WRC Calendar 2018 [Archive] - Page 2

Zeakiwi

28th September 2017, 01:12

I have maintained that it will be difficult enough for NZ to hold on to a round of the Asia Pacific Rally championship and that is where efforts should be continued.

Australia has a fairly mature/ older rally fleet too. An old Mitsubishi won their last national round compared to the new Mazda that won the last national round in NZ.

I would have preferred to have seen a World Rally go back to Cyprus or Japan.

jparker

28th September 2017, 09:21

@N.O.T, from what I heard everything was there to get the event on the calendar. A few months ago it seemed to be a done deal...

So, future of Poland was already decided long before rally even started? I knew it.

raybak

28th September 2017, 09:29

The Aussie fleet is very old. We won outright last weekend in an EVO 3 by nearly 3 minutes in a State event. All the newer cars are in Tarmac rallying.

Ray

aykutbilir

25th October 2017, 18:40

Finally today Rally of Turkey confirmed by FIA.

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/october-2017/turkey-confrmed/page/4954--12-12-.html

This year stages are improved and more stages added at North close to Mugla.

Last years narrow slow stages improved to faster style and real challange for drivers.

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ESTR

25th October 2017, 19:09

30th October 2017, 08:34

Having Australia as the final event on the calendar is a bad idea as this year shows. Titles are already decided and subsequent lack of entries make this event rather a damp squib.

ESTR

30th October 2017, 08:39

Having Australia as the final event on the calendar is a bad idea as this year shows. Titles are already decided and subsequent lack of entries make this event rather a damp squib.

Yes true. And everyone have excuses of logistical dificulties and expenses. Last round must be in Europe. But I think that organizers of Rally Australia keep pushing to be final there.

mArvAlcao17

30th October 2017, 10:05

If I choose (but I'm not), my choice would be:

1. Monte-Carlo
2. Sweden
3. Mexico
4. Tour De Corse
5. Argentina
6. San Remo
7. Kenya
8. Finland
9. Germany
10. Turkey
11. Croatia (it's because I'm near)
12. Wales
13. New Zealand

Maybe some other rallies not the same over & over again. It changes every 5 years only one event.

tbh I dreamed Indonesia. I'm curious how the 2017 cars handle the muddy medan roads.

Btw, IMI (Indonesian automotive association) recently said they want to join 2019 calendar, but tbh i don't see that happening

ESTR

30th October 2017, 10:30

tbh I dreamed Indonesia. I'm curious how the 2017 cars handle the muddy medan roads.

Btw, IMI (Indonesian automotive association) recently said they want to join 2019 calendar, but tbh i don't see that happening

For 2019 it's only confirmed about Croatia and strong rumours about Kenya joining. But Like I said teams complaining about expenses I don't think that more than 13 events will ever happened (if they include teams will surely leave). And surely Monte-Carlo, Sweden, Tour De Corse, Portugal, Finland, Germany, Wales, Spain will be forever on the calendar. Rally in Italy will probably move into continent (but will remain on the calendar forever). Mexico have long year contract, I think that Australia too.

Then the only not confirmed for a long term is Argentina (they've had safety issues like Poland) and now Turkey (if this rally will be good they will remain on calendar, because of manufacturers interests).

So I think that Croatia and Kenya are not confirmed either... 2019 is still long away and everything could change in time.

My opinon is that they need to mix the cards and throw half the events from calendar and bring new ones into the game so the cmhampionship would be even unpredictable and even more exciting. Sure most of the guys here will not agree with me but having same over the 30 years have no point revealing calendars and expect that could change anything from year to year.

AnttiL

30th October 2017, 10:33

And surely Monte-Carlo, Sweden, Tour De Corse, Portugal, Finland, Germany, Wales, Spain will be forever on the calendar.

only Wales/RAC and Finland have been always on the calendar since 1973 (with the exceptions of the rotation in 1994-1996, but that was for all events)

Eli

4th November 2017, 17:28

ESTR

4th November 2017, 17:50

https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/132840/teams-back-turkey-return-after-candidate-event

So apparently they are all cool with it (or at least M-Sport), question- is there any news about Greece returning to the WRC fold?

Money, bro. It's always money. Huge market over there for all...''Some very interesting roads'' they say. For me half of the events don't have beautiful scenery, but we can't do anything about it. Yeah, Acropolis (or Greece) have stunning roads and it would be interesting to see that again. But unfortunately no words were about that at the moment.

Eli

4th November 2017, 17:57

Money, bro. It's always money. Huge market over there for all...''Some very interesting roads'' they say. For me half of the events don't have beautiful scenery, but we can't do anything about it. Yeah, Acropolis (or Greece) have stunning roads and it would be interesting to see that again. But unfortunately no words were about that at the moment.

True but still such a shame, I mean, I would rather see Greece or Cyprus instead of Turkey as I would like to see NZ instead of Coffs Harbour...but as you said money is the thing that makes the world go round...

Franky

4th November 2017, 19:42

For me half of the events don't have beautiful scenery, but we can't do anything about it.

