74th PZM Rally Poland

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Wetttttt...

Thunder, lightning and RAIN! #WRC https://t.co/RbCMgc77XN

[dimviii]

Ogier trolling about the raindance

Sébastien Ogier‏
Verified account
*@SebOgier
I promesse now I stop!!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDfnCaiUwAAK8Ar.jpg
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[Fast Eddie WRC]

I think he rain-danced enough ! ;)

[papar007]

Weather will be fine for sss I think

[EstWRC]

i have a feeling the SS1 wont go if it continues like that.

[bluuford]

i have a feeling the SS1 wont go if it continues like that.

No worries, Sun is out by then and rain is forgotten.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Quality SD vid: https://youtu.be/sCRQzUmtThI

[EstWRC]

No worries, Sun is out by then and rain is forgotten.

thanks, how about tomorrow?

[bluuford]

thanks, how about tomorrow?

Honestly, I do not know yet, likely wet and damp. But nothing like today.

[EstWRC]

nice vidhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsK9CA5BPMg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDfuxf-W0AA9MYA.jpg:large

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/NKoHU9-BieU

[dimviii]

Μichelin video

https://youtu.be/rkTcDab0v_U

Michelin Motorsport‏
#Tyre info: SS1: All Michelin @OfficialWRC drivers with 5 Michelin LTX Force S5 #RallyPoland

[dimviii]

methka video
https://youtu.be/jQoSF8l41w4

[BigWorm]

Is Östberg running DMacks or Michelin this rally?

[pantealex]

Is Östberg running DMacks or Michelin this rally?

Car has Michelin stickers...

[dimviii]

and Michelin tyres at shakedown


devillers video
https://youtu.be/XUE2WZ0LJEs

[Essaj]

Is there any live streams from the first stage? And why the fk wrc aint streaming it on wrc+?

[AnttiL]

Is there any live streams from the first stage? And why the fk wrc aint streaming it on wrc+?

They show it tomorrow, don't know why...

[EstWRC]

estonian army is ready

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDgHU6VXcAA7Ed3.jpg
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDgLRmEXkAEyNtf.jpg
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[Essaj]

estonian army is ready

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDgHU6VXcAA7Ed3.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDgJvO8XoAEsdFK.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDgLRmEXkAEyNtf.jpg
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Is there actually numbers how many Estonian travels to rallies like Poland and Finland?
I remember as a kid when Markko Märtin was still driving that there were more Estonians than Fins on the stages of Rally Finland back then, atleast it welt that way. And it actually kept happening even after Markko retired.

[Simmi]

Fair play to the Estonians. Really support their guys.

[eib1]

Is there actually numbers how many Estonian travels to rallies like Poland and Finland?
I remember as a kid when Markko Märtin was still driving that there were more Estonians than Fins on the stages of Rally Finland back then, atleast it welt that way. And it actually kept happening even after Markko retired.

Some say about 10 000 back in 2004
This year in Poland probably more...

[Sub_Skoda]

They show it tomorrow, don't know why...

No local tv to broadcast it?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fair play to the Estonians. Really support their guys.

Is there a more famous Estonian sports star ?

[EstWRC]

Kelly Sildaru is also hugely popular if you are into extreme sports.

https://scontent-otp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/19477548_1632150693461685_2147531207567322964_o.jp g?oh=dbe3c6a751bb2005bfdc85ccb9b95def&oe=59DA7FF9

[KKS]

No any video... anywhere?

[bf1_IRL]

Nothing on WRC+ or RedBull..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

LIVE !
https://www.facebook.com/225590097494105/videos/vb.225590097494105/1404722186247551/?type=3&theater

[papar007]

All ok with sss

[CoyoteVillagra]

I try to share some photos but i get this message:
Thank you for posting! Your post will not be visible until a moderator has approved it for posting.

My account is new.
I need certain number of posts to be able to get my images shown?
Thanks.

[abxyz]

I try to share some photos but i get this message:
Thank you for posting! Your post will not be visible until a moderator has approved it for posting.

My account is new.
I need certain number of posts to be able to get my images shown?
Thanks.

Link the images instead

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS1 @RallyPoland

SLefebvreRallye v TeemuSuninenRac, then AMikkelsenRally v MadsOstberg

https://twitter.com/RallyeSport/status/880484503206211585

[Essaj]

Lappi having problems with engine, hopefully everything is okay and they get it shorted for tomorrow.

[EstWRC]

three guys with the same time at the moment

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans now fastest !

[KKS]

Evans find good shortcut here :D

[CoyoteVillagra]

The same problem.

