Alpine as Course Car driver!!

[wyler]

total entries 79 (79 on list)



https://www.ewrc-results.com/images/flags2/france.pngBernardi Florian (https://www.ewrc-results.com/profile/17441-florian-bernardi/)
https://www.ewrc-results.com/images/flags2/france.pngBellotto Victor (https://www.ewrc-results.com/coprofile/22234-victor-bellotto/)


https://www.ewrc-results.com/images/icon/renault.png

Renault Clio Rally4

https://www.ewrc-results.com/images/tyres/michelin_red.png


Course car



https://www.ewrc-results.com/images/flags2/france.pngOcon Esteban (https://www.ewrc-results.com/profile/264943-esteban-ocon/)
https://www.ewrc-results.com/images/flags2/france.pngEscartefigue Jules (https://www.ewrc-results.com/coprofile/177473-jules-escartefigue/)


https://www.ewrc-results.com/images/icon/alpine.png

Alpine A110S
FL-280-AG (https://www.ewrc-results.com/plates/?plate=121948)
https://www.ewrc-results.com/images/tyres/michelin_red.png


Course car




EsteBan Ocon in an Alpine as Course Car driver!!

just for today, i read somewhere as marketing for the new f1 team (but he also says he loves rally, so maybe he ll come back in the future)

[Sulland]

Is there any snow/ice left on any of todays stages, or bare asphalt all the way?

[T16]

toyota changed the front pirelli stickers,as they were almost invisible at previous position

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/141034998_1744043672417807_6168433526163979797_o.j pg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=a26aad&_nc_ohc=tu4owH5kG5kAX8g8jrS&_nc_ht=scontent-bru2-1.xx&oh=b7a41190ef2c1c6d5e548db06f55f660&oe=602F268E

Someone really needs to sort sticker placement out on the Yaris.

[dimviii]

find this phto from ss 1 at French forum

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2021/post-2933-0-00801000-1611229040.png

[EstWRC]

interesting insights already from Mads!

Said that Ogier is runnign with a lot of camber and he has heard from different reports that its needed with the new pirelli tyres.

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsQVlNPXMBYpGZu?format=jpg&name=large

[Eli]

When was the last time Rallye Monte-Carlo started during daylight? it's so weird seeing them up there at daytime.

[dimviii]

Rubén Pérez
@RubnPerez


According to @rallylink
SS2 is entirely wet. At 11:45 a.m. it rained in the initial section. There are several rafts of water in some areas. #WRC

[EstWRC]

from dupanton

SS1 report: Roads are damp and there is some light rain. No snow or ice.

[bt52b]

Who is the guy doing the talking on the start ramp? Pier?

[karl59]

Any livestreams for SS1 and SS2?

[Rallyper]

Any livestreams for SS1 and SS2?

Yes. On WRC+ :)

[dimviii]

Any livestreams for SS1 and SS2?

https://www.facebook.com/WorldRally/videos/411302633431188/

[Rallyper]

Well, guys. It´s soon starting. The 2021 WRC season. Let´s hope for a fair and square competition whole year through.

[T16]

Right then, didn't think we would get this one away. Well done to all concerned.
Good luck to all the crews. Fast and Safe please.

[EstWRC]

im interested if Pirelli will reveal the tyre choices like michelin did or not

[dimviii]

Here we are! Hope for a good rally year guys!!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsQaKP9WMAAMQNr?format=jpg&name=large

[rage82]

Wish you a nice rally and full season guys. I think to start this season on a high;) Cheershttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210121/96aeb659b86d6e2f458ddfd80990d441.jpg

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[RS2500]

hello all ... lets go season 2021 !!!

[sti123]

Ogier: 4 P Zero Supersoft + 2 Sottozero (no studs)
Suninen: 5 P Zero Supersoft
Sordo: 4 P Zero Supersoft + 2 Sottozero (no studs)
Tanak: 5 P Zero Supersoft
Neuville: P Zero Supersoft
Evans: 4 P Zero Supersoft + 2 Sottozero (no studs)
Greensmith: 5 P Zero Supersoft
Rovanpera: 4 P Zero Supersoft + 2 Sottozero (no studs)

[EstWRC]

where did you get those?

[satukata]

working splits?

