[WRC] Rally Argentina - 26/29 April 2018

[tc10a]

Ogier correct time: 8:53.5

[jparker]

Wrong tyrechoice for Mikkelsen?

Loosing a lot on ss6.

According to tyre info, he has the same as Neuville

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Lappi with one now !

[dimviii]

So Ogier had an advantage at first pass of stage.

[cali]

Unbelievable really that eWrc is beating the official timing and official live stream.... Unf.... ngbelievable

[mknight]

Both Mikkelsen and Lappi looked like the tire just slid off the rim.

[KKS]

Unbelievable really that eWrc is beating the official timing and official live stream.... Unf.... ngbelievable
data source - same

[KKS]

Both Mikkelsen and Lappi looked like the tire just slid off the rim.
I think it was a hiding bedrock!

[dimviii]

https://scontent.fbru3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31392546_10211624690958174_1970674997068300288_o.j pg?_nc_cat=0&oh=107a195194d34375e83c607e2ec4eb7d&oe=5B535FA7

[jparker]

Ogier "wrong" time is exactly 30 sec more than "correct" time. Penalty maybe?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Unbelievable really that eWrc is beating the official timing and official live stream.... Unf.... ngbelievable

This.

They are STILL questioning Ogier's time, FFS.

[BigWorm]

Ott is running away with this already. The fight for the remaining podium places should be interesting though.

[tc10a]

data source - same

Ewrc had the same "false" time

[Fast Eddie WRC]

ott is running away with this already. The fight for the remaining podium places should be interesting though.

lol :D

[ESTR]

That Anonimo thing is need to end now. 5 months and they deliver ton of shit. Why they jump from Certina??

[BigWorm]

lol :D

...is he not?

[N.O.T]

...is he not?

its very early for such comments.... kid...

[BigWorm]

its very early for such comments.... kid...

Understood granddad.

[KKS]

That Anonimo thing is need to end now. 5 months and they deliver ton of shit. Why they jump from Certina??
funny comment :D

[drive]

internet is very poor in Argentina, remember that from Dakar - could be a factor for such a bad wrclive coverage...

[dimviii]

lolololol


FRI 15:30 - SS6: OGIER'S TIME
We're hearing that Ogier's time is wrong in that stage, and it'll be adjusted soon.

[elmerim]

That Anonimo thing is need to end now. 5 months and they deliver ton of shit. Why they jump from Certina??

Totally, also when Ford changed from Repsol livery to Castrol livery it all went down with the engines :(

[ESTR]

internet is very poor in Argentina, remember that from Dakar - could be a factor for such a bad wrclive coverage...

Monte - we understand it was their first time
Sweden - Snow?
Mexico - middle of nowhere
Corse - 4th month and still bad reception/time glitch
now - another excuse

I wonder what will be in Germany or Spain. Even worse...

[N.O.T]

Monte - we understand it was their first time
Sweden - Snow?
Mexico - middle of nowhere
Corse - 4th month and still bad reception/time glitch
now - another excuse

I wonder what will be in Germany or Spain. Even worse...

why care what fans think if there are retards out there that throw money at them on an untested attempt ?? Most worthless stupid idiots with subscriptions they did it once the announcement was made that they are going to have everything live.... how much of a retard somone has to be to subscribe for a service provided by a team who could not even have A SINGLE year so far without problems delivering just the splits....

[drive]

Monte - we understand it was their first time
Sweden - Snow?
Mexico - middle of nowhere
Corse - 4th month and still bad reception/time glitch
now - another excuse

I wonder what will be in Germany or Spain. Even worse...

I've been in Argentina and internet wise it was like back 10years ... just saying, not trying to defend bad wrclive :)

[SubaruNorway]

I think it was a hiding bedrock!

Or just low pressure trying to get more grip in the sand

[tc10a]

So ewrcs time was just some guess - correct time from ogier SS6 is now officially 8:52.6

[dimviii]

lets see what happens at the long one with the so different tyre choices

[KKS]

Puncture RR for Ogier?

[KKS]

So ewrcs time was just some guess - correct time from ogier SS6 is now officially 8:52.6
Funny to readback some comments here about silly wrc.com )))

[tc10a]

Great helicopter footage of Ogier, gives a good impression of those great stages there

[dimviii]

Ogier 5 sec faster from 1st pass

[ESTR]

What do you expect from that lucky bastard

[KKS]

Tanak really pushing!!! It was a pleasure to watch it!

[BigWorm]

1,2 faster than the first loop.

