53º Rally RACC Catalunya – Costa Daurada 2017

[Eli]

http://www.rallyracc.com/2017/descargas/itinerario.pdf

Rally Itinerary for the 53rd edition of the RACC, 312Km & 19 Stages, first day gravel, other 2 days on tarmac.

[rage82]

I'll be there for 2-nd consecutive year. Flights and apartment already booked, only 3 months left:)

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[Duvel]

I'll be there for 2-nd consecutive year. Flights and apartment already booked, only 3 months left:)

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For us this wil be first time WRC Catalunya, Flights, apartment booked.

Realy don't know what to expect from this one, how many stages a day is possible? Some things we have to see?

[EstWRC]

so out of this itinerary what are the stages you recommend who have been there? it will be my first time too

[Simmi]

Go on then I think I'm going to be at this one too. I last went in 2015 and really enjoyed it. Just need to sort out a flight.

Need to do a bit of research because as I understand it the stage names often change, but that doesn't mean they are new stages by any means. I don't have enough experience to start recommending stages. I just know that if you want to watch the famous roundabout then definitely wear some walking boots! Not super easy to stand on that banking.

[Nelly]

There's excellent viewing in the village of Viabala des arc which is ss3. El montmell on Saturday is an excellent fast stage with plenty of cuts. But there's a new stage on Saturday so I'll have to wait to drive that and see. The opening section of the Pradit stage is fast and bumpy with some excellent viewing, it's the power stage also. The service on Friday evening is brilliant as well, watching the change over from gravel to tarmac spec

[EstWRC]

thanks a lot!

[polomayu]

Hi, i hope this year i will be in the event like other years, i let you here some of my videos, if you like any zone, only have to ask and i will answer if is in this years route and where it is.
2016
https://youtu.be/ROIlj_70TNE
2015
https://youtu.be/WfkmbkC42iw
2014
https://youtu.be/HbNRl9mLmR0
Time to study!!!

[rage82]

I think it would be very difficult to watch more than 2 stages on Friday. There's only 1 hour between the start of the 1-st stage and the 3-rd and you have to drive at least 30 min. from the start of ss1 to the start of ss3 which is the shortest route. Add 3 min gaps probably for the WRC cars and the time to go back to the car and the time to park for the next stage, so it's getting really harder to do it. Last year we were watching ss3 at the end of the tarmac section, not bad but nothing special too. Gorban and Veiby lost the rear of the car on the hairpin to the gravel section, and that's was it. The second pass we were on the compression where Kruuda has his crash in 2014. I'm talking about this place: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU2NgA6UuyQ. It's really spectacular, I'm considering to go there again this year. There's also alternative path along the stage meaning you can reach the place even coming later. There's also nice looking spectating place in the woods towards the end of ss3 but never been there, maybe I'll try to check it this year but I need to figure out the easiest way to go, as it looks a bit remote from the other zones.
On Saturday it looks like there's a chance to watch more 2 stages with 2 min gaps for the wrc cars. If you are near the start of El Montmell watching the first 20 cars, maybe it would be possible to go towards the end of Savalla but Savalla is a new stage( for me ) not sure where you can watch and how is the acces.
If somebody has any ideas how to watch more stages on Friday, feel free to share it.

[EstWRC]

im hugely disappointed in this itinerary, like you said you cant watch more than 2 stages per day which makes 6 stages total over weekend.For example in finland we will see 5 stages on friday ALONE.

what a *******

[MartijnS]

Friday really tough yes, same as last year. We had to walk quite a big end to Terra Alta cause of the mud and some trouble on the way to the stage from the first stage and arrived there when the same car passed as the last we seen on the first stage, so that made no sense.
Saturday 4 stages should be possible if you leave after the WRCs on the first one of the loop I think. Sunday we did 3 last year.

Edit: two on sunday..

[df93]

I wonder who will be entering - there will be Ogier, Tanak, Evans, Paddon, Neuville, Sordo, JML, Hänninen, Lappi I assume. Who will Citroen send - Meeke, Breen, Mikkelsen, Lefebrve or Al Qassimi?

Ostberg and Sunnien too I wonder?

Over the past few years we have managed two stages on Friday, three Saturday then two on Sunday.

[Andre Oliveira]

Suninen initial plan was Poland, Finland and Wales (depending WRC2 standings).

[AnttiL]

Who will Citroen send - Meeke, Breen, Mikkelsen, Lefebrve or Al Qassimi?

I think they already said that Lefebvre's next rally is Spain and Mikkelsen is a free agent after Deutchland. So most likely it's just Meeke-Breen-Lefebvre. Or maybe, regarding the recent news, they'll put Loeb in the car?

I wonder what Østberg's situation is, does he really have a problem with getting the tarmac suspension for the new Fiesta and will he contest Spain as well with WRC2 car or just skip it?

[Atob WRC]

Here beginning to prepare the stages for next Ral·li RACC, with a lot of emotion in the battle for the championship this year.

Our video of last year, where with the rain of friday morning we have enjoyed a lot!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWmwGlT6BH8

[Edemaca]

Anyone know if there will be a monday test?
Last year the gravel tests were in which zone?

[df93]

Going by Motorsport News' article about Ostberg withdrawing from Germany, he is planning Rally Spain.

https://www.motorsport-news.co.uk/news/rallying-news/wrc/ostberg-withdraws-from-rally-germany/

[HarriK]

It will be first time also for me WRC Catalunya, Flights booked monday to monday :)

[Hartusvuori]

It will be first time also for me WRC Catalunya, Flights booked monday to monday :)

First time here too, but with tighter schedule Wednesday to Sunday.

[br21]

I'll be there also, 6th or 7th time, but this year only Saturday.

[HarriK]

Is there free parking places (side by the road) at the centre of Salou? Some says there is a plenty if there is no holiday season.

[rage82]

Yes, after the high season it's free to park on the streets.

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[dimviii]

Teemu / Rallirinki‏*@HartusvuoriWRC
Skoda Motorsport will enter @JuusoNordgren to #WRC @RallyRACC as a part of their young driver test program. Huge chance for Nordgren!

[Hartusvuori]

Teemu / Rallirinki‏*@HartusvuoriWRC
Skoda Motorsport will enter @JuusoNordgren to #WRC @RallyRACC as a part of their young driver test program. Huge chance for Nordgren!

https://www.skoda-motorsport.com/en/skoda-starts-young-drivers-program-juuso-nordgren-competing-rallyracc-catalunya/

[nafpaktos]

Timo Jouhki or EVEN?

