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A FONDO
14th February 2018, 16:41
Haas quicker than everyone :D

https://cdn-6.motorsport.com/images/mgl/6Az5GNw0/s8/f1-haas-f1-livery-unveil-2018-haas-f1-team-2018-livery.jpg

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/haas-first-to-reveal-2018-formula-1-images-1004958/

A FONDO
15th February 2018, 19:20
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWGWT4RX0AANEpG.jpg:large

:(

Nitrodaze
16th February 2018, 09:59
Haas quicker than everyone :D

https://cdn-6.motorsport.com/images/mgl/6Az5GNw0/s8/f1-haas-f1-livery-unveil-2018-haas-f1-team-2018-livery.jpg

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/haas-first-to-reveal-2018-formula-1-images-1004958/

I like this new livery of HAAS. It brings in hints of Ferrari red. Cool

Nitrodaze
16th February 2018, 10:03
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWGWT4RX0AANEpG.jpg:large

:(

The lines of this Williams is awesome. It seem to have a long wheelbase like the Mercedes, but the profile is really aggressive. I hope it goes as well as it looks.

Zico
16th February 2018, 10:44
+1

For me, the Williams looks fantastic. The HAAS only so so..

Starter
16th February 2018, 13:46
They're all ugly with the halo.

Firstgear
16th February 2018, 14:51
I thought the shark fin (or whatever it's called) was supposed to be gone this year. Why does the Williams still have most of its fin?

mr_swiss
16th February 2018, 16:09
I thought the shark fin (or whatever it's called) was supposed to be gone this year. Why does the Williams still have most of its fin?

Same with the Haas, it's just in black and harder to see

Nitrodaze
16th February 2018, 21:07
Same with the Haas, it's just in black and harder to see

I suspected most teams would have some version of a mini fin as there was some noises for retaining the fin last year. I think this is going to be a discussion point at Melbourne Australia.

A FONDO
19th February 2018, 09:57
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWYz6oNWAAA_gnh.jpg:large

Nitrodaze
19th February 2018, 11:19
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWYz6oNWAAA_gnh.jpg:large


WOW I LIKE

Chances are they would not keep this livery all season long. Nobody told Danny Ric and Max about the livery changes before they made their helmets.

The Black Knight
19th February 2018, 12:16
I really don’t mind the halo. I think peope are making way too big a deal over it. We have known a canopy or halo has been coming for years. Now that it is here, it is here to stay until something better comes along, so there is zero point complaining about it. I watch F1 primarily for the racing not the aesthetics. If we see a tire fly at a drivers head get deflected and save their life then we’ll be quickly praising the FIA for the great initiative they took against strong opposition.

RBR’s livery looks amazing. I wish this was their permanent livery. Kind of like the camouflage livery they launched with a couple of years ago. That was awesome. I have never found their regular livery very interesting.

A FONDO
19th February 2018, 12:21
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWZWm6DWkAAC6Qu.jpg:large

gm99
19th February 2018, 15:27
The new cars kind of remind me of this:

mr_swiss
19th February 2018, 15:35
The new cars kind of remind me of this:

As long as it doesn't flip it's not a flop

Nitrodaze
19th February 2018, 17:31
The new cars kind of remind me of this:

LOL

We will get use to the halo by Abu Dhabi, l am sure. But yes, it does look like an after thought

Tazio
20th February 2018, 01:47
WOW I LIKE

Chances are they would not keep this livery all season long. Nobody told Danny Ric and Max about the livery changes before they made their helmets.
I'm pretty sure this is just a launch livery


The car's special edition livery is not expected to last long, with Red Bull saying their 'race-ready' livery will be unveiled in Barcelona next week.

t's not the first time the team have launched with a distinctively different look - back in 2015 the RB11 was launched with the black and white 'camobull' paint job.


018/2/red-bull-2018-car-livery-rb14-special.html (https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/headlines/2018/2/red-bull-2018-car-livery-rb14-special.html)

Nitrodaze
20th February 2018, 09:29
I'm pretty sure this is just a launch livery

018/2/red-bull-2018-car-livery-rb14-special.html (https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/headlines/2018/2/red-bull-2018-car-livery-rb14-special.html)

That would be a shame, as the normal Redbull livery of yellow and red has become too familiar and boring. Which was why the blue and silver livery of the Torro Rosso was exiting and was one of the best livery on the grid last year. I have found the livery of the Redbulll of the last few years very boring, only saved by the intricate beauty if the shape of the chassis. I can almost guess what the Redbull livery of 2019 would look like.