[mknight]

Tbh I was expecting Ogier to do better this afternoon after the morning pace (even without SS2).

That said Tanak-Neuville-Ogier with Meeke somewhere around is good for the championship.

[EstWRC]

nice stage by Meeke

[KKS]

team orders mood for Lappi. "Drive slow to the finish"

[BigWorm]

Sordo up to third, he's performing well

[dimviii]

Ogier lost 2 positions at this stage

[KKS]

Good stage by Sordo. Huyndai #1 for this rally?

[N.O.T]

Ogier lost 2 positions at this stage

and still complains about starting order despite being hugely lucky on the first stage and he did not lose that much...

Its a pity a driver with his talent to leave a legacy of being the greatest cry baby of all times instead of one of the greatest of all times...

[rp]

Sad to see how Lappi is so disappointed and he really shows it. Should remember that this is his 1st time in Argentina...

[ESTR]

you got that right.

[dimviii]

for NOT
https://twitter.com/davidevansrally/status/989917914034778112

[rp]

for NOT
https://twitter.com/davidevansrally/status/989917914034778112

Official works dog! :)

[N.O.T]

for NOT
https://twitter.com/davidevansrally/status/989917914034778112

it will make a nice soup... poor doggo....

[steve.mandzij]

Welp, gutted for Latvala (how many times have I said that this year?) but Tanak is absolutely flying, so very good for Toyota! The times aren't working for me on the WRC web/app but I suppose this is the closest rally so far this year, isn't it?

I was shocked to see Mikkelsen leading after the second stage, his current position makes more sense.

[Mirek]

I wonder what will be in Germany or Spain. Even worse...

There is pretty bad 4G coverage in Germany, don't You know? :D

[mknight]

I was shocked to see Mikkelsen leading after the second stage, his current position makes more sense.

40s loss due to tire "makes sense" ?

[Lead]

I was shocked to see Mikkelsen leading after the second stage, his current position makes more sense.
He was up to good speed in the morning loop, lost more than a half a minute because of puncture.

[Mirek]

Rovanperä up to second place and getting close to Tidemand.

[T16]

On my PC I have the WRC.com results page open (and eWRC) - a time comes up and it's over 30 secs until the driver finishes on All Live.
That’s not THAT bad is it?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Unfortunately @JariMattiWRC's car has to be retired from the rally and will not restart tomorrow.

The impact on SS3 caused suspension damage, which in turn caused a failure of the engine oil lubrication system. #RallyArgentina #WRC https://t.co/oKCpdpVz7t

[Zeakiwi]

There is pretty bad 4G coverage in Germany, don't You know? :D

Deusche Telekom, Hamburg Port Authority and Nokia- Bell Labs are working on 5G (few seconds or less to download a movie etc)

https://www.cebit.de/en/news-trends/news/hamburg-is-testing-the-new-gateway-to-the-world-19330

[Mirek]

Deusche Telekom, Hamburg Port Authority and Nokia- Bell Labs are working on 5G (few seconds or less to download a movie etc)

https://www.cebit.de/en/news-trends/news/hamburg-is-testing-the-new-gateway-to-the-world-19330

That's nice but I was not joking. Outside of cities internet coverage is pretty bad in Germany, much worse than here in CZ.

[dimviii]

Jari-Matti Latvala
‏
It's frustrating. Sensations were good & the pace as well! In a long corner, I marked a rock at the beginning of it but I didn't saw another one hidden by the shadows in the exit of the corner. We had a big impact. This happens a lot here. Sometimes you are lucky, sometimes not.

[dimviii]

Tanak flying again

[dimviii]

Tanaks earlier spin small clip
https://twitter.com/MundialdeRallys/status/989957600170082304

[EstWRC]

Great day from Tänak! but it will be very hard for him tomorrow if the reports of rain are true.

anyway, big applause for today!

[dimviii]

fastest 1st split from Breen

[dimviii]

Breen 0,7 sec slower midstage

[jparker]

I can hear voices in my head, Tommi talking to Ogier:
Tommi: Do you want to drive Toyota now?
Ogier: Sure, I would love to.
Tommi: Too bad. No car for you, come back in 10 years, maybe .....

[N.O.T]

I can hear voices in my head, Tommi talking to Ogier:
Tommi: Do you want to drive Toyota now?
Ogier: Sure, I would love to.
Tommi: Too bad. No car for you, come back in 10 years, maybe .....

for your condition its normal.... just do not pay attention to them.

[N.O.T]

very interesting first day... lets hope it continues like that.