[Myrvold]

Timo Jouhki or EVEN?

Not EVEN. They are still "only" with Mikkelsen, Lappi, Tidemand, Veiby and Kristofferson.

[Teme]

Timo Jouhki or EVEN?

Maybe Gardemeister has something to do with this. Former Skoda factory driver.

[pantealex]

Timo Jouhki or EVEN?

and NOT Jouhki, he still has Latvala, Suninen and K.Rovanperä.

Grönholm is with Huttunen.

Nordgren has been driving with Gardemaister´s FabiaR5

[liposh]

Testing Nordgren on tarmac doesn´t theoretically make any sense, but it is the real key for meaning of all this thing about testing "young guns". BUT honestly I still don´t get it :)

[Hartusvuori]

Maybe Gardemeister has something to do with this. Former Skoda factory driver.

I think Nordgren's talent has got something to do with this.

[Teme]

I think Nordgren's talent has got something to do with this.

Well of course, but very often that just isn't enough nowadays.

[pantealex]

Al-Qassimi, Lefebvre and Meeke officially announced as C3 WRC drivers (Breen recce only)

[Eli]

Al-Qassimi, Lefebvre and Meeke officially announced as C3 WRC drivers (Breen recce only)

Stupid Stupid Stupid, but I guess if you want Qassimi to continue bringing in the money he needs to drive every once in a while.

[Mintexmemory]

The 'fifth man' has done his reputation no harm this season. To be a consistent finisher in such a difficult car speaks volumes - Craig is not a second Matthew Wilson (ask Scott for his opinion please, someone!). It was Al Qassimi who was strongly pro-Breen and gave him his first rides so I can't imagine Craig will lose too much sleep.

[Duvel]

So regarding WRC17 spec cars it will be 4 Fords (Ogier -Tanak- Evans -Ostberg)
3 Hyundai's
3 Citroens
3 Toyota's

Or are there other suprises to come?

Al tips for nice viewing place's on Friday stage's are welcome b.t.w.

[AnttiL]

So regarding WRC17 spec cars it will be 4 Fords (Ogier -Tanak- Evans -Ostberg)
3 Hyundai's
3 Citroens
3 Toyota's

Or are there other suprises to come?

Most likely just this. Not sure about Østberg though since he skipped both earlier tarmac rallies of the year partly for not having a proper tarmac suspension set up in his car yet.

For WRC2 class we should see Kopecky and Nordgren on Skoda, and Suninen and Camilli (outside points) on Ford.

[Andre Oliveira]

Mads will be there.

[CWJ]

RallyGuide 2 is out

[dck1989]

RallyGuide 2 is out

its restricted access

[pantealex]

RallyGuide 2 is out

but entry list is still missing (less than 4 weeks before rally)

[rage82]

The entry will be available on 12-13 th- September, at least it's what is written on Racc site.

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[Andre Oliveira]

Nordgren

https://scontent.fopo2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21557656_1933790896888411_2948183409596882736_n.jp g?oh=8ba39e863b0e172543b2f551724437d8&oe=5A5EB16B
https://scontent.fopo2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21430633_1933789730221861_2647811291291163404_n.jp g?oh=ca05984992435bff825939f18c5b143c&oe=5A59A172

[Andre Oliveira]

Kopecky

https://scontent.fopo2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21314437_1932958670304967_2494880396386193510_n.jp g?oh=766f3310a3a76addfd11b48eae8a8650&oe=5A4B5FFB

[jbmarcus21]

Google Earth Map is now online → http://bit.ly/2rDetUr

[Priorat]

a rally guide is published for those attending:

http://www.rallyracc.com/2017/en/guia_tramos.html

[dck1989]

Any suggestions for where to watch on Saturdays stages?

[AnttiL]

Entry list was supposed to be published today, apparently it hasn't happened...

[Nelly]

Any suggestions for where to watch on Saturdays stages? zp3 on the El Montmel stage. Use the access 1 on the spectator guide, there's lots of different options for spectating and very fast

[Simmi]

All a bit too tranquillo at rally HQ. Still no entry list...

[Andre Oliveira]

Waiting Citroën confirm Loeb entry ahahah

[KiwiWRCfan]

Manana manana o el proxima semana ?
No se !
We are all waiting, for how long we do not know.

[Gregor-y]

Relax, it's Siesta.

[Nelly]

They must be on the beer in Danny Boys

[noel157]

Anybody flying to Spain with Ryanair?

Full flight cancellation list to end of October:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0rQC6QlfGaNTEJtVE0tMFpnNHc/view

[MartijnS]

Yes! Gladly our flight not on the list.

[AnttiL]

https://twitter.com/RallyRACC/status/910103931187023872

Finally the entry list

Østberg's in.
Camilli, Veiby, Bergkvist and Loubet on R5 cars outside WRC2, while the actual WRC2 will probably be Kopecky's race with Suninen being the best challenger.
Interestingly enough, Serderidis is entered, but not in WRC Trophy against Raoux and Gorban.

[Simmi]

Didn't realise Rhys Yates was planning on doing Catalunya. Don't expect too much pace from him though.

Also didn't know three-time world champion cyclist Oscar Freire was rallying now. He's on the national portion of the list in a Kia GT.

Solid list anyway. Wish I could be there.

[Hartusvuori]

https://twitter.com/RallyRACC/status/910103931187023872

Finally the entry list

Østberg's in.
Camilli, Veiby, Bergkvist and Loubet on R5 cars outside WRC2, while the actual WRC2 will probably be Kopecky's race with Suninen being the best challenger.
Interestingly enough, Serderidis is entered, but not in WRC Trophy against Raoux and Gorban.

I'd point out Jon Armstrong too as a DMack entry (yes, he's in WRC2). He was a joy to watch in Germany. I wish all the best for him.

[MartijnS]

Nice entry! Looking forward.

[Roy]

https://twitter.com/RallyRACC/status/910103931187023872

Finally the entry list

Østberg's in.
Camilli, Veiby, Bergkvist and Loubet on R5 cars outside WRC2, while the actual WRC2 will probably be Kopecky's race with Suninen being the best challenger.
Interestingly enough, Serderidis is entered, but not in WRC Trophy against Raoux and Gorban.

Finally!
I had a question about the cars at the bottom of the list. I see RMC used Ford Fiesta N5 cars. WTF?
What is it and what is the difference between a N5 and R5?

Only what I found is a video about this car... in Portuguese (or Spanish) :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOWbXCotNrE
Who can help me?

