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krissucool
10th May 2019, 15:13
Imagine Tänak beating Neuville for the rally by less than 6 secs now. What a clownshow.
I wonder if/when Toyota will stop throwing money on Katsuta, since his rally Sweden win 2018 he`s basically shown nothing, here 1min behind RC 2 fastest after 2 ss and 40s after a more or less similar Fiesta
AnttiL
10th May 2019, 15:18
I wonder if/when Toyota will stop throwing money on Katsuta, since his rally Sweden win 2018 he`s basically shown nothing, here 1min behind RC 2 fastest after 2 ss and 40s after a more or less similar Fiesta
I've been wondering the same. And I also if Greensmith will still drive the WRC car in Portugal and how slow will he be
Gevin
10th May 2019, 15:21
So that means for Tänak at least one stage win for 28. events in row :)
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 15:22
delayed this one too because of spectators
mousti
10th May 2019, 15:22
I think Hyundai Will appeal this..
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It'll be interesting to see what Thierry does in the afternoon re run.
Ofcourse the stage will already be cut up, but he might have lost even more than 6s....
dimviii
10th May 2019, 15:27
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/143288/rally-chile-incident-hospitalises-officer
AnttiL
10th May 2019, 15:29
Some pretty wide slides from both Tänak and Ogier. It must be slippery.
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 15:31
Tänak literally skating
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 15:34
its getting worse again for later starters
Gevin
10th May 2019, 15:35
First gravel event what gets worse for later starters on dry contition :D
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 15:35
or is it Neuvilles fresher tyres now ?
Gevin
10th May 2019, 15:36
Yeah, it means also alot for him. Fastest SPL2
Neuville having a lot of luck this year, or maybe I'm wrong. Just seems that way a bit
Gevin
10th May 2019, 15:37
Meeke is just off the pace, SPL2 +7,2s to Neuville :(
AnttiL
10th May 2019, 15:37
First gravel event what gets worse for later starters on dry contition :D
It's not really dry as it's damp in the autumn weather and it rained yesterday. It's the same effect as in Wales.
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 15:37
Ogier already +5.7 in third split
Neuville will great an awesomeitme here
Tauri_J
10th May 2019, 15:38
First gravel event what gets worse for later starters on dry contition :D
its not dry though
AnttiL
10th May 2019, 15:38
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6NtdHJUYAAbeD2.jpg
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 15:38
and now Ogier has brought it back by 1.4 secw with just couple of kilometres
Gevin
10th May 2019, 15:40
I bet Neuville will protest about that SS2 +6,6s time.
AnttiL
10th May 2019, 15:41
Latvala fastest on split 1! Go!
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 15:42
TOP3 are really running away from others
stefanvv
10th May 2019, 15:44
Tell them Tanak
Tanak lol, " all the shadows and suns"
steve.mandzij
10th May 2019, 15:46
Latvala fastest on split 1! Go!Hasn't happened in a while :)
racerx1979
10th May 2019, 15:48
Hope Latvala holds it together... Usually he bins it when he is setting.fast splits early on...
stefanvv
10th May 2019, 15:48
Let's hope he doesn't bin it.
AnttiL
10th May 2019, 15:49
There's been a lot of bad talk about Mikkelsen whereas often he has been leading rallies when facing issues. But in here he's just slow, and I'm talking about Lappi-Suninen slow.
AnttiL
10th May 2019, 15:50
Hope Latvala holds it together... Usually he bins it when he is setting.fast splits early on...
Well this happened in Corsica 2018 but...now he's faster than Tänak in the last split
Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2019, 15:51
Great job Latvala !
racerx1979
10th May 2019, 15:51
I like it! Go Latvala!
Well in Jari!! Good to see
Gevin
10th May 2019, 15:53
And now FIVE HOUR break? Oh my.
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 15:53
i just cant believe the numbers im seeing behind the name Lappi
what a promising show in 2017 and what has happened after that?
such a shame
Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2019, 15:55
Old guys experience showing big-time here.
racerx1979
10th May 2019, 15:57
Lappi probably regretting leaving Toyota ...
AnttiL
10th May 2019, 15:58
Lappi probably regretting leaving Toyota ...
Remember how he struggled in Wales in the Toyota?
They didn't exactly make him feel wanted if you read between the lines...
But now I wonder how much he likes working under the French and Budar...
racerx1979
10th May 2019, 15:59
And now FIVE HOUR break? Oh my.
