[ERC] Rally Liepāja 2018 [Archive]

Jarek Z

1st October 2018, 08:40

Tibor Érdi will switch from Mitsubishi Lancer to ŠKODA Fabia R5 in Latvia. It is part of his preparations for 2019:
https://www.fiaerc.com/erc2-champion-erdi-jr-steps-up-with-skoda-fabia-r5/

https://www.fiaerc.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/20180924_085035.jpg

Fast Eddie WRC

1st October 2018, 13:28

This looks like the man to beat in Liepāja !

Nikolay Gryazin storming to a stage win on @teijotalotralli SS7. His average speed on this 24,8 km stage was 139,7 km/h.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoWZtJMWkAAsdTv.jpg:large

pantealex

4th October 2018, 16:10

http://autorally.lv/?l=2&m=21

ERC Entrylist with numbers

http://autorally.lv/?l=2&m=22

Latvia/Local LRC Entrylist

note #50 Antoine L´Estage, Canada
1st time ever for canadien top driver in Europe?

Fast Eddie WRC

6th October 2018, 13:40

In case anyone missed it, U28 contender Chris Ingram had to retire on SS4 of Rally GB after getting stuck in a ditch... :(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DovjxcfXoAA0HzT.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoxYA9mXgAgqINy.jpg

Lousada

6th October 2018, 15:51

note #50 Antoine L´Estage, Canada
1st time ever for canadien top driver in Europe?

No Patrick Richard, multiple Canadian champion at the beginning of the century drove a number of local European rallies and the PWRC in 2002-2003
https://www.ewrc-results.com/profile/1214-patrick-richard/

Tom206wrc

10th October 2018, 14:04

I'm eager to following Oliver Solberg's pace compared to the Junior R2 drivers :bounce:

PLuto

12th October 2018, 11:27

I'm eager to following Oliver Solberg's pace compared to the Junior R2 drivers :bounce:

Dont forget that he is not doing ERC Junior U27, so he should use different rules (tyre limit, fuel etc).

Fast Eddie WRC

12th October 2018, 11:32

It's time for FP...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpTRpjaXoAA92bH.jpg:large

PLuto

12th October 2018, 11:32

Niki Mair-Melnhof and Tibor Erdi dont have ERC priority, so they will not do qualify and will start in first leg after all priority drivers. It looks like that also some cars will be moved to national field only.

PLuto

12th October 2018, 11:33

It is one hour since start and still nobody did FP.

PLuto

12th October 2018, 11:33

Resuts of FP and QS will be here - https://rally-base.com/2018/rally-liepaja-2018/

Fast Eddie WRC

12th October 2018, 12:13

Gryazin fastest in FP1, Ingram 4th, Kreim 7th.

sindroms

12th October 2018, 12:29

GPS tracking - http://gps.autorally.lv/lv/

PLuto

12th October 2018, 12:51

Mattia Vita crashed in FP, there was big delay with towing car out, so not everybody will be able to do FP2

PLuto

12th October 2018, 12:51

4 cars were thrown out of ERC field after scrutineering

Fast Eddie WRC

12th October 2018, 13:30

On QS Gryazin fastest again. Åhlin 2nd, Ingram 3rd, Kreim 6th.

12th October 2018, 13:36

Mares pretty good, seems to be a quick learner. Will be interesting to see what Skoda do with him next year.

olemann

12th October 2018, 19:31

Where can I find all the results from qualification / shakedown

Essaj

12th October 2018, 19:49

Where can I find all the results from qualification / shakedown

Never heard of https://www.ewrc-results.com/shake/45658-rally-liepaja-2018/ ?

olemann

12th October 2018, 20:17

There are more than 21 drivers!!!!, and I have information that Oliver Solberg was not far behind the best time for C4 so why can they not appear. There were over 50 drivers total?

Mirek

12th October 2018, 20:33

These are ERC results. Others run under different rules (fuel, tyres etc.). That's why they can't be mixed into same results.

Only 6 non-ERC drivers did shakedown. Their times are here: http://autorally.lv/?m=41&s=2018&r=165&l=2&ft=6 Oliver's time was 1:41,23 which is 2nd best behind Sesks but You need to take into account that JERC drivers use stock fuel.

eddy707

12th October 2018, 20:38

Does anyone have a full road order list? Can't find it anywhere(or maybe I'm just not seeing it)

olemann

12th October 2018, 20:45

There is no point in a competition if we can not see all the results.

