Rally di Roma Capitale 2017

[Antreas]

News

[Andre Oliveira]

Entry list should be out today

[Jarek Z]

Are you sure? ;)

It's already tomorrow and only trailer is out ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=O_Iy_i-kFA8

[Jarek Z]

Kajto was among 50 000 viewers at the Polish national stadium in Warsaw spectating the football game between Poland and Kazakhstan (3-0) yesterday.

https://scontent-frx5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p180x540/21270874_1741874409179153_5647268415298876695_n.jp g?oh=a91ba25f1fd1b6d54ee3205c5acfbcc5&oe=5A5380DE

And today he confirmed his presence in Rally di Roma Capitale.

[mousti]

Stéphane Consani will be with Fiesta R5. Nice news because he's very fast in France

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[Andre Oliveira]

Still no entry list today? Regs said yesterday :(

[Jarek Z]

According to http://rajdy.autoklub.pl/news/bracia-consani-planuja-rzym,79155 brothers Robert and Stéphane Consani are going to compete in Rally di Roma Capitale. Robert is going to drive Peugeot 208 T16 and Stephane will use Ford Fiesta R5.
Nobody knows when the entry list is revealed.

[Andre Oliveira]

Bruno Magalhães | Hugo Magalhães in

[Reis Eduardo]

According to https://www.autosport.pt/ralis/bruno-magalhaes-confirmado-roma/ Bruno Magalhães Skoda Fabia R5 and Emma Falcon at the Citroën DS3 R3T will compete in the Rally di Roma Capitale.

[Essaj]

Pretty sad that we still don't have a entry list even thought the event is less than a week away.

[Jarek Z]

Entry list must exist somewhere, because there are many hints about the competing drivers in this article:
https://www.fiaerc.com/erc-event-preview-rally-di-roma-capitale/

[RS]

It's Italy, they've probably gone for a pizza.

[RS]

Entry list must exist somewhere, because there are many hints about the competing drivers in this article:
https://www.fiaerc.com/erc-event-preview-rally-di-roma-capitale/

Yes, sounds like a decent ERC entry with all the usual guys: Kajto, Lukyanuk, Bouffier, Magalhaes, Cerny, Lopez, Suarez, Gryazin.. I guess Griebel might skip it though now that the job is done.

Is this an Italian Championship round, and therefore can we expect Andreucci, Scandola e.t.c. too?

[Essaj]

Yes, sounds like a decent ERC entry with all the usual guys: Kajto, Lukyanuk, Bouffier, Magalhaes, Cerny, Lopez, Suarez, Gryazin.. I guess Griebel might skip it though now that the job is done.

Is this an Italian Championship round, and therefore can we expect Andreucci, Scandola e.t.c. too?

Yeah it's and hopefully they both take part in ERC.
Kalle Rovanperä is also driving atleast in national class with Peugeot T16 so we get some indication where he is against other young guys on tarmac.

[focus206]

Yeah it's and hopefully they both take part in ERC.
Kalle Rovanperä is also driving atleast in national class with Peugeot T16 so we get some indication where he is against other young guys on tarmac.

As far as I know, they won't. Italian championship will have a separate classification, as if it was a different rally but on the same stages. So one can only indirectly compare their times with the ERC regulars'. I wouldn't know the reason for that.

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJee0FfXoAE_U2M?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJee0FiXgAUgdVH?format=jpg&name=large

[RS]

So no top Italian crews in ERC classification.. maybe good that they don't intefere with ERC title race.

Bit strange that Michel misses Barum and then comes back when JERC U28 title is decided, but welcome.

No Ostberg, who I think originally said he would do this event.

[Ralph-Mario]

https://www.rallye-magazin.de/int/artikel/d/2017/09/11/marijan-griebel-beendet-saison-vorzeitig/

[WUff1]

https://www.rallye-magazin.de/int/artikel/d/2017/09/11/marijan-griebel-beendet-saison-vorzeitig/

So no Griebel at Roma.

[Hartusvuori]

So one can only indirectly compare their times with the ERC regulars'. I wouldn't know the reason for that.

Out of interest?

[focus206]

Out of interest?

I wouldn't know the reason why organizers decided to completely separate the two classifications.

[Jarek Z]

So no top Italian crews in ERC classification.. maybe good that they don't intefere with ERC title race.

In my humble opinion deteriorating the level of competition is never good for the sport...

