[WRC] Rally Catalunya

[go mads]

Hi guys, planning another trip to spain and notice the location of the shakedown stage is unconfirmed, anybody know where its likely to be or when it will be announced?

[Hartusvuori]

Hi guys, planning another trip to spain and notice the location of the shakedown stage is unconfirmed, anybody know where its likely to be or when it will be announced?

Most probably the old one.

[Meekefan]

Hello to everyone.

Firts time I am going to Catalunya for the WRC.
Could someone recommend good spots, if possible with videos, to watch the rally?

Thank you so much.

[Fredouye]

Loeb and Sordo with Neuville : https://twitter.com/HMSGOfficial/status/1168493817558917121?s=19

[mknight]

Loeb and Sordo with Neuville : https://twitter.com/HMSGOfficial/status/1168493817558917121?s=19

It was pretty much in the cards since Loeb didn't drive Germany. Only way that could change was if Mikkelsen was much faster in Germany than Sordo.


The big question here is if Hyundai will introduce some changes to the tarmac car to suit Loeb/Mikkelsen before that. If not we might get another repeat of the terrible performance both showed in Corsica/Germany.

[tommeke_B]

Neuville's performance in Germany was far from terrible...

[AnttiL]

Neuville's performance in Germany was far from terrible...

Sordo and Neuville can drive that car on tarmac. Mikkelsen and Loeb cannot (/haven't so far)

[mknight]

Maybe you should read what I wrote one more time.
I am saying that Loeb (on Corsica) and Mikkelsen (in Germany) had terrible performance cause the tarmac car doesn't suit them.

If Hyundai doesn't actually change the car to suit them it won't matter much which one of them drives. The problem is that Hyundai does not have much reason to do that as long as Neuville and Sordo do well, they might even risk making the car worse for Neuville/Sordo to if they make it suit Loeb/Mikkelsen more.

[deephouse]

Why changing the car. Can't they just setup the each car for their liking? OK the setup have a room for improvements but altogether they will not ruin it for others (I mean Neuville-Sordo). And if it's unproven that Loeb-Mikkelsen are not making results with ''best setup'' they have a job to do to find setup that would make something out of it. I mean We are talking about nine time wdc champion and a three time wrc event winner. I guess they have a little bit of knowledge now after so many years in wrc.

[mknight]

It seems they can't setup the car for the "smooth" driving style for some reason. But it is also true that until this summer it didn't look like they invested any serious effort to it. First with the two testing tarmac rallies for Loeb there seems to be some will to change things. Whether things actually change is another question.

[AnttiL]

They can't make drastic changes without homologation jokers, and that's always irreversible, so it could potentially take away the speed Neuville and Sordo have now. Citroen might have done the same to their tarmac speed (or then they've spent their effort on gravel and all the other teams have gotten better on tarmac)

[go mads]

Most probably the old one.

Not sure, surely if it was the same location it would have already been announced?

[Hartusvuori]

Not sure, surely if it was the same location it would have already been announced?

It'll be the same.

[dck1989]

whats the best car hire company to go with form Barcelona Airport?

[EstWRC]

whats the best car hire company to go with form Barcelona Airport?

we used centauro in 2017, very comfy. They drove us from the airpot to the centauro with their bus and also back. i recommend

[dck1989]

we used centauro in 2017, very comfy. They drove us from the airpot to the centauro with their bus and also back. i recommend

That's who I have used this past 4 years, usually no problem, but last year it just wasn't as good as they previous years!

[AnttiL]

Sunday itinerary changed. La Mussara is now the power stage, and it's driven in the opposite direction.

[polomayu]

Where did you find it's driven in the oposite direction?
In rallyracc web doesn't tell nothing about changing the direction.

[Fredouye]

It's visible here : http://www.rallyracc.com/2019/descargas/etapa3.pdf

[AnttiL]

I believe things like this can be requested by the tv crew in order to get better sceneries for their shots and better terrain for making a live broadcast.

When run in this direction, La Mussara has a super fast ending section. Maybe they will cut that shorter as well, because 20 km is quite lot for a power stage these days.

[df93]

Does anyone know the last time that the La Mussara stage ran?

Who can we all expect to enter?
So far Citroen - Ogier & Lappi, Ford - Evans & Suninen, Hyundai - Neuville, Loeb & Sordo, Toyota - Tanak, Meeke, Latvala, Katsuta.

[KKS]

Does anyone know the last time that the La Mussara stage ran?

Who can we all expect to enter?
So far Citroen - Ogier & Lappi, Ford - Evans & Suninen, Hyundai - Neuville, Loeb & Sordo, Toyota - Tanak, Meeke, Latvala, Katsuta.
https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-de-Espa%C3%B1a-2019/La-Mussara
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[HarriK]

Tuesday 22nd Of October flight from Helsinki to BCN and then by car to Salou with my wife and son. Back 29th. A good holiday and Rally!
Second time in Salou and looking forward again!

[cali]

Tuesday 22nd Of October flight from Helsinki to BCN and then by car to Salou with my wife and son. Back 29th. A good holiday and Rally!
Second time in Salou and looking forward again!I have practically the same timeline. Looking forward already!

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[Fredouye]

This year will be my second RACC. I'll leave Nice after work, and then 7 hours of highway...

[bomber21]

Tuesday 22nd Of October flight from Helsinki to BCN and then by car to Salou with my wife and son. Back 29th. A good holiday and Rally!
Second time in Salou and looking forward again!
23 Oct early morning flight from Athens to BCN! My first Rally Catalunya! Can’t wait!

[DocMS]

Whats story with rally passes etc for this rally?

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[satnav]

Whats story with rally passes etc for this rally?

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No Passes required in Spain .

http://www.rallyracc.com/2019/en/acceso_tramos.html

[hari]

Also looking forward to my first Rally Catalunya this year.

[maailmameister]

Same here, going for the first time. I also combine a vacation with my family and a rally.

[dck1989]

anybody planned their viewing for the Saturday stages yet?

[cali]

anybody planned their viewing for the Saturday stages yet?

No, not really yet.

[pantealex]

Entry will close today 2PM

[AnttiL]

Route preview http://itgetsfasternow.com/2019/10/07/route-preview-rally-catalunya-2019/

Mostly same as last year, except no Barcelona super special, new beginning section and new title Horta-Bot on second gravel stage and reversed La Mussara as the power stage instead of Santa Marina. Three stages have remained from 1993, the first time the rally went to Tarragona area in WRC.

