[WRC] Rally Mexico 2020

[AnttiL]

The itinerary was published today

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJs4b1AWkAAkMSy?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJuW7K5XUAABr5F?format=png&name=900x900

- Guanajuato street stage driven twice on Thursday
- Las Minas is driven twice on Friday
- Parque Bicentenario super special returns from 2014
- new Street Stage Leon is only 910 metres long. It would be the shortest stage ever run in the WRC
- Alfaro twice on Saturday and Otates once on Sunday, conversely from last year. These stages probably share most of their route
- Derramadero stage returns for Saturday, probably ends with El Brinco jump
- "Rock and Rally" super special. Length does not match to other super specials...
- New stage(?) San Diego on Sunday
- El Brinco is now the power stage
- 24 stages, of which 9 super specials

[Katvala]

More than a third of the stages Super specials? Might have to give them a new name then...


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[AnttiL]

https://twitter.com/RafaMSport/status/1223286640552161282

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPn8seTWsAAyddt?format=jpg&name=medium

The shortest WRC stage ever.

[jbmarcus21]

2020 Mexico Google Earth Map is now online ► http://bit.ly/37kvgS8

[AnttiL]

Route preview: https://itgetsfasternow.com/2020/02/17/route-preview-rally-mexico-2020/

It will probably be slightly faster overall route than last year. Street Stage Leon might be the shortest WRC stage ever, but Otates at 33 km is the longest stage of the first half of the season!

The start list isn't out yet, but I would assume the starting order to be the following:

1. Evans
2. Neuville
3. Ogier
4. Rovanperä
5. Lappi
6. Tänak
7. Suninen
8. Sordo

[AnttiL]

Hyundai announced that they go to Mexico with Neuville, Tänak and Sordo, like expected.

[Micke_VOC]

When is entrylist published ?

[pantealex]

When is entrylist published ?

Should be this week.

[Andre Oliveira]

Should be 20th February...

[Damian Baldi]

The young champion of the argentinean rally (RC2A class) Martín Suriani will take part of the WRC on Mexico and Argentina with a RSR Clio Rally 5.

He will compete only in these two american races.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Block to enter and compete.

[AnttiL]

Block to enter and compete.

With Escort? ;)

[pantealex]

I fear that there will be less than 20 FIA cars :(

[rallyfiend]

I fear that there will be less than 20 FIA cars :(

I think there will be more than that.

Expect:
- 9 WRC cars
- 5 WRC2 cars (it's one of the nominated events)
- 10 WRC 3 cars
Plus some other randoms...

[AnttiL]

I think there will be more than that.

Expect:
- 9 WRC cars
- 5 WRC2 cars (it's one of the nominated events)
- 10 WRC 3 cars
Plus some other randoms...

Last year:
- 10 WRC
- 1 WRC2 Pro
- 4 WRC2
- 8 NACAM cars

I can't expect those numbers be any greater. Are you sure about Mexico being nominated for WRC2?

[rallyfiend]

Last year:
- 10 WRC
- 1 WRC2 Pro
- 4 WRC2
- 8 NACAM cars

I can't expect those numbers be any greater. Are you sure about Mexico being nominated for WRC2?

https://www.wrc.com/en/championship/support-championships/wrc-2/

[PLuto]

- 5 WRC2 cars (it's one of the nominated events)


Can you tell me what you means with this nominated events?

[PLuto]

Regulations regarding WRC2 says: Any team registered in WRC2 may not enter more than two (2) cars in each championship rally and must participate in a minimum of 8 rallies with a minimum of one car, including one rally outside of Europe. All cars will be taken into account for the points.

[AnttiL]

At one point there were two nominated events out of Europe out of which one must be contested. One of them was Japan, other possibly New Zealand? I can't find that information right now.

Anyway, WRC2 drivers and teams can enter as many rallies as they want - it's only 8 best that count. It depends on how much they want the title and how much they are willing to throw money at it. All overseas rounds could be like "free points" with possibly being the only car of the series.

[rallyfiend]

The link I posted to WRC.com clearly states that Mexico and Japan are the two events that WRC2 competitors must do at least one of.

The other overseas events are not WRC2 events...

[PLuto]

The link I posted to WRC.com clearly states that Mexico and Japan are the two events that WRC2 competitors must do at least one of.

The other overseas events are not WRC2 events...

This is info only on wrc.com site. Thats all. I have sent you sentence from valid regulations...

[pantealex]

The link I posted to WRC.com clearly states that Mexico and Japan are the two events that WRC2 competitors must do at least one of.

