Rally France (tour de Corse) 2016

[Duvel]

It seems the route for this years rally is already known. http://www.tourdecorse.com/2016/en/
Just 10 stage's.. still i'm thinking of going there this year.

Any tips are welcome, where best to stay?
I believe they move about the hole island during the rally, does that mean there are podiums and regroups in the tree major cities?

[Mintexmemory]

The flights are expensive from UK and the ferry schedule from Genoa or Nice such that a whole week on Corsica is required with hotel and car hire extra cost. I'll stick to Sarde!
As for regroups / podiums - No it's all about remote servicing returning to the Service Park for parc ferme

[Duvel]

The flights are expensive from UK and the ferry schedule from Genoa or Nice such that a whole week on Corsica is required with hotel and car hire extra cost. I'll stick to Sarde!
As for regroups / podiums - No it's all about remote servicing returning to the Service Park for parc ferme

I prefer Sardinia also, but will it be in next year?

[AL14]

Will they repeat stages in the same day? Or will it be like last year?

[Mintexmemory]

Will they repeat stages in the same day? Or will it be like last year?

It's all on the Rally website and Planet Marcus.

The west coast town of Ajaccio hosts Thursday evening’s start ceremony.
Two stages on the west coast are tackled twice on Friday, with no service and just a mid-leg tyre change in Porticcio.
Saturday is the longest with two loops of two stages totalling 169.04km.
Sunday’s final leg covers just two tests in the east - but the opener is a monster 53.78km.
The single service park is at Bastia Airport, in the far north-east of the island.

[sete]

when will be entry list published?
Kopecky confirmed entry on Corse during Barum rally this weekend

[jbmarcus21]

Google Earth Map Wrc Tour de Corse 2016 is online => http://goo.gl/uC5ZSG

[PLuto]

when will be entry list published?
Kopecky confirmed entry on Corse during Barum rally this weekend

Kopecky didnt confirmed it. He told that he hopes he will do Corse instead of cancelled China. But decision should be made after Barum.

[RS]

Kopecky didnt confirmed it. He told that he hopes he will do Corse instead of cancelled China. But decision should be made after Barum.

Instead of? I thought all Skoda works drivers were promised 7 WRC2 rounds?

[pantealex]

Instead of? I thought all Skoda works drivers were promised 7 WRC2 rounds?

That for Kopecky would mean all remaining events (Corsica, Catalonia, Wales and Australia)

[AL14]

The format is better than last year, let's hope it will not fall the sky like 2015

[Simmi]

Official Hyundai release on the 3 R5s in Corsica - https://motorsport.hyundai.com/en/news/view/6448?pageNum=1&listType=all

[jbmarcus21]

Also Meeke & Breen enters => http://bit.ly/2bXIQ3v

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Another great chance for Craig Breen to show his WRC pace, this time on tarmac !

With more experience here than Meeke, he should go well.

[AL14]

Entry list http://www.rally.it/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Liste-officielle-des-engages-TDC-2016-1.pdf

77 crews. Much less than last year.

Let's see what this Hyundai R5 is capable of. I hope also in a straight and nice battle between Evans and Kopecky.
But my eyes will be especially on Andolfi's debut. Let's see if the talent is really there.

[jbmarcus21]

Good news with F.Delecour in Fabia R5 => http://bit.ly/2ciFB7a

[AL14]

Good news with F.Delecour in Fabia R5 => http://bit.ly/2ciFB7a

Didn't notice it! Nice news indeed :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

EVANS TO RESUME WRC 2 TITLE PUSH IN CORSICA :)

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc-2/news/2016/september/evans-wrc-2-corsica/page/3872--51-51-.html

[JTGANG]

At last Sylvain Michel against huge competion....Great news !!!!! Let's see what he can do among the best in the category

[Simmi]

Ptaszek moving over to a Fiesta now.

Hopefully if Evans finishes his WRC2 season here it leaves him open to do GB in a WRC car.


Not the numbers of last year but still lots of interesting things to look out for on the entry list. Hoping to get to Corsica one of these days.

[vino_93]

Entry list http://www.rally.it/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Liste-officielle-des-engages-TDC-2016-1.pdf

77 crews. Much less than last year.

Let's see what this Hyundai R5 is capable of. I hope also in a straight and nice battle between Evans and Kopecky.
But my eyes will be especially on Andolfi's debut. Let's see if the talent is really there.

Last year they were crews competing for french championship only. This year, it's not a french tarmac championship round.

