Tour De Course 2017

[Simmi]

Pretty depressed about that if I'm honest. Dared to dream.

I just can't see how Ogier will get through the year with reliability remaining rock solid. I'd assumed at least 2 technical retirements. But let's see. For sure Meeke has already used up all of his issues, and more.

[mknight]

Lefebrve; imo they tried to progress his career too quickly without doing the groundwork. He went from R2 cars in ERC one year to a World Rally Car in WRC the next.. and then of course he had the accident.

Breen has less WRC experience than him and both his performance and reliability are many levels above. Right now he is fighting with Sordo on tarmac!

Lets remember where both Lefebrve and Hanninen came from. End of 2015/beg. 2016 Citroen and Toyota were looking for drivers and for various reasons these were one of the few available. Both teams were also complaining about the lack of available drivers (with proven performance). VW exit changed it around a bit.

EDIT: So yes you are right that they tried to progress too quickly. Sometimes it might work (Breen) but usually it doesn't. For example Hirvonen got written off after the fail season at Subaru, then managed to get back and fight for WDC.

[EightGear]

What a shame about Meeke. It was shaping up to be a nice 3-way fight as well.. Hopefully Neuville will keep it together this time.

[wia5958]

If breen finishes were he is am i correct in saying he will have scored most of citroens points whilst having done the least amount of events?

[AL14]

If breen finishes were he is am i correct in saying he will have scored most of citroens points whilst having done the least amount of events?

I think they will be more points than all the other two together. And driving 2016 car at Monte...

[dimviii]

Emyr Penlan‏*@EmyrPenlan
Blown it! Citroen C3 gives up on SS6 Novella1 @TourdeCorseWRC. Time for a beer @krismeeke @RalioS4C @Becsywecsy #gutted #wrclive

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C84fdtnWAAA6mvo.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C84e6hoXcAEbV8P.jpg

[dimviii]

Lefebvre will start tomorrow
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C84hmAcWsAAvcda.jpg

DMACK Tyres‏*@DMACK_Tyres
Very light damage when @ElfynEvans slid off the road. The car is now back in service
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C84lpcbXgAARG2s.jpg

[dimviii]

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17854824_10154936535195733_927948023588648968_o.jp g?oh=455bce27e9bae453957a0de63271d188&oe=5960C10D
http://www.wrc.com/images//News/2017/April/11082_KrisMeeke-Corsica-2017_001_896x504.jpg?
http://www.wrc.com/images//News/2017/April/11081_KrisMeeke-Corsica-2017_002_896x504.jpg?

[Mirek]

What happened to Bergkvist?

[BigWorm]

Pleased for Neuville, but he has let me heartbroken on previous Saturdays.

And Saturday isn't over yet.

[EightGear]

Emyr Penlan‏*@EmyrPenlan
Blown it! Citroen C3 gives up on SS6 Novella1 @TourdeCorseWRC. Time for a beer @krismeeke @RalioS4C @Becsywecsy #gutted #wrclive

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C84fdtnWAAA6mvo.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C84e6hoXcAEbV8P.jpg
I love this, fantastic hahah.

[KKS]

And for thoose who reqested direct link on rallyradio

http://wrcaudio-lh.akamaihd.net/i/wrc_radio_eng_1@308396/index_128_a-p.m3u8?sd=6&rebase=on

[RS]

Breen has less WRC experience than him and both his performance and reliability are many levels above. Right now he is fighting with Sordo on tarmac!

Lets remember where both Lefebrve and Hanninen came from. End of 2015/beg. 2016 Citroen and Toyota were looking for drivers and for various reasons these were one of the few available. Both teams were also complaining about the lack of available drivers (with proven performance). VW exit changed it around a bit.

EDIT: So yes you are right that they tried to progress too quickly. Sometimes it might work (Breen) but usually it doesn't. For example Hirvonen got written off after the fail season at Subaru, then managed to get back and fight for WDC.

That proves my point though. Breen spent longer in R5 cars in lower categories and he is now a more complete driver.

[dimviii]

"We did a lot of adjustments on differentials, shocks and body height compared to yesterday, and the specials were a bit different. Narrow, fairly dirty and with a lot of gravel, "Thierry Neuville told the RTBF microphone after the sixth stage.
The Belgian driver will now be chased by the other drivers ... "We are obviously not bad compared to the others, we managed to make a difference that pleases us well, if I manage to maintain this rhythm and I think we are able to keep our position, I do not roll faster than yesterday, I was already on the limit, I tried to do the same thing today "When the car behaves well, we know how to make a difference," said the Hyundai driver.

https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_neuville-on-a-reussi-a-faire-une-difference-qui-nous-plait-bien?id=9575882

[KKS]

And comment from ewrc:

clint [8. 4. 12:56:34]
Martin Koči a Lukáš Kostka oba OK , SUPER.
Koci and co-driver are OK. Cuz I'm worring about him.

[dimviii]

I love this, fantastic hahah.