[Jarek Z]

So no Griebel at Roma.

Griebel is out, but Consani is in:
https://www.fiaerc.com/consani-all-set-to-do-the-italian-job-in-erc-junior-u28/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

If they are the same stages, and providing the road conditions are similar, we can just compare the times,

[havk]

Maybe because of different tyre classification? I really don't like such attitude by organizers - there should be one rally, classification, even no special entry to ERC needed - you enter the event and automatically enter ERC.

[Mirek]

That's not possible when there are two sets of rules. This issue has been discussed to death in other threads but in this case it looks like the problem is that Italian ASN didn't allow C.I.R. crews to enter both entry fields unlike it was in other ERC events (You can usually find a common point where You can follow rules of both championships).

[Andre Oliveira]

Nucita and Andolfi in both events

[Mirek]

Yes but only because Abarth was fighting for them.

[Jarek Z]

Alex Lukyanuk in action on the Italian stages:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAKgQW5HqfQ

[Mirek]

Great road! Is it typical one for the rally?

[Jarek Z]

Great road! Is it typical one for the rally?

No idea. We don't have any Italians on the forum.
But you can see the stages yourself here :)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC53jpatsZIeUSLFPsSwMaaQ

[Jarek Z]

Here's an onboard from Grzegorz Grzyb. Is the road so slippery or is he driving a drift car? ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbRTKMUGRVI

[Jarek Z]

It's always intersting to see A Ferrari on a rally stage...
http://www.rallylink.it/cms16/images/gallery/Roma_03/02_303.jpg

[Munkvy]

Here's an onboard from Grzegorz Grzyb. Is the road so slippery or is he driving a drift car? ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbRTKMUGRVI

Looks more like his driving style? Very jerky steering movements, which seem to correspond to a lot of needing to correct shortly after jerking the steering wheel around!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

FP1 times

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJr6afIW0AE7M3_.jpg

Lukyanuk fastest in FP2 ... maybe suits him after all !

[tommeke_B]

Hmm... As it's new for everyone, I give Lukyanuk greater chances than usual. ;) On FP2 he's quickest by the way.

[WRC1]

anybody knows why qualify stage is delayed??

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Spectator issues... Qual Stage cancelled !

Rally will start in Championship order.

[Jarek Z]

Some more details about the cancellation:
https://www.fiaerc.com/erc-rally-di-roma-capitale-qualifying-stage-cancelled/

[Jarek Z]

Nucita and Andolfi in both events

Are you sure? Where do you see them on the Italian entry list?
http://www.rallydiromacapitale.it/docs/elenco_iscritti_CIR_rally_roma_2017.pdf

[Jarek Z]

First problems already on shakedown:

http://www.rallylink.it/cms16/images/diretteweb_2016/roma_2017/IMG-20170914-WA0005.jpg

[focus206]

Are you sure? Where do you see them on the Italian entry list?
http://www.rallydiromacapitale.it/docs/elenco_iscritti_CIR_rally_roma_2017.pdf

They are just in the ERC list, they have been moved from the CIR one to the ERC one. Andre probably saw them still in the CIR list because it wasn't updated.

[Jarek Z]

Thanks for the explanation focus206.

In the meantime - Alex Lukyanuk on a series of Italian hairpins:

https://www.facebook.com/lukyanuk/photos/pcb.867113353447914/867112776781305/?type=3&theater

[Andre Oliveira]

Yes focus206. Now fixed.

[Jarek Z]

Kajto in action on the free practice session, this time with some nice hard rock music in the background :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMTTDOjilNI

[Mirek]

What the hell is that again?

https://scontent.fprg1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21761859_10214197071026301_1061889201500031850_n.j pg?oh=fe7ffebf3b93772fe171120202e7a421&oe=5A53BAB5

[electroliquid]

What the hell is that again?

https://scontent.fprg1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21761859_10214197071026301_1061889201500031850_n.j pg?oh=fe7ffebf3b93772fe171120202e7a421&oe=5A53BAB5

Looks like go-karts track. :D

[Jarek Z]

Looks like go-karts track. :D

Or a city parking.

[Lousada]

Or a city parking.

Or a maze. First car who finds the way out wins the stage.

[Mirek]

lol


(19 - Dumas Romain / Giraudet Denis): This car is too big for the city, we used only first gear.

[Mirek]

JERC leader Zawada out already in SS2. Current leaderboard: 1. Ingram, 2. Mareš, 3. Huttunen, 4. Kupec.