[vino_93]

Good news with F.Delecour in Fabia R5 => http://bit.ly/2ciFB7a

What is sad, it's than now, when guys want to do their home event, they rent a R5, not a WRC. Of course that's really nice to see Michel, Bouffier, Delecour, ... entering the event. But maybe with a WRC, they could have fight for Top 5 - or just fight with the official WRC drivers. It could bring a bit of new things in the front of the race. A few years ago, that happened ...

[sete]

Pitty,no Delecout at Tour de Corse this year :-(
Problems with the sponsors
http://www.rally-mania.cz/news.php?id=17517

[WUff1]

Pitty,no Delecout at Tour de Corse this year :-(
Problems with the sponsors
http://www.rally-mania.cz/news.php?id=17517

Shame :(

[pantealex]

Pitty,no Delecout at Tour de Corse this year :-(
Problems with the sponsors
http://www.rally-mania.cz/news.php?id=17517

Main sponsor: Michelin :(

[RS]

So only one works Skoda on Corse?

Maybe they give their drivers 6 events each only, afterall.

[PLuto]

What is sad, it's than now, when guys want to do their home event, they rent a R5, not a WRC. Of course that's really nice to see Michel, Bouffier, Delecour, ... entering the event. But maybe with a WRC, they could have fight for Top 5 - or just fight with the official WRC drivers. It could bring a bit of new things in the front of the race. A few years ago, that happened ...

WRC car is 4x-5x more expensive. And it is not sure if you receive WRC car of same quality...

[vino_93]

WRC car is 4x-5x more expensive. And it is not sure if you receive WRC car of same quality...

Yes of course. I just say that's sad ... therefore, that happened. That was cool. There was more private entries the first year of the new WRC than now ...

[sete]

What weather we expect this year?

[AndyRAC]

Yes of course. I just say that's sad ... therefore, that happened. That was cool. There was more private entries the first year of the new WRC than now ...

It is sad - but it's what we've come to expect in the modern WRC.

[Rallye France Passion]

French driver Quentin Gilbert testing with his new DS3 R5 for WRC Rally France:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhw4G1KlMM4

[bluuford]

What weather we expect this year?

Much better than last year:). I expect nice and dry stages unitl Friday evening. It will be changeable from Saturday morning. Temp around +20. light breeze. Some strong, heavy showers might appear on Saturday, here and there.

[dimviii]

Hayden Paddon ‏@HaydenPaddon

They say this is the rally of 10,000 corners......well in our notes it's 4,836 ���� Maybe we could do it twice? @JKCoDriver @TourdeCorseWRC


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtcMndWWYAEPMhn.jpg

[dimviii]

Teemu / Rallirinki ‏@HartusvuoriWRC

From the archives of #RALLIRINKI Belgium: @JariMattiWRC pictured on recce and stages of @TourdeCorseWRC 2005 and his car in TdC 2004.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ctb4-5JXEAAfVJd.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ctb4-5KWAAAtH5T.jpg

[AL14]

Andolfi's I20 R5

Let's hope for a nice debut.

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14522901_10153353905782614_5394490065003222281_n.j pg?oh=94a1a4f8e137fd8e16fdc6c0e2c791a4&oe=5878E088

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans' Fiesta R5 now with black rims ?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ctc6YXGWcAA5Czx.jpg:large

[dimviii]

Seb Marshall ‏@sebmarshal

Right now all I see is this! 315 pages of notes for @TourdeCorseWRC - seemingly endless streams of numbers @KevinAbbring #bizzy #matrix


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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Seems Evans black rims were not just for scrutineering...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtdybeBXYAA06rU.jpg:large

[jbmarcus21]

full gallery photos from Service Park ➡️ http://bit.ly/2dmoeol

[janvanvurpa]

Evans' Fiesta R5 now with black rims ?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ctc6YXGWcAA5Czx.jpg:large
A big black void. Just like what is between the ears of whoever decided to paint the wheels black.

Why get fancy schmatzy wheels if nobody can see them? Stupid fad.

[N.O.T]

why people care so much about the colour of the wheels ?

[leighton323]

A big black void. Just like what is between the ears of whoever decided to paint the wheels black.

Why get fancy schmatzy wheels if nobody can see them? Stupid fad.
Each to their own old man.

Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk

[janvanvurpa]

Each to their own old man.

Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk

Naturally..
However

to go to effort to make $omething that is there to $howcase $omething--and it is no mere happenstance that whatever wheel this is on the car is there for a good rea$on ----be not visible seems to run counter to the idea of $howcasing things..

And, as $uch, $eems really $tupid, even though naturally everybody can have their own taste...

Ol chum.

[janvanvurpa]

why people care so much about the colour of the wheels ?

For a man who claims to be smarter than everybody else, you seem to make incredibly stupid presumptions constantly...
who said anybody cares "so much"?

A comment was made about the invisibility of the wheels in a photo of a rally car....
This is a rally discussion forum, so a comment is the nature of the way things work. That's all there was.

Go back to your basement and learn how to be a disciplined human and not assume things and try to think you know how others are thinking...
Those traits are not the traits of a smart person.

[dupanton]

Shakedown Times:
http://www.ewrc-results.com/shake.php?e=27497&t=Tour-de-Corse-2016

[BicioWrc]

sorry if i ask...no Shakedown times for the 3 R5 Hyundai I20 ...why?

[stefanvv]

Probably not in wrc competition.

[AL14]

what do you expect from Hyundai R5?
Do you think it will be top level like FIesta and Skoda?

[N.O.T]

For a man who claims to be smarter than everybody else, you seem to make incredibly stupid presumptions constantly...
who said anybody cares "so much"?

A comment was made about the invisibility of the wheels in a photo of a rally car....
This is a rally discussion forum, so a comment is the nature of the way things work. That's all there was.

Go back to your basement and learn how to be a disciplined human and not assume things and try to think you know how others are thinking...
Those traits are not the traits of a smart person.

ok but why is the invisibility of the wheels in a rally car important to be noted out ?

[Mirek]

what do you expect from Hyundai R5?
Do you think it will be top level like FIesta and Skoda?

It's the newest car, it was developed by one of the top WRC teams therefore I expect it to be good. Actually I can't imagine that it would be non competitive.

[AL14]

It's the newest car, it was developed by one of the top WRC teams therefore I expect it to be good. Actually I can't imagine that it would be non competitive.

Thanks Mirek.
Me too I think it will be a good machinery. But maybe too less time testing? So it will be competitive with PSA's R5 but still a step behind Fabia and Fiesta?

We will see. I'm very curious. Also to see if it is reliable.

[bluuford]

All three Hyundai R5 cars are in scrutineering according to HartusvuoriWRC (GPS data)..

By the way, Saturday morning loop will be decicive. Weather might be very tricky.

[Zeakiwi]

All three Hyundai R5 cars are in scrutineering according to HartusvuoriWRC (GPS data)..

By the way, Saturday morning loop will be decicive. Weather might be very tricky.

Is the Hyundai R5 i20 another story of the parts on the car do not match the homologation paperwork because someone in the office made a mistake?

[Mirek]

For the moment there seems to be no info available about what was/is wrong with them. Let's see if they start in the event.

[dimviii]

any news?

https://scontent-mrs1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14390932_1080125238709288_5789786362544582259_n.jp g?oh=95cdb87b1807287726d414cf3f8d4478&oe=5860E6C4

[dimviii]

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[dupanton]

any news?


No news, just a bunch of speculation and PR talk :)

[dimviii]

before 16 minutes


Hyundai Motorsport ‏@HMSGOfficial 16 λεπτάΠριν από 16 λεπτά

The New Generation i20 R5 is ready for its competitive debut at Tour De Corse - Rallye De France #HyundaiR5 #WRC

[dimviii]

Teemu / Rallirinki ‏@HartusvuoriWRC 25 λεπτάΠριν από 25 λεπτά

Andolfi was the only of three i20 R5 drivers that made it to the shakedown after scrutineering hold up. He made two runs: 4:17,4 and 4:15,5.

[Mirek]

That is very slow. Maybe some change of weather?

[N.O.T]

That is very slow. Maybe some change of weather?

its ok for his skills, you cannot have any conclusive results until the car is driven by a proper driver.

[Jasper]

That is very slow. Maybe some change of weather?

Only 3s from Gilbert's time, first time 4x4 + first time R5?

[AL14]

That is very slow. Maybe some change of weather?

it doesn't seem slow to me.
I expected 1.5-2.5 seconds per km slower than experienced drivers. Especially at first kms.
If you are judging the car it is better to look at Abbring/Sarrazin times.

