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CoyoteVillagra
16th November 2018, 21:42
3415*2277
https://i.imgur.com/iPp7C3a.jpg

5000*3333
https://i.imgur.com/EnTFXxj.jpg

er88
16th November 2018, 21:46
Neuville had a big moment and ran wide. Unclear if there's any damage, he keeps talking to his co driver but I'm not sure if it's just pacenotes changes, or they've picked up a little damage. Seems to be driving ok but a bit wild

spiderem
16th November 2018, 21:46
evans finally waking up

spiderem
16th November 2018, 21:50
3415*2277
https://i.imgur.com/iPp7C3a.jpg

5000*3333
https://i.imgur.com/EnTFXxj.jpg

is that the toyota badge flying on the first picture on the right?? amazing pic

mknight
16th November 2018, 21:51
Neuville had a big moment and ran wide. Unclear if there's any damage, he keeps talking to his co driver but I'm not sure if it's just pacenotes changes, or they've picked up a little damage. Seems to be driving ok but a bit wild

The wheel didn't look quite straight.

Rallyper
16th November 2018, 21:51
well a lot still to do for the contenders. Anything can happen.

lnvs
16th November 2018, 21:52
Neuville had massive toe in right rear. Commentary think everything looks fine... :rolleyes:

Päss1928
16th November 2018, 21:52
The wheel didn't look quite straight.

It wasn't, and quoting the commentators "Yep, everything looks okay".

jonkka
16th November 2018, 21:55
is that the toyota badge flying on the first picture on the right?? amazing pic

Yes, it is.

mousti
16th November 2018, 21:55
Only 2 k to do. So I think it will be fine.

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EstWRC
16th November 2018, 21:57
Ott has gone crazy

er88
16th November 2018, 21:57
Ogier in cruise mode

Rallyper
16th November 2018, 21:58
Ogier can´t even manage going after Evans and Suninen...

mufcAleksi
16th November 2018, 21:59
It will be so epic if Tänak pulls this off. He just needs nobody to retire from the top6.

spiderem
16th November 2018, 22:01
I guess Ogier is praying that someone up on him on the leaderboard has an issue so he doesn't have to worry on the PS (in case Tanak is leading), and he is just bringing the car home at the moment

mknight
16th November 2018, 22:02
Lappi has 6th and 7th time from first two stages while his two teammates have 2+2 and 5+1 and commentators talk about "another great time today"...........are they mixing people up?

steve.mandzij
16th November 2018, 22:04
You know, I love Suninen, and I think he'll be up there in a few years, but he's ridiculously inconsistent with his pace and struggles a lot to get into rhythm.

I think I've been spoiled by Lappi and Rovanperä and the rest of the usual crew to expect consistent performance from new drivers; it's refreshing to see Teemu drive like the youngsters of yesteryear, quick where he knows best and struggling to keep up elsewhere. It makes me think it'll be all the more amazing to see him develop into a winning driver.

EstWRC
16th November 2018, 22:04
please drivers in TOP6 hold yourself there, please

Rallyper
16th November 2018, 22:05
Ott definitely fastest guy in the bunch of top WRC drivers...

krissucool
16th November 2018, 22:05
Lappi has 6th and 7th time from first two stages while his two teammates have 2+2 and 5+1 and commentators talk about "another great time today"...........are they mixing people up?

They have the memory of a fish.

Päss1928
16th November 2018, 22:05
please drivers in TOP6 hold yourself there, please

Not gonna happen, we all know that.

EstWRC
16th November 2018, 22:06
Breen having some issues?

steve.mandzij
16th November 2018, 22:06
fuck, Breen stoppedJinxed it?

bugwrx
16th November 2018, 22:06
Ott is crushing ..

EstWRC
16th November 2018, 22:07
its a glictch, speed is showing 0 but he is moving for Breen

steve.mandzij
16th November 2018, 22:07
Ott is crushing ..Ott and JML are flying. Ostberg taking flight too.

EstWRC
16th November 2018, 22:08
thanks breen

er88
16th November 2018, 22:08
Breen massively in trouble

KKS
16th November 2018, 22:08
Oh shit Breen

mousti
16th November 2018, 22:08
Breen fucks up

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Rallyper
16th November 2018, 22:08
Breen in trouble!!

er88
16th November 2018, 22:09
Lol well that's title over again unless Ogier hits some unexpected trouble.

Incredible

KKS
16th November 2018, 22:10
thanks breen
another gift for Ogier

EstWRC
16th November 2018, 22:10
man how im cursing now, unbelievable

itix
16th November 2018, 22:10
Crap, Breen is gonna drop behind Ogier... There goes any title chance for Tänak
... And completely bent too... Hope he spares.

er88
16th November 2018, 22:10
Shame for Breen. Was having a good rally but a mistake has killed it for him.

mknight
16th November 2018, 22:12
He said he had empty tire from start.

EstWRC
16th November 2018, 22:12
Toyota 1-2 after this stage it seems

Eli
16th November 2018, 22:12
For christ sake, Craig can't catch a brake this season can he?

Rallyper
16th November 2018, 22:13
So Ogier gained one place.

AL14
16th November 2018, 22:14
Unbelievable, even Toyota going to cheat!! What a shame!!!

er88
16th November 2018, 22:14
Team orders at Toyota but it was to be expected, they have to let Ott go

spiderem
16th November 2018, 22:15
Points as it stands without PS (when Tanak go first):
- Ogier 212
- Tanak 206
- Neuville 191

KKS
16th November 2018, 22:15
Ott can pass Latvala by his own speed without that silly dogs tactics

steve.mandzij
16th November 2018, 22:15
Team orders at Toyota but it was to be expected, they have to let Ott goLatvala's first winless season since 2007 :(

AL14
16th November 2018, 22:15
Latvala into the lead.

EstWRC
16th November 2018, 22:16
he said it will be done if needed, atm there is no need for it.

and Ott would be past him by speed anyway

KKS
16th November 2018, 22:16
Lappi now decisive man for a championship.

AL14
16th November 2018, 22:17
Virtual classification anyone? :D

spiderem
16th November 2018, 22:17
Virtual classification anyone? :D

see a bit earlier post

krissucool
16th November 2018, 22:18
Lappi now decisive man for a championship.

