[WRC] Rally Turkey Marmaris 2019

[jbmarcus21]

Here the new 2019 edition of Rally Turkey.
Very similar roads except one new stage (17 stages + 317.88kms)
Full timetable ► http://bit.ly/30YQBh1

[AnttiL]

Some shuffling with stages from day to another.

Icmeler now opens the rally. It's a quite fast stage with several tarmac patches (Ogier won this one with the hand-fixed car)
Cicekli now driven only once on Sunday. It was the slowest stage last year, very twisty.
New stage Kizlan driven twice on Saturday.
The Ovacik stage is dropped from Sunday. This is where Tänak almost went off, and some JWRC driver went straight in a surprising corner after a long climb.
The 38 km Cetibeli will probably be the longest gravel stage of the season

Some changes in length to the stages here and there.

[AnttiL]

The maps are here https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-Turkey-2019

[bomber21]

Last year my trip to WRC Rally Turkey was organized by a travel agency (group travel).
This year the travel agency won't include this rally in their plans.
Do you know of any travel agencies organizing group travel to WRC Turkey 2019?

Thank you

[GigiGalliNo1]

It's a pretty simple rally to do by your self and you have the freedom. Easy stage access for spectators, I do not believe people need tickets as it's free range when you get on a stage but of course in safe places. Happy to share some good locations/stages.

[bomber21]

It's a pretty simple rally to do by your self and you have the freedom. Easy stage access for spectators, I do not believe people need tickets as it's free range when you get on a stage but of course in safe places. Happy to share some good locations/stages.

Thank you for the reply. I know many things about this rally since I was there last year spectating SSS, Ula, Datca, Cicecli, Icmeler and Marmaris PS.
I was just hoping I would not do this trip alone.

Some tips:


Tickets are not needed for most SS, except for the PS (president Erdogan was present and the safety rules were TOO strict).
SSS in Marmaris was spectated by myriads of people but the mountains had almost no fans at all.
Service park during the first days was that empty you could have a chit chat with the drivers :P
Access to most SS is relatively easy and Marmaris is a nice city with lots of European tourists.

[bomber21]

It is now less than two months before the rally and the site is not yet updated with 2019 content...

Is it better to buy a trusted GPS device instead of using a smartphone for traveling to the stages? Last year I had big problems with smartphone's signal.

[racerx1979]

It is now less than two months before the rally and the site is not yet updated with 2019 content...

Is it better to buy a trusted GPS device instead of using a smartphone for traveling to the stages? Last year I had big problems with smartphone's signal.

The VIP experience was 100 Euro per person last year and it was an amazing value. They certainly lost money on me and my wife as we drank tons of wine and ate all the free food. The boat ride and stage watching from the sea was also a cool experience. If they offer it again at that price I would seriously consider it. We didn't even have to drive one of the days as they had a bus shuttling everyone around.

[masa90]

Hmm any info on that VIP service? That sounds like an amazing value.

[racerx1979]

Booked it directly from their website last time. Keep checking the website and act fast. They sold out really quick!

[GigiGalliNo1]

It is now less than two months before the rally and the site is not yet updated with 2019 content...

Is it better to buy a trusted GPS device instead of using a smartphone for traveling to the stages? Last year I had big problems with smartphone's signal.

Download Maps.Me app

Get the DMZ maps file from Planet Marcus (For each rally in fact)

Opening the DMZ files in Maps.Me and you can have each stage, route to and access roads in offline

[aykutbilir]

It is now less than two months before the rally and the site is not yet updated with 2019 content...

Is it better to buy a trusted GPS device instead of using a smartphone for traveling to the stages? Last year I had big problems with smartphone's signal.

Stage altitudes someyimes get crazy or so into forest so signals dead sometimes. Get a GPS instrad of smartphone is the best option.


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[pantealex]

Hyundai:
Neuville-Mikkelsen-Sordo
Confirmed

[mknight]

The only real question there was Sordo or Breen. Sordo won Sardinia and slow gravel is atm prbly his best surface, but didn't drive there last year. Breen did well on friday last year but didn't drive much after that since the car burned.

[pantealex]

http://www.rallyturkey.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/WRCRallyTurkey_Program.pdf

Entries closed today

Entrylist should be out Friday.

[mknight]

Maybe Paddon will make it? Together with Wales probably his best chance before Australia.

I'd say it's pretty sure MSport enters Evans, even if they have to replace him later in worst case.

[AnttiL]

Entry list https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries/54470-rally-turkey-2019/

[pantealex]

Entry list https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries/54470-rally-turkey-2019/

http://www.rallyturkey.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Entry-List-Rally-Turkey.pdf
Official one (same names than ewrc has)

[Jarek Z]

Just 31 entries? It looked better last year, didn't it?

[the sniper]

Just 31 entries? It looked better last year, didn't it?

Only because JWRC were there last year.

[AnttiL]

https://gryazin.com/gryazin_will_miss_wrc_turkey

Gryazin skips Turkey. They won't fix the crashed car from Barum, instead go on later with a Fabia EVO

[AnttiL]

Route update. Ula, Kizlan and Yesilbelde changed the most.

https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-Turkey-2019

[AnttiL]

http://itgetsfasternow.com/2019/08/26/route-preview-rally-turkey-2019/

Route preview.
- Mostly same stages as last year with some small changes here and there
- New stage Kizlan on Saturday, it's very fast, wide and smooth. Completely different to the other stages. Dare I predict 120 km/h average speeds?
- Last year's fastest stage Göcke has most of its route replaced with a narrow and technical road.
- The rough ending from the Ula stage is removed. This is where Evans and Østberg broke their cars.
- Friday has more than half of the rally length.

[Pršljen]

http://itgetsfasternow.com/2019/08/26/route-preview-rally-turkey-2019/

- Friday has more than half of the rally length.

He who survives - wins. Hopefully someone out of top 3 since they'll sweep the hell out of those stages.