[mknight]

Obviously congrats to Tanak today. Expected a bit more from Ogier in the afternoon.

Others pretty much as expected in terms of pace given their road positions.. Too bad for Lappi and Mikkelsen tires off rim.

Some different conditions today would be nice imo, as long as they are similar to the whole field.

[jparker]

for your condition its normal.... just do not pay attention to them.

I'm trying very hard, but they keep coming stronger and stronger. Even pills are not helping.

[rp]

Tänak is really good! He said that was forced to change his driving style to suit the Yaris WRC, because it´s totally different than the Fiesta and it seems that it succeeded perfectly...

[jparker]

Tänak is really good! He said that was forced to change his driving style to suit the Yaris WRC, because it´s totally different than the Fiesta and it seems that it succeeded perfectly...

Well, that's what makes rally driver more complete, and valuable. For sure good decision to move to Toyota.

[focus206]

Interesting day. Great drive by Tanak, shame for him for that spin, curious to see his pace tomorrow.
Meeke doing well, Neuville was lost in the first loop but then improved in the second.
Ogier is doing what he's supposed to do, get points when he can't win and take advantage of eventual retirements and problems.
For the championship to get close though, Neuville and Tanak would need a 0 in Ogier's point table.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good close times today but a pity they were so hard to follow with the timing system..

Some great viewing on All Live though.

Excellent job by Tanak but there is still a a lot can happen, especially 2 runs of the 40km stage tomorrow and possible bad weather.

[Andre Oliveira]

Starting order to tomorrow: https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries/44259-ypf-rally-argentina-2018/?leg=2

[Mk2 RS2000]

Could it possible be that the delay in live coverage is a built in planned safety item like happens with some other sports and news programs so that if something untoward like a very bad accident happens they have time to switch to something else and not show what actually happened in live coverage.
As an example should a fatal accident occur should that be in full up to the second live broadcast.

Imagine people sitting at home seeing the car of a family member or friend disappearing over a cliff into a river with the live broadcast of them in the car still running for them and the world to see.
Imagine how you would feel if you had to sit there and watch that.

I know what I felt watching Hayden and John live when they had their accident at the beginning of last season and if you are observant you will have noticed that the delay has been in the system since that event

I think that a delay system is very responsible on any live broadcast.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fair enough I suppose, but when there is live timing and social media it makes for strange viewing being 'ahead' of the action and commentators...

[Mk2 RS2000]

Fair enough I suppose, but when there is live timing and social media it makes for strange viewing being 'ahead' of the action and commentators...

You are not wrong there but when we think about it there usually is a reason for things happening as they do, frustrating as they are.

[N.O.T]

Could it possible be that the delay in live coverage is a built in planned safety item like happens with some other sports and news programs so that if something untoward like a very bad accident happens they have time to switch to something else and not show what actually happened in live coverage.
As an example should a fatal accident occur should that be in full up to the second live broadcast.


no... in rallying no matter how bad the accident you cannot tell if it is fatal or not right away.

[dimviii]

Neuville
"It was perfect management, we did the maximum I think, we drove fast without risking a mistake, then we managed according to the conditions, we had to try to avoid punctures, it was not easy We did not make a mistake, we are 3rd and close to 2nd place, and Toyota, and mainly Tanak, continues in the same vein from Mexico. he is very good and very efficient, he flew during the day, impossible to follow, "Neuville explained to our microphone.

Before adding, about the fog that could make his appearance Saturday: "If there is only a little, we will all be happy.All can collapse in a special, you have to spend a good night Nobody likes to ride in the fog, at the level of the notes it will be necessary to have more information about the distances between the turns .. The fog is different for each driver, because we run every three minutes, so you have to have a stroke of luck. "
https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_neuville-une-gestion-parfaite-de-notre-part-tanak-a-avionne-impossible-de-suivre?id=9904425



Ogier
"I think I can be satisfied, it's a great day for us, we were expecting to suffer, the first stage smiled on us with the dust that slowed down our competitors." The bill would be even more salty tonight. Apart from Tanak, who was on another planet, we are close to the others, he never really surprises me, he is an excellent pilot, very fast, and last year, at Ford cars, we were very close to Most of the time, it's up to him for the time he achieved when he was third on the road, "explained the defending champion at the microphone of our colleague Olivier Gaspard, RTBF's special correspondent in Argentina.

