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Tarmop
17th February 2019, 13:15
Well, Lappi and odriver got big hugs from Tanak/Järveoja. But T/J only handshaked Neuville.

Not talking about the main stars, TGR also congratulated them on the podium like still their own, both were happy.

Rallyper
17th February 2019, 13:23
Initials only repeted from full names before.

denkimi
17th February 2019, 13:45
Initials only repeted from full names before.
still ridiculous and hard to read. use ott if tanak has to many letters.

Mirek
17th February 2019, 14:05
Did you know some extra, inside, info about not good atmosphere for Lappi in Toyota?
Looking to his mojo in Sweden he still unhappy about everything and showing complete indifference

Lappi probably isn't the easiest guy to work with. AFAIK also in Škoda he never had so friendly relationship with others in the team like Hänninen had.

hari
17th February 2019, 14:58
Some pictures from Sunday: http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_wrc_rallye_schweden_2019.html

http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2019/schweden7/1.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2019/schweden7/5.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2019/schweden7/6.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2019/schweden7/3.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2019/schweden7/2.jpg

doubled1978
17th February 2019, 15:13
Regardless, it is a good result for Lappi. He was a bit unlucky in Monte, so good points here and a decent road position in Mexico next time out.

Fast Eddie WRC
17th February 2019, 15:14
@DMACK_Tyres

Nice to see @OttTanak , who DMACK invested in and brought back into WRC action twice in 2014 and 2016, now lead the @OfficialWRC championship for the first time in his career!


@OttTanak

Thank you very much for the support over the years!
I really appreciate it! 🙌

Fast Eddie WRC
17th February 2019, 15:23
thank you Marcus for entertaining us!!! smile on my face every time i see him at the stage end

It was great having him back one last time to re-kindle great past memories. :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DznCZJ6XcAAT24q.jpg

KKS
17th February 2019, 16:07
Lappi probably isn't the easiest guy to work with. AFAIK also in Škoda he never had so friendly relationship with others in the team like Hänninen had.
So mknight & Tarmop - it's completly Lappi's problem. Tommi wanted Lappi to stay, but EP won't. It not called 'fired'.

Tarmop
17th February 2019, 16:11
Only you were the one talking about fireing somebody if i recall correctly. I only said that he had to choose between a familiar team/ attitude, being no. 3 in the team and maybe not so fine-tuned car (yet), being no.2 to a 6x champ. (huge things to learn etc) a better salary( was also the case if i remember correctly?).

People are different, problems are different etc etc. Who`s perfect? I`m most certainly not...

Morte66
17th February 2019, 16:16
OK, one Meeke fan's analysis...

In the narrow view, a so-so rally. He was beaten by a few drivers who are generally slower than him, and got nothing from the power stage, but sixth is not terrible. A couple of places higher on Friday, better road position on Saturday, he would have had a shot for the podium and the power stage. Instead he drifted away from that battle.

In the bigger picture, it's quite good. Everybody knows this is not his rally, but he got sixth. He brought home manufacturer points when JML didn't, which will no doubt please the team. And how often do you say "Kris Meeke was one of the few drivers not to go off the road"? He's fourth in the championship, with not-terrible road position for Mexico.

Tarmop
17th February 2019, 16:22
Meeke is doing great so far, if he adjusts himself and does something like Tänak in his DMack WRT year (pushing and magnificent times, when it is comfortable), then i see him grabbing good points, a few podiums and even a win or two. Maybe not suitable to be the leading driver, especially considering his age, but being an "everlasting second" is much more than many or most can achieve.

mknight
17th February 2019, 16:30
how often do you say "Kris Meeke was one of the few drivers not to go off the road"?
It's certainly surprising that he was one of the 3 drivers without any snowbank issue, only one stall. Maybe he can finally change. Points also good.

On the other hand he was the driver with biggest speed difference relative to fastest car in the team.(actually to both of them). Even though from the reports he had more test days on snow alone than other teams had for 3 drivers.