[Mirek]

Maybe I overestimated his driving skills. Let's see :)

[EightGear]

Abbring:

Unfortunately no shakedown for us due to a slightly delayed homologation process today. Now this is solved and done we are ready and excited to tackle tomorrow's first test, a 53km stage to confirm the setup of the car! We can't wait, can you?

[dimviii]

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https://www.facebook.com/timoanisphotography/photos_stream?ref=page_internal

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/7sACkMpUvsw

https://youtu.be/snN1VIxUbik

[dimviii]

michelin shake video

https://youtu.be/hl-OkgZKmw8

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WRC SD

https://youtu.be/7IKmuWi_FUI

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kris Meeke: “It was a good morning for us. The stage was fairly representative of what to expect in Corsica. It’s good to be among the leaders in the shakedown, but the main thing is to be on the pace when the rally proper gets underway. We kick off tomorrow morning with what I would argue is the most difficult stage. You’ve got 50 kilometres of constant changes in pace, with roads that are wide in places and narrow and twisty in others. If you’re not quite on the money, you can easily lose 30 or 40 seconds in one go! Fortunately, it looks like the weather is going to be fairly mild for the first leg. The forecast is for more changeable weather on Saturday, so we’ll have to keep on an eye on that…”

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CthZwwJWEAALMkc.jpg:large

Breen was surprised at his SD time:
“I’m pleasantly surprised with my times, because I don’t really have much experience in the DS 3 WRC on tarmac. I have a good feeling in the car and I’m trying to take on board everything that the engineers have been telling me. I have got so many things to learn! Tomorrow, the first leg looks very tough because we’ve got to complete all four stages without a service break. Fortunately, I’m already familiar with these roads from having previously competed here in the ERC and the WRC. Lastly, I reckon that it’ll be more difficult again on Saturday because I think the roads are even more demanding. But this is all part and parcel of the fun at the Tour de Corse!”

Good luck chaps !
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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hyundai SD & Interviews

https://youtu.be/owAS0er5gd0

[sete]

you can see my gallery from shakedown and service
http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1485

[Simmi]

A bit more on the Hyundai delay - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/126411/hyundai-new-r5-misses-shakedown-after-delay?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[Munkvy]

Says a lot about Skoda and Kopecky that he easily beats all other R5s on his very first run. Clearly has the seat time and manufacturer setup advantage, but you would say Elfyn does too...

Although is there running order issues, looks like a bit of mud being dragged onto the road from what I can see in the youtube footage?

[Rallyper]

I should wait and look at stage times before any comments.

[AL14]

Rally Paradise ‏@rallyparadise 3 min3 minuti fa
#WRC #TourdeCorse Cancelled Entrants: @G_DEMEVIUS @QuentinGiordano @FDelecour, Casalonga, Valliccioni, Boschetti, Gragnola @TourdeCorseWRC

https://twitter.com/rallyparadise/status/781589793327157248

Is this account reliable?

[dupanton]

Delecour will certainly not start (lack of budget). Don't know about the rest.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtjDAHYWgAADIPl.jpg:large
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https://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/32/71/Rallye_Korsika_2016_008_327160_57ed2a2d1.jpg

[Jasper]

Rally Paradise ‏@rallyparadise 3 min3 minuti fa
#WRC #TourdeCorse Cancelled Entrants: @G_DEMEVIUS @QuentinGiordano @FDelecour, Casalonga, Valliccioni, Boschetti, Gragnola @TourdeCorseWRC

https://twitter.com/rallyparadise/status/781589793327157248

Is this account reliable?

Giordano is correct according to his facebook-page. 'Will not be @ Tour de Corse, we will continue testing, to end the season in the best conditions...'


Salut les amis,
nous ne serons pas au Tour de Corse avec Thomas et l'équipe cette semaine. Nous allons en profiter pour continuer de progresser avec la #208T16 lors de tests et se mettre dans les meilleures conditions pour la fin de saison ��
#SébastienLoebRacing

[cosmin_sb]

first crews are on the stage, let see what can happen :)

[AL14]

Good pace from Neuville and Meeke but I fear they're not being clever with tyres.

I still think Ogier will win going reverse

[andyone]

Good pace from Neuville and Meeke but I fear they're not being clever with tyres.

I still think Ogier will win going reverse

they are all goin as Ogiers pace. does it mean ogier is clever than them. doing the same thing? or is ogier a God tyres are not an issue to him?

[AL14]

they are all goin as Ogiers pace. does it mean ogier is clever than them. doing the same thing? or is ogier a God tyres are not an issue to him?

