Rally Italia Sardegna 2018

[EstWRC]

Neuville 10 secs slower thanin the morning in the first in split 1

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Verrrrrrrry wet out there... more like Wales GB !

[KKS]

btw where is everybody? theres like 5 of us here today?
it's first rally for me without wrc+ so I'm fully here :)

[wrc2017]

btw where is everybody? theres like 5 of us here today?

no excitement without Meeke

[Fast Eddie WRC]

it's first rally for me without wrc+ so I'm fully here :)

I got Portugal and Sardinia for 1 month subscription.

[EstWRC]

Ogier going for it!!

[N.O.T]

No splits for Ogier...

[EstWRC]

he is 4 secs up on Neuville in spl2

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No splits for Ogier...

There are... -3.9s !

[EstWRC]

Tänak still struggling in slower parts, has held the gap in faster section

[stefanvv]

Doesn't look like Neuville has advantage

[EstWRC]

wow Ogier 15 secs quicker than Neuville in spl3!!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans should like these conditions...

[N.O.T]

Neville probably a spin... or worse

[Eric]

Whats going on with Neuville

[EstWRC]

MIkkelsen with a mistake

[Fast Eddie WRC]

All Live should've shown Neuville if he's had an incident.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans is nowhere. :(

[EstWRC]

Ogier might go into lead with this stage

[N.O.T]

Neuville 1 min slower than his first pass on split 4

[Eric]

Mikkelsen 11 sec behind Ogier!

[Mintexmemory]

Ogier might go into lead with this stage
Not bad for someone ‘off the pace’ - expect to hear slippery mud and shifting fog excuse from the first car through!

[EstWRC]

Lappi going very nicely, second fastest atm

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Was a spin for Neuville.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Allez Ogier ! :champion:

[KKS]

those 2, 3 and 4 on a road looks like from another planet

[EstWRC]

Tänak struggling :(

[N.O.T]

Spin for neuville... could be worse... great rally so far everyones win !!!!

[Eric]

Ogier with a killer stage

[EstWRC]

Ott not happy at all, it seems they havent solved the issue

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I thought it might an Ogier big push this afternoon, but he just seemed to drive his rhythm.

[Mintexmemory]

Ogier with a killer stage

It seems the reports of his non-competitiveness were slightly premature. (ALERT this is British irony)

[EstWRC]

It seems the reports of his non-competitiveness were slightly premature. (ALERT this is British irony)

cmon dude it was just one stage?! where were you when he wasnt on the pace? hiding?


Everybody losing a lot to Ogier in the second part of the stage

[KKS]

Ott not happy at all, it seems they havent solved the issue
center diff issues can't be solved during a rally

[Lead]

Sounds like gearbox problem for Mikkelsen...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

These are the conditions that sort the men from the boys!

This.

[Eric]

Mikkelsen with problems

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier:
SS6 ��️ "I did no mistakes but it's not possible to push, it's super tricky! I've seen the line of Neuville, he hit a bank so he's lucky to have no damage on the car"

No pics from All Live ?

[Eric]

Sounds like gearbox problem for Mikkelsen...

This Hyundai isnt treating him good

[EstWRC]

the master showed again for everyone how it is done!

[KKS]

It's very often when you didn't push you get faster time than you try to get a time

[Mintexmemory]

cmon dude it was just one stage?! where were you when he wasnt on the pace? hiding?


Everybody losing a lot to Ogier in the second part of the stage
If you look back I was sceptical that Mikkelsen was so far better than the rest. Ask yourself why everyone lost time to Ogier. I already said before this stage ‘tyres and notes’ - I forgot to add cojones!

[EstWRC]

and the sun is out now from Breen onboard , lol

[N.O.T]

top 4 within 8.6 seconds... but mikkelsen might be out of contention.

[EstWRC]

any info of the conditions of next stages?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

If you look back I was sceptical that Mikkelsen was so far better than the rest. Ask yourself why everyone lost time to Ogier. I already said before this stage ‘tyres and notes’ - I forgot to add cojones!

Mikkelsen was a different matter altogether, nothing to do with Ogier.

[Lead]

Hope Mikkelsen can solve gearbox issue, could be nice battle between him, Neuville, Ogier and Tanak.

[KKS]

another good stage by Citroen! Good work Pierre!

[EstWRC]

not a bad time by Paddon considering his starting position

[Eric]

Mikkelsens gearbox didnt sound healthy. Suspecting he is out of the game once again due to mechnical issues

[ZequeArgentina]

Experience looks to count in this special, look at Kopecky´s time, he is gaining a lot over everyone else in R5 cars

[TWRC]

another good stage by Citroen! Good work Pierre!
Breen could have potential here, but he is still hampered with the handbrake/stalling issue, Ostberg is totally lost, hopefully he can find something till the end of the rally, he said after the tests that he has problems with the behaviour of the front of the car... We will see. And I don't think Meeke could do much better, only temporarily (until crash/puncture/etc.)...