Fast Eddie WRC
17th February 2019, 16:31
@RallyingUK

CITROËN TOTAL WRT: With P1 on Rallye Monte-Carlo and P2 on @RallySweden, 2019 is proving to be @CitroenRacing’s most successful start to a season since 2013.

eib1
17th February 2019, 16:38
Tanak`s biggest moment of weekend

https://i.imgur.com/npen5EM.jpg

AL14
17th February 2019, 16:38
Guys Tanak has done more than won the rally imho. He gave us a glimpse of real domination here, the same Loeb, and Ogier after him, have made us accustomed to. If you except the two french I have never seen a driver, not even Neuville or Latvala in his good day, so sure about his skills and dominance over the competition.
Giving that gap in the PS and staying that cool means he has all the means not only to beat others but even himself, which is a very important challenge in WRC, more than others discipline.

On a side note but not less important we are also in front of a new dominance driving style, if with Loeb cleanliness of driving and safeness of corners changed the rally forever, with Tanak we are going to witness a brand new change. Late breaking are a trend again but his monstruous skills allow him to have still full control of the car, clean lines and grip in the exit. And thank god he's not called Sebastien!

Yaris also had a role on this, especially in Sweden where it has always been fast. Let's see in Mexico if they have solved the issues that were limiting their potential last year. It will be fun if they will

Finne
17th February 2019, 16:40
At this stage of the season drivers championship points are completely meaningless. It takes only 2 gravel rallies to neutralize point difference difference between Tänak and Ogier (if we assume equal performance level). At that point of season Ogier or Tänak could have zero points and to have equal chance for championship than if other would have 47 points. Big road position advantage in 8-10 rallies equals 47 points.

WRC should change point system because current level of competition is so tight that articial intervention to competition is not needed.

AL14
17th February 2019, 16:45
At this stage of the season drivers championship points are completely meaningless. It takes only 2 gravel rallies to neutralize point difference difference between Tänak and Ogier (if we assume equal performance level). At that point of season Ogier or Tänak could have zero points and to have equal chance for championship than if other would have 47 points. Big road position advantage in 8-10 rallies equals 47 points.

WRC should change point system because current level of competition is so tight that articial intervention to competition is not needed.

Are you for real?

Tarmop
17th February 2019, 16:51
Jibberish. Has been like that, is like that, will be like that. One needs to overcome the obstacles.

Allez Andruet
17th February 2019, 17:03
At that point of season Ogier or Tänak could have zero points and to have equal chance for championship than if other would have 47 points.

Right... that makes perfect sense for sure.

stefanvv
17th February 2019, 17:37
Guys Tanak has done more than won the rally imho. He gave us a glimpse of real domination here, the same Loeb, and Ogier after him, have made us accustomed to. If you except the two french I have never seen a driver, not even Neuville or Latvala in his good day, so sure about his skills and dominance over the competition.
Giving that gap in the PS and staying that cool means he has all the means not only to beat others but even himself, which is a very important challenge in WRC, more than others discipline.

On a side note but not less important we are also in front of a new dominance driving style, if with Loeb cleanliness of driving and safeness of corners changed the rally forever, with Tanak we are going to witness a brand new change. Late breaking are a trend again but his monstruous skills allow him to have still full control of the car, clean lines and grip in the exit. And thank god he's not called Sebastien!

Yaris also had a role on this, especially in Sweden where it has always been fast. Let's see in Mexico if they have solved the issues that were limiting their potential last year. It will be fun if they will

Good points, but I think not the Yaris itself gives him some more advantage, it's more like his freedom not to be in Ogier's shadow. Undoubtedly the fastest car, it still has some problems to solve with robustness and reliability. Probably in M-Sport he would be equal dominant, which he showed glimpses of in 2017. Let's see, interesting season ahead.

Morte66
17th February 2019, 17:39
Yes, there were some splashes in the second"Super Special" on that horse track.