I have never seen a driver menaging tyres and keeping a good pace like Ogier.

[noel157]

Early days, we'll see who is tyre clever later this morning.
Mikklesen slow.

[noel157]

What's Ostberg on about? A project and stuff? 32 secs down.......

[Zeakiwi]

Ostberg converting to stage micro-analysis?
Tanak lacks grip with DMACKS?

[René]

Hello to all !

[René]

Good time for Meeke despite a hairpin

[RS]

Is this Breen's first tarmac event in a World Rally Car? Faster than Ostberg..

[EstWRC]

Good time for Meeke despite a hairpin

lol...NOT will love this.

[RS]

Good time by Evans.. Kopecky a bit slow. Let's see what the Hyundai R5 can do.

[noel157]

Is this Breen's first tarmac event in a World Rally Car? Faster than Ostberg..

Think it is his first asphalt run in WRC. Did a couple of Irish events in the family Focus WRC and Fiesta WRC few years ago.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good start by Meeke considering he had a spin.. and funny he commented on the dirty road. Touche Ogier. ;)

Awesome time by Evans in the R5... hope the car is ok as it was overheating.

[Eli]

His 6th event overall in a world rally car, 4th event in the DS3, & first time for both (world rally car & DS3) on Tarmac.

[MartijnS]

Abbring on the same pace as Kopecky, not bad. Evans just really fast.

[RS]

Abbring on the same pace as Kopecky, not bad. Evans just really fast.

Kopecky and Abbring said they took the stage a bit easy due to concerns about the tyres.

Presume there is a tyre service after SS2?

[stefanvv]

Ah look what is this? Is Meeke moaning about a dirty road?

[stefanvv]

Presume there is a tyre service after SS2?

Yes there is

[noel157]

Ah look what is this? Is Meeke moaning about a dirty road?

Quite the opposite. Just a dig at VW.

[Simmi]

"Very strange situation. I was coming to the stage and was warming the brakes. Unfortunately, Veiby crashed into me."

- From Martin Koci

[René]

Ah look what is this? Is Meeke moaning about a dirty road?

A subliminal message :)

[dimviii]

Tyre info: All Michelin @OfficialWRC drivers with 5 Pilot Sport H5

[dimviii]

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[EightGear]

Latvala slow again.

[Eric]

Latvala is having a tough year. Maybe we will see Ogier/Mikkelsen as VW 1 next season..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen quicker than Meeke at split 2 !

[dimviii]

Latvala slow again.

yeap,same pace as Paddon at ss2.

[dimviii]

Evans faster at 1st split from Kopecky

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke losing time, even slower than Neuville.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kopecky gaining on Evans now...

[Mirek]

Kopecky gaining on Evans now...

Evans probably suffered from higher tyre wear towards the end as he was pushing more on the previous stage. Still great start for him.

[René]

Sorry for the OFF...

The ever longest stage, will be soon complete. 12 years later, no split time but in livestream:
http://livestream.com/ESA/rosettagrandfinale

[Mirek]

Abbring slow compared to Kopecký and Evans but faster than others.

EDit: Bouffier faster.

[EightGear]

Abbring slow compared to Kopecký and Evans.
Yes, he believes the car is a bit too soft.

[EstWRC]

like i expected, a nightmare for Dmack.

[dodge33cymru]

Latvala is having a tough year. Maybe we will see Ogier/Mikkelsen as VW 1 next season..
All three will be VW1 next season ;)

[dimviii]

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[Mintexmemory]

His 6th event overall in a world rally car, 4th event in the DS3, & first time for both (world rally car & DS3) on Tarmac.
As I said on another thread, Craig is an excellent choice as Citroen No2 for next year, and likely to be a lot less expensive to hire than Neuville!

[RS]

Kopecky faster than all Fiesta WRCs on SS2.

Hyundai R5 nothing special yet but then Skoda took a few events to get the Fabia working well.

[dimviii]

i read at a French forum that Evans stopped at liason.Any confirmation?

[dimviii]

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[stefanvv]

i read at a French forum that Evans stopped at liason.Any confirmation?

So they said on the radio as well, no details though

[dimviii]

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[N.O.T]

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What happened to Bruno ? he looks 80.

[Oliverk]

What happened to Bruno ? he looks 80.
Well, he almost is.

[dimviii]

Well, he almost is.

borned 1962

[Mirek]

Kopecky faster than all Fiesta WRCs on SS2.