The fog could cloud the cards on Saturday. "A dry road is simpler than in foggy conditions, we will have to go through traps and try to do our best." The goal for Saturday is second place, Tanak seems unreachable. others, including Neuville, and we try to get the best possible position, "added Ogier.
https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_ogier-on-regarde-les-autres-dont-neuville-et-notre-objectif-est-la-2e-place?id=9904493

[psychemedia]

I've been dabbling with some graphical reports of WRC rally data - here's the story so far for Rally Argentina: https://wrcargentina2018.rallydatajunkie.com/

1585

[Mk2 RS2000]

no... in rallying no matter how bad the accident you cannot tell if it is fatal or not right away.

That is why they don't take chances, hence the delay

I think that an in-car camera live broadcasting what happened should something like Henri Toivonen's accident reoccur would even sicken you.
I have attended a road accident where two people were burnt to death, the smell of them burning never leaves you.

[N.O.T]

That is why they don't take chances, hence the delay

I think that an in-car camera live broadcasting what happened should something like Henri Toivonen's accident reoccur would even sicken you.
I have attended a road accident where two people were burnt to death, the smell of them burning never leaves you.

the delay is because they are useless...

there are many ways to cut the feed suddenly in todays era of telecommunications....

[Mk2 RS2000]

there are many ways to cut the feed suddenly in todays era of telecommunications....

Exactly, now you understand why there has to be a minimal delay so to allow for human reaction to understand what is happening and to switch the broadcast feed. I stand to be corrected but my understanding is that here in NZ the broadcasters use a ten second delay.

[T16]

the delay is because they are useless...

there are many ways to cut the feed suddenly in todays era of telecommunications....

I think you’re missing the point, NOT.... the delay is so the organisers can cut the feed after they may have witnessed a bad accident, but before it is broadcast on the world feed.
I imagine they wouldn’t want the images of a car hitting a crowd turning up on everyone’s tv or laptop, should such a distaster ever happen again. Much better that they have a buffer so that they can pull the plug on the coverage, should they need to.

[dimviii]

Heller

https://scontent.fbru3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31432643_1895828300467709_6758350238932206633_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=f352f0b81f0a4fb5d0bd2c9d1f15ffa0&oe=5B55C6C1

[SubaruNorway]

It's better than the Citroen live anyway which is something like 30min delayed

[Franky]

Guys, there's a short delay so that the commentators would have time to react. There's a delay between the camera, plane and the outside broadcast (OB) unit. There's a delay between OB, the satellite and wherever it is "downloaded" for streaming server. Also when watching TV there's a different delay for different service providers (terrestial, cable or over internet). It takes time to process and deliver all of that data. And as mentioned here some TV channels have their own delay for whatever safety reason.

Someone said that the delay started after the fatal accident in Monte Carlo. That's wrong. There was delay already in 2014. I noticed it when following the live maps and power stage. Bouffier crashed out in Germany. Saw him off the road on the maps long before the WRC Plus stream got to that moment.

[EstWRC]

Torstein Eriksen
‏

@TorsteinEriksen
11h11 hours ago
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Exciting to see who made the best pacenotes in the middle section of SS11/15 tomorrow. 30 meters visibility on 1st pass of recce, but 2nd pass was clear. Anyway, who will trust their own notes best if it gets foggy tomorrow! #WRClive

[RaunoK]

I've been dabbling with some graphical reports of WRC rally data - here's the story so far for Rally Argentina: https://wrcargentina2018.rallydatajunkie.com/

1585

Quite cool, but give different color to every driver and paint those grey lines, they're quite difficult to follow.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Given the delay to the All 'Live' pictures, they really need to improve the info and speed of the splits and finish times so that at least it seems live.

I'd then just watch the stream instead of looking for the times elsewhere...

[dimviii]

SAT 08:10 - EYES ON THE SKIES
The weather is mixed to say the least this morning, SS9 is clear and fine but SS10 is blanketed in fog after the 10km mark on the 16km long test

[dimviii]

@Michelin_Sport

#Tyre info - Day 2 Morning: all the #WRC Michelin drivers with 5 MICHELIN LTX Force S5 (Soft)

[Lead]

Tanak starts where he left yesterday.

[EstWRC]

nice and steady start for the day...but the next stages will be the key now

[KKS]

no stage end comments, tnx wrclive for closing rallyradio :monster: #treason

But they finally realise that one split each 10km it's bad idea and now we have 3 splits at 14km stage! It's #victory

[mknight]

Well for excitement case we definitely need some weather now.

Just look on the SS9 results. Pretty much exactly same as standings (only tiny differences are Breen -2, Lappi +1).
Whether it's due to the drivers speed or road position doesn't matter much, cause it certainly isn't exciting.

