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Antreas
19th July 2019, 11:11
With the heat in full swing, preparations for the 2019 Cyprus Rally are well under way. Our national rally is also part of the European Rally Championship, as this year’s seventh round, on the weekend of the 27th – 29th of September. At the same time, this will be the Middle-East Rally Championship’s fourth round of the season, making our rally the only FIA-sanctioned rally to host two regional FIA championship rounds.

The organizing committee has been working for months on delivering another exciting weekend of rallying action. The rally has already been designed to function around the city of Nicosia, with the Service Park being hosted at Evangelos Florakis Street. Both the Rally HQ and Press Office will be situated close to this street.

Representatives from Eurosport have already visited Cyprus for a briefing, but also to approve the course. Everyone responsible was extremely pleased, both with the progress and the course of the rally, while maintaining constant communication with the organizing committee. The heart of Nicosia will, once again, host the Super Special Stage on its streets, with a mixture of both dirt and tarmac, which was a first back in the Cyprus Rally of 2009. Crews from Europe and the Middle-East will travel to the island to determine who will be victorious at the 2019 Cyprus Rally.

The 2019 European Rally Championship is already under way, with four rallies already in the books. Leading the charge is Poland’s Lukasz Habaj with 94 points, with 2016 Cyprus Rally winner and ERC Champion Alexey Lukyanuk following in second with 83. Fast Brit Chris Ingram is currently third in the championship standings with 70 points. Our very own Alexandros Tsouloftas is participating in this year’s ERC, and has taken part in three of the first four rallies. He is second in the ERC1 Junior class. As for the Middle-East Rally Championship, the multi-winner winner of the Cyprus Rally, three-time winner of Rally Dakar including this year’s and fourteen-times MERC champion Nasser Al-Attiyah has won both Middle-East rounds so far and leads the championship.

Source:OFFICIAL CYPRUS RALLY PAGE

hari
27th July 2019, 19:15
Supplementary regulations have been published: http://www.cyprusrally.com.cy/uploads/Rally-2019/Competitors/95db72c483.pdf

12 stages - 200.07 km (87% gravel)
HQ / service back to Nicosia

27.09.2019: Free Practice / Qualifying stage & Ceremonial start


28.09.2019: 6 stages - 94,95 km


29.09.2019: 6 stages - 105.62 km



http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2018/cyprus/2.jpg

Antreas
31st July 2019, 10:39
Stages and more information
http://www.cyprusrally.com.cy/en/news/twelve-spectacular-stages-for-this-years-cyprus-rally

hari
31st July 2019, 11:40
In comparison to previous years we have to expect much slower average speeds on the stages, especially on sunday. Last driven in ERC in 2014 Asinou had a average speed below 60 km/h. Also Kourdali and Kapouras are well know to be twisty and very demanding - with slow average speeds. The stages in Troodos mountains for sure will be a big challenge for the R5 cars. Will be an exciting event.

Jarek Z
20th August 2019, 08:56
Ingram is looking for the budget for the Cyprus Rally:
https://www.fiaerc.com/ingram-switches-focus-to-outright-erc-title-bid/

Fast Eddie WRC
20th August 2019, 14:29
Ingram is looking for the budget for the Cyprus Rally:
https://www.fiaerc.com/ingram-switches-focus-to-outright-erc-title-bid/

It's a pity he couldnt share the prize money with Mareš after the finish was so ridiculously close.

€100,000 being decided by 0.3s is so harsh on the loser.

pantealex
20th August 2019, 15:12
It's a pity he couldnt share the prize money with Mareš after the finish was so ridiculously close.

€100,000 being decided by 0.3s is so harsh on the loser.

Ingram did 6 events
Mares did only 4.
4 best counted.

So it wasn´t that 0,3s, Ingram had his opportunies...

Fast Eddie WRC
21st August 2019, 11:19
Ingram did 6 events
Mares did only 4.
4 best counted.

So it wasn´t that 0,3s, Ingram had his opportunies...

But in the end it was...

And Ingram has the Championship lead. Is it right he shouldnt be able to continue from that position ?

Fast Eddie WRC
21st August 2019, 20:55
GoFundMe page set up to support Chris Ingram:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/back-the-brits-european-rally-championship

Mirek
23rd August 2019, 14:26
I see that Ingram's Barum drive made a big impression on Czech fans (roughly 1/3 of the donors so far) :)

Fast Eddie WRC
23rd August 2019, 16:20
I see that Ingram's Barum drive made a big impression on Czech fans (roughly 1/3 of the donors so far) :)

He also has massively more followers than home driver Mareš.