I was laughing loud when saw his face at this photo.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C84r2PXXcAAQGC7.jpg

[Simmi]

Breen has less WRC experience than him and both his performance and reliability are many levels above. Right now he is fighting with Sordo on tarmac!

Lets remember where both Lefebrve and Hanninen came from. End of 2015/beg. 2016 Citroen and Toyota were looking for drivers and for various reasons these were one of the few available. Both teams were also complaining about the lack of available drivers (with proven performance). VW exit changed it around a bit.

EDIT: So yes you are right that they tried to progress too quickly. Sometimes it might work (Breen) but usually it doesn't. For example Hirvonen got written off after the fail season at Subaru, then managed to get back and fight for WDC.

Don't get me wrong I will happily fight Breen's corner all day long. But I think in fairness to Lefebvre it's maybe too simplistic to simply compare the amount of WRC car starts vs Breen.

I think what Breen had was a really good grounding and experience in 4WD and in high level events before he got into a WRC car. Like Paddon, he probably wasn't the most flashy or obvious candidate for that drive - but both have succeeded because they had those foundations in place.

I completely agree with RS when he says Lefebvre was fast-tracked too much. Same thing as Camilli. That said - I think if Lefebvre was going to develop into a future champion we'd have seen more from him than this - even this early. Citroen have given him some great programmes the last few years.

I disagree with the fact that Citroen were forced into signing Lefebvre due to lack of drivers. Tidemand and Evans were both available with more experience at the time of Lefebvre signing the deal. As was Suninen who has more natural talent. I think we all know why he is in the seat.

[Andre Oliveira]

What happened to Bergkvist?


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C84tNHdXkAAl2nX?format=jpg&name=large

[dimviii]

8 minutes behind wrc2 leader and crashed?

[Simmi]

8 minutes behind wrc2 leader and crashed?

I don't know but I assume he went off on the first stage of the day and dragged the car out. Got a 2min penalty but never actually started SS6. That's my guess but not sure. If so he was 3m13 back overnight. Not defending him but equally it's possibly not as bad as you imply.

[dimviii]

watch 2nd photo with engine oils next to c3
https://www.instagram.com/p/BSn00etl9GE/

[Frostmourne]

I hope Neuville can handle the pressure and win this!!

I think Ogier gonna win this season by being consistent and grabbing those PS points!!

[dimviii]

"We were a little less efficient this morning than yesterday, the style of the roads is a bit different today, in certain portions, we were not too comfortable, we will have to change something about the settings So that I will be more confident this afternoon, "acknowledged Sébastien Ogier, reigning world champion, on the microphone of our colleague RTBF Olivier Gaspard, special envoy in Corsica.

"Today, Thierry is very fast and has very good times, the gaps are still relatively low, it is not the moment to give up on our side. The pace this afternoon if we want to have a chance to fight with him. "

https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_ogier-neuville-est-tres-rapide-mais-les-ecarts-sont-relativement-faibles?id=9575909

[Mirek]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C84tNHdXkAAl2nX?format=jpg&name=large

Thanks

[dimviii]

Michelin Motorsport‏
#tyre info: all Michelin @OfficialWRC drivers with 5 Michelin Pilot Sport H5.#wrc #TourdeCorse

[Eli]

coming to think of it things are looking bleak for Citroen in the manufacturers title...probably will remain last for a while if they don't get both cars to the end in each rally...hope their fortunes improve...

[AL14]

SAT 14:10 - START INTERVALS
The rally organisers will increase the gap between the WRC cars as they run on this afternoon's stages. The gap in SS7 will be 3 minutes, while the gap will be 4 minutes in SS8.

Why those big gaps?

[Rallyper]

I think it's important to mention that they are driving a cars which are developed by them and Ogier is driving Fiesta which he tested just few weeks before Monte.

Just leave that talk, pls.

[Simmi]

SAT 14:10 - START INTERVALS
The rally organisers will increase the gap between the WRC cars as they run on this afternoon's stages. The gap in SS7 will be 3 minutes, while the gap will be 4 minutes in SS8.

Why those big gaps?

TV related?

[Francis44]

Just leave that talk, pls.

Why should he?! It is completely true. Most were driving the first prototypes of these cars long before the start of 2016 and Ogier just got in the car December last year. Only one in similar situation is Latvala with the Yaris.

[Rallyper]

Ogier would laugh at you. Or maybe agree because of his way of explaining things. Hope the first.

[KKS]

SAT 14:10 - START INTERVALS
The rally organisers will increase the gap between the WRC cars as they run on this afternoon's stages. The gap in SS7 will be 3 minutes, while the gap will be 4 minutes in SS8.

Why those big gaps?
And they started with 2min interval on SS7

[EstWRC]

Tänak's off from yesterday, so unlucky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYLOJQjT0hk

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Just leave that talk, pls.

M-Sport were the last to develop a 2017 car and with the smallest budget. Fact.

[Bartek]

Just leave that talk, pls.

So, you want to tell me that driver doesn't have influence in creating a car? Why Meeke and Citroen tested so much last year?