[dimviii]

what happened to Veiby?

[EstWRC]

what happened to Veiby?

steering arm

[Mintexmemory]

Mikkelsen was a different matter altogether, nothing to do with Ogier.

Indeed one of them regularly ‘breaks’ cars

[EstWRC]

Nandan saying that everything is working for Mikkelsen

[Sulland]

Again Ogier take a Loeb.
He has studied the stages, and have planned on which to do a max attack.

He kills off the opposition by 10-30 sec on some longer stages using this tactic.

[EstWRC]

delay for this stage and it looks bone dry compared to previous

[N.O.T]

Again Ogier take a Loeb.
He has studied the stages, and have planned on which to do a max attack.

He kills off the opposition by 10-30 sec on some longer stages using this tactic.

lol... the stage was wet and neuville tanak and mikkelsen had problems...

wake up...

[EstWRC]

Neuville 4 secs faster than in the morning in spl1

[Mintexmemory]

lol... the stage was wet and neuville tanak and mikkelsen had problems...

wake up...

So why did they have problem, o great oracle?

[N.O.T]

Neuville 3 secs faster than this morning on 1st split.

[N.O.T]

So why did they have problem, o great oracle?

London.... LOOOOOOOOOOOL

[dimviii]

https://scontent.fbru3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/34699804_979671115541146_7681033020114993152_o.jpg ?_nc_cat=0&oh=abb74e44251d53a85f4317512159cac6&oe=5BAB9DCF

[Eric]

Nandan saying that everything is working for Mikkelsen

Seemed like he was lying/not saying everything he knew. Everybody could hear there was some issues with 2. gear. Jaeger also with his head down in the engine on road section. Lets see on the next stage.

[denkimi]

So why did they have problem, o great oracle?
A spin, something i don't know and a faulty gearbox.

Let's see if Ogier can expand his advantage this afternoon.

[dimviii]

Kajto off road retired,Pieniazek off road,and Tempestini retired but dont know the reason.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfLMGRAWsAAbkYg.jpg

[Lead]

Nandan saying that everything is working for Mikkelsen
Something wasnt quite working well.... I guess this stage will answer that question.

[Lead]

Kajto retired
Szcepaniak - former Kubica's co-driver?

[EstWRC]

Ogier going for it again, great afternoon frim him so far

E: horrible afternoon for Ott, a lot of catching to do for him tomorrow

[dimviii]

Szcepaniak - former Kubica's co-driver?

yes
https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/1005095026744090625

[Lead]

According WRC Live Mikkelsen without 2nd gear.

[N.O.T]

seems like this is going to be a Neuville vs Ogier... unless toyota fixes Tanaks car for tomorrow where the stages are quite long.

[EstWRC]

Mikkelsen stopped

[stefanvv]

Nandan saying that everything is working for Mikkelsen

Sure it is

[Lead]

Another mechanical retirement for Mikkelsen. He must feel devastating...

[EstWRC]

seems like this is going to be a Neuville vs Ogier... unless toyota fixes Tanaks car for tomorrow where the stages are quite long.

we will see, he struggled also last year on friday but was way fastest on saturday and he already said today that the tomorrow stages suit the car better.

i dont get why he is struggling so much this afternoon. if he loses another 10 secs with next two stages then it is indeed over for him for the win.

[Eric]

Another mechanical retirement for Mikkelsen. He must feel devastating...

Wonder how his mechanics are feeling. Monte Carlo, Portugal and Italy the guy is out because of technical issues. Good job Hyundai:p

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Suninen started well... go Teemu !

[EstWRC]

what the hell happened to Breen in the end ?

[stefanvv]

what the hell happened to Breen in the end ?

slipped on puddle it seemed

[stefanvv]

Go-go Mr. Suninen

[EstWRC]

Nice Teemu, great time!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No issues with the Fiesta here. Real shame Evans couldnt have had another good rally.

[EstWRC]

the fiestas indeed going very strong in the afternoon and toyotas struggling even more. Hyundai (neuville) the same and Citroen, well....

[EstWRC]

problem for Ogier?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Julian Porter was straight on that issue.

[EstWRC]

nice, Tänak holding the gap luckily

[mknight]

3rd technical retirement for Mikkelsen out of 7 rallies this year. Must have gotten last years Sordo car.

[lnvs]

Julian Porter was straight on that issue.It was obviously sound from a different car. This time his confusion was spot on though. :D

[Lead]

3rd technical retirement for Mikkelsen out of 7 rallies this year. Must have gotten last years Sordo car.
This season resume for Mikklsen so far: He Vs his Hyundai.
When he is on pace, driver happy = the car breaks;
way behind everybody else, driver frustrated = car survives

What tactics is the best?