Essaj

12th October 2018, 20:48

These are ERC results. Other run under different rules (fuel, tyres etc.). That's why they can't be mixed into same results.

Only 6 non-ERC drivers did shakedown. Their times are here: http://autorally.lv/?m=41&s=2018&r=165&l=2&ft=6 Oliver's time was 1:41,23 which is 2nd best behind Sesks but You need to take into account that JERC drivers use stock fuel.

...When do you and Pluto learn? Oliver is in LRC because of his age, not because he wants to use different rules. I can guarantee that back when Kalle did Liepaja under LRC he used exactly same type of fuel and tires that ERC drivers use.
And I'm 99% sure that Oliver is doing that also. Oliver is sponsored by Pirelli, do they even have "faster" tire available for him that goes through LRC regulations and they would actually run with Oliver? No.
Pretty sure same goes with Fuel.
Oliver has been equal in pace with Sesks this whole season in Latvia so I don't see any reason why he couldn't do same in Liepaja.

m-ast

12th October 2018, 20:52

4 cars were thrown out of ERC field after scrutineering

It's quite surprising to see so many drivers/teams that don't read the rules

Essaj

12th October 2018, 20:55

Does anyone have a full road order list? Can't find it anywhere(or maybe I'm just not seeing it)

Pretty sure it's this: https://twitter.com/FIAERC/status/1050785753758871554
followed by rest of ERC1 drivers then ERC2 and finally ERC3 and after that comes the national field.

There is no point in a competition if we can not see all the results.

I guess you're interested in Oliver, he is not allowed to drive in ERC because he dosen't have a valid drivers licence. If you want to follow ERC times just use EWRC and if you want to look national times inc. Oliver use Autorally.lv They drive the same stages but in a 2 different rallies so the first ERC day is 1 rally and the 2nd day is a 2nd rally counting towards national points.
You can safely use the times against each other, only difference between ERC vs national times is the road position which might affect the other.

Mirek

12th October 2018, 21:02

...When do you and Pluto learn? Oliver is in LRC because of his age, not because he wants to use different rules. I can guarantee that back when Kalle did Liepaja under LRC he used exactly same type of fuel and tires that ERC drivers use.
And I'm 99% sure that Oliver is doing that also. Oliver is sponsored by Pirelli, do they even have "faster" tire available for him that goes through LRC regulations and they would actually run with Oliver? No.
Pretty sure same goes with Fuel.
Oliver has been equal in pace with Sesks this whole season in Latvia so I don't see any reason why he couldn't do same in Liepaja.

I'm not going to learn anything. He is under different rules and he can use different stuff. That's a fact. I can't verify Your claim so I state a clear fact.

m-ast

12th October 2018, 21:07

I'm not going to learn anything. He is under different rules and he can use different stuff. That's a fact. I can't verify Your claim so I state a clear fact.

Oliver this year is running the FIA event, so it's in the same results as the others, but he can't score points in ERC as he is not registered for them, take a lokk at the start list: http://2018.lvrally.com/upload/files/rallyliepaja2018_startlist_leg1.pdf

olemann

12th October 2018, 21:09

Oliver participates in RC4 and why can not everyone in RC4 appear in RC4 results?

Mirek

12th October 2018, 21:28

Oliver this year is running the FIA event, so it's in the same results as the others, but he can't score points in ERC as he is not registered for them, take a lokk at the start list: http://2018.lvrally.com/upload/files/rallyliepaja2018_startlist_leg1.pdf

RC4 doesn't have same rules as JERC if I'm not mistaken. Of course he can go with same stuff as JERC but there is no way for us to verify it so it's better not to count them together.

Essaj

12th October 2018, 21:38

Oliver participates in RC4 and why can not everyone in RC4 appear in RC4 results?

Like I previously stated that to participate fully in ERC or WRC you need to have a valid drivers licence which Oliver seems not to have.
Just follow the times from different sites. They are fully comparable expect the road position which should not be that big of a difference.

and as as Mirek stated Oliver could be using different rules but he is not.

12th October 2018, 22:20

Qualy stage highlights: https://youtu.be/cmQ3ZLrCwy4

Jarek Z

13th October 2018, 00:41

Qualy stage highlights: https://youtu.be/cmQ3ZLrCwy4

It's pure pleasure to watch Gryazin driving on gravel, isn't it?