4 hrs not 5
Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2019, 15:59
Meeke flying
https://twitter.com/victorlopez_wrc/status/1126870201801347073
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 16:00
Remember how he struggled in Wales in the Toyota?
its not only about this rally.
i like the guy a lot and was blown away by his half season in 2017. But he hasnt had this another step after that. Okay its still only his second full season and i really hope he comes out of this.
racerx1979
10th May 2019, 16:00
True he did struggle in Wales... Let's hope he learns the car and does well in his home rally
AnttiL
10th May 2019, 16:00
And now FIVE HOUR break? Oh my.
It's a long liaison from the morning stages to the service. Originally it was planned to be repeated with only a remote tyre change but instead they opted to add the service visit and drop the repeat of SS1.
its not only about this rally.
i like the guy a lot and was blown away by his half season in 2017. But he hasnt had this another step after that. Okay its still only his second full season and i really hope he comes out of this.Still time for him at least. Remember Tanak and Neuville's struggles until they found the sweet spot
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 16:02
DINNER TIME, im going to have sushi and some beers. What do you guys will have ?
https://scontent-arn2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/59972659_10156396156225678_5822098967416012800_o.j pg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-2.xx&oh=a4401270286f24fa25e7d36f9631fd55&oe=5D757A69
AnttiL
10th May 2019, 16:04
its not only about this rally.
i like the guy a lot and was blown away by his half season in 2017. But he hasnt had this another step after that. Okay its still only his second full season and i really hope he comes out of this.
After being flamboyant in Sardegna and Finland 2017 he was completely out of pace in Germany, Catalunya and Wales. After that we saw flashes of his mojo in Monte, Sweden and Corsica, plagued by mistakes but afterwards the pace has been mostly gone.
AnttiL
10th May 2019, 16:04
DINNER TIME, im going to have sushi and some beers. What do you guys will have ?
Spaghetti. And some beers.
Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2019, 16:05
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6NzZe7WwAA_iVg.jpg
Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2019, 16:07
DINNER TIME, im going to have sushi and some beers. What do you guys will have ?
Lemon sole, new potatoes & tender-stem broccoli.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6NyrEaW4AA84_4.jpg:large
AnttiL
10th May 2019, 16:09
Østberg was only 5.5 seconds slower than Lappi
racerx1979
10th May 2019, 16:11
DINNER TIME, im going to have sushi and some beers. What do you guys will have ?
https://scontent-arn2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/59972659_10156396156225678_5822098967416012800_o.j pg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-2.xx&oh=a4401270286f24fa25e7d36f9631fd55&oe=5D757A69
Visiting Czech republic so I'll have a beer and Goulash followed by a nice 14 yr old scotch while watching the second half.
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Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2019, 16:13
What the hell !?
https://twitter.com/PeAChapaRacing/status/1126566661954338816
AnttiL
10th May 2019, 16:16
What the hell !?
https://twitter.com/PeAChapaRacing/status/1126566661954338816
This was the shakedown. I reported it earlier and someone else just a couple of pages ago.
mknight
10th May 2019, 16:34
Scratching my head on the time Neuville got on SS2, only openly available info is from first split when he was right between Ogier and Tanak...and they give him time slower than both based on what?
wrc2017
10th May 2019, 16:35
Scratching my head on the time Neuville got on SS2, only openly available info is from first split when he was right between Ogier and Tanak...and they give him time slower than both based on what?
Because they knew he'd have an advantage on the next stage.
steve.mandzij
10th May 2019, 16:37
After being flamboyant in Sardegna and Finland 2017 he was completely out of pace in Germany, Catalunya and Wales. After that we saw flashes of his mojo in Monte, Sweden and Corsica, plagued by mistakes but afterwards the pace has been mostly gone.Reminds me of Paddon after Argentina 16', I hope he doesn't go that way too.
I can't remember the exact details of the whole situation but how did Neuville manage to rise from his massive slump once upon a time?
Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2019, 16:39
I miss NOT... not !
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6N35IYW4AA7U_k.jpg:large
Mirek
10th May 2019, 16:41
Visiting Czech republic so I'll have a beer and Goulash followed by a nice 14 yr old scotch while watching the second half.
...
If You don't like ice hockey take care to avoid pubs with a TV screen (the world championship started today) :D
steve.mandzij
10th May 2019, 16:41
I miss NOT... not !
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6N35IYW4AA7U_k.jpg:largeI'm not one to agree but that one is worthy of ridicule.
AnttiL
10th May 2019, 16:48
Visiting Czech republic so I'll have a beer and Goulash followed by a nice 14 yr old scotch while watching the second half.