How, is he gonna get past Ogier 2nd time?
If Ogier is 6th it is all over before PS.

AL14
16th November 2018, 22:18
see a bit earlier post

thanks, is it considering Tanak second as it is now?

Essaj
16th November 2018, 22:19
I will be so pissed if this Breen incident costed Tanak the championship win

er88
16th November 2018, 22:19
he said it will be done if needed, atm there is no need for it.

and Ott would be past him by speed anywayHe said he was told not to concentrate on Ott. That effectively means let him go, don't try to fight him. Sensible

spiderem
16th November 2018, 22:19
thanks, is it considering Tanak second as it is now?

Tanak first (he will not be second to Latvala)

itix
16th November 2018, 22:21
I will be so pissed if this Breen incident costed Tanak the championship winI'm sure it did. Even if Ogier gets 0 PS points and Tänak 5 he still loose by one point.

Ogier needs a puncture or similar to give Tänak a chance again (and that's very very unlikely).

Maybe maybe if Neuville manage to overhaul but that is almost as unlikely.

mousti
16th November 2018, 22:22
man how im cursing now, unbelievableKnow the feeling..

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mknight
16th November 2018, 22:23
I will be so pissed if this Breen incident costed Tanak the championship win

Relax.
1. There will likely be 1-2 incidents still coming
2. There already have been both lucky and unlucky incidents yesterday that either directly or indirectly influence the results (Tanak SS3, Neuville SS6, the tractor...)

If you follow this up a few rallies back you end up with like 30 incidents that all played a role one way or another.

spiderem
16th November 2018, 22:26
in all fairness, as much as breen's incident can be hard for Ott's fan, Ott had a fair bit of luck yesterday as well.
Ogier is just really clean since the start, it's a long run.

Rally Hokkaido
16th November 2018, 22:26
That bale covering massive tree stump which was Molly hit and that destroyed a car, not bale

Thanks for the explanation about the stump as I couldn't understand the placement of that bale. From the onboard video I saw, she wouldn't have hit the tree that the bale was in front of.

tpt010
16th November 2018, 22:26
I will be so pissed if this Breen incident costed Tanak the championship win

It is hard for Tänak now, but this is championship. It is not decided in one rally. And anyway anything can still happen, there are a lot of kilometres left.

mufcAleksi
16th November 2018, 22:27
Neuville's rear right tyre is pointing so much in the wrong direction and the commentators don't notice it

mknight
16th November 2018, 22:29
Breen not moving, so will drop behind Neuville as well if he manages to fix it .

mufcAleksi
16th November 2018, 22:30
I don't think Breen will make this stage in time, he's still at the finish of SS11

Fast Eddie WRC
16th November 2018, 22:33
Exceeding track limits ha ha ;)

Essaj
16th November 2018, 22:34
Not looking good for Breen, if he manages to get to final stage of the loop he will still pick quite a bit of penalties :/

arx
16th November 2018, 22:39
If Tänak loses championship to Ogier then this is his fault too - being too lazy hunting PS points beginning of year...

mufcAleksi
16th November 2018, 22:41
Breen is moving! definitely gonna be like 10 minutes late to the stage though

stefanvv
16th November 2018, 22:41
Exceeding track limits ha ha ;)

That just begs for penalties.

EstWRC
16th November 2018, 22:42
everyone is doing it

N.O.T
16th November 2018, 22:43
The championship is now between 2 proper drivers which is nice whoever wins it deserves it.... the potato can join the natural born losers club of rallying.

surdna
16th November 2018, 22:45
was it in germany where Ogier won PS by 0,1sec ahead Tänak? This 0,1sec may decide who becomes world champ in 2018

stefanvv
16th November 2018, 22:46
Evans for a stage win:D

Fast Eddie WRC
16th November 2018, 22:46
Rain in the area.

mknight
16th November 2018, 22:46
Putting out random close calls is... random.

If you really want to do it I encourage you to do the full list from all rallies. But it will be very long.

stefanvv
16th November 2018, 22:56
Putting out random close calls is... random.

If you really want to do it I encourage you to do the full list from all rallies. But it will be very long.

The most dramatic seems to be Sardegna.

EstWRC
16th November 2018, 22:57
i would more say Portugal with the stone or Mexico with engine fail

mknight
16th November 2018, 22:59
The most dramatic seems to be Sardegna.

For me it's Turkey tbh, because of the ammount of points that were moving around for all 3 drivers, not just one. It could have ended with Neuville extending lead by 10-15 points on both, or Ogier closing on Neuville and increasing lead on Tanak and ended with Tanak closing both by a lot.

Mk2 RS2000
17th November 2018, 00:29
Well for all those in the Northern Hemisphere sitting on the edge of their chair while staying awake to follow this rally you now know what us guys from "down Under" have to endure.

stefanvv
17th November 2018, 00:35
Well for all those in the Northern Hemisphere sitting on the edge of their chair while staying awake to follow this rally you now know what us guys from "down Under" have to endure.

winter is coming in the north, and the French wolf will sit on the throne again for awhile.

Robbo
17th November 2018, 00:35
Here in Hastings 24degrees. Nice chilled white wine. Sure beats the all nighters.

EstWRC
17th November 2018, 00:43
#Tyre info, Day 2 afternoon loop:

Ostberg & Breen & Ogier & Evans & Suninen & Mikkelsen: 5 H4

Neuville & Latvala: 4 H4 + 1 M6

Paddon& Tänak & Lappi: 4 H4 + 2 M6

KKS
17th November 2018, 00:44
How, is he gonna get past Ogier 2nd time?
If Ogier is 6th it is all over before PS.
If he stays ahead of Ogier - Tanak still have some hope for a title. If he dropped behind Ogier - Ogier will be a champion by 99.9%

stefanvv
17th November 2018, 00:46
Serderidis sightseeing tour.

KKS
17th November 2018, 00:47
Have some sleep at this pause, cuz last day have 2 hrs of sleep and going into a work and that start to be effected on this night run.
What a interesting rally rally and I looking only for some sleep.
Hope now some coffee helps.

stefanvv
17th November 2018, 00:54
Evans again faster than Neuville so far. Malcolm, give this boy a drive next year....

mousti
17th November 2018, 00:58
Evans again faster than Neuville so far. Malcolm, give this boy a drive next year....His season was as good like Mikkelsen. Dissapointing.

