74th PZM Rally Poland

[EstWRC]

latvala gone

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS12 Include Mikkelsen mistake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LFgspy-F4k&t
SS14 Nice jump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5GYutgLWnU

Now Mikkelsen was lucky.

Nice jumps by the Fords & Latvala... others boring.

[KKS]

agrrrr Latvala....

[EightGear]

Latvala stopped.

[dimviii]

But he was driving with a puncture and tyre had just come off the rim.

when you spin at this high speed and don't retire is luck,whatever the reason you spinned.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Slower split 1 by Neuville.

[USER47]

Neuville in troubles it seems. Very slow.

[EightGear]

Neuville slow!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

when you spin at this high speed and don't retire is luck,whatever the reason you spinned.

You deserve some 'luck' after 2 punctures.

[N.O.T]

Neuville plays it safe... wise choice for the championship.

[mousti]

Neuville with flat tyre

[KKS]

It may be a slow puncture for Neuville

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shit... Tanak rear wing off !

[USER47]

Neuville plays it safe... wise choice for the championship.
Yeah, having 0.3s lead in the race, pushing whole weekend like crazy, it makes sense to suddenly slow down and sacrifice the leading position...:rolleyes:

[steve.mandzij]

Fucking hell... This might be the end of Latvala's title challenge :(

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[EightGear]

Well its kicking off now...

[EightGear]

Latvala would have taken the lead now...

[EstWRC]

Tänaks rear wing gone just off just like Ostberg in sweden i think? fuck

[Eli]

Arghhhhh again I go for 15 minutes....what????????? the hell????

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville gets the luck with his 2 challengers losing time when he does too.

[EstWRC]

Neuville still lucky, he will easily take Tänak without his rear spoiler

[macebig]

Official: Ogier is the luckiest SOB in the world...

[steve.mandzij]

Everyone goes on about Tänak's Poland curse, but Latvala can't get a break.

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[mknight]

Yes quite likely he can get 14s back, now will it rain?

[KKS]

One good that Latvala didn't crash

[tolx]

ok now, 35 stage km to go until service - still some chances left to finish on podium.

[EstWRC]

why Ott? why always him? damn so angry...second time this season that Ford loses rear wing out of nowhere, cant let that happen

[Simmi]

Tough decision now for Ott. Does he push hard and risk crashing? Terrible rally to lose the spoiler.

[EstWRC]

Sat 16:06 - SS16: Tanak
He's through - and without a rear wing. "It just flew off. I saw Jari-Matti parked on the road side." Ott swears and then drives off.

[steve.mandzij]

Screw it: I'm rooting for Paddon now! Let's see if he can net a second place!

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[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDp7gAcXcAI-Mco.jpg:small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDp7vYZXgAAXQpC.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Could Tanak drive with the hatch open ? ;)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Ft7TgGoxwak/S-1Z61LYHMI/AAAAAAAAHT0/yFPHFs7pAnc/s1600/1987-FranoisChatriot--MichelPrin-Re.jpg

[EstWRC]

CMON POLISH FANS GET ON TO THE STAGES UNSAFE PLACES NOW AND CANCEL THEM AND HELP TÄNAK TO WIN :p

[macebig]

Thats quite a lot of damage for Neuville. Nearly the whole side of the car is ripped off. Things won't be easy for him neither.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDp7vYZXgAAXQpC.jpg


Neuville now only 2 positions ahead of Ogier,not so much points gain for championship.

[steve.mandzij]

To think Latvala would have been leading at this point... And it wasn't even his fault this time it seems

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[N.O.T]

To all the autistic simple basic retards that keep spouting out of their useless traps the word LUCKY for every WRC driver they do not like...

change the sport to tennis and get a dog house to live in...

[steve.mandzij]

To all the autistic simple basic retards that keep spouting out of their useless traps the word LUCKY for every WRC driver they do not like...

change the sport to tennis and get a dog house to live in...
What would you fucking call Ogier then? By no merit of his own he's fourth right now.

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[Sub_Skoda]

No... So sad for Latvala & Tanak :(

[Mariusz]

CMON POLISH FANS GET ON TO THE STAGES UNSAFE PLACES NOW AND CANCEL THEM AND HELP TÄNAK TO WIN :p
There are quite a lot Estonian fans, just ask them. Polish fans don't play these unsafes games ;)

[itix]

What would you fucking call Ogier then? By no merit of his own he's fourth right now.

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He's just pissed because he was wrong about toyota. Let him sit in his corner and sob...

[Simmi]

What would you fucking call Ogier then? By no merit of his own he's fourth right now

He was in fourth basically most of yesterday too. Was that not by his own merit?