Ingram has worked really hard to raise his profile and now it might pay off...

Fast Eddie WRC
23rd August 2019, 18:45
Just hearing Ingram's recent interview it explains how much (financial) pressure he has been under.

He stated that he couldnt afford to crash as the repair costs would be the end.

Imagine trying to drive flat-out with that knowledge...

Mirek
23rd August 2019, 18:48
If you don't count few top teams and some rich gentleman drivers that is a reality of majority of the entry field on most of the events.

Fast Eddie WRC
23rd August 2019, 21:15
How about Mares as a comparison - what is his funding situation with him having the backing of his country’s national federation, the Autoklub of the Czech Republic ?

Would his season be over if he had one crash ?

dimviii
23rd August 2019, 22:34
How about Mares as a comparison - what is his funding situation with him having the backing of his country’s national federation, the Autoklub of the Czech Republic ?

Would his season be over if he had one crash ?

Lukyanuk was on tight budget too at early fiesta times.

Mirek
23rd August 2019, 22:38
For your information Mareš used to drive an old Škoda Favorit in small amateur events few years back. He was lucky that two guys selected for the ASN junior program one after another failed to even start it so they had to pick someone quickly to fullfil their deals with sponsors. He was quite old to start a career in 25 years or so but he proved to be a lucky shot for them. Ingram even drove Barum more times than Mareš...

I have nothing against Ingram and I have even donated something for his campaign but please stop crying.

Fast Eddie WRC
26th August 2019, 13:22
For your information Mareš used to drive an old Škoda Favorit in small amateur events few years back. He was lucky that two guys selected for the ASN junior program one after another failed to even start it so they had to pick someone quickly to fullfil their deals with sponsors. He was quite old to start a career in 25 years or so but he proved to be a lucky shot for them. Ingram even drove Barum more times than Mareš...

I have nothing against Ingram and I have even donated something for his campaign but please stop crying.

Crying ? It's showing some empathy and understanding.

When you read this maybe you'll accept why I feel strongly about Ingram and what he has been through and make no apologies for showing my support:


"With the financial struggles on top of the pressures of competing at the top of his sport, Ingram admits this season has been "extremely tough" on his mental health.

"I've always had the pressure that this could be taken away so easily, and when you add that I'm so passionate about it, it's had a massive effect on me," he added.

"It has taken a massive toll on me mentally. I can't just go into it and not care about the outcome.

"It's made me so anxious about everything because I can't let this slip away."

And how Barum ended couldn't have been worse for someone so fragile:

"Then, after 220 flat out kilometres at the Barum Czech Rally Zlín, he missed out on the Junior ERC title, and its £100,000 prize fund by just 0.3 seconds.

In any setting that's the smallest of margins, but in rallying terms, with so many variables, it's miniscule.

"It was probably the best performance of my life," said the Toksport WRT driver. "To lose out by 0.3 seconds after three days rallying is just absolutely mental.

"But then we were up against the Czech Federation backed driver on the Czech Federation backed rally, so it was always going to be tough.

"I'd been on the absolute limit throughout the final stage and when I got to the end and saw the margin it was gutting."

Mirek
26th August 2019, 18:13
If Mareš didn't win he would not drive Cyprus and Hungary at all. The ASN program had budget for exactly four events. That's even two less than what Ingram did. If Ingram won I'd congratulate him and won't write walls of text about how it was unfair to Mareš that he could drive only four events.

marcosg
26th August 2019, 18:30
Crying ? It's showing some empathy and understanding.

When you read this maybe you'll accept why I feel strongly about Ingram and what he has been through and make no apologies for showing my support:


"With the financial struggles on top of the pressures of competing at the top of his sport, Ingram admits this season has been "extremely tough" on his mental health.

"I've always had the pressure that this could be taken away so easily, and when you add that I'm so passionate about it, it's had a massive effect on me," he added.

"It has taken a massive toll on me mentally. I can't just go into it and not care about the outcome.

"It's made me so anxious about everything because I can't let this slip away."

And how Barum ended couldn't have been worse for someone so fragile:

"Then, after 220 flat out kilometres at the Barum Czech Rally Zlín, he missed out on the Junior ERC title, and its £100,000 prize fund by just 0.3 seconds.

In any setting that's the smallest of margins, but in rallying terms, with so many variables, it's miniscule.