A FONDO
20th February 2018, 11:49
https://d24ftq11lp1zg6.cloudfront.net/hrs.php/dir/SauberAlfalaunch/image/c749d523fb52f5cdc8e170e9bda8d896-4

https://d24ftq11lp1zg6.cloudfront.net/hrs.php/dir/SauberAlfalaunch/image/6ce28d2fa81bd2099c752b2075dd1269-4

https://d24ftq11lp1zg6.cloudfront.net/hrs.php/dir/SauberAlfalaunch/image/8928cb4e12154dd5e218465835ea1324-4

Hard to tell why they did not go with supersoft tyres

N4D13
20th February 2018, 14:37
Out of the cars we've seen so far, the Sauber is the one I like the least. The livery itself is nice, but the car is shaped like a brick with sidepods.

A FONDO
20th February 2018, 14:53
https://nst.sky.it/immagini/sport/formula1/2018/02/20/738-462/rs18.jpg

http://a1.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2018%2F0220%2Fr330662_1296x518_5% 2D2.jpg&w=920&h=368&scale=crop&cquality=80&location=origin

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Tazio
21st February 2018, 02:00
https://d24ftq11lp1zg6.cloudfront.net/hrs.php/dir/SauberAlfalaunch/image/c749d523fb52f5cdc8e170e9bda8d896-4

https://d24ftq11lp1zg6.cloudfront.net/hrs.php/dir/SauberAlfalaunch/image/6ce28d2fa81bd2099c752b2075dd1269-4

https://d24ftq11lp1zg6.cloudfront.net/hrs.php/dir/SauberAlfalaunch/image/8928cb4e12154dd5e218465835ea1324-4

Hard to tell why they did not go with supersoft tyresSo Sauber gets ALFA marketing alliance. Is Haas next?

A
Maserati-Haas union does make sense. Haas would be able to continue using Ferrari powertrains, since Maserati would likely turn to its corporate cousin the same way Alfa did in its deal with Sauber. Haas cars are already mostly Italian, so the deal would seem like more than mere marketing. Haas would get its first-ever big sponsor, and Maserati would have an easy way back into F1.

https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/9f7aaac6890b8bf490c72d00215b09d3/5B100165/t51.2885-15/e35/27574288_390388364741436_9178914624215449600_n.jpg

truefan72
21st February 2018, 16:35
So far, I love the Renault livery.
I like the Alfa Romeo from the back only (lol sounds dirty)
RBR i suspect is a temp livery and williams looks the same to me. (and yes that's williams in small caps because that is all they deserve)

A FONDO
22nd February 2018, 10:42
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWoyVJGW0AE-82u.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWofnF_WsAA2rp9.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWov8ZVW0AISAWg.jpg:large

Nitrodaze
22nd February 2018, 12:51
The Mercedes looks awesome as usual. I was relieved to see that they have not adopted the raked setup of Ferrari and Redbull. Which means that this W09 is going to be mighty this season. Of course we have to see what the Scuderia Ferrari has up its sleeves at Barcelona. Redbull are quietly confident, more like hopeful, l would say. But it would be great to have a real mixup at the front among Mercedes, Ferrari, Redbull and Mclaren.
But seeing that Mercedes has gone with evolution rather than revolution, l think they would be hard to beat this year. Unless Ferrari has found something in the winter months.

NOW BRING ON MELBOURNE AUSTRALIA!!!!

truefan72
22nd February 2018, 13:19
what i like so far are the very different approaches each team has taken this year, making each car rather unique.
The mercedes does look super tight and well designed. I can't wait for testing to begin.
2018 hype is now finally getting to me.

A FONDO
22nd February 2018, 15:28
beauty

https://d24ftq11lp1zg6.cloudfront.net/hrs.php/dir/ferrarisf71h/image/12963bd0b6a1f9f8b2440efa649eaa2a-4

The Black Knight
22nd February 2018, 16:21
The Mercedes looks absolutely beautiful. I’m a bit torn about the Ferrari. It’s not the thing of beauty I thought it might be. Can’t wait for the season to start now.

Nitrodaze
22nd February 2018, 16:51
beauty

https://d24ftq11lp1zg6.cloudfront.net/hrs.php/dir/ferrarisf71h/image/12963bd0b6a1f9f8b2440efa649eaa2a-4

Sex on wheels

This car is porn

It turns out that Ferrari has gone the Mercedes way with the SF71H. It has a longer wheelbase compared to the SF70 and the rake has gone it seems. Besides those obvious things, it is the most elegant shape than anything else released so far. Obviously very closely matched by the Mercedes.

I think there is something very serious, even sombre about this Ferrari. I get a distinct feeling that this car is in the mood to race hard.

I think we are set for a cracking season. Every car launched so far, seem to have made noticeable steps forward. The Williams was very striking and eagerly awaited to see what that car can do. But the potential new sharp end of the grid is shaping to include a closer Redbull and an emancipated Mclaren.