Nearly the same can be said about Evans. I would say it's saying a lot more about the drivers than the car...

[mousti]

Evans made it to the media zone

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[dimviii]

Evans made it to the media zone

Verstuurd vanaf mijn ONE E1003 met Tapatalk

if the problem is overheating,maybe its possible for liason,but not possible for stage?

[RS]

Nearly the same can be said about Evans. I would say it's saying a lot more about the drivers than the car...

I agree, although we should expect a bit more from Camilli here?

[noel157]

I agree, although we should expect a bit more from Camilli here?

I've learnt to expect little from him. OK, he's learning but WRC isn't the place to learn. He and Evans could well swap seats for a few events.

[Rally Power]

As I said on another thread, Craig is an excellent choice as Citroen No2 for next year, and likely to be a lot less expensive to hire than Neuville!

For sure money won’t be the problem. Breen is doing a geat job, but Citroen will never be manus champ with only Meeke and Breen. Neuville isn’t very popular around here, but people should recognize he’s one of WRC’s fastest and most complete drivers and he seems to be on the right track, again. With a new car, a fully committed team and two top drivers like Meeke and Neuville Citroen can became next season VW’s killer.

Nice first impression from the i20 R5.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke stopped... nooo... :(

[Eric]

Meeke stopped

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Moving again, possible puncture.

[N.O.T]

the driving is over after 3 stages.

And some people want challenging and long events.

plebs.

[AL14]

Anyway we can talk about Paddon being the future, about Meeke being a "real treat" and possible VW beater.
But as long as the frenchman is there no one will never beat him. Too much difference from the others.

[EstWRC]

one stage left and the day is over, lol....i dont like this rally at all, didnt like it last year and dont like it this year, they should drop it.

[Mintexmemory]

For sure money won’t be the problem. Breen is doing a geat job, but Citroen will never be manus champ with only Meeke and Breen. Neuville isn’t very popular around here, but people should recognize he’s one of WRC’s fastest and most complete drivers and he seems to be on the right track, again. With a new car, a fully committed team and two top drivers like Meeke and Neuville Citroen can became next season VW’s killer.

Nice first impression from the i20 R5.

Yes Neuville is fast but appears to have a variable psychology. Some days he appears disinterested. Also, his speed doesn't always translate to results, errors causing more of his retirements than mechanical failure (or is that a false impression?)

[dimviii]

one stage left and the day is over, lol..

not day,rally is over.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke puncturing now was the last thing the event needed.. :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans vs Kopecky is still going strong in WRC2 though... :) Let's hope neither gets a problem.

[Mirek]

Folb crashed behind flying finish. Koči in the lead among 2WD then?

[dimviii]

Folb crashed behind flying finish. Koči in the lead among 2WD then?

Pellier,Rossel,and Folb faster till now.

[dimviii]

Folb crashed behind flying finish.


Fri 15:49 - SS3 JWRC Folb –
The Frenchman explains his problem after the flying finish: "I went off the road after losing the brakes." He hopes he can continue to SS4.

[dimviii]

michelin video leg1
https://youtu.be/RYy1bQeFTTY

[BicioWrc]

Sordo seems he had some problems and he losing a lot of time...maybe puncture?

[Eric]

Almost 2 minutes behind Ogier on split 2. Looks like a puncture

[dupanton]

Paddon with his 2nd puncture of the loop. Has to get back to service (+100km) on a puncture...

[dimviii]

Ogier on his own.

[AL14]

Breen 6th and only 10 secs behind VWs.
Is this his first outing in a WRC on tarmac?

Anyway the guy this year is impressive.

[dimviii]

Evans 2,7 faster till slpit 2

[EightGear]

Breen 6th and only 10 secs behind VWs.
Is this his first outing in a WRC on tarmac?

Anyway the guy this year is impressive.
He has really surprised me, I did not expect this kind of pace from him in a WRC at all before this year.

[dimviii]

stages 1-2 including Meekes spin
https://youtu.be/uBZyiREzJvU

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I've been a fan following Breen for many years (ERC forum knows this) and even I've been surprised at his improvement since being in the WRC.

I knew he had talent and could be quick at times and on certain rallies, but his new found speed and consistency have been pretty amazing.

He has such a love of the sport and determination to succeed it is great to see him getting this reward. Hopefully he will get an even bigger reward soon with a 2017 seat -
he deserves it.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meekes spin

Absolutely identical to Monte Carlo !