[Andre Oliveira]

Portuguese

[Roy]

Portuguese
So, and what is the difference between n5 and r5?

[Tarmop]

So, and what is the difference between n5 and r5?


R5 is a factory-built homologated 1.6T rally car, n5 is a proto class car, which use a chassie from one manu and different components from other cars. Mitsu evo engine, 4wd system in a Fiesta r5 replica shell is a popular choice, but there are many others. They say they can be 2-4 times cheaper than the r5.

[Roy]

R5 is a factory-built homologated 1.6T rally car, n5 is a proto class car, which use a chassie from one manu and different components from other cars. Mitsu evo engine, 4wd system in a Fiesta r5 replica shell is a popular choice, but there are many others. They say they can be 2-4 times cheaper than the r5.

Thnx for the answer!

[Mirek]

They say they can be 2-4 times cheaper than the r5.

4x is not real. 2x maybe but 4x for sure not.

[liposh]

Keep in mind there are also real factory R5 cars and they don´t cost EUR 180 000,- ;) OK, they don´ t cost twice more, but for sure they cost more then usual customer kits.

[Tarmop]

Well, i made my calculation based on a medium price of a competitive new R5 car, which i thought is 200k. A multiple Estonian champion (has raced/owned WRC cars, S2000, N`s) is also building himself one (Audi S1) and he said that is could be 2-4 times cheaper, depending on what components are used. Especially when one can save on expensive jobs and doesn`t count them.

[AnttiL]

Could you please use one of the existing R5/R4/Proto/etc threads?

[Simmi]

Finally got everything sorted for Spain. Will be there for the full rally! Five events this year (if I include GB). Not sure that will happen again but a nice way to celebrate the new era.

Genuinely no idea who is going to win this one either.

[dimviii]

Mads meeting with his gravel crew
https://twitter.com/MadsOstberg/status/912707695723139075

[go mads]

Heading to salou next week with 4 others and at the minute just planning on doing shakedown,start,several services,salou stage and finish. We are not hiring a car because it's doesn't mix well with the planned beer consumption! Does anyone know of any coaches/transfers that are available to reach the other stages? I'm sure this would be a popular option out of salou?

[OldF]

Heading to salou next week with 4 others and at the minute just planning on doing shakedown,start,several services,salou stage and finish. We are not hiring a car because it's doesn't mix well with the planned beer consumption! Does anyone know of any coaches/transfers that are available to reach the other stages? I'm sure this would be a popular option out of salou?

Just have enough beers and you don’t have to worry about such things.:D

[AnttiL]

Time for speculation.

Ogier has three wins from four last years, but I guess he plays it safe and just goes for a podium finish, even less if Neuville retires. Neuville stated it's the world title or nothing, but it could be also mind games. Latvala has also a string of good results from Spain but will he suffer again from technical problems? Does Sordo have extra pressure of fighting for his seat? He had a clean year without driving errors until Finland and Germany, is he losing it? Mikkelsen has been fast on tarmac this year and fast in Spain but how does he sit in the new car and team? Tänak won in Germany, but his second half of the season has been more or less win or bin, can it be anything between? Won't expect much from Meeke, Evans or Lefebvre. Hänninen can surprise on the beginning of the rally, Lappi at the end of it. Østberg has been in top 6 for the last four years so why not, he's been fast on the opening stages of the rally this season but started to lose it after the friday mid day service.

[Duvel]

Time for speculation.

Ogier has three wins from four last years, but I guess he plays it safe and just goes for a podium finish, even less if Neuville retires. Neuville stated it's the world title or nothing, but it could be also mind games. Latvala has also a string of good results from Spain but will he suffer again from technical problems? Does Sordo have extra pressure of fighting for his seat? He had a clean year without driving errors until Finland and Germany, is he losing it? Mikkelsen has been fast on tarmac this year and fast in Spain but how does he sit in the new car and team? Tänak won in Germany, but his second half of the season has been more or less win or bin, can it be anything between? Won't expect much from Meeke, Evans or Lefebvre. Hänninen can surprise on the beginning of the rally, Lappi at the end of it. Østberg has been in top 6 for the last four years so why not, he's been fast on the opening stages of the rally this season but started to lose it after the friday mid day service.

If conditions are dry, which it seems to be, i think we can expect Sordo near the top spot.
I also do think Tanak will be right up there once again, also latvalla.
Ogier going for the safe aproach, and Neuville struglling to keep up whit the front runners.

[go mads]

Just have enough beers and you don’t have to worry about such things.:D

Good advice that is. I'll see enough stages back home on rally gb in a few weeks. Danny boys it is! 🍺. Seriously think spain will be a cracker. Anyone of ogier tanak latvala mikkelsen sordo or neuville for the win, with meeke lappi and Evans all dark horses. Can't wait

[cali]

First time in RACC, can anyone tell me if there's also rally magazines with spectator guides and maps for sale? I've seen Rally RACC official website spectator guide, but for navigation this not enough.

[tommeke_B]

First time in RACC, can anyone tell me if there's also rally magazines with spectator guides and maps for sale? I've seen Rally RACC official website spectator guide, but for navigation this not enough.

They sell a program book with maps, but the quality of the maps is very poor.

[cali]

They sell a program book with maps, but the quality of the maps is very poor. Thanks Tom!

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[pantealex]

http://www.rallyracc.com/2017/descargas/inscritos_v4.pdf

Little corrections in entry list, Serderidis is now #22 and in WRCTrophy.

[AnttiL]

http://www.rallyracc.com/2017/descargas/inscritos_v4.pdf

Little corrections in entry list, Serderidis is now #22 and in WRCTrophy.

but an important correction :cool:

[EstWRC]

Luis Moya's predictions https://www.redbull.com/gb-en/rally-spain-2017-luis-moya-predictions

[pantealex]

but an important correction :cool:

Those co-drivers spelling mistakes were those little ones ;)

[EstWRC]

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[dimviii]