[Lead]

Lets see if Tanak can make harder lifes for Neuville and Ogier tomorrow.

[Mintexmemory]

A spin, something i don't know and a faulty gearbox.

Let's see if Ogier can expand his advantage this afternoon.
Ok - thanks for baling NOT out of having to be intelligent for once.
Let me answer my own question. Some spin because they are driving too fast for their skill level, or they have crap notes, or they can’t adjust to less than ideal conditions. In a team where one driver consistently suffers technical problems that others do not you have to question the degree of mechanical sympathy that driver possesses.

[SubaruNorway]

Ok - thanks for baling NOT out of having to be intelligent for once.
Let me answer my own question. Some spin because they are driving too fast for their skill level, or they have crap notes, or they can’t adjust to less than ideal conditions. In a team where one driver consistently suffers technical problems that others do not you have to question the degree of mechanical sympathy that driver possesses.

They spun because the car had no drive anymore, 2nd gear was probably stripped and broke the gearbox in the end.

[EstWRC]

Paddon must go to Citroen and make a restart to his career, he seems so lost in Hyundai and it doesnt seem to get better and FOR ME, it seems he doesnt get enough support from the team, participating only on half the rallies says something already

[Eli]

Paddon must go to Citroen and make a restart to his career, he seems so lost in Hyundai and it doesnt seem to get better and FOR ME, it seems he doesnt get enough support from the team, participating only on half the rallies says something already

But Citroen looks lost as hell, 9th-10th fastest in the stages...not looking too promising...

[EstWRC]

yes, but he is on the same place with Hyundai?


E: ok he has messed with his tyre choice today and thats the main reason

[PLuto]

Paddon must go to Citroen and make a restart to his career, he seems so lost in Hyundai and it doesnt seem to get better and FOR ME, it seems he doesnt get enough support from the team, participating only on half the rallies says something already

This new Hyundai, which was built for Neuville, doesnt suit to Paddons style.

[EstWRC]

but what would be the solution then? they were able to make it suit for Mikkelsen since last rally

[Tarmop]

Well, Mikkelsen led RACC after day 1 also, been leadin in AUS and performed well even more. Now the car broke...go figure.

[denkimi]

This new Hyundai, which was built for Neuville, doesnt suit to Paddons style.
Paddon has been with the hyundai team since 2014, as long as neuville.

The problem is not the car.

[Tarmop]

I believe it was Neuville who did the majority of tetsing and whose wishes were more preferred.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Paddon and Hyundai (NZ) links are too strong and they have a good market there.

He won with them before so its not impossible. But IMO he isnt the same driver since 2017.

[KKS]

What happen to Veiby again on SS8? +56sec

[N.O.T]

lets see... the difference is not big enough and both drivers cannot afford a retirement... Its going to be interesting tomorrow unless something happens on the last stage

[Eric]

Well, Mikkelsen led RACC after day 1 also, been leadin in AUS and performed well even more. Now the car broke...go figure.

what?

[EstWRC]

That damn delay again

[KKS]

Neuville? what happenen there?

[EstWRC]

Tänak fastest in splits, where did that come from now

[N.O.T]

crazy splits... Ogier slower while he was 6 up ?

[KKS]

oh... I really want to post "it's a Tanak chance"... and now

[N.O.T]

ok corrected now... Neuville went for safety.

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen
https://youtu.be/2IcCtieZVqM

[KKS]

crazy splits... Ogier slower while he was 6 up ?
Neuville have "a moment"

[N.O.T]

Neuville was 8 seconds slower than 1st pass... and Ogier did the same time as neuvilles 1st pass

[N.O.T]

5 - Neuville Thierry / Gilsoul Nicolas): I was struggling with the handling at the beginning. I put on a new front-right and rear-left tyre before this stage and I think the height difference between the tyres unsettled it. I think I have lost quite a bit of time.

[KKS]

Neuville was 8 seconds slower than 1st pass... and Ogier did the same time as neuvilles 1st pass
You see later on video why

[Eric]

Oh Tanak

[BigWorm]

Ott out

[EstWRC]

f**k that Yaris



:( :( :(

[SubaruNorway]

5 - Neuville Thierry / Gilsoul Nicolas): I was struggling with the handling at the beginning. I put on a new front-right and rear-left tyre before this stage and I think the height difference between the tyres unsettled it. I think I have lost quite a bit of time.

Need to add in the ditch a few times, lost the rear wing and overshoot to that

[dimviii]

https://nsa39.casimages.com/img/2018/06/08/180608065848933594.jpg

[rallyfiend]

Tanak the fool.

That's the same piece of road they used for Shakedown.

So he's been over that jump twice in recce and 4 times in Shakedown....