Abarth GT group nowhere near Dumas in SS2.

Big crash of Thurn und Taxis blocked the road in SS3...

[dimviii]

Albert von T&T blocking the road

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJ1jJm0XcAEg-IS.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJ1jJm0X0AAQsm5.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJ1kx1kWkAEBCBt.jpg

[Essaj]

https://twitter.com/FIAERC/status/908991878913314816
Dosent look that big of a crash. There goes 1/4 of todays km's...

[Jarek Z]

Only 3 stages are through and so many drivers already out:

von Thurn und Taxis Albert - accident on SS 3
Melegari Zelindo - withdrown due to personal reasons
Remennik Sergei - accident on SS 2
Suárez José António - accident on SS 2
Zawada Aleks - technical problem - transmissions on SS 2

[Jarek Z]

Kajto describes his strategy in the second part of the season - “The best way to explain my strategy is to see my place in the FIA European Rally Championship at this moment. Of course it’s not easy to drive fast and carefully and it’s hard to find a compromise. My plan is simple: to be a champion for the third time.
https://www.fiaerc.com/kajetanowicz-erc-title-strategy-is-working/

[RS]

Kajto describes his strategy in the second part of the season - “The best way to explain my strategy is to see my place in the FIA European Rally Championship at this moment. Of course it’s not easy to drive fast and carefully and it’s hard to find a compromise. My plan is simple: to be a champion for the third time.
https://www.fiaerc.com/kajetanowicz-erc-title-strategy-is-working/

Perfectly sensible. Without Lukyanuk's injury things would have been different and Kajto might have had to have pushed more.

[RS]

For whom it may interest, Italian Championship times are here: http://rally.ficr.it/default.asp?p=Ym9keV9zY2hlZHVsZS5hc3A/cF9Bbm5vPTIwMTcmcF9Db2RpY2U9ODcmcF9NYW5pZmVzdGF6aW 9uZT0yJnBfR2FyYT0yJnBfTGluZ3VhPUlUQQ

Different stage conditions e.t.c. but top ERC are crews are roughly on a par with top Italian crews so far.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Real shame Zawada going out after getting crowd-funding from family and friends just to be here.. :(

[dimviii]

Kajto describes his strategy in the second part of the season - “The best way to explain my strategy is to see my place in the FIA European Rally Championship at this moment. Of course it’s not easy to drive fast and carefully and it’s hard to find a compromise. My plan is simple: to be a champion for the third time.
https://www.fiaerc.com/kajetanowicz-erc-title-strategy-is-working/

he cant do any different.His only choice.

Crugnola impressive times at CIR.

[Jarek Z]

Real shame Zawada going out after getting crowd-funding from family and friends just to be here.. :(

What are you talking about?

[RS]

Real shame Zawada going out after getting crowd-funding from family and friends just to be here.. :(

Yes, especially not through his own fault. Presumably he will restart tomorrow to take leg points.

[Mirek]

by notional times Bouffier is given 4 seconds advantage...

[Jarek Z]

Problems with spectators again! Stage 4 delayed.

[Jarek Z]

Aleks Zawada is distraught:
https://www.fiaerc.com/distraught-zawada-suffers-erc-junior-u27-title-blow/

[Mirek]

Both official Peugeots are out after SS4.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The BRC has just finished on Rally Isle of Man (won by Keith Cronin in an M-Sport Fiesta, who took the title by 1 point over Freddie Ahlin after winning Round 8 by 0.1s !!!). :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJ2gXIcXoAAqd4I.jpg

Now I can concentrate on the ERC... ;)

[Jarek Z]

For whom it may interest, Italian Championship times are here: http://rally.ficr.it/default.asp?p=Ym9keV9zY2hlZHVsZS5hc3A/cF9Bbm5vPTIwMTcmcF9Db2RpY2U9ODcmcF9NYW5pZmVzdGF6aW 9uZT0yJnBfR2FyYT0yJnBfTGluZ3VhPUlUQQ

Different stage conditions e.t.c. but top ERC are crews are roughly on a par with top Italian crews so far.

On SS4 Lukyanuk, Kajetanowicz and Bouffier are faster than all Italian championship drivers. Maybe it is raining or something?

[Mirek]

Yes, it started raining.

[RS]

On SS4 Lukyanuk, Kajetanowicz and Bouffier are faster than all Italian championship drivers. Maybe it is raining or something?