"It was probably the best performance of my life," said the Toksport WRT driver. "To lose out by 0.3 seconds after three days rallying is just absolutely mental.

"But then we were up against the Czech Federation backed driver on the Czech Federation backed rally, so it was always going to be tough.

"I'd been on the absolute limit throughout the final stage and when I got to the end and saw the margin it was gutting."what this actually shows is that Ingram may not have the mental strength to do it

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PLuto
27th August 2019, 11:41
How about Mares as a comparison - what is his funding situation with him having the backing of his country’s national federation, the Autoklub of the Czech Republic ?

Would his season be over if he had one crash ?

If you want to use Mares as a comparison - situation is very similar. His budget is also not big and any crash would stop him in the season...

marcosg
27th August 2019, 19:02
this is typical situation for young talented drivers

always on a budget to try and prove themselves

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Antreas
30th August 2019, 13:01
Skoda motosport going to support chris Ingram??

Fast Eddie WRC
30th August 2019, 13:40
If Mareš didn't win he would not drive Cyprus and Hungary at all. The ASN program had budget for exactly four events. That's even two less than what Ingram did. If Ingram won I'd congratulate him and won't write walls of text about how it was unfair to Mareš that he could drive only four events.

I never criticised Mares and did congratulate him. All I was trying to do is point out why Ingram has my support and hopefully get some others here to make a donation.
But it looks like others just think its moaning thanks to your comments Mirek.


what this actually shows is that Ingram may not have the mental strength to do it


What it shows is actually the precise opposite.

RS
31st August 2019, 20:22
GoFundMe page set up to support Chris Ingram:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/back-the-brits-european-rally-championship

Nice to see some support from fellow competitors Yaroslav Fedorov, Jan Cerny, Tamara Molinaro, Daniel Trunkat... there may be others.

Do we know when the deadline for this is?

Antreas
7th September 2019, 10:53
Yesterday night was the end of entries given...any surprise entry?

the sniper
10th September 2019, 14:52
What an interesting entry list for Cyprus! This is really what the ERC should be about... https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries/54927-cyprus-rally-2019/

So what's the story behind Hirvonen doing it?!

Fast Eddie WRC
10th September 2019, 15:02
This is really what the ERC should be about...

What exactly... a random old WRC driver interupting the ERC title fight ?

Antreas
10th September 2019, 15:28
Where is Filip Mares guys??

PLuto
10th September 2019, 15:29
So what's the story behind Hirvonen doing it?!

https://www.fiaerc.com/hirvonen-up-for-cyprus-erc-fun-in-the-sun/

PLuto
10th September 2019, 15:29
Where is Filip Mares guys??

Story about Filip Mares will be published soon.

the sniper
10th September 2019, 15:32
What exactly... a random old WRC driver interupting the ERC title fight ?

He's not the only person on the list and I'd be surprised if his pace is up with Ingram and Lukyanuk, but it'd be interesting if he was. People like him add interest... Regularly attracting a wide variety of known drivers, local fast guys, old fast guys, young fast guys, is what can be interesting about the ERC.

Fast Eddie WRC
10th September 2019, 15:57
I see Mikko says he's just going there for fun which will be ok.

It would annoy me if a driver came in and took points off driver's who have been fighting all year.

Re Mares... I read the ERC website saying only 3 drivers are in the title fight and he wasnt one of them ? I thought he was with the dropped scores system ?

Franky
10th September 2019, 17:23
Hirvonen did a round of Estonian national championship in August. It's better not to use the word speed, if to summarise his performance during the weekend.

https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/56046-louna-eesti-ralli-2019/?s=243783

Jarek Z
10th September 2019, 19:32
Hirvonen did a round of Estonian national championship in August. It's better not to use the word speed, if to summarise his performance during the weekend.

https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/56046-louna-eesti-ralli-2019/?s=243783

Jesus Christ, how can he be so slow?! He's not much older than Lukyanuk and look at those stage times...

Mirek
10th September 2019, 19:34
What an interesting entry list for Cyprus! This is really what the ERC should be about... https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries/54927-cyprus-rally-2019/

What is so special about the list? It's one of the worst lists in this year's ERC both in quality and quantity.

the sniper
10th September 2019, 20:34
What is so special about the list? It's one of the worst lists in this year's ERC both in quality and quantity.