[AnttiL]

no stage end comments, tnx wrclive for closing rallyradio :monster: #treason

All these three stages are basically on the same path of roads consecutively with no detour so it's impossible to get quickly enough from SS9 end to SS11 end, as they have only two stage end interviewers. And it was always the same in WRC Radio, and they sometimes had stages with no stage end interviews.

Rovanperä was again faster than Tidemand. Almost as fast as Suninen.

[dimviii]

SAT 09:08 - SS10 WEATHER
The predicted fog seems to have rolled in, this is going to be quite a stage! Remember this is a Live TV stage and, of course, this and every stage is on All Live!

SAT 09:12 - SS9 STOPPED
We're hearing SS9 has been stopped.

[Lead]

So is there really a fog at the stage or commentators just talking about it?

[EstWRC]

quite a fog in the stage end

[KKS]

Can't find "Mute Jon Desborough" button on WRCLive :(

[Tauri_J]

So is there really a fog at the stage or commentators just talking about it?

look at your TV lol

[KKS]

All these three stages are basically on the same path of roads consecutively with no detour so it's impossible to get quickly enough from SS9 end to SS11 end, as they have only two stage end interviewers. And it was always the same in WRC Radio, and they sometimes had stages with no stage end interviews.

They can place cameraman at the end of SS09 but not an interviewer?

[Lead]

look at your TV lol

If I had a TV coverage I wouldnt ask would I?

[EstWRC]

there is fog but it seems only like for 5-6km in the end

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke predicted fog and was spot on.

[stefanvv]

The fog seems to move away, late runners will benefit

[EstWRC]

is it? i dont notice it

[stefanvv]

Not much, but it was really bad for the first I think

[EstWRC]

quite moment for Mikkelsen, very lucky there

[er88]

Andreas very rash and erratic

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Whats the point of All Live always showing the O/A positions before all have driven the stage. Just show the STAGE times and the o/a at the end !

[er88]

If anything the weather looks to be getting worse not better

[Tauri_J]

John Desborough is horrible

please just shut up

[jparker]

Disappointed by Mikkelsen, expected more from him.

[EstWRC]

much clearer now at the part where Ogier was just shown

[er88]

If anything the weather looks to be getting worse not betterScrap that, looks clearer for Seb now

[EstWRC]

look at Sordos onboard now, basically clear in some parts where it was very foggy before

[dimviii]

Rally Argentina

SS9 is suspended for the rest of the drivers due to the bad position of car 34 after his incident. Competitors will complete the SS in liaison

[EstWRC]

now more foggy for Neuville now

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Respect to them all doing those speeds in that...

[Augury]

Tänak still blowing everyone away.

[BigWorm]

Blitzing the opposition.

[EstWRC]

Respect to them all doing those speeds in that...

+1

it was scary as hell to watch them, this dudes are so crazy

[stefanvv]

Lappi problem on SS11?

[EstWRC]

didnt notice but the next stage is live already, Lappi losing a lot in second split

[focus206]

Now it's the 40 Km stage... let's hope the usual suspects won't overpush and get in trouble

[KKS]

Lappi in trouble on SS11

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Split-watch overload - 10 split points ! :D

[BigWorm]

Pontus needs to watch out.

[er88]

Rovanpera has killed Pontus

[er88]

Well for excitement case we definitely need some weather now.

Just look on the SS9 results. Pretty much exactly same as standings (only tiny differences are Breen -2, Lappi +1).
Whether it's due to the drivers speed or road position doesn't matter much, cause it certainly isn't exciting.Hardly. Great battle for 2nd on the cards it seems and if things stay the same, it's great for the championship

[AnttiL]

Rovanpera has killed Pontus

Still a long way to go

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mikkelsen slower than Suninen by Split 4.

[KKS]

Suninen should be first at stop-line ahead of Kassimi

[EstWRC]

Evans going quite good on this stage at the moment

[mufcAleksi]

Breen might be stopped

[KKS]

Suninen should be first at stop-line ahead of Kassimi
oh, they run now at 3min intervals

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Where is the coverage of SS11 ?

[KKS]

Breen might be stopped
trying to get out....
and he on a road now

[mufcAleksi]

Breen moving again, probably a puncture, Ogier got past him on the stage

[EstWRC]

everybody losing a lot compared to evans between spli2-split4

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Something going on out there.

[stefanvv]

quite slow 3rd split after Breen

[EstWRC]

Evans will climb up a lot here

[dimviii]

with same rythm at this stage Evans will catch Ogier.