[AnttiL]

Entry list https://twitter.com/rallyracc/status/1181509577055047681?s=21

[tomhlord]

Entry list https://twitter.com/rallyracc/status/1181509577055047681?s=21

Camilli in a C3 R5. Interesting.

[BigWorm]

Camilli in a C3 R5. Interesting.

Indeed. Watch this space?

[AnttiL]

Also Jan Solans already in R5 Fiesta

[pantealex]

Entry list https://twitter.com/rallyracc/status/1181509577055047681?s=21

http://www.rallyracc.com/2019/descargas/inscritos.pdf
with my iMac this one is easier to read, ewrc has good one also.

[AnttiL]

http://www.rallyracc.com/2019/descargas/inscritos.pdf
with my iMac this one is easier to read, ewrc has good one also.

I was on my phone and had only a minute, no time to search for better sources :P

[wwbroe]

Entry list https://twitter.com/rallyracc/status/1181509577055047681?s=21

Gryazin on list with Skoda, i tought he would do the event with Polo of BMA?

[DoN_cz]

Two questions regarding service park:
1) is it open to public on wednesday?
2) we are travelling with a disabled person (who owns the EU parking card) - any benefit in parking closer to the service park?

[Fredouye]

Hi

It's opened on wednesday, and IMHO it's the best day to get there.

[Hartusvuori]

Two questions regarding service park:
1) is it open to public on wednesday?
2) we are travelling with a disabled person (who owns the EU parking card) - any benefit in parking closer to the service park?

I've been to RACC just once and then we were made to walk ridiculous routes (uphill) to get to the service park. I'd suggest you ask this directly from the organization, it could save you a lot of trouble.

[DoN_cz]

Thanks, I've just done that.

I have one more question/request for tips. Where would be the best opportunity to get closest to the cars (static/parked up) without too much hassle? Obviously service park is not the ideal place (too many people and you have the barriers between you and the cars). As I've seen from several YouTube videos (Germany, Corsica, Finland), usually the crews stop and prepare few hundred meters before starting the shakedown - and people get to walk around the cars. But I don't know if that's the case for Spain as well and also I think it is quite shame to sacrifice shakedown for this (one less gravel stage, which is the main reason we are there for). So what about the area before/after the start/finish of Salou superspecial (which I'm not too keen to see, so no problem to sacrifice that)? Or perhaps some regroup? Or last idea that we did in Poland few years back - follow the cars from service to the first stage on Sunday morning and at some point (~1km before the stage) they stop to check pressures and do final preparations.

[BigWorm]

https://i.gyazo.com/4d7cd9e91157359a9d650703ff42f3bf.jpg

Camilli: What a great opportunity for us to compete at the next @RallyRACC onboard C3 R5! Big Thanks to @CitroenRacing, @TotalRacingFR, @Michelin_Sport & @TeamSainteloc
for this new and fantastic challenge! We will have two days of testing with the car to get to know it. Can’t wait!

Citroën: @Citroen is glad to have @EricCamilli & Benjamin Veillas competing onboard #C3R5 at @RallyRACC: it’s another top crew to showcase the car’s competitivness! For their 5th appearence on this mixed surface rally, they have the ability & goal to win

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Spain test crucial for Ogier https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/october-2019/ogier-test/page/6741--12-12-.html

[EstWRC]

Spain test crucial for Ogier https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/october-2019/ogier-test/page/6741--12-12-.html

Citroen’s hopes of bringing new parts to last week’s Wales Rally GB were spoiled by complications surrounding the homologation process. That new suspension will have to wait until next season.
Team principal Pierre Budar said: “The rules for the homologation are the same for all the teams. It’s just very frustrating and disappointing to know these parts make the car quicker, but we can’t use them.
“The drivers have run with them in the test and they like them. We know the car would be faster and giving more confidence if we had them on, but the rules are the rules.”


Didnt know this. It is indeed crucial for him but i wonder how many miracles they can make with just one test, they were really nowhere in Germany.

Time will tell.

[AnttiL]

Corsica had a lot of smooth, wide and fast sections this year and Citroen's were especially lost there. Basically the only stage where Ogier was fast was the rough and long stage and there won't be sections like that in Catalunya.

[mknight]

As the situation looks now I actually expect MSport to have clearly the fastest car on tarmac in Spain. They were probably fastest already in Corsica and also in Germany Suninen's times were great.
Toyota pace does seem to be slightly reduced by the wing changes and Spanish tarmac is where this should be very noticable.
Hyundai (for Neuville and Sordo) did seem to be on Toyota level in Germany, but those stages are mostly quite a bit different from Spanish tarmac. Question is if they come with some more drastic changes now that Loeb has done two testing rallies and Neuville is going to do another one this weekend.

[df93]

DoN_cz - there is a street pavement around a section of the shakedown stage which would give a solid base to watch the shakedown.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Camilli's C3 R5
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGgMmvxXYAEJceX?format=jpg&name=large

[go mads]

Can anyone with access to rg2 tell me what time recce of salou stage is? Normally 16.00 on Wednesday. Thanks in advance

[Fredouye]

Can anyone with access to rg2 tell me what time recce of salou stage is? Normally 16.00 on Wednesday. Thanks in advance

Hi

here you are ;)

1875

[go mads]

Thank you

[carreg65]

Hi my husband and son are from the UK and have booked a stay in Salou when the rally is Spanish rally is taking place. Does anyone know of any way other than hiring a car they would be able to get to the rally stages? Or is anyone looking for 2 passengers to share a car and fuel? Thank you.

[go mads]

Hi my husband and son are from the UK and have booked a stay in Salou when the rally is Spanish rally is taking place. Does anyone know of any way other than hiring a car they would be able to get to the rally stages? Or is anyone looking for 2 passengers to share a car and fuel? Thank you.

Depends how much you want to see, you can see lots with no car, shakedown is on Thursday morning which is within easy walking distance from the town, start and finish takes place along the front on thurs evening/sunday afternoon aswell as a special stage on Saturday afternoon, service park is just a 10 minute walk out of town at port adventura where the cars visit each day several times, all info available on rally racc website.

[carreg65]

They were hoping to go into the mountains on Thursday and Fri. Unfortunately, there doesnt seem to be any bus trips going there. They were hoping to car share and pay towards it and the fuel costs.