[EstWRC]

wow, they really want to make life hard for the TOP3 on Friday, half the distance with one day...

although last year Neuville lead with Ogier second after first day

[AnttiL]

although last year Neuville lead with Ogier second after first day

Dust on SS2 was a major issue but Neuville also won two other stages. The roads also get rougher after each car.

[meh]

If we didn't like Panzerplatte stage in Germany because it's "lottery"... then entire Turkey is like "Rally Casino". You can be good, but you NEED to have luck also.

[aykutbilir]

This event is for sure really challenging for cars and drivers. Abdolute a limit tester for everybody.
Hope weather will be good too :)


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[AnttiL]

Evans not starting

[cali]

Evans not startingThis really sucks. Still not fully recovered?

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[AnttiL]

This really sucks. Still not fully recovered?

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That's it, set to return in Wales https://www.m-sport.co.uk/single-post/2019/08/30/EVANS-SET-TO-RETURN-IN-WALES

[Tarmop]

These kind of injuries take time and won`t fully recover at all quite often..

[T16]

That's it, set to return in Wales https://www.m-sport.co.uk/single-post/2019/08/30/EVANS-SET-TO-RETURN-IN-WALES

Anyone know what his injuries are? Crushed vertebrae or something like that?

[stefanvv]

This really sucks. Still not fully recovered?

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Wilson was almost sure he'll miss Turkey during Deutschland. It's rough rally for his injuring.

[KKS]

If we didn't like Panzerplatte stage in Germany because it's "lottery"... then entire Turkey is like "Rally Casino". You can be good, but you NEED to have luck also.
So then it's Ogier rally ))

[MentalParadox]

"The rough ending from the Ula stage is removed. This is where Evans and Østberg broke their cars."

This is everything that's wrong with modern WRC.

Experiencing difficulty?
2005: upgrade the car, drive more carefully
2019: make the rally easier and shorter or just scrap it altogether

[mknight]

Most people on this forum were last year screaming how wrong is it to have a rally where you can't push 100% without destroying the car.

[AnttiL]

We don’t know why it was removed.

[Jarek Z]

"The rough ending from the Ula stage is removed. This is where Evans and Østberg broke their cars."

This is everything that's wrong with modern WRC.

Experiencing difficulty?
2005: upgrade the car, drive more carefully
2019: make the rally easier and shorter or just scrap it altogether

Do you think there is anybody in the world that would like to go to a rally to see careful driving?

[Rallyper]

Evans not starting

Entry list yet not updated...

GG to replace evans? Who will drive R5?

[AnttiL]

Entry list yet not updated...

GG to replace evans? Who will drive R5?

I assume just Pontus replacing

[Rallyper]

And no itinerary can be seen... Need one for Pickems. Anyone?

[rage82]

Yes, you are right. Nobody is replacing Evans this time. Suninen and Pontus with WRC cars and Green Smith with R5.

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[Rallyper]

I assume just Pontus replacing

Not replacing. Both were on entrylist from beginning.

[Rallyper]

I assume just Pontus replacing

Not replacing. Both were on entrylist from beginning.

[AnttiL]

And no itinerary can be seen... Need one for Pickems. Anyone?

https://www.ewrc-results.com/timetable/54470-rally-turkey-marmaris-2019/
https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-Turkey-2019

[Rallyper]

https://www.ewrc-results.com/timetable/54470-rally-turkey-marmaris-2019/
https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-Turkey-2019

Yeah. They are good, but not official ones. Which always can be seen on official website, but I think not Turkey...

[AnttiL]

For the pickems, you need the starting time of SS1? That usually doesn't change much.

[Rallyper]

For sure. You are right, son.

But please, let me handle this my way. No offence.

I´m a bit bureaucratic, you know... ;)

And I want to do as right as possible from the beginning. :)

[KKS]

And no itinerary can be seen... Need one for Pickems. Anyone?
http://www.rallyturkey.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/2019WRCRallyTurkeyRG-1.pdf
Page25

[Rallyper]

http://www.rallyturkey.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/2019WRCRallyTurkeyRG-1.pdf
Page25

oh. Thanks. did only look in RG2... My bad.

Have you seen confirmed entry list, with changes?

[AnttiL]

The RG1 itinerary is already outdated, but the SS1 start time has not been changed :)

[Rallyper]

The RG1 itinerary is already outdated, but the SS1 start time has not been changed :)

And where did you find this out?

Edit: EWRC I reccon... :)

[AnttiL]

And where did you find this out?

Edit: EWRC I reccon... :)

In fact ewrc has copied only RG1 itinerary

[KKS]

The RG1 itinerary is already outdated, but the SS1 start time has not been changed :)
And we only find out it when official Bulletin came out

[Rallyper]

And we only find out it when official Bulletin came out

I have not seen any bulletins on official notice board yet...

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDk4h59XoAIZ6vi?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Entertainer]

Would be nice to see Gill do good in Turkey, he was/is far too good for APRC and challenged Tidemand in a lot of the rallies during PT: s APRC-season.

[KKS]

I have not seen any bulletins on official notice board yet...
http://www.rallyturkey.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Bulletin.No1_.pdf

Now it's available

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hyundai Motorsport
Heading for the delights of Turkey with high expectations !

Find out more in our preview:
https://motorsport.hyundai.com/turkish-delights/

[AnttiL]

Toyota https://toyotagazooracing.com/release/2019/wrc/rd11-preview.html

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Toyota GAZOO Racing WRT
Next stop after successful @ADACRallye is @RallyTurkey
What are the expectations for the upcoming event? Watch the preview video and our drivers will tell you.

https://twitter.com/TGR_WRC/status/1169916636951957504

[AnttiL]

https://media.citroenracing.com/en/default-title-276

[mknight]

We need wing picture(s)!