1736

Mk2 RS2000
17th February 2019, 17:39
whats the beef with hyundai and fast stages, how they cant sorted it

Easiest way to sort is it to Paddon back in the car and let him adjust / re-engineer the steering, suspension and transmission for he does have the engineering knowledge and skills to be able to improve the car

mknight
17th February 2019, 17:52
Imo the best thing about Tänak was how he drove safely after Suninen dropped. Last year in similar situations he kept setting fastest times and then got into issues (GB, Spain).

steve.mandzij
17th February 2019, 18:04
Really, Tanak looked unstoppable this weekend, and impossible to beat. Kudos to Lappi for his awesome result!

As for Latvala, this doesn't look too bright for another year running. Mentally he didn't sound to be in such a terrible place at the stage end interviews and he did set some fastest times during the weekend, but he's got a horrible 30 point difference to Tanak in the championship which I don't see him closing realistically :( it's a shame for him, but Sweden wasn't entirely negative at least. I hope he can take advantage of his road position in Mexico and pull off a 2016.

Rallyper
17th February 2019, 18:19
still ridiculous and hard to read. use ott if tanak has to many letters.

If you can´t read letters and understand what they stand for, being fully visualized a couple of words ahead, well, you should start first class again...

stefanvv
17th February 2019, 18:31
If you can´t read letters and understand what they stand for, being fully visualized a couple of words ahead, well, you should start first class again...

Well, apart from our egoistic wishes, isn't using abbreviations insult for the person in question in first place? How would some driver react if You tell him You're just an abbreviation?

Japé
17th February 2019, 18:56
Media says wrong national anthem was played for Tanak in podium ceremony

cali
17th February 2019, 18:59
Media says wrong national anthem was played for Tanak in podium ceremonyTbh I cannot tell the difference between estonian and finnish anthems so I assume it is quite easy for the organizers to play the wrong anthem. Not a really big issue imho

SubaruNorway
17th February 2019, 19:07
My video from Rally Sweden, did not look nice stepping out of the ruts in 6th gear onto the slush!
https://youtu.be/y-dRNYQpQog

EstWRC
17th February 2019, 19:12
My video from Rally Sweden, did not look nice stepping out of the ruts in 6th gear onto the slush!
https://youtu.be/y-dRNYQpQog


just opened my beer when you posted this, right time!

about the anthem, yes they played the finnish one, noticed it right away, but i cant understand how the organizers can pick the wrong one. i mean, they dont chose it by ear, do they? they must have come kind of catalogue with anthems and the country names or smth like that?

eib1
17th February 2019, 20:02
Sesks, Pietarainen and Katsuta offs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM_Cl5wosRQ

tomhlord
17th February 2019, 20:27
Put together my video from Rally Sweden 2019.

Our first visit and this is what you can see with a few days, a small budget and turning up one hour before the stage starts. Some stunning places, what a rally to visit, properly enjoyed it. Made a trip out of it too, visited Oslo and Stockholm, heading home tomorrow. Highly recommended.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnQy458oucY

lnvs
17th February 2019, 20:41
Sesks, Pietarainen and Katsuta offs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM_Cl5wosRQ
"I had a massive impact on the front-left and now the power-steering feels tight. I struggled after that - lost some time."

Meeke was the first who found that rock. (Same as Pietarinen and Katsuta.) He is lucky Toyota has robust rims. :p:

Myrvold
17th February 2019, 21:32
Sesks, Pietarainen and Katsuta offs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM_Cl5wosRQ

Heh, and that Katsuta off,- Mr.Østberg, is why there was three spectators slowing you down towards a blind 5right, straight in to 3left, when there was 20 odd people trying to get Rovanperä out of the ditch. No-one tried to stop you, just slow you down to a safer speed.

Rallyper
17th February 2019, 22:20
Well, apart from our egoistic wishes, isn't using abbreviations insult for the person in question in first place? How would some driver react if You tell him You're just an abbreviation?

