[WRC] Rally Italia Sardegna 2020

[dimviii]

I am not quite sure why it was done in Estonia, likely organisers got special dispense from FIA to do it.

because of little total kms if i remember right

[jonkka]

because of little total kms if i remember right

Sardinia route is just five kilometers longer?!?

EDIT: Yet, it is very logical. I simply wonder why it isn't same here, maybe organisers had to take the initiative to apply for it, instead of FIA being active and proposing.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville passed Ogier.

[dimviii]

Sardinia route is just five kilometers longer?!?

EDIT: Yet, it is very logical. I simply wonder why it isn't same here, maybe organisers had to take the initiative to apply for it, instead of FIA being active and proposing.
but with a a very long first day with 148.46km
https://www.ewrc-results.com/timetable/61497-rally-estonia-2020/

[TypeR]

Rally Estonia Leg 1 was 148km, whole rally 2 days
Sardegna Leg 1 is 95km, whole rally 3 days..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Very good day by Suninen. Second place behind a guy with the best road position (Sordo) is a top job.

[jonkka]

Rally Estonia Leg 1 was 148km, whole rally 2 days
Sardegna Leg 1 is 95km, whole rally 3 days..

Good point, with 75% of the stages on single day it stands to reason.

[er88]

Speculative...., and there's a lot of rallying to go...., but if Thierry can get past Teemu, things could be looking better for his championship again. Hyundai could even make Sordo hand him the win and if Evans is down in 5th etc, championship could be back on for the Belgian going to Ypres and Monza.

I'm sure a lot more twists and turns to come

[meh]

Speculative...., and there's a lot of rallying to go...., but if Thierry can get past Teemu, things could be looking better for his championship again. Hyundai could even make Sordo hand him the win and if Evans is down in 5th etc, championship could be back on for the Belgian going to Ypres and Monza.

I'm sure a lot more twists and turns to come

I think Ogier and Evans both will take Teemu. Tänak probably is too far away and with bad road position to spice it up more.

[dimviii]

how is the manufacture points till stage 6?

[tommeke_B]

"You know French? Because I don't understand this alarm." - Ostberg

LOL

[dimviii]

Gary Boyd KiwiWRCfan
@KiwiWRCfan
·
6m
From 9 points down to 9 points ahead

Virtual manufacturer #WRC points if rally was to finish after SS6

Hyundai 165 + 25 + 15 = 205
Toyota 174 + 12 + 10 = 196

[dimviii]

https://twitter.com/FIAJuniorWRC/status/1314586047536345099

[1988senna]

Dose anybody know why Greensmith can get a full seat since so many talented drivers have no car to drive. Did he bring huge sponsor for the M sport

[doubled1978]

Speculative...., and there's a lot of rallying to go...., but if Thierry can get past Teemu, things could be looking better for his championship again. Hyundai could even make Sordo hand him the win and if Evans is down in 5th etc, championship could be back on for the Belgian going to Ypres and Monza.

I'm sure a lot more twists and turns to come

I was thinking about that, would Hyundai do that as it would go against Tanak who is also the fight? Difficult choice for Adamo.
Manufacture points most important to him.

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/-mbWBZjFBfk

[dimviii]

Ciamin with 5th time overall at ss 6

[erikli2]

Only 3 cars left in J-WRC that hasn't retired for the day. Must be very rough for the Rally4-cars.

[AnttiL]

This time I understand him. In Estonia they changed the starting order for the afternoon loop on friday, this time not, why?

Estonia was driven in a shorter format, forest stages only on Saturday and Sunday. There's even an article on this in the sporting regulations.


Turkey also:

"Saturday is the longest leg of the weekend and is unchanged from 2019. It journeys west of Marmaris and packs 107.38km into three tests, which are driven morning and afternoon. The loops are divided by service, during which the running order of the top drivers will be reversed".

This is not true. Only the two stages on Friday were driven in championship order and then Friday standings were reversed for whole Saturday.

[AnttiL]

Dose anybody know why Greensmith can get a full seat since so many talented drivers have no car to drive. Did he bring huge sponsor for the M sport

Look at the stickers on the car. It's his family business. But I'm not complaining. Without that sponsorship, no one would drive that third car.

[denkimi]

Dose anybody know why Greensmith can get a full seat since so many talented drivers have no car to drive. Did he bring huge sponsor for the M sport
Greensmith pays for his drives, anyone with enough money can do the same.

[Rally Power]

So far, hats off to Sordo, Suninen, Solberg and Rossel (big surprise). Gutted for Tanak; hopeful for Evans.

[AnttiL]

Rovanperä announced it was steering issue on SS5/6

[EstWRC]

interesting, it seems the last two stages suited Hyundai more?

actually 3 last stages today were Hyundai 1-2. ok road position has a big say here too, especially in the case of Sordo but Ott started from third and set also very good times on last two stages and on SS6 it was even Hyundai 1-2-3.