[fastcar]

Enjoyed your blog summary Anttil -

I'd be interested to know your recommended/preferred stages for Friday on Gravel - ideally moving between stages.

Is it fairly straightforward to go SS1 - SS3 am and SS5 pm would you say?

Any others reading with previous knowledge feel free to chip in - thanks.

Not been to Catalunya since 2016

[Priorat]

It's absolutely easy to see ss1 and ss3 and then again ss4 and ss6 in a different spot.
Remember that usually, cars start every 3 minutes on Friday so you can watch around 15-20 cars on ss1 before moving

[DoN_cz]

are the stages open to public on wednesday for our own private recce?

[rage82]

are the stages open to public on wednesday for our own private recce?

Yes, no problem at all with the recce. I have done some last year even ot Thursday, after the shakedown.

[cali]

Speculations about rally being cancelled because of riot in Barcelona. Anybody heard anything or estonian media making big fuss again?

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[Fredouye]

A bit of tension yesterday at Barcelona's airport : https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49974289

As said, some people tried to block the recce 2 years ago, but the rally went fine.

[AnttiL]

A bit of tension yesterday at Barcelona's airport : https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49974289


Scott Martin was there https://twitter.com/scottmartinat/status/1184181259096002560

[fastcar]

It's absolutely easy to see ss1 and ss3 and then again ss4 and ss6 in a different spot.
Remember that usually, cars start every 3 minutes on Friday so you can watch around 15-20 cars on ss1 before moving
..................

Thanks Priorat

[bluuford]

I am more concerned about the weather during recce. lets see how it develops, but be careful on Tuesday and Wednesday. It is not clear where the cyclone moves, but current scenario is not nice, very heavy rain, hail, thunder an flooding is highly likely.. somewhere in Catalonia...

[tc10a]

https://www.autosport.pt/ralis/wrc/wrc-incidentes-em-barcelona-colocam-rali-da-catalunha-em-risco/

"The protests and incidents taking place in Catalonia could have a huge effect on the result of the Rally World Cup, as there is now a serious risk that the Catalunya Rally will be canceled due to the situation in Catalonia..." [google translate]

Would be bad...

[EstWRC]

calm down https://twitter.com/OfficialWRC/status/1184777144460828679

[EstWRC]

here it is finally, Toyota announcement of their Spain PRESS RELEASE https://toyotagazooracing.com/wrc/report/2019/13/preview.html

[Fredouye]

M-Sport press release : https://www.m-sport.co.uk/single-post/2019/10/18/MOUNTING-A-MIXED-SURFACE-CHALLENGE

[Tauri_J]

Tuesday looks like a complete washout with massive winds and potential flooding.

Could be dangerous for drivers who are doing recce.

[AnttiL]

Tuesday looks like a complete washout with massive winds and potential flooding.

Could be dangerous for drivers who are doing recce.

Could also damage the smallest gravel roads

[meh]

Tuesday looks like a complete washout with massive winds and potential flooding.

Could be dangerous for drivers who are doing recce.

From positive side - maybe it washouts protests? One problem replaced with other.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Weather forecast is showing fine for Friday and the weekend.

[EstWRC]

its been fine for the weekend so far, the critical days have been tuesday and wednesday but it shows much better for those days now than couple a days ago when it seemed there will be hell

[Tauri_J]

https://www.upload.ee/image/10621809/download__9_.png

Doesnt look better at all.

[EstWRC]

What region are you watching? I saw different numbers in the stages region separately.

[Tauri_J]

Tarragona.It is probably better in the stages, because they are farther inland.

[AnttiL]

Remember, weather forecasts for each stage location here ;)

https://itgetsfasternow.com/2019/10/07/route-preview-rally-catalunya-2019/

Looks like super heavy rain indeed on Wednesday morning. Luckily the least rain on gravel stages.

[EstWRC]

yeah AnttiL, im always looking from there, thats what i meant when i said i looked the stage regions.

Anyway, the long awaited rally week has finally arrived. If we look back at 2017 and 2018, then Citroen has been the winner both times. So in that sense they should be the favourites, but we know it isnt as easy as that, especially with their recent struggles on tarmac. But Ogier and Lappi both sound quite upbeat and say they found something on the tests.

Out of the TOP3, Ogier has had the best record the last 2 years, 2nd in 2017 and also 2nd in 2018. Although last year he was only 7th!!! after the first day and 39 secs down off Tänak. Also he has won this rally 3 times with the previous gen cars.
Neuville was 4th last year and retired in 2017 on final day. TBH if we look at his past results then it really isnt his strongest event.
Tänak was 3rd in 2017 and 6th last year but was leading before the puncture dropped him to 6th.

So, if we look at the records and if Citroen indeed has found something, then Ogier should be very very strong this weekend. But this is all speculative. It will be interesting to see the tacktics, i think Ott will be driving the first stages to his own pace and he will see what Ogier and Neuville are doing. Ogier and Neuville must anyway go flat-out right from the start. The rain should help the frontrunners, they wont have so much loose stuff as with the dry.

Evans showed amazing speed in Wales and i think he is the dark horse here. He has great starting position for Friday and he is very strong on tarmac, was 3rd last year on this rally.
Same story with Sordo basically.
Meeke has won this event so he knows what to do.
Loeb is back and won it last year and has won it multiple times.



So all in all, it seems to me we will have hell of a weekend :bounce:

[mknight]

Sordo and Loeb can easily lead after Friday, only problem can be if stages don't dry fast enough. Hyundai's (and especially Loeb's) performance on dry tarmac is a big uncertainty though.

I expect Evans to be the fastest on dry tarmac and should be able to win the rally if he doesn't loose too much on friday.

Toyota's will be somewhere in the middle. I expect Tanak will take it a bit easier with cutting.
Ogier is a huge uncertainty, all depending on what changes are done to the car.

[Eli]

Don't think Loeb will be as fast as some people think, if you remember in Corsica, he has struggled to get to grips with the car, sure him smacking the suspension on the very first stage didn't help, but the i20 is a totally different package to what he drove all these years with Citroen. if anyone from the Hyundai camp has a chance to claim a win it's Sordo, he has come second countless times on this event and even showed us back in 2016 he's no slouch on those Friday gravel stages. As for Neuville, I would honestly just settle for a podium, as his first WDC chances are next to none...and it's really important for Hyundai to get that first manufacturer title.