Give me a break, "egoistic wishes"? I´m writing on this forum sometimes fast to get through messages instantly, and you together with NOT think it´s humiliating drivers or something? Please grow up. Drivers are men and me too. We can live with shortenings. I did, 40 years on my work.

stefanvv
17th February 2019, 23:15
Give me a break, "egoistic wishes"? I´m writing on this forum sometimes fast to get through messages instantly, and you together with NOT think it´s humiliating drivers or something? Please grow up. Drivers are men and me too. We can live with shortenings. I did, 40 years on my work.

Ah, ok. Everything fine then. You spend less time to write someone's name, than me trying to guess it?!? WTF. The American's culture sucked You in, that's it.

KKS
17th February 2019, 23:16
Sesks, Pietarainen and Katsuta offs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM_Cl5wosRQ
Oh that's why. I thought that Sesks didn't wont to risk everything at last stage for another stage win and took it easy +19sec, same rhythm as Poom. But time bad cuz he crashed... "oi-oi-oi"

EstWRC
18th February 2019, 08:02
nice vid, Lappi moment at 5:40 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqkGVh4Cb-A



Q:
There were a few moments, including a 360 for you yesterday…
TN:
Like I said before, my spin was talent – Esapekka’s was luck – but still I give him a 10, it was stylish too!

EL:
You know what I said to him, I said the talent is to stay away from the banks…

lol

https://www.fia.com/news/wrc-o-tanak-we-survived-no-incident-no-mistake

dbrito26
18th February 2019, 09:09
Anyone have or have seen a picture of the Suninen rollcage after repair?

Enviado do meu Moto E (4) através do Tapatalk

tommeke_B
18th February 2019, 13:54
Back from my sixth visit to Rally Sweden. Fantastic and well organized event, great atmosphere, and unique action. You hardly get used to the speed these guys are doing on the snow/ice. Tänak clearly too strong for competition, he knew what he was doing. We didn't see any big or very sideways moment from him, just neat and tidy driving, but super fast. Behind him a very nice battle, strong performance from nearly all works WRC drivers. Only disappointment for me was Pontus Tidemand, I expected him to be a bit closer to the top. The R5 category was also very interesting to watch. Shame that it's splitted up in WRC2Pro and WRC2, it doesn't add a real value (so far). Actually now Ostberg won WRC2Pro but has very little to celebrate, as he didn't win the R5 category... Top performance from Veiby, also the Polo R5 looks more entertaining than the Fabia R5. Also I'd like to mention the new Fiesta R2, really entertaining car to see, especially with the level of current junior drivers.

Few photos:

https://scontent.fbru1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52467452_2860406713971196_8541474076567273472_o.jp g?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru1-1.fna&oh=8b718a528c91c8e1420d17006630ff1d&oe=5CECA5E3

https://scontent.fbru1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51960787_2860405390637995_5190695876770660352_o.jp g?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru1-1.fna&oh=b3593e11c517c53295f2e4e375010175&oe=5CE1DA27

https://scontent.fbru1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52151382_2860406040637930_7818172017366007808_o.jp g?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru1-1.fna&oh=58885dec531d720ed329d90a9e5296e5&oe=5CE03C45

https://scontent.fbru1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51989699_2860404703971397_4488016150285778944_o.jp g?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru1-1.fna&oh=5ab3e918ad56730982b1f3fb58a248d8&oe=5CF1CEC5

https://scontent.fbru1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52657009_2860404050638129_8794088384877297664_o.jp g?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru1-1.fna&oh=bf1621c7ef8b943c0f24d86da24ec760&oe=5CEB5654

A few more: https://www.facebook.com/pg/rallyimage/photos/?tab=album&album_id=2860403833971484