[dimviii]

everybody losing a lot compared to evans between spli2-split4

fog?

[EstWRC]

fog?

yep, first 20km in fog according to Khalid

[KKS]

Breen on 5split - 5 min slower!!!
or it's a 6th split on 5th spot

[ZequeArgentina]

Evans started having memories of last year ?
Yesterday's stages were completely different to today's and tomorrow's, which are last year like ones (or the same)

[BigWorm]

One photographer was disturbingly close to the road, seen on Lappi's camera right now. Looked close to almost hitting him.

[KKS]

http://i.piccy.info/i9/0ab19fe67dfafd2043a9e04e5d9937c4/1524921024/138465/1185642/Lappi_SS11_spectator.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Looks like big shake-up as predicted by Meeke.

[er88]

One photographer looked disturbingly close to the road, seen on Lappi's camera right now. Looked closed to almost hitting him.Saw that, what an idiot. The person not you!

[dimviii]

Meeke very fast 2nd split

[er88]

Jesus Meeke on a charge

[EstWRC]

Mikkelsen has taken quite a lot back, was 23 secs down

[KKS]

Meeke very fast 2nd split
it's a 4th split on 3rd +10sec to Evans

[dimviii]

Breen loosing to Qassimi,seems damage oncar

[er88]

it's a 4th split on 3rd +10sec to EvansYeah just seen that. He's losing 2nd place

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Looks like Ogier must've hit some of the worst fog.

[KKS]

Tanak moves ahead on 5th split. Faster than Evans

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier 'took it easy'... weird.

[jparker]

Looks like Ogier must've hit some of the worst fog.

Yes of course, fog is following his car only.

[rp]

Yes of course, fog is following his car only.

Really bad luck!

[KKS]

Ogier 'took it easy'... weird.
you believe on it? me not

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yes of course, fog is following his car only.

Mikkelsen Andreas / Jæger Anders): The fog is coming and going, it is down to pure luck as to who is quick and who is not.

[rallyfiend]

the delay is because they are useless...

there are many ways to cut the feed suddenly in todays era of telecommunications....

Name 4 you unknowledgable douche.

[KKS]

superb stage by Neuville

[er88]

Neuville back at it. Great time

[Fast Eddie WRC]

you believe on it? me not

He is scared to complain at all now as people will say he's moaning.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Big damage to Breen's car !

[dimviii]

He is scared to complain at all now as people will say he's moaning.

complain about fog follow his car,or road position?

[KKS]

"Craig how was roll-cage? . It look well, seems like I not try enough!"

)))))

[steve.mandzij]

Big damage to Breen's car !Pictures?

[dimviii]

Pictures?

https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/990220981900898306

[focus206]

Neuville saying he pushed hard and was very lucky at one moment during the stage... still plenty of Kms left, so he better know he already used his joker.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

complain about fog follow his car,or road position?

Anything - like yesterday the reporter had to really press him to say the sweeping was slowing him.

[stefanvv]

Tanak took it safe:D

[jparker]

Tanaka just nailed it. Great stuff. He must slow down a little bit now.

[EstWRC]

yassss....nice morning...he can take it more easily now.

[focus206]

Amazing rally by Tanak so far... I wish the Yaris won't betray him too often, so he can be a title contender.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Strong car
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Db34yupXUAA262b.jpg:large

[stefanvv]

Anything - like yesterday the reporter had to really press him to say the sweeping was slowing him.

Don't bother, he was clearly slow at last rough part of the stage, I'm supposing some suspension damage.

[steve.mandzij]

Quite exciting rally so far! I hope we can see Sordo catch Meeke and Mikkelsen catch Ogier un the standings. Incredible stuff from Tanak, totally untouchable.

[dimviii]

Anything - like yesterday the reporter had to really press him to say the sweeping was slowing him.

he could answer that he was advantaged by the standing dust for the other crews.

[KKS]

Rovanpera on splits move on a WRC2 lead

[AL14]

Poor Ogier, he is afraid to cry now. Let's give him a stuffed animal to get better.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

On the onboards does it look like Ogier is holding his right-hand off the wheel whenever he can, or is this normal ? Could be some injury earlier if the wheel jumped out of his hand ?

[EstWRC]

what a time by Rovanpera, 28 seconds faster than Tidemand!!!

[drive]

he could answer that he was advantaged by the standing dust for the other crews.

mhm, and how come ogier would know that? in an after stage interview? come on, if someone speaks out what he feels like 20 sek after the stage finish how come you can call it moaning???

endless meaningless debate I guess :))

[BigWorm]

Oh Pontus

[drive]

Rovanpera rocks!