DMACK Tyres added 3 new photos.
1 hr ·
DMACK Enters New Era With WRC Gravel Tyre In Spain
• First new DMACK WRC gravel tyre tread for five years.
• New WRC tyre features upgraded compounds and construction.
• Jon Armstrong takes up second WRC 2 prize drive.
• Deciding final round of DMACK-backed FIA Junior WRC.
For the first time in five years, DMACK will unveil a new gravel tread pattern for WRC cars in the FIA World Rally Championship. The DMG+2 has been used since 2012, helping DMACK to lead five WRC events and win 47 gravel stages, but it will make way for the new DMG+22 at Rally RACC - Rally de España next week.
It was on this event that DMACK scored its very first WRC stage win back in 2012 and the British tyre manufacturer is now set to enter a new era. The new DMG+22 tyre features the same tread pattern which has been used successfully in WRC 2 and WRC 3 this season and should be more suited to the final three events remaining this year.
The pattern is more open than its predecessor, providing enhanced performance in wet, muddy and loose conditions, and features a revised run-flat construction. Both permitted compounds, the soft GS84 and hard GH34, are softer than the original compounds used earlier in the season.
DMACK’s WRC stars Elfyn Evans and Dan Barritt will use the new gravel tyres for Friday’s opening day – they have a total of 16 tyres at their disposal. Then their Ford Fiesta WRC will get changed to Tarmac specification by the expert M-Sport World Rally Team technicians during a specially-extended service on Friday evening.
They swap to DMT-RC22 asphalt tyres and have S6+ soft and H6+BB hard options for two days of racing on Spain’s smooth, flowing Tarmac roads.
After a strong display on their WRC 2 debut in Germany, Drive DMACK Fiesta Trophy prize-winners Jon Armstrong and Noel O’Sullivan have their second event in a M-Sport Fiesta R5 in Spain.
It’s also the final round of the DMACK-backed FIA Junior WRC with local-stars Nil Solans and Miki Ibanez aiming to shine on their home rally to lift the coveted title.
Rally de España starts from Salou on Thursday evening with six gravel tests on Friday in the hills to the west of the town. Then it’s two full days on Tarmac to the north of Salou before the final podium on Sunday afternoon.
Dick Cormack, DMACK managing director, said: “We’ve been working hard on development this season and the new WRC gravel tyres are the result of ongoing assessment and evaluation during events this year. We are confident that they will be more suited to the conditions on the final three rallies.”
Elfyn Evans, DMACK WRC driver, said: “We’re looking forward to trying the new specification gravel tyre in competition for the first time and it will be interesting to see how it performs in the range of conditions over the last three events. We’re pushing again for another strong drive in Spain and especially to help our M-Sport team in the manufacturer championship battle.”
Tyre Information: List 1 (WRC 2)
Gravel tyre: DMACK 205/65R15 DMG+22
Compounds: GS62B soft (10) and GH44 hard (14). Maximum 14.
Tarmac tyre: DMACK 225/40R18 DMT-RC22
Compounds: S6+ soft (12), H6+B hard (14) and W5+ wet (8). Maximum 14.
Tyre Information: List 2 (WRC)
Gravel tyre: DMACK 205/65R15 DMG+22
Compounds: GS84 soft (10) and GH34 hard (14). Maximum 16.
Tarmac tyre: DMACK 225/40R18 DMT-RC22
Compounds: S6+ soft (12), H6+BB hard (16) and W5+ wet (8). Maximum 16.
Tyre Information: Junior WRC
Gravel tyre: DMACK 175/70R15 DMG+22
Compounds: GH43. Maximum 12.
Tarmac tyre: DMACK 195/50R16 DMT-RC2
Compounds: S5 soft (8) and H5 hard (14). Maximum 14
Total for event: 24
Event Information
Based: Salou, Spain
Start: Salou, 20.00 on Thursday 5 October
Finish: Salou, 14.00 on Sunday 8 October
Stages: 19 stages, 310.00km
Longest stage: SS3+6 Terra Alta 38.95km

https://www.facebook.com/DMACKtyre/posts/1079071575563347

[Roy]

The political and secutity sitiuation is very difficult in Catalonia. What happend with the rally if this goes wrong. We don't know offcouse. But its a vulcano after 1 october.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/11/world/europe/barcelona-catalonia-independence-demonstration.html?action=click&contentCollection=Europe&module=RelatedCoverage&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article

[dimviii]

Traxx - WR is Free‏*@Traxx_WiF
Mikkelsen utilisera en Catalogne (règlement oblige) les réglages de diff de Paddon qui ne lui conviennent pas http://bit.ly/2xIW6C4

https://i11.servimg.com/u/f11/17/29/82/76/ahmikk10.jpg

any French speaking mate to elaborate?

[tommeke_B]

Q: The I20 Coupé WRC, has it made an evolution between now and your first drive with it, in spring?
A: It's difficult to say because that's a while ago. Also, last week, I have driven with the differential set-up for Hayden Paddon, which doesn't perfectly fit my driving style on gravel. I have to adapt because it's not possible to change it for Rally Catalunya. The regulations demand that certain elements are used on multiple events. This second day has been a bit difficult, but I remain confident. The team of Hyundai succeeds in making a setup which will be better for me on gravel. Having that said, with the potential of the i20, I'm sure I can be competitive in Spain.

[rage82]

He says that he has to drive with Paddon's setup for the differentials in Spain because FIA has some rules about the mechanical parts to be used in couple of rallies without changing them. And this setup is not the best for Mikkelsen but despite this he's confident that he can be competitive in Spain.

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[Revman]

Newbie Question....Will the shakedown be only on gravel or both tarmac and gravel?

[rage82]

The first part of the shakedown is gravel, the second one is tarmac.

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[Simmi]

Can't quite believe what I'm seeing in the news from Catalunya. Incredible scenes. Have to wonder whether it will have any impact on the event.

[macebig]

Can't quite believe what I'm seeing in the news from Catalunya. Incredible scenes. Have to wonder whether it will have any impact on the event.

I have the same feeling. If the unrest continues and the rumors about Catalunya becoming an independent state immediately come true, it will be impossible for the event to run.

[EstWRC]

so is it worth leaving tuesday or not? i dont believe it will effect the event immediately.

[macebig]

The situation is very fluid at the moment to say for sure. Personally, I would avoid the area for the foreseeable future.

[Simmi]

And now my flights to the rally disappear as Monarch Airlines goes belly up. Hopefully it's not effected too many others. Maybe it's a sign.

[tommeke_B]

https://scontent.fbru2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22154376_1671845589538949_3866571289819029477_n.jp g?oh=60d591819d13af1f3ae4d7b067851378&oe=5A45EEE6

RACC has released some communication, can anyone translate?

[Eli]

"in the face of the serious events that are happening in our country against people of all ages and conditions that they want to vote, the RACC, from the maximum respect to the plurality of the opinions of its partners, supports the peaceful and peaceful attitude of society and expresses its condemnation to any type of violence and to those actions aimed at depriving the citizens of the right to express themselves peacefully and freely"

Translated by Google Translate.