[AnttiL]

M-Sport https://www.m-sport.co.uk/single-post/2019/09/06/TIME-TO-TURN-UP-THE-HEAT-IN-TURKEY

[GigiGalliNo1]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190907/c7201e370febbe638d4dea4ea51c37fb.jpg

Service parking is taking place.

As the president was planned to arrive last year, a small field beside the service park was used for his 3 black hawk helicopters as landing zone, it was ashphalted the day before (!). I’m guessing that it’ll be used as media parking this year if not then it was torn apart back to normal for the community haha

[Sulland]

28 cars is on the entrylist.

Are organisers getting a lot of money from FIA to arrange a ERC rally, or are they normally sponsor financed.
I hope the entry fee from competitors is a minor percentage in their budget...

[EstWRC]

so finally a rallying week...

Honestly dont know what to expect. Last year Neuville and Ogier were very strong pacewise until their problems, Toyotas really struggled on Friday but were better on next days. Like we saw last year with Ott, that you have to just mind your own pace and business on this rally and you could get a very good result.

Friday will be a crucial day with more than half of the rally distance covered.

[the sniper]

28 cars is on the entrylist.

Are organisers getting a lot of money from FIA to arrange a ERC rally, or are they normally sponsor financed.
I hope the entry fee from competitors is a minor percentage in their budget...

I presume it's being wholly funded by the Turkish state, particularly given who turned up last year.

[AnttiL]

Last year Toyotas were really struggling with the grip. Remember how everyone expected them to fail miserably on suspension and radiator damages based on what happened in Portugal and Sardegna? Maybe they had played it safe with suspension setups compromising the performance? Also, Ogier and Neuville drove at absolute maximum and you could wonder if that was too much for their cars? Or do I remember correctly that Neuville's issue was a mistake by a mechanic? or Mikkelsen's?

In addition to Friday being the longest day, it's also the roughest, at least based on reports from last year. Obviously things could have changed for this year with roads repaired after the rally or deteriorated by weather etc. The only truly rough parts on Saturday are only parts on the Datca stage, and on Sunday only single passages on each stage.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak says he thinks his car's performance advantage will mean he wont have to push as hard as the others and will mean taking fewer risks.

Plus I think with his points lead, a good finish will be his target rather than going all-out for the win. Manu points will also be important to him for the team.

[AnttiL]

In the WRC+ preview magazine, many drivers said they didn’t know last year what to expect and will have a more cautious approach this year...or then it’s again psychological games to make others drive slower ;)

[mknight]

Last year Toyotas were really struggling with the grip. Remember how everyone expected them to fail miserably on suspension and radiator damages based on what happened in Portugal and Sardegna? Maybe they had played it safe with suspension setups compromising the performance? Also, Ogier and Neuville drove at absolute maximum and you could wonder if that was too much for their cars? Or do I remember correctly that Neuville's issue was a mistake by a mechanic? or Mikkelsen's?

Toyota confirmed in interviews after last year that they used harder springs and other changes to suspension to avoid damage and that compromised performance.

Both Neuville's (damper popped up trough bonnet) and Mikkelsen's (front diff fail) issues last year were indeed due to mechanic(s) according to Hyundai. Nandan even mentioned people getting fired for that before GB.

[dimviii]

amazing photo from last year

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEBvpUFXkAET8xp?format=jpg&name=large

[AnttiL]

amazing photo from last year

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEBvpUFXkAET8xp?format=jpg&name=large

Probably from the shakedown after multiple runs. Not many that bad sections in the rally.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No fears for assured Suninen - https://t.co/7FPCnRmxn5

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@MattJelonek
New stage SS10/13 Kizlan at Rally Turkey. Absolutly fast and smooth, with not 1 or 2 massive jumps but 4 in the first 1.5 kms !
https://t.co/qZjlzS59PR

Natural jumps I hope...

[tc10a]

@MattJelonek
New stage SS10/13 Kizlan at Rally Turkey. Absolutly fast and smooth, with not 1 or 2 massive jumps but 4 in the first 1.5 kms !
https://t.co/qZjlzS59PR

Natural jumps I hope...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2n50U5wB0A

[AnttiL]

Natural jumps for sure. It's a crazy fast stage. The beginning has jumps and then it becomes very wide and smooth. Completely different to the rest of the rally.

[Jarek Z]

Is it a typical stage of Rally Turkey?
https://www.facebook.com/atWorldphotography/photos/pcb.1301352896686889/1301352696686909/?type=3&theater

[racerx1979]

pretty much. we drove through some stages last year and our rental renault suv had some serious problems in some sections. the local R2 guys looked lik Dakar spec fiestas with crazy ride height... they know whats up! haha.

[AnttiL]

Is it a typical stage of Rally Turkey?
https://www.facebook.com/atWorldphotography/photos/pcb.1301352896686889/1301352696686909/?type=3&theater

The edges of the roads have those huge stones falling from the cliffs (as seen on one of the other pictures) and sometimes they also end up into the road.

[EstWRC]

Natural jumps for sure. It's a crazy fast stage. The beginning has jumps and then it becomes very wide and smooth. Completely different to the rest of the rally.

sound like a Toyota 1-2-3 on this stage?

[CWJ]

The edges of the roads have those huge stones falling from the cliffs (as seen on one of the other pictures) and sometimes they also end up into the road.

sound like a Toyota disaster on this stage ;-?

[AnttiL]

sound like a Toyota 1-2-3 on this stage?

I'd say 1-2-3 for the three latest starters.

[EstWRC]

saw the rear wing on Toyotas instagram story and as far i can tell its the same as in Germany.

i think they just tested something "extreme" or "new" in Finland for future maybe? (im just guessing), they did Turkey tests also with the Germany spec wing, at least Tänak like mknight has said and saw from the vids.

[lluisva555]

1843

wait and see...

[EstWRC]

how wrong was I?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEHTA16VAAA6Vkt?format=jpg&name=medium

https://twitter.com/Karlip1/status/1171449397466370053?s=20

[mknight]

yep, massive change, like on the censored Finland testing vid. This will generate controversy. (like: "Were they allowed to run with twice as big wing as others for 2,5 years?")