[dimviii]

where did you get those?

official wrc
https://www.wrc.com/en/wrcplus/live-updates/

[sti123]

Delfi blog posted

[Tauri_J]

working splits?

wrc+ still garbage

[EstWRC]

Evans 3 secs faster in split 1

[er88]

Ogier did look very tentative and twitchy at the start

[Tauri_J]

no splits in WRC+....smh

[Sulland]

Have they hidden the splits now?
They are on the live transmission, so they are out there physically, and splits being sent to HQ.

[meh]

if wrc+ have not done any fix, then splits are coming after first one is crossing the finish line

[EstWRC]

no splits in WRC+....smh

i have them, Tänak fastes so far, Evans +2 and Ogier +5

[Tauri_J]

Ott fastest -2

[Tauri_J]

oh man Toyota looks even worse in real life, like a cow :uhoh:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Brake issue for Seb.

[meh]

if wrc+ have not done any fix, then splits are coming after first one is crossing the finish line

and this is how it works.

[Tauri_J]

if wrc+ have not done any fix, then splits are coming after first one is crossing the finish line

this is exactly what happened

[Rally Hokkaido]

Seb complaining of low brake pedal.

[Rallyper]

this is exactly what happened

Bug not fixed?

[Jewy46]

Big slide from Evans!!

[T16]

Evans - some slide!

[Tauri_J]

Neuville slowest sp2

[RS2500]

Tanak is on it !

[T16]

Tanak quick with no wipers - ominous.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

-3.5s wow !

[EstWRC]

wiper not working for Tänak

fakk

[meh]

Tänak... this blindfolded test they made make sense now...

[EstWRC]

he was really frustrated

always something wwith him, it never ends

[RS2500]

have they given a reason why neuville changed co driver ?

[meh]

Suninen 1st split level with Tänak

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice run Kalle.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Teemu said he would go for it.

[EstWRC]

Suninen still even with Tänak in split3

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Noooooooo

[mknight]

Well Suninen has no other option than to push. Unsure funding of rest of season, Formaux getting drives.... etc.

He simply has to show something........

and just as I was typing this he went off.

[T16]

Knew someone would go off there. Hope they’re ok.

[meh]

Suninen 1st split level with Tänak

... and massive off.

quite declaration for the future I guess.

[er88]

Fuck suck Teemu

[RS2500]

teemu :(

[Rallyper]

Man!!!! I thought he was too fast before.

[EstWRC]

and out

[Sulland]

Well Suninen has no other option than to push. Unsure funding of rest of season, Formaux getting drives.... etc.

He simply has to show something........

and just as I was typing this he went off.

Hope they are ok, looks like it.
But he need a long vacation!

[EstWRC]

Sordo way tooo slow

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsQm-ohXcAIBmpt?format=jpg&name=large

[FAlonso]

Suninen what a shame...amazing till then.

[Rallyper]

No marshals at the spot... only spectators...

[mknight]

Sordo said he would push for win before the rally.

[Rally Hokkaido]

No marshals at the spot... only spectators...

One spectator did a good job, slowing Dani down

[EstWRC]

such a shame about Teemu, it wasnt even a big mistake or smth like that, just tad a bit more speed and it was so slippery

[er88]

God Greensmith slower than I even expected.

[EstWRC]

this cant be his real speed, gryazin is fast as him with an r5

[T16]

Fucking hell - did I miss Greensmith spinning a few times or something?

[jonkka]

God Greensmith slower than I even expected.

No surprises there...

[dimviii]

is this the 3rd time Suninen ends at 1st stage at Monte?

[EstWRC]

the stage getting worse now?

[T16]

Has Katsuta got slight front damage?

[meh]

Has Katsua got slight front damage?

yes, I saw it also.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Taka spun.

[T16]

Has Loublet been off too? (something under / LH side)

[EstWRC]

Suninen https://twitter.com/RubnPerez/status/1352251561758646272?s=20

[meh]

Mikkelsen makes things clear with 1st split already.

[EstWRC]

man that place is still dangerous, thwy are showing that SOS sign way too late, Loubet still twitchy there and Gyazin

[Erki]

Why are the showing SOS sign? Shouldn't they stop then? SOS and OK have quite different meanings you know...

[Tauri_J]

such a shame about Teemu, it wasnt even a big mistake or smth like that, just tad a bit more speed and it was so slippery

Imo it was a huge mistake, he was so much faster in that corner than anybody else. So much speed that the car refused to turn.