[dimviii]

f**k that Yaris



:( :( :(

cooling damage after hard landing they quote.

[N.O.T]

tanak out....

[EstWRC]

Tanak the fool.

That's the same piece of road they used for Shakedown.

So he's been over that jump twice in recce and 4 times in Shakedown....

wtf? he must cruise over the jumps?

Neuville was much harder over that jump and nothing happened. That Yaris cooling is just so wrong..

[N.O.T]

the driving is over now... pity.

[spiderem]

oups Tanak... Is it too early to say that the championship will now be a 2 horses race?

[RaunoK]

Tanak the fool.

That's the same piece of road they used for Shakedown.

So he's been over that jump twice in recce and 4 times in Shakedown....

Perhaps Toyota the weak instead?

[Allez Andruet]

Tommi! Do something! Shame for Tänak, it seemed (again) that the Yaris broke down ridiculously easy.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfLxLvpW4AIM7fC.jpg

[Allez Andruet]

It's really a shame that Ott is losing the battle for the title due to these kind of things.

[EstWRC]

at least i hope he can continue this time


and i have never seen Martin so angry, he is very calm always but got properly angry this time.

[BigWorm]

Suninen out too - off road

[EstWRC]

It's really a shame that Ott is losing the battle for the title due to these kind of things.

Mexico, Portugal, Sardegna :(

huge amount of points lost

[steve.mandzij]

Slow and steady finally working for Latvala, into the podium!

[N.O.T]

That is what happens when you hire a failed group N team manger to manage a professional team...

village team of worthless nobodies.

[wrc2017]

is it possible to sack Toyota?

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfLzHrvXkAA37se.jpg

[macebig]

Come on, Teemu. Ford needed the points for the Constructors.

[eib1]

too late...

[focus206]

Excellent day for Ogier, now he's in control. Very difficult for Neuville to catch him if Ogier doesn't run into trouble, but there are 4 x 28 Km stages tomorrow, so things can still happen.
Really a shame for Tanak and Mikkelsen, they deserved a good result...

[wrc2017]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfLzHrvXkAA37se.jpg

hope he hasn't hit a tree... thats a sackable offence.

[SubaruNorway]

wtf? he must cruise over the jumps?

Neuville was much harder over that jump and nothing happened. That Yaris cooling is just so wrong..

Not on purpose, didn't know the rear wing was gone.

[Allez Andruet]

Mexico, Portugal, Sardegna :(

huge amount of points lost

Enough to lose the championship. But he'll be unbeatable in Finland atleast, that's for sure. Not that it'd help that much though...

[rp]

Enough to lose the championship. But he'll be unbeatable in Finland atleast, that's for sure. Not that it'd help that much though...

Lappi, Latvala & Suninen will not let Ott to win so easily and at least one Toyota will retire due to the some problems...

[eib1]

wtf? he must cruise over the jumps?

Neuville was much harder over that jump and nothing happened. That Yaris cooling is just so wrong..

seems that bad luck will always chase Tänak!
just like in Portugal few weeks back..., or in Argentina `15... or in Wales `12...
hope 2019 Yaris will be stronger than current one!

[steve.mandzij]

Enough to lose the championship. But he'll be unbeatable in Finland atleast, that's for sure. Not that it'd help that much though...Latvala utterly dominated Finland in a much worse Yaris before retiring.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

But Tanak chose to leave the Champions. He made his bed....

[KKS]

If things will remain like this tomorrow we can see Mads win a rally, or even Prokop :D

[Mirek]

But Tanak chose to leave the Champions. He made his bed....

As a matter of fact he didn't. He signed Toyota half a year before M-Sport became champions. But otherwise of course, it was his decision to go to Toyota.

[Mirek]

If things will remain like this tomorrow we can see Mads win a rally, or even Prokop :D

Prokop is a nice example of what happens i You take even a not so long brake from WRC. You're utterly lost.

[ESTR]

I don't remember exactly but didn't Wilson said that Tanak is also welcome back. And I think if he wanted he would probably take him right away.

[KKS]

I don't remember exactly but didn't Wilson said that Tanak is also welcome back. And I think if he wanted he would probably take him right away.
If Tanak want to be 2nd Sordo - he would stay at M-Sport. But he want win a championship. In M-Sport he couldn't do that.

[Interesting]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21FuwYxVdX8&feature=youtu.be
tanak: https://youtu.be/lKKgvuThi88

[Tarmop]

In M-Sport he would be driving a no. 2 car, sometimes with not the best and latest upgrades and he wouldn`t be allowed to challenge Ogier atm most definitely. Money ofc is important too, not like you can retire as an earning rallydriver at the age of 70.
Sucks, yes, but never thought after joining Toyota, that he would be so competitive with the Yaris so soon + expected reliability issues. Better than expected imho.