No urls or photos allowed to post :confused:

[EstWRC]

those dmacks working well on micky mouse stages, i remember some years ago Evans saying that he hates those stages and he wasnt very good at them but this season has won quite a many already. Of course maybe he now likes them and has made progress.

[EstWRC]

https://www.upload.ee/image/7174509/Screen_Shot_2017-06-29_at_21.14.21_.png

[racerx1979]

The DMACKS will do well if it's wet. Could be a good one for Evans if he drives clean.

[macebig]

The same problem.

No urls or photos allowed to post :confused:

I think you need at least 25 posts to be able to post photos.

[dimviii]

HÄNNINEN: 10 second “Jump Start” penalty for @JuhoWRC on SS1 of @rajdpolski 2017 @TGR_WRC @OfficialWRC #WRC

[Andre Oliveira]

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[BigWorm]

The DMACKS will do well if it's wet. Could be a good one for Evans if he drives clean.

Let's see. He needs to relish the nature of the stages. A few pacenotes too slow and he's off the pace already.

[dimviii]

TGR_WRC‏*@TGR_WRC
Info on car #12 @EsapekkaLappi's engine issue: Team has an idea what the problem is and we believe we can fix it. @rajdpolski @OfficialWRC

[EstWRC]

shakedown Ogier onboard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTQZwrF7HS4

press conference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uion1iwpB8&t=0s

[mknight]

Well if it stays wet and muddy with some rain on friday Ogier goes up on my favourite list.

[dimviii]

DMACK Tyres‏*@DMACK_Tyres
Tonight’s win from @ElfynEvans means we have scored fastest times on FIVE rallies this season and led THREE overall!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak fans tonight
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDg8Wo7UAAAFh1u.jpg:large

[Raini]

Tanak fans tonight
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDg8Wo7UAAAFh1u.jpg:large

There is a lonely fan of Kubica as well ...

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDg8RhCVwAAm4pf.jpg

[KKS]

press conference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uion1iwpB8&t=0s
Boring Neuville meet boring Tanak and Lappi... I never heard so boring press/conf . Looks like only Craig have some antidot pills, maybe cuz he island man, and that boring illness not effect on him :D

[stefanvv]

Looks like only Craig have some antidot pills, maybe cuz he island manThe next John Desbrough's headline - "The Man from the Island".

[stefanvv]

So some speculations...If we look at the past years results, we see that Ogier, Neuville, Latvala and Mikkelsen have been in top 6 each year (Latvala has been fifth every year). Tänak and Paddon have also shown good results in the last two years and Tänak won WRC2 in 2014. Tänak the obvious favourite for a win, even before Sardinia. Ogier is first on the road but shouldn't matter that much in this rally, he'll be fast here. Evans a bit of a question mark, will there be a DMack advantage? Neuville will be fast, as will be Paddon, but Neuville will finish more probably without any incidents. Not probaly the best rally for Sordo.Latvala has been consistently slower than his teammates in the past. Lappi has downspoken his pace in the media, but he might surprise us. Hänninen probably won't be as impressive as in Sardinia.Mikkelsen has been fast here, but it's hard to say if he has made the car fit his style during the testing or not. All in all it's hard to expect anything from the whole Citroen team. Even Lefebvre made a stage win last year, but also crashed. Østberg wasn't up on the pace last year, not expecting much from him. And Suninen's main objective is probably Rally Finland so he's just using Poland to adapt to the car and find the setup, so I hope he just stays on the road and gets race mileage.WRC2 will be again too easy for Tidemand?Whoever wins this rally, will win the championship.

[Zeakiwi]

Was there a spare Citroen R5 that Meeke might have driven? Drivers need regular rallies to stay in the game, especially with the 2017 cars?
Did Meeke do the recce?

[racerx1979]

He was doing recce at Poland and apparently working closely with the team.

[dimviii]

Ott Tänak‏*@OttTanak
Into service, into the rain, and time for the technicians to do their thing #WRC #RallyPoland

Thierry Neuville‏
Good morning! Just arrived for the morning service and it's raining here . 9 stages to run to today! #Hyundai #i20CoupeWRC #RallyPoland

[EstWRC]

It started to rain in the beginning of ss2

[dimviii]

Colin Clark‏*@voiceofrally
Good morning rally friends from the end of today's opening stage. Yucky is the word to describe the weather. Wet, windy and cold!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDixldgWAAEYWki.jpg

[dimviii]

ss2 at 2,9km

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDixvK4XcAA54bQ.jpg
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[KKS]

it will be rutted by first 5 cars.

[mknight]

+ interesting rally
- we won't know much about the "new" citroen speed today

[KKS]

We couldn't know true speed of new Citroen anyway. Meeke not here.