[N.O.T]

Name 4 you unknowledgable douche.

1. press the off button on the console
2. change camera view
3. put a general classification chart on screen
4. find a cure for your autism....

[KKS]

mhm, and how come ogier would know that? in an after stage interview? come on, if someone speaks out what he feels like 20 sek after the stage finish how come you can call it moaning???

endless meaningless debate I guess :))
On re-group he know it

[er88]

Would be good for the championship if Mikkelsen could take Ogier. Although question marks over whether Andreas actually has the speed to do that

[N.O.T]

Would be good for the championship if Mikkelsen could take Ogier. Although question marks over whether Andreas actually has the speed to do that

with 3 rallies that due to road position tanak can be a strong candidate by germany we might have a 3 way championship battle... but that requires Neuville and Tanak not to mess up....

[focus206]

but that requires Neuville and Tanak not to mess up....

I'm afraid they probably will, at some point. I think that a close battle for the title will require 1 or 2 DNFs by Ogier

[KKS]

Breen - retire. Roll-cage damaged

[rallyfiend]

1. press the off button on the console
2. change camera view
3. put a general classification chart on screen
4. find a cure for your autism....

And all of those are completely useless at avoiding broadcasting a catastrophic event.

[N.O.T]

And all of those are completely useless at avoiding broadcasting a catastrophic event.

then all broadcasting of motorsport should not be allowed...

LOL...

[dimviii]

Michelin Motorsport
#Tyre info - Day 2 afternoon: All Michelin #WRC drivers with 5 MICHELIN LTX Force S5 except Ogier: 4S+1H and Evans: 6S

[KKS]

Ogier -1.6 on Mikkelsen on 1st split. First time Mikkelesn can push on show all his potential... and he start to lose again. It's a future world champion, without a car? heh

[EstWRC]

Ogier very fast on this stage

[dimviii]

Ogier very fast on this stage

imho is not so fast.Lappi is 5 sec slower from first pass Tanaks winning time.

[EstWRC]

yeap, Neuville now faster than him

[EstWRC]

wtf why did they stop the boradcast?

[Oliverk]

wtf was that cut off from live.

[KKS]

interrupted live for studio? WRCLive r u serious?
#donkeys

[Rallyper]

What? WRC+ is taking a break when all top driver still on stage 13?

[steve.mandzij]

Is the Redbull broadcast for stage 14?

[dimviii]

What? WRC+ is taking a break when all top driver still on stage 13?

yes,and they can find people to pay for this.

[KKS]

No,no,no we don't need rally radio, it too expensive!!! We like to watch rotating map for 9Euros/month

[EstWRC]

Tänak fastest but took it safe i guess because others bettered their runs by 3-5 secs but he did only by 0.2 secs

[Lead]

Ogier -1.6 on Mikkelsen on 1st split. First time Mikkelesn can push on show all his potential... and he start to lose again. It's a future world champion, without a car? heh
For me so far Mikkelsen is the biggest dissapointment in this season. What I mean, his pace or should I say - no pace at all. There have been countless times when he has no presure at all and could go for at least some stage wins, but he is lacking speed tremendously.
In seasons before you would never guess Sordo would best him on gravel or Breen on snow.

I dont know what happaned but he seems to be geting worse...

[SubaruNorway]

They probably had to get the heli to SS14 since It's a live TV stage and it only has 10km radius for onboard transmission, that's what happens when two stages overlapp

[N.O.T]

nobody will push their tyres on these 2 ones...

[KKS]

They probably had to get the heli to SS14 since It's a live TV stage and it only has 10km radius for onboard transmission, that's what happens when two stages overlapp
I think that TV screen make one team (NEP) and they switch from one product to other (Live TV)

[mknight]

For me so far Mikkelsen is the biggest dissapointment in this season. What I mean, his pace or should I say - no pace at all. There have been countless times when he has no presure at all and could go for at least some stage wins, but he is lacking speed tremendously.
In seasons before you would never guess Sordo would best him on gravel or Breen on snow.

I dont know what happaned but he seems to be geting worse...

Yes with the exception of Sweden he is simply slower than last year.

Most visible compared to his teammates. In GB and Australia he had very similar speed to Neuville and clearly faster than Sordo in his first gravel rallies with the car, this year he is so far much worse AFTER he has learned the car? uh.