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Make sure you get the timing right...stay clear-headed for SS4 and SS5 but for SS6 you'll need the scotch working
AnttiL
10th May 2019, 16:51
Scratching my head on the time Neuville got on SS2, only openly available info is from first split when he was right between Ogier and Tanak...and they give him time slower than both based on what?
It was based on his SS1 performance, and the time could be readjusted after they see how he performs on the second run.
AnttiL
10th May 2019, 16:55
SS1 onboard is available on WRC+ if you have trouble spending the time before the afternoon loop
Tarmop
10th May 2019, 16:56
He was slower than Ogier in Split 1, by 1.1 seconds, which btw was the fastest split of all, but faster than Tänak at that point. In the End Tänak was faster than Ogier. So "losing" 1.1 seconds per split (x6) is quite logical. +6.6 to the stage winner on a 30km SS is fair also imho, when one didn`t drive most of it at full pace/risk/wear.
mknight
10th May 2019, 17:00
It was based on his SS1 performance, and the time could be readjusted after they see how he performs on the second run.
In SS1 Neuville was 0.06 s/km slower than Ogier and 0.04 than Tanak. The time he got in SS2 is 0.21 s/km slower than Tanak and 0.1 s/km than Ogier.
Doesn't quite match to me.
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My point here is simply to find out what they based the time on, as this is not penalty and not the drivers fault in any way. As Neuville just mentioned he dropped 0.7s to Tanak in SS1 and took 0.7s in SS3 and then they give him 6s extra when he was ahead of him on the split
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He was slower than Ogier in Split 1, by 1.1 seconds, which btw was the fastest split of all, but faster than Tänak at that point. In the End Tänak was faster than Ogier. So "losing" 1.1 seconds per split (x6) is quite logical. +6.6 to the stage winner on a 30km SS is fair also imho, when one didn`t drive most of it at full pace/risk/wear.
That's the fist explanation which has at least some reason in it, but still seems rather random in relation to what I wrote above.
Tarmop
10th May 2019, 17:05
In SS1, both Ogier and Tänak made a costly mistake, still they were faster in the end and well, like you said, this should not be a penalty and is not Neuville`s fault, but it is also his gain that he could go easier, saving his equipment and having more rubber left for SS3. So like i said imho it is fair, that those who did a clean flatout 30km SS are faster 6.6 seconds, whereas all the others were min. 2,5x slower than Neuville`s given time... especially on a stage, where top 10 was separated by 43,4 seconds.
E: If you look at SS1 splits from Ogier and Tänak, due to their incidents, at one point they were behind Neuville 4.7 and 2.6 seconds, in the end they were ahead of Neuville by 1 and 0.7 seconds, so they could`ve been faster than him 5.4 and 3.6 seconds. So on SS2, 10 seconds slower time would also make sense...
racerx1979
10th May 2019, 17:07
If You don't like ice hockey take care to avoid pubs with a TV screen (the world championship started today) :D
Luckily I'm in Brno and not Prague. Always a place here to stay away from tourists :). Beer here is amazing and I don't drink beer...
It has been interesting to hear driver comments in the end of stages vs. media zone from psychological point of view, since in the end of the stages most of drivers complained only grip & notes, but in the media zone more drivers has commented visibility issues as well. It might be that some drivers feel more embarrassing to say they were slow because they can't see well, instead of blaming just grip level. Surely visibility is issue for all drivers, but it would be nice to know some comparison of WRC driver eyesights in this type of direct sun / shadow condition or at night.
Tarmop
10th May 2019, 17:30
Probably...not. You are a top rally driver, driving in the top class and you say that you can`t go as fast as you colleauge because it is slippery...well, it is also for the others!. Whereas, a physical thing, and a physical thing not to be embarrased about and nothing you can do about should be "shameful"? Probably just having their minds full of this new challenge and experience and what disturbs whom more...or bursts into head.
Tanak mentioned being bothered by the number of Chilean Suns after one of the stages :D
In fact I think a few drivers complained about visibility, but straight after the stages drivers will mention the most obvious factor - which would've been the feeling of lack of grip.
Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2019, 17:54
The low sun and shadows were the same for everyone so no excuse there.
Allez Andruet
10th May 2019, 17:57
After being flamboyant in Sardegna and Finland 2017 he was completely out of pace in Germany, Catalunya and Wales.