[mknight]

Sure 2 stages-only road-cleaning advantage speed ;)

[KKS]

Breen +40sec. Shitroens as they best.

[dimviii]

broken transmission for Breen

[KKS]

How Citroen could make car so fragile. Broke by first 6km of rally

[mknight]

Wonder what happens with Toyotas if the huge aero behind the rear wheels fills up with mud form the inside.

[Frostmourne]

Sorry, guys. I was not following the news lately, what are the new citroen changes?

[KKS]

Sorry, guys. I was not following the news lately, what are the new citroen changes?
Citroen play a homologation joker and bring new parts for Poland only for Mikkelsen car.

[racerx1979]

Sorry, guys. I was not following the news lately, what are the new citroen changes?

Nothing new.. same shitroen different day. :)

[CoyoteVillagra]

LAPPI :The engine problem was fine - just a mapping issue. It's going to be a tough day - it's so slippery in places. All the braking and entries are mainly completely mud. The car is like a boat - I'm just sailing and hoping. I have to be cautious, put it a lot sideways and try to survive.

[AnttiL]

Lefebvre faster than Mikkelsen :smash:

BTW my weather forecasts were all wrong yesterday expecting dry conditions :confused:

[KKS]

Rookie Sunninen with stalled engine only 1.6 away from best Citroen :D

[AnttiL]

Breen is still stopped fixing the car. Looks a bit bad.

[CoyoteVillagra]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDjEeOzXYAACl64.jpg

[KKS]

it's a long 80+ km road section for next stage, so they have some time to try fix it. Anyway they can drive with 2WD car, it's should be better than rally2

[AnttiL]

it's a long 80+ km road section for next stage, so they have some time to try fix it. Anyway they can drive with 2WD car, it's should be better than rally2

Yeah, but of course there's a risk that it breaks down totally during the stages.

[Zeakiwi]

How many tyres are the crews taking? I assume all on a soft medium gravel tyre?

[AnttiL]

R5 fastest Veiby only 2,1 s slower than slowest non-problem WRC Evans

[AnttiL]

How many tyres are the crews taking? I assume all on a soft medium gravel tyre?

All Michelin crews took 5 soft tyres.

[CoyoteVillagra]

Elfyn Evans have five DMACK GS62 soft compound tyres.

[AnttiL]

What's wrong with Camilli, he's a minute behind?

[KKS]

and where Pryce?

[CoyoteVillagra]

First video SS2

https://www.facebook.com/EpicRallyTribe2.0/videos/687192844812389/




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDjMcfEW0AAGUGD.jpg

[CoyoteVillagra]

and where Pryce?



@DMACK_Tyres

Looks like @OsianPryce has gone off and sounds like the car is quite badly damaged. Both he and Dale are ok.



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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDjOG3vW0AAI-Av.jpg:large


Video after the crash

https://www.facebook.com/225590097494105/videos/1405396849513418/

[wrc2017]

Breen broken half shaft. 3WD

[KKS]

Rear left is horrible :(

[KKS]

For Breen 3WD it's not fo so long time... that 3rd WD will broke ASAP

[AnttiL]

Now we have Tänak, Ogier and Neuville within 0,3 seconds. And Latvala coming strong in the splits.

[pantealex]

after 5 cars: JMLatvala fastest

[KKS]

And looks like only this 4 people can push this muddy stages. All other too cautions

[PLuto]

What's wrong with Camilli, he's a minute behind?

I think he stopped at the scene of Pryce's crash.

[KKS]

it's a 3rd rally for Breen was fckued up by a car

[mknight]

it's a 3rd rally for Breen was fckued up by a car
If you are referring to Sardinia that was 100% his mistake, jumping right on the stone that was outside of the road when cutting. They even said so in a press release, there is drone+onboard vid analysis made by wrc.com as well.

[KKS]

Breen only one car that jump there at that kind of way? - I don't think so. But only Breen car was broken

[mknight]

Breen only one car that jump there at that kind of way? - I don't think so. But only Breen car was broken

Selective memory much:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIprw5JPaSw

[Eli]

It doesn't matter how you look at it, it's another mishap for Craig...shame.

[stefanvv]

If you are referring to Sardinia that was 100% his mistake, jumping right on the stone that was outside of the road when cutting. They even said so in a press release, there is drone+onboard vid analysis made by wrc.com as well.Actually his mistake was he didn't cut enough, like Tanak for example. Pure recce mistake.

[Mintexmemory]

Whoever wins this rally, will win the championship.