[KKS]

Meet the crew
https://www.facebook.com/RallyItaliaSardegna/videos/1625153604249884/?notif_id=1528479841333973&notif_t=live_video

[Allez Andruet]

Latvala utterly dominated Finland in a much worse Yaris before retiring.
He sure did. Just like he won in Sweden in 2017. But this is 2018 now...

[Sub_Skoda]

So sad for Tänak and Mikkelsen :/ Not a good day for them.

[EstWRC]

But Tanak chose to leave the Champions. He made his bed....

I have always wondered about you, what are you eating or drinking,some posts you talk something sensible but most of the time your posts just leave me mouth open and head scratching

Sad to watch but for those who want see it again https://youtu.be/lKKgvuThi88


Meet the crews

Ogier saying he doesn't like 'motorcross'-jumps in Sardegna. They're stupid and organisers should do something about them. Only thing they do is break cars.

[stefanvv]

I have always wondered about you, what are you eating or drinking,some posts you talk something sensible but most of the time your posts just leave me mouth open and head scratching

There is good movie with Robert De Niro - "The Fan". Recommended, it'll explain a lot, though probably there is subtle difference somewhere.

[dimviii]

Neuville at the jump
https://twitter.com/Karlip1/status/1005141283999047680

[spiderem]

Neuville at the jump
https://twitter.com/Karlip1/status/1005141283999047680

lucky boy

[Rally Power]

Amazing show from Ogier this afternoon. Tanak and Mikkelsen deserved better, so did Suninen. Neuville can't rest with Latvala and Lappi so close and neither can Ogier...hopefully, more great action tomorrow.

[wrc2017]

Amazing show from Ogier this afternoon. Tanak and Mikkelsen deserved better, so did Suninen. Neuville can't rest with Latvala and Lappi so close and neither can Ogier...hopefully, more great action tomorrow.

why do you think Suninnen deserved better?

[denkimi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21FuwYxVdX8&feature=youtu.be
tanak: https://youtu.be/lKKgvuThi88
That shouln't break the car, just like driving over a rock shouln't.
That toyota is really to fragile at the front.

[dimviii]

Ole Christian Veiby

Glad to make it back to service, even with a huge time-loss. It's been challenging after midday service, on SS6 we damaged a wishbone and then the driveshaft went out. But we made it back, and will be fighting again tomorrow! #WRC2 #SkodaMotorsport

[janvanvurpa]

Ogier saying he doesn't like 'motorcross'-jumps in Sardegna. They're stupid and organisers should do something about them. Only thing they do is break cars.

Ogier must have near zero experience with moto-cross and mx jumps...Fortunately I have 20 years experince and I feel sorry for him so I will help him with his misunderstanding...
First not all jumps are taken 100% full gas...especially at very high speeds...

Now in nearly every car there is a big lump in the floor between the other guy--the co-driver (who can remind him of things approaching like mx jumps--a huge aide memoire I never had) and that lump in the floor means there is only one person's foot on the gas pedal: HIS.

This means he alone decides how fast the car goes..and he can do things to prevent damage from stupid things like jumps...and for that matter walls, and cars and trees and the earth itself...
The gas goes down, but it also can come up..
Problem solved...somebody should make sure this message is forwarded to him since he's obviously unaware of the solution..

Or! he could take up circuit racing on ass-fault and be happier...a perfect surface for the perfect man..:rolleyes:

[dimviii]

GHrallymotion video
https://youtu.be/1udX3fH5E-Y

rallyciak video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1udX3fH5E-Y

[Rallyper]

That shouln't break the car, just like driving over a rock shouln't.
That toyota is really to fragile at the front.

So now you are talking as a constructor, or what?

Aaaahh. Maybe you were at the sight judging all damages, as well? Now I understand your quote.

[Tarmop]

Ogier must have near zero experience with moto-cross and mx jumps...Fortunately I have 20 years experince and I feel sorry for him so I will help him with his misunderstanding...
First not all jumps are taken 100% full gas...especially at very high speeds...

Now in nearly every car there is a big lump in the floor between the other guy--the co-driver (who can remind him of things approaching like mx jumps--a huge aide memoire I never had) and that lump in the floor means there is only one person's foot on the gas pedal: HIS.

This means he alone decides how fast the car goes..and he can do things to prevent damage from stupid things like jumps...and for that matter walls, and cars and trees and the earth itself...
The gas goes down, but it also can come up..
Problem solved...somebody should make sure this message is forwarded to him since he's obviously unaware of the solution..

Or! he could take up circuit racing on ass-fault and be happier...a perfect surface for the perfect man..:rolleyes:




Man-made jumps are stupid and that is a fact. They don`t last "mistreating", are usually built under a stupid degree etc.