Yes i think there was some rain for later drivers so comparisons are fairly meaningless.

[dimviii]

Crugnola

http://www.rallylink.it/cms16/images/diretteweb_2016/roma_2017/IMG-20170916-WA0047.jpg

[Jarek Z]

Suarez crashed again.

http://www.rallylink.it/cms16/images/diretteweb_2016/roma_2017/IMG-20170916-WA0039.jpg

[itix]

I'm impressed with how high class the Italian competition is keeping compared to the international drivers.

I'm surprised there aren't more Italians on the international scene.

[Mirek]

Even in the strongest IRC years local Italians were able to fight for the victory on their home soil (Andreucci, Basso at least).

[bf1_IRL]

Is there anywhere showing combined ERC & CIR results?

[Jarek Z]

Is there anywhere showing combined ERC & CIR results?

No, I don't think so. You have to look at both results separately.

[Jarek Z]

What a sad rally. Another delay. This time SS5 will be postponed by 30 minutes.

[Jarek Z]

I'm impressed with how high class the Italian competition is keeping compared to the international drivers.

I'm surprised there aren't more Italians on the international scene.

Actually the Italian rally scene used to be much stronger a few years ago. Now it's just a shadow of its former self. Do you remember such names as Rossetti, Basso, Travaglia, Aghini, Dallavilla, Navarra, Cunico...

[itix]

Actually the Italian rally scene used to be much stronger a few years ago. Now it's just a shadow of its former self. Do you remember such names as Rossetti, Basso, Travaglia, Aghini, Dallavilla, Navarra, Cunico...The same can be said about most rally scenes as of late. We used to have loads of young talents knocking on our doors in almost all traditionally strong national and international series. Now it looks like a slump in form below the WRC (but the WRC itself looks a lot stronger instead).

Still, this is an international field of drivers and the Italians are keeping up. Nobody would accuse Lukyanuk or Bouffier of being slow (and the Italians have worse conditions).

[Mirek]

Very good time for Nucita with Abarth 124 on SS5.

[Jarek Z]

Both official Peugeots are out after SS4.

Yes, Suarez crashed again and Lopes had power steering fluid leak. What a disaster for the Peugeot team.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJ27Y43XUAEFG3b.jpg

[Mirek]

Rain reported near the end of SS6. Most of the crews are on hard tyres I think (at least Černý and Mareš are on medium afaik)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The same can be said about most rally scenes as of late. We used to have loads of young talents knocking on our doors in almost all traditionally strong national and international series. Now it looks like a slump in form below the WRC (but the WRC itself looks a lot stronger instead).

Still, this is an international field of drivers and the Italians are keeping up. Nobody would accuse Lukyanuk or Bouffier of being slow (and the Italians have worse conditions).

I think the issue has been financial rather than lack of talent. I would imagine this has been the case even more so in Italy...

[Jarek Z]

Rain reported near the end of SS6. Most of the crews are on hard tyres I think (at least Černý and Mareš are on medium afaik)

Magalhães said after SS5: "Our car is a bit heavy, we have two spares. But I have not best tyre choice."

Can it be an advantage for him?

[Iraquiano]

It appears that Lukyanuk lost a wheel, SS6 neutralized. (on rally rado, but not confirmed)

EDIT: Lukasz saw Luky on the side of the road, thinks Luky hit a rock, lost a wheel and stopped a couple meters forward so he wouldn't block the road, crew looked ok. Seems like the stage will restart soon...

[itix]

I think the issue has been financial rather than lack of talent. I would imagine this has been the case even more so in Italy...Probably so yeah.

Crap about Luky. Seems he is still his old self :(

[Jarek Z]

Oops he did it again...

[cosmin_sb]

stage is cancelled

[Lehus]

Probably so yeah.

Crap about Luky. Seems he is still his old self :(
Driving without light from the beginning of the stage :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It's been a real letdown this rally so far.. just one problem after another.

[cosmin_sb]

totally agree with you, stage delay, more that 50% from km of SS cancel and it is just first day

[Lehus]

Driving without light from the beginning of the stage :(

Checked the onboard. Codriver mistake

[nafpaktos]

What happened to Gryazin on stage 4?

[Lehus]

What happened to Gryazin on stage 4?
Gearbox

[Mirek]

Checked the onboard. Codriver mistake

Thank You for the information. Is it possible to restart tomorrow?