AL14
18th February 2019, 14:03
Back from my sixth visit to Rally Sweden. Fantastic and well organized event, great atmosphere, and unique action. You hardly get used to the speed these guys are doing on the snow/ice. Tänak clearly too strong for competition, he knew what he was doing. We didn't see any big or very sideways moment from him, just neat and tidy driving, but super fast. Behind him a very nice battle, strong performance from nearly all works WRC drivers. Only disappointment for me was Pontus Tidemand, I expected him to be a bit closer to the top. The R5 category was also very interesting to watch. Shame that it's splitted up in WRC2Pro and WRC2, it doesn't add a real value (so far). Actually now Ostberg won WRC2Pro but has very little to celebrate, as he didn't win the R5 category... Top performance from Veiby, also the Polo R5 looks more entertaining than the Fabia R5. Also I'd like to mention the new Fiesta R2, really entertaining car to see, especially with the level of current junior drivers.

Few photos:
[...]

I agree on all your points and I also like all your pictures.

dimviii
18th February 2019, 14:40
Suninen crash
https://youtu.be/lROYzdE2Oyc

dimviii
18th February 2019, 14:41
Devillers video
https://youtu.be/A-tJJBy3igg

JM video
https://youtu.be/ej5XvNAkzNY

Rally Power
18th February 2019, 15:12
Just saw the highlights. Despite the surprising early lead from Suninen, it seems that Sweden was mostly an amazing show of Tanak and the Yaris. I hope he’ll struggle a bit cleaning the road in Mexico and the competiton can raise their level; otherwise the WRC will probably be entering into another driver/car domination era...

mknight
18th February 2019, 15:24
Just saw the highlights. Despite the surprising early lead from Suninen, it seems that Sweden was mostly an amazing show of Tanak and the Yaris. I hope he’ll struggle a bit cleaning the road in Mexico and the competiton can raise their level; otherwise the WRC will probably be entering into another driver/car domination era...

Well I said so many times last year to all the Toyota cheering fans. Be careful what you wish for. 2003-2004 were close with many manufacturers as well and then it went to Citroen domination + 2 manus only within a few years. (but I also wrote a lot about Hyundai domination in first half of 2017 which luckily didn't happen)
That said everyone was expecting Toyota to dominate here last year but it did not happen due to conditions and road position, so maybe they would have been as good then as well.

In terms of competition I think Citroen is the most dangerous one. Yaris has always been great in fast stages and I20 in the slow and twisty ones, but C3 looks more and more like it can keep up with each of them on both types of stages. MSport obviously doesn't have the drivers to compete for championships. Hyundai looks more and more like the least allround car with list of stages/rallies where it is fast getting shorter and shorter.

Rallyper
18th February 2019, 16:17
Ah, ok. Everything fine then. You spend less time to write someone's name, than me trying to guess it?!? WTF. The American's culture sucked You in, that's it.

I spend my time writing about my favourite sport. Not to satify selfnamed teachers.

Rallyper
18th February 2019, 16:37
Here´s my coloured assesment of drivers in 2019 Rally Sweden, scale 1-10:

Ogier: 3. victim of the snowbanks. Big disappointment not only for himself.
Suninen: 4. Fast. But couldn´t handle speed all rally. So the early lead only proved him fast. Still needs to prove consistens.
Lappi: 8. Could have suffered most of all drivers, but got away with it. Podium payed off from his experience.
Meeke: 5. Did what he should do. No offs this year and his confidence still going up.
Tidemand: 3. Hard to say what was the tactics from the beginning. Not as fast as expected. Should fire up in next rally.
Tanak: 10. Just did a perfect job.
Latvala: 4. Too easy mistakes and the podium went away. Should have managed to keep himself on the road.
Neuville: 7. Mistakes make him loose precious time. Still a podium was good work in the end.
Loeb: 6. Second rally in the car. Master did what he was able to.
Mikkelsen: 5. Home event, was fast but did slide too much and couldn´t keep it up till the end.
Evans: 6. Surprisingly fast. But not on all stages.

dupanton
18th February 2019, 16:46
Had a great WRC Sweden, first time for me (but had a great guide in tommeke_b)
Moving pictures of the rally:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOEZf7ht0bY

stefanvv
18th February 2019, 17:23
I spend my time writing about my favourite sport. Not to satify selfnamed teachers.