Yep. And that to me serves as a proof that it's more mental than anything else. If we look at Lappi's WRC learning curve, the fabulous victory in Finland 2017 is the turning point. Sort of, atleast. Seems like the underdog role just suited him better and he's yet to cope with the pressure and expectations WRC winner has to. I sincerely hope he finds a second wind sooner than later.
dimviii
10th May 2019, 18:02
what did he said,that some they misunderstood?
Esapekka Lappi Rally
@EsapekkaLappi
I feel sorry about the misunderstanding there’s around things I’ve said. I didn’t meant to hurt anyone, neither Chileans, Argentinians nor Mexicans. I am thankful for the warm welcome we received in Latin America. We’re proud to be here and share our passion for rally.
mknight
10th May 2019, 18:10
So the explanation for Neuville's time on SS2 is even simpler.
It's the exactly same loss per km to the stage winner as he had on SS1.
stefanvv
10th May 2019, 18:48
So the explanation for Neuville's time on SS2 is even simpler.
It's the exactly same loss per km to the stage winner as he had on SS1.
They should've multiplied that by 1.5-2 considering the fresh tyres advantage he had on the next stage.
He and the team should be happy about that notional time.
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 19:04
More
#Tyre info - Day 1 afternoon
All the Michelin @OfficialWRC drivers with 5 MICHELIN LTX Force Medium (M6)
AnttiL
10th May 2019, 19:10
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#Tyre info - Day 1 afternoon
All the Michelin @OfficialWRC drivers with 5 MICHELIN LTX Force Medium (M6)
What did I say earlier about less tyre tactics this season...
Gevin
10th May 2019, 19:18
https://twitter.com/CarlosEbel/status/1126921126733651969
stefanvv
10th May 2019, 19:30
More
#Tyre info - Day 1 afternoon
All the Michelin @OfficialWRC drivers with 5 MICHELIN LTX Force Medium (M6)
It's time for some punctures. The morning loop went smoothly.
Gevin
10th May 2019, 19:34
It's time for some punctures. The morning loop went smoothly.
Shh! Dont talk about punctures, Im Toyota fan over here.
wrc2017
10th May 2019, 19:56
The low sun and shadows were the same for everyone so no excuse there.
Sun doesnt always shine.
wrc2017
10th May 2019, 19:57
what did he said,that some they misunderstood?
Esapekka Lappi Rally
@EsapekkaLappi
I feel sorry about the misunderstanding there’s around things I’ve said. I didn’t meant to hurt anyone, neither Chileans, Argentinians nor Mexicans. I am thankful for the warm welcome we received in Latin America. We’re proud to be here and share our passion for rally.
Sounds like he insulted South America in general..
wrc2017
10th May 2019, 19:59
Tanak mentioned being bothered by the number of Chilean Suns after one of the stages :D
In fact I think a few drivers complained about visibility, but straight after the stages drivers will mention the most obvious factor - which would've been the feeling of lack of grip.
If it's like GB.. and wet.. the hard base polishes up.. making it slippy. I think its just no one knew what to expect
stefanvv
10th May 2019, 19:59
Shh! Dont talk about punctures, Im Toyota fan over here.
You must be new.
TypeR
10th May 2019, 20:00
3min gaps now
Gevin
10th May 2019, 20:02
Now intresting part, what Neuville does on 30km stage what he didnt drive last time
mknight
10th May 2019, 20:04
Now intresting part, what Neuville does on 30km stage what he didnt drive last time
Yeah since he didn't get to drive it at speed and correct pace notes he should be given 20s faster time in SS2 to compensate.
(following the logic of some previous posts)
AnttiL
10th May 2019, 20:06
what did he said,that some they misunderstood?
Esapekka Lappi Rally
@EsapekkaLappi
I feel sorry about the misunderstanding there’s around things I’ve said. I didn’t meant to hurt anyone, neither Chileans, Argentinians nor Mexicans. I am thankful for the warm welcome we received in Latin America. We’re proud to be here and share our passion for rally.
https://twitter.com/biobio/status/1126522965682806785
Rallyper
10th May 2019, 20:13
It's time for some punctures. The morning loop went smoothly.
Rally Chile has other type of stages. No necessary so much risks of punctures here, as it looks.
stefanvv
10th May 2019, 20:13
lol, we have a twin 1st split
stefanvv
10th May 2019, 20:14
Rally Chile has other type of stages. No necessary so much risks of punctures here, as it looks.