As for Ogier & Citroen, I sincerely hope they found something in those tests that will at least give him the tools to challenge Tanak, but the way I see it, it's now Tanak's championship to lose. Hopefully I'm wrong and it will go down to the wire down under, but in all honesty, Tanak does deserve this title, he has been the most consistent of challengers this year, and with having 6 wins, it really does cast your mind back to Ogier's years with VW.
In any case, we have a fascinating weekend in prospect.

[carreg65]

Evans is used to the wet and should do well. It rained here in Salou yesterday but has been fine today. The sun was out this afternoon. Pob lwc Elvin

[cali]

Guys I have a question. How can I download stage maps from rally-maps.com or any other credible source to my phone?

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[meh]

I have also question, a bit related to previous one, how good/bad is internet connection near stages? Should I prepare to stay offline or is there good internet power and I could carry battery-pack to watch AllLive?

[AnttiL]

Guys I have a question. How can I download stage maps from rally-maps.com or any other credible source to my phone?

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Not possible from rally-maps.com. Does this Google Earth link from Planetemarcus help? http://planetemarcus.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/55-RallyRACC-Catalunya-COSTA-DAURADA-Rally-de-Espa%C3%B1a-2019-by-Dimitri-Dusart_2.zip

[cali]

Not possible from rally-maps.com. Does this Google Earth link from Planetemarcus help? http://planetemarcus.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/55-RallyRACC-Catalunya-COSTA-DAURADA-Rally-de-Espa%C3%B1a-2019-by-Dimitri-Dusart_2.zipThanks Antti, much appreciated! That's exactly what I was looking for.

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[EstWRC]

I have also question, a bit related to previous one, how good/bad is internet connection near stages? Should I prepare to stay offline or is there good internet power and I could carry battery-pack to watch AllLive?

Prepare to stay offline. At least this was the case with us in 2017 at the places where we were. For a long time we didn’t know the results at all because they don’t have radio either like in Estonia or Finland.

So I went the old school way and took time with my stopper. Found out later I was pretty spot on :D

[meh]

Prepare to stay offline. At least this was the case with us in 2017 at the places where we were. For a long time we didn’t know the results at all because they don’t have radio either like in Estonia or Finland.

So I went the old school way and took time with my stopper. Found out later I was pretty spot on :D

Buuh. It will be hard for AllLive addicted person like me ;)

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/Nqimbr7ewxE

https://youtu.be/kuvkkaB6Qtg

[Katvala]

Buuh. It will be hard for AllLive addicted person like me ;)What I do in Sweden is follow the live timings when cell reception is available, be at the stages, then watch it all on all live when I get back home again after the weekend. Will be spoiled, but still interesting enough

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[pantealex]

I have also question, a bit related to previous one, how good/bad is internet connection near stages? Should I prepare to stay offline or is there good internet power and I could carry battery-pack to watch AllLive?

Remember that even in Finland internet is not working near stages during Rally, so don´t expect to see live videos...
Be happy if you could see results.
Why would you go to Catalonia/Stages to watch AllLive, enjoy real LIVE ;)
And take times with your phone, it´s way more interesting.

[pantealex]

Any other non starters than Rhys Yates (WRC2) ?

[AnttiL]

Remember that even in Finland internet is not working near stages during Rally, so don´t expect to see live videos...
Be happy if you could see results.
Why would you go to Catalonia/Stages to watch AllLive, enjoy real LIVE ;)
And take times with your phone, it´s way more interesting.

Would be weird to watch All Live in the forest...radio is perfect because it doesn't occupy your hands or eyes. Spectating rally is social, while even watching the results on the phone can be unsocial. Even if you went to the stage alone, you'll usually find someone to talk rallying with.

[Fredouye]

Heller, it seems : https://twitter.com/Mazzucchelli_L/status/1186231248601145344?s=19

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Re C3 WRC new aero:

"The French firm hasn’t homologated the new parts for use at this week’s mixed surface encounter and a spokesman from the Versailles-based team confirmed there would be no aero updates for the Salou event.

It was the same situation last time out in Britain when Citroën had new suspension options which it couldn’t utilise for homologation reasons."

[EstWRC]

"For sure, the pressure is on, there's no doubt about that," said Tanak, for whom a win in Spain on Sunday afternoon would be enough for him to be crowned for the first time.

"We need to deliver and now we really need to deliver. We need a big performance.

"We had a good test and generally the feeling is quite good with the car, so now we have to see.

"I guess the focus will be on me, but at the same time Ogier and Thierry will have to go all-out. There's no doubt about that from their side.

"But for me, there's no need to risk everything. I don't need to do anything if the feeling is not there.

"If I'm comfortable with the car then I'm sure we can make the fight, but let's see how it goes."


https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/146698/citroen-holds-off-on-using-radical-new-aero

[HarriK]

Some competitors were not allowed to drive some stage twice because so many cars were stuck on stage.
I just checked in to 4R Hotel in Salou, raining heavily one hour ago.

[Fredouye]

Some competitors were not allowed to drive some stage twice because so many cars were stuck on stage.
I just checked in to 4R Hotel in Salou, raining heavily one hour ago.Yes, some 2WD had some issues on a muddy upwnhill in stage 3/6.

[carreg65]

Weather is pretty awful at present, at least its meant to get better from tomorrow morning

[Sardalense]

Huge storm right now in Salou. The streets are like rivers.

[skarderud]

Salou tonight.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191022/9f1e0b41add9d32fbab349f98482b9a1.jpg

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[EstWRC]

https://twitter.com/MadsOstberg/status/1186723474418651137?s=19

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mads Østberg @MadsOstberg

Bring your wellies !
https://twitter.com/MadsOstberg/status/1186723474418651137


rallytravel.com @rallytravel

Salou is currently in the middle of a storm of Biblical proportions... @RallyRACC #wrcspain


Planetemarcus @planetemarcus

Crazy crazy thunderstorm here in Salou ! Floods !

[EstWRC]

https://scontent.fhen1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/72966428_1369270329899614_6663455336688517120_o.jp g?_nc_cat=110&_nc_oc=AQnk7wzPIZPX_uFEyT5p0QRWN-hDXVBWGxwkNmVA19y7ZZSfAyLEAvVf-R9H2OeEnew&_nc_ht=scontent.fhen1-1.fna&oh=fb6eba01c57d7b20019ed636c7d9842f&oe=5E267D06
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[itix]

Whoa!!
Crazy shit.
This will be a pure asphalt event for two days now because I doubt any of the gravel roads are still there.