Can I add that to your crystal ball predictions?!!
So you are effectively saying that Ogier will win this rally ;)

[AnttiL]

Mikkelsen is just as slow as in Sardinia

[KKS]

Selective memory much:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIprw5JPaSw
Yes, it better to cut that corner like Ott did, but World Rally Car should survive that. Underneath protection and so on should protect from that troubles. No? It's not last bedrock in all championship and car should be prepared for that. IMHO.

[Allez Andruet]

Lefebvre again faster than Mikkelsen :confused:

[itix]

The ironic situation where Lefebvre is the fastest Citroen...

[Eric]

Mikkelsen is just as slow as in Sardinia

Even Lefebvre is quicker.

[AnttiL]

Suninen is doing well, eight now

[KKS]

It's not a "new car issue" for Mikkelsen. Look into Sunninen! 9 sec faster! wow.

[mknight]

Seriously do you believe that Mikkelsen within 2 months changed from much faster than Sunninen to much slower? Same vs Ogier and Latvala.

Both Citroen are slow.

[Andre Oliveira]

Where you see Mikkelsen vs Suninen in same conditions to say that?

[mknight]

Where you see Mikkelsen vs Suninen in same conditions to say that?

Portugal, Corsica.

[Eric]

Seriously do you believe that Mikkelsen within 2 months changed from much faster than Sunninen to much slower? Same vs Ogier and Latvala.

Both Citroen are slow.

Luckily Mikkelsen showed in WRC2 that he is a much better driver than Sunninen. Or else this would not look good for the norwegian. Cant see him sign for the team when the situation is this bad

[jparker]

Lefebvre again faster than Mikkelsen :confused:

Lefebvre is probably driving the way he wants, while Mikkelsen is driving with car development in mind.
Is that so surprising for you?

[KKS]

I think that Mikkelsen it's not a panacea for Citroen. Only reason why Mikkelsen slow now - he know that if he try to push, he end into same situation as Meeke. But Meeke in same time can lead rally.
And Sunninen it's great comparison that if car is OK - you be fast from the box.

[mknight]

Luckily Mikkelsen showed in WRC2 that he is a much better driver than Sunninen. Or else this would not look good for the norwegian. Cant see him sign for the team when the situation is this bad

This is what popped to my mind when I heard his manager's comments on the news of signing for Germany. After these experiences Citroen does not come as his first choice by any means.
Still a long weekend though.

[jparker]

I think that Mikkelsen it's not a panacea for Citroen. Only reason why Mikkelsen slow now - he know that if he try to push, he end into same situation as Meeke. But Meeke in same time can lead rally.
And Sunninen it's great comparison that if car is OK - you be fast from the box.

I don't agree, but even so, that still deserves respect.

EDIT: They have new parts. It will be completely irresponsible to retire early in this event.

[wrc2017]

Currently all 3 cars outside top 10. None of drivers understand whats going on. Out of this whole Citroen shit fight.. and all the ridiculing of Meeke... he is the only one in the Citroen team having a small smile now.

[Simmi]

Very nice rally shaping up here.

[jparker]

Best Polish driver so far:
L. PIENIAZEK TRT PEUGEOT WORLD RALLY TEAM
Can anyone share few words for him?

[AnttiL]

Latvala fastest again

[KKS]

Ogier make a good sector2 time. 3.21 when all others 3.26/3.27. It's mud on that sector and some advantage for Ogier?

[SPKen]

Jump on SS 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llPLM23Q1U0&feature=youtu.be

[Mad Max]

Best Polish driver so far:
L. PIENIAZEK TRT PEUGEOT WORLD RALLY TEAM
Can anyone share few words for him?He started running 3 years ago, has a good background $$$$$
He drives, learns to ride, sometimes good results happen, accidents happen, he will not be the champion, but he will definitely be a fast and reliable driver
https://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=73062

[JTGANG]

Seeing the terrible conditions we are lucky we have all drivers still in line

[AnttiL]

The gap after the four main guys is big. It's interesting to see how it is on the second loop, not to mention tomorrow with the reversed road order...

BTW Lappi going nice again on the first split.

[mknight]

The gap after the four main guys is big. It's interesting to see how it is on the second loop, not to mention tomorrow with the reversed road order...



It's like two different worlds yes. Cars before Sordo have their own fight, and cars after another one.

[Allez Andruet]

Lappi????

[jparker]

Not sure how the rear diff works, but is Breen driving FWD only now?

[KKS]

Good morning for Lappi till now....

[AnttiL]

Lappi has a wheel knocked off or something according to Mikkelsen.

Suninen flying on first split.

[KKS]

Very good 1st split for Suninen

[jparker]

Norwegian drivers virtually identical stage and overall times.
Why is Ostberg so slow? He had better pace in Sardinia?