It's not particularly special, but I do think it's interesting. I'm genuinely interested to see where Al-Attiyah stands in the Polo. I'm interested to see what Hirvonen does, though I admit I fear he'll just tour around, which makes his presence considerably less interesting... Plus I'm glad to see it confirmed that we'll see Habaj, Lukyanuk and Ingram battle again, which I didn't think was an absolute certainty. I quantified in my first post "for Cyprus" intentionally, as by Cyprus standards, I really think this is a relatively interesting entry. We've seen worse!

KKS
10th September 2019, 22:19
Hirvonen did a round of Estonian national championship in August. It's better not to use the word speed, if to summarise his performance during the weekend.

https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/56046-louna-eesti-ralli-2019/?s=243783
That not on what you should rely on.
1st stage it was quite damp, after rain. New car, new rally, not perfect situation to push on 100%. SS2 Huge fog in twilight. SS03 - ok. On 2nd day broke too many times on stages and he should retire, go to service and on superally join back. After huge timelose -he didn't push on those stages where car works.

dimviii
10th September 2019, 22:33
I'm genuinely interested to see where Al-Attiyah stands in the Polo.!
Nasser is traditionally fast at Cyprus,the big questionmark is if polo will survive.

Antreas
11th September 2019, 04:20
The big disadvantage of the list is tha no more 3 locals with R5,in other countries the locals number of R5 is extremely high

Jarek Z
12th September 2019, 18:48
The big disadvantage of the list is tha no more 3 locals with R5,in other countries the locals number of R5 is extremely high

Yes, even Tsouloftas, the best driver on Cyprus, didn't show up, even though he had such big plans at the beginning of the season:
https://www.fiaerc.com/tsouloftas-shows-his-true-colours-ahead-of-maiden-erc1-junior-bid/

Fast Eddie WRC
13th September 2019, 15:35
Mirek, still no explanation about the missing Mares ?

Mirek
14th September 2019, 15:11
That's more a question for PLuto. I know nothing about the situation at all.

Fast Eddie WRC
16th September 2019, 18:19
Great news... Chris Ingram is back behind the wheel today, testing in Turkey with Toksport.

Fast Eddie WRC
17th September 2019, 13:36
https://i.imgur.com/5ze5XuY.jpg

RS
17th September 2019, 13:51
Does Ingram have a new sponsor?

Also that's an old Fabia.. thought he would start with an Evo.

Fast Eddie WRC
17th September 2019, 14:13
Does Ingram have a new sponsor?

Also that's an old Fabia.. thought he would start with an Evo.

No news on a new sponsor, but CF24/7 are still backing him.

He said he's not sure whether he's going to have a Fabia Evo. He is testing in 'Henning Solberg's car' today.

Co-driven
18th September 2019, 19:30
I think he was in Turkey as coach to Chilean driver Emilio Fernandez, that's why they used the same car that Solberg used during the weekend.

mousti
19th September 2019, 06:01
Hope he does it with the Evo, should be a good confidence boost for winning it all.

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Fast Eddie WRC
19th September 2019, 09:59
Nice post about Chris Ingram on Filip Mares FB page :

"Our duel with Chris and Ross was really tight at the Barum Rally, but a lot has been written about that. The guys showed very good performance on the Czech tracks and it was really hard to race with them.

And Chris and Ross need support from fans now. Unlike us, the guys started in the Azores and Canaries and in the ERC ranking they jumped to the lead after six races. They have a good chance of winning the whole championship, but lack the money in the budget. That's why the link. Many of you have already contributed to the boys. Maybe some are still thinking about it.."

Fast Eddie WRC
20th September 2019, 12:10
ERC event preview: Cyprus Rally
https://t.co/KqRzyFVYx5

Fast Eddie WRC
25th September 2019, 16:30
Rakan AlRashed, one of the TokSport drivers:

'Recce day 1 at Cyprus Rally. We did 3 stages two of which were extremely rough, SS1 and SS2! We lost our front right wheel... no problem, thanks to the local drivers for helping us !'

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFUasuXXoAUfI6X?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFUasuQXYAICE1a?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

Kestask
26th September 2019, 12:05
https://youtu.be/_oxvY_zYKa8 Lukyanuk onboard test

Fast Eddie WRC
27th September 2019, 08:15
QS times are in:

https://m.rally-base.com/2019/cyprus-rally-2019/

br21
27th September 2019, 11:11
https://www.cyprusrally.com.cy/uploads/Rally-2019/Competitors/2163ed602a.pdf
this is interesting...