[dimviii]

another rally where Neuville has a slow start,and ups his performance later on stages.
This thing has cost him a lot

[AnttiL]

interesting, it seems the last two stages suited Hyundai more?

actually 3 last stages today were Hyundai 1-2. ok road position has a big say here too, especially in the case of Sordo but Ott started from third and set also very good times on last two stages and on SS6 it was even Hyundai 1-2-3.

Ott had issues all morning...

[EstWRC]

Ott had issues all morning...

you dont have to tell me that :D

what i meant was they werent so fast in the morning, well okay you could say Neuville wasnt because Sordo was but not also on SS1 and on SS3.

anyway new day tomorrow, pace wise Loubet is catchable for Tänak but thats it basically.

Will be interesting to see how long Suninen can hold on to his pace and yet AGAIN we have tasty fight between Ogier and Neuville.

[dimviii]

Esapekka Lappi Rally
@EsapekkaLappi

Unfortunately we won’t be back out again tomorrow.
Our pace was really promising so it’s really disappointing that things had to end the way they did. It was all over pretty quickly to be honest: steam from the bonnet and there was no water left in the engine. Thats all folks!

[tommeke_B]

Onboards from this morning are on WRC+. The video of Suninen from SS1 is just stunning!

[EstWRC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKWJhZO1BHo

[dimviii]

At the end of the day’s final stage, where Ogier was beaten by Nicolas Ciamin’s Citroën C3 R5, Ogier said: “It’s just ridiculous. It’s nothing new. Rally is [an] amateur sport and will remain an amateur sport until it’s managed in a professional way.”

Discussing the matter further with DirtFish, Ogier added: “Honestly I don’t want to go on more about it. I say what I think because I always say what I think. I’ve lost too much time and energy in the past fighting this, so I don’t want to enter this discussion again. But it’s a shame for our sport, because that’s killing it and not giving it the chance to grow and make nice battles like we had in the last rallies and that’s the way it is.

“My career is mainly behind me and I don’t want to lose any more energy fighting that. I’m happy with my day, I did everything I could. It’s been pretty good performance from our side and I think I did a good job against the guy I was fighting with.

“This afternoon was worst than I thought it would be – it’s hard when you see R5 cars are nearly beating you on the last stage, what can you do?”

In the previous events – the so-called short-form, two-day events in Estonia and Turkey – the running order has been swapped at the end of the first morning.

based Rally Estonia. Ogier said Italy should have followed the previous plan.

“On the last rally, everybody said: ‘Ah, it’s nice now, it’s disadvantaging the leaders, but not too much they still have the chance to fight their way back.’ I think in the paddock more or less everybody is agreed we should stay on that.

“Everybody loved the timing of the more compact rally, but somehow we still get stuck where we’ve always been. It’s a shame, but that’s the way it is.”

Evans agreed with Ogier and admitted he could sympathize with his team-mate.

“I was pretty p***** off, I think you can see that at the end of that loop,” he said. “It’s pretty frustrating when you have no chance to fight at all with the guys behind you and he’s had six years of this. Maybe my feelings aren’t quite as strong as his, but I can see how he ends up in that frame of mind if he’s had six years of this.”

Saturday’s reversed running order means the fourth and fifth placed Ogier and Evans will run eighth and seventh on the road.


https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/ogier-bemoans-sweeping-after-being-outpaced-by-rally2-car/

[dimviii]

nice info regarding Neuville copying Sordos set up

“Obviously there were some new settings after the test, I tried it one run on shakedown but the setting obviously wasn’t right,” Neuville told DirtFish at the end of the day.

“Dani has driven it since this morning, so I decided to jump over and use part of his settings, change the gearbox as well. Obviously it worked much better.”

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/neuville-cured-speed-deficit-by-following-sordo-on-set-up/

[EstWRC]

That’s interesting. Sordo is 6 months out and then finds a better setup than Thierry.

I would have thought the other way around :D

[dimviii]

That’s interesting. Sordo is 6 months out and then finds a better setup than Thierry.

I would have thought the other way around :D

i have mention plenty of times Neuvilles problem.He cant find a setup to be fast straight away from stage 1 .
that happens for years.

[denkimi]

At the end of the day’s final stage, where Ogier was beaten by Nicolas Ciamin’s Citroën C3 R5, Ogier said: “It’s just ridiculous. It’s nothing new. Rally is [an] amateur sport and will remain an amateur sport until it’s managed in a professional way.”

Discussing the matter further with DirtFish, Ogier added: “Honestly I don’t want to go on more about it. I say what I think because I always say what I think. I’ve lost too much time and energy in the past fighting this, so I don’t want to enter this discussion again. But it’s a shame for our sport, because that’s killing it and not giving it the chance to grow and make nice battles like we had in the last rallies and that’s the way it is.