[EstWRC]

Järveoja

"Regular jump, nothing dramatical about it that we should have retired. The jump was made by organizers and we run through it on shakedown and also this morning, so four passes everything was okay"

"There was a small hole (after the jump) and our underbody protection got stuck in it and it came off the car. Radiator got damaged and the fluid came out"

"We have to make our underbody protection stronger" refering that the same issue was in Portugal.


Ott Tänak (Driver car 8)
“On the final stage of the day we had a bad landing which caused some damage to the car and forced us to stop. The impact caught us by surprise quite a bit because we have driven this section of road four times now, including the shakedown yesterday and the first pass this morning, and I always had the same approach. Therefore it’s difficult to explain why it happened. It’s a tough moment and a big setback. Even though I hadn’t had a perfect feeling with the car today, we were doing OK and we were still in the fight, so it’s a big shame to have to retire from the day with this kind of issue. It makes our title chase really hard now, but we will try to win every other rally from here.”


https://toyotagazooracing.com/release/2018/wrc/rd07-day2.html


video from different angle, at 1:56 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETGpHR8ip4A

[dimviii]

Passats de canto video

https://youtu.be/S24jDevR1GE

[SubaruNorway]

The jump was bad at shakedown too and as more cars go over it the more kick it gets since the angle is too step.
Tanak at 1:17 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me9_qpG5xNI

[dimviii]

video2rallye83
https://youtu.be/Ea73SclpYtQ

[janvanvurpa]

Man-made jumps are stupid and that is a fact. They don`t last "mistreating", are usually built under a stupid degree etc.

Oh I agree 100%.. 20+ years of hitting man made jumps for hours 2 to 4 times a week I know how stupid they are...cost me over 50mm in height from spinal compressions!

But that does not change the simple fact that there IS a simple solution...control the speed hitting them

Man made houses are stupid and a fact and they don't last mistreating either, that's why most of us on SS try to avoid hitting them..

(my main point was basically "fawk me, fawkin Ogier fawkin whining again?? Fawk him..." There, was that clearer?)

[EightGear]

Lets hope we get a real battle between Neuville and Ogier for the rest of the weekend. I can't remember them having a real close battle for the win.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

All I was saying earlier is that this sympathy for Tanak and his 'weak Toyota' is unnecessary.

He took a chance to move from M-Sport and there was no guarantee of a better car at Toyota. He took a risk and its not paid off.

Plus I believe Wilson wouldve treated him fairly and if he was faster than Ogier he would be allowed to fight him for the Title.

[ESTR]

No it's because he is treated like he is the only out there others are not that important.

[focus206]

Lets hope we get a real battle between Neuville and Ogier for the rest of the weekend. I can't remember them having a real close battle for the win.

Hah, now that I think about it, you're right. It's rare to see those 2 in a battle, usually when one is leading, the other is further back. But with 19s of difference, Ogier needs to make a mistake / have some troubles for the battle to take place... unless Thierry starts flying.

[danon]

...Plus I believe Wilson wouldve treated him fairly and if he was faster than Ogier he would be allowed to fight him for the Title.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/b366c576d2139cdafd202dcedfab5a79/tenor.gif?itemid=4630763

[steve.mandzij]

All I was saying earlier is that this sympathy for Tanak and his 'weak Toyota' is unnecessary.

He took a chance to move from M-Sport and there was no guarantee of a better car at Toyota. He took a risk and its not paid off.

Plus I believe Wilson wouldve treated him fairly and if he was faster than Ogier he would be allowed to fight him for the Title.Your tone is almost antagonizing Tanak for leaving your team, as if he's become your enemy for making what you think was a wrong decision. The Yaris is very weak indeed, but it's the drivers' responsibility to adapt as well. If Latvala has so far managed to meld himself to the Yaris, literally anyone can.

This time around though it really was purely bad luck.

[EstWRC]

Yasss. Tänak continues!!! Some good news at least

[EstWRC]

#Tyre info: Day 2 - Morning:

Ostberg/Neuville: 5 Michelin LTX Force S5
Breen/Mikkelsen: 6S
M-Sport/Paddon/Latvala: 4S+1H
Tanak: 3H+2S
Lappi: 5S+1H

#WRC #RallyItaliaSardegna

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans fixed his car, lost time but continued... and gets to open the road. Yet those that didnt get a nice road position.

Good job they are changing this Rally 2 rule next year.

[KKS]

3 hards for Tanak, safe option or what?

[EstWRC]

He will push like hell i guess, i think he has a chance to get into points position

[KKS]

If pushing JML it's like this((( it's over

[EstWRC]

nice time by Tänak with hard tyres

[KKS]

which stage will be live on redbull?

[EstWRC]

two long stages now, lets see if we have some drama or not

[GravelBen]

Evans fixed his car, lost time but continued... and gets to open the road. Yet those that didnt get a nice road position.