Nitrodaze
22nd February 2018, 19:23
https://d24ftq11lp1zg6.cloudfront.net/hrs.php/dir/SauberAlfalaunch/image/c749d523fb52f5cdc8e170e9bda8d896-4

https://d24ftq11lp1zg6.cloudfront.net/hrs.php/dir/SauberAlfalaunch/image/6ce28d2fa81bd2099c752b2075dd1269-4

https://d24ftq11lp1zg6.cloudfront.net/hrs.php/dir/SauberAlfalaunch/image/8928cb4e12154dd5e218465835ea1324-4

Hard to tell why they did not go with supersoft tyres

I agree, the red supersoft would have complimented the design perfectly. But l have to say, this is a truly beautiful Sauber. I think the best Sauber design ever actually. I am sure someone would prove me wrong shortly. l love it. It certainly is one of the top three livery on the grid. And that is not an easy statement to make with the total make over of all the cars we have seen so far.

truefan72
22nd February 2018, 23:12
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/red-bull-manipuliert-rb14-fotos-retuschen-photoshop-6183803.html

Red Bull up to their old tricks. Manipulating pictures to hid elements of their new car. SMH
It's not as if their car is the leader of the pack that everyone is falling over themselves to copy.

A FONDO
23rd February 2018, 09:00
Mclaren with even less sponsors than Sauber

https://cdn-8.motorsport.com/images/mgl/6DB7Qj72/s8/f1-mclaren-mcl33-launch-2018-mclaren-mcl33.jpg

https://cdn-6.motorsport.com/images/mgl/6zlNOLl2/s8/f1-mclaren-mcl33-launch-2018-mclaren-mcl33.jpg

N4D13
23rd February 2018, 09:49
I was quite hyped about this season's McLaren, but I'm disappointed. I guess the black had to go after Honda left, but this season's livery is a bit of a disappointment to me. Last year's was striking, but this year's is rather lame.

I'm loving this year's Merc, BTW.

A FONDO
23rd February 2018, 10:49
It depends a lot on the lightning and post-processing. Will compare them again very soon in Spanish testing.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWte98eWkAEyG8H.jpg:large

truefan72
23rd February 2018, 12:06
well the papaya orange looks great in natural light.
Very barren in terms of sponsorship and they have already announced a raft of changes on the car by the time they get to Australia.
So i am a bit mixed about the car so far.

Zico
23rd February 2018, 13:27
The McLaren looks ok-ish in Orange, I'm sure it will look at lot better by OZ. The lack of sponsors isn't a nice thing to see though.

OT- Without the Honda money, I wonder if Alonso agreed on a pay cut as part of the deal to go with Renault... or is money really not an issue for Mac?

N4D13
23rd February 2018, 14:38
I am not so sure that the McLaren is lacking sponsors. The livery is completely plain in most places and the sponsors' logos are rather small, so the car looks rather barren. However, when you count how many different logos there are in the car and compare it to Renault, you'll find Macca wins.

I've counted 15 different sponsors on McLaren, whereas in Renault I've only identified 11. So don't be deceived about the apparent emptiness of the McLaren, because it's only that - apparent.

And how many logos are there on the Mercedes? Take away the Mercedes/AMG logos and Petronas' and I'm not sure there's any. (Yeah, they're a manufacturer with very deep pockets, but still.)

Nitrodaze
23rd February 2018, 17:39
It depends a lot on the lightning and post-processing. Will compare them again very soon in Spanish testing.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWte98eWkAEyG8H.jpg:large

My God, they have got it very wrong at Mclaren. All the lighting in the world is not going to help. This is the worst Mclaren livery ever from a team that had a special place of being the style guru for livery. I hope the blue makes the car go faster, but l struggle to warm up to this livery. I like the shade of orange of the main parts of the car. That said the packaging looks very cool and aggressive. The lines of the chassis is one of the best out there. I can see that it may go very well if the Renault engine delivers on it promise to improve this year.

It is interesting to see that they have turned up with a raked chassis this year like the 2017 Redbull and Ferrari. But it seems to have a longer wheelbase which may be taking cues from the Mercedes. It also seems to wrap round the engine tightly, one of the striking aspects of the Mercedes W09 as well. Livery aside, l would be anxious to see this car go in anger at Barcelona.

Nitrodaze
23rd February 2018, 20:43
Actually, l asked my self after l wrote my last post, what did not like about the Mclaren livery? Why did l not like it?

The answer that came to mind was Orange and deep Blue do not seem a harmonious combination. The Orange Mclaren liveries of past years worked well because they were either only orange or a combination or Orange and black which complimented each other very well. The deep blue contrasts the orange like a compromise of two tangential philosophies. The blue just do not have the depth of black . Maybe a lighter metallic blue would have had a better impact. But to be honest, l don't care much about the livery, what l care about is whether this car is fast enough to get Mclaren back into the sharp end of the grid.