“My career is mainly behind me and I don’t want to lose any more energy fighting that. I’m happy with my day, I did everything I could. It’s been pretty good performance from our side and I think I did a good job against the guy I was fighting with.

“This afternoon was worst than I thought it would be – it’s hard when you see R5 cars are nearly beating you on the last stage, what can you do?”

In the previous events – the so-called short-form, two-day events in Estonia and Turkey – the running order has been swapped at the end of the first morning.

based Rally Estonia. Ogier said Italy should have followed the previous plan.

“On the last rally, everybody said: ‘Ah, it’s nice now, it’s disadvantaging the leaders, but not too much they still have the chance to fight their way back.’ I think in the paddock more or less everybody is agreed we should stay on that.

“Everybody loved the timing of the more compact rally, but somehow we still get stuck where we’ve always been. It’s a shame, but that’s the way it is.”

Evans agreed with Ogier and admitted he could sympathize with his team-mate.

“I was pretty p***** off, I think you can see that at the end of that loop,” he said. “It’s pretty frustrating when you have no chance to fight at all with the guys behind you and he’s had six years of this. Maybe my feelings aren’t quite as strong as his, but I can see how he ends up in that frame of mind if he’s had six years of this.”

Saturday’s reversed running order means the fourth and fifth placed Ogier and Evans will run eighth and seventh on the road.


https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/ogier-bemoans-sweeping-after-being-outpaced-by-rally2-car/
Ogier whining like he has for many years, even when he doesn't have to open the road.

He is a great driver, but a bad loser. The rules are the same for everyone.

[TypeR]

Ogier whining like he has for many years, even when he doesn't have to open the road.

He is a great driver, but a bad loser. The rules are the same for everyone.

He should ask someone smarter or read the forum, why the starting order was changed in Rally Estonia during Leg1 vs Rally Sardegna.. ,,1+1 math'' isn't that difficult..

[1988senna]

Do you know you much Greensmith pay to Wilson per year

[EstWRC]

Morning guys

#RallyItaliaSardegna
Michelin Tyre info - SS7/SS8/SS9/SS10

Toyota
Ogier/Evans/Rovanperä/Katsuta: 5 MICHELIN LTC Force M6

Hyundai
Tänak/Sordo/Loubet: 5M6
Neuville: 6M6

Ford
Suninen/Greensmith: 6M6

#MichelinWRC

[lankey555]

Any live feeds for this rally?

[GigiGalliNo1]

Any live feeds for this rally?

People still asking for free tv? Euro 9 a month is too much?! Come on...

[dimviii]

Good morning guys!!

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2020/photos/rally_italia_sardegna_2020/hfr_dsc_0657.jpg

[wwbroe]

Good morning, Monte Lerno live now.

[EstWRC]

amazing helicopter landscape views!

[wwbroe]

amazing helicopter landscape views!

I agree, the images are just amazing, regretting not being there for the first time since five years.

[EstWRC]

interesting Tänak didnt gain anything on Kalle in split3 but then takes purely 3 secs out of him with the next split

E:Loubet lost also only 0.6 sec there

[AnttiL]

Loubet had hit something, one tyre off the rim and the impact warning light flashing

[EstWRC]

the sun is quite bad i have to say, Evans also mentioned it

[wwbroe]

Neuville was saying to Gilsoul that car was sliding a little bit more because of the second spare tyre.

[Rallyper]

Some of the guys seems to be slow starters in the morning...

[Rallyper]

Morning, by the way.

[EstWRC]

Neuville already mentioning his spare tire, lol

big reality check again, how much the back starters gain from their starting position on fridays.

Ogiers chances starting to look better and better again

[AnttiL]

These two stages are the fastest of the rally. Fiesta not performing here now?

[EstWRC]

Sordo had cow on the road

[AnttiL]

Cow on the road for Sordo!

[meh]

These two stages are the fastest of the rally. Fiesta not performing here now?

and/or no road position advantage anymore

[dimviii]

Rossel and Camilli stopped,Ciamin probably with a problem + 2 minutes from Ostberg

[EstWRC]

oh man, Ott now second on the road

[meh]

Rovanperä off, Tänak has now one less car to clean the road...

[wwbroe]

Obviously Kalle had a hard hit, stopped in stage

[wwbroe]

Actually Kalle hit two three's, one at each side

[Rally Hokkaido]

Kalle sideswiped a tree on the left side, clipped one on the right first?

[EstWRC]

wasnt this rally meant to be witthout spectators? :D

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej8uaB7WsAA6yhC?format=png&name=small

[dimviii]

Camilli was off road,crew ok.

[dimviii]

Loubet ss 7

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201010/6b18f3bdb3196c181abdda937f2eb724.jpg

[Fredouye]

Loubet in SS7

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201010/d8bc679dd51864d0f1cd35986290d0ec.jpg

[dimviii]

Ciamin retired with transmission issue

[EstWRC]

damn Teemu!!!!!


didnt have a handbreak

[wwbroe]

Great time for Sordo, first one to mention Kalle's car is in really dangerous place.