Get over it, if it rained like it did yesterday he'd have a pretty good road position.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Get over it, if it rained like it did yesterday he'd have a pretty good road position.

But it didnt and opening the road is usually worse on gravel.

[EstWRC]

But it didnt and opening the road is usually worse on gravel.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/789/439/d8a.jpg

[KKS]

Latvala without 2nd split...

[dimviii]

SAT 10:13 - SS11: MIKKELSEN
More problems for Mikkelsen, we're getting reports of problems for him on this stage.

[KKS]

Leferbve stopped. So Cruising mode for Kopecky for a rest of a rally

[Mirek]

Leferbve stopped. So Cruising mode for Kopecky for a rest of a rally

Honestly I thought it was about to happen.

[dimviii]

Honestly I thought it was about to happen.

do we know the reason? mechanical,or crash?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier showing the rest who's the boss again.

[dimviii]

Honestly I thought it was about to happen.

Citroën Racing

Suspension damages for @SLefebvreRallye and @moreaugabin
#WRC2 #C3R5

[KKS]

Citroën Racing

Suspension damages for @SLefebvreRallye and @moreaugabin
#WRC2 #C3R5
Interesting, did Pierre will concern about Stephan safety?

[Eric]

After Paddons win in 2016 I didnt expect him to be on Ostebrgs level two years later. He need something new to get his career up and going again. Hope to see him in Citroen next year!

[Lead]

Neuville is pushing in this one.

[dimviii]

Sunninen stopped

[KKS]

ah.. A BATTLE!

[KKS]

Mikkelsen with puncture too?

[EstWRC]

Total fail that hard tyre choice for Tänak but doesn’t make a difference anyway

Neuville has been amazing this morning

[dimviii]

we are going to have an interesting 2nd loop,as all drivers reported that the stages will be very rough with plenty of stones.

[HaCo]

Pretty exciting rally for Belgian fans...

[Watson]

It was so strange seeing Ogier wear such a big smile after Neuville took 14 sec out of him. Poker face or is he that confident he can turn it around again?

[bigattack]

Neuville showing Ogier its still game on!

[KKS]

Another great time by Veiby. If things will remain same a rest of a rally it can be P2 for Veiby

[focus206]

Oooh interesting... how did Ogier lose 14 s in the last sage? He was on Neuville's times the first two of this morning. Let's hope they won't have troubles so we can have a battle.

[N.O.T]

well seems that the driving is not over... I think Ogier relaxed a bit too much.

Lets see what the future holds...

[rallye-vid]

Could be Ogier want Neuville to push more and crash

[N.O.T]

Could be Ogier want Neuville to push more and crash

yes like in portugal...

[pantealex]

Total fail that hard tyre choice for Tänak but doesn’t make a difference anyway

Neuville has been amazing this morning

Tänak is saving those soft ones for Sunday, others have to take hard ones. Could be wise tactic ;)

[Eli]

Why the hell aren't they showing us live coverage????

[EstWRC]

Neuville taking further 2 seconds from ogier and the gap just 2.9.

Tänak already up to 11th and probably in 10th with next stage

[AnttiL]

Will Tänak catch Kopecky for 8th place finish and some salvage points? Suninen could also make it to top 10 but the puncture cost him 3 more minutes.

[EstWRC]

Will Tänak catch Kopecky for 8th place finish and some salvage points? Suninen could also make it to top 10 but the puncture cost him 3 more minutes.

That’s his target according to his own words.



#Tyre info: Day 2 - Afternoon:

WRC:
Citroën: 2 Michelin LTX Force S5 + 4 Michelin LTX Force H4
Toyota & M-Sport: 5H
Neuville & Mikkelsen: 5H
Paddon: 3H + 2S

WRC2:
Veiby: 3H + 3S
Kopecki & Tempestini & Loubet: 6H
Ciamin: 3S + 3H

#RallyItaliaSardegna ����#WRC

[focus206]

Gap down to 3 seconds between 1st and 2nd... but if Thierry is overpushing to get those times out, he'll have a hard time getting through the long stages. We'll see, fingers crossed!

[AnttiL]

That’s his target according to his own words.

During the morning loop Kopecky lost like 3 minutes to Tänak, so Tänak could catch him already today

[Integrale]

https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_ogier-ces-bagarres-ca-fait-plaisir-a-tout-le-monde-et-en-particulier-a-tous-mes-amis-belges?id=9940778

https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_neuville-grappiller-quelques-secondes-et-passer-en-tete?id=9940771

Ogier:

Can you explain the time gap in the last stage? "It's difficult to explain, no? I don't know, certainly a bad rhythm. I didn't feel the grip. It felt like it was slippery. I thought I was driving neat and tidy, but we didn't do enough. These conditions, when it's more slippery, are less suitable for me. I was under the impression that we lacked performance in these conditions, but we'll try to do better this afternoon."