If they are, now is the time to test for Safari because there will be serious flood ruts in the road.

[skarderud]

A hard pickem got even harder:)

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[er88]

Tanak will be laughing. Everything falling into place!

[Hartusvuori]

Experience shows when it rains - Mikko brought an umbrella: https://twitter.com/JonneHalttunen/status/1186743485946302472?s=19

[Sardalense]

There is a huge lake in the shakedown near the roundabout before the tarmac section.

[T16]

There is a huge lake in the shakedown near the roundabout before the tarmac section.

Good.. hope that means no doughnuts ;)

[dimviii]

Mads Østberg
@MadsOstberg
·
18m
It was a rainy day yesterday @RallyRACC
Recce day 2 is going well. No issues in getting around today
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#businessasusual #reccedays

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHjdpUFWwAYwr8I?format=jpg&name=medium

[Sardalense]

At 9am today.

[EstWRC]

Guys, what do you think this topic needs?

PICTURES of course.

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[EstWRC]

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[AnttiL]

At 9am today.

Some practice for Safari :D

[pantealex]

Remember that:

-Every point that Loeb/Sordo steal from Ogier

-Every point that Lappi steal from Neuville

are + points for Tänak

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SD prep

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHkRrA2X0AAHSTt?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHkeQucWoAAiUld?format=jpg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHkePNfX0AAu2Ud?format=jpg&name=large

[EstWRC]

Remember that:

-Every point that Loeb/Sordo steal from Ogier

-Every point that Lappi steal from Neuville

are + points for Tänak

not just those drivers, foremost Tänaks teammates Meeke and Latvala (i really hope this time they dont have any misfortunes), also Evans could decide much

[pantealex]

not just those drivers, foremost Tänaks teammates Meeke and Latvala (i really hope this time they dont have any misfortunes), also Evans could decide much

I didn´t mention TGR drivers because it´s their actual job to steal points from others but MSport boy(s) I did forged.

[itix]

To be fair, Tänaks Toyota team mates haven't really done a mega job thus as support and team effort goes.

If we look at pure team effort Hyundai should win the team buckle. No other team has pulled together like they have (ok, maybe Msport but they lack machinery and budget). The other teams are individuals fighting for themselves.

[dimviii]

2465/5000
In front of the media tonight, the Alsatian driver spoke for a long time about this event, so important for him, since he has 9 victories on this rally, including the last acquired, by surprise, last season.
What is your goal for this weekend?

"The goal is to race for the Constructors' Championship, for me and Dani, anyway. Thierry still has something played personally. Anyway, to score points, you have to make a result. So the best is not to think about it and roll. "
With the dantesque conditions of recognition, the first day may be very difficult.

"There is a risk of finding things on the road that we have not seen compared to recognitions, such as stones that fell from the mountain for example. Potentially, there may be surprises like that. I think it will dry again on the surface but it will stay wet underneath. Leaving behind is not going to be as good as we would have liked if it was dry. So I just hope it's going to be too much over the passages and we're losing time as we go along. "
How do you feel at the wheel of this Hyundai?

"I drove in tests, the feeling was pretty good on the ground, but also on the asphalt. I did a little rally last weekend to get my legs up and it went pretty well. "
Are you a little worried before departure?

"There is no reason to be more worried than last year, I drove more this season. What worries me a little bit is this first day, and I'm really scared that it gets ointment over the cars. So I hope it will dry up well. "
How has the car evolved since the beginning of the season?

"Since the beginning of the season, we have advanced a lot on things like geometry, suspensions, shock absorbers, differentials, especially the central, the direction ... and everything put end to end, I think the car is better. It is well balanced, and easy to drive, overall it's pretty good. "
Is it possible to repeat your victory last year?

"Last year, we did not expect it. After, it's not easy. We see that the Toyota is very strong on asphalt like on the ground and last year, I win, but Tänak was far ahead before dying. There are always plenty of settings that make it possible to win, but we know it's never easy.

Is the pleasure still intact?

"I do nice shopping, without overloading the agenda, it suits me well. Between the Vosgien, Alba and Spain just before, it occupies well, plus the races at Le Castellet, it makes me a dozen races and we are not far from a complete program. "
Are you afraid of seeing big gaps on Friday?

"In fact, we do not know the conditions that we will have. It is sure that if it dries on the surface and that the fat comes out from below, leaving where we go, what normally and we always hope, is an advantage, it can quickly turn against us, and the gaps can be large indeed. If it gets ointed behind, it's dead. "
Have you already discussed next season and your program?

"Frankly, we have not thought about it yet. The Monte Carlo yes, logically perhaps, it will be necessary to agree with Dani again. But frankly, we did not talk too much about it. I would have liked to do this one (Spain) and Corsica, but these two will not be there anymore. Potentially Chile, especially since it went well this season.
Is it possible to see you in the Var in a month?

Again, this is something we have not necessarily discussed. But like every year, the Var at the end of the season is a possibility, so why not.
In what position do you find yourself compared to last year?

"I know the car better, the terrain better. When I saw last year's times, I can not understand how I could win. I did not do a lot of scratchs but I was regular without being hyper-efficient. I watched the times and I struggled to find myself in the list! "

https://www.rallye-sport.fr/loeb-jespere-que-ca-va-bien-secher/?fbclid=IwAR0d90qD9m5dUYznoqVFag93YlmV-d_PJfrA6nH7lwuEd8B6y4MRlX70M8U

[EstWRC]

Morning guys...shakedown soon, which is a weird one because it isnt representative at all and is just 2kms long....but it is what it is.

Gotta love the translation of the text you posted dimviii :D

[er88]

^ Tanak is so good he can even come back from the dead :D

[Portimao]

Any info about shakedown livestream?

[EstWRC]

Any info about shakedown livestream?

https://www.facebook.com/TOYOTAGAZOORacingWRC/videos/401585867179785/?notif_id=1571900380345933&notif_t=live_video_explicit

[cali]

Morning guys. I'm at the start of a shakedown and what a massive crowd this year! Problably have to do corrections to my logitics and start an hour earlier to tomorrow's stages. Have great weekend my friends!

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[EstWRC]

just a shkakedown but good run from Katsuta!