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KKS
17th November 2018, 00:58
Evans again faster than Neuville so far. Malcolm, give this boy a drive next year....
0.6 slower, but on this rate this not matter at all (

Mk2 RS2000
17th November 2018, 00:58
Here in Hastings 24degrees. Nice chilled white wine. Sure beats the all nighters.

Being two hours ahead of Australia I managed to sneak off for a couple of hours fishing before the rally today.

EstWRC
17th November 2018, 01:02
Ogier can say he has no pressure but his face says it all on ALLLIVE

KKS
17th November 2018, 01:04
and he confident. But that case that if he stay where he are and being 3rd on PS and Ott go full 30pts - Ott will be a champion. And this must be a stress situation for Ogier

KKS
17th November 2018, 01:07
Paddon 1st split even faster. Ott have not free road for 1st pos

EstWRC
17th November 2018, 01:08
Paddon was also very quick on this in the morning

KKS
17th November 2018, 01:10
wow... Paddon are wild

er88
17th November 2018, 01:10
Paddon can't drive the last stage of the loop, and that'll be the key one.

Rallyper
17th November 2018, 01:12
Paddon not a threat.

And Tänak will pass JML on raw speed.

KKS
17th November 2018, 01:15
but seems so far they battling !

EstWRC
17th November 2018, 01:17
the next two stages will be key like in in the morning

Rallyper
17th November 2018, 01:18
the next two stages will be key like in in the morning

And we know the outcome.

EstWRC
17th November 2018, 01:20
actually i dont understand why Tänak took 2 spares, i would understand if Ogier did it to be safe.

weird.

stefanvv
17th November 2018, 01:22
actually i dont understand why Tänak took 2 spares, i would understand if Ogier did it to be safe.

weird.

expecting rain perhaps, no sense other way.

KKS
17th November 2018, 01:23
And we see how LATE on one TC affected into road position for all other day. Craig once shifted in order - keep that new order all way to the end without extra time penalty.

stefanvv
17th November 2018, 01:24
His season was as good like Mikkelsen. Dissapointing.


So easily bashing drivers, the latter almost won last stage.

GravelBen
17th November 2018, 01:31
expecting rain perhaps, no sense other way.

Or expecting lots of tyre wear maybe?

journeyman racer
17th November 2018, 01:39
Unfortunately, the rally hasn't got widespread mainstream attention here in Australia. I've actually wondered why the WRC does come down here?

stefanvv
17th November 2018, 01:40
Or expecting lots of tyre wear maybe?

with 4 hard tyres?

GravelBen
17th November 2018, 01:46
with 4 hard tyres?

Good point, the hards should last well enough.

EstWRC
17th November 2018, 01:49
have to say its getting really boring now, such a shame the fight ended so early, really wanted to go till power stage

KKS
17th November 2018, 01:52
Neuville done half of Suninen margin by half a stage.

SubaruNorway
17th November 2018, 01:56
actually i dont understand why Tänak took 2 spares, i would understand if Ogier did it to be safe.

weird.

In case of rain Latvala said

KKS
17th November 2018, 01:58
Ogier start to make a time... it's a two way news ;)

KKS
17th November 2018, 01:59
last split - Suninen and TN leveled

stefanvv
17th November 2018, 01:59
Nice effort Neuville, but far from enough

Rallyper
17th November 2018, 01:59
have to say its getting really boring now, such a shame the fight ended so early, really wanted to go till power stage

Remember 2001, when Tommi was out early and fight only between Colin and Richard. Which ended with Colins´big crash.

However Burnsie had to finish... Same for Ogier. And Tanak. We still have a fight.

KKS
17th November 2018, 02:00
Oh, what a stupid...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsK76TKW0AAHmsq.jpg

jonkka
17th November 2018, 02:04
I thought that only around Mediterranean people play bullfighting with rally cars :eek:

KKS
17th November 2018, 02:10
heartbraking sideway by Ott near the end of a stage

Rallyper
17th November 2018, 02:10
Tanak so sideways I thought he´d roll ...

EstWRC
17th November 2018, 02:10
heartbraking sideway by Ott near the end of a stage

whoah, i was sure he is off now

KKS
17th November 2018, 02:13
Mads start to fight back with Paddon, now 1.3 quicker on 3rd split

EstWRC
17th November 2018, 02:16
whoah ALLLIVE exploded my ears

Rallyper
17th November 2018, 02:16
All Live just cut out!!

the sniper
17th November 2018, 02:17
Well now I'm deaf...

KKS
17th November 2018, 02:17
After that ALLLIVE beep through the night it now definitely - ALL AROUND are ALIVE!

Rallyper
17th November 2018, 02:17
Man!

stefanvv
17th November 2018, 02:17
Waking up alarm

Rallyper
17th November 2018, 02:22
Mikkelsen is a mystery to me.

EstWRC
17th November 2018, 02:38
https://www.upload.ee/image/9198156/pika.png

dimviii
17th November 2018, 02:48
"The puncture of Thierry, it is a fact of race, detailed Alain Penasse at the microphone of Olivier Gaspard, the special correspondent of the RTBF in Australia.Human, it will have to leave Saturday first on the road, but one does not know not yet all the details of the weather.If it rains really, it's the best position possible! If they really rain on these stages, the gaps will be very important, so we still hope that the wheel turns on our side."

"We have to stay positive, Saturday, two or three Toyota could stop for some reason, it's never over," said the Belgian team manager Hyundai Motorsport. a few years ago (in 1998, Ed), we lost the title with Carlos Sainz 300 meters from the finish of the last stage of the last rally.T Thierry is disappointed, it is clear, but it was said that this Saturday, Sebastien Ogier can break the engine, or get off the road and break his hoop ... It's not very sporty, but it can happen on a rally. "

Something other than Alain Penasse does not find very sporty, it is the instructions of team applied very early at M-Sport: his teammates Elfyn Evans and Teemu Suninen slowed down at the end of the stage to allow Sébastien Ogier to pass in front of them and win two places overall.