The other overseas events are not WRC2 events...

Argentina:
https://www.wrc.com/en/championship/calendar/wrc/rally-argentina/overview/
Categories wrc/WRC2/wrc3

NZ:
https://www.wrc.com/en/championship/calendar/wrc/rally-new-zealand/overview/
Categories wrc/WRC2/wrc3

so WRC.com has all overseas as WRC2 events...

[pantealex]

Østberg has said that his next WRC start is Portugal, so it seems that Mexico or Argentina aren´t mandatory.

[SubaruNorway]

Østberg has said that his next WRC start is Portugal, so it seems that Mexico or Argentina aren´t mandatory.

From what i heard they changed it because nobody wanted to do Mexico in an even slower R5

[PLuto]

From what i heard they changed it because nobody wanted to do Mexico in an even slower R5

Which in the final will not be true as some WRC2/3 entries will be there.

[dupanton]

Both Gryazin and Veiby cars are on their way to Mexico. They were spotted in Belgium in a transport "crate"

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rhys Yates (M-Sport WRC-2) confirmed he will be going to Rally Japan, not Mexico.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Pontus Tidemand just confirmed for Mexico.

[pantealex]

Kajto, Heller, one DS 3 R5 driver and Oliver Solberg are confirmed, so some Rally2 (RC2) cars are entered.

[AnttiL]

With Escort? ;)

Yes ;)

https://www.dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/ken-block-to-make-wrc-return-in-mexico/

[BigWorm]

Entries are out: https://www.rallymexico.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/EntriesMx20-V.1.3.pdf

[AnttiL]

Surprising to see Greensmith and Jocius there, making it four Fiesta WRCs!

[pantealex]

Surprising to see Greensmith

Mexico and Argentina are both part of his original plans (9 WRC rallies this year)
so no surprise at all.

[AnttiL]

I didn't remember that those nine rallies were specified. What are the rest?

[pantealex]

I didn't remember that those nine rallies were specified. What are the rest?

He is skipping Safari, NZ and Japan.

[KiwiWRCfan]

from January 9th
https://www.thepitcrewonline.net/2020/01/09/interview-with-gus-greensmith-autosport-international-2020/

[jbmarcus21]

All wrc drivers program for 2020 ► http://bit.ly/2CJdyKd ;)

[dimviii]

https://www.dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/tanak-confident-for-mexico-after-hyundai-gravel-debut/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

"WRC heads to Mexico with eye on coronavirus crisis – DirtFish" https://www.dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/wrc-heads-to-mexico-with-eye-on-coronavirus-crisis

[dimviii]

Lboro Sport Services
@Lboro_Sci_Med
Some great work by @ElfynEvans (@redbull
) in our environmental chamber this past week, preparing for the heat and altitude of Mexico and the next @OfficialWRC
race, including sleeping at altitude at the @EAC_hotel

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESRwwKeXcAUaejS?format=jpg&name=small
.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

From Dirtfish...

Q: Is rain your only chance of winning ?

Evans: I wouldn’t say that, but rain would improve our chances tremendously. There’s always a chance it can rain – admittedly it’s a very, very small chance. And, to be honest, it would have to absolutely piss it down for ages to make a real change. It’s warm and in some sections really quite exposed and windy, the road dries quickly there.

[pantealex]

Entries are out: https://www.rallymexico.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/EntriesMx20-V.1.3.pdf

https://www.rallymexico.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/EntriesMx20-V.1.9.pdf

New version:
#34 Deividas Jocius LTU (Fiesta WRC) has withdrawn again
#34 Barry Mckenna IRL (Fabia Rally2) in for WRC3

only 9 WRC cars, so it´s 99,99% sure that some Rally2 driver(s) will get real WRC point(s). (0,01% for Rally5 or all DNF)

[steve.mandzij]

https://www.rallymexico.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/EntriesMx20-V.1.9.pdf

New version:
#34 Deividas Jocius LTU (Fiesta WRC) has withdrawn again
#34 Barry Mckenna IRL (Fabia Rally2) in for WRC3

only 9 WRC cars, so it´s 99,99% sure that some Rally2 driver(s) will get real WRC point(s). (0,01% for Rally5 or all DNF)So if R5 is now Rally2 what do we call retired returning drivers? Super Rally again?

[AnttiL]

So if R5 is now Rally2 what do we call retired returning drivers? Super Rally again?

"Restart rules"

[EstWRC]

finally a rally week. i dont know, the season is kind of slow starting this year, after Mexico again we have a huge gap...