[AnttiL]

Indeed

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHoGk-jWoAAkK8C?format=png&name=small

[EstWRC]

Greensmith already doing things, hit a bank and damage the car

[EstWRC]

so with the heavy rain, the gravel crews were allowed to go on the gravel stages today and look whats the situation.

[T16]

Greensmith already doing things, hit a bank and damage the car

Hate to say it, but I think the WRC car might be above his ability.

[Got Mail]

Hate to say it, but I think the WRC car might be above his ability.

I guess we'll see next year as he has already sorted a full season WRC1 drive.

[EstWRC]

Loeb now fastest on second pass

E:Ostberg as fast as Lappi

https://www.ewrc-results.com/shake/54472-rallyracc-catalunya-costa-daurada-2019/

[T16]

I guess we'll see next year as he has already sorted a full season WRC1 drive.

Has he? I didn’t know that.
With M-Sport I assume?

[br21]

so with the heavy rain, the gravel crews were allowed to go on the gravel stages today and look whats the situation.

as always in WRC, everyone else except the top crews not that important, their safety also...

[AnttiL]

Has he? I didn’t know that.
With M-Sport I assume?

I didn't know either. Cannot be other than M-Sport with his backing.

[HarriK]

https://harrinkuvat.1g.fi/kuvat/Rallikuvat/2019/Racc/IMG_20191024_094131.jpg/_medium.jpg (https://harrinkuvat.1g.fi/kuvat/Rallikuvat/2019/Racc/IMG_20191024_094131.jpg)

Some cell phone photos/videos more in link
https://harrinkuvat.1g.fi/kuvat/Rallikuvat/2019/Racc/

Loeb had tyre of from rim 2nd or 3rd pass. Noticed from photos.

[EstWRC]

Mads is showing amazing times on this shakedown

[Got Mail]

I didn't know either. Cannot be other than M-Sport with his backing.

They wouldn't confirm who with.

I'm guessing it could only be MSport or possibly a big cheque to Citroen.

[Got Mail]

Mads is showing amazing times on this shakedown

Not sure these times will be too relevant as we also have Katsuta faster than Tanak....

[Fast Eddie WRC]

They wouldn't confirm who with.

I'm guessing it could only be MSport or possibly a big cheque to Citroen.

What is your source ?

[Rallyper]

Big time differences on SD. Only 2K stage... ?

[br21]

Nobre stopped on SD?

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/pDqTV9lEjXg


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHojbWWWsAAKmwa.jpg

[dimviii]

Nobre stopped on SD?

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_10_2019/post-1529-0-90786800-1571910751.jpg

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/UTqTLDC0c1E

[dimviii]

Νobre
https://twitter.com/palmeirinharali/status/1187321007524241409

[skarderud]

Emil Lindholm, is it Sebastian Lindholms son?

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[dimviii]

Planetemarcus
@planetemarcus
#WRC This year Shakedown #RallyRACC is under full safety conditions ! Not allowed to be along the road with that bareer put everywhere

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHnsxbmXYAAIPrp?format=jpg&name=small

[dimviii]

Emil Lindholm, is it Sebastian Lindholms son?

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yeap.


Loeb with puncture at 3rd pass


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHogVuhXUAEX223?format=jpg&name=small

[AnttiL]

Emil Lindholm, is it Sebastian Lindholms son?

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Yes indeed he is.

[skarderud]

Yes indeed he is.Thanks!

Another young familyprotége , same amount of talent as Rovanpäre and Solberg?

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[AnttiL]

Thanks!

Another young familyprotége , same amount of talent as Rovanpäre and Solberg?

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Not as much of a super talent, didn't start as young. But has a lot of speed, needs just much experience. He doesn't have as massive backing behind him compared to what Petter or Jouhki can arrange. He's also driving under Grönholm's GRX team, remember that Sebastian is Marcus's cousin.

[Got Mail]

Kayto clearly has some problems with the Polo.

[Rallyper]

Just over 90 minutes left to make your Pickems for Rally Catalunya Spain.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hate to say it, but I think the WRC car might be above his ability.

Based on a couple of drives ? Greensmith has done OK and actually set faster times than team-mates Evans and Suninen on a few stages this year.

And his drives aren't all down to money. He has come right through the series from R1 to R5 at M-Sport and if MW has confidence in him and that's good enough for me.

[dimviii]

and if MW has confidence in him and that's good enough for me.

if he will have money,Malcolm will have confidence

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/BlABPopEA3A

[pantealex]

Thanks!

Another young familyprotége , same amount of talent as Rovanpäre and Solberg?

It´s his 3rd WRC2 start this year. Sweden went very well, Finland not.

He has driven tarmac-track cars before, Silver medal from Finnish championship and few podiums in Germany.

From Rally many overall and class wins in Finnish championship.

Talented for sure but probably not like Kalle/Oliver

I know Emil personally and he is PR wise one of best youngsters.

[rage82]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HDTC0X3-cU - by our forum member PlaneteMarcus

[T16]

Based on a couple of drives ? Greensmith has done OK and actually set faster times than team-mates Evans and Suninen on a few stages this year.

And his drives aren't all down to money. He has come right through the series from R1 to R5 at M-Sport and if MW has confidence in him and that's good enough for me.

I just don’t think he’s shown the flashes of speed I would expect if he was going to make a decent go it if. Anything other than gentlemen driver.

What do you mean, his drives aren’t all down to money??
If you seriously believe that, you need to understand the sport a lot better.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I just don’t think he’s shown the flashes of speed I would expect if he was going to make a decent go it if. Anything other than gentlemen driver.

What do you mean, his drives aren’t all down to money??
If you seriously believe that, you need to understand the sport a lot better.

MW knows a driver and has spoken very highly of Gus and his progression through every level of rallying. I trust his opinion more than yours.

[wia5958]

He's a 3rd driver and not much more. Maybe he is young enough to progress to a 2nd driver but that's his limit. He's below breen but above katsuta and can't see him improving much. There's not enough raw speed and when he pushed accidents occur normally quite heavy ones. And of course Malcolm talked highly they have been customers to Malcolm for quite a few years. And MW is smart enough not to mouth a customer

[hari]

Some pictures from Shakedown: http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_wrc_rallye_catalunya_2019.html

http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2019/catalunya/1.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2019/catalunya/2.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2019/catalunya/4.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2019/catalunya/6.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2019/catalunya/3.jpg

[T16]

He's a 3rd driver and not much more. Maybe he is young enough to progress to a 2nd driver but that's his limit. He's below breen but above katsuta and can't see him improving much. There's not enough raw speed and when he pushed accidents occur normally quite heavy ones. And of course Malcolm talked highly they have been customers to Malcolm for quite a few years. And MW is smart enough not to mouth a customer

Nailed it.