[AnttiL]

What happened to Suninen, he's much down on second split

[itix]

Shame about Lappi. Hope he doesn't fall back into his crashing ways :(

[KKS]

and after that slowest 2nd sector time

[AnttiL]

Suninen got to the end around the times of Østberg and Mikkelsen, I hope he doesn't have anything broken in the car because that seemed like constant time loss throughout the stage...

[KKS]

it looks like a spin at 2nd sector. 3rd sector was 2-3 sec better than Ostberg/Mikkelsen

[Mirek]

It's interesting that so far Veiby has been on all normal stages faster than Tidemand.

[AnttiL]

It's interesting that so far Veiby has been on all normal stages faster than Tidemand.

Tidemand's probably not pushing, just trying to secure the championship?

[EstWRC]

Top4 guys just from another planet, helped by the nature of course. Shitty morning for Tänak with many little mistakes.

[AL14]

Top4 guys just from another planet, helped by the nature of course. Shitty morning for Tänak with many little mistakes.

They the TOP4 in the championship as well. Of course being firsts in the road helps but they're proving they're not the 4 best by faith.

[AL14]

It's interesting that so far Veiby has been on all normal stages faster than Tidemand.

He is really doing well in R5. I remember last years Andolfi was battling against him with 2wd and sometimes Fabio was even faster with rc4 while veiby was in rc3.
Now Andolfi is nowhere near the leaders pace and Veiby is leading.

Sometimes changing category can really spice things up.

[KKS]

Mikkelsen with old car #7 traditions :D

[Mintexmemory]

They the TOP4 in the championship as well. Of course being firsts in the road helps but they're proving they're not the 4 best by faith.

If it were just the conditions there would be a continuum of worsening times, not the order of magnitude shift between Ogier and Sordo. So will there be any benefit for Ogier going first of the top 4 through the ruts tomorrow?

[Eric]

Aaaand thats it for Mikkelsen. 2/3 Citröens out after first loop. o happy days for the french team :p

[Doon]

I can't help think that Meeke would have been fighting with the top 4 driver.......even though he may have crashed by now. Still, Citroen look woeful. At least Meeke showed speed.

[Mintexmemory]

Aaaand thats it for Mikkelsen. 2/3 Citröens out after first loop. o happy days for the french team :p

Boooo - all Meeke's fault......oh err umm who can they blame now?

[RS]

What happened to Mikkelsen?

[macebig]

Another pathetic showing for Citroen. I think Matton is now on the brink.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good close battle between the top drivers and no big mistakes or car problems today.

Shame or Breen's issue and Lappi who was going well.

[KKS]

I think that Matton should make a brake and reset his mind :D And for Finland we invite a Guy Frequelin as a good team manager.

[BigWorm]

Nice battle with the 4 best drivers. I like it.

Poland bygones are now bygones for Latvala, nice to see it.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

What happened to Mikkelsen?

Went wide and hit a tree stump.

[Mintexmemory]

I think that Matton should make a brake and reset his mind :D And for Finland we invite a Guy Franklin as a good team manager.

Do you mean Frequelin? Bring back Quesnel!!

[dupanton]

Nice stage times for Greensmith too, 2 scratches and 2nd in WRC2.

[KKS]

Do you mean Frequelin? Bring back Quesnel!!
oops... my bad :(

[KKS]

Quesnel in Citroen - automatically mean Ogier is #1 in a team.

[Zeropt]

https://imgflip.com/i/1rri0f

[AnttiL]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDjz71nW0AALKk5.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDjz9mlXUAARJk7.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDjz_72WsAAOJBk.jpg

Mikkelsen servicing

[AnttiL]

Lappi damage

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDjynfzW0AArL6w.jpg

[Simmi]

Lappi damage

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDjynfzW0AArL6w.jpg

Ahh okay so he didn't lose a wheel then. Just badly damaged suspension.

[EstWRC]

Still raining, won't be good for ogier going through water filled ruts first

[AnttiL]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDj6M7eXkAA8U8N.jpg

[Integrale]

Another tense rally so far. I'm nominating Latvala for driver of the year up until now. He's doing far better than I expected in that tiny Toyota. Doing well in real driver's rallies, thriving in these difficult conditions and just picking up the points. With a bit of luck, now and in Finland, he might really join the battle for the championship. That's something I never imagined before this season.

In a month I'll be in Finland. Hoping for better weather then. :)

[OldF]

Too optimistic driving line.

TGR_WRC‏ @TGR_WRC 33m33 minutes ago
Car #12 @EsapekkaLappi suffered suspension damage after a big cut on SS4. He is done for today, but trying to be back tomorrow.