[dimviii]

Sat 16:14 - Latvala update
News from Toyota: Jari-Matti's car was stopped by a technical issue. He is trying to fix it.

[N.O.T]

He's just pissed because he was wrong about toyota. Let him sit in his corner and sob...

i was not wrong about toyota.... they are nothing. They have a driver with winning speed with 2-3 wins each year and so far his only win was because the top 3 had problems...

[stefanvv]

Killer stage Pozezdrze is

[EstWRC]

so technical issue for Latvala....if you look at the splits then from the last split till finish Tänak didnt lose any time to Paddon....it seems he lost the wing about half way through the stage if looking at the splits but we do now know it for sure.

[macebig]

so technical issue for Latvala....if you look at the splits then from the last split till finish Tänak didnt lose any time to Paddon....it seems he lost the wing about half way through the stage if looking at the splits but we do now know it for sure.

Call the rest of the Estonian fans and scather the stage to locate Tanak's rear wing. Then, send someone to catch up with him and hand it back. Boom. Problem fixed!

[Mirek]

According to info from autosport.cz forum Ogier was stopped behinds finish of SS16 trying to start the engine. I don't know if he was successful or not.

[EstWRC]

Tänak driving with R2 fiesta

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[steve.mandzij]

He was in fourth basically most of yesterday too. Was that not by his own merit?
Yes, but today he dropped to sixth because of his own mistake.

i was not wrong about toyota.... they are nothing. They have a driver with winning speed with 2-3 wins each year and so far his only win was because the top 3 had problems...
You were completely wrong about Toyota. A shit car doesn't simply win power stages, nor rallies for that matter. Admit it: you're wrong, you idiot.



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[KKS]

At wrc+ Ogier still stop on road with Camilli car

[steve.mandzij]

At wrc+ Ogier still stop on road with Camilli car
I'm going to start my retirement dance :D

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[tolx]

Screw Ogier, do some downforc dance.

[KKS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDqBI5UXcAELzNH.jpg
coffee break for JML

[Eli]

So... without any of us noticing, Teemu Suninen is now 6th on his WRC debut, hopefully he can finish the rally and score some good points. Also, hope Tanak & Neuville manage to continue their 2 horse race as it was very fascinating to see them both fight...shame that Latvala got the technical problem being in the podium places, hopefully Toyota can sort it out before Finland so he can challenge for top honors over there.

[tc10a]

At wrc+ Ogier still stop on road with Camilli car

And is now doing 130+ kph on liasion?

[mknight]

Ogier is moving, 136 on road with 90 allowed looks like ok speed :)

[BigWorm]

Neuville still lucky, he will easily take Tänak without his rear spoiler

Let's see. The state of Neuville's left rear doesn't look too good. But yeah no spoiler for Ott means a lot less downforce. Maybe Paddon's in the mix all of a sudden!

[tc10a]

Ogier is moving, 136 on road with 90 allowed looks like ok speed :)

It hopefully leads to some big fine.

[mknight]

155 now! Must be following some "normal" polish road driver then.

[bluuford]

It hopefully leads to some big fine.
When Latvala crashed on PS, he did 140 in the city to reach SP

[mmm]

155 now! Must be following some "normal" polish road driver then.

He will still be overtaken by a white van man ;)

[adr17]

Tänak driving with R2 fiesta

https://www.upload.ee/image/7180689/19554084_1589818307729187_8791184085046958330_n.jp g
https://www.upload.ee/image/7180695/19598442_1589818207729197_3890184468799215262_n.jp g

less drag on the straights

[EstWRC]

Estonians confirming that Tänak had lost his spoiler already when he passed Latvala, they were at that spot, so even before half the stage and he just lost 5 seconds to Paddon from the beginning of the stage till the end....cmon Ott you can do it!!!!!

[mknight]

Well in comparison with the C4/Focus and earlier WRCs now you have huge diffusors so some downforce stays in the back.

[KKS]

...Tänak had lost his spoiler already when he passed Latvala... and he just lost 5 seconds ...
"Tell Malcolm diffuser at rear is enough"? :D

[Mirek]

But the question is how effective the diffusor is on gravel where the ride height constantly changes itself.

[Lord_Shaitan]

Estonians confirming that Tänak had lost his spoiler already when he passed Latvala, they were at that spot, so even before half the stage and he just lost 5 seconds to Paddon from the beginning of the stage till the end....cmon Ott you can do it!!!!!
Didn't Paddon have a slow pucture?

[BigWorm]

Well in comparison with the C4/Focus and earlier WRCs now you have huge diffusors so some downforce stays in the back.
But those spoilers were from another regulation and also smaller. I can imagine the impact from driving without the spolier now is greater than before. Even with the diffuser.