Have you been to all the events?

Zeakiwi

4th November 2017, 20:57

tbh I dreamed Indonesia. I'm curious how the 2017 cars handle the muddy medan roads.

Btw, IMI (Indonesian automotive association) recently said they want to join 2019 calendar, but tbh i don't see that happening

Indonesia might try running an APRC round in August after Malaysia in the dry season. https://fiaaprc.com/2018-aprc-calendar/ Relatively short transport distance between Malaysia and Indonesia. APRC teams don't usually rebuild their cars to WRC standards between events(Wrc returns cars to the factory and have a total strip down and rebuild)
(China aprc was cancelled this year)

AndyRAC

4th November 2017, 21:44

I hope Rally Turkey is indeed a turkey of an event......and is dropped quickly....

NickRally

5th November 2017, 02:04

AndyRAC, to say this it is wrong on so many different levels. I don't know what the event in Turkey is/will be and I have never even travelled to that country, but no one that trully supports the WRC can hope for a bad WRC event.

steve.mandzij

5th November 2017, 02:12

I hope Rally Turkey is indeed a turkey of an event......and is dropped quickly....Why do you and so many others hate Rally Turkey so much? What has it ever done to you?

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mArvAlcao17

5th November 2017, 03:41

Why do you and so many others hate Rally Turkey so much? What has it ever done to you?

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They want NZ, and tbh so do I. But i don't understand the hate either

Duvel

5th November 2017, 06:18

When wil we know if rally Italia wil be in Sardenga or San Remo?
Is there a date when this wil be deceided?

SubaruNorway

5th November 2017, 09:59

When wil we know if rally Italia wil be in Sardenga or San Remo?
Is there a date when this wil be deceided?

San Remo is not an option due to too little accommodation, if I'm not wrong it was a gravel rally in the Tuscany area they were talking about? Correct me if I'm wrong.

doubled1978

5th November 2017, 10:23

I was talking to some Italian guys in Hafren on WRGB, and they said that San Remo would never happen as the costs are much to high for the organisers compared with Sardinia.

SubaruNorway

5th November 2017, 10:34

Why do you and so many others hate Rally Turkey so much? What has it ever done to you?

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Why was it dropped the last time it ran btw?
I've only heard from people that has been there that they don't wish to go back due to the way they were treated and very aggressive street sellers, i guess it's different where the rally runs though. To me the faster the better, huge difference watching onboards from Spain vs Wales, slow long corners on tarmac can get tiresome.

raybak

5th November 2017, 11:16

Indonesia might try running an APRC round in August after Malaysia in the dry season. https://fiaaprc.com/2018-aprc-calendar/ Relatively short transport distance between Malaysia and Indonesia. APRC teams don't usually rebuild their cars to WRC standards between events(Wrc returns cars to the factory and have a total strip down and rebuild)
(China aprc was cancelled this year)

Indonesia won't happen until they can reliably close the roads. I remember talking to Possum about when he ran there and he accrued 12min of penalties as he cleaned up a family walking down the middle of the road on a blind corner.

mArvAlcao17

5th November 2017, 11:50

Indonesia won't happen until they can reliably close the roads. I remember talking to Possum about when he ran there and he accrued 12min of penalties as he cleaned up a family walking down the middle of the road on a blind corner.

Wow, i never heard things like that before. When did that happen?

As Indonesian, i admit that could be a problem, and is a problem, although i never heard such complain during its WRC era

PLuto

5th November 2017, 12:09

Money, bro. It's always money. Huge market over there for all...''Some very interesting roads'' they say. For me half of the events don't have beautiful scenery, but we can't do anything about it. Yeah, Acropolis (or Greece) have stunning roads and it would be interesting to see that again. But unfortunately no words were about that at the moment.

Money, politics, contacts. Greece had big chance to replace Poland for 2017, but it didnt happened. Now the situation is much worse for them...

Simmi

5th November 2017, 15:24

I was talking to some Italian guys in Hafren on WRGB, and they said that San Remo would never happen as the costs are much to high for the organisers compared with Sardinia.

On the WRC website the calendar graphic does specify Sardinia now. So it's looking good - despite no official confirmation yet. I think next year will be the final time it's in Sardinia though.

ESTR

5th November 2017, 17:53

I remember last year when discussions was about sardegna. And they want to held event on continent but was no do because of earthquake damage or something..

Munkvy

5th November 2017, 19:36

Why do you and so many others hate Rally Turkey so much? What has it ever done to you?

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I think some of us don't like the fact that Turkey came out of nowhere, having done nothing previously to deserve inclusion and bought it's way into the championship...

skarderud

5th November 2017, 19:47

Why do you and so many others hate Rally Turkey so much? What has it ever done to you?

Sent from my Pixel using TapatalkIt's quite easy to understand, why some of us that are into international politics think a WRC-round in turkey is wrong.
Erdogan is one of them, the undoubtly not good situation in the country is an other one.
A country that put mayor parts of its socalled "enemies" into jail, without any scentence or fair trail, is not worthy eighter tourists or a world championship of any sort.
Its been like a WRC-round in Israel or Saudi Arabia.