I'm messing around old man
AnttiL
10th May 2019, 20:15
Ogier is still faster at split 2 by 1.7s
Tänak again not matching Ogier and Neuville at the first split
Mk2 RS2000
10th May 2019, 20:15
It does in our country
racerx1979
10th May 2019, 20:16
Worst rally for the Choppa! Too many trees
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 20:16
again Ogier is amazing on this very fast finnish like first part
dimviii
10th May 2019, 20:16
lets see if Neuvilles time given at stage 2,will change after this pass
Gevin
10th May 2019, 20:17
SPL2 Tänak -1,3s
Gevin
10th May 2019, 20:18
lets see if Neuvilles time given at stage 2,will change after this pass
Hes 1st split is already 1,5s faster
stefanvv
10th May 2019, 20:18
So Ogier has the same advantage they gave to Neuville for just half the stage.
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 20:19
Tänak already 5.2 up on Neuville about half the stage
AnttiL
10th May 2019, 20:21
Neuville will lose quite lot on this stage
Gevin
10th May 2019, 20:22
+7s Neuville SPL4 to Tänak
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 20:23
its cleaning now, Evans also coming fast
lets see Latvala
dimviii
10th May 2019, 20:24
Meeke just 0,7 from Ogier at split 3
Tanak flying
Allez Andruet
10th May 2019, 20:24
Come on JML, it's now or never!
stefanvv
10th May 2019, 20:25
Evans must have found something in the service, gogogo
Gevin
10th May 2019, 20:25
Tänak SPL5 -5s and Neu +9 already :)
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 20:26
Ott again making the difference after split 3
USER47
10th May 2019, 20:27
I guess Neuville should probably not be disputing that notional time anymore.:-D
Rallyper
10th May 2019, 20:27
So, what´s wrong with Mikkelsen...?
Gevin
10th May 2019, 20:28
So, what´s wrong with Mikkelsen...?
Inside his head.
dimviii
10th May 2019, 20:28
Neuville 7 sec faster from winning time at 1st loop.Definetely dried.
Gevin
10th May 2019, 20:29
SPL2 Latvala +0,7s to Tänak. Coming fine.
Gevin
10th May 2019, 20:32
Tänak SPL7 -10,7s to Ogier :eek: Neu +16,8s
stefanvv
10th May 2019, 20:33
Arghhh, Evans lost some time
dimviii
10th May 2019, 20:35
Tanak -24 sec from morning pass
Allez Andruet
10th May 2019, 20:36
Geez All Live, this like trying to listen a Manics concert in 2001 with RealPlayer.
AnttiL
10th May 2019, 20:36
Tanak -24 sec from morning pass
Quite amazing run, signature Tänak
AnttiL
10th May 2019, 20:37
Loeb has same first two splits as Latvala
Allez Andruet
10th May 2019, 20:37
When in this form, Tänak is untouchable. Hands down, amazing stuff.
Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2019, 20:38
Evans now slower..
Ends 0.1s faster !
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 20:38
what the hell Evans, lost the same amount with one split than with the rest of the stage
Gevin
10th May 2019, 20:42
Poor Mikkelsen :rolleyes: no speed at all...
Allez Andruet
10th May 2019, 20:42
Did that one rock really shock Mikkelsen this badly?
Mikkelsen, Suninen and Lappi are having a shitshow battle. Not going their way at all unfortunately
racerx1979
10th May 2019, 20:43
So does this mean Andreas is not doing Finland? He's mentioned a few times the roads are reminiscent of Finland when asked about his lack of pace
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 20:43
Loeb is coming very nicely, only +4.5 in split 5
Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2019, 20:43
Loeb is on pace now at the start.
Allez Andruet
10th May 2019, 20:45
What will happen when JML sees Tänak's time at the end of the stage?
Gevin
10th May 2019, 20:46
JML was happy at the end :)
TypeR
10th May 2019, 20:47
good guy Latvala, passed Neuville overall
Gevin
10th May 2019, 20:48
Loeb coming nicely, SPl6 +5,9s
Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2019, 20:48
Close battles for 3rd & 5th and also decide road positions for tomorrow.
Gevin
10th May 2019, 20:50
4 stages driven and Mikkelsen & Lappi already +2min with minimal mistakes
Mk2 RS2000
10th May 2019, 20:50
So does this mean Andreas is not doing Finland? He's mentioned a few times the roads are reminiscent of Finland when asked about his lack of pace
He is quick on go kart type roads and hopeless on fast open flowing roads where the actual speed of them is outside of his comfort zone. A big fish in a small pond.
Allez Andruet
10th May 2019, 20:51
Lappi's so f-ing lost, terrible to see. Absolutely terrible.