[AL14]

Tänak's off from yesterday, so unlucky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYLOJQjT0hk

I really like your commitment with Tanak but really, he can't be unlucky all the times. :)

[KKS]

Tänak's off from yesterday, so unlucky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYLOJQjT0hk
He was a 5-10cm away from line and was sucked by the gravel to outside

[KKS]

Latvala on attack for Breen position!

[Mirek]

M-Sport were the last to develop a 2017 car and with the smallest budget. Fact.

Tell us the budget numbers and the project time schedules of all teams, please.

Otherwise don't speak about facts when it's nothing but Your assumptions.

[AL14]

Ogier should discover the pleasure to blame himself for the first time in his life. There would be nothing wrong with it, it just makes you more man and helps you improve stuff.

Before the rally started and also yesterday he was very happy with the car and stated that his feeling with Fiesta was very high especially on tarmac. What happened in one night? Some spell or what?

He didn't develop the car ok, but also Latvala and partly Neuville didn't and they are not blaming their own machines but rather trying to improve things both in the car and on themselfves.

[Rallyper]

M-Sport were the last to develop a 2017 car and with the smallest budget. Fact.

So you think Ogier haven´t adapted to the Ford yet? Bull.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So you think Ogier haven´t adapted to the Ford yet? Bull.

He says it. Your assumption not is just that.

@ Mirek - Manu teams have less budget than MSport ... yeah right.

[Mirek]

@ Mirek - Manu teams have less budget than MSport ... yeah right.

Tell us the numbers, please. Also the time schedules. I would really appreciate some real facts.

[satukata]

Latvala on attack for Breen position!

Maybe Latvala got some tips from hanninen at service

[AL14]

Latvala should have made some some valuable change in the settings. Going much better now, even faster than Neuville who is fighting for victory.

Toyota is still a mistery car for me.

[satukata]

Wow JM 7sec faster than Sordo!! Maximum attack!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tell us the numbers, please. Also the time schedules. I would really appreciate some real facts.

Know all .. you prove me wrong.

[EstWRC]

Ogier 4 secs faster than Neuville

[Mirek]

Know all .. you prove me wrong.

Great, so You know nothing but speak about facts. Fine for me.

[satukata]

Flying Finn... Car and driver now working! Go Toyota and JM!!

[Simmi]

Latvala sniffing that podium if he can keep up the pace.

Wonder what Citroen said to Breen in service as the one remaining bullet in the gun? Definitely some speed in that Yaris!

[MikeD]

Ogier is slowly but surely lining up to win this Tour de Corse. (y) ;)

[BigWorm]

Think Ogier will snatch the lead now.

[KKS]

Flying Finn... Car and driver now working! Go Toyota and JM!!
It's all about developing a car.... and I glad that Toyota have nice setup on tarmac now. It promissing for next tarmac rallys

[stefanvv]

There is some dog fight over there

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great, so You know nothing but speak about facts. Fine for me.

You just make arguments for the sake of it and look silly.

A private team with bigger budget than any of the factory teams... anyone here believe that ?

Why did MSport not have their car to test til Sept 16 when the others were doing so months and months before ?

Money.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C848Y8PXcAEO9nQ.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier showing the champion he is.

[EstWRC]

Latvala got past Breen

[BigWorm]

Neuville slower than his first run.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville trying to blame a spin but time loss was progressive.

[BigWorm]

...but keeps the lead! Needs a nice stage coming up now.

[spiderem]

oulala Ogier didn't like to be beaten fair and square... back in the game.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier has tried many different set-ups and seems has found a better one.

[BigWorm]

Neuville trying to blame a spin but time loss was progressive.

It varied between splits, could very well have been a spin. Was in the first hairpin left according to him.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak slow even on rally2 and with no car problems. :(

[KKS]

neuville trying to blame a spin but time loss was progressive.
Really?
NUE 0.0; +0.0; +0.0; +0.0; 0.0; 0.0;
OGI -2.9; -1.7; -4.0; -5.5; -6.9; -6.0

[satukata]

GREAT 2nd fastest time!! Go Toyota Go JM!!

[spiderem]

so the fight for 1st and 2nd is open, and also for 3rd place between Sordo, JML and Breen... good stuff.
What happened to Paddon? no where to be seen...

[Simmi]

Why did MSport not have their car to test til Sept 16 when the others were doing so months and months before ?

For what it's worth -

The mule for the '17 car was shaken down during the week of Rally Finland last year. So late July. Malcolm said so on our flight out.

[steve.mandzij]

... She
Sorry...

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

So you think Ogier haven´t adapted to the Ford yet? Bull.

(1 - Ogier Sébastien / Ingrassia Julien): It's a bit better now on the set up and I can trust the car a bit more now. I don't think I've ever tried so many set ups on a rally!

[stefanvv]

(1 - Ogier Sébastien / Ingrassia Julien): It's a bit better now on the set up and I can trust the car a bit more now. I don't think I've ever tried so many set ups on a rally!