[Eli]

But those spoilers were from another regulation and also smaller. I can imagine the impact from driving without the spolier now is greater than before.
Don't know about that, you'll have to ask Petter Solberg about Finland 2005 ;)

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[EstWRC]

we will see in 10 minutes how will he go! this is Monaco part two guys

[mknight]

But those spoilers were from another regulation and also smaller. I can imagine the impact from driving without the spolier now is greater than before. Even with the diffuser.


Smaller than now, but bigger than on DS3/Fiesta. Before you kind of lost all rear-end aero downforce. Now you have diffusor and hull arches. Obviously its not ideal, but not like Solberg in Finland 05 ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLVhMN44pac )

[tolx]

Let's see what Neuville will do - push like hell or wait for Tanak

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ostberg showed how big the Fiesta was affected when he lost the spoiler in Sweden.

Its there for a reason.

[SubaruNorway]

Smaller than now, but bigger than on DS3/Fiesta. Before you kind of lost all rear-end aero downforce. Now you have diffusor and hull arches. Obviously its not ideal, but not like Solberg in Finland 05 ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLVhMN44pac )

It's a huge disadvantage, i was on the first jump after Østberg lost his in Sweden... And it's worse than with Solberg since you have more in the front now.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rain close by..
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDqHTvhXcAEuqf_.jpg

[racerx1979]

Rain on the way too. I love this season!!
Bummed for JML

[EstWRC]

raining, this should help Tänak

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport‏ @MSportLtd 47s47 seconds ago

If anyone comes across @OttTanak's rear wing, the team would be extremely grateful if you could return it to us in the service park. Thanks!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

According to info from autosport.cz forum Ogier was stopped behinds finish of SS16 trying to start the engine. I don't know if he was successful or not.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDqJZh5XcAUBUad.jpg

[racerx1979]

Tanak down 5 secs on Paddon at first split

[macebig]

Another bad time from Ogier. Wake up you Frenchman...

[N.O.T]

Another bad time from Ogier. Wake up you Frenchman...

he is 1 min behind paddon... why should he take risks ???

[Eli]

Another bad time from Ogier. Wake up you Frenchman...

He doesn't need to with the amount of things going on there.

[N.O.T]

Neuville attacks...

[macebig]

Because he may easily fall behind Sordo, if he continues like that?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

8.3s lost to Neuville.

[EstWRC]

not bad Tänak, he will hold Paddon but another win gone second year in a row :mad:

[mknight]

Because he may easily fall behind Sordo, if he continues like that?


Easily? He is still faster than him.

[N.O.T]

I do not think Neuville can take a big lead over tanak to be safe tomorrow.... i still think and hope tanak will win.

[racerx1979]

Neuville closing lead to 6.1 secs. He needs to take as much time away on next stage. Tanak will be pushing hard tomorrow and can easily take Neuville. Sordo needs to hold back Ogier to make the series more exciting ;)

[Eli]

Ogier will be fine guys, don't you worry about that.

[Integrale]

I'm not so sure the battle is over. If the difference in pace remains the same in the next stage, we'll have a mighty final tomorrow.

[dimviii]

Another bad time from Ogier. Wake up you Frenchman...
he cant do by speed something at this rally,he knows it,so he waits the victims from the dogfight between Tanak and Neuville,or maybe Paddon

[macebig]

Very good time from Tanak. Next stage will be crucial.

[EstWRC]

Neuville closing lead to 6.1 secs. He needs to take as much time away on next stage. Tanak will be pushing hard tomorrow and can easily take Neuville. Sordo needs to hold back Ogier to make the series more exciting ;)

Tänak doesnt have a chance if Neuville doesnt hit trouble IMO...next stage is 19km, the loss will be around 12-14 secs i reckon

[Fast Eddie WRC]

19.5k stage to go plus SSS... Neuville should have a lead tonight but no that much.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nearly 60k tomorrow. Should still be all to play for...

[AL14]

First hope is that Tanak will take the car in the road. I guess it is very difficult without rear wing. I would be concerned about it first. If Neuville doesn't hit trouble it will be extremely hard for Tanak to win this.

[racerx1979]

Neuville needs a good double digit lead. Tanak has shown enough pace to take 4-5 secs off of Neuville on stages and we will have 4 of them tomorrow.

[EstWRC]

well it is sure he will hold Paddon, now the question is how big will be gap for tomorrow with Neuville.

[HaCo]

What a rally!

[dimviii]

Epic Rally Tribe‏*@EpicRallyTribe
179km/h for @OttTanak @MSportLtd


https://twitter.com/EpicRallyTribe/status/881170541956276224

[N.O.T]

well it is sure he will hold Paddon, now the question is how big will be gap for tomorrow with Neuville.

my guess is less than 10 seconds... unless tanak settles for 2nd on the last stage instead of risking.