[er88]

Looks a bit tin pot compared to the previous version!! Highly unlikely that a big change like that doesn't impact in some way, whether it's small or more noticeable for the drivers...

[mknight]

Well in Turkey it shouldn't matter much except on that one stage. But come GB and especially Spain it should matter. Suddenly Fiesta comes up as clear favourite for Spain, but we don't know how much they had to change their wing.

[Pršljen]

Bit it's not going to make Toyota so much slower than the others, it can't be the only thing that was making them faster than the others so far. Nothing too dramatic will change, I suppose.

[Norm75]

Looks a bit tin pot compared to the previous version!! Highly unlikely that a big change like that doesn't impact in some way, whether it's small or more noticeable for the drivers...

Maybe, maybe not so much.
You would think that an item that aids aerodynamics more like a windscreen would make more difference, but both Meeke and Latvala have proved in the past not so much!

[AnttiL]

I'm not an expert in aerodynamics, but I would guess the windscreen affects more the top speed and acceleration, whereas the rear wing affects cornering speed, and I think the latter is more important in rallying.

[Norm75]

I'm not an expert in aerodynamics, but I would guess the windscreen affects more the top speed and acceleration, whereas the rear wing affects cornering speed, and I think the latter is more important in rallying.

Possibly, but wing surely has to be more of an effect in high speed cornering rather than low speed, where lack of screen will also be a factor.
It would be like running with a plastic bag held behind you, you can see the effect wind has on the carrier bag causing drag, would be the same as a car with no windscreen.

[MartijnS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEKl-6TWkAAP_0Y?format=jpg&name=small
Stage 3.

[AnttiL]

For sure the roughest stage of the rally, but only parts of it are like that.

[KKS]

Cake isn't nice equipment for recce ))

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEIAuiLVUAElR0r?format=jpg

[AnttiL]

I keep seeing the gear shift as a beer bottle with a red cap. Maybe I just need a beer. :D

[AnttiL]

https://www.yr.no/place/Turkey/Mu%C4%9Fla/Marmaris/long.html

Some rain for Friday...

[EstWRC]

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[KiwiWRCfan]

I keep seeing the gear shift as a beer bottle with a red cap. Maybe I just need a beer. :D

Must be time to head over to the Bar Talk thread then

[AnttiL]

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https://scontent-hel2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/69735065_1302936339861878_4754801269397258240_o.jp g?_nc_cat=111&_nc_eui2=AeFEnIM-WQf-6e55KbEML-NzdfCSnS6KLWuzf68gW68e9FiCT8Weom-7a1f7m2Yst0MCN5_qNi5vp_CdsxXufNLuG65a8Qf__YgIRABoH stfmw&_nc_oc=AQm6okz4ecVKgLUiaYeUfFgeoXQEDT1pMCdaWzAk8qf 4Mp-XZaWuMr1u2S76eaVKzWDGrt_jmYA29LZ74w5RZO3j&_nc_ht=scontent-hel2-1.xx&oh=dbc61c35bfa4f3072a388509f921278c&oe=5E033CF3

These two pictures describe well the difference of surfaces in this rally. Most of it is still relatively smooth although usually technical. Only some parts are very rocky and rough.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Another pic of the new Toyota wing here:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEL16x1W4AE1atH?format=jpg&name=900x900

[EstWRC]

Another pic of the new Toyota wing here:

https://twitter.com/metinphuket/status/1171728743104221184

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EELREWIXoAUm-w1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The 2017 rear wing in use to date:

https://s31.wheelsage.org/format/picture/picture-gallery/t/toyota/yaris_wrc/toyota_yaris_wrc_53.jpg

"Toyota builds massive wing and attaches Yaris WRC to it". :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

C3 wing changed ?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEL2A9sXoAACOWX?format=jpg&name=medium3

[EstWRC]

Another pic of the new Toyota wing here:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEL16x1W4AE1atH?format=jpg&name=900x900

It looks so tiny now compared to the old one.

[Rallyper]

Don´t forget doing your Pickems for Turkey. About 24h to go, then thread will close...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WRC Wings
First images from @rallyturkey confirms that Toyota has installed a new rear wing in the Yaris WRC. This is our review, based on pictures by @metinphuket and @ChristianWRC1 》 https://t.co/nTj6G4P0g5

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEMKQzrXkAEWgrm?format=jpg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEMRicrXoAEP2eF?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[EstWRC]

Finally good pics...

https://scontent.fhen1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/69932149_10157763247239973_6642173730787164160_o.j pg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_oc=AQkZkTxKpf2JKdgoq3JBpEM83Kt5AsDKlwm9eoKY8G0 vSBhXCwX63jmOIaT-aGENJoY&_nc_ht=scontent.fhen1-1.fna&oh=7a36a1e9a2176c13dff47d7f6aa80ee1&oe=5E3D688A
https://scontent.fhen1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/70177826_10157763247114973_5886257772999213056_o.j pg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_oc=AQleEl7ET3M7I6-v4vvxZqgrkU1NJkPWHwJXIC8DMIIMb5Hv2aDQLuYZs6vJa0K6N CA&_nc_ht=scontent.fhen1-1.fna&oh=4647b4955bb049ecedf67e610b9fd637&oe=5DF0DFFF
https://scontent.fhen1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/69842340_10157763247084973_1030780683477319680_o.j pg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_oc=AQmKHCaWrWp-9yuZvafW_ZeBHjw-vX33t_a-22nhB-v20xROAE8UfqNHXz2AFg44ICI&_nc_ht=scontent.fhen1-1.fna&oh=266e4d897948d0c1ed2ce25657fb575d&oe=5DF54C2F
https://scontent.fhen1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/70410377_10157763246914973_5084055042856583168_o.j pg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_oc=AQlTaAzoCzppbP7r85yBAUySjWuUACg9M1_AUkm25QQ kOS49Jpu0b8tapEDOjyh1SO0&_nc_ht=scontent.fhen1-1.fna&oh=13ad399e412dc67b4f3686eac61a22ee&oe=5DF7D4D0
https://scontent.fhen1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/69804245_10157763246944973_2524921096185053184_o.j pg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_oc=AQnpOmckBvIKcy5tKYawilHy7FfpFqyd3PUEZzYiUeS GWet3k3g2nddglM49m1hU6gs&_nc_ht=scontent.fhen1-1.fna&oh=8ae07a5cdaaf38a1326243cbafecfc80&oe=5DF5D2DD

https://www.facebook.com/rallyemag/photos/pcb.10157763248524973/10157763246929973/?type=3&theater