[Lehus]

Thank You for the information. Is it possible to restart tomorrow?
Should be. Nothing severe

[Mirek]

Thanks

[mousti]

Luky is not in the mood https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170916/98d0f3853de159080013b890fd383291.jpg

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[Mirek]

Luky is not in the mood

Who would?

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJ3ooUoWkAAM-xP.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

What are you talking about?

Zawada was struggling for finances and he raised the money for new tyres here by crowd-funding.

[RS]

Lukyanuk didn't restart?

[TWRC]

Suárez is doing pretty decent today. On the other hand, López has already retired with the same problem as yesterday-maybe he is in a rush to get to the Hyundai test? :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good morning for Kajto winning 3 tricky stages and some competition from Bouffier and the recovering Suarez.

Mares has been starring in the U27 taking the lead from Huttunen. One poor stage from Ingram dropped him to 3rd.

[Mirek]

Onboard Lukyanuk's crash: https://www.facebook.com/FiaEuropeanRallyChampionship/videos/1364643806995538/

I don't understand why the stage was canceled. He stopped in a safe place.

[CWJ]

Maybe the wheel plus suspension didn't stop in a safe place at night Mirek?

[Mirek]

Bouffier back in the lead.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

:D

https://i.imgur.com/bH99UoS.jpg

[Mirek]

Kajto back, 0,5 seconds to the last stage :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice battle for the lead... but after yesterday's BRC win by 0.1s its not that close ! ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Bouffier by 0.3s !!

[AndyRAC]

Great finish to the event; well done to Bryan & Xavier. Have to say, it looked quite a nice event. A shame we still can't get decent TV coverage, the highlights are all too brief.

[Mirek]

What a day for Czech colors! I'm going to take a shot :)

Absolute victory of Bouffier goes also to his Czech team, U28 victory is taken by Černý and what is for me the biggest achievement is a victory of Mareš in U27 by pure speed over the works Opel crews!

[Rally Power]

Congrats to Bouffier and hats off to Kajto; this time he pushed like a champ! Nice podium for Magalhães.

For next year, Eurosport must deal to get Italian crews into the main event; having local drivers fighting with ERC regulars is always a plus to the series.

[Jarek Z]

Zawada was struggling for finances and he raised the money for new tyres here by crowd-funding.

Thanks, I didn't know about it. I hope the crowd-funding campaign was successful. I saw an interview with Zawada yesterday on Eurosport where he said he is going to be present also in the last round on Latvia.

[Jarek Z]

what is for me the biggest achievement is a victory of Mareš in U27 by pure speed over the works Opel crews!

Exactly! Congratulations to Mares! What a fantastic achievement of this young Czech driver! First Zawada (on Barum Rally) and now Mares proved that it is possible to beat the official Opel team with a private car! :)

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4389/37262787875_ff2414a5a4_b.jpg

[RS]

Exactly! Congratulations to Mares! What a fantastic achievement of this young Czech driver!

At the Frankfurt Motorshow the boss of Skoda Czech Republic said they would like to create a programme to develop young Czech Rally talent, perhaps he is a candidate..

[dimviii]

Exactly! Congratulations to Mares! What a fantastic achievement of this young Czech driver! First Zawada (on Barum Rally) and now Mares proved that it is possible to beat the official Opel team with a private car! :)

also we saw that 208 can be equal fast or faster from Opels.

[Jarek Z]

Kajto in Rome - video report from leg 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGCxI2RJjIQ&feature=youtu.be

[dimviii]

nice Suarez clip
https://twitter.com/JASuarezOficial/status/909488800778375169

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Chris Ingram back into the lead of U27.

Can someone work out what he needs in Latvia to be champion ?

[Munkvy]

So has anyone worked out a decent comparison between ERC and Italian times. How did Kalle compare for example?

[Jarek Z]

by notional times Bouffier is given 4 seconds advantage...

Did those 4 seconds decide about the rally winner?

[Mirek]

For sure they played a role.

[RS]

So has anyone worked out a decent comparison between ERC and Italian times. How did Kalle compare for example?

For what it's worth, Campedelli and Scandola were generally slightly quicker than the leading ERC crews. Rovanpera was a bit further back, but I expect a different story in Latviia..

It would have been a better competition and easier to compare times if all crews had run together as they do on other ERC rounds.

[pantealex]

Chris Ingram back into the lead of U27.