"I saw that there were instructions at M-Sport, I will read once the FIA ​​sports code, and we'll see if it's really correct what they do all the time, because it really lacks sportsmanship, but it's not really me who should read the sporting code, it's more to the FIA ​​to follow the sporting code. "

https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_penasse-les-consignes-d-equipe-a-repetition-chez-m-sport-ce-n-est-vraiment-pas-sportif?id=10074937&fbclid=IwAR2cPdCyXWPa4E8kHf_j8VjPQCmtEI32RveuMUwRc 0FjzMLuiuOgVX3TUXs

Rallyper
17th November 2018, 02:49
Now SS15. Let´s see what it will bring.

stefanvv
17th November 2018, 02:54
"The puncture of Thierry, it is a fact of race, detailed Alain Penasse at the microphone of Olivier Gaspard, the special correspondent of the RTBF in Australia.Human, it will have to leave Saturday first on the road, but one does not know not yet all the details of the weather.If it rains really, it's the best position possible! If they really rain on these stages, the gaps will be very important, so we still hope that the wheel turns on our side."

"We have to stay positive, Saturday, two or three Toyota could stop for some reason, it's never over," said the Belgian team manager Hyundai Motorsport. a few years ago (in 1998, Ed), we lost the title with Carlos Sainz 300 meters from the finish of the last stage of the last rally.T Thierry is disappointed, it is clear, but it was said that this Saturday, Sebastien Ogier can break the engine, or get off the road and break his hoop ... It's not very sporty, but it can happen on a rally. "

Something other than Alain Penasse does not find very sporty, it is the instructions of team applied very early at M-Sport: his teammates Elfyn Evans and Teemu Suninen slowed down at the end of the stage to allow Sébastien Ogier to pass in front of them and win two places overall.

"I saw that there were instructions at M-Sport, I will read once the FIA ​​sports code, and we'll see if it's really correct what they do all the time, because it really lacks sportsmanship, but it's not really me who should read the sporting code, it's more to the FIA ​​to follow the sporting code. "

https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_penasse-les-consignes-d-equipe-a-repetition-chez-m-sport-ce-n-est-vraiment-pas-sportif?id=10074937&fbclid=IwAR2cPdCyXWPa4E8kHf_j8VjPQCmtEI32RveuMUwRc 0FjzMLuiuOgVX3TUXs

That's ridiculous, from start to end.

Rallyper
17th November 2018, 02:55
Neuville pushing.

KKS
17th November 2018, 02:57
. It's not very sporty, but it can happen on a rally. "

Something other than Alain Penasse does not find very sporty, it is the instructions of team applied very early at M-Sport: his teammates Elfyn Evans and Teemu Suninen slowed down at the end of the stage to allow Sébastien Ogier to pass in front of them and win two places overall.

"I saw that there were instructions at M-Sport, I will read once the FIA ​​sports code, and we'll see if it's really correct what they do all the time, because it really lacks sportsmanship, but it's not really me who should read the sporting code, it's more to the FIA ​​to follow the sporting code. "

https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_penasse-les-consignes-d-equipe-a-repetition-chez-m-sport-ce-n-est-vraiment-pas-sportif?id=10074937&fbclid=IwAR2cPdCyXWPa4E8kHf_j8VjPQCmtEI32RveuMUwRc 0FjzMLuiuOgVX3TUXs

fair said

EstWRC
17th November 2018, 03:09
why Ogier was so rush getting away?

KKS
17th November 2018, 03:10
Paddon 20 sec quicker on 1st split or wrong split?

Rallyper
17th November 2018, 03:10
1st split for Paddon?? Must be wrong.

Edit: Now corrected.

er88
17th November 2018, 03:11
Looked like he just stopped accelerating at a brief moment towards the end, like the car was dying. Doesn't seem to be an issue though and probably just the interference on the feed which made it seem like that

Essaj
17th November 2018, 03:11
why Ogier was so rush getting away?

After that weird sound the car didn't seem to be accelerating at all but it could have been a glitch on the graphics. His time was fine.

dimviii
17th November 2018, 03:13
https://twitter.com/F_Gustavsson/status/1063342742577848321

Essaj
17th November 2018, 03:15
Splits are currently useless. They are off by a mile.
Edit: Splits seems to be fine now

KKS
17th November 2018, 03:16
weird splits. but time after self-corrected

EstWRC
17th November 2018, 03:18
Jari quite slow in last split

stefanvv
17th November 2018, 03:18
Tanak now 1st but slower than Lappi? Where are the team orders?:D

PS: Someone wanted to give him an example before awhile.

EstWRC
17th November 2018, 03:21
Jari regretting not taking two spares, his tyres quite finished hence the time

Rallyper
17th November 2018, 03:22
Seems like Mads also has tyre problems...

KKS
17th November 2018, 03:23
and thats a "2 spares" tactic is explained

Essaj
17th November 2018, 03:23
Nothing against the splits on this stage but Alberto heller is now "fastest" by 38secs in the first split :D

KKS
17th November 2018, 03:24
Mads really looking lost

racerx1979
17th November 2018, 03:25
He seems really Mads

Rallyper
17th November 2018, 03:26
Soon goodnight from me. Over and out. See you tomorrow guys.

er88
17th November 2018, 03:27
Citroen not had a good day. One of those days where the drivers just don't have the feeling/confidence.

SubaruNorway
17th November 2018, 03:29
I think Mads said something about too high diff pressure on the previous one

dimviii
17th November 2018, 03:29
Ogier 212
Tänak 206
Neuville 205

steve.mandzij
17th November 2018, 03:32
Jari regretting not taking two spares, his tyres quite finished hence the timeHilarious how well that quote aged

KKS
17th November 2018, 03:33
I think Mads said something about too high diff pressure on the previous one
he looks satisfied with a car and setup on prev stages, why than changed diff setup... strange

steve.mandzij
17th November 2018, 03:40
I'm quite disappointed again at Latvala's inability to fend off Tanak, ever.

KKS
17th November 2018, 03:42
$200 000 - Toyota damage cost for 2 cars of Friday watersplash О_О:eek:

EstWRC
17th November 2018, 03:47
you can see how relieved Ogier is after every stage finish, havent seen him so for a long time

litifeta
17th November 2018, 03:50
Oh, what a stupid...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsK76TKW0AAHmsq.jpg

we have a name for these idiots in Australia: bogans

KKS
17th November 2018, 04:03
Spectacular stage by Mads.
And now need some sleep, a bit difficult to not sleep 48 hrs :o

Mk2 RS2000
17th November 2018, 04:10
Soon goodnight from me. Over and out. See you tomorrow guys.