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Toyota makes pre-Turkey WRC changes to remove rough-surface weakness:
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/145926/toyota-makes-changes-to-eliminate-turkey-weakness

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M.Wilson interviewed re Rally Turkey states they had private test in the South of France which went well:
https://www.talkativebroadcasting.co.uk/2019/09/m-sport/malcolm-wilson-rally-turkey/

[Jarek Z]

Ford Turkey is ready for the rally:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B2RD7eMDFfH/

[AnttiL]

Toyota makes pre-Turkey WRC changes to remove rough-surface weakness:
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/145926/toyota-makes-changes-to-eliminate-turkey-weakness

Tom Fowler says they've made suspension parts lighter in order to reduce mass from each corner of the car. And this was tested by Hänninen in Sardegna.

EDIT: Wasn't paywall after all.

[pantealex]

http://www.rallyturkey.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/0.-Updated-Entry-List.pdf

only 28 drivers left...

let´s see how many will start after shakedown...

[mknight]

Tom Fowler says they've made suspension parts lighter in order to reduce mass from each corner of the car. And this was tested by Hänninen in Sardegna.

EDIT: Wasn't paywall after all.

Written like that the explanation does sound counter-intuitive. Preparing for rough rally by making suspension lighter..... then again those changes are meant for increasing grip.

[er88]

Sounds like the engineers were maybe a tiny little bit sceptical but all 3 drivers unanimously chose these improvements to be implemented for increased performance. Must have been reliable on the test as well (plus in Sardinia with Juho), but whether that holds true in the rally will remain to be seen.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EENUmzoWsAAGl4U?format=jpg&name=medium

[AnttiL]

Shakedown stream started on WRC+

and facebook https://www.facebook.com/pg/WorldRally/videos/

[EstWRC]

Tänak asked Martin in the end if the rear hatch was open.

[AnttiL]

What's up with Neuville's time?

[AnttiL]

Suninen saying he's with hard tyres and everyone else probably with mediums, saving the hards...

[EstWRC]

Sordo already hit a stone and a little damage

[AnttiL]

Lappi with a tyre off the rim and he instantly lost his confidence

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Catching up with the SD live stream, it was good to hear Gus Greensmith so happy with the Mk2 Fiesta R5 and see him faster than Rovanpera.

[AnttiL]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEQdB2HXsAAEWrL?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEQZhqeWkAAD4Px?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEQY-lyXUAAd1Ub?format=jpg&name=small

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEQbgqeXkAMrGXO?format=jpg&name=medium

[dimviii]

Rallirinki / Teemu
@HartusvuoriWRC
·

Jari-Matti Latvala saying the rear wing regulation was changed so that now the 30 mm overhang will be measured from the car's road car equivalent, not from the rear bumper of World Rally Car.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEQbgqeXkAMrGXO?format=jpg&name=medium

What a rally to choose to drive your beautiful new car... :disturb:

[er88]

Apart from that vague Suninen comment, do we know what drivers took the medium's/hards?

[rallyfiend]

What a rally to choose to drive your beautiful new car... :disturb:

It's OK, it's a rental....

[PLuto]

Start list is ready - https://rally-base.com/2019/rally-turkey-2019/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=1076

[meh]

Last year 10th place (Ogier) lost to first (Tänak) 20min+. For Tänak-Neuville-Ogier only disaster is retirement (without Rally2). Otherwise they probably are on good points anyway. Team-mates sacrificed, if needed.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://scontent.flhr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/70624065_1307134192791254_7841995208819474432_o.jp g?_nc_cat=111&_nc_oc=AQl-j5VbKB4y2zjfXjon_x1U8DJhPHKy81rCnV4SPwvZs2kkRxz_sG z__mhYTWLyjjg&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr3-1.fna&oh=48645d5b445940069cab16a410b2f354&oe=5DF68F97

https://scontent.flhr3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/70867697_1307134299457910_2679687446672703488_o.jp g?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQkDAN2XsYnrPxbLvzOdlaPXjsQ05teLmCdvMV5Wgzu dAVPgxFH4pzCyjkMWr4GJk5M&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr3-2.fna&oh=e8c15d21fcb7dd41a203b29d2de1d751&oe=5E0031D5

https://scontent.flhr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/71047496_1307133359458004_163603675195899904_o.jpg ?_nc_cat=110&_nc_oc=AQlAl1OWykzKQ8HRBvVvK0GnHtG5KO7AozX1_2DuMuf LcsWDn-oBvmMAaoE4uQExpb4&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr3-1.fna&oh=88e849de440977d1d0b91440b3917f9e&oe=5E093AE7

https://scontent.flhr3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/69793889_1307134476124559_7418740398140424192_o.jp g?_nc_cat=106&_nc_oc=AQlY-l-vFakHNQ_x95AfTwVm0KbGjSQyYswwUoqLzp7La9YNmYubrHmot ATmBAgGHNU&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr3-2.fna&oh=3f6da21d1ffc91b4ab362dff343113f8&oe=5E0424F7

https://www.facebook.com/pg/michelinmotorsport/photos/?business_id=1583329395294810&tab=album&album_id=1307129796125027

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke jumping the Yaris with the new rear wing:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEQbganX4AAtDSU?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEQbZKgXoAE5_uu?format=jpg&name=large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tyres end like this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EERAY0wXsAAXCz5?format=jpg&name=large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SD Videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=RioLEk164gQ

https://youtu.be/4KkejI42_CM

[AnttiL]

Tyres end like this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EERAY0wXsAAXCz5?format=jpg&name=large

Maybe these tyres were deliberately worn for tonight's super special? Hard to imagine they would look this bad after 14 km of rallying.