Can someone work out what he needs in Latvia to be champion ?

All I know is that Huttunen needs a win for championship title.

[RS]

All I know is that Huttunen needs a win for championship title.

Ideal territory for him to deliver that..

[RS]

Full SS12 with Kajto: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UxD4MkbS1x4

Like watching it live, only one day late..

Nice to see Kajto pushing more on this rally, a champions drive one might say.

[Hartusvuori]

How are Leg points in ERC? 7 points for fastest driver, 6 points for 2nd?

So, Huttunen has now 106 points and from Latvia he can score maximum 39 points = 145 points in total.
Ingram has 115 points. If Huttunen leads all the way and wins in Latvia and Ingram stays second all the time, he get 18+6+6 points = 145 points in total.
Both would have 2 victories, but Huttunen would have 2x 2nd places whereas Ingram would have only one. And there is a slight chance Ingram could be the faster driver too...

And let's not forget that neither of Opel drivers is currently the championship leader. It's Mares. In theory Zawada has a chance for the title too.

And this is rallying, so anything can happen.

[RS]

How are Leg points in ERC? 7 points for fastest driver, 6 points for 2nd?

So, Huttunen has now 106 points and from Latvia he can score maximum 39 points = 145 points in total.
Ingram has 115 points. If Huttunen leads all the way and wins in Latvia and Ingram stays second all the time, he get 18+6+6 points = 145 points in total.
Both would have 2 victories, but Huttunen would have 2x 2nd places whereas Ingram would have only one. And there is a slight chance Ingram could be the faster driver too...

And let's not forget that neither of Opel drivers is currently the championship leader. It's Mares. In theory Zawada has a chance for the title too.

And this is rallying, so anything can happen.

You need to take dropped scores into account too. Best four count, so Huttunen's best score would be 139.

[Hartusvuori]

You need to take dropped scores into account too. Best four count, so Huttunen's best score would be 139.

OK. This plays in favour of Huttunen, but still - first they need to race. Great battle until the end.

[Jarek Z]

How are Leg points in ERC? 7 points for fastest driver, 6 points for 2nd?

Yes, your calculations are right. Standings for all classifications have just been updated on the official website:
https://www.fiaerc.com/standings/

[Jarek Z]

So has anyone worked out a decent comparison between ERC and Italian times. How did Kalle compare for example?

I was very curious about it, so I made a small comparison of stage times for both championships. In general top 3 drivers from Italian championship (Campedelli, Scandola and Crugnola) were slightly faster than ERC drivers. Only on SS4 and SS5 Lukyanuk was faster than all the Italians.

Kalle Rovanpera was slower than top ERC drivers (Bouffier, Kajetanowicz and Lukyanuk) on nearly every stage.

Comparison between stage winners in ERC and CIR:

SS1 Gryazin 1:47.9, Scandola 1:46.0
SS2 Lukyanuk 8:21.7, Crugnola 8:20.4
SS3 Bouffier 15:09.5, Crugnola 14:52.6
SS4 Lukyanuk 7:34.8, Campedelli 7:44.0
SS5 Lukyanuk 8:17.2, Scandola 8:24.0
SS6 Bouffier 15:14.7, stage canceled for Italian championship

SS7 Kajto 21:15.4, Campedelli 21:07.2
SS8 Kajto 5:12.9, Scandola 5:06.9
SS9 Kajto 6:45.1, Campedelli 6:37.2
SS10 Bouffier 20:26.7, Campedelli 20:13.1
SS11 Suarez 5:02.2, Andreucci 5'00.6
SS12 Bouffier 6:38.1, Campedelli 6'35.4

[Fast Eddie WRC]

All I know is that Huttunen needs a win for championship title.

Looks like it's the same for Ingram.

But it could well be as complicated as the scoring was on the last round of the BRC this year...that was mind-boggling.

Best just to wait and see.

[dimviii]

I was very curious about it, so I made a small comparison of stage times for both championships. In general top 3 drivers from Italian championship (Campedelli, Scandola and Crugnola) were slightly faster than ERC drivers. Only on SS4 and SS5 Lukyanuk was faster than all the Italians.

Kalle Rovanpera was slower than top ERC drivers (Bouffier, Kajetanowicz and Lukyanuk) on nearly every stage.