[BigWorm]

Neuville needs a good double digit lead. Tanak has shown enough pace to take 4-5 secs off of Neuville on stages and we will have 4 of them tomorrow.

So has Neuville. On some stages where both have been pushing Neuville has come out on top, on others Tänak has. It's a ding dong battle, tomorrow will be very interesting.

[EstWRC]

my guess is less than 10 seconds... unless tanak settles for 2nd on the last stage instead of risking.

that would be superb

[KKS]

Latvala problems
https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/881176897828384768

[steve.mandzij]

Latvala problems
https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/881176897828384768
Agh! So, so gutted.

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[er88]

That's Jari's championship hopes gone. Shame

[Integrale]

Very tidy pace from Lefebvre today.

[dimviii]

Paul Nagle‏
180km cycle today in my home town of Killarney for a great cause @DownSyndromeIRL @ringofkerrycycle @krismeeke

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDqUHxUWsAAoSg4.jpg

[BigWorm]

Very tidy pace from Lefebvre today.

Poland seems to suit him well.

[racerx1979]

That's Jari's championship hopes gone. Shame

Most likely, but strange things can happen. The current leaders having an off and JML winning.. still a few rallies left. He's done well and next year Toyota will be fierce.

[bluuford]

Actually, rain was not there yet, it should likely arrive while Ott is driving, for the second part of the stage. shower.

[EightGear]

Wow Tanak first split. He's crazy.

Edit: Neuville is pushing though!

[mknight]

Very tidy pace from Lefebvre today.

Compared to Breen especially and a bit to Mikkelsen he has some road position advantage. The comparison for the leg is 4s ahead of Mikkelsen and 20 ahead of Breen, prbly all 3 about equal if the conditions were the same.

https://www.ewrc-results.com/leg/36431-orlen-rally-poland-2017/?leg=2

Nevertheless compared with other cars all Citroens look ok today (again road position taken into account), also quite consistent between first and second run. They do seem clearly faster than "2nd level" drivers (Evans, Østberg, Sunninen) and even Sordo. Looks far from the top 5 though.

[Augury]

Tänak on similar pace with Ogier without the rear wing.

[steve.mandzij]

That's Jari's championship hopes gone. Shame
I wanted to discuss that... In the second half of the season the rallies he's got a realistic chance of winning are Germany, Finland, GB and Australia, so if he's going to pull off a championship he needs victories in those and nothing short of fourth in the rest. Since it's highly unlikely, it's sad to say he'll have to wait until next year again :(

Then again, he might pull a Neuville and make a monster comeback like I said above. Please, flood me with opinions!

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[mknight]

I wanted to discuss that... In the second half of the season the rallies he's got a realistic chance of winning are Germany, Finland, GB and Australia, so if he's going to pull off a championship he needs victories in those and nothing short of fourth in the rest. Since it's highly unlikely, it's sad to say he'll have to wait until next year again :(

Then again, he might pull a Neuville and make a monster comeback like I said above. Please, flood me with opinions!


I'd scratch Australia from that list based on last year. So his chances are not very good. Others can have issues but probably not all 3 of them.

[Meekefan]

I not understand why does not appear a team order to Evans or Suninnen giving the back spoiler to Tanak.

[BigWorm]

Looks like Tänak is managing it well.

[TWRC]

I not understand why does not appear a team order to Evans or Suninnen giving the back spoiler to Tanak.
Not so sure about the severity of the penalty, but I think Tanak would be excluded in that case.

[mousti]

Not so sure about the severity of the penalty, but I think Tanak would be excluded in that case.

Yes that's Illegal :D

[N.O.T]

I not understand why does not appear a team order to Evans or Suninnen giving the back spoiler to Tanak.

maybe because even if they did it would be impossible to attach it on...

simple british folk are the best...

[KKS]

Neuville into a lead. And I guess Tanak will lose more time at SSS than on this stage

[stefanvv]

Oh, well, 2.5 secs adv. for Neuville.

[N.O.T]

2.5 sec with the sss still... we are going to have a fight tomorrow, although i think Neuville will not push maximum...

[HaCo]

He , TN, has very bad experience on SSS, fingers crossed for him!

[racerx1979]

I not understand why does not appear a team order to Evans or Suninnen giving the back spoiler to Tanak.

Great thinking. Hanninen should give his car to Lappi and retire instead.. lol

[EstWRC]

Ott Tänak you beauty!!! what a performance

[Meekefan]

Are you saying that I am british?