[meh]

Why are the showing SOS sign? Shouldn't they stop then? SOS and OK have quite different meanings you know...

they are showing other side of that SOS sign :)

[Essaj]

They are showing OK, it's a 2 sided card with SOS/OK on different sides.

[Erki]

Oh, indeed. Didn't think of that!

[steve.mandzij]

It was just a single stage... But I've always thought Suninen was quicker with Markkula than with Lehtinen. I'll have to wait until the next rally to see for sure whether I was right or not.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Greensmith was being slagged off by so many 'fans' on social media and people saying he'll go off. He must be terrified of a mistake now and so gone so careful.

[dimviii]

Gryazin from 3rd split till stage end was same fast as Mikkelsen

[mknight]

Anyone seen any info on Rally2 tire picks?

[er88]

Suninen had to push. He needs to show how quick he can be...., just a shame he took that corner WAY too fast.

Mikkelsen in exact same position, he has to dominate that R5 class.

[EstWRC]

from dupanton

SS2 Report: very similar conditions as on SS1.

[T16]

Greensmith was being slagged off by so many 'fans' on social media and people saying he'll go off. He must be terrified of a mistake now and so gone so careful.

or he's just shit.

[meh]

It was just a single stage... But I've always thought Suninen was quicker with Markkula than with Lehtinen. I'll have to wait until the next rally to see for sure whether I was right or not.

If Teemu start showing good pace, then I have usually question "when?". When it ends. Not does it ends.

[RS]

I guess MSport are missing Lappi now.

[Jewy46]

Greensmith was being slagged off by so many 'fans' on social media and people saying he'll go off. He must be terrified of a mistake now and so gone so careful.

Sorry Eddie I like him as much as anyone else but he just is not up to top WRC pace at this present moment. Nothing against him at all, I would be in a Fiesta WRC right now if I could afford it but calling a spade a spade he would struggle to win a round of the BRC or Irish Tarmac at his present pace. The car is more than capable as seen with Suninens splits.
Greensmith may get quicker but right now thats where he is at

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sorry Eddie I like him as much as anyone else but he just is not up to top WRC pace at this present moment. Nothing against him at all, I would be in a Fiesta WRC right now if I could afford it but calling a spade a spade he would struggle to win a round of the BRC or Irish Tarmac at his present pace. The car is more than capable as seen with Suninens splits.
Greensmith may get quicker but right now thats where he is at

He can do much better and has done in the past.

[wyler]

Sorry Eddie I like him as much as anyone else but he just is not up to top WRC pace at this present moment. Nothing against him at all, I would be in a Fiesta WRC right now if I could afford it but calling a spade a spade he would struggle to win a round of the BRC or Irish Tarmac at his present pace. The car is more than capable as seen with Suninens splits.
Greensmith may get quicker but right now thats where he is at

still best of the "rest" (kat - lou)

[EstWRC]

delay it seems


what a surprise

[satnav]

SS 2 Delayed !!

[Rallyper]

SS2 delayed... Zero car hasn´t even started...

[RS2500]

why the delay ?

[dimviii]

Rallirinki / Teemu
@HartusvuoriWRC
·
2m
Suninen saying the roll cage is bent. Looking unlikely he could rejoin the event. #WRC

[Rallyper]

15 min delay.

[Jewy46]

Huge shame for M-Sport and Suninen as by the sounds of it he won't be able to return tomorrow after such a struggle to get there in the first place and the pace shown in the stage.

Rallying sometimes punishes you heavily!

[masa90]

Oh dear. What a bad start for msport even considering their bad situation before the rally. How many times has Teemu crashed on ss1 now?

[meh]

Greensmith for me is "gentlemen driver" - he is driving in WRC because is pays for that, not because he is talented for that. If you watch it like this, he is doing well.

And it's not really our business how someone is spending his money.

[Lead]

Great stage time for Gryazin. First time in new car and 2nd fastest only behind Mikkelsen.

[RS2500]

Millener pretty flat

[Rallyper]

Some emergency situation on the stage, they said.

[BigWorm]

Millener trying his best to be polite.

[dimviii]

15,28 new time for ss 2

[dimviii]

SS2 will be delayed by a minimum of 15 minutes due to a medical emergency in the stage. More news as we have it.

[er88]

Millener trying his best to be polite.What do they expect? They've brought a gentleman driver who funds the team, dropped Lappi because he won't pay, and their only "actual" rally driver has had his program cut/ funding issues so is clearly going to drive with a point to prove.