[dimviii]

MW knows a driver and has spoken very highly of Gus and his progression through every level of rallying. I trust his opinion more than yours.

Malcolms opinion has to do with money ONLY, at this subject.
Try to wake up.

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/AYiz7qGkq2U

https://youtu.be/Yvti-0ry69M

[dimviii]

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2019/photos/rallyracc_catalunya_costa_daurada_2019/vms_dsc_7618.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2019/photos/rallyracc_catalunya_costa_daurada_2019/vms_dsc_7669.jpg


more
https://www.ewrc.cz/foto/54472-rallyracc-catalunya-costa-daurada-2019/573/

[dimviii]

Henry Lääne
@henrylaane

Thierry Neuville was fined 200 euros for speeding yesterday in Catalunya.

WRC drivers have paid a total of 5100 euros for speeding in '19 (somehow didn't find the notice board for Sweden). Neuville's fines account for 35,8% of that.

[Katvala]

Henry Lääne
@henrylaane

Thierry Neuville was fined 200 euros for speeding yesterday in Catalunya.

WRC drivers have paid a total of 5100 euros for speeding in '19 (somehow didn't find the notice board for Sweden). Neuville's fines account for 35,8% of that.https://youtu.be/1YNRJKFlsXQ

Maybe we'll see Nicolas driving soon.

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[KKS]

Suninen was very spectacular to watch, not time efficient, but very aggressive. Love it

[KKS]

So as Mads say on all live today: If Ogier will not have WDC chances in Australia - Mads not drive C3WRC in Australia (

[GigiGalliNo1]

Jaanus Rees lighting equipment for photos was stolen in Salou car park.

Note to all visiting and on stages, don’t leave any valuables in your cars!

[dimviii]

Suarez
https://twitter.com/PeAChapaRacing/status/1187302900130897920

[EstWRC]

Morning guys...the action starts in 2 hours.

I must admit i have had quite a trouble with my sleeping this week, so anxious all the time. Although its just another rally, I just hope everything goes smoothly.

[skarderud]

Morning guys...the action starts in 2 hours.

I must admit i have had quite a trouble with my sleeping this week, so anxious all the time. Although its just another rally, I just hope everything goes smoothly.Hehe, a real fan there!:)

Mixed feelings, a part of me want a WDC not named Seb, the other part of me want Østberg in a WRC in Australia!

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[Allez Andruet]

Mixed feelings, a part of me want a WDC not named Seb, the other part of me want Østberg in a WRC in Australia!

You can still have both.

[EstWRC]

#Tyre info - Day morning - SS1-SS3

Meeke: 2 MICHELIN LTX Force H4 +3M6
Tanak/Ogier/Neuville: 1H4+4M6
Latvala/Katsuta/Lappi/Evans/Suninen/Sordo: 3H4+2M6
Loeb: 5H4

#MichelinWRC #RallyRACC

[er88]

What an opportunity for Sordo and Loeb running 9th and 10th on the road. Sounds like despite the rain, the stages have dried out so still could be road cleaning (although not to the extreme extent of previous years).

[Rallyper]

Morning to you all. Will not be here on the morning loop, but planning to stay here in the afternoon.

Really exciting hours ahead.

[EstWRC]

Ott already on cruise mode ?

[EstWRC]

Meeke witha quite moment, Ogier has been massively fast here but he has no other choice

E: quite a good gaps already with only 7km stage

[EstWRC]

powersteeging for Ogier

[KKS]

oh what a championship drama!

[Esko]

Ooh, did we just see how Ott confirmed his title. 18 sec gap at second split between Ott and Seb

[er88]

Damn what drama already

[EstWRC]

and he has the long stage to go with this issue, damn, i didnt want this

[Japé]

Had Ogier some sort of slow puncture in rear left in SS1, in some pictures it looked liked that in the end of stage?

[KKS]

how many times Fiesta WRC`17 has powersteering problems? Seems switch to Citroen not good decision

[EstWRC]

this is sad :(...i wanted a huge fight between them


but ok, a long way to go still

[BigWorm]

Poor Seb, that hurts for him

[Päss1928]

and he has the long stage to go with this issue, damn, i didnt want this

Exactly. Would have wanted Ott to win a fair fight. But atleast it's not like Ott hasn't had any troubles. Interesting to see what Seb is going to say now.

[KKS]

Exactly. Would have wanted Ott to win a fair fight. But atleast it's not like Ott hasn't had any troubles. Interesting to see what Seb is going to say now.
Wales'18 did thar fair for WDC18? Nope. So some time technical issues decides

[EstWRC]

is the problem fixable guys ? although in my head i dont remeber somebody fixing powersteering issues between stages

[COD]

is the problem fixable guys ? although in my head i dont remeber somebody fixing powersteering issues between stages

If it is a broken hose of a belt, it might be repairable. If the unit is broken, no

[br21]

is the problem fixable guys ? although in my head i dont remeber somebody fixing powersteering issues between stages

depends what exactly the problem is.

What makes it more problematic is also shifting stops working (as shares same hydraulic system) so then when you need both hands on steering wheel (as no PS) you still need to use that tiny stick to change gears, and you have no cut-off, etc. So it makes it even more tricky and is making the time loss bigger.

[AL14]

I know nothing about powesteering but judging from Ogier's face it seems he is trying to do something quite desperate.

[EstWRC]

Sordo is doing awesome job for Neuville at the moment

[krissucool]

Sordo is doing awesome job for Neuville at the moment

Dont think he is doing anything for Neuville. Only helping Hyunday for manufacturers really.

[EstWRC]

Dont think he is doing anything for Neuville. Only helping Hyunday for manufacturers really.

well yes, but at the moment Neuville would get more than 11 points against Ott, but a long way to go, sorry im desperate :D


that body language said all from Ogier, couldnt fix it seems

[HarriK]

What is gap between wrc and nationals?

[AL14]

well yes, but at the moment Neuville would get more than 11 points against Ott, but a long way to go, sorry im desperate :D


that body language said all from Ogier, couldnt fix it seems

I should have made the Vana Tallin deal this year instead of last year, damn. :D

[Francis44]

Long way to go still. I think this will be one of those crazy end year events, plenty still to happen.