Fast Eddie WRC
27th September 2019, 11:45
Road order choice is the reverse of the QS result. Let's see how wise this is ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFdx13sXoAAn_au?format=jpg&name=medium

dimviii
27th September 2019, 14:40
Problem for Albert von Thurn und Taxis on free practice @CYPRUSRALLY
credit Tolis @eWRCresults

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFcnRJyU0AIVVGG?format=jpg&name=small


edit roll video
https://youtu.be/CmDb7_LqitE

dimviii
27th September 2019, 14:50
nice jump
https://youtu.be/7uMz-c2i51o

Antreas
27th September 2019, 15:23
Video from Qualifying Stage (all drivers)
https://youtu.be/8G63eL3dfGc

Fast Eddie WRC
27th September 2019, 15:58
QS Official
https://youtu.be/GXLJG7ze5UI

Jarek Z
27th September 2019, 22:19
Al Attiyah often has interesting sponsors...

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/static.fiaerc.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Nasser-Al-Attiyah-1-1200x799.jpg

Mirek
28th September 2019, 00:12
Some reading for you, Jarek.
http://priyadsouza.com/powerful-families-qatar-al-thani/

Munkvy
28th September 2019, 08:53
https://www.cyprusrally.com.cy/uploads/Rally-2019/Competitors/2163ed602a.pdf
this is interesting...

I would have thought that would result in exclusion, not a small fine?

RS
28th September 2019, 09:15
Watching ss3 live on Youtube, pretty good footage.

dimviii
28th September 2019, 09:47
surprised by how slow is Hirvonen

Fast Eddie WRC
28th September 2019, 09:53
Nasser & Lukyanuk on another level here. The live pictures showing them flying and taking all kinds of off road cuts.

I get it from Nasser who can risk this, but Lukyanuk has a Title to drive for...

RS
28th September 2019, 11:22
Nasser & Lukyanuk on another level here. The live pictures showing them flying and taking all kinds of off road cuts.

I get it from Nasser who can risk this, but Lukyanuk has a Title to drive for...

Luky says he is not pushing because he's not sure how strong the car is.

Fast Eddie WRC
28th September 2019, 11:40
Luky says he is not pushing because he's not sure how strong the car is.

Pictures said different !

Like I saw him go the wrong side of a bush at the roadside.

Got Mail
28th September 2019, 12:22
I would have thought that would result in exclusion, not a small fine?

2 minute penalty I think...

Fast Eddie WRC
28th September 2019, 13:06
Interviewer: Mikko its very rough, are you slowing worried that bits will fall off the car ?

Hirvonen: No, its strong. It's a Ford !

:)

Fast Eddie WRC
28th September 2019, 15:41
Chris Ingram sees my name every time he gets into his car ! :cool:

https://i.imgur.com/igKB7PZ.jpg

dimviii
28th September 2019, 18:47
https://twitter.com/matthieubaumel/status/1177994556496908288

PLuto
28th September 2019, 20:40
I would have thought that would result in exclusion, not a small fine?

He has two minutes penalty from beginning of the rally.

Fast Eddie WRC
29th September 2019, 08:40
Morning loop done. No major position changes. Ingram did well on SS9 setting a great time despite being in Herczig's dust.

Fast Eddie WRC
29th September 2019, 11:10
Cyprus Rally 2019 - Ingram's Sponsors Record
https://youtu.be/5saohpZOUtc

Fast Eddie WRC
29th September 2019, 11:30
Habaj in trouble - electrical issue.

'The car is not working, we have some electrical issue. We have no power at throttle, I'm not sure if we are able to continue, I have to check'.

Fast Eddie WRC
29th September 2019, 11:37
SS10 Lukyanuk stopped !!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFoN4ViXUAAizSZ?format=jpg&name=small

Fast Eddie WRC
29th September 2019, 12:13
https://www.fiaerc.com/breaking-news-erc-title-race-takes-shock-twist-as-lukyanuk-retires/

No fuel pressure.

Fast Eddie WRC
29th September 2019, 13:15
Ingram brings home the car and great points for the Championship. Fantastic result. :)

Got Mail
29th September 2019, 13:26
Winner takes all in Hungary or is Chris in a position to close it out today??

It goes to Hungary.

It's a long way from finished.

Fast Eddie WRC
29th September 2019, 16:39
@FIAERC:
Well done, Chris Ingram!
That's a podium and a solid championship lead before Hungary!

Jarek Z
29th September 2019, 17:14
SS10 Lukyanuk stopped !!