Anyway, im excited as hell.

How is gonna Evans perform now when starting first? so far his only experience starting from first is when starting with Rally2 but then you are just cruising but now he has to show performance and thats a whole different thing.

Ogier has won this rally 5 times and has a good starting position and last year he was class of his own even when starting from 2nd! But the question with him, Evans and Rovanpera is the reliability of Toyota. So far every year the Toyotas have had problems here, in 2018 for example all 3 having engine overheating problems, last year 2 of the 3 Toyotas had problems. So it remains to be seen if they finally have sorted out the problems.

What can Tänak show on his first outing on gravel? Sordo is in very good position. Lappi is getting more and more comfortable with Fiesta, IMO he had a very good performance in Sweden, not so far off from the Toyotas of Ogier and Rovanpera.

LIke i said, its gonna be a very interesting weekend. Cant wait.

[AnttiL]

finally a rally week. i dont know, the season is kind of slow starting this year, after Mexico again we have a huge gap...

Anyway, im excited as hell.

How is gonna Evans perform now when starting first?

He will lose a lot. He just needs to hold it together and aim for a top 5 position after Friday and hope that others have issues later in the rally.




Ogier has won this rally 5 times and has a good starting position and last year he was class of his own even when starting from 2nd!
...
What can Tänak show on his first outing on gravel? Sordo is in very good position.

True, Ogier has usually been first or second on the road in Mexico, but third is still quite slippery compared to sixth of Tänak or ninth of Sordo. In fact, I think the win is between these two. If they don't have issues, it's a 1-2.

M-Sport has been on the podium the last three years but I don't think it will happen this year. Lappi and Suninen have really struggled in Mexico with WRC cars.

I'm happy if Rovanperä gets through the rally with no issues and is not the slowest WRC on every stage.



LIke i said, its gonna be a very interesting weekend. Cant wait.
+1

[pantealex]

I'm happy if Rovanperä gets through the rally with no issues and is not the slowest WRC on every stage.




I´m not, Kalle must be faster than Greensmith.

If Kalle has no issues he will be Top6, just like all other trouble free WRC drivers.

[AnttiL]

If Kalle has no issues he will be Top6, just like all other trouble free WRC drivers.

You mean Top 8?

[pantealex]

You mean Top 8?

No Top 6 just like all other trouble free WRC drivers. (some will have problems)

[AnttiL]

No Top 6 just like all other trouble free WRC drivers. (some will have problems)

So you know that exactly two drivers will have issues ;)

In 2019 three cars with no issues. Neuville and Meeke had punctures, the rest had to use superrally or retired.
In 2018 four cars with no issues, Loeb with a puncture, Neuville with engine issues and puncture/off.
In 2017 three cars with no issues. Tänak with overheating problems, Paddon with various mechanical problems, Toyotas with all kinds of issues, Sordo and Evans with engine problems.

[pantealex]

So you know that exactly two drivers will have issues ;)



No, I don´t :)

Places 1-6 are Top 6 places ;)

[Rallyper]

Ten WRC drivers make four can have troubles...

[pantealex]

Ten WRC drivers make four can have troubles...

There is only 9.

[AnttiL]

https://www.rallit.fi/toyotan-wrc-tiimilta-jai-tarkea-paivitys-tekematta-tommi-makinen-jaimme-nyt-nuolemaan-nappejamme/

Toyota were supposed to get an engine software update but couldn't homologate it in time because of a storm which prevented the FIA personnel to fly to Finland. Now they don't get its benefit and data in Mexico.

[Rallyper]

There is only 9.

Did you count Jocius? Or he withdraw...?

[AnttiL]

Did you count Jocius? Or he withdraw...?

Withdrawn.

[Sulland]

So if R5 is now Rally2 what do we call retired returning drivers? Super Rally again?

Or just Retired.
If you are out, you are out of the rally. No restart allowed if you are over the time limit.

[pantealex]

Or just Retired.
If you are out, you are out of the rally. No restart allowed if you are over the time limit.

What ???

[pantealex]

Did you count Jocius? Or he withdraw...?

Post #42 in this same chain. :)

[Rallyper]

Post #42 in this same chain. :)

Didn´t notice. Sorry. You know me... ;)

[dimviii]

https://twitter.com/MattJelonek/status/1237534627847213059

[Tarmop]

Seems that have to take the max. out of this weekend, looking at general trends in the world and cancellations of motorsport events in Argentina.