[meh]

Great time for Sordo, first one to mention Kalle's car is in really dangerous place.

Other have mentioned also, but maybe people are trying to move it and it's currently in some other position?

[wwbroe]

Other have mentioned also, but maybe people are trying to move it and it's currently in some other position?

That is possible offcourse.

[er88]

Evans again impressing me.

[Rallyper]

One minute gap and very dusty today for WRC3.

Oliver had to take it easy on SS8...

[er88]

Evans again impressing me.Losing some time on this stage though

[EstWRC]

not bad splits for Ott at all compared to Evans

Gus now just 9 secs in front of Ott

[EstWRC]

Neuville again giving time away in the end!!!


Teemu also very slow

[wwbroe]

Neuville touched something three kilometers from finish and had to slow down a little

[wwbroe]

Teemu loosing a lot:mad:

[EstWRC]

Suninen just 2 secs in front of Evans now but he will def. loose it on next one without handbrake which you need a lot here, unlucky

[Fredouye]

Live from Monte Lerno 2

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201010/d1ed28cafc8607229c6a85b166840867.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201010/ca407214bcf466821fa46515cf639539.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201010/27cc08d0fb9f5392a15ebb5cb71835ee.jpg

[flykas]

Really nice push by Ogi.

[masa90]

It is absolutely crucial for Neuville to get ahead of Ogier. This seems to be his chance to get back in the game despite those few retirements. Evans is still in a good place, but he also needs a bit more speed to not lose too many points.

[RS]

Solberg is reporting dust issues as only one minute gaps today.. why when there are only 4 stages?

[erikli2]

Fourmaux stopped on stage. Looks like Pontus lead isn't in danger anymore.

[wwbroe]

Solberg just lost about a minute to his compatriots in WRC2, what happened?

[Rallyper]

Fourmaux stopped on stage. Looks like Pontus lead isn't in danger anymore.

Did they say what happened to him. Was away for a short while.

[wwbroe]

Huttunen up in the lead now

[erikli2]

Did they say what happened to him. Was away for a short while.

Nope, just read it on e-wrc

[SubaruNorway]

Solberg just lost about a minute to his compatriots in WRC2, what happened?

Puncture

[wwbroe]

Apparently it was a puncture for Oliver

Thanks for the info SubaruNorway

[dimviii]

LIVE UPDATE: Drama for @seanjrally

The American rolled his @CitroenRacing
C3 R5 in SS8 but was able to continue
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej9Mty_WoAcWO_W?format=jpg&name=small

[AnttiL]

Solberg is reporting dust issues as only one minute gaps today.. why when there are only 4 stages?

They are doing both stages twice within the leg, so you need to have the cars through the first run quick enough to start the second run in time.

[EstWRC]

Greensmith very far away from the stage on live maps

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Things going away from M-Sport today with Suninen's handbrake issue and now WRC2 Fourmaux stopped.

Hope Suninen can fight back this afternoon, but at the same time I want Evans to move up.

[dimviii]

Pedro at Mickeys jump

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej9RUTlXsAEQXL1?format=jpg&name=large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Greensmith not started now ! :(

[Rallyper]

GG stopped on roadsection.

[erikli2]

Probably alternator issue for Gus then, they had the low battery warning on the last stage.

[EstWRC]

wtf ogiers cars didn turn at all in that right hander on cross cart track

[wwbroe]

Alternator belt problem for Greensmith

[EstWRC]

Ogier stalled

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville flying sgain.

[wwbroe]

Neuville very fast now

[Augury]

Neuville takes second place from Ogier.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ha ha smile on Neuville. :D

[wwbroe]

Thierry saying that taking extra spare wheel was the wrong decision

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans up to 4th ahead of Suninen.

[dimviii]

as it is now how will be the drivers points?

[EstWRC]

as it is now how will be the drivers points?

Evans 109
Ogier 94
Neuville 83
TÄnak 78

[Rallyper]

So - the BIG question:

Does Tommi dare putting Evans ahead of Ogier?

Lead (We know what Adamo will do...)

[Rallyper]

Evans 109
Ogier 94
Neuville 83
TÄnak 78

did you count Neuville for win?

[AnttiL]

So - the BIG question:

Does Tommi dare putting Evans ahead of Ogier?

Lead (We know what Adamo will do...)

Can they drop Sordo without letting Ogier ahead as well? Because that would mean less manufacturer points? Of course there's still lots of stages until that decision...

[tommeke_B]

Can they drop Sordo without letting Ogier ahead as well? Because that would mean less manufacturer points? Of course there's still lots of stages until that decision...

That would also mean helping Ogier in the battle for the championship, anyway too early to say what will happen. They'll probably let them all push on and see what's on the table before the powerstage.