Jarek Z

13th October 2018, 00:47

It seems both Ingram and Kreim have lost their belief in themselves when it comes to the Junior Under 28 title.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk1ulI5ODFg&feature=youtu.be

PLuto

13th October 2018, 05:45

Where can I find all the results from qualification / shakedown

Results from qualify - https://rally-base.com/2018/rally-liepaja-2018/?ssGroupId=2
Results from shakedown - https://rally-base.com/2018/rally-liepaja-2018/?ssId=5034&ssGroupId=3

PLuto

13th October 2018, 05:49

Does anyone have a full road order list? Can't find it anywhere(or maybe I'm just not seeing it)

Startingorder for all crews in ERC field - https://rally-base.com/2018/rally-liepaja-2018/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=970

PLuto

13th October 2018, 05:50

There is no point in a competition if we can not see all the results.

This is rule of FIA, international and national field cannot be in one result sheet together.

PLuto

13th October 2018, 05:54

...When do you and Pluto learn? Oliver is in LRC because of his age, not because he wants to use different rules. I can guarantee that back when Kalle did Liepaja under LRC he used exactly same type of fuel and tires that ERC drivers use.
And I'm 99% sure that Oliver is doing that also. Oliver is sponsored by Pirelli, do they even have "faster" tire available for him that goes through LRC regulations and they would actually run with Oliver? No.
Pretty sure same goes with Fuel.
Oliver has been equal in pace with Sesks this whole season in Latvia so I don't see any reason why he couldn't do same in Liepaja.

No, Oliver in in ERC field, but without ERC priority. He didnt registered to the championship, so he is behind and didnt do qualify.

There are different rules for ERC Junior and others. For example, U27 juniors can use max 12 tyres per whole event including free practice and qualify. Oliver can use how many tyres he wants during the event.

I am sure he will be fast, he is fast driver.

PLuto

13th October 2018, 05:56

I guess you're interested in Oliver, he is not allowed to drive in ERC because he dosen't have a valid drivers licence. If you want to follow ERC times just use EWRC and if you want to look national times inc. Oliver use Autorally.lv They drive the same stages but in a 2 different rallies so the first ERC day is 1 rally and the 2nd day is a 2nd rally counting towards national points.
You can safely use the times against each other, only difference between ERC vs national times is the road position which might affect the other.

Oliver is doing in international field, so he will be included also in ERC results, of course. He only cannot score points.

dimviii

13th October 2018, 08:08

It seems both Ingram and Kreim have lost their belief in themselves when it comes to the Junior Under 28 title.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk1ulI5ODFg&feature=youtu.be

i prefere this, instead of saying in interviews that they are going for the win like somebody else

Fast Eddie WRC

13th October 2018, 08:48

U28 battle is the rally battle.

Good SS2 for Ingram just 0.5s slower than Gryazin in 22km ! :)

Fast Eddie WRC

13th October 2018, 09:57

Ingram a bit more cautious but Gryazin blitzed SS3. Now has a 10s lead after the morning loop.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpYMZ5-WwAABIYf.jpg:large

CWJ

13th October 2018, 11:36

U28 battle is the rally battle.
Good SS2 for Ingram just 0.5s slower than Gryazin in 22km ! :)

#1 Gryazin Nikolay - Fedorov Yaroslav
"We had a spin and stopped in the stage. I think the car before us hit a crest, he stopped in the middle. I think we made a mistake in our pacenotes."

Fast Eddie WRC

13th October 2018, 11:38

#1 Gryazin Nikolay - Fedorov Yaroslav
"We had a spin and stopped in the stage. I think the car before us hit a crest, he stopped in the middle. I think we made a mistake in our pacenotes."

(11 - Ingram Chris / Whittock Ross): We spun in the middle and I hit a bank but we pushed it back from sideways. ;)

13th October 2018, 13:44

It seems both Ingram and Kreim have lost their belief in themselves when it comes to the Junior Under 28 title.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk1ulI5ODFg&feature=youtu.be

Just realistic I think. At this point Gryazin is faster and more experienced than either.