[EstWRC]

some words from drivers by dirtfish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J53ruU3jPnE

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ES2ypzzUUAMoRET?format=jpg&name=medium

[RS]

Seems that have to take the max. out of this weekend, looking at general trends in the world and cancellations of motorsport events in Argentina.

I would hope that rallying is more immune as spectators are spread over a wider area generally and not sitting close together in a stadium. I guess the general movement of staff and spectators globally is still an issue though.

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/b5L41bYB-RA

[the sniper]

I would hope that rallying is more immune as spectators are spread over a wider area generally and not sitting close together in a stadium. I guess the general movement of staff and spectators globally is still an issue though.

It'd be nice if rallying could broadly escape this whole sorry thing by dropping SSS, but I fear that is highly unlikely to be the case.

[Katvala]

Closing borders and quarantines and so on will affect WRC as well.

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[AnttiL]

Closing borders and quarantines and so on will affect WRC as well.

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There's already an Italian team in Mexico who doesn't know how they will get home.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Soon time for Shakedown. :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ES5jFikWkAEI61g?format=jpg&name=large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans faster than Neuville & Ogier on the first run despite sweeping the stage.

[EstWRC]

Ogier wanting to cancel the race

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak with an incident.

[EstWRC]

turned in to deep and hit a post and half a spin

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice time Teemu.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

turned in to deep and hit a post and half a spin

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ES6-dGRWAAYDXkb?format=jpg&name=large

[EstWRC]

well, they should be way faster than Evans acutally

lets see Sordo

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Suninen still fastest.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak
https://twitter.com/Karlip1/status/1238139146402705410

[EstWRC]

Tanak
https://twitter.com/Karlip1/status/1238139146402705410

lost about 11-12 secs

[AnttiL]

The pace of Evans was amazing being first on the road.

Now on second run, Tänak is fastest and Rovanperä second fastest

[EstWRC]

just a shakedown but Rovanpera is showing really good times at the moment

and now everybody went to service

[the sniper]

Ogier wanting to cancel the race

I can imagine him withdrawing.

[Tauri_J]

What Ogier said? I missed his interview

[EstWRC]

What Ogier said? I missed his interview

seemed to be in quite bad mood and said it is strange to be and race here, when asked why then pointed that the world is in crisis at the moment and thats why

the guys now heaeding to the stage again

[EstWRC]

Ogier now on third run 0.5 faster than Tänaks second run

[TypeR]

Evans equals with Ogier's time

[EstWRC]

i dont know if there is stoppage or something but no one going onto to the stage at the moment.


but nobody besides me isnt interested here in the shakedown anyway, lol

[rage82]

i dont know if there is stoppage or something but no one going onto to the stage at the moment.


but nobody besides me isnt interested here in the shakedown anyway, lolEverybody's watching the news about coronavirus :)

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[meh]

Evans, Tänak, Sordo, Rovenperä seems to wait something... Lappi is joining them now.

[br21]

i dont know if there is stoppage or something but no one going onto to the stage at the moment.


but nobody besides me isnt interested here in the shakedown anyway, lol

P3 can only just start driving shakedown, so probably that's the reason.
And I'm following also, as events I should attend were canceled, so I have time...:(

[EstWRC]

okay things are moving now, Suninen on the startline

[pantealex]

i dont know if there is stoppage or something but no one going onto to the stage at the moment.


but nobody besides me isnt interested here in the shakedown anyway, lol

Those who are interested of shakedown are following it, not chatting here :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Earlier on Julian Porter made a good point about the Shakedown's... they often set the tone for a driver's weekend.

[Tarmop]

And they often dont`t...

[RS]

seemed to be in quite bad mood and said it is strange to be and race here, when asked why then pointed that the world is in crisis at the moment and thats why

the guys now heaeding to the stage again

Now that all the team personnel are in Mexico and the event has started I don’t see a lot of sense in stopping it really. The spectators are outdoors and not in a confined space.

If they were to cancel it they should have done so a week or two ago.

[EstWRC]

Now that all the team personnel are in Mexico and the event has started I don’t see a lot of sense in stopping it really. The spectators are outdoors and not in a confined space.

If they were to cancel it they should have done so a week or two ago.

only eight COVID cases confirmed and 37 being monitored.

but like you said, the rally has started anyway

[Fast Eddie WRC]

And they often dont`t...

Yeah, the slowest shakedowners always win dont they...

[cali]

Yeah, the slowest shakedowners always win dont they...Tänak has never really topped shakedowns so your theory doesn't apply

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tänak has never really topped shakedowns so your theory doesn't apply

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Setting the tone isnt just being fastest.
And it wasnt my theory.