[EstWRC]

did you count Neuville for win?

why?

Adamo doesnt care about drivers championship and like said here just now that would mean Ogier could get ahead of both.

And so far Sordo has earned this win 100%

Tommi wont definitely give any orders

[dimviii]

Solberg after his puncture who dropped 3rd,with a faster time managed to climb 4,9 sec from Huttunen.
Excellent pace from Oliver at a slow technical rally.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Greensmith retired on the road section. :(

[Rallyper]

I was just thinking...

Yeah. manufacturers most important.

[Simmi]

Please tell me someone has video of Pedro ending up on his roof at Micky's!!??

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Solberg is fighting back after his puncture and only 4.5s off the lead of WRC3 / R5.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej9aK_TX0AAFYV2?format=jpg&name=large

[dimviii]

Johnston roll
https://www.wrc.com/en/archive/videos/?videoId=249756

[doubled1978]

So - the BIG question:

Does Tommi dare putting Evans ahead of Ogier?

Lead (We know what Adamo will do...)

No way Ogier would accept that when he still has chance for the title himself, and Tommi has not shown any inclination to make team orders anyway.
The difficult one is if Hyundai ask Sordo to let Neuville past, but with such a small gap to Ogier would be dangerous now.
For Evans, 4th is good if Ogier is only 3rd and especially if Sordo wins..

[er88]

Neuville HAS to go for it, he needs to increase the gap to Ogier if he wants Hyundai to drop Sordo behind him tomorrow.
With the gap between Neuville and Ogier so small, it's impossible for Hyundai to drop Sordo behind Thierry without losing a place to Ogier as well.

[dimviii]

Media Zone: Sordo

"A really good feeling. The first stage was a bit more difficult but the second and fourth stages were quite okay.
"I am only watching the battle for the rally and trying to do the best as possible. I see Thierry and Seb coming quite fast, so we need to keep pushing to the end."



Media Zone: Suninen

"We had a few issues with the central diffs, so basically my handbrake was working for the front wheels and I couldn't rotate the car on the hairpins.
"The others are not too far away, but of course we have to have good stages and no mistakes to catch them. We will do our best."


Media Zone: Neuville

"We have a bit more tyre wear than the Toyotas, so I played it a bit safe. Maybe I struggled a little bit in the first loop - I expected to be faster - but we gave it a bigger push in the second pass and it worked quite well.
"The rally is still long with repeated stages this afternoon and a tricky day tomorrow."

[AnttiL]

Please tell me someone has video of Pedro ending up on his roof at Micky's!!??

https://twitter.com/bartolbia84/status/1314909172857745408?s=21

[Simmi]

https://twitter.com/bartolbia84/status/1314909172857745408?s=21

Cheers Antti. Beat me to it.

Got to say he's pretty unlucky here.

[EstWRC]

#RallyItaliaSardegna

Michelin Tyre info - SS11/SS12

Toyota
Ogier: 3 MICHELIN LTX Force M6 + 2H4
Evans: 2M6 + 3H4
Katsuta: 4M6 + 1H4

Hyundai
Tänak: 1M6 + 4H4
Neuville/Sordo/Loubet: 5M6

M-Sport
Suninen Teemu 5M6

#MichelinWRC

[EstWRC]

Sordo and cows https://www.instagram.com/p/CGKYwQlIL7a/?igshid=1k3tcqkzqowv

[Rallyper]

So, let´s go!

(Already made the dishes for tonight, ready to eat just after these two stages)

[meh]

Tänak is in pin-ball mode with those hard-tyres. Hopefully will not take any feel off somewhere.

[EstWRC]

Tänak all over the place with the hard tyres

[wwbroe]

Katsuta having serious problems

[Mirek]

Katsuta having serious problems

No brakes

[EstWRC]

Evans showing very mature drive so far

rooting for him now after Tänaks title changes are gone

[wwbroe]

Thierry loosing it once again towards the finish of the stage.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great Ogier - Neuville battle while Evans watches on.

[EstWRC]

Thierry loosing it once again towards the finish of the stage.

the same pattern all day long

[Rallyper]

No splits...?

Edit: My computer...

[jonkka]

No splits...?

Just very late splits... Visible now...

[jonkka]

Suninen wants 4th back from Evans...

[meh]

If to take in account that Tänak is in no-mans-land, with no fight for position etc, then it's quite good time from that road position - only 3sec down on Ogier.

[steve.mandzij]

Ahh, I want Sordo to win, but should he drop to fourth and the rest stay in the same positions I've got the top 5 pickems settled!

[Rallyper]

That would also mean helping Ogier in the battle for the championship, anyway too early to say what will happen. They'll probably let them all push on and see what's on the table before the powerstage.

I´m not arguing for this, but...

Letting Neuville win he gaines 7 points going from 2nd to 1st, and Ogier gaines only 3 points, from 3rd to 2nd...