[KiwiWRCfan]

Story in AS that rally will not be affected by Catalan situation. The author Pipo Lopez is one of the most respected Spanish rally journalists. https://as.com/motor/2017/10/02/mas_motor/1506938583_707183.html

[Revman]

Thank you.

[jparker]

Story in AS that rally will not be affected by Catalan situation. The author Pipo Lopez is one of the most respected Spanish rally journalists. https://as.com/motor/2017/10/02/mas_motor/1506938583_707183.html

I don't think anyone can predict what will happen, but lets hope he's right.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLJdzfyXkAEeKyf.jpg

[Priorat]

For those coming by road you better come on Wednesday. There will be some main roads and motorways blocked to protest against the violence used by the spanish government on Tuesday

[rage82]

Leaving to Spain. I'll be in Salou from Wednesday, wishing a great rally to everybody.

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[CWJ]

National strikes at different villages with blocked roads by tractors today :(

[Simmi]

I can't claim to have any proper understanding of what is happening - but when the rally rolls into town surely it wouldn't be in the interests of the Catalan people to protest at their own event?

Flying out tomorrow anyway so fingers crossed...

[Andre Oliveira]

https://scontent.fopo1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/22089775_713473498857424_4075126400732108956_n.jpg ?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=12f4d89e1bba010328c84cd43a7ddbe8&oe=5A7CB56F

[Tarmop]

I can't claim to have any proper understanding of what is happening - but when the rally rolls into town surely it wouldn't be in the interests of the Catalan people to protest at their own event?

Flying out tomorrow anyway so fingers crossed...

1.Not all of them are fans, there are even haters everywhere.
2. They complain that no one is listening, so this international event, with live TV, is a great place to show themselves.

[Mirek]

It's quite natural that a lot of people see what's happening as far more important than some WRC event.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLNhPB-XoAIq56J.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLNhQ8pW4AECXmd.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLNhPvpWkAAmKSE.jpg

[Simmi]

Does anyone know whether strikes, blockades, no public transport etc is expected to continue tomorrow or whether it was just intended for today?

I was intending to catch a train from Barca to Salou in the morning.

[JAM]

2. They complain that no one is listening, so this international event, with live TV, is a great place to show themselves.

The images of police violence last sunday were enough to show the Catalunya problem on the internacional news. More than a simple WRC rally.

[Mirek]

True that. Even here in CZ it was the main topic in every single newspaper, TV or internet news server. WRC can never ever achieve that.

[tommeke_B]

I'm quite sure there will be plenty of police to keep all stages and road sections clear during the rally.

[tommeke_B]

https://scontent-cdt1-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t58.9793-16/16777575_140840493205327_6189689988326621184_n.mp4 ?oe=59D52E40&oh=23030c51fdd5260bfed25801d27717df&utm_content=bufferc1c55&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer Neuville's had 3 punctures on recce already. By seeing the wheels I think those are no "bad luck" punctures, either a lot of rocks on the road or extreme cutting.

[Tarmop]

Probably just gravel tyre mounted on a soft steel rim, which a racing alloy would handle with ease.

[Tarmop]

The images of police violence last sunday were enough to show the Catalunya problem on the internacional news. More than a simple WRC rally.

I know, but that doesn`t change the point that this would be a great way to protest.

[dimviii]

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22222057_1415768955138233_5165352690750328727_n.jp g?oh=63e964744bb0ba3770b0f2a92b66b7a8&oe=5A499D9C

[Simmi]

Any context behind that photo?

[er88]

Can they actually run this rally if folk are going to be blocking roads by cutting down trees, parking trackers and/ or vans on the route? (Whether it's part of the road section or even an actual live stage)

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[AnttiL]

Any context behind that photo?

probably another way to block a road.

[Simmi]

Can they actually run this rally if folk are going to be blocking roads by cutting down trees, parking trackers and/ or vans on the route? (Whether it's part of the road section or even an actual live stage)

I guess it depends whether the large scale protests continue. I've not seen anything to say people are specifically protesting the rally? Yet.

From the general teams and WRC PR machine you'd have no idea anything was happening.

[dimviii]

probably another way to block a road.
yes it seems the way it chopped, at purpose to block the road.

[N.O.T]

why would they not allow an event that will act as a promotion for their region to run ??

Is is a way to show the world how much of a retarded bunch of lowlifes they are ? or something with a deeper meaning ???

[Rally Power]

From the general teams and WRC PR machine you'd have no idea anything was happening.

There was a national speech from Spain’s king a few moments ago. He blamed Catalan authorities for the current crisis. It’s hard to predict what can come next, as the referendum was promoted by the Catalan authorities and got huge support from the Catalans. In this context, to believe that the rally can go on in a perfectly normal way seems quite optimistic. Anyway, fingers crossed for the rally and, above all, fingers crossed for Catalunya and its brave people.

[go mads]

Lucky there is no stage in barcelona this time.

[Simmi]

I'm sort of hoping the WRC is insignificant enough to slip under the radar.

[Tarmop]

As you can see just from the recce, it won`t or hasn`t.

[Simmi]

As you can see just from the recce, it won`t or hasn`t.

Yes but, is anyone able to confirm these were protests specifically targeting the rally? A day of Catalunya wide strikes, road blockades and protests was obviously going to impact the reccy. Question is did they block these roads because of the reccy?

[mknight]

This will be my first and last post on the non-rally situation:

Both sides are acting like they are playing a game of chicken with cars... and none turns the wheel or brakes.

Also following trough on the Catalunyan demands, lets say they would have declared independence 48hours after the referendum as they claimed they would. That would work out just fine right... immediately changing citizenship of all the millions of people, some against their will, immediately leaving EU and introducing border controls (joining EU would take time). Immediately getting to pay salaries, retirement pay etc for everyone and so forth. Really just a political game of chicken.

[go mads]

Surely rally catalunya is an event that the catalonian people are proud of and benefits them financially. I predict maybe some disruption but think majority of locals will be onside with the event. I hope this is the case for the organisers, competitors and fans.

[KKS]

Any context behind that photo?
It's a Spanish tree

[Mirek]

I heard that there were no conflicts during the recce. The people blocking the road let rally cars pass without creating any sort of drama.

[bluuford]

Any context behind that photo?

They are expecting cold winter, firewood is needed ;)

[jparker]

@Simmi, fix your pickems. You have Lappi listed twice

[er88]

@Simmi, fix your pickems. You have Lappi listed twiceNo he doesn't, but @Sollitt does.