[Lead]

I'm glad I'm not paying for that WRC+ stuff. The one and only thing that I see that thing useful is watching onboards from previous rallies just to find the best spectating spots when you attend event live. And maybe some day review, but thats it.

[EstWRC]

stage totally clear compared to morning

[Lead]

Yes with the exception of Sweden he is simply slower than last year.
Even in Sweden his style was a little bit chaotic and desparate at some places not what he used to look when he was driving with VW (from my live spectating view at the stages at least).
Seems he has to clear his head or something....

[steve.mandzij]

Is this the stage where Latvala rolled out of the lead in 2016?

[SubaruNorway]

I think that TV screen make one team (NEP) and they switch from one product to other (Live TV)

It's the same team just different commentators. They only have one heli, not so hard to understand :)

[EstWRC]

Evans just 3 secs faster than in the morning, SUninen was 10 secs faster

[EstWRC]

Lappi also 10 secs faster

[KKS]

It's the same team just different commentators. They only have one heli, not so hard to understand :)
When this morning same pare of stage was covered by WRCLive SS9 and SS10 - it was a 20sec switch to studio, announce and SS10 live. Same stages, same team.. but same product.

[steve.mandzij]

Lappi also 10 secs fasterDriving like a maniac!

[EstWRC]

Tänaks morning time still fastest, lets see if he will beat it

[BigWorm]

Ott's time in the fog was still faster than Sordo et al..

[focus206]

Good job by Sordo, on Neuville's times, let's hope he'll bring it to the end. Next stage could shake up a lot.

[EstWRC]

nice powerslide from Ott!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great live action on this one... Tanak especially cool.

[Lead]

Tanak this weekend is on different level than everybody else. I hope he can avoid "his past" and finish it off in style tomorrow.

[ZequeArgentina]

Impressive performance by Ott till now. He had a time costly mistake on SS2, after that just a perfect drive with a total domination as we had not seen before this year.
Ott keep it safe till end of the rally!

Ogier and Neuvielle have to really start worrying much, much more about Ott after this rally than before in the Championship fight!

[dimviii]

lets see how Ogier will run at the long one,as he was slow at first pass.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ive been out... no explanation in regroup of Ogier 'taking it easy' ?

[EstWRC]

lets see how Ogier will run at the long one,as he was slow at first pass.

9 secs faster in second split compared to morning

E: 22 secs faster in split 3

[Allez Andruet]

Is All Live aware that there is a stage going on?

[EstWRC]

https://twitter.com/GustavoBarriaC/status/990287080025665537

[Rallyper]

Is All Live aware that there is a stage going on?

I´m not sure but think they said goodbye for today. AND ONE ULTIMATE STAGE STILL TO GO TODAY???!!!!

[N.O.T]

no split 4 for ogier, lets see if mikkelsen has any speed left to pass him.

[ZequeArgentina]

https://twitter.com/GustavoBarriaC/status/990287080025665537

That´s commitment!!!

[Allez Andruet]

https://twitter.com/GustavoBarriaC/status/990287080025665537

That was an awesome moment. I know it's been said before, but Tänak's been just incredible. Never would've imagined that Tänak would dominate like this when it was announced he was joining TGR.

[N.O.T]

Tanak does in a few events what Latvala failed to do in a year... Latvala must lose his job.

[BigWorm]

I´m not sure but think they said goodbye for today. AND ONE ULTIMATE STAGE STILL TO GO TODAY???!!!!

Surely that was for the WRC+ feature, not all live.

[ZequeArgentina]

Lappi is closing on to Evans and even Mikelssen, we will have a fight tomorrow!

[dimviii]

9 secs faster in second split compared to morning

E: 22 secs faster in split 3

-23 sec overall for Evans.

[Rallyper]

Surely that was for the WRC+ feature, not all live.

Puuuhhhhh. I misunderstood. My bad. Couldn´t possibly think they should exit the show just like that.

[steve.mandzij]

Tanak does in a few events what Latvala failed to do in a year... Latvala must lose his job.Latvala has been very weak this year but last year he did very well. Brand new team, brand new car, and fighting reliability issues he still managed a win on his second rally. Remember the overheating in Mexico and Argentina and the consecutive failures in Poland, Finland and Germany.

[rp]

Tanak does in a few events what Latvala failed to do in a year... Latvala must lose his job.

What you are talking about! Latvala won already his 2nd event with the Yaris WRC and was very good last year...

[BigWorm]

Puuuhhhhh. I misunderstood. My bad. Couldn´t possibly think they should exit the show just like that.

Becs still got her talking to do!