[Zeropt]

https://scontent.fopo2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19510141_1427920047292034_1705337105025737004_n.jp g?oh=4477f69d68c49a8c3b4c605acf56491a&oe=59CF9375

[AnttiL]

Why are they removing the rear side windows?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDj8EBrXkAEDQcE.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDj8EByWAAAGqAz.jpg

[Indreq]

https://twitter.com/i/videos/tweet/880704820256157697

Nice jump but from that angle it seems like spectators might be way too close to road, especially the ones standing in front of fence - they have nowhere to go if something goes wrong.

[Simmi]

https://twitter.com/i/videos/tweet/880704820256157697

Nice jump but from that angle it seems like spectators might be way too close to road, especially the ones standing in front of fence - they have nowhere to go if something goes wrong.

Yeah standing with your back pinned to a wooden fence isn't ideal when a car is jumping towards you.

[noel157]

https://twitter.com/i/videos/tweet/880704820256157697

Nice jump but from that angle it seems like spectators might be way too close to road, especially the ones standing in front of fence - they have nowhere to go if something goes wrong.

Crazy, have seen a few other examples of poor spectator control, even on the SD stage, crowds standing on the outside of fast corners and, like above, standing near where cars are landing from a jump.

[tc10a]

https://twitter.com/i/videos/tweet/880704820256157697

Nice jump but from that angle it seems like spectators might be way too close to road, especially the ones standing in front of fence - they have nowhere to go if something goes wrong.

On most of the videos spectator safety is again horrible.

[AL14]

I don't know if they are waiting for a carnage before dropping this event...
It's even wet today, there is no grip. They are just crazy, really.

Michelle Mutton should try to stop the event at least for today before it is too late.

[mknight]

Another tense rally so far. I'm nominating Latvala for driver of the year up until now. He's doing far better than I expected in that tiny Toyota. Doing well in real driver's rallies, thriving in these difficult conditions and just picking up the points. With a bit of luck, now and in Finland, he might really join the battle for the championship. That's something I never imagined before this season.

In a month I'll be in Finland. Hoping for better weather then. :)

Agree he has done very well. Mostly impressed by the fact that he is able to drive at less than flat-out speed when needed.

So far in Poland all Toyotas are (were for Lappi) doing very well considering their respective road positions. Maybe larger aero grip than other cars is a factor when mechanical grip is low.

[Allez Andruet]

On most of the videos spectator safety is again horrible.

It truly is. This rally definitely doesn't deserve to be in WRC calender if the spectator control is at this level.

[Zeakiwi]

I think it is unfair to the driver crews(drivers/ co-drivers) to have to drive flat out with the spectators positioned in unsafe places. Especially after Paddon's accident at Monte Carlo - people were standing in silly places the next day as well.
If the drivers make it safely to the end of the leg they might consider what can be done. (e.g driver meeting like in Portugal '86 or Sweden 2016?) or ask the organisers to get some loud sirens on the zero car to frighten people back before the cars arrive. Don't want a repeat of some car vs spectator rally accidents that have happened in recent years.

[sindroms]

Crazy, have seen a few other examples of poor spectator control, even on the SD stage, crowds standing on the outside of fast corners and, like above, standing near where cars are landing from a jump.

Same spot - https://twitter.com/EpicRallyTribe/status/880678508338569216

Nothing has changed... I was there in 2014, when jump was in reverse direction. Spectator zone was behind road sign, marshals followed no to allow cross the plastic fence but they were absolutely irrelevant about fans who were standing 20m further in top of the jump. (I was one of them, yes. Unforgettable feelings when cars flew away in distance of hand. But very uncomfortable and anxious in same time... I get what I wanted then but to to do it once more - never ever again, believe me). Waiting for safety cars I was camouflaging in ditches predicting that fans will be thrown out of there - it didn't happen, the car doesn't even stop.
I still can't understand where is problem for rally organizers to spot places like this and make it safe...

[JUF]

Another tense rally so far. I'm nominating Latvala for driver of the year up until now. He's doing far better than I expected in that tiny Toyota. Doing well in real driver's rallies, thriving in these difficult conditions and just picking up the points. With a bit of luck, now and in Finland, he might really join the battle for the championship. That's something I never imagined before this season.
And that´s why I hope that Ogier and Latvala will not become teammates again.

[Mintexmemory]

And that´s why I hope that Ogier and Latvala will not become teammates again.

I think you are on safe ground in hoping that! Ogier will always insist on No1 status and JML won't risk his fragile psyche again!

[AL14]

I've just seen SS2 onboard and I'm wondering how is it possible that they have canceled a completely safe stage in Sweden because there wasn't enough bales and they are going on with this one on wet surface.