[er88]

I wanted to discuss that... In the second half of the season the rallies he's got a realistic chance of winning are Germany, Finland, GB and Australia, so if he's going to pull off a championship he needs victories in those and nothing short of fourth in the rest. Since it's highly unlikely, it's sad to say he'll have to wait until next year again :(

Then again, he might pull a Neuville and make a monster comeback like I said above. Please, flood me with opinions!

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No chance in Germany. Just can't see him beating Ogier, Neuville, Meeke and even Sordo on the tarmac. Can see him winning in Finland though

[dimviii]

I wanted to discuss that... In the second half of the season the rallies he's got a realistic chance of winning are Germany, Finland, GB and Australia, so if he's going to pull off a championship he needs victories in those and nothing short of fourth in the rest. Since it's highly unlikely, it's sad to say he'll have to wait until next year again :(

Then again, he might pull a Neuville and make a monster comeback like I said above. Please, flood me with opinions!

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I don't thing that from what we ve seen till now,that Latvala had a chance for championship.

[Meekefan]

I was not aware of this rule. But now, make sense!

[AL14]

If I were Neuville I would push the hell out of me and win this rally. Ogier will not be slow like this all the year long. And Tanak himself is not far from him in the overall ranking

[eib1]

Tänak 2,2 sec faster than first pass :)

[Meekefan]

Great thinking. Hanninen should give his car to Lappi and retire instead.. lol

When I thought in this strategy, I rememred from Dakar drivers providing some parts of his vehicles for its colleagues that are ahead of the race, and even so they could not give the entire car, off course. But WRC has more restrictive rules.

[AL14]

What a driver Ott. I know this is his rally but making this times without rear wing in this kind of roads it means you are not normal.
He surely deserve to win.

[BigWorm]

Latvala has never won rallies back to back. I think it's pretty safe to say, with today's misfortune, he's out of the contention for the title. Ogier, Neuville and the new mature Tänak all have consitency and will be the top 3.

[EstWRC]

the season is still long guys, you cant wrote Latvalas chances down now

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDqdEGaXcAAvQ5A.jpg

[dimviii]

Evans

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDqd9oiWsAIn--d.jpg

[EstWRC]

http://p.ocdn.ee/40/i/2017/7/1/uhlobuuc.p55.jpg

[spiderem]

what if the spoiler is not returned to the service park? has the team a spare one?

[EstWRC]

i think they have, you can break it with crash too, i guess they just want to investigate how it did come off? and of course it costs money

[Tarmop]

Would look "cool" on someones e36...

[stefanvv]

Evanshttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDqd9oiWsAIn--d.jpgCrazy D-Macks:D

[stefanvv]

the season is still long guys, you cant wrote Latvalas chances down nowhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDqdEGaXcAAvQ5A.jpgHe really shouldn't take it so hard. Toyota's objectives this year are not championship titles.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak sans aero !

https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/881198019764510720

[dimviii]

day 2 Michelin video
https://youtu.be/k9LFVjC2t1I

[Eli]

Jari should not be disappointed, this is by far his best season since 2014, and considering the car is new, I would be very optimistic come 2018, he should know how to lift himself upwards & onward, I bet we will still see him on the podium this year: Finland-should be in the top running, Germany-need to see how much they improved the car on tarmac, don't forget he finished 4th in Corsica. Spain-good event for him or at least can be good, Wales GB- used to be one of his best events, Australia-will be the toughest for him, but his road position may favor him considerably.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shame no live SSS if only to see Tanak's un-spoilered car...

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDqfGfcU0AATx60.jpg:large

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/19468043_10207565526334954_4201913831419834545_o.j pg?oh=c441f6e5f06a9126547f16f9adb1a35b&oe=59D4EB56

[EstWRC]

Ott without wing https://twitter.com/RaigoReimal/status/881192848208658432

[Frostmourne]

Out of topic:

The championship this year is far more interesting than the last 10 years!! It is shame that VW left but their car was way above the competition! I wonder why not Skoda take a shot at WRC, they been doing well in the other categories?

[dimviii]

Ott without wing https://twitter.com/RaigoReimal/status/881192848208658432

Mads at same spot

https://twitter.com/KristianPints/status/881202868593840128

[KKS]

On videos Ott try some Rally Sweden technique, push rear-end into "groundbanks"

[tc10a]

Crazy video of Neuville: https://www.facebook.com/RallyeDream/videos/1486928341365597/

Again spectators close to disaster

[mknight]

Crazy video of Neuville: https://www.facebook.com/RallyeDream/videos/1486928341365597/

Again spectators close to disaster

Well the "safety" guy below the road downwards from the jump is probably even better.

EDIT: Also is this how he got the puncture maybe? Was same wheel.