[EstWRC]

Järveoja sayin the shakedown road is actually one of the worst on this rally, and tomorrow the longest stage is the worst, at least last year it was, the organizers have tried to repair them but he doesnt know if its enough. He also mentions the lottery factory by sayin that if you come from a blind corner or crest and theres a stone on the road you just simply cant ignore it.

[EstWRC]

Mikkelsen

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EERJJVqW4AADBrd?format=jpg&name=medium

[AnttiL]

Järveoja sayin the shakedown road is actually one of the worst on this rally, and tomorrow the longest stage is the worst, at least last year it was.

I would confirm this. SS3/6 Cetibeli will have two short bits which are as rocky as the middle section of the shakedown. These are the roughest roads of the whole rally.

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EERJJVqW4AADBrd?format=jpg&name=medium

wow...lucky escape..

[pantealex]

Start list is ready - https://rally-base.com/2019/rally-turkey-2019/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=1076

http://www.rallyturkey.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/5.1-Start-List-for-Section-1-TCO.pdf
Official one :)

http://www.rallyturkey.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/5.2-Start-List-for-Section-2-TC1B.pdf
For Friday

[AnttiL]

Forecasts are still giving rain for tomorrow midday. Possibly already starting during SS4, and ending before SS5 starts, but of course leaving the roads damp.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EERYgWiWwAEJhuJ?format=jpg&name=large

[SubaruNorway]

Mikkelsen nearly rolled 3 times due to the ruts according to parcferme.no

[mknight]

Fun stat while waiting for SSS:

Toyota has highest number of stage wins in every single rally this season. Only in Argentina and Sardinia Hyundai matched the number.
In total it's 91 vs 58.
http://planetemarcus.com/saison-wrc/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Maybe these tyres were deliberately worn for tonight's super special? Hard to imagine they would look this bad after 14 km of rallying.

Yep. Using SD tyres tonight.

[Oops!]

I see there is only one 2wd car starting.... That's not going to be an easy wknd!

[EstWRC]

that was weird from Ott, like on road mode compared to others

[er88]

Ott is turning into a bit of a moody princess thesedays with his persona and stage end comments. Not like he'll care about that, or what others think if he lands a title though...

[AnttiL]

Ott is turning into a bit of a moody princess thesedays with his persona and stage end comments.

He's been the same with all press stuff this week. Starts to be kind of annoying.

[TypeR]

Totally ok from Ott's side.. +3-4secs from SSS is nothing if you think that, friday is more than saturday and sunday together..

[EstWRC]

He's been the same with all press stuff this week. Starts to be kind of annoying.

agreed, he has been like that since Finland IMO, dont know what has happened...for me it seems he is just sick of all the same questions, yesterday two estonian reporters asked exactly the same what Emyr just asked. He doesnt like interviews at all anyway :D

and during Rally Germany some rumours rose that he and Martin dont get along anymore but those are just unconfirmed rumours so far.

[TypeR]

Put yourself in a situation, where you lead the WDC and everybody keep asking same questions over and over again.. You have to keep calm and maybe seem rude or whatever..

[AnttiL]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EESCItWWwAArFR-?format=jpg&name=medium

My reaction to the stage as well.

[rallyfiend]

Put yourself in a situation, where you lead the WDC and everybody keep asking same questions over and over again.. You have to keep calm and maybe seem rude or whatever..

It’s his job and he gets paid millions of euros a year to do it.
If he doesn’t want to respect the role of media in Toyota’s involvement in WRC, he can go back to Estonia and do national events...

[Tarmop]

Well, no...drivers are drivers, not entertainers and PR persons. Dumb questions deserve dumb/straight answers. Be it Tänak, Neuville "i would have won, if...", moody Ogier, or some local quy in his local championship. They can do it, they have the right to do it and it spices things up.


So this really sounds like a problem of modern era snowflakes...

[er88]

With road position advantage etc, does anyone genuinely think we could get one of Mikkelsen, Latvala, Suninen or Lappi winning this?


I have Ogier favourite and it's always hard to look past the top 3, but I stuck a cheeky fiver on Mikkelsen as his odds were pretty decent at 11/1. If the first loop stays dry and it cleans a lot, I'd like to see at least one of those 4 make a push and challenge for victory. Sordo has great road position and car as well, but with him not being here last year I doubt he can fight for victory. Should be yet another interesting rally nonetheless.

[mknight]

Well, no...drivers are drivers, not entertainers and PR persons. Dumb questions deserve dumb/straight answers. Be it Tänak, Neuville "i would have won, if...", moody Ogier, or some local quy in his local championship. They can do it, they have the right to do it and it spices things up.


So this really sounds like a problem of modern area snowflakes...

There was this guy called Bolt, who would run for less than 10 seconds and then spend an hour doing interviews with same questions.

Sure drivers (or any sportsmen for that matter) can pick, but it will affect their popularity among people and among sponsors.

[mknight]

With road position advantage etc, does anyone genuinely think we could get one of Mikkelsen, Latvala, Suninen or Lappi winning this?



Last year it didn't look like road position had so much to say, later drivers had some pretty rough stages. So it's not so easy call as Sardinia. A lot will depend on choosing the "right" speed on friday stages, can't see any clear winning candidates tbh any of those 4 + top 3 could end up on top. Tanak maybe the most likely to play it a bit safe.