Aren't these new technical regulations just fascinating?!?

[Rallyper]

(1 - Ogier Sébastien / Ingrassia Julien): It's a bit better now on the set up and I can trust the car a bit more now. I don't think I've ever tried so many set ups on a rally!

You know what I meant. Adapted like the others to their 2017 cars. Variation in setup just another case.

[BigWorm]

What happened to Paddon? no where to be seen...

He's just not good enough on asphalt.

[KKS]

Horrible sound of C3 WRC :(
https://www.facebook.com/WorldRally/videos/10154530593185678/

[Eli]

so, what do you say guys will Thierry make it 3 out of 3 or will he keep his lead for once? also, nice to see the battle for 3rd, team wise I hope Hyundai secure the points & capitalize M-Sport's one car finish.

[N.O.T]

Know all .. you prove me wrong.

the person that makes the assumption must prove it you basic simpleton...

[dimviii]

Horrible sound of C3 WRC :(
https://www.facebook.com/WorldRally/videos/10154530593185678/

probably a conrod out of block.

[EstWRC]

did Latvala and Hanninen swap cars or what? Hanninen now nowhere

[KKS]

probably a conrod out of block.
Can he painless out of engine?
If he goes up he crash headblock and camshaft, if down - crankshaft and on both engine stop immediately

[Eli]

did Latvala and Hanninen swap cars or what? Hanninen now nowhere

is indeed quite odd. Latvala now with fire in his belly to take that 3rd place, took him some time to wake up.

[steve.mandzij]

Toyota once again proving their speed. I can't fathom how some people still doubt the car's performance.

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[satukata]

Toyota once again proving their speed. I can't fathom how some people still doubt the car's performance.

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Now even NOT is shut up :)

[N.O.T]

Toyota once again proving their speed. I can't fathom how some people still doubt the car's performance.

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what speed they prove ? they lost to every car that pushed on that stage...

[Myrvold]

I don't like that the stage is stopped.

[steve.mandzij]

what speed they prove ? they lost to every car that pushed on that stage...
Are you serious? Second place against tarmac gods isn't enough for you? How about a win? You are so stubborn you're blinded by it.

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[Eli]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/128864/engine-damage-means-meeke-cant-rejoin
shame, great shame....hopefully they'll bounce back in Argentina & take a win in Germany.

[satukata]

what speed they prove ? they lost to every car that pushed on that stage...

You have lost something. All top 5 cars fight and JM was 2nd fastest!

[dimviii]

Can he painless out of engine?
If he goes up he crash headblock and camshaft, if down - crankshaft and on both engine stop immediately

there are plenty of times that they don't stop immediately,when a rod get through the engine block.

[Simmi]

I don't like that the stage is stopped.

Medical crews going in to attend to William Wagner crew in JWRC. Duggan also showing as stopped in stage but not sure if that's before or at the scene. I think he'd have been the next guy on the road.

[dimviii]

stages 5-6 including Evans incar off
https://youtu.be/A8G_U-sLfeU

[A FONDO]

RB has just began https://www.redbull.tv/live/AP-1Q84GR69H1W11/fia-world-rally-championship

[stefanvv]

Can he painless out of engine?
If he goes up he crash headblock and camshaft, if down - crankshaft and on both engine stop immediately

If it is broken, more likely to make a hole on the bottom of the block, shafts remain undamaged and engine still runs for awhile.

[EightGear]

Are you serious? Second place against tarmac gods isn't enough for you? How about a win? You are so stubborn you're blinded by it.

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Tarmac Gods? These are WRC drivers, not tarmac drivers and Latvala is one of them, and competitive on tarmac for years now.

[stefanvv]

stages 5-6 including Evans incar off
https://youtu.be/A8G_U-sLfeU

Strange off for Evans, like the steering broke or something.

[N.O.T]

Are you serious? Second place against tarmac gods isn't enough for you? How about a win? You are so stubborn you're blinded by it.

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neuville had aspin
Breen wants to finish since he is lone shitroen
Sordo is cruising with nothing to fight

he only beat Paddon...

why you come here ? there are many sports out there that can ruin with your incompetence at thinking...

[steve.mandzij]

Strange off for Evans, like the steering broke or something.
Looks more like the brakes locked up to me.

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[A FONDO]

Turn off your tapatalk signature.

[Simmi]

Sordo starting to dig his heels in and fight for the podium. Will be interesting tomorrow.

[steve.mandzij]

Turn off your tapatalk signature.
Fair enough. Why?

[N.O.T]

Big loss from Ogier at first split...

[KKS]

Ogier +9.5!!!

[N.O.T]

probably a puncture for ogier +21 now...