If it is doing duel with Redbull, Ferrari and occsionally Mercedes, they can paint the car mauve or purple whatever, l would be happy. I also have a feeling that l might come to like it after a few races into the season. But my first impression was one of pure horror.

A FONDO
23rd February 2018, 21:44
Agree with you mate, total disparity of these two colors. It actually looks like they found that deep blue left behind in grandma's closet and got it for free.

About the other guy - smaller text size sponsors pay much less money you know.

Starter
23rd February 2018, 23:11
There's noting wrong with any of the cars that a sawsall can't fix. The halo has got to go.

Tazio
24th February 2018, 02:21
I think the McLaren looks bad-azzhttps://www.radionz.co.nz/assets/news/109432/eight_col_INdy_car.jpg?1494531444

Nitrodaze
24th February 2018, 07:42
I think the McLaren looks bad-azzhttps://www.radionz.co.nz/assets/news/109432/eight_col_INdy_car.jpg?1494531444

Close up, it does. Alonso would make even a paperbag look badass too

steveaki13
24th February 2018, 08:59
Close up, it does. Alonso would make even a paperbag look badass too

That Indy car looks awesome too :p

Tazio
24th February 2018, 09:51
That Indy car looks awesome too :p;)

A FONDO
26th February 2018, 08:50
So the Haas is not actually white but somewhat pale gray

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DW8TM8lXkAAPdkW.jpg:large

A FONDO
26th February 2018, 11:30
Here they are finally!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DW9UDa3XUAAl2y5.jpg:large

truefan72
26th February 2018, 14:30
too much white on the force india.
Looks worse than last year IMO

The STR looks pretty sharp

All the liveries look decent.
I just wish we had 2 more teams on the grid

Tazio
1st March 2018, 01:21
I made a wager (100USD :dork:) on another forum that McLaren would have a test day in which they drove the most laps, and posted the fastest time!


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXI0STYXUAIIzLr.jpg

N4D13
1st March 2018, 08:16
Tax, what are you going to spend your hundred bucks on?

N. Jones
1st March 2018, 13:39
That Red Bull wing looks kinda funky.

Tazio
1st March 2018, 14:46
Tax, what are you going to spend your hundred bucks on?
I'm thinking I'll get a good bottle of Bordeaux! :champion:

Nitrodaze
2nd March 2018, 17:57
too much white on the force india.
Looks worse than last year IMO

The STR looks pretty sharp

All the liveries look decent.
I just wish we had 2 more teams on the grid

Torro Rosso has always managed to turn up with a better livery than the sister team. Very clever use of red.

Nitrodaze
2nd March 2018, 18:01
I made a wager (100USD :dork:) on another forum that McLaren would have a test day in which they drove the most laps, and posted the fastest time!


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXI0STYXUAIIzLr.jpg

Very encouraging but there are question marks on the Renault engine. Great to see that the engine has ticked the reliability box. On the same tyres, the clarebn is not in the same league as Mercedes and Ferrari it seems. With Redbull having problems, it is difficult tto see how they measure up to the Redbull. Though the signs look promising.

Tazio
3rd March 2018, 07:02
Very encouraging but there are question marks on the Renault engine. Great to see that the engine has ticked the reliability box. On the same tyres, the clarebn is not in the same league as Mercedes and Ferrari it seems. With Redbull having problems, it is difficult tto see how they measure up to the Redbull. Though the signs look promising.That was a forum joke McMan. A little before your time ;)

AndyL
3rd March 2018, 16:34
too much white on the force india.

I quite like the pink and white combination. It looks tasty somehow!

Nitrodaze
4th March 2018, 19:59
That was a forum joke McMan. A little before your time ;)

Touche

Nitrodaze
4th March 2018, 20:03
I made a wager (100USD :dork:) on another forum that McLaren would have a test day in which they drove the most laps, and posted the fastest time!


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXI0STYXUAIIzLr.jpg

It is interesting how the blue on the Mclaren looks lighter from different angle. I am beginning to think this is a car to be best appreciated from close quarters. Hamilton likes it, so l am thinking the pics do not do justice to true quality of the livery.

The orange is just simply beautiful.

Tazio
4th March 2018, 20:17
It is interesting how the blue on the Mclaren looks lighter from different angle. I am beginning to think this is a car to be best appreciated from close quarters. Hamilton likes it, so l am thinking the pics do not do justice to true quality of the livery.

The orange is just simply beautiful.Agreed!

A FONDO
12th March 2018, 17:35
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYFZU3EW0AEVGPV.jpg:large

Nitrodaze
13th March 2018, 11:39
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYFZU3EW0AEVGPV.jpg:small


Very cool buddy :-)

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14th March 2018, 13:43
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