[EstWRC]

here we go, SS6 cancelled

[AL14]

here we go, SS6 cancelled

Lol, they read me!

[Zeropt]

If you can`t beat them, join them... =D

https://scontent.fopo2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19553933_10213443775912011_2361884729630586118_n.j pg?oh=f2ef1e16b81f560c116ab91faa6d370d&oe=59DF3B17

[EstWRC]

Lol, they read me!

isnt suprising at all really...now we have to wait over an hour till the next one

[Simmi]

Sad I've never managed to get to Poland. Always clashes badly with work. Seems this was my last chance...

[AL14]

isnt suprising at all really...now we have to wait over an hour till the next one

Yes, as I said I am suprised they have allowed that this morning actually

[Doon]

Having just watched JMLs in-car of SS2 it's obvious that due to the landscape of this rally i.e. relatively flat, there are no ditches to catch cars, or banks for spectators to stand on. Given that, the potential for a fatal accident seems quite high; although, I'm not sure the drivers would even notice the poor positioning of the spectators for the majority of the stage.

[EstWRC]

it seems the drivers are kind of stuck between spectators cars, moving veeeryyy slowly, 10km/h max and standing a lot of time

[dimviii]

all Michelin crews with 5 soft tyres for afternoon loop

[Rally Power]

Nice job from Greensmith; he's fighting for the WRC2 lead with Veiby and Tidemand. Big fight also in JWRC, between Radstrom and Solans.

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen crash
https://youtu.be/FuahsHXknwQ

[dimviii]

Why are they removing the rear side windows?


its easier to approach the upper level of suspension

[sindroms]

WRC short review - Pryce crash, Lappi deep cut - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXd5IV9PP7Q

[KKS]

WRC short review - Pryce crash, Lappi deep cut - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXd5IV9PP7Q
Latvala - spectacular jumps!
And good back to Paul King comments

[macebig]

SS6 cancelled?

[dimviii]

yes

[Fast Eddie WRC]

This shows where Pryce's car actually stopped - on its roof in the road:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/EddieFocus/Pryce_zpsywspfzse.jpg

Those earlier photos must've been where it was pushed to and made it look like he's rolled into the trees ..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDjOG3wXcAQkjib.jpg

[dimviii]

service park

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDkotbgXUAAd_j7.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ostberg jump today

https://twitter.com/RangerPaatil/status/880766553138089984

[dimviii]

5 min delay

[stefanvv]

SS6 cancelled?Safety issue:
FRI 13:51 - SS6: UPDATEOrganisers cancelled the stage on the grounds of spectator safety.

[KKS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDkRzfnW0AAa5uA.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDkR2WqXgAE-vPt.jpg

[dimviii]

Neuville -2,4 at 1st split! Lets see if Ogier had an advantage at 1st loop

[Doon]

Strange first split from Tanak, and none from Latvala yet.........is this the stage it all goes wrong?

Edit: All changed now. Tanak pushing hard

[dimviii]

Tanak -8.9 at 2nd split!!!

[KKS]

Tanak - flying!
Lets wait for Jari splits.

[stefanvv]

Strange first split from Tanak, and none from Latvala yet.........is this the stage it all goes wrong?They messed up their start order, hence the wrong time

[stefanvv]

Expect late runners to make big times.

[dimviii]

Tanak leader now

edit forgot Latvala,gap now 2.3 for Latvala. Nice fight.

[macebig]

Tanak - 15 from Ogier. 1 S/KM. Excellent result.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sébastien Ogier‏Verified account @SebOgier

"Terrible! Undriveable. I'm not sure the conditions will change now. I had a lot of water in the ruts. Really, really hard."

[EstWRC]

Tänak attaaaccckkkkkkkkkk

[KKS]

And Sordo will be last who benefit from road conditions.

[tc10a]

Safety issue:

Looking on onboards already the first run should not have been driven.
After several jumps lots of people in hilarious places, could have ended easily in disaster.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Karlip ‏ @Karlip1
Slippery? @ElfynEvans clocks 194 km/h in the stage !

[dimviii]

And Sordo will be last who benefit from road conditions.
watch Paddon splits

[N.O.T]

20 seconds now Paddon from ogier...

[EstWRC]

Sordo Dani - Martí Marc
"It's totally stupid to drive like this. You can't drive. It's like a lottery." / "je úplně debilní v tomhle jet. Nejde to řídit, je to loterie."

Latvala Jari-Matti - Anttila Miikka
"Horrendous. Absolutely terrible. The grip is really, really low. The car is going from side to side. It's amazing that we are here." / "Absolutně šílené. Auto jen lítá ze strany na stranu. Je úžasné, že jsme vůbec tady."