[KKS]

+23.2 looks like puncture for Ogier

[N.O.T]

If he loses even more we are going to have a nice fight for 2nd tomorrow... or the win given how Neuville handles his cruising pace.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Just seen Seb is changing gears with floor shift

[dimviii]

probably a puncture for ogier +21 now...
after ss7 I saw some photos with opened bonnet.Maybe problem

[KKS]

Gear shift issue.... Tanak finnaly gives it back

[Simmi]

Fair play to Mike Chen on Red Bull TV for spotting the shifting on Ogier's onboard. Zero chance Desborough spots that. Maybe same issue as Elfyn then.

These Fiestas are not reliable - it had to happen sometime.

[BigWorm]

No mistakes tomorrow now Thierry, please!

[dimviii]

after ss7
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C85O5e7XYAErQfL.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C85O5fPXkAAJRQE.jpg

[N.O.T]

the rally is over... Ogier was lucky this happened on the last stage. Now he is too far ahead for the people behind him to catch up and too far away from Neuville.

[Sulland]

Fair play to Mike Chen on Red Bull TV for spotting the shifting on Ogier's onboard. Zero chance Desborough spots that. Maybe same issue as Elfyn then.

These Fiestas are not reliable - it had to happen sometime.

When was the fiestas reliable last?

[Rallyper]

Well, 53K stage tomorrow morning can change a lot, but hope TN wins.

[GigiGalliNo1]

TN can easily use up the 30+ seconds and not push. Easy.

[stefanvv]

Certainly Ogier's Fiesta isn't a tank. Battle over.

[EstWRC]

looks i jinxed Ogier

[A FONDO]

looks i jinxed Ogier

It was about time to happen really. Some of his haters could say he is again lucky for that it happened just at the end of the day at the short stage :D

[dimviii]

damn,first we lost Meeke,now with Ogiers problem is very difficult to have a battle tomorrow.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C85fWVeXUAI59ZM.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Crap coverage by RB TV here... going to a break as the leader (Neuville) started... then no vid of Ogier and guessing what was wrong ! Dont they have director who can see all cameras and tell them ?! Useless.

[dimviii]

It was about time to happen really. Some of his haters could say he is again lucky for that it happened just at the end of the day at the short stage :D

you don't have to be hater to see that he was ''lucky'' that the problem occurred at last stage till service,and that was the shortest one till now.Remember Evans yesterday?

[satukata]

Great time for JM and Toyota again. NOT is pretty quiet? Sordo said he tried maximum!....

[EightGear]

Great time for JM and Toyota again. NOT is pretty quiet? Sordo said he tried maximum!....
Are you going to be like this every rally?

"Wow, Toyota set a decent time, stop the presses!"

[Simmi]

Crap coverage by RB TV here... going to a break as the leader (Neuville) started... then no vid of Ogier and guessing what was wrong ! Dont they have director who can see all cameras and tell them ?! Useless.

Once the stage starts they just take the world feed no? Pretty standard on these stages to not show footage of the cars at the start of the stage - unless you're the first couple of crews. Normally just blast off the start and cut away (often time delayed too).

[dimviii]

krismeeke"Had a great feeling with the C3 this weekend, we now can go to every rally with confidence to fight at the front. Thanks to my team for their efforts. We win together and lose together"

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Once the stage starts they just take the world feed no? Pretty standard on these stages to not show footage of the cars at the start of the stage - unless you're the first couple of crews. Normally just blast off the start and cut away (often time delayed too).

But these are the LEADERS split by 2.2sec and one of them we dont see start and then the other is losing big time. But no video til nearly the end of the stage and just guessing from the expert commentators. It was a decisive moment and they missed it on a LIVE stage. Whoever was to blame, it was garbage.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport‏ @MSportLtd
Hydraulic issue for @SebOgier and Julien through the final stage of the day. They do a sterling job to maintain their second place.

Exactly. No panic, no throwing the rally away, like others do when they have a problem. He just accept the situation and makes the best of it.

[SubaruNorway]

But these are the LEADERS split by 2.2sec and one of them we dont see start and then the other is losing big time. But no video til nearly the end of the stage and just guessing from the expert commentators. It was a decisive moment and they missed it on a LIVE stage. Whoever was to blame, it was garbage.

That's why it's free, because you have a commercial break. It's been like that all year so no surprise

[BigWorm]

But these are the LEADERS split by 2.2sec and one of them we dont see start and then the other is losing big time. But no video til nearly the end of the stage and just guessing from the expert commentators. It was a decisive moment and they missed it on a LIVE stage. Whoever was to blame, it was garbage.

Maybe it's their philosophy while trying to appeal new audiences, to show the whole stage in one go rather than starting it over in every time a new driver starts the stage. I'm just speculating but maybe newcomers enjoy it that way.

Certainly for the more hardcore and experienced fans it was a shame that the Ogier incident was missed.

[COD]

Latvala, gravel specialist, behind four Tarmac specialists and Meeke. Yep, they suck, huh?

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Latvala is a previous winner of Corsica!

[Sulland]

Great time for JM and Toyota again. NOT is pretty quiet? Sordo said he tried maximum!....

The Toyotas keeps working so far. That is an important part of rally also these days.
To be their first asphalt rally, its ok, and they keep gathering data for the future.