[EstWRC]

0.6 for Neuville on super special....the gap is 3.1 seconds going into tomorrow

[AnttiL]

0.6 for Neuville on super special....the gap is 3.1 seconds going into tomorrow

The aeros probably don't matter that much on the rather low speeds of the super special

[dimviii]

Sordo

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDqwyVXXsAEt2-C.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDqwyVPXUAIWz9M.jpg

[noel157]

Crazy video of Neuville: https://www.facebook.com/RallyeDream/videos/1486928341365597/

Again spectators close to disaster

From all the videos I've watched this has to the worst WRC round in years regarding spectator safety. Crowds on the outside of corners, crowds both sides of the wrong side of jumps, fire engines going against rally traffic, absolute stupidity. Cannot see a WRC Poland again anytime soon, organisers don't seem to understand. Isn't there supposed to be a FIA safety steward checking prohibited areas and signing off crowd control measures?

[EstWRC]

they found it !!! https://www.facebook.com/pg/MSportLtd/videos/?ref=page_internal

[Rallyper]

From all the videos I've watched this has to the worst WRC round in years regarding spectator safety. Crowds on the outside of corners, crowds both sides of the wrong side of jumps, fire engines going against rally traffic, absolute stupidity. Cannot see a WRC Poland again anytime soon, organisers don't seem to understand. Isn't there supposed to be a FIA safety steward checking prohibited areas and signing off crowd control measures?

So where were Michelle Mouton?

[dimviii]

DMACK Tyres‏*@DMACK_Tyres
Three stage wins @rajdpolski for @ElfynEvans !!! Has anyone won three stages on a rally before with the times just 0.1s apart??!!

[noel157]

So where were Michelle Mouton?

If I had her tel number I'd call her and find out...

[Rallyper]

Crazy video of Neuville: https://www.facebook.com/RallyeDream/videos/1486928341365597/

Again spectators close to disaster

How could he manage that one?? Just crazy good handling from Thierry!!

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDq2jFVXoAEdV6i.jpg
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[EstWRC]

haha this is how they transported the wing? clever ones

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDq3tzPW0AAPXI5.jpg

[dimviii]

Neuville flying

https://twitter.com/nicolasgilsoul/status/881221257324265474

[Mintexmemory]

Latvala's best chance was this year. Next year the Toyota may be better but so could the Hyundai and Ford. Citroen can't be worse. Talk of Ogier being lucky, slow etc are so wide of the mark. He is the champ and this is not by accident. He is just far superior to any current competitor in analysing what is required in terms of pace for any given set of conditions.

[Rallyper]

Latvala's best chance was this year. Next year the Toyota may be better but so could the Hyundai and Ford. Citroen can't be worse. Talk of Ogier being lucky, slow etc are so wide of the mark. He is the champ and this is not by accident. He is just far superior to any current competitor in analysing what is required in terms of pace for any given set of conditions.

So he stopped wanting to win certain events only bcs of the WDC title?

[ujtik1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsc77VKg5So
Another angle of Neuville moment

[dimviii]

Talk of Ogier being lucky, slow etc are so wide of the mark..

so you see him being fast at this rally?

[itix]

Massively impressive of Tänak to not lose more time than that. It will be an interesting fight tomorrow. Shame about the loss of Latvala.

[mknight]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsc77VKg5So
Another angle of Neuville moment

I checked the onboard.

It's this moment that caused the puncture. So he wasn't "unlucky with puncture", he was lucky not to roll (over a few spectators).

[dimviii]

https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19554049_1400109910068907_4488157987353356112_n.jp g?oh=87e930b7c09f14a8de2d506ace2f6b2d&oe=59C59851

[EightGear]

I checked the onboard.

It's this moment that caused the puncture. So he wasn't "unlucky with puncture", he was lucky not to roll (over a few spectators).
Neuville seems to whine more and more lately, today he also complained about being 'unlucky' due to the rain.

[stefanvv]

so you see him being fast at this rally?I think he was yesterday. Today he's been unlucky at ss7 and seemed backed off, may be relying on Paddon's mistake, may be 2 points more don't make big difference, who knows.

[itix]

Neuville seems to whine more and more lately, today he also complained about being 'unlucky' due to the rain.

I've noticed it is a mark of a champion (I don't have a memory of Loeb doing this but I might have been too young to remember).

[dimviii]

I think he was yesterday. .

he wasn't

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDpNhV_UMAEY6VO.jpg

[Mintexmemory]

so you see him being fast at this rally?

No - he's not 'fast' but he's fourth. Mostly because the percentages are that there is a pace for an event that is optimum - not necessarily the fastest possible. Ogier is supreme at finding that optimum pace for finishing when others retire. What if Neuville and Tanak provoke each other into errors tomorrow.