[Fast Eddie WRC]

not day,rally is over.

For the win, but less than 1 min covers 2nd - 6th ...

Long stages = big gaps, but also the chance for big comebacks.

[Mintexmemory]

Given that Paul Nagle was Craig's co-driver in the successful SWRC season it is clear that the vibe in the Citroen camp is hugely positive - very apparent seeing them arrive back in service at the end of Rally Finland.
I am not in the least surprised that Craig has shown such ability - Every stage along the way of his career he has been able to see off the opposition. The 208 project was not indicative of his true ability as the difference between his performance and Abbring's in Finland showed.

[marcosg]

I am not in the least surprised that Craig has shown such ability - Every stage along the way of his career he has been able to see off the opposition. The 208 project was not indicative of his true ability as the difference between his performance and Abbring's in Finland showed.

well, I think you're very wrong here... Abbring is clearly another level... I may be wrong, but we'll never see Breen winning a championship (WRC)

[stefanvv]

Ogier on his own.

Fri 16:55 - SS4: Mikkelsen –
The Norwegian ends 10.7s slower than his dominant team-mate. "We're still in the fight. Séb has been in his own world today – very impressive. Maybe he's in the 2017 car already!"

[dimviii]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2016/1484/1484_thumb_tor_de_corse_2016_fd393446a8.jpg

more
http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1484#

[wia5958]

What level are u saying abbring is on then? And jees ostbergs times are dreadfull is there any reason for them?

[Rally Power]

Yes Neuville is fast but appears to have a variable psychology. Some days he appears disinterested. Also, his speed doesn't always translate to results, errors causing more of his retirements than mechanical failure (or is that a false impression?)

Bad impressions are always hard to change…we don’t know the reasons for Neuville’s last year (and this year first events) underperformance, but he clearly showed a better mood in Portugal and since then he has been the second best scorer on the series (71 points to 73 from Ogier).

On Breen there’s no doubt: his performance in Finland was outstanding and he totally deserves to be in WRC. Who knows, maybe Citroen will have a 3rd car sooner than expected.

[tc10a]

Quite dissapointed by the Hyundai R5 pace today I have to say. They don't have to look on championship points or need to finish the rally. Their only goal should be to show the outright speed of the car for future customers and try to set best times. With Abbiring and especially former Corse winner Sarrazin I was quite convinced that they will be hard to beat for Kopecky and Evans.

[rage82]

Maybe Citroen suits Craig's driving style more than Ford did? And he has information about the car setups directly from the works team.

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[RS]

Quite dissapointed by the Hyundai R5 pace today I have to say. They don't have to look on championship points or need to finish the rally. Their only goal should be to show the outright speed of the car for future customers and try to set best times. With Abbiring and especially former Corse winner Sarrazin I was quite convinced that they will be hard to beat for Kopecky and Evans.

My impressions from the videos we have seen is that the chassis is good but it is still underpowered compared to the leading cars. Could be wrong but that was just my feeling.

[Ucci]

Hey guys, it is first rallye for I20R5! If they finish, it will be already a success. No reason to go from the first stage flat out and risk a possible off because of driver(s) mistake(s). The team needs informations from stages, not from recovery and assistant vehicles digging cars from ditches....

[RS]

Hey guys, it is first rallye for I20R5! If they finish, it will be already a success. No reason to go from the first stage flat out and risk a possible off because of driver(s) mistake(s). The team needs informations from stages, not from recovery and assistant vehicles digging cars from ditches....

That sounds like a PR answer :p

They've done the testing.. now they need to know how fast the car is.

[Simmi]

Suninen struggling in Corsica it seems. Brake issues on SS1. I'm guessing a puncture on SS4? Anyone know?

Also does anyone know why Andolfi retired?

[AL14]

That sounds like a PR answer :p

They've done the testing.. now they need to know how fast the car is.

They have done 6 months testing. Skoda 1 year + 1 year in a lot of rallys. Ford builds R5 since the middle ages.
I think Hyundai is doing very good. Of course there is still work to do.

[tc10a]

They have done 6 months testing. Skoda 1 year + 1 year in a lot of rallys. Ford builds R5 since the middle ages.
I think Hyundai is doing very good. Of course there is still work to do.

Hyundai is a WRC manufacturer, one can expect to provide a R5 car being fast out of the box, as all winning cars have ever been.
But let's wait and see what they deliver the next two days.