[steve.mandzij]

M-Sport‏ @MSportLtd
Hydraulic issue for @SebOgier and Julien through the final stage of the day. They do a sterling job to maintain their second place.

Exactly. No panic, no throwing the rally away, like others do when they have a problem. He just accept the situation and makes the best of it.
Just a guess: you're a Ford fanboy.

Don't mean it in a bad way, FYI. I'm a Latvala fanboy myself.

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/SyJrwQe9Aow

https://youtu.be/f080faa4gno

[stefanvv]

But these are the LEADERS split by 2.2sec and one of them we dont see start and then the other is losing big time. But no video til nearly the end of the stage and just guessing from the expert commentators. It was a decisive moment and they missed it on a LIVE stage. Whoever was to blame, it was garbage.

I agree with You on this. They have missed to show the cherry of the cake. How they're suppose to attract new fanbase is out of my imagination.

[A FONDO]

Corsica WRC 2017 - SS1 - Chris Meeke incar cam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m1BXHJwNSA

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

free=0.10€, so you must have a credit card
That sucks..

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[stefanvv]

Looks more like the brakes locked up to me.

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Doesn't look like that, I'm not sure it's even possible. The car just turned a bit right, assuming steering problem..

[KKS]

Doesn't look like that, I'm not sure it's even possible. The car just turned a bit right, assuming steering problem..
no, it's clearly see with incar onboard, whell full to the left and hard on brakes

[stefanvv]

no, it's clearly see with incar onboard, whell full to the left and hard on brakes

It's not clear for me, fair enough? At this stage he is not hard on the brakes, in fact he should release them, but even he is, the car would go straight, but it didn't.

[Mintexmemory]

Well, 53K stage tomorrow morning can change a lot, but hope TN wins.

What are the odds on a stupid mistake on the first stage tomorrow?

[N.O.T]

What are the odds on a stupid mistake on the first stage tomorrow?

the thing with long stages is that none will go flat out, you cannot go flat out for 55km... far too risky, especially for the car to hold its own (tyres/brakes).

So i think he is safe.

[macebig]

There is ALWAYS a percentage of something going wrong for every driver and team out there.Remember Mexico...

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C86Uw-0XkAELOkk.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C86a-BpW0AA3dez.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C87AnHgXcAEA7Qp.jpg

[danon]

Looks more like the brakes locked up to me.

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https://media.giphy.com/media/xUA7b8D2FLfqOEbH5S/giphy.gif

[GigiGalliNo1]

Why is there someone holding cows testicles in that GIF??? ^^^

[KKS]

Breen on defensive attack :D Fastest so far

[EstWRC]

Breen on a attack here

[Simmi]

Come on Craigy boy!

[EstWRC]

He is past Latvala already, 10 seconds to Sordo now

[KKS]

He is past Latvala already, 10 seconds to Sordo now
And now Latvala fight back!

[KKS]

Haninen stopped :(
AGAIN..... fck!

[EstWRC]

Breen has made a mistake or burnt his tyres, not so fast anymore

[KKS]

Yeah, he lost time compare to all

[KKS]

Hanninen again on move!
He was stopped on a junction with gravel road, so probably only a puncture.

[KKS]

Craig's time on last split was slower than PAddon but faster than Latvala O_o. Both Craig and JML burn tyres?

[BigWorm]

Breen has made a mistake or burnt his tyres, not so fast anymore

I'd guess he was too hot on his tyres initially, gradually getting slower now

[KKS]

Ogier lost a lot of time! +18.8 on Breen and +16.8 on Sordo!

[EstWRC]

Ogier with problems, SOrdo and Breen will get past him with this speed

[dimviii]

Ogier +13 at last split!

[dimviii]

what happens at 5th split,everybody loosing a lot to Paddon.

[Mintexmemory]

Gear or puncture?

[KKS]

Gear or puncture?
I bet on gear

[EstWRC]

Breen got past Latvala, so he should be up to third with Ogier's problems and Sordo up to second.

[KKS]

Great time for Dani and good base for fight with Ogier!

[EstWRC]

Ogier to third, stayed ahead of Breen at the moment.

he must get used to this stuff with Ford :p

[KKS]

Not happy man. Yep, Fiesta - not a tank.

[stefanvv]

Evans also looses much, hydraulics again for both?!?

[KKS]

Evans time lose - consistent and calling Dmack.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Breen is the man!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier angry... must be the same problem not fixed properly.

[EstWRC]

Tänak not happy too, havent found the right balance the whole weekend and cant find out what it is

[KKS]

And Hanninen now again stopped. and looks like now - he crashed

[AL14]

Mechanical failures are part of the game. Unfortunate events but part of the game. Maybe Ogier didn't say what he has on purpose so that other drivers doesn't know how to react on PS.

[AL14]

Is Hanninen chasing Kubica's records? That's not easy task, better let them go. :)

[stefanvv]

I hope M-Sport don't use refurbished hydraulics pumps.