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AL14

5th November 2017, 22:31

When wil we know if rally Italia wil be in Sardenga or San Remo?
Is there a date when this wil be deceided?

Sanremo will no more host not even the national round. Forget Sanremo as a possible WRC event, they don't have the money.

As for the gravel roads in the regions of the center of Italy... Nobody talked about that anymore.
The facts are simple: the Sardinian region don't want to give more than 1million to ACI for the organization of the rally. The organization requires, ACI says, 4 times that amount and gives Sardinia a lot of return on investment. But ACI still spends the other 3 millions.
ACI also had to pay more money to keep Monza circuit inside F1, so last year they said that they will have held the rally in 3 different regions in the center of Italy but I think they just said that to put pressure on Sardinian administration.

I don't know who is right or not and I actually don't care. Anyway now there is a big silence on that matter. I don't know if it is positive or not. Let's see.

Duvel

1st December 2017, 06:10

https://twitter.com/Rally_d_Italia

Rally Sardenga have shown there 2018 logo on Twitter. I guess this means we can be sure of rally Italia on the Sardinia island than! Great news!

electroliquid

22nd December 2017, 11:54

https://www.motorsport-news.co.uk/?p=65471

Rally Power

22nd December 2017, 13:16

https://www.motorsport-news.co.uk/?p=65471

I’m confused…a couple of months ago Ciesla said Croatia would be a plus to the series and now he’s ready to dump it?

ESTR

22nd December 2017, 14:34

I’m confused…a couple of months ago Ciesla said Croatia would be a plus to the series and now he’s ready to dump it?

He constantly change his words... You all will see that calendar will not change for a few years

Mk2 RS2000

22nd December 2017, 21:46

Here is an idea, why not allocate rounds to the countries that have the greatest activity in motorsport full stop. Lets look at the top 12 countries based on number of permits issued across all sectors of motorsport per year by their ASN irrespective of the size of their population. That would show the countries where motorsport is most popular and most active. That's where the WRC rounds should be conducted, support the countries that support motorsport. Sure would take politics and buying your way in out of consideration.

AndyRAC

22nd December 2017, 22:18

I’m confused…a couple of months ago Ciesla said Croatia would be a plus to the series and now he’s ready to dump it?

The bloke is an utter cretin who changes his mind like the wind; he's another like Mahonen who should be put out to grass and retirement!

jparker

12th February 2018, 08:37

Good news for Canadian rally fans
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/february-2018/canada-bid/page/5199--12-12-.html
Canada is great place for rallying, very glad they finally decided to give it a try.
I don't know what area they have in mind, but my personal best is north of Quebec City.

Franky

12th February 2018, 08:45

jparker

12th February 2018, 08:58

But are there enough narrow/twisty roads to keep the average speeds in the "normal" range?

Based on my observation north of Quebec City, there are are all kinds of forest roads. The possibilities are huge, so it's possible.
The area resembles Finland, so speeds will be a challenge, but I think is doable.
Anyway, don't get my words about Quebec. I have no idea where they are planning to do it.
Going west to Rocky Mountains is also a excellent option.

KiwiWRCfan

12th February 2018, 10:00

When you look at who directors are at least 3 are from Rocky Mountains area. Calgary & Kelowna are located either side of the Rockies. Rockies has absolutely fantastic scenery but is a lot further East so a bit more costly for the teams travelling out og Europe to get to. http://rallypromoter.ca/directors/

er88

12th February 2018, 10:33

It'll go to the area where it's most accessible to spectators.

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PLuto

13th February 2018, 19:24

Does anybody here know what are differences between canadian rules in rallysport and international one?

N.O.T

13th February 2018, 21:04

Does anybody here know what are differences between canadian rules in rallysport and international one?

they are the same... but with more leafs and maple syrup

jparker

14th February 2018, 08:19

Does anybody here know what are differences between canadian rules in rallysport and international one?

I'm aware of two:
1. You can't watch rally event outside one or two designated spectators point, ever.
2. Canadian rally car will never meet homologation specs set by FIA.

and probably many more, but does it really matter?

tommeke_B

14th February 2018, 08:50

I'm aware of two:
1. You can't watch rally event outside one or two designated spectators point, ever.

So staying home for this rally is the most interesting option.

PLuto

19th February 2018, 22:34

I'm aware of two:
1. You can't watch rally event outside one or two designated spectators point, ever.
2. Canadian rally car will never meet homologation specs set by FIA.

and probably many more, but does it really matter?

So tell me the reason why to go with FIA event to Canada? Only because it is in North America (so out of Europe) and should have some money?

Rally Hokkaido

20th February 2018, 04:06

I'm aware of two:
1. You can't watch rally event outside one or two designated spectators point, ever.
2. Canadian rally car will never meet homologation specs set by FIA.

and probably many more, but does it really matter?

You can say the same two points about Japan. And I agree that it doesn't matter.