Jeez, is Lukyanuk really going to lose this championship? Provisional standings after Cyprus:

1 Chris Ingram 131
2 Łukasz Habaj 113
3 Alex Lukyanuk 110 (113 in total, but only 6 best results count)

Lehus
29th September 2019, 19:33
Jeez, is Lukyanuk really going to lose this championship? Provisional standings after Cyprus:

1 Chris Ingram 131
2 Łukasz Habaj 113
3 Alex Lukyanuk 110 (113 in total, but only 6 best results count)

It happens.

What happened to Galatariotis?

dimviii
29th September 2019, 19:53
It happens.

What happened to Galatariotis?

pitty that you preserved the car not fighting with Nasser,and the result was a mechanical failure.
about Galatariotis dont know,just what posted the official site

INFORMATION ABOUT SS 12
retired (8 - Galatariotis Simos / Ioannou Antonis): excluded - car missing in final parc ferme

dimviii
29th September 2019, 20:05
some news about Galatariotis retirement from cyprus site.Sounds strange.

News - bomb: Galatariotis excluded from Cyprus Rally overall ranking!
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The bad news we just received: Simos Galatariotis unfortunately excluded from the race and the overall ranking of Cyprus Rally!

According to ERC regulations as well as Cyprus Rally shortly after the prizes were awarded, cars and teams had to return to the parc ferme in Larnaca. Unfortunately perhaps the enthusiasm or perhaps the tiredness of the team was forgotten and headed straight to the Nicosia service park. There he was told that he was excluded from the race under the rules! His name has already been removed from the official classification of the race, see here.

We look forward to more updates soon!

https://car.com.cy/agones/rally/eidisi-bomba-apokleistike-o-galatariotis-apo-tin-geniki-katataxi

m-ast
29th September 2019, 20:07
https://www.cyprusrally.com.cy/uploads/Rally-2019/Competitors/e0e5984427.pdf

here the decision

Fast Eddie WRC
29th September 2019, 20:16
So Ingram moves up to 2nd place in Cyprus and more points !

br21
29th September 2019, 20:18
So Ingram moves up to 2nd place in Cyprus and more points !

https://www.cyprusrally.com.cy/uploads/Rally-2019/Competitors/f9dc9988d9.pdf

tommeke_B
29th September 2019, 20:27
Great way to ruin everything...

Fast Eddie WRC
29th September 2019, 20:29
New standings:
Ingram 135
Habaj 116
Lukyanuk 107

KKS
29th September 2019, 20:54
https://www.cyprusrally.com.cy/uploads/Rally-2019/Competitors/f9dc9988d9.pdf
Great way to start new funding company for FIA fines for Ingram ))

Mirek
30th September 2019, 08:50
I was out for the whole weekend not following the rallying at all and now I see what strange things happened. Let's hope Hungary and the title battle isn't decided from the green table...

AnttiL
30th September 2019, 09:28
https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/1178279706594021376


If Ingram takes the title, it'll be historical. First time for a driver who have never even led a rally in a championship he's winning.

Fast Eddie WRC
30th September 2019, 09:51
Ingram's very low budget really necessitated more careful driving, unlike Lukyanuk's flat-out win-or-crash approach.

This is paying off...

https://i.imgur.com/J4DYI99.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/TFVJwMo.jpg

Oliverk
30th September 2019, 12:42
No one cares about careful driving. No future in WRC.

dimviii
30th September 2019, 13:22
Ingram's very low budget really necessitated more careful driving, unlike Lukyanuk's flat-out win-or-crash approach.



you mean that with budget he can be as fast as Luky?

get real man.
Nobody intrested for such drivers.Even spectators.

Mirek
30th September 2019, 13:50
Ingram is nice to watch on stages, Dimitris.

dimviii
30th September 2019, 15:18
Ingram is nice to watch on stages, Dimitris.

at the pace he had at Cyprus i dont think.
we are talking about 1,5-2 sec/km,this is difference with current wrc vs r5 cars.

Mirek
30th September 2019, 15:25
Luky is nearly 40 years old. There is nothing to prove anymore.

dimviii
30th September 2019, 16:28
Problem is good to watch doesnt usually win championships consistency does..

i dont care if Luky or Ingram win championship/s.
as a spectator i want to see fast cars at rally roads.i want to see fights,i want to watch cars at limits.
Luky is one to watch,even if he ditched it here and there.
Ingram NOT.
Ingram cant make a championship worth to watch/spectate.
Luky can. Hope now is clear.

dimviii
30th September 2019, 16:29
Lots of people on here still think he's going to be WRC Champion..

i dont think so.
what i see is that plenty offered money to Ingram to become champion.