If the WDC was the most important...

[wwbroe]

If to take in account that Tänak is in no-mans-land, with no fight for position etc, then it's quite good time from that road position - only 3sec down on Ogier.

And he was the only one with four hard tyres on the car, makes it even better, struggling in the beginning but paying off in the end apparently.

[Fredouye]

Ogier in Castelsardo

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201010/c2f5fce874f8e2ea6459cd49a2f74784.jpg

[wwbroe]

Great time by OC Veiby on this stage.

[Mirek]

Solberg passed Gryazin who let him pass.

[Rallyper]

"Not bad, is it?" Oliver quoted... :)

[denkimi]

If to take in account that Tänak is in no-mans-land, with no fight for position etc, then it's quite good time from that road position - only 3sec down on Ogier.
Anyone with a puncture will end up about where he is. He is not 20 minutes or so behind, so he could still make up places.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

If to take in account that Tänak is in no-mans-land, with no fight for position etc, then it's quite good time from that road position - only 3sec down on Ogier.

Tanak is probably resigned that the title has gone so he's driving with little pressure and nothing to lose now.

Evans is playing the smart game. He's taking less risks and Ogier & Neuville could easily push too hard and have a problem.

[meh]

Now there is more question do Tänak drives "with anger" or Taka made some good time.

[EstWRC]

Ott has no motivation at all

[er88]

Tanak? Seemed a bit rude that.....

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Think Evans is having a bit of a push to stay safe from Suninen.

[Rallyper]

Ott has no motivation at all

He should have. Never give up, you know.

[erikli2]

Ott won't be remembered for his stage end interviews or karisma..

[Mirek]

Ogier's onboard was very brutal :)

[dimviii]

Rovanperä will not restart on Sunday

The Toyota team has confirmed that Rovanperä will not restart on Sunday. The damage sustained to his Yaris this morning is too severe to repair.

https://www.wrc.com/?proxy=redaktion/Season-2020-NEWS/WRC/10_October/Sardegna-Live-Text/101020_rovanpera_damage.jpeg

[TypeR]

it was totally normal question about tires.. he didn't ask his wife's number or smth.. :D
impolite answer

[Mirek]

Neuville nearly crashed...

[EstWRC]

again Thierry is giving everything away in the end

[Fast Eddie WRC]

As I said earlier - Neuville pushing a bit too hard and nearly off.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej-kesJWkAE-p4v?format=jpg&name=medium

[wwbroe]

Ogier up to second now

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier Sébastien - Ingrassia Julien
"It's important to beat him [Neuville] after tomorrow!"

[Rallyper]

However I do think Neuville will be fastest tomorrow...

[Mirek]

Ogier Sébastien - Ingrassia Julien
"It's important to beat him [Neuville] after tomorrow!"

It looses the point without the question though.
The question was: "How important is it to be beat Neuville after today?"

[dimviii]

Neuville tyres

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej-klXmWAAAFKak?format=jpg&name=small

[Fast Eddie WRC]

FIA rally director Yves Matton has responded to Ogier's renewed road order criticism, but the Toyota driver isn't having it: "Bullsh*t. This is pure bullsh*t.”

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/matton-responds-to-ogiers-amateur-criticism/

[meh]

Ott won't be remembered for his stage end interviews or karisma..

Not sure about that. I think a lot of people actually like this a bit arrogant attitude not always correct and nice learned answers from PR department. You just should not take it too seriously :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It looses the point without the question though.
The question was: "How important is it to be beat Neuville after today?"

It was a joke, lighten up.

[Sulland]

It irritates the hell out of me that the WRC all live team can not show the top rally2 and 3 cars as they did in SS11!
:arrows::hot:

[AnttiL]

It irritates the hell out of me that the WRC all live team can not show the top rally2 and 3 cars as they did in SS11!
:arrows::hot:

Helicopter and transmitter plane probably running out of fuel as these two stages were run back to back.

[satukata]

where is oliver?

[erikli2]

where is oliver?

Stopped on stage

[wwbroe]

Stopped on stage
What happened?

[denkimi]

FIA rally director Yves Matton has responded to Ogier's renewed road order criticism, but the Toyota driver isn't having it: "Bullsh*t. This is pure bullsh*t.”

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/matton-responds-to-ogiers-amateur-criticism/
This is why people don't like ogier.

[erikli2]

What happened?

Unclear, but he is still stopped on the live map.

Update: He has crashed acc. to e-wrc

[mknight]

Neuville tyres

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej-klXmWAAAFKak?format=jpg&name=small

They had this issue both in Sardinia and Turkey last year. A bit less this year but still eating tires more than Toyota in hot conditions.

[Rallyper]

Oliver unfortenately crashed.

Not surprising, though. Too much pace. He should´ve taking it a bit more easy...