[trykmann]

I wish some interviewer could ask something more specific. For example Toyota had to redesign their rear wing for this event. Someone should ask the drivers about their feedback for this design.

Right now we have all the time same questions over and over again. I am not standing up for Tänak right now, but this is just starting to be boring for a me as a rally fan.

[mknight]

I wish some interviewer could ask something more specific. For example Toyota had to redesign their rear wing for this event. Someone should ask the drivers about their feedback for this design.


I find it very interesting how little (close to nothing) there has been about this on official channels, wrc+ and also on autosport. Basically nothing. (Compare the attention that for example Hyundai's small aero change for Finland got).

It totally looks like FIA/Promoter tries to cover the big problem that rules were not the same for everyone for 2,5 years.

[Augury]

That Emyr guy is a nice dude and knows a bit about rallying, but his stage end interviews are often pretty awkard. I feel like Colin and Julian are naturals and get more out of the drivers.

[Jarek Z]

Well, no...drivers are drivers, not entertainers and PR persons. Dumb questions deserve dumb/straight answers. Be it Tänak, Neuville "i would have won, if...", moody Ogier, or some local quy in his local championship. They can do it, they have the right to do it and it spices things up.

So this really sounds like a problem of modern era snowflakes...

Exactly. If Tanak is nervous, irritated, disappointed, annoyed or even pissed, why should he pretend he isn't? It's not North Korea, where everybody has to be happy, is it? ;)

[Tarmop]

There was this guy called Bolt, who would run for less than 10 seconds and then spend an hour doing interviews with same questions.

Sure drivers (or any sportsmen for that matter) can pick, but it will affect their popularity among people and among sponsors.

And Your point is? You can name examples, who do like others like, also hundreds of examples from every area, who are good at what they do, but sometimes or even often rude, racist, and otherwise D-heads but still...popular, wealthy and successful...and don`t care...

[robertr]

Ott is turning into a bit of a moody princess thesedays with his persona and stage end comments. Not like he'll care about that, or what others think if he lands a title though...

What did he say, I didn't had a chance to see it?

[Tarmop]

Nothing imo...he was told that he doesn`t have to win this event, having a comfy lead and he said: "(Why don`t i have to win it?) We will see tomorrow. If you have four events to go, you never know. We have to take what we can from every event."

[Päss1928]

It takes mental strength to remain positive and grateful after you become a top driver who's earning millions. Most people don't have that. The ones who do will have the biggest number of fans. That doesn't mean you have to shut down your personality, it can be shown in a nice way. Take Grönholm for example. I think it was clear a long time ago that Tänak is not one of them.

[Tarmop]

It takes mental strength to remain positive and grateful after you become a top driver who's earning millions. Most people don't have that. The ones who do will have the biggest number of fans. That doesn't mean you have to shut down your personality, it can be shown in a nice way. Take Grönholm for example. I think it was clear a long time ago that Tänak is not one of them.

You mean like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwukCdGKOdY
Or like that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRPqVkGC-4w

Or "You can tell Corrado that three is enough!"


Being honest and emotional, probably caused some grimms in the SP though...

[Jakem]

Cmon girls:). Do not start over thinking. Tanak was most quiet driver years back, answering only "yes" and "no". He is giving his best to "talk" and has changed his personality very much. Even Becks has said that Tanak was hardest guy to take interviews because he did not talk nothing and it changed one day. You need to see Tanaks movie then you understand his personality better.

[Päss1928]

You mean like this?


Yes, I do. He's being loved for comments like these. He's just raging about x circumstances in a funny way, not calling other drivers lucky fuckers.

[Tarmop]

M. Ok then. Though i think PSA and its fans would have disagreed.

And the other thing was actually " lucky bastard", you can look up the synonyms yourself (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lucky_bastard). Not so bad and if you add the fact that he is not a native speaker (+ he was really lucky indeed:D).

But well hey, that is the emotions part, why some people love it, others hate it. There is no right way, as people are different, each have enemies and friends, some more, some less.

[er88]

What did he say, I didn't had a chance to see it?Honestly nothing much. Just came across difficult, or a bit glum/moody. It was more just an observation of a general trend I and others have spotted with Tanak. Not meant as a criticism either, there's more at stake for him now and he's maybe ultra zoned in while focusing for the title (as well as having to deal with all the contract talk). Plus he'll be doing a lot more PR in the lead up to rallies and while on events, so no doubt it gets tiring.

I previously hadn't noticed much myself, except thinking he had a problem with Molly (and her questions). But some of my mates who are more casual followers of rallying and dont watch every rally and every interview, have raised points like "what's happened to Tanak?", or think he's developed an attitude when they see/ hear him now.

And since it's been pointed out to me, I maybe notice it more when he's seemingly being short/ blunt/ condescending with his replies. Also could just be the way he says things in a foreign tongue, as there's a fine line in English where saying the same thing can come across witty and jokey, or make you look like a bit of a twat or like you have a problem with the world.

[Oops!]

Yes, I do. He's being loved for comments like these. He's just raging about x circumstances in a funny way, not calling other drivers lucky fuckers.

Seen a great interview with one of Gronhlom's engineers a few years ago, F X a french fella.i He said Marcus never complained about set up like most drivers when the times weren't good, he'd just say "Ok I must drive harder".

[meh]

I first read your comments here and now checked the interview and expected some proper not-in-mood-misbehaving... but what are you talking about? I'm blind or there wasn't any mood there. Calm answer for a-bit-provocative question. Maybe some of you guys need to check your own mood :)

[PLuto]

I see there is only one 2wd car starting.... That's not going to be an easy wknd!

And he made is even more difficult with early arrival to TC 1...

[Oops!]

Bad start! And running last on the road

[Oops!]

You mean like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwukCdGKOdY
Or like that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRPqVkGC-4w

Or "You can tell Corrado that three is enough!"