[Simmi]

Mechanical failures are part of the game. Unfortunate events but part of the game. Maybe Ogier didn't say what he has on purpose so that other drivers doesn't know how to react on PS.

Yeah same thing he did yesterday. Didn't let on there was an issue. No hiding it this morning.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

MSport: Losing time through SS9, @SebOgier is down to third overall. More information to follow as we have it... #WRC #TourdeCorse

[dimviii]

BILLIOT Jérémie‏*@planetemarcus
#WRC After SS9 #TourdeCorse @thierryneuville @nicolasgilsoul win 20 STAGES on 58 this year http://bit.ly/XL8nl9

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C89I4w3XoAA2-nG.jpg

[KKS]

Mechanical failures are part of the game. Unfortunate events but part of the game. Maybe Ogier didn't say what he has on purpose so that other drivers doesn't know how to react on PS.
Ogier play with some kind a different game 4 years in a row, and now true rules of this game surprise him.

[dimviii]

Sarrazin now 3,8 from Suninen, they have to push at last stage.

[Simmi]

Sarrazin now 3,8 from Suninen, they have to push at last stage.

Not worth it for Suninen to crash fighting a non registered guy. Only for pride. Sarrazin really impressive for me on this rally.

[EstWRC]

Ogier still stopped while others are heading to the next stage.

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C89MDJhXUAAGryf.jpg

[dimviii]

@TourdeCorseWRC @SebOgier arrêté sur le routier et mécanique.

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_04_2017/post-177-0-34681300-1491725853.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Long time til the PS... hope MSport can advise a fix for Ogier.

[KKS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C89MDJhXUAAGryf.jpg
This is a "haribo" sticker on a van?
Ogier now at Colin Clark service zone? :)

[dimviii]

Teemu / Rallirinki‏*@HartusvuoriWRC
#TourdeCorse SS9 Antisanti-Poggio di Nazza (53,78 km) ran in exactly same way in 2016 and 2017.
2016 - Meeke 33.11.6
2017 - Neuville 32.34,6

[dimviii]

TGR_WRC‏*@TGR_WRC
Unfortunately #11 Hänninen went off on SS9 at 48 kms. Crew is ok, but cant continue. #tourdecorse #wrc

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Be careful, some pictures being tweeted of @SebOgier working on the Fiesta @TourdeCorseWRC are from yesterday.

[dimviii]

Be careful, some pictures being tweeted of @SebOgier working on the Fiesta @TourdeCorseWRC are from yesterday.

photo before 3-4 posts, posted here is from today.

[dimviii]

Sun 10:13 - Ogier update
The world champion has been working on his Fiesta WRC since he lost a disappointing amount of time in SS9. We still don't know what his problem is. He's back on the move and heading towards the regroup.

[Andre Oliveira]

OGIER UPDATE: Looks like an intermittent electrical issue. He and Julien continue to liaise with our engineers to try and address the issue.

[A FONDO]

MSPORT tweet: OGIER UPDATE: Looks like an intermittent electrical issue. He and Julien continue to liaise with our engineers to try and address the issue.

[Simmi]

TGR_WRC‏*@TGR_WRC
Unfortunately #11 Hänninen went off on SS9 at 48 kms. Crew is ok, but cant continue. #tourdecorse #wrc

Can't imagine Juho was massively high on confidence heading into this season. He really must be struggling after this rally. Going off under Rally2 is never a good look.

[A FONDO]

So they don't even know what exactly to fix. The Fiesta was supposed to be a killer on tarmac but it actually turns out to be their worst rally of the season.

[BigWorm]

This is a "haribo" sticker on a van?

Shady...

[dimviii]

Neuvilles fans already at powerstage stop

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C89Q9moXgAABWDb.jpg

[Eli]

Shame Ogier hit problems yesterday & today however it will make the championship table slightly more interesting. Also if Hyundai can keep out of trouble they will close the gap or at least most of it in the manufacturers title. Hopefully Neuville won't bin it & Craig Breen fingers crossed will come 3rd.

[EstWRC]

Ogier pissed off at the end of SS9 https://twitter.com/TourdeCorseWRC/status/850992921939763200

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C89JyAdXsAA61Gk.jpg

[dimviii]

Regroup ahead of the final stage. WRC Live Radio is there interviewing drivers, listen here https://goo.gl/ffTj46* #WRC

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C89XvY5XcAAwxMG.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C89XvY4XgAAi9Qf.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C89ajp_WsAAbgNf.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Regroup ahead of the final stage. WRC Live Radio is there interviewing drivers, listen here https://goo.gl/ffTj46* #WRC

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C89ajp_WsAAbgNf.jpg

Ogier looks either relaxed or resigned... hard to tell.

Colin Clark‏ @voiceofrally
Hopefully a reset or a change of ECU will be enough to resolve @SebOgier's issues. Electrical issues notoriously difficult to fix on liaison.