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[HarriK]

I did today my recce to ss15 and 16 with my 1year old boy and wife.
Ss15 Starting from 1km before first trafic circle quite and good scenery. After circle to first village is very narrow and technical section.
Asfalt is smooth and good all in the stage.

Ss16 santa marina (also power stage 19) from start the asfalt is much roughier and maybe slippery. Before first village there is downhill with a couple of bumpy braking points before junctions. I loved especially one of them.
Also in middle point the is perhaps 2km view at stage at hills. Very good one but perhaps hard to get there....
We will see.

Tomorrow sd and maybe service park. I do not know if i'm not spectating the friday stages.

[Mirek]

Harri, I don't know how it's specifically with Spanish asphalt but here in CZ old rough asphalt always has better grip than the new smooth one.

[HarriK]

Harri, I don't know how it's specifically with Spanish asphalt but here in CZ old rough asphalt always has better grip than the new smooth one.

I talk with one driver and in their PET it was very slippery one with rough asfalt. Second test road was much more grip. Thats was his opinion...

[Mirek]

OK, it can be like that. I thought You based the assumption on the fact that it was rough and old ;)

[tommeke_B]

The narrow part after the start on SS16/19 should have good grip I think, it's well-known from SS Pratdip last years, great section. In general the tarmac in Catalunya is great and has good consistent grip if it's dry, apart from the very few places where gravel/dirt is thrown onto the road.

[AnttiL]

Latvala reported to Finnish media that he has a flu. I hope it does not affect his result badly.

[rage82]

A few pictures from today from recce ss Salou.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171004/543f0fd5be229ae2537a5879c67e05ec.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171004/50c7130efe2f1b0541dd2fe0b3aaddd9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171004/db49e1c9b57edf24c2bc3f47a0f00918.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171004/3a8ae53a2f0ea7440437f2ff43c748a5.jpg

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[Ucci]

I was in BCN on Sunday morning and didn't notice anything special execpt long lines of people waiting for voiting...and a lot of police. I came back on Tuesday, I'm in the part of BCN called Barcoleneta (port) and nothing is going on.....peace....unfortunately I'm going home tomorrow evening....

[rage82]

20 min before shakedown start.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171005/bb6043cbfbcefacfe4757173efe0d46d.jpg

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[EstWRC]

Man I’m very close to you then. More to the left of your side .

[AnttiL]

First cars through. Ogier is 5,5 seconds faster than Neuville.

EDIT: Apparently a puncture already.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLWmeAlW4AAIjcO.jpg

[cali]

I'm at 300m from the start and Neuville was by far the most impressive, a huge push from him. Tänak took really easy.

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[er88]

I'm at 300m from the start and Neuville was by far the most impressive, a huge push from him. Tänak took really easy.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using TapatalkSounds like maybe Neuville is over driving then, if it's true he's picked up a puncture

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[AnttiL]

Tänak took really easy.

And was fastest so far. Often times spectacular is not fast.

[AnttiL]

Lappi is 30 seconds down, problems?

EDIT: Apparently a spin. Well, good that only that and no technical issues or damage in the car.

[cali]

And was fastest so far. Often times spectacular is not fast.Yeah, crowd was going berzerk after Neuville and no emotions after Tänak. Nice clean lines but visually not a huge commitment. But you're right.

By the way, all Hyundais look really impressive, not sure about times though....

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[AnttiL]

Yeah, crowd was going berzerk after Neuville and no emotions after Tänak. Nice clean lines but visually not a huge commitment. But you're right.

By the way, all Hyundais look really impressive, not sure about times though....

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Sordo fastest so far, Mikkelsen fourth.

[rage82]

Neuvillehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171005/653d1b2832690be0764d5fbe6bc75e53.jpg

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[er88]

Meeke fastest so far for the second run and second on the first run. Shame Breen isn't here because if Meeke can't bring the car to a decent finish, Lefebrve and Khalid have no chance.

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[cali]

Shakedown usually means nothing...

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[er88]

Shakedown usually means nothing...

Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using TapatalkPretty obvious Lefebrve and Khalid won't be finishing high up the standings regardless...

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[AnttiL]

Shakedown usually means nothing...

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On this year's Finland shakedown, Meeke was fastest, but in the race (after SS2) he was off the pace. Meanwhile, the actual top 4 of Rally Finland was actually comprised of the four slowest works WRC drivers (not counting Al-Qassimi) of the shakedown.

[cali]

Pretty obvious Lefebrve and Khalid won't be finishing high up the standings regardless...

Sent from my SM-G920F using TapatalkThat's pretty logical to me :D

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[racerx1979]

Well Khalid is no where near Lefebvre. He’s usually beaten by the WRC2 guys

[AnttiL]

I think no one questioned that, but the point was that even though shakedown means nothing, it won't change the fact that Lefebvre and Al-Qassimi are slow.

[Mintexmemory]

So 3rd run in and discounting Meeke (why wouldn't you!) it's the Champ and his shotgun at the top. I must review the crystal ball thread tomorrow but I don't see Neuville beating Ogier this weekend and if he retires it could be all over (for all practical purposes). Haven't seen any action from shakedown but the descriptions lead me to believe that M-Sport have the right set up for the gravel day.

[wwbroe]

Ogier puts in besttime on shakedown in his fourth run.

[racerx1979]

The Hyundai’s started strong, but it seems their pace is off in the later rounds. It’s only shakedown and many things can change. Tomorrow will answer many questions.

[AnttiL]

It’s only shakedown and many things can change. Tomorrow will answer many questions.

And the shakedown results are here even more misleading than usually since they are now running on gravel spec but most of the rally is run on tarmac spec.

But, assuming Meeke did well on gravel spec, I expect him to do a good result as he probably does well on tarmac.

[pantealex]

Thank you.

Note: They were using gravel tyres and suspension at shakedown. Road was partly gravel and partly tarmac, so only 1 shakedown, not separate tarmac one.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SD vid: https://youtu.be/Lvkpnk2BfNc

Some looking pretty wild, esp Neuville.

[MartijnS]

Enjoyable morning at the shakedown. Bit more stricter security than other years, but still doable haha!

https://scontent-mrs1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/22219875_1483256535095644_6084051360040652746_o.jp g?oh=845c297d26603dea2188e5e486cb6461&oe=5A7B8C80

https://scontent-mrs1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/22220048_1483258008428830_3945339244949506904_o.jp g?oh=d19841f4352b6ef17d0254c31b6b4a82&oe=5A4082CB

https://scontent-mrs1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/22180003_1483257795095518_1675124132194660625_o.jp g?oh=d09fb49c8a70b492a027cd652097a801&oe=5A763C4E

Some more at https://www.facebook.com/pg/rallymedia/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1483256331762331 !
Joost couldn't get off at work, so no video unfortunately!