But some posters on here set the tone for a rally weekend by being as contrary as possible.

[AnttiL]

Tänak had a technical failure on last year's Mexico shakedown but the rally itself went without problems.

Meeke was often fastest on the shakedown but out of pace or off road in the rally itself.

Remember that drivers use the shakedown for different purposes. Others try to go as fast as possible, some try different settings, others just warm up their muscles and bolts.

[cali]

Tänak had a technical failure on last year's Mexico shakedown but the rally itself went without problems.

Meeke was often fastest on the shakedown but out of pace or off road in the rally itself.

Remember that drivers use the shakedown for different purposes. Others try to go as fast as possible, some try different settings, others just warm up their muscles and bolts.Thanks! As I said this theory is quite nuts and not to be taken very seriously. Conclusions just based on shakedown do not really hold well.

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[er88]

Tanak really should be winning this event, mechanical issues aside.

[EstWRC]

Tanak really should be winning this event, mechanical issues aside.

IF it only would be so easy :D

His second run time is/was very good.

[dimviii]

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2020/photos/rally_guanajuato_mexico_2020/hfr_dsc_4139.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2020/photos/rally_guanajuato_mexico_2020/hfr_dsc_4201.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2020/photos/rally_guanajuato_mexico_2020/hfr_dsc_4134.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2020/photos/rally_guanajuato_mexico_2020/hfr_dsc_3172.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/foto/60429-rally-guanajuato-mexico-2020/515/

[NickRally]

Guys excuse my oblivious question, I am sure you must have clarified this in the past, but seeing Ken Block in a Ford Escort Cosworth and reading competitors can enter in non-homologated cars, can you please provide a pointer to the exact FIA rule allowing this?

[OHL]

Guys excuse my oblivious question, I am sure you must have clarified this in the past, but seeing Ken Block in a Ford Escort Cosworth and reading competitors can enter in non-homologated cars, can you please provide a pointer to the exact FIA rule allowing this?

There isn't a rule per se allowing this. It is instead covered in the event supplementary regulations. You can see them on the event website. There was a bulletin issued stating that the Escort RS Cosworth 94 is eligible for entry in the NACAM championship which runs alongside the WRC event.

[NickRally]

Much appreciated OHL.

[sanorab90]

WRC-Rally Guanajuato Mexico 2020
https://hdstreamingworld.com/rally-mexico/

[wwbroe]

After the two city street stages Neuville in the lead, just a fraction faster then Evans and Tanak. Its only tomorrow the real stages are starting.

[dimviii]

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2020/photos/rally_guanajuato_mexico_2020/vms__dsc3450.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2020/photos/rally_guanajuato_mexico_2020/vms_dsc_1405.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2020/photos/rally_guanajuato_mexico_2020/vms_dsc_1387.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2020/photos/rally_guanajuato_mexico_2020/vms_dsc_1409.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2020/photos/rally_guanajuato_mexico_2020/vms__dsc3490.jpg

https://www.ewrc.cz/foto/60429-rally-guanajuato-mexico-2020/573/

[EstWRC]

Day 1 by dirtfish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IHdZsLAlms

[pantealex]

https://www.rallymexico.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/5.3-Start-List-Section2-TC2C-Friday130320-1.pdf

34 Starters (#50 denied "Stewards Decision1")

28 FIA cars (5 of those Rally5 FWD)

9 WRC3 crews

Better than nothing




After SS2 Swedes have double lead in Rally2/RC2 (Oliver/Pontus)
Long time since that has happened last time...

[PLuto]

There isn't a rule per se allowing this. It is instead covered in the event supplementary regulations. You can see them on the event website. There was a bulletin issued stating that the Escort RS Cosworth 94 is eligible for entry in the NACAM championship which runs alongside the WRC event.

This is not completely correct info. There is a rule about it in WRC regulations:

12.3 NATIONAL/REGIONAL CARS
12.3.1 Cars homologated or approved by the ASN of the organising
country will be permitted to take part in WRC events if
stipulated in the supplementary regulations, without eligibility
to score Championship points.
12.3.2 These cars must, however, comply with the safety requirements
as stipulated in Appendix J, Art. 253 and with all other
applicable provisions and procedures stipulated in the present
Regulations (e.g. tyres, barcodes, fuel, restart regulations etc.).
12.3.3 Prior to the rally, the organiser will propose to the FIA a list of
cars for approval.
12.3.4 Drivers entered in the national class shall always use a different
entry form.