[dimviii]

Hyundai Motorsport‏*@HMSGOfficial
Regroup before the #PowerStage! #WRC #TourdeCorse

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C89ezO1WsAM--Qc.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C89ezO0XUAAmPas.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C89ezOzXUAAxVBw.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C89ebNvXYAEpmqS.jpg

[KKS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C89ezO1WsAM--Qc.jpg

studying a next stage?

[Simmi]

studying a next stage?

Speaking to gravel grew and amending notes maybe.

[Eli]

will be tight there at the top.

[dimviii]

and Sordo watching a video from power stage,to refresh his memory.

[Crocone]

A link for Power Stage?

[dimviii]

https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_deux-speciales-du-tour-de-corse-en-direct-video-sur-la-rtbf?id=9573891

[Fast Eddie WRC]

photo before 3-4 posts, posted here is from today.

Think that one is from today, but at refuel (according to Autosport).

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C89l4UdXsAE4CDq.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C89l3pkXcAEHTkm.jpg

[Simmi]

and Sordo watching a video from power stage,to refresh his memory.

It's something I find interesting about the modern generation. They've got to the point now where they research and review the stages so much that they can remember them almost corner for corner.

That's something Paddon said in a talk before Finland last year. We see Latvala do it all the time on TV too. I guess having such limited stage miles compared to years passed allows the drivers to do that. It's the reason why Breen only lost 11 seconds yesterday doing the entire stage without an intercom. He said he pretty much knew it anyway.

It's a big reason why experience in the WRC is so valuable. So not only do you have notes but you also remember the stages.

[dimviii]

cars at powerstage with 4 minute gaps

[KKS]

5min gap for PS

[A FONDO]

acestream://114e62bfa55e9d5607f2d88144491fb53ca8fb6e Serbian 576p 50fps

acestream://f60367b0ada5815bd2349b78fe11ce68cac0363b Portugalian 180p 50fps

[KKS]

cars at powerstage with 4 minute gaps
wrc+ showing 5min
-19 leferbfe
-24 Evans
-29 Tanak
-34 Paddon
etc

[dimviii]

wrc+ showing 5min
-19 leferbfe
-24 Evans
-29 Tanak
-34 Paddon
etc

here 4 minutes
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/livecenter/page/4175----.html

[lnvs]

acestream://2bb040a6908cfaa274240e61e3fadc52554b98d9 English 720p

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier still wont speak at regroup...

[dimviii]

Ogier still wont speak at regroup...

Malcolm doesn't like this.


edit found that from French forum,but don't know the source

Ogier : "We have some trouble. I don't want to say anything now. I'll speak at the end of the rally. To be honest, I don't know if we can compete the Power Stage. We don't really know what's going on. We've done well this weekend and I hope we can be rewarded with some points at the end of this rally."

[SubaruNorway]

Only in MC WRC2 are allowed rout note cars? I'm sure they used them there

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Guess Ogier doesnt want to give away too much to the others before the PS.

[Simmi]

Only in MC WRC2 are allowed rout note cars? I'm sure they used them there

Yeah I wondered this. The entire field had route note crews on the Monte. I guess it's due to the ice though.

[mknight]

Fun fact
after today Mikkelsen has more points in WDC than both Lefebvre and Hanninen, with 2 starts instead of 4 and with R5 car.

[dimviii]

"The different manufacturers are looking at the results of the drivers and it would be very surprising that Mikkelsen is not in the WRC in 2018.
What I can say is that he will test a WRC 2017 before the end of the first half. "

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Reports Ogier now 'more optimistic'.. problem possibly solved.

[EstWRC]

puncture for Tänak, i dont have words...

[Lead]

A lot of understeer from Tanak's car.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Paddon with problems now ? Looks wild !

[steve.mandzij]

What a show from Paddon! Sideways even on tarmac.

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[Lead]

Paddon with the show.

[EightGear]

Lol Paddon taking the piss.

He looks frustrated though.

[KKS]

Paddon - star of PS so far.

[dimviii]

#WRC Paddon mistake SS10 #TourdeCorse not the right way #GoPaddon

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C89xjCzXsAAvX8w.jpg

[steve.mandzij]

Incredible drive from Latvala!

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[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C89yxSrWAAIFCKF.jpg

[Eli]

Incredible drive from Latvala!

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complaining about 2 corners of under-steer...

[EightGear]

Desborough calling the Citroen a 'CS3'..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Latvala's got him !

[KKS]

aaaaaa JML win just 0.1 overall

[dimviii]

Breen lost for 0,1 sec?

[Lead]

Too safe drive from Breen.

[EightGear]

I don't know but Breen always looks like he is on the brink of crying at the end of stages lol.

[AL14]

Luckvala

[Eli]

So annoying, but at least someone is scoring points for Citroen & important for Latvala's challenge.

[dimviii]

Too safe drive from Breen.

couldn't take risks with Meeke out of rally. Good result from him.

[Lead]

Ogier again shaking his head.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier with lots of problems...

[EstWRC]

get used to it Ogier, it will be all year long so.