[Simmi]

I was in the right place, right time to get this Nordgren moment. This guy will go far haha. No idea how he didn't roll it.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLX0mRpXkAAFuDA.jpg


Was at the jump too like a few of you guys - as well as the 800 'pro' photographers blocking the view.

[AnttiL]

https://twitter.com/PeAChapaRacing/status/915869701854695424

Video of Nordgren and Veiby who did the same.

[L555MAT]

I was in the right place, right time to get this Nordgren moment. This guy will go far haha. No idea how he didn't roll it.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLX0mRpXkAAFuDA.jpg


Was at the jump too like a few of you guys - as well as the 800 'pro' photographers blocking the view.

He DIDNT roll??!!!!!

Cracking pic!

[N.O.T]

so when will the potato dog crash ? day 1 day 2 or day 3 ? that is the only question.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Heard from a friend who was there that Meeke's fastest SD time (his 2nd run) was done with no chicane in place...

[pantealex]

http://www.rallyracc.com/2017/online/tablon/documentos/Start_List_Ceremonial_Start.pdf

http://www.rallyracc.com/2017/online/tablon/documentos/Start_List_Section_1.pdf

#36 Yohan Rossel and #85 Emil Bergqvist both with DS 3 R5 are not starting but appear in yesterdays entry list.
http://www.rallyracc.com/2017/online/tablon/documentos/Amended_Entry_List.pdf

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLYa9rFWAAAE-HE.jpg

Certain WRC drivers' might want to consider this ! ;)

[CoyoteVillagra]

https://i.imgur.com/O3ASdt5.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/qe6zHMe.jpg



https://i.imgur.com/7zALOgT.jpg



https://i.imgur.com/fvZQxSr.jpg



https://i.imgur.com/6rANioF.jpg

[AnttiL]

http://www.wrchd.com/best-of-shakedown-wrc-rallyracc-catalunya-2017/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Tänak also on two wheels

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ah30zKFnM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHMIPY9UCWw

Tanak near roll at 0,32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHMIPY9UCWw&t=19s

[AnttiL]

https://i.imgur.com/6rANioF.jpg

What is the codriver doing?

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLYmiIEWkAENu5Q.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLYmjD7X0AECSno.jpg

[turves]

What is the codriver doing?

"Saturday Night" by Whigfield?

[USER47]

It's the co-driver who stole the camera. In that shot he is taking pictures of the spectators.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLY_hjYW4AIPkkT.jpg

[dimviii]

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2017/photos/rallyracc_catalunya_costa_daurada_2017/tfa__ft_0489.jpg


more
https://www.ewrc.cz/foto/36021-rallyracc-catalunya-costa-daurada-2017/208/

[dimviii]

"The break was long but it was good to relax a bit, the ambitions are intact: we want to be world champion, so we want to finish ahead of Ogier and take points from him. 'Ogier and see if we are able to make a difference in one or the other stage, he is well armed, he will not let go, the race will be very tight again this weekend,' detailed the Hyundai driver to our microphone.
Before adding on the Spanish course: "The others have progressed a lot compared to the beginning of the season, we bring here our first evolutions on the car with a slightly different aerodynamics and some improvements in the engine. I hope the changes will help us make a difference.There have been a lot of races during the day on earth.On the asphalt, I think the course will suit us better than the other years . "
Good news for Neuville is the arrival of Andreas Mikkelsen in the South Korean team. The Norwegian has a good speed and is a close friend of the Belgian in recent years. "We are friends so I knew he was in contact with Hyundai, he made me pass the message by ringing at the door ... I knew it had gone well for him and I could congratulate him because I think he deserves a place in the WRC, he can help us, but everyone can do it, by interposing himself between Ogier and me, and I will have to be in front of everyone. that there will be a Neuville, Sordo and Tanak as top 3 on this rally, "concluded our compatriot.


https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_neuville-il-va-falloir-calquer-notre-course-sur-celle-d-ogier?id=9727552

[dimviii]

After having been adversaries for many years, in ERC then in WRC, Thierry Neuville and Andreas Mikkelsen will finally team-mates on the occasion of the Rally of Catalonia ... and he let him know in a special way!
"I went to visit him in his apartment, dressed in the colors of the Hyundai team from head to toe, exploded with laughter Andreas Mikkelsen on the microphone of Olivier Gaspard, the special correspondent of the RTBF in Spain. was in the shower, so it was his girlfriend who opened the door to me, I went to the bathroom, and he was still in the shower. so I told him the news! He was very happy. "
Former Volkswagen official driver, who has just signed a contract until the end of the 2019 season with the South Korean team, will try to help his friend Thierry in his quest for the world title. Hyundai driver fastest at the shakedown this Thursday morning, he will already have a very important role to play this weekend.
"I will try to get used to the Hyundai as quickly as possible," said the Norwegian. "I have to help the team in the fight for the builders 'title, and Thierry in the one for the drivers' title. The team gave me a lot of practice days before the rally so that I could get to know the car and the coaching, all in a very short time. I feel good in the car, I will give everything I have to try to beat the Ford. "

https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_mikkelsen-je-suis-alle-voir-thierry-sous-la-douche-pour-lui-dire-qu-on-etait-coequipiers?id=9727882

[EstWRC]

Just got back from recceing the stages. This place is just beautiful and coming from Estonian autumn these crades at times are too much for me.

Shakedown was great. I was moving around a lot, at first I was where cali and rage were and the I moved to the tarmac part where all Hyundai drivers every god damn time hit the barrier. In the end I was at the so called stadium section.


Can’t wait for next days!

[Roy]

I am curious about how the 'Spanish/Catalonia' fans do react to Sordo at ceremonial start. Is there some hate or absolutely not, to him and other Spanish drivers? Could this be effect of his results? Who could answer at least the first question?

[MartijnS]

Was not that close to the podium but didnt hear a single thing against Sordo. Also not at shakedown. Don’t think it’s an issue here.