TypeR
10th May 2019, 20:51
superb stage for Loeb
racerx1979
10th May 2019, 20:52
Loeb proving why he is a 9 time champ. Great stage by the Maestro
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 20:52
great time maestro!
Allez Andruet
10th May 2019, 20:53
Le Maestro! Beautiful!
Tauri_J
10th May 2019, 20:53
So does this mean Andreas is not doing Finland? He's mentioned a few times the roads are reminiscent of Finland when asked about his lack of pace
I'm amazed if he finishes this season in hyundai
Allez Andruet
10th May 2019, 20:55
Teemu Teemu Teemu :mad:
racerx1979
10th May 2019, 20:55
I'm amazed if he finishes this season in hyundai
With Adamo as boss he might be out by mid season...
stefanvv
10th May 2019, 20:57
Suninen doesn't sound happy.
Mk2 RS2000
10th May 2019, 20:57
I'm amazed if he finishes this season in hyundai
Its only his court actions that are keeping him there now
racerx1979
10th May 2019, 20:59
Its only his court actions that are keeping him there now
Wasn't the court bs all rumors anyways
Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2019, 21:00
Great time from Rovanpera coming... well up on Ostberg.
dimviii
10th May 2019, 21:00
Rovanpera attacks
Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2019, 21:03
No luck for Greensmith here.
Gevin
10th May 2019, 21:04
powersteering issue for Gus.
Mk2 RS2000
10th May 2019, 21:05
Wasn't the court bs all rumors anyways
All behind closed doors, My understanding is that expense of it all wasn't a consideration
racerx1979
10th May 2019, 21:05
He will need more than luck when competing with Mads and Kalle
mousti
10th May 2019, 21:05
Any news of the notional time of Neuville. Will it be changed?
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racerx1979
10th May 2019, 21:06
Any news of the notional time of Neuville. Will it be changed?
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They took off 15 more seconds
TypeR
10th May 2019, 21:07
Any news of the notional time of Neuville. Will it be changed?
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I thinks he should be happy with that +6.6 given..
mknight
10th May 2019, 21:07
Mikkelsen just finished 2nd in last rally and was faster than Loeb/Sordo in Sweden and Argentina respectively (and not slower than them in Monte/Mexico). He was fighting on podium in every rally of the season he drove so far. But yeah they will definitely kick him intermediately if they could....
Also this season quite a lot of drivers have had a rally where they were really slow:
Meeke - SWE, Latvala - COR, Lappi - multiple, Loeb - SWE, COR, Suninen - Argentina.
Looks like this will be a slow one for Mikkelsen.
Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2019, 21:09
He will need more than luck when competing with Mads and Kalle
Engine cutting out and now power-steering issue is bad luck no matter what.
racerx1979
10th May 2019, 21:10
Mikkelsen just finished 2nd in last rally and was faster than Loeb/Sordo in Sweden and Argentina respectively (and not slower than them in Monte/Mexico). He was fighting on podium in every rally of the season he drove so far. But yeah they will definitely kick him intermediately if they could....
Also this season quite a lot of drivers have had a rally where they were really slow:
Meeke - SWE, Latvala - COR, Lappi - multiple, Loeb - SWE, COR, Suninen - Argentina.
Looks like this will be a slow one for Mikkelsen.
Let's not forget Argentina was his first podium since last year SWE.
dimviii
10th May 2019, 21:10
Rovanpera took the lead for 1,9 sec
Gevin
10th May 2019, 21:12
Wonder if sun will be problem for some drivers on SS5
dimviii
10th May 2019, 21:12
at stage 5 Neuville was faster at morning pass. Lets see if he can repeat it.
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 21:12
now 2 minute gaps again, what the hell
steve.mandzij
10th May 2019, 21:13
If Evans were to retire I'd be hitting all eight of my Pickems drivers bang on the money :D
TypeR
10th May 2019, 21:14
so much sun, wonder, if Lappi took his Sweden sunglasses with him :D would boost his pace
racerx1979
10th May 2019, 21:15
If Evans were to retire I'd be hitting all eight of my Pickems drivers bang on the money :D
Pretty good chance it will happen eventually
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 21:15
i dont udnerstand, the gap between Neuvilel is 2 minutes and the gap between Ogier and Tänak is 3 minutes
Gevin
10th May 2019, 21:15
Neuville wants that better starting pos. Ogier SPL1 +1,1s
stefanvv
10th May 2019, 21:16
Looks like Neuville was saving tyres on El Puma, lol
AnttiL
10th May 2019, 21:17
Rovanperä got past Østberg
Gevin
10th May 2019, 21:17
Tänak SPL1 -1,9s. Ogier +3s
dimviii
10th May 2019, 21:19
Neuville 4 sec faster from morning at split 2
Gevin
10th May 2019, 21:24
Ogier got Neu, now 1,4s faster on SPL4
Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2019, 21:25
Ogier faster now than TN.