Fast Eddie WRC

13th October 2018, 14:20

Morning loop with Ingram hot moment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7-b3F5tdXg

Fast Eddie WRC

13th October 2018, 15:36

Pellier out on the final stage of the day - 208 T16 overheating. :(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpZZcIvW0AE8Wmx.jpg

Fast Eddie WRC

13th October 2018, 15:44

Gryazin with RL tyre off the rim but lost just 0.6s to Ingram !

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpZbgg-XgAEhiR3.jpg

Jarek Z

13th October 2018, 15:47

How do you like Lukyanuk's performance in this rally? :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuKZNHavM3s

13th October 2018, 20:02

Solid day by Gryazin as expected, Chris Ingram consistently best of the rest.

Day one highlights: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JD2TNZCyvMc

Complete SS2 with Kreim, pretty flat out stage, touching 190kph in places: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m8KcmPgU5lE

Fast Eddie WRC

14th October 2018, 10:51

Big moment for @ChrisIngramGB, with half of the car off the road in a ditch. He only drops 4 seconds!
#FIAERC #RallyLiepaja #GotTalentProveIt https://t.co/j1x9Ol16Jl

Fast Eddie WRC

14th October 2018, 11:27

Gryazin still flying...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpdLOBVWkAAMoii.jpg:large

Mirek

14th October 2018, 13:19

What happened to Brynildsen?

Mirek

14th October 2018, 14:03

Oliver Solberg likely out with engine problem. Niki Mayr-Melnhof went off.

sindroms

14th October 2018, 14:38

Kreim close call at SS12 https://twitter.com/ssindroms/status/1051473484088561670?s=19

dimviii

14th October 2018, 15:18

Kreim close call at SS12 https://twitter.com/ssindroms/status/1051473484088561670?s=19

and lost 3rd position from Ahlin

Rally Power

14th October 2018, 15:30

Congrats to Gryazin, his codriver and team for the rally win and the U28 title. We’ve been fairly praising Rovanpera rally achievements but somehow tend to forget that Gryazin is also quite young and hugely talented; fingers crossed for his future. Congrats also to Emma Falcon for getting ERC Ladies trophy.

sindroms

14th October 2018, 15:36

SS12 national class https://twitter.com/ssindroms/status/1051488611546345474?s=19

WUff1

14th October 2018, 16:05

Sorry for Niki Mayr-Melnhof, he did a rather good performance at his first ERC rally. We´ll see more from him next year in ERC.

Fast Eddie WRC

14th October 2018, 16:07

Big congrats to Gryazin, his pace was clearly the best of the U28's this year. He proved himself on both tarmac and gravel. But I think R5 experience over the likes of Ingram and Kreim must also have been a factor.

"Gryazin scored a near perfect score on his way to his championship success, scoring 154 out of a possible 156 points with class wins on Rally Islas Canarias and Barum Czech Rally Zlín followed by two outright ERC wins on PZM Rally Poland and Rally Liepāja."

You cant argue with that !

I'm a bit gutted for Ingram, especially after he started the year brilliantly in the Azores on his R5 debut. But his serious illness in Canaries affected him for 3 months and was nearly impossible to compensate for.

It would've been interesting to see how close he might have been without this...

Jarek Z

14th October 2018, 16:40

Big congrats to Gryazin, his pace was clearly the best of the U28's this year. He proved himself on both tarmac and gravel.

Yes, congratulations to Gryazin on another win in the last few months. He was undoubtedly the best young driver in this year's ERC. Moreover, if I'm doing my maths right, he will also take away the second place in ERC from Bruno Magalhaes.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1925/45297784311_1d65c743e8_c.jpg

sindroms

14th October 2018, 16:49

Sorry for Niki Mayr-Melnhof, he did a rather good performance at his first ERC rally. We´ll see more from him next year in ERC.

He was on of surprise in Rally Liepāja for me. Thumbs up for his driving.

pantealex

14th October 2018, 18:26

Congrats also to Emma Falcon for getting ERC Ladies trophy.

What ?

How is that possible ?

Falcon and Munnings had same points before Latvia and Munnings did win Latvia.

Jarek Z

14th October 2018, 18:39

What ?

How is that possible ?

Falcon and Munnings had same points before Latvia and Munnings did win Latvia.