[bluuford]

What happened?

from the look of it, it looks like the corner where Toni Gardemeister rolled in 200? something and Jari made a mistake in this corner last year :P

[dimviii]

Oliver unfortenately crashed.

Not surprising, though. Too much pace. He should´ve taking it a bit more easy...

+1

at least we saw tat he has pace at every surface.

[meh]

This is why people don't like ogier.

I could put +1 for Ogier here. You can beautify the message, but the message is clear. Attitude is understandable after day pushing like hell and watching seconds fading away during cleaning road for your competitors.

[TypeR]

According to official @Michelin_Motorsports twitter tyre posts, the tyrewise situation before last day is pretty interesting..
Tänak and Neuville played a bit wrong..?

24 tyres allowed, chosen from 24M and 16H tyres.
https://www.upload.ee/image/12374439/tyres.JPG

[dimviii]

Sordo must be left with 4 new hards

[AnttiL]

Miikka Anttila said on Finnish TV that medium is the default tyre so they should have enough of them for the whole rally.

Also, remember that the afternoon loops have been short so they could have used old tyres from yesterday afternoon on this afternoon

[satukata]

Oliver unfortenately crashed.

Not surprising, though. Too much pace. He should´ve taking it a bit more easy...

This reminds me Kalles off in mexico with skoda. Too fast

[denkimi]

I could put +1 for Ogier here. You can beautify the message, but the message is clear. Attitude is understandable after day pushing like hell and watching seconds fading away during cleaning road for your competitors.
The message is wrong, no matter which words he uses.

You can't get rid of cleaning. Someone always has to open the road, conditions will never be equal.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Whining only when you lose, and keeping quiet when you win makes him a bad loser.

[Rallyper]

Seems Oliver went off and got stuck.

"barely some scratches..."

Car will probably be ok for tomorrow.

[Rallyper]

This reminds me Kalles off in mexico with skoda. Too fast

Yeah. And that was a hard one. I remember...
But one could say he learnt something out of it, too.

[AnttiL]

Do you mean Kalle’s Argentina 2018 crash when you talk about Mexico?

Anyway, Oliver just got stuck in a ditch, no damage to the car

[dimviii]

Solbergs fabia unscratched
https://twitter.com/OliverSolberg01/status/1314990518531743744

[dimviii]

Citroën Racing
@CitroenRacing


On the first stage of the day, @Rosselyohan
, N. Ciamin had technical issue which forced them to retire for today but they will be back in full force tomorrow.


The frenchman, @EricCamilli
went off the road after a misunderstanding of the notes.

[mknight]

According to official @Michelin_Motorsports twitter tyre posts, the tyrewise situation before last day is pretty interesting..
Tänak and Neuville played a bit wrong..?

24 tyres allowed, chosen from 24M and 16H tyres.
https://www.upload.ee/image/12374439/tyres.JPG

This has been the standard on gravel rallies for a while.

With 5 "sections" you can have 5 fresh tires in every "section" (after service), 2x friday, 2x saturday, 1 sunday

If you take 6 at some point and "rotate" them during the section so that they get worn you will have to run on a few used tires on sunday. But usually not all tires are that used and most of sunday is cruising for a lot of people so that running on 1 or 2 slightly used tires is not a problem.

[dimviii]

also they have to think about the punctured tyres

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej_p1fiXsAcs_6_?format=jpg&name=large

[EstWRC]

Haha https://twitter.com/dirtfishrally/status/1315020242280685568?s=21

[Fredouye]

Average weather this morning...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201011/09855d575bcb9082a50253688942f89b.jpg

[dimviii]

dirtfishrally
@DirtFishRally
·
19m
High-risk strategy hanging out the washing in Alghero this morning. It’s just started raining...



Nikolay Gryazin
@nikolay_gryazin

Much to our regret, it turns out the technical issue we had experienced during the evening section is unfixable even in the service. Rally Sardinia is over for us.

[Fredouye]

It stopped raining half an hour ago...and less wind also.

[dimviii]

from French forum

Thierry Neuville: "I have not yet had any discussions about this subject but I think the answer is already very clear ...

Dani is not in a championship fight and although he deserves to win, we are on our side still in a title fight so I think the answer is very simple. "

[AnttiL]

https://twitter.com/arnaudremy/status/1315165723040329728?s=21

[er88]

from French forum

Thierry Neuville: "I have not yet had any discussions about this subject but I think the answer is already very clear ...

Dani is not in a championship fight and although he deserves to win, we are on our side still in a title fight so I think the answer is very simple. "All that is very true. But Thierry needs to first overhaul Ogier, and then maybe even get a 10+ second advantage - otherwise he can kiss goodbye to team orders. Hyundai won't be demoting Sordo to 3rd due to the manufacturers championship bid, so I find it hard to see how team orders can be implemented as things stand with the gap so small.

[EstWRC]

well its his logic, he is saing he hasnt discussed with the team yet but already thinks he will be let by.