Comparison between stage winners in ERC and CIR:

SS1 Gryazin 1:47.9, Scandola 1:46.0
SS2 Lukyanuk 8:21.7, Crugnola 8:20.4
SS3 Bouffier 15:09.5, Crugnola 14:52.6
SS4 Lukyanuk 7:34.8, Campedelli 7:44.0
SS5 Lukyanuk 8:17.2, Scandola 8:24.0
SS6 Bouffier 15:14.7, stage canceled for Italian championship

SS7 Kajto 21:15.4, Campedelli 21:07.2
SS8 Kajto 5:12.9, Scandola 5:06.9
SS9 Kajto 6:45.1, Campedelli 6:37.2
SS10 Bouffier 20:26.7, Campedelli 20:13.1
SS11 Suarez 5:02.2, Andreucci 5'00.6
SS12 Bouffier 6:38.1, Campedelli 6'35.4

crews were reporting rain,rain drops, sudden changes even at same stage,so I think its not safe to see differences.
Thanks for your work though.

[Mirek]

Colin McRae flat out trophy for Filip Mareš :)

[Jarek Z]

Nice summary video from Lotos Rally Team. It's good to see Kajto happy again :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8MyGXCcoU4

[Lehus]

For what it's worth, Campedelli and Scandola were generally slightly quicker than the leading ERC crews. Rovanpera was a bit further back, but I expect a different story in Latviia..

It would have been a better competition and easier to compare times if all crews had run together as they do on other ERC rounds.
Road conditions were quite different, as they were starting after ERC. Several times we were able to finish the dry stage, and locals were already driving in the rain

[PLuto]

Please, dont compare ERC and CIR times. Drivers in both fields were driving under different conditions. For example CIR crews had 3 runs on recce, different tyre limits and was driving at least 1 hour later than main field (especially with quickly changing weather it was completely different conditions)...

[PLuto]

At the Frankfurt Motorshow the boss of Skoda Czech Republic said they would like to create a programme to develop young Czech Rally talent, perhaps he is a candidate..

I have never heard any similar words from any person at Skoda...

[PLuto]

Onboard Lukyanuk's crash: https://www.facebook.com/FiaEuropeanRallyChampionship/videos/1364643806995538/

I don't understand why the stage was canceled. He stopped in a safe place.

Drivers after break refused to start again. First on the start line was R.Consani, who received penalty for it. Thats the reason why he didnt started to second leg.

[PLuto]

Did those 4 seconds decide about the rally winner?

On the other hand, Bouffier used the tyres and rest of the field "saved" them... On the other hand, Bouffier did the stage in rally rhythm which should help in second run...

[Mirek]

I have never heard any similar words from any person at Skoda...

It's in Czech. Direct copy from interview with Luboš Vlček, executive director for sales and marketing in Czech Republic:


A co budoucnost Škody v rallye? Neohrozí ji případný projekt R5 od Volkswagenu?

My máme v rallye obrovskou tradici a nemyslím si, že by ji ostatní značky koncernu měly nějakým způsobem ovlivnit. A byli bychom velmi rádi, když by se ve spolupráci s českým autoklubem podařilo vytvořit program pro přípravu mladých talentů.

Source: http://www.auto.cz/autosalon-frankfurt-2017-rozhovor-lubos-vlcek-elektricka-skoda-zna-svoji-cenu-a-jak-to-bude-s-rapidem-109838

[PLuto]

I believed that if it was written, it was told. But this words are against all things which Skoda did in last years. Despite big effort of federation to find any agreement with Skoda...

[RS]

I believed that if it was written, it was told. But this words are against all things which Skoda did in last years. Despite big effort of federation to find any agreement with Skoda...

My interpretation of it is that if Kopecky will no longer drive in the Czech Championship, maybe Skoda will send a different and younger Czech there instead.

[nafpaktos]

i see to the final results 40 sec penalty to Gryazin.Do we know what for.

[Mirek]

Late from service before SS5. If I remember he had problems with gearbox or differential before.

[Jarek Z]

Colin McRae flat out trophy for Filip Mareš :)

Good decision! In the meantime Jari Huttunen tries to understand why he was slower and he can't :
https://www.fiaerc.com/huttunen-erc-rally-di-roma-capitale-not-my-best/

[PLuto]

Good decision! In the meantime Jari Huttunen tries to understand why he was slower and he can't :
https://www.fiaerc.com/huttunen-erc-rally-di-roma-capitale-not-my-best/

It is easy. There were faster juniors than him... To say the truth, he was not so superb on Barum and also Rome.