Catch you tomorrow, you go to bed while we slip outside for a barbecue and a few beers Cheers

GravelBen
17th November 2018, 04:14
mmm...beeeeeer

dimviii
17th November 2018, 05:42
michelin leg 2 video
https://youtu.be/LKk-VX-d_T8

Mk2 RS2000
17th November 2018, 06:32
The rain mid way through the Coffs Harbour stages has thrown a bit of a curve ball

mknight
17th November 2018, 06:47
Serderidis beats factory drivers by 2-4 s/km, LOL

dimviii
17th November 2018, 06:53
Hayden Paddon


Great day today - 2 scratch times, up to P3 and feeling great in the car on some amazing stages. A long way to go still - the rain is now falling and tomorrow’s stages will be very slippery!

Ds3
17th November 2018, 06:58
Serderidis beats factory drivers by 2-4 s/km, LOL

Serderidis is with a young boyfriend on a trip. He is not up to the rally, can not wait to get back to the hotel .......

EstWRC
17th November 2018, 10:35
Latvalas tyre at the end of the day

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsLd-VQWkAEyeDW.jpg

dimviii
17th November 2018, 11:29
https://scontent.fbru3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46280352_2167256573318989_3744484954034143232_o.jp g?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru3-1.fna&oh=6ba1063e0c24526fc1ba8d2b8d2fbbb3&oe=5CB0687B
https://scontent.fbru3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46370499_1798490303581629_7642767073415790592_n.jp g?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru3-1.fna&oh=abc696c40c4d207004d3e980d66de127&oe=5CAF561D

itix
17th November 2018, 11:55
Oh, what a stupid...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsK76TKW0AAHmsq.jpgHoly mother of...
Marshall's should be allowed to shoot these kind of people and then put their heads on display at the entrance of the service park as a deterrent.

Really...if you ever see anyone doing this out on the stages, punch them really hard in the face. No one destroys our sport like these people.

mknight
17th November 2018, 12:05
On second thought, there were some people doing similar stuff here last year. Just remember it was on right-hand corner and they were in like 1m height.

dimviii
17th November 2018, 12:14
On second thought, there were some people doing similar stuff here last year. Just remember it was on right-hand corner and they were in like 1m height.

https://twitter.com/BritRallyMedia/status/1063699813571674112

Sulland
17th November 2018, 12:17
I think Mads said something about too high diff pressure on the previous one

If you have a car that takes you to a lead, why change any setting?
Did surface change that much?

EstWRC
17th November 2018, 12:38
video from friday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv52qaFmgGU&t=

AnttiL
17th November 2018, 12:48
Quite expected moves at the front, well done from Tänak, and Latvala as well, although Latvala lost quite much for having to drive both super specials in the rain. That weird grouped starting order was an advantage to Neuville and Suninen who got both dry runs and Latvala et al conversely both in rain.

WRC2 is again a joke with two of the four cars in Rally2 and the second car is an Italian Subaru 19 minutes behind Alberto Heller. The best non-WRC2 R5 cars of Gaurav Gill and Eli Evans are also in Rally2...

satnav
17th November 2018, 12:52
Oh, what a stupid...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsK76TKW0AAHmsq.jpg

Apparently these assholes have been identified ;
https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/police-identify-daredevil-rally-australia-spectators/3215393/

mknight
17th November 2018, 13:02
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/140115/rain-shakes-up-lead-battle-on-rally-australia



Latvala, meanwhile, was the least fortunate with the weather, with his two runs in the wet costing him significant time - his 10-second edge over Paddon from the forest stages was more than halved thanks to the Hyundai driver getting his first run done in the dry.

An unhappy Latvala called for the times to be disregarded.
"This is not fair," he said.

"We are waiting two hours here to drive the superspecial. Then some are in dry conditions, some are in wet.

"It's not the same race. For me, we should cancel the times. This is stupid."


Did he really say that? They should cancel times cause some had rain on the stage and some not............really.

AnttiL
17th November 2018, 13:04
https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/police-identify-daredevil-rally-australia-spectators/3215393/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Aus off, NZ in, I say

SubaruNorway
17th November 2018, 13:45
If you have a car that takes you to a lead, why change any setting?
Did surface change that much?

Not sure if it was due to the diff change at service, they've had issues with diff pressure building too high before

EstWRC
17th November 2018, 14:14
https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/police-identify-daredevil-rally-australia-spectators/3215393/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Aus off, NZ in, I say


i agree completely, i have never liked this round.

it can be in calendar but not the final round. Wales would have been much better for example.

KKS
17th November 2018, 14:20
Kremer retire on a small cross-circuit?

NickRally
17th November 2018, 14:35
Last 84 special stage kilometers of the season to start soon, let's hope they are as good as the entire 2018 WRC season and that the organisers do not turn it into an anticlimax by canceling any stages for whatever reasons.

stefanvv
17th November 2018, 14:38
Well said by Ogier at the end of highlights about the Hyundai's fuss.

steve.mandzij
17th November 2018, 14:47
i agree completely, i have never liked this round.

it can be in calendar but not the final round. Wales would have been much better for example.The roads are quite nice though, to be honest.

CWJ
17th November 2018, 14:58
Kremer retire on a small cross-circuit?

Broken radiator SS15, restart on Sunday

AnttiL
17th November 2018, 15:04
The roads are quite nice though, to be honest.

NZ has better

CoyoteVillagra
17th November 2018, 15:14
https://i.imgur.com/re0gMKo.jpg



https://i.imgur.com/M7eJx9A.jpg

mknight
17th November 2018, 15:36
Well said by Ogier at the end of highlights about the Hyundai's fuss.

Afaik the "fuss" was that Ogier's car made strange engine sounds after one of the last stages which he confirmed on alllive and said the co-driver reset something which fixed it. He confirms it at 11:30 into the 1700-1717 Studio on alllive for Saturday. The additional rumor was that someone claimed they were pushing the car after the carwash which he denies.

The additional comments by Ogier sound like small children complaining even though they do exactly same stuff or worse.