Fast Eddie WRC
30th September 2019, 16:32
you mean that with budget he can be as fast as Luky?

get real man.
Nobody intrested for such drivers. Even spectators.

1. No, and I never said that. But he has often said how he could go faster if he could take the risks.

2. Nobody interested, so how come so much financial support from the fans ?

dimviii
30th September 2019, 16:48
1. No, and I never said that. But he has often said how he could go faster if he could take the risks.
same applies for everybody.


2. Nobody interested, so how come so much financial support from the fans ?

financial support from crowdfunding has also Louise Cook for years.So?

Antreas
30th September 2019, 17:05
Highlights from Cyprus Rally 2019!
https://youtu.be/9WhEwuiJGSs

Jarek Z
30th September 2019, 17:44
Lukyanuk says that everything is still possible in the championship:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA1JrflBgn4

Mirek
30th September 2019, 18:18
Everything not. For example Paolo Nobre will not win the title.

Jarek Z
30th September 2019, 19:32
Everything not. For example Paolo Nobre will not win the title.

He currently loses 133 points to the leader :D
https://www.fiaerc.com/standings/#

Jarek Z
30th September 2019, 19:36
Some reading for you, Jarek.
http://priyadsouza.com/powerful-families-qatar-al-thani/

Thanks Mirek! A very interesting article. I didn't know that those families have such a big influence on the whole country.

By the way, I have just read that Al Attiyah is considering a full European Rally Championship campaign in 2020. I guess he doesn't have budget problems ;)
https://www.fiaerc.com/and-now-for-more-al-attiyah-considering-full-erc-campaign/

pantealex
1st October 2019, 06:05
https://www.fiaerc.com/standings/#

Why didn´t Lyku get any points?
Bonus points after day1?
His worst result is 3p so he got less than that from Cyprus?

Rallyper
1st October 2019, 10:20
same applies for everybody.




I agree with you on arguments in the whole (Ingram vs. Luky). But in this quoted one you are wrong. It´s not same for everyone. For sure if you don´t worry about money you can drive with other focus.
Or turn it around. Worries about funding makes every rally could be last if you crash...

Fast Eddie WRC
1st October 2019, 11:54
Ingram has shown speed very close to Lukyanuk on a few occaisions when he has been able to push. But at most stage ends he say he's on a 'safe strategy' needing to protect the car and also think of the championship (Junior or Overall).

No-one denies that Lukyanuk is fast, but he also risks a lot too. He could end up with just one Title out of a possible five due to this approach.

Lehus
1st October 2019, 14:38
Problem is good to watch doesnt usually win championships consistency does. Lucky can win for sure but also fuck it up in equal measure. Like Kajito what has Lucky got to prove at this level? He should have moved on after winning the series if he was serious about progressing any further as getting beaten to the title in 19 by someone driving with one eye on his meagre budget isnt going to impress many I'm afraid.
regretfully we do not have budget for further steps. and if you want to drive at least something, what can you do :)

according to your logic Hirvonen should not ever try ;)


Luky is nearly 40 years old. There is nothing to prove anymore.
correct.



2. Nobody interested, so how come so much financial support from the fans ?
crowd funding doesn't help a lot. with the average event about 45k to get 9 from the crowdfunding will help you to close some minor budget gap, but it cannot help you constantly


https://www.fiaerc.com/standings/#

Why didn´t Lyku get any points?
Bonus points after day1?
His worst result is 3p so he got less than that from Cyprus?
you have to put the car to the PF to get points. and as they will be rejected next round we decided not to go to Larnaca.


I agree with you on arguments in the whole (Ingram vs. Luky). But in this quoted one you are wrong. It´s not same for everyone. For sure if you don´t worry about money you can drive with other focus.
Or turn it around. Worries about funding makes every rally could be last if you crash...
we are also limited on budget. more often we have no idea if we would have enough for the next event. but we are lucky that our sponsors prefer to have spectacular drive instead of points

nothing is as boring as safe approach. especially now, when we have one title already.

also, even safe approach doesn't guarantee you a thing. look at Azores or Cyprus. or Italy, when we've lost 8 points due to unknown complication. (BTW this time they measured about 5mm less than actual, still within limits)


Ingram has shown speed very close to Lukyanuk on a few occaisions when he has been able to push.
when we were on safe approach probably ;)

dimviii
1st October 2019, 16:34
I agree with you on arguments in the whole (Ingram vs. Luky). But in this quoted one you are wrong. It´s not same for everyone. For sure if you don´t worry about money you can drive with other focus.
Or turn it around. Worries about funding makes every rally could be last if you crash...