[dimviii]

Michelin Motorsport
@Michelin_Sport
·
5m
#RallyItaliaSardegna

Michelin Tyre info - SS13/SS14/SS15/SS16

Toyota
Ogier/Evans/Katsuta: 5 MICHELIN LTX Force M6

Hyundai
Tänak/Neuville/Sordo/Loubet: 5 MICHELIN LTX Force M6

M-Sport:
Suninen/Greensmith: 55 MICHELIN LTX Force M6

[TypeR]

damn.. Suninen and Greensmith really taking it extra safe.. :D :D

[EstWRC]

sky is pretty clear, doesnt seem any rain coming

[erikli2]

Great stage, no room for error but still quite fast.

[EstWRC]

Ott not holding tyres?

[erikli2]

Ott not holding tyres?

He's probably hoping for a puncture or an issue for someone in front. The distance isn't astronomical so if anything happens he can't afford to be going slowly. My guess

[er88]

Suninen "sending it" again?

Edit - Becs got the split wrong, hes 5 down

[wwbroe]

Becs with wrong information about Suninen split

[EstWRC]

Teemu with problems? thats a huge loss

didnt want to talk either

[wwbroe]

Neuville on a charge

[wwbroe]

Same split for Ogier

[er88]

This could be mega from Seb and Thierry today.

But the championship is gone if either risks it all and crashes out

[wwbroe]

What a battle

[wwbroe]

Ogier a fraction quicker now

[EstWRC]

haha the same time basically

[wwbroe]

Some damage to Sordo's car

[meh]

Ogier is going to win this one, isn't he?

[TypeR]

Sordo, don't mess it up now..

Finally Ogier for the win..

[erikli2]

Don't think team orders within Hyundai will be needed by the end of the day

[wwbroe]

Twelfe seconds lost for Danni

[wwbroe]

It is going to be a fight between Neuville and Ogier for overall victory if Sordo cannot keep the pace up.

[er88]

Weird time from Dani considering his pace all of yesterday.

Very interested to see how he reacts on the next one. If he loses another 4-5secs Ogier AND Neuville could get him.

[AnttiL]

It's now already a three-way fight for the win.

Some problems for Suninen or terribly out of pace...

Now some second breakfast for the TV stage

[wwbroe]

Poor performance by Pontus on this one

[wwbroe]

And what a great time by Mads:eek:

[Fredouye]

Sun is coming

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201011/d66ce3b6d8c39de416ec8582851a609e.jpg

[wwbroe]

Huge crask for Katsuta

[er88]

Massive off. Blocking the road....

[AnttiL]

Another binned Yaris for Katsuta

[EstWRC]

man they were lucky not rolling down the hill there

[er88]

This stage could be in trouble....

[erikli2]

Didn't look like they cut the left hander that much to be honest

[er88]

They've got it moved. Quality.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Didn't look like they cut the left hander that much to be honest

Yeah, just slightly clipped it and was launched - no room for errors on this narrow section of the stage.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkB8mnNXcAAT0t2?format=jpg&name=large

[erikli2]

Katsuta crash, looks like he clipped it with the rear wheel.

https://twitter.com/Burgrid7/status/1315189322979717121?s=09

[cali]

Weird time from Dani considering his pace all of yesterday.

Very interested to see how he reacts on the next one. If he loses another 4-5secs Ogier AND Neuville could get him.Starting position advantage throughout the whole rally. Today the advantage is basically gone.

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[meh]

Starting position advantage throughout the whole rally. Today the advantage is basically gone.

That's why I call Suninen "Friday Man" - can show good times from good road position on gravel rallies, everyone go out of mind. And then reality comes during next days.

[AnttiL]

Starting position advantage throughout the whole rally. Today the advantage is basically gone.

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Yesterday there was no considerable advantage but he was only 8.6 seconds slower than Ogier and 6.3 slower than Neuville, during the whole day.

https://www.ewrc-results.com/leg/60433-rally-italia-sardegna-2020/?leg=2

[EstWRC]

Tänak was like mad man on this stage, wonderfull to watch

[er88]

Starting position advantage throughout the whole rally. Today the advantage is basically gone.

Sent from my GM1913 using TapatalkI don't agree with that time loss being down to that. There was one car between Sordo and Neuville yesterday. Two between him and Ogier.

Yet he lost 12s in one stage this morning, which was double what he lost to Neuville in the whole of yesterday.

[wwbroe]

Neuville flying again

[EstWRC]

man Thierry giving also everything, also wonderful wo watch :D

[erikli2]

Incredible fight!

[jonkka]

Just 0.1s difference any more?!?

[wwbroe]

What a fight:eek:

[EstWRC]

this is so 2018 all over again

[er88]

When Neuville sends it, there's not much better in rallying. When he goes for it I'm always reminded of that Golden Stage in Cyprus in 2011.