For me it is quite strange that FIA made this special rule for WRC. So in fact, in highest category you can start with any bastard, which doesnt have any valid homologation (I am sure that this car of Block doesnt have at least national homologation), but on other FIA races it is not allowed. Especially with the bad politics of FIA with homologations, when we have not so many new car homologated and lot of countries is making national homologations of some cars, it is another rule which is out of logic...

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ES95fyuXYAU00nh?format=jpg&name=large

[dimviii]

amazing photo

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ES-ivK2XYAAhEFW?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[NickRally]

This is not completely correct info. There is a rule about it in WRC regulations:

12.3 NATIONAL/REGIONAL CARS
12.3.1 Cars homologated or approved by the ASN of the organising
country will be permitted to take part in WRC events if
stipulated in the supplementary regulations, without eligibility
to score Championship points.
12.3.2 These cars must, however, comply with the safety requirements
as stipulated in Appendix J, Art. 253 and with all other
applicable provisions and procedures stipulated in the present
Regulations (e.g. tyres, barcodes, fuel, restart regulations etc.).
12.3.3 Prior to the rally, the organiser will propose to the FIA a list of
cars for approval.
12.3.4 Drivers entered in the national class shall always use a different
entry form.


For me it is quite strange that FIA made this special rule for WRC. So in fact, in highest category you can start with any bastard, which doesnt have any valid homologation (I am sure that this car of Block doesnt have at least national homologation), but on other FIA races it is not allowed. Especially with the bad politics of FIA with homologations, when we have not so many new car homologated and lot of countries is making national homologations of some cars, it is another rule which is out of logic...

Thanks for the additional info Pluto, great stuff.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Suninen says he's been practicing on a karting track as prep for all the Super Special Stages in Mexico !

[TypeR]

Suninen says he's been practicing on a karting track as prep for all the Super Special Stages in Mexico !
Lappi and from Toyota at least Kalle also did the same

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Not one sponsor on Tidemand's Skoda. What is his funding with Toksport ?

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ES_tASxWsAA-u--?format=jpg&name=large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

All driver's have taken 5 Medium tyres for the morning loop.

[AnttiL]

Is the stage schedule moved later? Rally-maps says it should start already in 10 minutes but the All live counter says 17 minutes

[EstWRC]

it seems to, the stage should have started 17.08 in estonian time, live maps show start 10 minutes later now

[tc10a]

No, it was always as 17:18 in the schedules in the latest itinerarys since weeks.

[Sulland]

And we are live!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WRC+ is live.

[Rallyper]

Good afternoon, friends of rallying (to quote our friend Teemu) o an exciting evening (for us in Europe).

Wasn´t this rally called Corona Rally Mexico a few years ago...? :)

[EstWRC]

Thierry 0.6 faster in spl1

[TanelP]

All live keeps buffering, no live picture for me.

[HarriK]

Live not working.. No video on pc or phone app... Fcuk!

[EstWRC]

works fine for me at the moment

Thierry now slower in second split

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Had to switch to BT Sport - black screen on WRC+.

[Rallyper]

Works here in Swe as well

[meh]

Video stream works well, but no split again till first one reach to the finish. 3rd rally in row..

[satukata]

Live not working.. No video on pc or phone app... Fcuk!

Live not working in finland? or is it only my computer?

[Katvala]

I know of one in Finland and one in Estonia it's not working for. Runs fine for me here in Norway

Sent from my F8331 using Tapatalk

[EstWRC]

very even splits so far for my surprise

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Seems Evans doing ok sweeping.

Ogier gaining now though.

[tomhlord]

No WRC+ All Live for me on either computer or mobile app

[satukata]

kalle is great again!

[rp]

Not working in Finland!

[tc10a]

Working fine on all systems, very nice and stable

[Rallyper]

However no splits here in Swe.

[meh]

However no splits here in Swe.

Splits probably are coming when first one is in finish. Some javascript error in WRC+ for that. 3rd rally in row.

[rp]

Not working in Finland!

Not able to sign in anymore via computer or phone! :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Getting CONFIG ERROR #100 on WRC+. :(

[tc10a]

Video stream works well, but no split again till first one reach to the finish. 3rd rally in row..

Splits are also working fine and fast.

[EstWRC]

Tänak fastest so far on splits but only slightly ahead of Ogier

[Rallyper]

Splits probably are coming when first one is in finish. Some javascript error in WRC+ for that. 3rd rally in row.

Yeah! Just like you said! Man! You´re a genius!

[denkimi]

Looks like evans will lose quite some time to ogier and tanak.