Ogier complains that "Hyundai always tries something, like with the chicane in Mexico and yesterday they didn't respect the chicane (means Neuville after puncture) and we didn't complain". Pure angels those guys at Msport, except:
- Ogier was the first to create the PowerStage mess in Sweden (which arguably is why FIA penalized him in Mexico for something else) and the 4 points from there will win him the title if things stay as they are
- MSport got Sordo penalized in Portugal for touching stuff on city stage making sure Suninen and Evans get on podium ahead of him. The nasty part is that he was not nominated for manu points and since he was not doing full season he couldn't threaten anyone in driver's champ. either.

BigWorm
17th November 2018, 15:38
Well said by Ogier at the end of highlights about the Hyundai's fuss.

What are those rumours they have been spreading? I've missed that

mknight
17th November 2018, 15:46
What are those rumours they have been spreading? I've missed that
Read start of my post.

mousti
17th November 2018, 15:49
https://www.facebook.com/1379967315398318/posts/1965228416872202/

This was more of a close call than Mikkelsen and a Tractor

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KKS
17th November 2018, 15:58
Just watched a SSS. What a horrible organization of running order. Latvala and Mads lost ~20sec each cuz of that...
If they do reverse running order it must be a full reverse and not that groups.

SubaruNorway
17th November 2018, 16:00
Like Malcom said at the end of day press conf it could have been a relay getting stuck open, sounded like all power cut out and the reset made the relay connect again so they changed everything in service. Not sure why Ogier says Hyundai is trying to make a story when there clearly was an issue.

And Ogier gained time on a chicane on a power stage, Neuville stopped completely and lost lots of time, which is two completely different things even though according to the road book you're supposed to go the correct way i guess, Ogier also had 4 wheels off the road on a cut...

denkimi
17th November 2018, 16:03
Serderidis is with a young boyfriend on a trip. He is not up to the rally, can not wait to get back to the hotel .......

serderidis is on the road with lara vanneste. :p

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/703277872392355840/eEBxSo7B_400x400.jpg

KKS
17th November 2018, 16:38
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/140115/rain-shakes-up-lead-battle-on-rally-australia



Did he really say that? They should cancel times cause some had rain on the stage and some not............really.
Yes he said that, cuz road order not straight and fair. If all have allocated start time as on normal stages - it's normal, it's a rally and it's a weather. But here one drivers do two dry runs and other's two wet runs.

KKS
17th November 2018, 16:43
Afaik the "fuss" was that Ogier's car made strange engine sounds after one of the last stages which he confirmed on alllive and said the co-driver reset something which fixed it. He confirms it at 11:30 into the 1700-1717 Studio on alllive for Saturday. The additional rumor was that someone claimed they were pushing the car after the carwash which he denies.

The additional comments by Ogier sound like small children complaining even though they do exactly same stuff or worse.

Ogier complains that "Hyundai always tries something, like with the chicane in Mexico and yesterday they didn't respect the chicane (means Neuville after puncture) and we didn't complain". Pure angels those guys at Msport, except:
- Ogier was the first to create the PowerStage mess in Sweden (which arguably is why FIA penalized him in Mexico for something else) and the 4 points from there will win him the title if things stay as they are
- MSport got Sordo penalized in Portugal for touching stuff on city stage making sure Suninen and Evans get on podium ahead of him. The nasty part is that he was not nominated for manu points and since he was not doing full season he couldn't threaten anyone in driver's champ. either.
Well said. 2 beers.

And with that of mind set Ogier never get any respect even in France, even if he drive a french team with a french car.

KKS
17th November 2018, 16:47
serderidis is on the road with lara vanneste. :p

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/703277872392355840/eEBxSo7B_400x400.jpg

Young girl and has already managed to co-drive to: Abbring, Loix, Bouffier, Breen.

https://www.ewrc-results.com/coprofile/10774-lara-vanneste/

stefanvv
17th November 2018, 17:16
Afaik the "fuss" was that Ogier's car made strange engine sounds after one of the last stages which he confirmed on alllive and said the co-driver reset something which fixed it. He confirms it at 11:30 into the 1700-1717 Studio on alllive for Saturday. The additional rumor was that someone claimed they were pushing the car after the carwash which he denies.

The additional comments by Ogier sound like small children complaining even though they do exactly same stuff or worse.

Ogier complains that "Hyundai always tries something, like with the chicane in Mexico and yesterday they didn't respect the chicane (means Neuville after puncture) and we didn't complain". Pure angels those guys at Msport, except:
- Ogier was the first to create the PowerStage mess in Sweden (which arguably is why FIA penalized him in Mexico for something else) and the 4 points from there will win him the title if things stay as they are
- MSport got Sordo penalized in Portugal for touching stuff on city stage making sure Suninen and Evans get on podium ahead of him. The nasty part is that he was not nominated for manu points and since he was not doing full season he couldn't threaten anyone in driver's champ. either.

Bullshit. I'm talking about the fuss Penasse has spewed yesterday.

stefanvv
17th November 2018, 17:20
What are those rumours they have been spreading? I've missed that

Not rumors, Penasse blaming M-Sport for unsporting behavior and will try to find some rule forbidding team orders, totally ridiculous. Ogier just said they are sportsmen enopugh not to hunt Neuville for penalty disregarding the chicane.

Myrvold
17th November 2018, 17:28
Young girl and has already managed to co-drive to: Abbring, Loix, Bouffier, Breen.

https://www.ewrc-results.com/coprofile/10774-lara-vanneste/

But she was completely out of it on the stage I watched, she kept reading notes even after Serderidis said "Finish".

stefanvv
17th November 2018, 17:35
But she was completely out of it on the stage I watched, she kept reading notes even after Serderidis said "Finish".

:D. Indeed with his pace he doesn't need correct notes.

KKS
17th November 2018, 17:36
not rumors, penasse blaming m-sport for unsporting behavior and will try to find some rule forbidding team orders, totally ridiculous. Ogier just said they are sportsmen enopugh not to hunt neuville for penalty disregarding the chicane.
:D

KKS
17th November 2018, 17:45
But she was completely out of it on the stage I watched, she kept reading notes even after Serderidis said "Finish".
Seems you been lost somewhere. Co-driver always check stage times and stop his stopwatch on flying finish. It's not gonna be happen to not see finish when you told about FF to your driver 10sec ago.