Yes, but somehow she managed to do it. There is some explanation here, but it doesn't help. The ladies' points system seems too crazy for a man ;)

https://www.fiaerc.com/falcon-beats-munnings-to-erc-ladies-trophy-title/

https://www.fiaerc.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/FalconChamp-e1539528071203.jpg

Micke_VOC

14th October 2018, 18:51

What happened to Brynildsen?

He crashed...some of my friends were there it happend.

sindroms

14th October 2018, 19:33

He crashed...some of my friends were there it happend.

After 4-5 years of silence this bend decided to speak up - https://twitter.com/ssindroms/status/1051547810913546240?s=19

dimviii

14th October 2018, 19:38

wow a hard one roll. Is the crew ok?

bomber21

14th October 2018, 20:29

After 4-5 years of silence this bend decided to speak up - https://twitter.com/ssindroms/status/1051547810913546240?s=19
Sh*t! Very hard crash! :(

Any news about the crew?

Jarek Z

14th October 2018, 21:18

So Gryazin wins Junior ERC U28 and gets 100 000 €. According to the article at https://www.fiaerc.com/day-report-gryazin-scores-a-treble-on-rally-liepaja/ it should cover two ERC rounds next year.

skarderud

14th October 2018, 21:21

Sh*t! Very hard crash! :(

Any news about the crew?Everything ok, according to his Facebook.

Sent fra min SM-G950F via Tapatalk

Essaj

15th October 2018, 02:18

Better view of Brynildsens crash https://youtu.be/igdX2EECwc0?t=217

Fast Eddie WRC

15th October 2018, 10:42

I'm not aware that Ingram has had much support from his family. He said in interview they had some financial trouble themselves.

Chris has done a huge amount of work raising money by finding his own sponsors, such as 11Degrees, CarFinance24/7, Andrews HFH etc.

Micke_VOC

15th October 2018, 20:38

Better view of Brynildsens crash https://youtu.be/igdX2EECwc0?t=217

My friend in blue cap... was some Swedes there !

Fast Eddie WRC

15th October 2018, 22:42

Nice pictures again from Eurosport's coverage of the rally.

BUT the commentator, just awful. Nearly every driver name was mis-pronounced and even the a car, the Fabia, getting called the Skodia !

PLuto

16th October 2018, 10:55

Yes, but somehow she managed to do it. There is some explanation here, but it doesn't help. The ladies' points system seems too crazy for a man ;)

https://www.fiaerc.com/falcon-beats-munnings-to-erc-ladies-trophy-title/

ERC Ladies’ Trophy
ERC promoter Eurosport Events is committed to encouraging the participation of women in motorsport and has revamped the ERC Ladies’ Trophy accordingly. Rather than recognise the achievements of women when competing against other women drivers, to promote gender equality, drivers will score points based on where they appear in the final four- or two-wheel-drive order using a new scoring system. All rounds of the ERC are included in the ERC Ladies’ Trophy with all classes (ERC1, ERC2 and ERC3) eligible. Drivers count their best four scores. The scoring system is as follows: 1 = 100; 2 = 90; 3 = 80; 4 = 75; 5 = 70; 6 = 65; 7 = 60; 8 = 55; 9 = 50; 10 = 45; 11 = 43; 12 = 41; 13 = 39; 14 = 37; 15 = 35; 16 = 33; 17 = 31; 18 = 29; 19 = 27; 20 = 25; 21 = 23; 22 = 21; 23 = 19; 24 = 17; 25 = 15; 26 = 13; 27 = 11; 28 = 9; 29 = 7; 30 = 5; all remaining positions = 1 point.

They have changed system of ladies trophy for this year, it is quite complicated. This change was made mainly because of Tamara Molinaro, who was planning to do ERC with R5, so they were trying some regulations which will allow comparison results of R5 and R2.

faateris

16th October 2018, 19:37

Rally Liepāja 2018' photos - http://janisasaris.com/jaunumi

JA

Micke_VOC

17th October 2018, 16:47

Great video with Brynildsen crash and more..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igdX2EECwc0

Jarek Z

26th October 2018, 20:52

Apparently that Brynildsen’s crash made the news in Norway. Here's a streaming footage of the accident and an interview on VG TV:
https://www.vgtv.no/video/165797/her-gaar-det-galt-for-nordmannen-kom-til-aa-smelle-litt?fbclid=IwAR2f73pBIaHzO-o7XVk5Y6zL78ncBiBOLMjMUXJyXppI7KXx64ey5vBN3-A