Tänak Ott - Järveoja Martin
"The conditions are something crazy. It's difficult to understand what is happening - it's so slippery and rutted. Maybe the conditions are going to get better [for those behind]." / "Podmínky jsou něco šíleného. Pro ty za námi to možná bude lepší."

Neuville Thierry - Gilsoul Nicolas
"A lot of standing water in the ruts. I tried to avoid most of them. A good stage, but there is no line. We are cleaning the road to benefit the guys behind." / "V kolejích stojí voda. Čistíme pro ty za námi."

Ogier Sébastien - Ingrassia Julien
"Terrible. Undriveable. A lot of water in the ruts now. It's really, really hard." / "Je to šílené, neřiditelné, koleje jsou plné vody, opravdu těžké."


and then they still go 196km/h on straight and over 100km/h in corners, crazy dudes

[KKS]

watch Paddon splits
Yep, I assume that road will be ruined for road position 5 and down

[itix]

Evans is quite disappointing in this rally. He has a good road position given that the ruts should be clean from water now (Paddon time suggests it) and yet he has set the slowest time so far.

[stefanvv]

Expect late runners to make big times.Not for c3 though

[EstWRC]

Evans is quite disappointing in this rally. He has a good road position given that the ruts should be clean from water now (Paddon time suggests it) and yet he has set the slowest time so far.

i dont know why some here had high hopes for him, he has never been good on fast rallies.

im feeling very sorry for Ogier, its a nightmare to be first and washing the water away from ruts but he benefitted in the morning.

[racerx1979]

Lappi is out for today? Looked like minor suspension damage but he's not on the start order for the second half of today

[tolx]

yes,there was comment that he will be back tomorrow.

[EstWRC]

now its time for late starters to benefit and we may have a good fight for tomorrow!


btw whats the forecast?

[stefanvv]

Can Suninen wins his wrc stage?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Not for c3 though

Mikkelsen 3rd quickest so far.

[tolx]

yes, at least some speed from citroen now. Let's hope he will keep it for today

[dimviii]

finally a decent time for Mikkelsen,even with road advantage

[jparker]

Hanninen doesn't mind the conditions I guess. Decent time for him

[dimviii]

for EstWRC

https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/880792044880494592

[racerx1979]

Can Suninen wins his wrc stage?

And he did it!

[AnttiL]

Suninen flying

[KKS]

Can Suninen wins his wrc stage?
hhhh.. c'mon!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

yes, at least some speed from citroen now. Let's hope he will keep it for today

@AMikkelsenRally: "The car feels better. The team made some changes and now I have much more feeling for the grip."

[rage82]

Suninen fastest on 2-nd split
EDIT; and he did it. first stage win in his first wrc car outing

[KKS]

Yeeeah! :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Suninen wow !

[EstWRC]

look at this dude https://www.facebook.com/DoidosporRally/videos/1341381052625335/

[stefanvv]

hhhh.. c'mon!surprise, surprise:D

[AnttiL]

Suninen fastest on 2-nd split
EDIT; and he did it. first stage win in his first wrc car outing

Way to go!

[Simmi]

Lovely stuff Teemu. All the BS you often hear from some drivers about gaining experience and growing with the car slowly. Talent is talent and if you are good enough there's no reason why you can't do this. I don't care about his road position here - it's massively impressive.

[EstWRC]

look at this dude https://www.facebook.com/DoidosporRally/videos/1341381052625335/

better link https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/880792044880494592

[Simmi]

better link https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/880792044880494592

On ittttttt!

[Andre Oliveira]

Great job by Teemu!

[tolx]

Nice one from Sunninen, he deserves some more attention. Just hope he will keep it together.
But that clip with Tanak is insane...

[Essaj]

JML is like new born with Toyota, Lappi looking really good and now Suninen also super impressive! And we still have Rovanperä to come! Could we maybe get our crown back from the frenchmen? Atleast it's looking super bright!

[N.O.T]

JML is like new born with Toyota, Lappi looking really good and now Suninen also super impressive! And we still have Rovanperä to come! Could we maybe get our crown back from the frenchmen? Atleast it's looking super bright!

and that is what years of the French kicking finnish people in the head looks like...

[mknight]

If anything this lottery with conditions shows that we should not make judgements based on this leg.
Sunninen morning: 8-11 place, now stage win
Mikkelsen morning: 11-13 place, now 4th

[cali]

For first guys it's around 30-40 seconds slower than in the first pass. Nuff said

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[Mirek]

Lappi is out for today? Looked like minor suspension damage but he's not on the start order for the second half of today

No rule which would allow restart in mid-day service exists.