[Japé]

and now we are Spanish?

[cali]

Stage 1 Ogier clearly more aggressive with very bold lines. Tänak very steady, Neuville slided off the line etc.

I must say Ogier was very spectacular with the best driving line, never slid off.

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[EstWRC]

Budar unfortunately just said they didnt fix the powersteering issue

[er88]

Good first two stages for the early runners like Tanak/Neuville/ Meeke. Only Sordo on same pace, but gaps are still small and this next stage is where the real gaps can be made.

[EstWRC]

delay

[TypeR]

trying to think out, how to cancel the stage?

[EstWRC]

Ogier will be laughing if this is cancelled

[Fast Eddie WRC]

how many times Fiesta WRC`17 has powersteering problems? Seems switch to Citroen not good decision

Better the devil you know.

Not just this problem today but also the C3 has always been a problem car.

[Indreq]

Ogier will be laughing if this is cancelled

40 sek is not possible to make up on Tänak unless he too runs into problems.

[EstWRC]

and we are live

[Eli]

40 sek is not possible to make up on Tänak unless he too runs into problems.

He did get a puncture last year.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ss3 started, just a safety check.

[AnttiL]

Not just this problem today but also the C3 has always been a problem car.

I would say C3 is the most reliable car. Fiesta for sure is not. Remember what happened to Suninen in Germany? Evans in Portugal? Evans in Wales 2018? Bouffier in Corsica 2018? Evans in Mexico 2017? Tänak in Monte and Sweden 2017?

[AnttiL]

Great times by Nil Solans

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I would say C3 is the most reliable car. Fiesta for sure is not. Remember what happened to Suninen in Germany? Evans in Portugal? Evans in Wales 2018? Bouffier in Corsica 2018? Evans in Mexico 2017? Tänak in Monte and Sweden 2017?

I was talking about its speed and handling which has always been variable.

And Ogier won two WDC's in the Fiesta.

[mknight]

I would say C3 is the most reliable car. Fiesta for sure is not. Remember what happened to Suninen in Germany? Evans in Portugal? Evans in Wales 2018? Bouffier in Corsica 2018? Evans in Mexico 2017? Tänak in Monte and Sweden 2017?

Indeed C3 has been clearly the most reliable car of the 4, definitely since mid 2017 or so.

[rhm]

Ogier haemorrhaging time in SS3 - nearly impossible to recover from this position?

[er88]

Indeed C3 has been clearly the most reliable car of the 4, definitely since mid 2017 or so.Reliable yeah..., but it's still a dog of a car though. A dog that is contributing in dethroning a 6 straight champion - not even the great Ogier can drag it to a title.

[Francis44]

If I was Ogier I would retire now. What the hell is he supposed to do next year with this car?!

[AnttiL]

I was talking about its speed and handling which has always been variable.


Well clearly we were talking about reliability. Interestingly enough, Ogier never(?) had technical problems with the Fiesta. Only something small hydraulic stuff in Corsica 2017

[rhm]

I just don't think that is his mindset - imagine turning it around for 2020 - Citroen need more budget though to address the rear suspension geomety

[AnttiL]

Ogier haemorrhaging time in SS3 - nearly impossible to recover from this position?

Yes, his only hopes are others' issues and power stage points.

[AnttiL]

Indeed C3 has been clearly the most reliable car of the 4, definitely since mid 2017 or so.

Yeh, Meeke's engine blew in Corsica and Lappi's in Monte. Ogier has had the fire extinguisher go off during a stage and Østberg once had to retire because of a mechanic error. Al-Qassimi had a turbo issue in Turkey 2018? Don't really remember many technical issues for them before.

[rhm]

Yeah, only a Tanak retirement can save his championship hopes now - you never know until the last stage

[mknight]

If I was Ogier I would retire now. What the hell is he supposed to do next year with this car?!

Stupidest comment I have heard for a long time.

He was fighting for title on 2nd last rally, even when making quite a few mistakes this season including 2 crashes (Sweden, Sardinia). He was also leading the rally after first stage........

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Well clearly we were talking about reliability. Interestingly enough, Ogier never(?) had technical problems with the Fiesta. Only something small hydraulic stuff in Corsica 2017

I said it has been a 'problem car' not an unreliable one.

[AnttiL]

I said it has been a 'problem car' not an unreliable one.

Well that problem car gave him a stage win on SS1.

[rhm]

Latvala going well, this stage looks rougher than SS2, more cleaning maybe?

[AnttiL]

Latvala going well, this stage looks rougher than SS2, more cleaning maybe?

Yeah, first time we see the later starters being faster than the leading trio.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Well that problem car gave him a stage win on SS1.

Its now good on gravel but not on tarmac.

[Francis44]

Stupidest comment I have heard for a long time.

He was fighting for title on 2nd last rally, even when making quite a few mistakes this season including 2 crashes (Sweden, Sardinia). He was also leading the rally after first stage........

Settle down! Clearly this car is not fit for a proper championship contender. If you can rewind your brain to a few years back you could clearly remember Ogier was able to be much faster and competitive on almost all races. With this car he is not, in tarmac specifically.

[EstWRC]

haha nice answer Ott

you can see how nervous he is, i have never seen him like that

[rhm]

haha nice answer Ott

you can see how nervous he is, i have never seen him like that

wouldn't want to play poker against him

[TypeR]

haha nice answer Ott

you can see how nervous he is, i have never seen him like that

and is it just me or Ott is pronouncing ,,Neuville'' different than before :D noticed it for 2nd time today

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Poor Seb... that was tough.

[EstWRC]

Neuville pushing hard but not a big gap with Tänak

seemed to be a little disappointed

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans going well on this one.

[KKS]

very good split progression from middle of stage be Evans and great time! C'moooonn!

[EstWRC]

not a good stage for Toyotas, i mean Meeke and Latvala....but its quite rough at places, so no wonder


Evans got past Meeke

[EstWRC]

Loeb fastest in spl4!!!

[er88]

Sordo and Loeb coming fast

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sordo and Loeb coming fast

Hyundai driver swaps and their better road positions working well for winning points.

[EstWRC]

Sordos with a puncture and fastest

[EstWRC]

get in Loeb, right tyre choice again!

[Mirek]

And finally a stage win for Loeb.