[smokingjoe]

I am curious about how the 'Spanish/Catalonia' fans do react to Sordo at ceremonial start. Is there some hate or absolutely not, to him and other Spanish drivers? Could this be effect of his results? Who could answer at least the first question?

last year in Catalunya, the Spanish fans left as soon as Sordo passed by. they were there for him..... not the sport

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLaYIteXkAAMcAY?format=jpg&name=large

[AnttiL]

The weather forecast has been all dry for the weekend, but now it looks like there could be some rain on the night between friday and saturday until the early saturday morning.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/es/les-piles/2325561/hourly-weather-forecast/2325561?hour=25

[seb_sh]

Oh boy here we go, first stage starts soon. Can't wait for another chapter of this crazy year! :D

[AnttiL]

Quite diverse tyre selections

Lappi: 6 Michelin LTX Force Hard
Latvala/Hanninen/Ostberg: 5H
Citroen Racing: 4S+2H
M-Sport: 3S+2H
Sordo/Mikkelsen: 4 Michelin LTX Force Hard +1S
Neuville: 6S

Five hard compound DMACK DMG+22 GH34 for @ElfynEvans

[Lead]

Here we go!

[wwbroe]

Neuville 1,3 slower at midpoint

[KKS]

uuuu Ogier have a good run. or Neuville too caution at this morning

[AnttiL]

Tänak fastest so far at split.

[Eli]

Good split by Tanak.

[wwbroe]

Neuville besttime by 0,9 sec

[wwbroe]

Normally the stage times should get quicker when moore cars pass on this gravel stage.

[wwbroe]

Besttime for Tanak now, Latvalla slower on split

[itix]

I would be surprised if Ogier or Neuville would be in the lead in the end of the day. Too much road cleaning is my guess...

[racerx1979]

Tanak is flying.

[wwbroe]

Sordo 6,3 slower at split, not so good for him:(

[wwbroe]

All 3 M-sport cars are at first three places at split times;)

[Eli]

All 3 M-sport cars are at first three places at split times;)

And then you get people saying that Ford has a bad car.....
Well done to them anyhow:)

[wwbroe]

Let's see how tyre choice will make a difference later on, especially on the long third stage.

[er88]

No real line forming for the guys behind according to Tanak and now Evans...

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[AL14]

Sordo 6,3 slower at split, not so good for him:(

It seems like he doesn't feel to be at his... home rally anymore. *badam tsss*

[wwbroe]

Mikkelsen second fastest on split, only 0,1 sec down on Tanak

[itix]

Not a bad drive from Hänninen ;)

http://i67.tinypic.com/jgth8w.png

Over 2 minutes ahead on such a short stage!

[KKS]

wow, 1st Mikkelsen split +1.1 only to Ott

[jparker]

Let's see how tyre choice will make a difference later on, especially on the long third stage.

What's the gravle vs. asphalt ration, do you know?

[KKS]

Looks like hard not work here

[KKS]

What's the gravle vs. asphalt ration, do you know?
10km of 38overall stage

[er88]

Hard not working and road not cleaning well, so far. Perfect for Ogier and Neuville

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[AnttiL]

What's the gravle vs. asphalt ration, do you know?

WRC radio just said there's 9 kms of tarmac, whole stage is 38.95 km

[wwbroe]

Meeke 2,2 slower at split, i was expecting more from him

[wwbroe]

Third time for Meeke

[wwbroe]

Ogier pissed at finish of second stage, why was that?

[wwbroe]

Neuville 2,5 faster on Ogier on second one

[wwbroe]

Tanak fastest again

[racerx1979]

Lefebvre might as well hand the keys to Breen between stages.

[wwbroe]

Second best time on stage one for Ostberg:eek:

[AnttiL]

Great time from Østberg

[Rallyper]

Östberg doing well! Ogier want time to change tyres before Terra Alta.

[wwbroe]

Östberg doing well! Ogier want time to change tyres before Terra Alta.
He is just pissed because it didn't go so well on 2nd stage:D

[jparker]

Östberg doing well! Ogier want time to change tyres before Terra Alta.

Why changing tires for only 9km of asphalt? Can anyone share what's the best approach to SS3 in terms of tires?

[tommeke_B]

Why changing tires for only 9km of asphalt? Can anyone share what's the best approach to SS3 in terms of tires?

Black round ones.

[AnttiL]

Why changing tires for only 9km of asphalt? Can anyone share what's the best approach to SS3 in terms of tires?

It's typical to switch tyres around between stages in a loop. They take two spares, take two tyres out midway and put two fresh ones in.

[jparker]

It's typical to switch tyres around between stages in a loop. They take two spares, take two tyres out midway and put two fresh ones in.
Yes, that's clear, but they don't bother with asphalt tires, right?

[wwbroe]

Toyota's seem to struggle sofar

[AnttiL]

Yes, that's clear, but they don't bother with asphalt tires, right?

Of course not. The tarmac on this stage has nothing to do with the drivers changing tyres before it. Even if they had a full tarmac stage with a remote service for tyre change in between, I doubt they'd go for tarmac tyres because it's really difficult to drive with tarmac tyres gravel suspension, the combination of high grip and soft suspension is not good.

[wwbroe]

Toyota's seem to struggle sofar
Alltough Lappi is setting very good time now

[tommeke_B]

Yes, that's clear, but they don't bother with asphalt tires, right?

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/9c/9cf25c84f8bbe8e528aba28d3201ad91809a84413501d9eb88 187e1c2a57f993.jpg

[AnttiL]

WRC2 guys are now into SS1

[er88]

Yes, that's clear, but they don't bother with asphalt tires, right?There's no hope for you I'm afraid

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[KKS]

WRC2 guys are now into SS1
And Suninnen a way fast than others

[AnttiL]

And Suninnen a way fast than others

Wow. Kopecky has trouble?

[wwbroe]

Great time by Suninen on first stage

[KKS]

Uuuuhhhhooo Meeke winning a stage!

[er88]

Meeke on the pace.

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[jparker]

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/9c/9cf25c84f8bbe8e528aba28d3201ad91809a84413501d9eb88 187e1c2a57f993.jpg

so long with your parity behavior, right? Nasty as NOT

[er88]

Uuuuhhhhooo Meeke winning a stage!Wait for Mads ;)

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[wwbroe]

Good for Chris

[itix]

Meeke best stage time... this is worrying :/

[KKS]

Wow. Kopecky has trouble?
Yes, cuz first day on gravel :D

[RS]

Wow. Kopecky has trouble?

I think it's just Suninen's time is exceptional (only 1s/km behind top WRC time)

[er88]

Meeke best stage time... this is worrying :/Why?

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[AnttiL]

I think it's just Suninen's time is exceptional (only 1s/km behind top WRC time)

he's faster than Lefebvre