Just see all stage finishes from 1st loop - all perfect. Didn't know where you see that.

dimviii
17th November 2018, 17:50
But she was completely out of it on the stage I watched, she kept reading notes even after Serderidis said "Finish".

some crews used to read 1 or 2 corners after flying for safety reasons

stefanvv
17th November 2018, 17:55
:D

Yeah, I'm still laughing at Penasse as well, shouldn't embarrass himself (and the whole team) like that. It's not very funny after all.

denkimi
17th November 2018, 17:57
But she was completely out of it on the stage I watched, she kept reading notes even after Serderidis said "Finish".
if she keeps reading notes, that means that there are still notes to be read.

myself and lots of other drivers make some notes even after the flying finish, often until the time control. I usually even put in the first direction of the liaison.

KKS
17th November 2018, 18:04
Yeah, I'm still laughing at Penasse as well, shouldn't embarrass himself (and the whole team) like that. It's not very funny after all.
I'm laughing at you.
You like your idol. All negative as you have you transmit to others. It's not Ogier make unsportsmanship moves - it's Penasse bad.
It's not Ogier fiesta fault and they must to push a car - it's all Huyndai fictional story. Yep.

steve.mandzij
17th November 2018, 18:06
Not rumors, Penasse blaming M-Sport for unsporting behavior and will try to find some rule forbidding team orders, totally ridiculous. Ogier just said they are sportsmen enopugh not to hunt Neuville for penalty disregarding the chicane.But you know msport would have fought tooth and nail to get Neuville penalized if he was ahead of Ogier right now

stefanvv
17th November 2018, 18:24
But you know msport would have fought tooth and nail to get Neuville penalized if he was ahead of Ogier right now

Yes, and would had every right to do so. BTW there is still a possibility for Neuville if Ogier has a puncture for example, so I'm wondering why they didn't.

stefanvv
17th November 2018, 18:25
I'm laughing at you.
You like your idol. All negative as you have you transmit to others. It's not Ogier make unsportsmanship moves - it's Penasse bad.
It's not Ogier fiesta fault and they must to push a car - it's all Huyndai fictional story. Yep.

Why bother reading then. If You need some laugh just look at the mirror, much effortless.

tommeke_B
17th November 2018, 18:29
If the final result is same as the current standings, drivers points will be:

Ogier 204 + 8 = 212
Tänak 181 + 25 = 206
Neuville 201 + +4 = 205

Ogier can just cruise through the last leg on his way to the title, powerstage should decide 2nd and 3rd in championship.

KKS
17th November 2018, 18:32
"It began with a light rain in Coffs Harbour but now it's a good one! https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f327.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f327.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f327.png"
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsOd2HsXgAM6DBC.jpg

spiderem
17th November 2018, 18:35
Rain will spice things up. My money on Ogier to keep the car on the road, we will see mistakes in an hour.
Let's bring in the final day of the season, in a bit more than 7 hours, we will know the world champion

mknight
17th November 2018, 19:00
So since basically all 3 drivers have still a (small) chance for title as well as 3 manufacturers I was making a mental list of why each of them should deserve/not deserve it:

Ogier

+ Went back to rally-winning speed after not so good last year
+ Stable and using his head most of the time
+ Clearly not as much factory support as Ford claims

- Total sacrifice of whole team for him
- Sweden PS stage (nobody did that before even though rules were same for quite a while)
- Boring that same person wins all the time

Neuville

+ Impressive first half of the season, specially Sardinia
+ Seems that car is a disadvantage on quite a few rallies (FIN, GB friday, tarmac...)
+ Much improved stability and less mistakes compared with last year

- Comes across as least likable person

Tanak

+ Clearly fastest driver+car combination second half of season
+ Most likable
+ some bad luck

- Toyota helps as the car seems to be fastest in second half (even using JML stagetimes as reference)
- did quite a few small or big mistakes as well and was lucky on occasions

--------------------------------------
Personal:
I don't really want Ogier to win cause if he does then in a few years 2018 is remembered as just another season that Ogier won, forgetting the close fight. Out of the other two I have to go with Neuville, cause I rather cheer for the underdog and here as well as quite a few other places 9/10 of the people cheer on Tanak.
Still anyone of those 3 deserves to win.

=======================


Toyota
+ Fastest on just about all surfaces since mid-season
+ Big step in both speed and reliability from last year
- "Unlimited" testing (and lol at their arguments how it's not really "unlimited")

Hyundai
+ Kinda deserve it after loosing it last year mostly on reliability
- Didn't invest time and money for tarmac even though there were signs already a year ago that it was a problem, Neuville+Sordo speed in Corsica and Germany this year relative to last year is telling. (Also they saw this in Corsica and still didn't do anything for Germany)
- Still keep on coming to rallies without good setup (GB friday this year), last year that was common occurrence
- Still no sign of improvement in Finland after how many years?

MSport
+ Can fight in top with seemingly low budget and "weaker" 2nd+3rd driver
- Using all resources on Ogier
- The at times ridiculous use of any small thing to force even the tiniest advantage, Finland Friday and Sunday best examples. They dropped Evans and Sunninen just so that Ogier runs 6th instead of 5th on the road

----------------
Personal:
For me Toyota deserves the manu title, if Hyundai wins it it's ok, but don't feel the need to cheer on them. If MSport wins (extremely unlikely) I'd be quite disappointed. Only thing I am afraid of is that Toyota starts to dominate like Citroen/VW did.

spiderem
17th November 2018, 19:08
So since basically all 3 drivers have still a (small) chance for title as well as 3 manufacturers I was making a mental list of why each of them should deserve/not deserve it:

Ogier

+ Went back to rally-winning speed after not so good last year
+ Stable and using his head most of the time
+ Clearly not as much factory support as Ford claims

- Total sacrifice of whole team for him
- Sweden PS stage (nobody did that before even though rules were same for quite a while)
- Boring that same person wins all the time

Neuville

+ Impressive first half of the season, specially Sardinia
+ Seems that car is a disadvantage on quite a few rallies (FIN, GB friday, tarmac...)
+ Much improved stability and less mistakes compared with last year

- Comes across as least likable person

Tanak

+ Clearly fastest driver+car combination second half of season
+ Most likable
+ some bad luck

- Toyota helps as the car seems to be fastest in second half (even using JML stagetimes as reference)
- did quite a few small or big mistakes as well and was lucky on occasions

--------------------------------------
Personal:
I don't really want Ogier to win cause if he does then in a few years 2018 is remembered as just another season that Ogier won, forgetting the close fight. Out of the other two I have to go with Neuville, cause I rather cheer for the underdog and here as well as quite a few other places 9/10 of the people cheer on Tanak.
Still anyone of those 3 deserves to win.