Per what i want to say, is that even with no budget problem,a driver at Ingrams level, cant catch drivers like Luky.
Even with a proven faster car.

kure91
1st October 2019, 17:32
Thanks Mirek! A very interesting article. I didn't know that those families have such a big influence on the whole country.

By the way, I have just read that Al Attiyah is considering a full European Rally Championship campaign in 2020. I guess he doesn't have budget problems ;)
https://www.fiaerc.com/and-now-for-more-al-attiyah-considering-full-erc-campaign/

I would say, that Al-Attiyah have said something like that - full ERC (or some other championship plans) a couple of times. Until the end of 2020 and all ERC rounds on his profile at ewrc-results, I wouldn´t believe it :)

Fast Eddie WRC
2nd October 2019, 16:02
crowd funding doesn't help a lot. with the average event about 45k to get 9 from the crowdfunding will help you to close some minor budget gap, but it cannot help you constantly


It was £11k raised and money is now coming in for Rally Hungary.

Chris Ingram @ChrisIngramGB

'Everyone who has supported our chance to be the first Brits in 50 years to win the FIA European Rally Championship will be entered into a prize competition draw to win a ride. Everyone will have their name featured on the car for the final round. Let's make history together !'

Fast Eddie WRC
2nd October 2019, 16:19
but we are lucky that our sponsors prefer to have spectacular drive instead of points


I guess they have had quite a lot of publicity from his driving this year... ;)

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/czmnIyPMFg8/maxresdefault.jpg

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/static.fiaerc.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/69312480_2638666549498938_4458980118370451456_n-e1565948904163.jpg

https://cdn-blog.scorum.com/production/ssekulji/905eabfe4ca56d23_500

stefanvv
2nd October 2019, 16:44
Ufffff

Mirek
2nd October 2019, 17:12
I guess they have had quite a lot of publicity from his driving this year... ;)

That was pretty low.

Lehus
2nd October 2019, 17:27
I guess they have had quite a lot of publicity from his driving this year... ;)

Good attempt....almost

Third pic - no brakes in Azores
First - damage due to broken wheel (rubber destroyed the outer parts)

Only second one was our mistake on the free practice with no damage at all

dimviii
2nd October 2019, 19:30
That was pretty low.

it wasnt just low,it was totally stupid and unacceptable comment, to the faster crew at erc at recent years.

Fast Eddie WRC
4th October 2019, 13:43
Jeeeez you guys, it was a joke hence the ';)'- like when Lehus said Ingram was only close to Lukyanuk when he was on a 'safe approach'.

If I wanted I could've shown far worse from other years: https://www.google.com/search?q=lukyanuk+crash&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB847GB848&sxsrf=ACYBGNSOUTi8rWFP9Gc-LijOeBR_bOPzNA:1570195345913&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjYv8i-2YLlAhWjSxUIHZ4KCZ0Q_AUIEygC&biw=1600&bih=757

Lehus
5th October 2019, 17:46
Jeeeez you guys, it was a joke hence the ';)'- like when Lehus said Ingram was only close to Lukyanuk when he was on a 'safe approach'.

If I wanted I could've shown far worse from other years: https://www.google.com/search?q=lukyanuk+crash&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB847GB848&sxsrf=ACYBGNSOUTi8rWFP9Gc-LijOeBR_bOPzNA:1570195345913&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjYv8i-2YLlAhWjSxUIHZ4KCZ0Q_AUIEygC&biw=1600&bih=757
Oh, that one was real :)
Isn’t it the way the rally should be or they were confusing me for 10 years? ;)

Fast Eddie WRC
6th October 2019, 15:29
Oh, that one was real :)


So why say 'probably' and use the ;) ?

Jarek Z
6th October 2019, 20:02
What happened to Galatariotis?

You can find the explanation here:
https://www.fiaerc.com/galatariotis-puts-erc-cyprus-rally-exclusion-down-to-a-misunderstanding/

Munkvy
7th October 2019, 06:00
Sounds suspicious, surely everyone knows about parc ferme...