Teacher?:D Yes I do some teaching, but only in my everyday job. Rallying is just a hobby.

EDIT: And it's not about satisfaction, it's about making it readable. What's the point if no one reads it because doesn't understand it and just ignores it?

dimviii
18th February 2019, 18:09
YV video
https://youtu.be/TOEZf7ht0bY

N.O.T
18th February 2019, 18:19
Back from my sixth visit to Rally Sweden. Fantastic and well organized event, great atmosphere, and unique action. You hardly get used to the speed these guys are doing on the snow/ice. Tänak clearly too strong for competition, he knew what he was doing. We didn't see any big or very sideways moment from him, just neat and tidy driving, but super fast. Behind him a very nice battle, strong performance from nearly all works WRC drivers. Only disappointment for me was Pontus Tidemand, I expected him to be a bit closer to the top. The R5 category was also very interesting to watch. Shame that it's splitted up in WRC2Pro and WRC2, it doesn't add a real value (so far). Actually now Ostberg won WRC2Pro but has very little to celebrate, as he didn't win the R5 category... Top performance from Veiby, also the Polo R5 looks more entertaining than the Fabia R5. Also I'd like to mention the new Fiesta R2, really entertaining car to see, especially with the level of current junior drivers.

Few photos:

https://scontent.fbru1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52467452_2860406713971196_8541474076567273472_o.jp g?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru1-1.fna&oh=8b718a528c91c8e1420d17006630ff1d&oe=5CECA5E3

https://scontent.fbru1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51960787_2860405390637995_5190695876770660352_o.jp g?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru1-1.fna&oh=b3593e11c517c53295f2e4e375010175&oe=5CE1DA27

https://scontent.fbru1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52151382_2860406040637930_7818172017366007808_o.jp g?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru1-1.fna&oh=58885dec531d720ed329d90a9e5296e5&oe=5CE03C45

https://scontent.fbru1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51989699_2860404703971397_4488016150285778944_o.jp g?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru1-1.fna&oh=5ab3e918ad56730982b1f3fb58a248d8&oe=5CF1CEC5

https://scontent.fbru1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52657009_2860404050638129_8794088384877297664_o.jp g?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru1-1.fna&oh=bf1621c7ef8b943c0f24d86da24ec760&oe=5CEB5654

A few more: https://www.facebook.com/pg/rallyimage/photos/?tab=album&album_id=2860403833971484

so you did not cancel your trip over the predictions...

And as usual very mediocre photos... no trees, no fires, no excessive Photoshop and elements... only cars and action, its like you are going to rallies to see the rally... you will never be a pro.

sorry.

Finne
18th February 2019, 21:20
At this stage of the season drivers championship points are completely meaningless. It takes only 2 gravel rallies to neutralize point difference difference between Tänak and Ogier (if we assume equal performance level). At that point of season Ogier or Tänak could have zero points and to have equal chance for championship than if other would have 47 points. Big road position advantage in 8-10 rallies equals 47 points.

WRC should change point system because current level of competition is so tight that articial intervention to competition is not needed.


Are you for real?

You don´t understand how much road position makesw difference in gravel rallies.

When you are third on the road you loose to the leader at least 30 seconds in rally distance on average gravel rally.

When you are second you loose around 20 seconds given similar performance.

So basically during a season Tänak looses to Ogier 30 + 30 + 30 + 30 + 20 +20 + 20 + 20. Maybe in 1-3 rallies conditions will be neutral or bit other way around due to rain or special conditions.

This means that given equal performance Ogier should win Tänak 6-2 in remaining rallies. You can do math whether this advantage is more than their current difference in points.