=======================


Toyota
+ Fastest on just about all surfaces since mid-season
+ Big step in both speed and reliability from last year
- "Unlimited" testing (and lol at their arguments how it's not really "unlimited")

Hyundai
+ Kinda deserve it after loosing it last year mostly on reliability
- Didn't invest time and money for tarmac even though there were signs already a year ago that it was a problem, Neuville+Sordo speed in Corsica and Germany this year relative to last year is telling. (Also they saw this in Corsica and still didn't do anything for Germany)
- Still keep on coming to rallies without good setup (GB friday this year), last year that was common occurrence
- Still no sign of improvement in Finland after how many years?

MSport
+ Can fight in top with seemingly low budget and "weaker" 2nd+3rd driver
- Using all resources on Ogier
- The at times ridiculous use of any small thing to force even the tiniest advantage, Finland Friday and Sunday best examples. They dropped Evans and Sunninen just so that Ogier runs 6th instead of 5th on the road

----------------
Personal:
For me Toyota deserves the manu title, if Hyundai wins it it's ok, but don't feel the need to cheer on them. If MSport wins (extremely unlikely) I'd be quite disappointed. Only thing I am afraid of is that Toyota starts to dominate like Citroen/VW did.

Good stuff... I would go for Ogier actually, mainly because i see the Fiesta the least developed car and the team deserve a title. And by saying that, M-Sport and Malcom did an amazing job staying up there after the lack of Ford involvement, hence they deserve more than Neuville and Tanak (Toyota will get the manufacture title, it's almost cast in stone).

Rally Power
17th November 2018, 19:11
it can be in calendar but not the final round. Wales would have been much better for example.

Spot on; it’s a waste to end the year with so few local people spectacting and the vast majory of WRC audience sleeping! Wales GB should be the season finale.

EstWRC
17th November 2018, 19:12
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsOnZLpV4AAmty1.jpg:small

AnttiL
17th November 2018, 19:14
Remember Australia last year? It started to rain mid-stage and the last cars were a minute and a half slower than the first ones. One stage also got cancelled because the road was so destroyed. This could become an interesting day...

Also, there's 84 km of stages today which is roughly double the amount rallies usually have on Sundays.

EstWRC
17th November 2018, 19:16
so you wanna say Ott will get screwed again by the rally god?

haha

OnlyRally
17th November 2018, 19:20
But Neu allready said stated that the rally god is Belgian :D

stefanvv
17th November 2018, 19:21
Good stuff...

Pure gold:D:D:D

stefanvv
17th November 2018, 19:22
But Neu allready said stated that the rally god is Belgian :D

Nooo, he's American (Ken Block), din't You know that?

EstWRC
17th November 2018, 19:22
pfuuhhh, not serious at all just shown on ALLLIVE, just some places more wet

KKS
17th November 2018, 19:25
And it starts! Looking forward for a battle!

Oliverk
17th November 2018, 19:26
Looks pretty bad.

Rally Power
17th November 2018, 19:27
Apparently these assholes have been identified ;
https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/police-identify-daredevil-rally-australia-spectators/3215393/

Didn’t follow last night coverage; that moment was seen on all live? Was it commentated or did they forget to mention it, just like in the tractor case?

Btw, still hoping for some last leg drama, and all 3 fighting for the title on the PS!

KKS
17th November 2018, 19:27
pfuuhhh, not serious at all just shown on ALLLIVE, just some places more wet
yep
first minute of Serderidis show 2-3 very dangerous places already!

mknight
17th November 2018, 19:28
Breen will catch him

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17th November 2018, 19:28
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KKS
17th November 2018, 19:31
Craig nearly caught up on one slippy corner

Päss1928
17th November 2018, 19:31
Breen will catch him

A ditch will catch him first.

Rallyper
17th November 2018, 19:32
Let´s wait for next victim... There´s gonna be one or another...

AnttiL
17th November 2018, 19:34
Didn’t follow last night coverage; that moment was seen on all live? Was it commentated or did they forget to mention it, just like in the tractor case?

Btw, still hoping for some last leg drama, and all 3 fighting for the title on the PS!

Yes. George Donaldson was guest co-host and he said like "holy cow that didn't look good". Becs was dead silent and just proceeded onto talking about something else. Must be a WRC promoter policy not to talk about nasty sides of rallying.

AnttiL
17th November 2018, 19:34
Serderidis drove like in a blind rally

EstWRC
17th November 2018, 19:34
the first part of the stage is quite bad but not so bad further on

SUninen actually on quite dry part now

er88
17th November 2018, 19:36
Could be some carnage, some very tricky places

mknight
17th November 2018, 19:38
Neuville slides in same corner as Suninen.

KKS
17th November 2018, 19:38
Neuville and Suninen went into a bank at same corner

Rallyper
17th November 2018, 19:38
ooohhhh!! Neuville almost stuck...

Allez Andruet
17th November 2018, 19:38
Holy shit that looks slippery

deephouse
17th November 2018, 19:39
His mistakes are now ridicoulus...

Päss1928
17th November 2018, 19:39
So if you go faster than Serderidis on some section, you go out. His words.

mknight
17th November 2018, 19:39
His mistakes are now ridicoulus...

He has no other option that to try to catch Evans. So it's crash or get him...

Rallyper
17th November 2018, 19:39
His mistakes are now ridicoulus...

Not under these circumstances.

mufcAleksi
17th November 2018, 19:40
And he lost 2 and a half minutes to Breen hahah

T16
17th November 2018, 19:40
Certainly not as predictable as it seemed yesterday...

steve.mandzij
17th November 2018, 19:42
His mistakes are now ridicoulus...He's the least deserving of the title because of how silly his cracking under pressure is. he can't make those mistakes

EstWRC
17th November 2018, 19:43
Neuville get a lot back from Evans here i reckon

Allez Andruet
17th November 2018, 19:43
Come on Seb!

T16
17th November 2018, 19:45
I'm sure I heard Ogier tell Ingrassia to change a note as they slid a little on the Neuville corner.