Allez Andruet
10th May 2019, 21:26
Just stop it Thierry
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 21:26
i didnt get what was Neuvilles problem at the moment
Gevin
10th May 2019, 21:26
Neuville still crying about SS2 time
What's he crying about??!!
Allez Andruet
10th May 2019, 21:27
There's a reason I've never been fan of Neuville and it was displayed right there.
TypeR
10th May 2019, 21:27
ffs Neuville.. what do you want? SS2 stage win..?
USER47
10th May 2019, 21:28
What's he crying about??!!
About last sentence in this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6NtdHJUYAAbeD2.jpg
wrc2017
10th May 2019, 21:28
Evan's way off
Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2019, 21:28
FFS Evans.
racerx1979
10th May 2019, 21:28
It's the same for all drivers... A lot of emotions.. Ogier has his fair share of whining too. The only one calm and cool is Loeb, but I wouldn't dare compare the Maestro to these guys :)
Tarmop
10th May 2019, 21:29
It`s logical to file a complaint and hope for a miracle, but crying about it...even he can`t be so optimistic, after every single stage he has driven today, that he would have lost less than 6.6 seconds.
Gevin
10th May 2019, 21:30
All ok for Tänak. +55s split is wrong. -5,8s fastest at finish
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 21:30
Brilliant day Ott!
Gevin
10th May 2019, 21:31
Day not over yet :) But 10th starting pos for tomorrow
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 21:32
amazing first split by Jari! cmon keep it up!
Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2019, 21:34
Meeke ha ha
Gevin
10th May 2019, 21:35
Latvala coming SPL2 1,3s even faster than Tänak. Keep it up JML and take this starting pos for tomorrow :)
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 21:35
Latvala fastest in second split, -5 off Ogier
dimviii
10th May 2019, 21:35
if Latvala keep this pace will pass Ogier
Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2019, 21:36
Awful from Evans when these stages are so like GB/Wales.
Wtf is that all about Evans. Jesus
Gevin
10th May 2019, 21:37
Its just disgusting to watch Mikkelsen. +25s and almost went off also...
Didn't think Mikkelsen was going fast enough to go off the road
Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2019, 21:38
Latvala is flying !
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 21:39
Latvalas speed 0 for couple of seconds
steve.mandzij
10th May 2019, 21:39
Latvala is flying !These are the moments I live for as his fan :)
racerx1979
10th May 2019, 21:39
Latvala is flying !
Go JML...
racerx1979
10th May 2019, 21:40
Latvalas speed 0 for couple of seconds
Fooking hell!?
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 21:40
Fooking hell!?
yep, has lost 6 secs
TypeR
10th May 2019, 21:41
Latvala was obviuosly too fast..
Gevin
10th May 2019, 21:41
GOod, 2,4 front of Neuville.
racerx1979
10th May 2019, 21:41
yep, has lost 6 secs
Damn!! He would have been just ahead of Ogier too
Gevin
10th May 2019, 21:42
JML very angry....
racerx1979
10th May 2019, 21:42
JML about to get nuts
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 21:42
Lmao at latvala
Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2019, 21:42
Stalled it.
dimviii
10th May 2019, 21:43
Latvala cracked lol
Allez Andruet
10th May 2019, 21:43
In Finnish JML said he hit the brakes too hard and that's why he stalled.
Such a shame anyway.
Ahhhh Jari Marri being Jari Matti, we will miss him we he will retire
racerx1979
10th May 2019, 21:43
Stupid Latvala lol
Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2019, 21:44
Lappi faster than Evans !
Rallyper
10th May 2019, 21:44
Feeling sorry for JML.
But, one thing is clear: the top guys know their homework. JML is one of them. They do the correct pace notes. The second level drivers don´t...
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 21:45
In Finnish JML said he hit the brakes too hard and that's why he stalled.