Finne
18th February 2019, 21:22
Tänak and Toytota might be fracturally faster combo than Ogier and Toyota (however, we need to see more rallies to settle this) In Mexico Ogier is favourite because it might be bogus rally to toyota. Citroen and Ogier, on the other hand, have been very good in Mexico. And Ogier have remarkable road position advantage.

dimviii
18th February 2019, 21:39
Tänak and Toytota might be fracturally faster combo than Ogier and Toyota (however, we need to see more rallies to settle this) In Mexico Ogier is favourite because it might be bogus rally to toyota. Citroen and Ogier, on the other hand, have been very good in Mexico. And Ogier have remarkable road position advantage.

+citroen traditionally powerfull engine at Mexico

Mirek
18th February 2019, 21:54
Had a great WRC Sweden, first time for me (but had a great guide in tommeke_b)
Moving pictures of the rally:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOEZf7ht0bY


YV video
https://youtu.be/TOEZf7ht0bY

Anton, tell Gianni that the video is awesome ;)

dimviii
18th February 2019, 22:12
Anton, tell Gianni that the video is awesome ;)

amazing pass from Veiby at 2,00min

AL14
18th February 2019, 22:58
You don´t understand how much road position makesw difference in gravel rallies.

When you are third on the road you loose to the leader at least 30 seconds in rally distance on average gravel rally.

When you are second you loose around 20 seconds given similar performance.

So basically during a season Tänak looses to Ogier 30 + 30 + 30 + 30 + 20 +20 + 20 + 20. Maybe in 1-3 rallies conditions will be neutral or bit other way around due to rain or special conditions.

This means that given equal performance Ogier should win Tänak 6-2 in remaining rallies. You can do math whether this advantage is more than their current difference in points.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2012/06/homer_lurking.gif

Tarmop
19th February 2019, 07:46
It`s not a written rule, Neuville won Argentina when going first, Tänak led Wales GB after going second and these are just few examples of several. How did Ogier grab his previous titles before, when he had to clean the road on two days in a row no matter what his place was?

E: It wasn`t Argentina, maybe it was Sardegna...and was leading Turkey also.

Rallyper
19th February 2019, 10:04
Had a great WRC Sweden, first time for me (but had a great guide in tommeke_b)
Moving pictures of the rally:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOEZf7ht0bY

Great vid!! And that satisfied face at 4:09 after the show from passing car... :) :)

samzon100
19th February 2019, 19:01
Rally Sweden 14-17.02.2019
SS 3, 6, 11, 14, 16 ja 19

https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/MM-Rally+Sweden+02.19/

Finne
19th February 2019, 21:26
So AL14,

If you disagree so much can you tell us what is your estimation about how much road position generates difference in following rallies between first and third driver (assuming standard conditions):

Mexico:
Finland:
Australia:
Turkey:
Sardinia:
Spain:
Chile:
Argentina:

Tarmop
19th February 2019, 21:36
Who cares? Ofc first on gravel could struggle an mostly does, but we will see what will happen, always have seen and always will see. Ogier in 2017 started first, finished second, only lost to Meeke with many-many place better starting position.
Claiming that points don`t mean anything, is stupid.

Kaps
19th February 2019, 21:42
Rally Sweden 14-17.02.2019
SS 3, 6, 11, 14, 16 ja 19
https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/MM-Rally+Sweden+02.19/
Some very nice pics!
Thanks for sharing samzon100!

AnttiL
20th February 2019, 05:40
It`s not a written rule, Neuville won Argentina when going first, Tänak led Wales GB after going second and these are just few examples of several. How did Ogier grab his previous titles before, when he had to clean the road on two days in a row no matter what his place was?

E: It wasn`t Argentina, maybe it was Sardegna...and was leading Turkey also.

Sardegna 2018. It was raining on day one so first on the road was actually an advantage. Ogier won Portugal 2017 from first on the road and Mexico 2018 from second on the road. Neuville also lead Turkey after day one starting first on the road.