And Suinen was driving like that, and a few corners from winning the stage. Small margins. But it's hardly a surpise Suninen crashes in Monte - he has done for numerous years.

[Katvala]

Photographer broke his leg and a helicopter is arriving to pick him up, that is the reason for the delay

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[focus206]

The sad thing is that there are so few WRC cars in this era that Greensmith is a gentleman driver and after a slow stage time is still 7th overall...

[dimviii]

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/140633731_3723109944415306_1958316326948071723_n.j pg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=QUxChKpJNGAAX8TUnEU&_nc_ht=scontent-bru2-1.xx&oh=a537173b1c1660197ab6e40ffdf9ef19&oe=602F5812

[EstWRC]

stage is live, ogier started

[dimviii]

Oliver Solberg
@OliverSolberg01
·

First stage of the 2021 @OfficialWRC
season is done!

Unfortunately we felt no power after 5km which affects the stage time, but hopefully it'll be okay for SS2
Crossed fingers

[RS]

What do they expect? They've brought a gentleman driver who funds the team, dropped Lappi because he won't pay, and their only "actual" rally driver has had his program cut/ funding issues so is clearly going to drive with a point to prove.

And Suinen was driving like that, and a few corners from winning the stage. Small margins. But it's hardly a surpise Suninen crashes in Monte - he has done for numerous years.

Perhaps Formaux would have been a better choice here.

I wonder who pays the repair bills in this situation. If it's M-Sport this is where taking pay drivers looks like not such a good idea.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Just because Greensmith pays doesn't make him a 'gentleman driver'.

He's still young and has been in rally for years going through all the classes. He has some talent, otherwise how did he win the R5 class at Rally Monte Carlo 2019: https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/52398-rallye-automobile-de-monte-carlo-2019/?ct=1018

The vitriol aimed at him because he pays is just not fair and not necessary. I cant see the same being given to Katsuta or Loubet. Gus is not doing any harm and we should be glad he is bringing money into the sport.

[steve.mandzij]

Just because Greensmith pays doesn't make him a 'gentleman driver'.

He's still young and has been in rally for years going through all the classes. He has some talent, otherwise how did he win the R5 class at Rally Monte Carlo 2019: https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/52398-rallye-automobile-de-monte-carlo-2019/?ct=1018

The vitriol aimed at him because he pays is just not fair and not necessary. I cant see the same being given to Katsuta or Loubet. Gus is not doing any harm and we should be glad he is putting money into the sport.Would you be saying the same if he were driving an i20?

[Rallyper]

Perhaps Formaux would have been a better choice here.

I wonder who pays the repair bills in this situation. If it's M-Sport this is where taking pay drivers looks like not such a good idea.

MSport have been on wrong course since more than a year now. If you don´t charge you loose slowly by time and now, see where they are. It´s sad. But they have done many wrong decisions lately, I believe.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Would you be saying the same if he were driving an i20?

I wouldnt be slagging him or anyone else off whatever they were in if its not justified.

[EstWRC]

Evans -4.5 in split 1

[meh]

First - I did not say anything bad against Greensmith
and second - I just shared my opinion and point of view, you don't need to share it, we don't need to find The Truth here. Piece.

[er88]

Evans looks so aggressive in that car. He's flying

[meh]

Was Tänak driving with full-speed?

[T16]

Tanak looking slow in that section from Heli cam?

[jparker]

still best of the "rest" (kat - lou)

Loubet is on winter tires, hoping for the next one, so can't compare with him.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Teemu Suninen Racing @TeemuSuninenRac
SS1... and very disappointed. It’s a shame the season started like this. I lost the line, hit a bank, rolled the Fiesta, and went out down a ditch. Luckily we are ok but unfortunately the car is not. Feel sorry for the team.

[satukata]

working splits?

[T16]

Teemu Suninen Racing @TeemuSuninenRac
SS1... and very disappointed. It’s a shame the season started like this. I lost the line, hit a bank, rolled the Fiesta, and went out down a ditch. Luckily we are ok but unfortunately the car is not. Feel sorry for the team.

He was still probably quicker than Greensmith by walking to the end of the stage, so not all lost.

[EstWRC]

stage getting faster with each car?

Neuville -4 from Tänak in first split

[Rallyper]

Ogier in trouble? Brakeissues or what?