Such a shame anyway.
actually the Toyotas stall quite often at junctions...especially Lappi had it many times last year and was very angry about it
although Latvala took the blame this time
Latvala pissed = shit rally for Latvala
The most emotional guy in rallying is mega upset for tiny errors and subsequently ruins his own rallies.
steve.mandzij
10th May 2019, 21:45
Lmao at latvalaOur excitement lasted an entire half stage this time at least *
Rallyper
10th May 2019, 21:46
Latvala pissed = shit rally for Latvala
The most emotional guy in rallying is mega upset for tiny errors and subsequently ruins his own rallies.
He missed going up to 2nd...
Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2019, 21:47
Lappi struggling with confidence I expect.
Yep.
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 21:47
Our excitement lasted an entire half stage this time at least *
i was laughing the stage end interview, not his mistake
racerx1979
10th May 2019, 21:47
At least we can enjoy Loeb in his first gravel rally in the I20. Loeb for Finland and beyond. Boot Andreas already and beg Loeb to do more
steve.mandzij
10th May 2019, 21:47
He missed going up to 2nd...On the plus side he didn't lose time to 2nd either. If his pace continues he'll make it.
And at the very least it's awesome to see him with proper pace.
Rallyper
10th May 2019, 21:48
Maestro showing good pace...
stefanvv
10th May 2019, 21:48
The spirit in m-sport is strange.
Gevin
10th May 2019, 21:48
And compare Loeb and Mikkelsen times now...
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 21:49
awesome afternoon by the maestro.
racerx1979
10th May 2019, 21:50
Interesting comment from El Maestro "tomorrow will be opposite, it might be better to be behind"...
Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2019, 21:50
Loeb not sure if later starting will be good tomorrow.
He missed going up to 2nd...He gained a place no? Most drivers would be happy with that.
Comoare it to the approach of the leading trio in the championship.
"yeah I stalled it in a junction. Lost maybe 5 seconds"
With Latvala
"bbblrrhag I'm an idiot uuuurghh bkearrrghh fucking hell".
Keeping your head cool is also an important aspect of being a rally driver. Latvala would have been champion a long time ago if he had that ability.
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 21:50
He mentioned if it rains but the forecast is dry?
Gevin
10th May 2019, 21:51
yeah he gained but was also ahead of Ogier. So that engine stall almost drop him both places
Fast Eddie WRC
10th May 2019, 21:51
Yes Teemu - not starting first tomorrow at least.
TypeR
10th May 2019, 21:53
Yes Teemu - not starting first tomorrow at least.
doesn't matter a thing for him at that pace.. starting first or last :D
stefanvv
10th May 2019, 21:56
Yes Teemu - not starting first tomorrow at least.
4th
Gevin
10th May 2019, 21:58
great fight going on wrc2 pro but they decided to show map on wrc all live and end :)
SPL4 Ostberg and Rovanperä same time
Gevin
10th May 2019, 22:03
Ostberg +0,8s to Kalle and overall +2,7s. Nice one
Gevin
10th May 2019, 22:08
Neuville just 2,4s behind Latvala but that SS2 red flag case not end yet. Hope they wont give time back to him...
EstWRC
10th May 2019, 22:08
"Even if it was two seconds I would think it's [too much]."
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/143302/marshal-started-neuville-cancelled-run-too-early
great fight going on wrc2 pro but they decided to show map on wrc all live and end :)
SPL4 Ostberg and Rovanperä same time
Indeed, first time in WRC2 Pro we have a really nice batlle ongoing, but unfortunately we cann't see that since there is some coffee break reason to show the map.
AnttiL
10th May 2019, 22:21
Indeed, first time in WRC2 Pro we have a really nice batlle ongoing, but unfortunately we cann't see that since there is some coffee break reason to show the map.
Østberg doesn't even have an onboard camera kit, thanks to Bertelli
jparker
10th May 2019, 22:51
Some people are just too slow to understand why Mikkelsen is not fast.
dimviii
10th May 2019, 23:04
https://twitter.com/OfficialWRC/status/1126974942900256769
Munkvy
10th May 2019, 23:05
Didn't Neuvilles time assessment say it was based on performance so far and they would compare how he does on the 2nd running? Where he was 17.6s off 1st? So shouldn't they adjust his time to be worse?
steve.mandzij
11th May 2019, 00:05
https://twitter.com/OfficialWRC/status/1126974942900256769Looking forward to tomorrow, if he can keep that last stage pace throughout he'll be well in the podium battles.
Just needs to cool down for once!
You guys have a pretty short memory.. yes he is pretty bad here but Mikkelsen finished second in Argentina just a couple of weeks ago.
Østberg doesn't even have an onboard camera kit, thanks to Bertelli
What? They are that short of on board cameras?
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