EstWRC
20th February 2019, 05:47
exactly, and Ogier was also second in Mexico 2017 when starting first.

dimviii
20th February 2019, 09:08
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dzx-xPYWkAA6o_J.jpg

MTA
20th February 2019, 19:10
What a rally! : D
It is clearly one of the best Rally Sweden that I have been to.
The pace in all classes is completely insane nowadays.
Some disappointments with drivers but at the same time many as impressive really big.

For example, Mikkelsen who was brutal in all places we saw him.
Latvala is always worth seeing but it was not his rally.

Others who are worth mentioning are Tom Kristiansson who kept his head cool and made everyone else make mistakes.
Really a smart driver I hope we will see a lot more from.
Dennis Rådström who was the fastest but unfortunately made a costly mistake.

Katsuta, who was a little bit everywhere, thinks he was in snowbanks in all places we saw him! ;)

Our photos from the weekend:

Friday:
https://www.facebook.com/pg/rallyfoto.se/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1961307803966383


Saturday:
https://www.facebook.com/pg/rallyfoto.se/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1962795383817625

Sunday:
https://www.facebook.com/pg/rallyfoto.se/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1964234670340363

EstWRC
20th February 2019, 20:11
zeroundersteer video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_IGDN0cbXs

dimviii
22nd February 2019, 17:07
2994/5000
Sweden 2019: "I am satisfied with the work done in Sweden despite seventh place"
February 21, 2019 Cedric Fray 0 comment1901 ViewsFacebookTwitterGoogle PlusRSS Feed



" Hello everyone,



after a few days when I was finally able to cut after a start to the year with the Dakar, the Monte Carlo, the trials of Sweden and the Andros Trophy, I wanted to make a return on this second meeting with the entire Hyundai Motorsport team!



Of course to fight for sixth place throughout the rally did not happen often in my career, and I reassure you I always prefer to play the win, but personally, I think we did a good Rally Sweden with Danos when we take into account all the external elements.





We did not make any mistakes or exit and we did not encounter any technical problems with the car. Performance level, it was difficult during the first passages but in the second laps, we managed to play in front by signing second and third time.



It was six years since we had not put the wheels in Sweden and we discovered the set of specials unlike our opponents who run for three or four years. In addition, the preparation of the rallies has really changed. Today, pilots work a lot of videos from previous years and even those of others! It's new to have access to all the on-board cameras of other pilots.



I never worked the videos before the rallies but only after the recos. Watching the videos of another pilot, with his system of notes, never spoke to me. But this must obviously pay when we see the pace adopted by the 'young' from the first pass. It is almost a typical preparation 'circuit' and they roll to 'by heart'! I am still in the generation of 'improvisation'. This does not detract from their performance, it really rolls very fast in front, but it's just a different approach and preparation than the one I've always known.



Then we had only 200 kilometers of snow tests with the car. It was also our first few kilometers with the i20 WRC Cup in 'land' configuration. I must say that I am really satisfied. The feeling is good, even better than on the asphalt for now. She is well balanced and I feel comfortable driving her. Of course, I would need more running to exploit it fully but the beginnings are promising.



In terms of performance, Thierry proves that she is in the game. We all agree that the Toyota is still a step up in general, especially at the aero level. With the compact chassis of the Yaris, the masses are hyper centered and they have a good base. So we must continue to work to gain even more performance but we do not start very far either.

My next meeting will be the Tour de Corse and a day of asphalt testing is planned in March. It will take maximum advantage of this test to arrive in better conditions than the first two rounds. With Danos, we would like to sign a nice result there!



See you soon,

Seb »

http://www.sebastienloeb.com/suede-2019-je-suis-satisfait-du-travail-accompli-en-suede-malgre-la-septieme-place/

dimviii
22nd February 2019, 17:15
amazing photo

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0A5PzFXQAEgrDH.jpg:large