[tc10a]

Use the splits on the map, working fine from split 1 to 6

[EstWRC]

big gaps startinfg after split 3

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No Suninen splits ?

[EstWRC]

Ogier looks so exhausted

[Päss1928]

https://www.twitch.tv/drifteduklive4 for those who's wrc+ isn't working (me aswell).

[EstWRC]

Sordo unfortunate again!!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shame for Sordo on his comeback.

[Rallyper]

Turbo hose for Sordo?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak is smashing it.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No Suninen splits ?

Appeared now and going well.

[EstWRC]

nice Ott, it seems it took like half a stage to get the rhytm

and didnt seem to be happy at all with the car

[BigWorm]

Apart from 2018, Mexico isn't very nice to Sordo

[Allez Andruet]

Remember that it was the Toyota why Tänak was so quick last year.

[EstWRC]

nice one Teemu! finally you arrived :D

[denkimi]

Remember that it was the Toyota why Tänak was so quick last year.
It was.

And here road position is the most crucial.

[dimviii]

Kajetan Kajetanowicz
@Kajto_pl
·
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Despite full commitment of the whole team, it was not possible to trace down the problem with electronics. Kajto and Maciek proceeded to the opening special stage and they will do their best to stay in the fight. #wrc
@emocjedopelna
@OfficialWRC
@GrupaLOTOS
#WRClive

[EstWRC]

Veiby also having problems, not a good start for the Hyundais, Toyota guys were also hurrying away from the stopline

[dimviii]

Toyota guys were also hurrying away from the stopline

saw that with Evans,maybe high water temps?

[AnttiL]

Shame for Sordo stopping, but great pace from Tänak like expected. Also great pace from Kalle before the puncture, and well done from Suninen

[EstWRC]

this is now a fast stage, i expect Toyotas go well here

[spiderem]

do you guys have issue with wrc and wrc+?

[satukata]

SS 4 and 5 more cleaning than ss 3

[br21]

all the cars on the overheating limit after such stage, then when you stop there is no airflow so even worse, and road section to next stage quite short so no time to cool it down, so you need to rush

[the sniper]

For anyone without All Live, apparently Solberg has stopped near the end of the last stage.

[EstWRC]

wow Neuville already 2.2 up on Evans on first split

[satukata]

working splits?

[EstWRC]

and Thierry has made a mistake it seems, some aero loose on back and has lost 1.6 in split 2

[Tauri_J]

working splits?

https://sport.postimees.ee/wrc/splittimes

[EstWRC]

Ogier smashing it and Rovanpera taking now slowly after pucnture

[flykas]

do you guys have issue with wrc and wrc+?

Yes. Not working on any device.

[spiderem]

Yes. Not working on any device.

cheers... I was going nuts trying on any device I have at hand.

[Mirek]

do you guys have issue with wrc and wrc+?

Yes, it doesn't work at all.

[EstWRC]

Tänak has lost 20 secs

[AnttiL]

Tänak losing time!

[TypeR]

fck off dot com

[satukata]

car sounds odd

[RS]

Where is Solberg?

[AnttiL]

Where is Solberg?

stopped before end of SS3

[EstWRC]

Tänak has lost further 10 secs, horrible season begnning

[stefanvv]

I have a feeling Ogier will carry the corona here again.

[AnttiL]

So, what did Tänak say after the stage end?

[mknight]

Hyundai first day already looking similar to the disaster last year.

[Oliverk]

So, what did Tänak say after the stage end?
Something about how always and lack of speed.

[Päss1928]

Something about how always and lack of speed.

Heard something like "good that something didn't burn down".

[dimviii]

@DaniSordo
: "Towards kilometer 6 a radiator pipe has come loose and we have had to stop to fix it."

[EstWRC]

everything is still possible for Ott if the car works now, he can take a lot back on afternoon.

Sordos car now workign suddenly

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Had to nip out... what happened to Tanak ?

[dimviii]

Heard something like "good that something didn't burn down".

seems like high water temps,and engine at reduce turbo pressure.

[EstWRC]

Had to nip out... what happened to Tanak ?

overheating engine it seems or something like that

[lnvs]

Remember that it was the Toyota why Tänak was so quick last year.Just like it was the Toyota why he had all those technical issues right. :D

[flat_right]

Maybe it is the same issue as was with Sordo?

[stefanvv]

seems like high water temps,and engine at reduce turbo pressure.

Welcome to Mexico

[denkimi]

Maybe it is the same issue as was with Sordo?
Loose radiator hose.