[dimviii]

No - he's not 'fast' but he's fourth. Mostly because the percentages are that there is a pace for an event that is optimum - not necessarily the fastest possible. Ogier is supreme at finding that optimum pace for finishing when others retire. What if Neuville and Tanak provoke each other into errors tomorrow.

nobody said that he cant manage better from other drivers his pace at given circumstances
.At this rally he is slow.It happens.

[dimviii]

I've noticed it is a mark of a champion (I don't have a memory of Loeb doing this but I might have been too young to remember).

plenty of champions without moaning.Loeb one of them.

[stefanvv]

he wasn'thttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDpNhV_UMAEY6VO.jpgOh, I didn't know You mean "fast" as being down the starting order. My mistake, I'm sorry.

[RS]

Massively impressive of Tänak to not lose more time than that.

Yes, didn't Ostberg retire when that happened to him in Sweden?

[dimviii]

Oh, I didn't know You mean "fast" as being down the starting order. My mistake, I'm sorry.

being fast doesn't have different meanings.Except fanboys.

[EstWRC]

Yes, didn't Ostberg retire when that happened to him in Sweden?

yeah he did, he is talking about it here today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3YhyFYdMBs#t=122.858065839

Tänak saying they tried to compensate it with taking some spoilers off from the front and changing ride heights like Mads is saying but Järveoja said that still on every jump they felt the cars wants to flip

[itix]

Latvala problems
https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/881176897828384768

Missed this before... Seems like clutch or gearbox. Engine is definitely running.

[stefanvv]

being fast doesn't have different meanings.Except fanboys.There's always something new to learn in the "Relativity theory", thanks.

[stefanvv]

Missed this before... Seems like clutch or gearbox. Engine is definitely running.Reports say this happened after a heavy compression. Quite possibly a gearbox as Breens' c3 in Argentina.

[dimviii]

Οgier Tanak and Mikkelsen mistakes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epk_Y2pwVOE

[SPKen]

SS18 Kruklanki 2 jump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmlq_eVLaVQ

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Read all of Ogier's stage positions & comments here : https://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=424&crewId=35898&ssGroupId=1 and you can see when he was fast, when he was trying to push, when he couldnt do more, and when he was lucky and unlucky.

See... you cant make a simple one-word judgement.

[EstWRC]

so it seems we will have a wet day again tomorrow?


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[dimviii]

GHrallyemotion video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7_3oUpYjKc

[itix]

yeah he did, he is talking about it here today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3YhyFYdMBs#t=122.858065839

Tänak saying they tried to compensate it with taking some spoilers off from the front and changing ride heights like Mads is saying but Järveoja said that still on every jump they felt the cars wants to flip

You could actually see that it wanted to on the clips that were shared here.

[stefanvv]

SS18 Kruklanki 2 jumphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmlq_eVLaVQThat's one funny jump. Seeing the video so far tbh I'm amazed Neuville survived so far with just one puncture.

[EstWRC]

raining heavily at the moment and it is likely to continue till the morning...reported by estonian fans.

[jparker]

Rally Poland is rallying as its best. Don't really understand people who call for scraping it.
Safety issues are present at other events too.

[mknight]

I like the roads and driving (from tv/vid, never been there), but for example that moment by Neuville could have resulted in 10 death if he rolled. Which in turn might get us back to 1986-style ban on rallycars.

[dimviii]

TGR_WRC‏*@TGR_WRc
We are happy to tell that #10 @JariMattiWRC will restart tomorrow!

[steve.mandzij]

He really shouldn't take it so hard. Toyota's objectives this year are not championship titles.
He was calling someone, not putting his face in his hands.

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[AL14]

Rally Poland is rallying as its best. Don't really understand people who call for scraping it.
Safety issues are present at other events too.

Do you do it on purpose or you are really like this?

[dimviii]

Ziggysony video
https://youtu.be/eATuYmxT1gg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/19575302_1400154163397815_4565011570999471771_o.jp g?oh=2fe3eac5aa84c8c50be7812ea5731468&oe=5A10509B

The Fiesta looks sooo different without the spoiler... amazing what a balance it gives the car (in looks as well as downforce).

[AL14]

He was calling someone, not putting his face in his hands.

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Yes but I bet he feel terrible now. I'm sure he was really hoping to win the championship this year.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rally Poland is rallying as its best. Don't really understand people who call for scraping it.
Safety issues are present at other events too.

Like sending a fire engine the wrong way into a live stage ?

[Simmi]

So pumped for tomorrow. WRC really seems to be delivering on an event by event basis. Mostly I want to see both guys bring it to the end for the championship - but obviously hoping for a great battle.

[steve.mandzij]

Yes but I bet he feel terrible now. I'm sure he was really hoping to win the championship this year.
Oh, I'm sure of that. I feel the same as I did when he crashed out of Argentina last year.

