New constructor!

[ESTR]

What you guys think of that thread. What's is your opinion what manufacturer could bring their machinery into top game.

Mine is Nissan with Micra perhaps.
Or Fiat with their newly Argo

[N.O.T]

What you guys think of that thread.

i think its useless and stupid.

[ESTR]

i think its useless and stupid.

So what. Go elsewhere spread that negativity..

[sonnybobiche]

Don't worry about NOT, that's just how he is.

[AnttiL]

Tesla

[ESTR]

https://scontent.flju2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17917536_1332519853500953_5900873244438069046_o.pn g?oh=b865c200204b9c64aa3cd7895c2e0889&oe=5A45D588

https://indianautosblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Fiat-Argo-Abarth-front-IAB-Rendering.jpg

[HaCo]

I vote for the Nissan! :D

[pantealex]

My vote goes to Audi

[Eli]

My vote goes for Renault

[turves]

Kia?

[Norm75]

Kia?

Part of Hyundai group, why would they.

[Tarmop]

Well, it is basically Hyundai, so i can`t see the point. Anyway too expensive for most of the manufacturers. Pretty much all of the manufactures present in WRC are threatened by a fine, reaching billions of euros, because they don`t have the technology for new emissions rule from 2020(21?).

[AndyRAC]

Be grateful for the ones we currently have - I can't think of many who would want, or are able to join.

[Zeakiwi]

FIA might encourage someone like SAIC (MG brand)to do similar to what Proton are doing with their R5 car https://youtu.be/b_nZaHe16rU https://youtu.be/8AG-gVbZBVY . MG 3 has 2520 mm wheelbase which is stage rally wb. 1500cc turbo engine std pruction or reduce capacity on 1800cc block etc.,

https://www.saicmotor.co.uk/ourstory/ (SAIC technical centre in the UK)

http://www.caradvice.com.au/587232/mg-gs-ancap-five-star-rating-marks-chinas-first/ (MG SUV first Chinese vehicle to get 5 star safety on Australian independent crash tests)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAIC_Motor_UK

https://youtu.be/zU_O2RB3nik ZongShen m/c dakar (Chinese Dakar bikes built in France?)

[ESTR]

Be grateful for the ones we currently have - I can't think of many who would want, or are able to join.

I am ;) I heard that Mitsubishi have a vision in motorsport but I think that not in rally, maybe in raid because they are focusing only on SUV's.

[giu canbera]

wasnt OPEL interested?
ANyway... I think it'd be more interesting to have more of those MSport/Ford & AbuDhabi/Ctiroen partnerships, right? Like... FIAT AF-Corse, BMWMini ProDrive, VW Qatar/RedBull, The american SUBARU team...
like with the R5 cars? Sorry. Idk much about the R5 cars thing... or the TCR program too (almost free costumer cars racing touringcar series all over the world)

[Tarmop]

Problem with Opel nowdays is, that they are part of PSA group. Maybe compete, maybe not.

[N.O.T]

Maybe compete, maybe not.

very accurate prediction... well done kid.

[Indreq]

:p ;)

Pic by Viljar Voog at Saaremaa Rally.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMAPPONWsAA9S7u.jpg

[ESTR]

This is AP4 car, I think.

[AnttiL]

Dytko Proto

[Andre Oliveira]

With EVO X mechanics

[racerx1979]

I don't think the Audi is a Dytko car as they have not yet built the Audi set up. That is from an Estonian company.

[pantealex]

"Audi" is not AP4, not Dytko and didn´t sound like Mitsu... Very different sound that "Polo" with mitsu engine. (I was in Saarenmaa)

It´s made in Estonia.

[racerx1979]

"Audi" is not AP4, not Dytko and didn´t sound like Mitsu... Very different sound that "Polo" with mitsu engine. (I was in Saarenmaa)

It´s made in Estonia.

I thought it was the Skoda R5 engine, but could be something else.

[Aquagen]

I have read somewhere in FB (i think it was Margus Murakas page) that it has original S1 TFSI 2.0T engine.

[Tarmop]

Yes, based on S1 OE, tuned to 335bhp/595nm. Because the gearbox wasn`t ready, a S1 stock was used this time, so 4wd probably also Quattro. Chassis was made by Reinsalu sport in Estonia. Real shame we couldn`t see what it was capable of as Murakas retired for some unknown reasons after SS3...was going quite slow until then (although didn`t mention if something was wrong with the car).Only Dytko is Aus`s Polo, based on an Evo X. Koik and Kaur use also Reinsalu built Fiesta R5 replica shells with Evo equipment, i believe they used their old cars, an Evo VIII and Evo IX as donors.

[Indreq]

Yes, based on S1 OE, tuned to 335bhp/595nm. Because the gearbox wasn`t ready, a S1 stock was used this time, so 4wd probably also Quattro. Chassis was made by Reinsalu sport in Estonia. Real shame we couldn`t see what it was capable of as Murakas retired for some unknown reasons after SS3...was going quite slow until then (although didn`t mention if something was wrong with the car).Only Dytko is Aus`s Polo, based on an Evo X. Koik and Kaur use also Reinsalu built Fiesta R5 replica shells with Evo equipment, i believe they used their old cars, an Evo VIII and Evo IX as donors.

Offtopic but Murakas said that he chose not to start on 2nd day as engine didnt produce needed power. Add here standard gearbox, and he probably simply wasn enjoying enough. One question though - i havent monitored technical requirements of these classes - what limitations there are for this kind of one-off "prototype" cars? From outside this one has several visual cues from current WRC cars, can it in theory be developed to be comparable also in speed?

[Tarmop]

Probably yes, if you put a lot of know-how and equipment (money :D) into it. But in order to make it fast everywhere and also reliable, the cost will be about the same as a used WRC. It`s quite free apart from safety.

[Sub_Skoda]

Kia?

+1

Proton also.

[Mirek]

Throwing random manufacturer's names around isn't good for anything.

[pantealex]

Throwing random manufacturer's names around isn't good for anything.

+1

[ESTR]

Then don't read that thread. Nobody said you must read everything and post anywhere.

[dimviii]

Then don't read that thread. Nobody said you must read everything and post anywhere.

don't waste bandwith with garbage.

[Duvel]

What about the Opel R5 project, will we see some of them next year?

No WRC plans for Opel i know. But was a nice looking car in the service park in Trier, would like to see it on the stages.

[ESTR]

don't waste bandwith with garbage.

Do yourself a favor: get into the garbage truck. There is place for weak and negative people.

[dimviii]

Do yourself a favor: get into the garbage truck. There is place for weak and negative people.

the course of your topic will show who is for the garbage.
I will remind you at some weeks kid.

[A FONDO]

Come on, be nicer to the new guy :D

[AndyRAC]

Throwing random manufacturer's names around isn't good for anything.

Agree - some people are seemingly unaware what manufacturers motorsport interests are. A lot listed here have no interest in rallying....

[sete]

do we know if there is actually some car brand interested to join WRC championship?

[[WRCRR]]

do we know if there is actually some car brand interested to join WRC championship?

There isn't. Of course this might change, as auto manufacturers are evaluating their competition programs all the time. Still, as we have already 3 official and 1 semi-official team involved, the situation is quite good. Should WRC lose any of them, suddenly it is not so good...

[mArvAlcao17]

As Asian, i really want to see another manufacturers join the championship. I know there are Hyundai & Toyota, but somehow their presence doesn't give enough value to Asian rallying