6km into the stage a radiator pipe came loose so we had to stop to fix it.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good to see Suninen making decent use of his road position.

[EstWRC]

Maybe it is the same issue as was with Sordo?

dont know, unfortunately no commentator at the end of the stage

Mexico has never been good for him, always problems apart from last year

[satukata]

Tanak can still win! If car works...

[flat_right]

Yes, this is true. Hopefully as Ott is quite handy with repairing cars, maybe they can do something and although he lost a lot, there can be quite a decent damage limitation. Still lots of KM-s to go. Fingers crossed.

[AnttiL]

Hyunscheisse.

[Tauri_J]

It would be harder to take back time in the afternoon

[EstWRC]

Yes, this is true. Hopefully as Ott is quite handy with repairing cars, maybe they can do something and although he lost a lot, there can be quite a decent damage limitation. Still lots of KM-s to go. Fingers crossed.


luckily the are basically at the start of the next stage so they have time to repair it

Sordo stopped by him now

[flat_right]

Maybe this "burn" that Järveoja was talking about, was tire pressure light?

[EstWRC]

Tänak moving now, fingers crossed

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Adamo not happy at all.

'Yes, the rally is long but its better if it starts well.'

[EstWRC]

it seems to me he knows but doesnt want to tell

[flat_right]

Wouldn't want to work in Hyundai :D

[Rallyper]

CCF (common cause failure) I do believe...

[TypeR]

oh cmon Ken.. reportedly rolled on SS3..

[EstWRC]

now Neuville slow on first split

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Or Evans was fast...

[wwbroe]

Neuville saying he had a very good stage, surprised that Evans was as quick.

[AnttiL]

DirtFish is now also doing route preview blog posts and stage by stage preview tweets :D

https://twitter.com/DirtFishRally/status/1238513365393301508

https://www.dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/rally-mexico-friday-stage-guide/

BTW I love their stuff but I cannot get over them using imperial lengths on rally stages.

[EstWRC]

it seems on this stage you cant really make a big difference

[flat_right]

Seems Tänak is OK

[EstWRC]

Seems Tänak is OK

nahhhhhhhhh whatever that problem on previous one :o

[steve.mandzij]

I can't believe the WRC app and page, absolutely no info: no text nor splits.

[doubled1978]

Since PartLive isn’t working for me, is Tanak moving properly in this stage?

[wwbroe]

Lappi having fun at stage end interview:D

[satukata]

any working stream?

[wwbroe]

All live working on my mobile phone but not on laptop or desktop

[wyler]

any working stream?

https://www.twitch.tv/prisonxrs

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rear corner was broken.

Tanak's fixed it for sure.

[er88]

BT sport again working fine, albeit with a few picture break up but that's nothing.

[EstWRC]

yeah but how it happened or how?

[er88]

Tanak broke rear corner or something?

[wwbroe]

Tanak saying he had damage after the last one, but managed to fix it to certain degree, but saying he is still in big "shit"

[wwbroe]

Clearly fastest tough

[EstWRC]

Tanak saying he had damage after the last one, but managed to fix it to certain degree, but saying he is still in big "shit"

only a short stage left so i dont get it what he is on about

podium is in possible, win i dont think so anymore

[cali]

All live working on my mobile phone but not on laptop or desktopI don't have AllLive on PC, android TV, WebOS app nor on my android phone. Just great!

Sent from my GM1913 using Tapatalk

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Suninen disappointed with that stage.

[AnttiL]

Greensmith must be disappointed for being the slowest WRC all the time.

[satukata]

Alberto heller?

[steve.mandzij]

Suninen disappointed with that stage.I really don't get it, he should be excited after how shit he's been. I'm excited for him at least :))

[EstWRC]

Tanak broke rear corner or something?

i guess we will find out later at the srvice, i didnt get it oo if it was him or something just broke

if him then a costly mistake

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sordo's car is fine now too !

[AnttiL]

Sordo's car is fine now too !

It was already on the previous stage. Just a loose pipe that they reconnected.

[wwbroe]

Sordo good on splits also

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I really don't get it, he should be excited after how shit he's been. I'm excited for him at least :))

Its because he needed to do better while he has a good road position.

[er88]

only a short stage left so i dont get it what he is on about

podium is in possible, win i dont think so anymore2nd imo is very doable. Maybe catching Ogier will be tough because he will have better road position tomorrow

[krissucool]

Its because he needed to do better while he has a good road position.

I am sure he is happy but trying to stay focussed and not get carried away as a long rally ahead. He needs a good result not being in a good place after 4 stages. Max focus.