Being honest and emotional, probably caused some grimms in the SP though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af5uVexJ7U0 Another classic.....

[flykas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af5uVexJ7U0 Another classic.....


Well I definitely prefer natural and honest drivers, not actors.

[dimviii]

Good morning guys!!!

Fri 08:00 - Start intervals
Four-minute gaps between our WRC runners today.

[EstWRC]

Good morning guys! Big day ahead today, Michelins is so late with their info this year.

E: lol classic interview with Adamo again

[AnttiL]

Good morning guys! Big day ahead today, Michelins is so late with their info this year.

SS2 is close to service park, some drivers still choosing.

Rain could start today even a a bit earlier, at 10 AM

[AnttiL]

So, remember, this stage has smooth gravel, rough gravel and tarmac. Fast and slow parts.

This new beginning looks smooth but slippery.

[er88]

Hopefully tyre news not far away. Stage underway, here we go...

[Rallyper]

Good morning, rally lovers! Here we go. Some exciting hours ahead.

[AnttiL]

The second road seemed smoother last year

[AnttiL]

Neuville 4.9 down at first split. That's big loss.

[Rallyper]

Very much hanging dust in places...

[er88]

Worry for Thierry that split.

[stefanvv]

Well well, Yaris ain't slow this year

[EstWRC]

Neuville 4.9 down at first split. That's big loss.

he overshoot a junction but that cost him max 2 secs only

[doubled1978]

Looked like Tanak was pushing very hard from the start looking at the heli footage...

[raybak]

Dust hanging a bit. 4 minute gaps so no dust gapping needed yet.

Enjoying my first Rally Turkey, missed last year as was having my 3 month sleep in hospital.

Ray

[EstWRC]

Looked like Tanak was pushing very hard from the start looking at the heli footage...

agreed, he was mega agressive the first kilometres and then suddenly went smooth

[er88]

Meeke fast...

[er88]

Great first stage by Ott. Pressure? What pressure

[Rallyper]

Meeke fast...

He use to be... in the beginning of rallies.

[EstWRC]

man those rocks lying all over the road from Meekes onboard!

[Rallyper]

Swedish flags at 12 min...

[TypeR]

#Tyre info - Day 1 Morning

Ogier: 3 MICHELIN LTX Force H4 +3M6
Lappi/Tidemand/Suninen/Sordo/Latvala: 6H4
Tanak: 2H4 +3M6
Meeke/Neuville/Mikkelsen: 4H4 +2M6

[er88]

Tanak only driver to only take one spare

[stefanvv]

Only Tanak takes 5 tyres, but he can afford it more than the other on cleaner road

[Rallyper]

Tanak only driver to only take one spare

He don´t need to gamble...?

[stefanvv]

Go Teemu!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yes go Teemu !!

[er88]

Meeke with a puncture warning light with 15k to go. Seems fine though

[er88]

Great time Mikkelsen!! Jari and Suninen coming fast as well

[Rallyper]

Sordo some sort of problem?

[AnttiL]

Remember that in this rally it's not so much about fast split times or single stage times

[Rallyper]

Mr Latvala flying!!

[er88]

Great drive Jari. Let's hope he can keep it going

[Rallyper]

Tidemand... nooo. What is happening?

[EstWRC]

Rain at the end of next stage ?

[stefanvv]

Rain at the end of next stage ?

SS4 I think they said

[AnttiL]

Tidemand... nooo. What is happening?

Getting through and gaining experience?

[er88]

Cleaning pretty big on that stage.

[AnttiL]

SS4 I think they said

I think for both!

[Rallyper]

Tidemand... nooo. What is happening?

Way too slow....

(I´ll give you the answer myself...) EDIT: Right rear puncture.

[Allez Andruet]

1-2-3! And only 15 stages to go - this one's almost in the bag!

[AnttiL]

Puncture for Tidemand

[stefanvv]

ouch Rovanpera

[Rallyper]

Getting through and gaining experience?

Well, there was an explanation. And Kalle also getting some interesting experience, I just saw.

[er88]

Kalle crashing again. Back moving though

[AnttiL]

Well, there was an explanation. And Kalle also getting some interesting experience, I just saw.

I stand corrected :)

And shame for Kalle

[aykutbilir]

This will be survival event for sure :) Last standing can win :)

Too bad I am few hundreds kn away and cannot watch live!


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[er88]

Bit wild from Ott there. Hopefully no puncture.

[EstWRC]

Bit wild from Ott there. Hopefully no puncture.


yeah noticed the same, the bump there lifted him and right into the rocks

[bandit12]

...and during Rally Germany some rumours rose that he and Martin dont get along anymore but those are just unconfirmed rumours so far.

Can you tell us more about that?

[EstWRC]

Can you tell us more about that?

like i said just rumors from estonian forum, nothing serious.

[Rallyper]

Freezed or black at you? WRC+ not working here...

[AnttiL]

Freezed or black at you? WRC+ not working here...

Same same

[Got Mail]

Freezed or black at you? WRC+ not working here...

Same

[AnttiL]

Neuville 3.4 down at split 2. Not going well for him or taking very cautiously

[er88]

Meeke with a slow first split.

[Got Mail]

Back now live

[Rallyper]

Now live again.

[EstWRC]

Ogier flying

[stefanvv]

Ogier begins to drive

[er88]

Here comes the Ogier train. Its flying

[EstWRC]

What tyres Ogier was on ?

[stefanvv]

What tyres Ogier was on ?

3x3

[TypeR]

massive difference between Ogier and Neuville

[stefanvv]

Go Teemu

[EstWRC]

wow MIkkelsen in third split

[er88]

Thierrys jaw is going to hit the floor when he sees Ogier time

[denkimi]

Weird to see neuville so slow.

[TypeR]

,,I have no glue!''
https://www.upload.ee/image/10474910/Untitled.jpg

[EstWRC]

Tänak lost a lot in third split, otherwise good pace