I also have a lingering fear that his time is running out to win a championship, or that it might be out already. Maybe the Yaris isn't up to the Fiesta's level (let alone the i20), but when he says he pushes he's still not the fastest.

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[Mariusz]

Like sending a fire engine the wrong way into a live stage ?
Or like closing a gate that blocked a rally car during a stage in Mexico. I'm not defending organizers, but let's not pretend there are no ridiculous situations in any other rally.

[stefanvv]

He was calling someone, not putting his face in his hands.Sent from my Pixel using TapatalkHe probably did. But I think also he was veeeeeery disappointed from this. As also seen from later pictures.

[tolx]

I agree, that safety issues on this rally are outrageous, but still, poland should remain in calendar. Probably under different organizer team (with foreign members/advisors), but in the same region and conditions. This event represents whole north-eastern europe rallying in WRC (I mean, road configuration and climate) and should be preserved.
If not, then bring WRC to Baltics, we have experience with ERC and a lot better spectator control.

[CoyoteVillagra]

http://i.imgur.com/n2FyI4D.jpg

[EstWRC]

Morning! very wet final day ahead.

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[mknight]

Lottery is on. Prbly a bit of an advantage for Neuville judging by Friday morning, but he has had quite a few small touches into the banks then as well.

[er88]

If Neuville wins I think he could go on and win this championship. He's had the raw pace nearly all season to know he can beat Seb in a straight fight. Ott could win here and in Finland too, but I think the rallies like Germany and Spain may mean a championship dream/win is a year away yet. Shame for Jari but his retirement has allowed Paddon to move up, and he needs a result like this to give him a timely boost.

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[KKS]

Ziggysony video
https://youtu.be/eATuYmxT1gg
and Jari-Matti car broke just on simple breaking. Unbelievable!

[EstWRC]

Lottery is on. Prbly a bit of an advantage for Neuville judging by Friday morning, but he has had quite a few small touches into the banks then as well.

now they are starting way back, then Neuville started second on the road. We will see in an hour :)

[KKS]

And what actually weather and road condition for this morning? Who knows?

[EstWRC]

it is soaking wet reported by estonians, road looking bad already on some places not everywhere

[EstWRC]

WEATHER UPDATE
It's raining again. Generally dark and dismal in Mikolajki with a strong breeze. The temperature is 13˚C. Rain expected on and off throughout the day.

[KKS]

and it will be a hell road for leaders

[mknight]

Friday was advantage for 3-5 car on the road on the first run and for later cars on the second.

[EstWRC]

breen and Hanninen saying the road is even worse than on friday...man this is gonna be a huge lottery today

[CoyoteVillagra]

Nice timelapse of latvala service.

https://twitter.com/TGR_WRC/status/881395898420539392

[cali]

Or like closing a gate that blocked a rally car during a stage in Mexico. I'm not defending organizers, but let's not pretend there are no ridiculous situations in any other rally.
But this is the worst of them all by a big margin. Let's not play a kindergarten game and start to blame other rallies. This has been almost catastrophic so far, only lady luck preventing a major disaster.

[dimviii]

Good morning guys,wish to have a good battle till last km.

Happy birthday to Kris Meeke too.

[mknight]

Tbh I not a fan of some of the drivers comments.

Sure it's raining and very slippery. So it's a lottery, easy to make a mistake etc. But that's rally ffs! Drive in any possible conditions.

[KKS]

haha funny Mads comments

[AnttiL]

Suninen flying

[EstWRC]

conditions


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDtcPOCXYAQdEMx.jpg:small

[AnttiL]

Suninen flying

What a time! Go Teemu!

[EstWRC]

Ogier with quite a moment reported by fans

[CoyoteVillagra]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDtdXocXUAAyhIb.jpg

[er88]

Suninen just smashed up Andreas there...

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[KKS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDtdXocXUAAyhIb.jpg
Suninen really didn't like that Fiesta's rear bumper :D

[EstWRC]

started to rain heavily now before Tänak and Neuville, reported by trackside

[KKS]

C'mon Teemu! Just grab that 5th position!

[er88]

started to rain heavily now before Tänak and Neuville, reported by trackside
Keep the updates coming mate. Cheers

[KKS]

Wow tanak!!!!

[abxyz]

Tanak, wow!

[6789]

Woah - what a split from Ott!

[EstWRC]

is this real????

[dimviii]

1st split for Tanak !

[AnttiL]

Tänak flying

[er88]

Incredible

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[AnttiL]

Hats off for Ott

[sonnybobiche]

Jesus, how is that possible?

[KKS]

Haha... Tanak 33sec faster at 11km stage than Breen :D