[TypeR]

too fast for Neuville? :D

[meh]

stage getting faster with each car?

Neuville -4 from Tänak in first split

0.4sec slower in 2nd split...

But Rovanperä was 2.5sec faster than Tänak in 1st split as well.

[T16]

stage getting faster with each car?

Neuville -4 from Tänak in first split

Greensmith should be flying then. :D

[EstWRC]

Ott looks so calm

[Rallyper]

No splits on WRC+

[meh]

Maybe there was some issue for Tänak during 1st split, because lost a lot of time there and winning a lot back later.

update: was engine staring problem in start and lost some seconds there.

[er88]

Ott looks so calmDriving very well. Car handling well too

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Suninen aftermath vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc2jGX3A_N0&feature=youtu.be

[TypeR]

damn, haven't seen Tänak with such pace for a long time..
like 2019 ;)

[EstWRC]

Maybe there was some issue for Tänak during 1st split, because lost a lot of time there and winning a lot back later.

update: was engine staring problem in start and lost some seconds there.

engine stopped two times at start

still cant get trhough without problems and such a time!

[er88]

Neuville in trouble?

[meh]

No splits on WRC+

Use "Maps" view, you can see them there and don't even need to wait first one to finish.

[Sulland]

Why are they not using Ostberg commenting live on the stages. It is there his knowlegde will make a difference to us, paying for this!

[er88]

Superb from Kalle.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Top job again by Kalle.

[Rallyper]

Suninen aftermath vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc2jGX3A_N0&feature=youtu.be

Oh, dear...

[meh]

So far:
* 1st stage - win for Tänak, even he didn't have visibility
* 2nd stage - win for Tänak, even he didn't have engine working in start and lost some seconds there

keep going.

ok, need to wait Loubet before puting stage-wins in place.

[Lead]

Sordo way off the pace from other top drivers

[Rallyper]

Use "Maps" view, you can see them there and don't even need to wait first one to finish.

Thanks. I used to do it before but more often just use the Split times page. Worked on SS1 but not on SS2.

[TypeR]

Loubet and Fourmaux fastest SPL1..? :O

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Some with cold tyres with the delay ?

[T16]

Greensmith looks like he's being driven by the car. Not so sure he should be in it with confidence so low.

[jparker]

Who has Kalle as winner in the Pickems? :D

[Essaj]

Loubet? HELLO?

Edit: Winter tyres must be working

[Katvala]

Loubet -3s on Tänak!

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tyres doing the job for Loubet.

[TypeR]

Greensmith looks like he's being driven by the car. Not so sure he should be in it with confidence so low.
Teemu fcked it all up :D
,,Gus, it's Rich here..''

[Lead]

Loubet on winter tyres going fast.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Oops Taka spun again.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsQ6FihXAAIxf6p?format=png&name=small

[Myrvold]

The sad thing is that there are so few WRC cars in this era that Greensmith is a gentleman driver and after a slow stage time is still 7th overall...

Nothing new really. Matthew Wilson had some 7th places overall in seasons where he got a lot of 5th and 6th places in rallies.

And was it not in 2006 where Manfred Stohl got 4th in the championship with the privateer-run 307? All respect to him, he is a PWRC World Champ after all, but it wasn't exactly a sign of the strength of the WRC-field in 06!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsQ6tM5W4AEDBVK?format=jpg&name=medium

[T16]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsQ6FihXAAIxf6p?format=png&name=small

Damage doesn't reflect the speed it hit the tree. Such a shame for M Sport.

[Essaj]

Shame that Fourmaux is in R5 :(

[jparker]

Greensmith and Katsuta will be neck and neck this year, in its own class.

[dimviii]

Damage doesn't reflect the speed it hit the tree. Such a shame for M Sport.

he was on 3rd gear just before crash

[T16]

he was on 3rd gear just before crash

I'm guessing the rear of the roll cage is designed to crush easier than the front?

[er88]

Shame that Fourmaux is in R5 :(Great time from him.

[dimviii]

I'm guessing the rear of the roll cage is designed to crush easier than the front?

at rear there is a big distance between bumper and rollcage,thats why we have such a big setback of the car of car.
But there ,there is not something to protect.

[Rally Hokkaido]

I'm guessing the rear of the roll cage is designed to crush easier than the front?

Point of impact was near the middle of rear hatch and then pushing against the rear edge of main hoop, which is not where it is not so strong against being impacted.