With the championship in mind, can you win or lose more in this rally? "Pff, I don't ask myself this question, it's important for the both of us to score points like in every rally."

And then some stuff about the importance of tyre choice and how he likes the battle...

Neuville:

What was the objective this morning? "We wanted to reduce the gap to Sebastien little by little this morning, because we knew it would be difficult to achieve big gaps. But in the last stage we were able to deal a big blow. I think he wasn't very comfortable on that stage, a very difficult stage."

A big attack then? "Well, I wasn't feeling 100 per cent at the start, it felt better and better and I continued to up the rhythm until the end of the stage. I started to widen the gap, at the end 14 seconds. We know the stages well, that helps."


We know the championship standings. More to lose or to win? "Today we're in the same situation. It's true that I have a little bit of an advantage in the championship, but the objective this weekend is to take more points than them and be the leader of the championship. Up til now he's still in front, so we have to find some seconds this afternoon and take the lead."

You like the battle? "Yes, but it also brings pressure, there are a lot of traps. Sometimes it's warm, but we've been okay up til now."

[Mirek]

During the morning loop Kopecky lost like 3 minutes to Tänak, so Tänak could catch him already today

Especially considering that now Kopecký has nobody around him in WRC2 and the only thing he needs is to cruise to the finish.

[RS]

Veiby quicker than Slowgier in that one.

[Watson]

What is this stage schedule? You have a proper stage at 10 am, then a service (fair enough so far) but then a 1.4 km stage at 2 pm and then 2 hours of nothing?

[AnttiL]

What is this stage schedule? You have a proper stage at 10 am, then a service (fair enough so far) but then a 1.4 km stage at 2 pm and then 2 hours of nothing?

Ittiri Arena is close to Alghero, but the start of Coiluna - Loelle is 100 km away. Also 100 km from the end of Monte Lerno to service.

[Watson]

Ittiri Arena is close to Alghero, but the start of Coiluna - Loelle is 100 km away. Also 100 km from the end of Monte Lerno to service.

Fair enough I suppose :D

[stefanvv]

Fair enough I suppose :D


Elementary, Watson. But certainly they could do better than 5 hours of "nothing" between loops.

[KKS]

Pieniazek +1.37 on short super special. What happen?

[AnttiL]

Elementary, Watson. But certainly they could do better than 5 hours of "nothing" between loops.

They should restructure the route to include a stage on the way to Monte Lerno and back. But maybe there's nothing as good available? Most of the rallies are like this anyway. Rally Finland is one of the few where you have action spread out for the whole day.

I think Sardegna has worked better when the base was in Olbia, only 50 km from today's stages.

[KKS]

elementary, watson. But certainly they could do better than 5 hours of "nothing" between loops.
:d:d:d
:D:D:D

[stefanvv]

They should restructure the route to include a stage on the way to Monte Lerno and back. But maybe there's nothing as good available? Most of the rallies are like this anyway. Rally Finland is one of the few where you have action spread out for the whole day.

I think Sardegna has worked better when the base was in Olbia, only 50 km from today's stages.


Ok, I'm not familiar with the map over there, but without this "nothing" at 14:10 pm probably they can spare an hour or so?!?

[KKS]

Pieniazek +1.37 on short super special. What happen?
Łukasz Pieniążek‏ @pieniazekrally (https://twitter.com/pieniazekrally) 51m51 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/pieniazekrally/status/1005437766388342784)More



https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/26d4.png SS13 https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f447.png "Rolled. Check the car now"

[KKS]

not full throttle for Evans... near 92-95% was dead and a little jumping.... it's a problem I guess

[stefanvv]

Looks like there is fight for 3rd place.

[KKS]

FR puncture for Neuville?

E: yes

[EstWRC]

Wow just look at the splits between championship top3. Great! So equal

[focus206]

Ogier's lead up to 6.8 s; 2 x 28 Km stages now... Neuville without spares now, I believe?

[HaCo]

How were TNs splits before his puncture? Did he loose a lot?

[KKS]

How were TNs splits before his puncture? Did he loose a lot?
+0.5 - +0.8

[N.O.T]

Really nice that they both willing to fight... lets hope that speed and driving decides this one and not anything else.

[KKS]

Hey, people, have you recognized newer version of N.O.T?

[ESTR]

We have better things to do like watching battles between French and not so french guy

[wrc2017]

Hey, people, have you recognized newer version of N.O.T?

his account has been hacked.

[Rallyper]

Hey, people, have you recognized newer version of N.O.T?

Yeah. N.O.T. ver. 2.0

[focus206]

Hey, people, have you recognized newer version of N.O.T?

If Neuville bins it, he'll be back being his usual self :D "useless sick dog of nothingness"

[N.O.T]

they fight like rabid dogs on steroids !!!!! This is what rallying is all about....