[RS]

They have done 6 months testing. Skoda 1 year + 1 year in a lot of rallys. Ford builds R5 since the middle ages.
I think Hyundai is doing very good. Of course there is still work to do.

Development opportunities are quite limited with R5 cars so perhaps they should have done more?

But this is only one very specific type of rally, so too soon to tell that much yet.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I was criticised in the Rally Germany thread for calling Ogier an Asphalt Master. Doesn't today show it again ?

And did anyone really think Ogier would be challenged here, except maybe by Meeke ? And even before the puncture Ogier was ahead and managing his tyres.

The rally isnt over if you look below first place, which you must do in most events as Ogier is so good. There are still plenty of close battles for places, and maybe even seats for 2017.

[AL14]

Development opportunities are quite limited with R5 cars so perhaps they should have done more?

But this is only one very specific type of rally, so too soon to tell that much yet.

You are right, R5 is not a starter kit, but still, 6 months against middle ages and 1year testing + 1 year racing. You can't say it is the same.
But as you said, it's just first rally. Let's wait to judge.

[dimviii]

Meeke very close to Breen
https://twitter.com/OfficialWRC/media?lang=el

[Rallyper]

Hyundai is a WRC manufacturer, one can expect to provide a R5 car being fast out of the box, as all winning cars have ever been.
But let's wait and see what they deliver the next two days.

And so did Citroen you think? Hyundai have some more time to prove themselves. Be sure of that.

[dimviii]

AbuDhabiRacing ‏@AbuDhabiRacing1 Lucciana, France

Good morning from Bastia! Weather may be the key of today's leg #WRC #TourdeCorse


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtqUvteWIAANjib.jpg

[dimviii]

Becs Williams ‏@Becsywecsy

Good morning from @VolkswagenRally ! Beautiful morning in Corse but rain is on the way...#WRCLive is on air in 40 minutes ��

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtqZah2WEAAM1kD.jpg



Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally

Morning rally friends from la belle isle de Corse. Huge day ahead with rain forecast from 11ish. It's gona be fun

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtqbGehWYAA-LlZ.jpg

[René]

AbuDhabiRacing ‏@AbuDhabiRacing1 Lucciana, France

Good morning from Bastia! Weather may be the key of today's leg #WRC #TourdeCorse

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtqUvteWIAANjib.jpg


The lastest forecast this morning at 8h00. For the stages area,
The rain could appear at 12h00 until'at the end of the day

http://i97.servimg.com/u/f97/11/47/50/08/corse_10.jpg

[KKS]

Morning.
And Nueville have good morning too. -11.3 faster on 1st split

[wwbroe]

And Mikkelsen loosing allready about vife minutes?:eek:

[wwbroe]

Seems bizar, Mikkelsen is moving on WRC+, but Paddon is not??? Any more news?

[René]

Paddon split 2??

[wwbroe]

I think splits of Mikkelsen and Paddon are mixed-up, it is Paddon that is slow or standing still.

[Eric]

Neuville 12,5 behind on 3 split...?

[René]

Meeke is awakened...

[wwbroe]

What is going on with splits, or just problems with gps signal?

[René]

The splits time are become crazy. Camili - 1.11mn??

[Eli]

So we're expecting rain in a couple of hours?

[wwbroe]

So, 0,3 difference between Mikkelsen and Ogier after special stage of 53 Kms

[wwbroe]

Camilli is loosing 6 minutes on split 3, WTF is going on?

[EstWRC]

it is split 4 for him

[wwbroe]

Abbring on good speed in his Hyundai R5, fastest sofar in WRC2

[wwbroe]

it is split 4 for him

Ok, could be correct, same goes for Evans;)

[wwbroe]

Ostberg is loosing exactly 1 sec/km compared to besttime

[KKS]

wow... great Meeke time

[René]

Good chrono for Meeke

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great point on rally radio... Meeke needs points now in 2016 for a better road position in 2017.

[wwbroe]

Great time for Meeke, but he has not much to lose

[EstWRC]

Great point on rally radio... Meeke needs points now in 2016 for a better road position in 2017.

what?

[KKS]

it will more possible without that puncture yesterday :(

[René]

Breen print the team managers spirits for 2017 :)

[RS]

Ostberg is loosing exactly 1 sec/km compared to besttime

Now more..

[Eli]

Now more..
Yeah he's just a fish out of sea...wonder what he will drive next year.

[KKS]

Kopecky on tarmac not looking really fast compare to not very fast ex-wrc Evans with not very fast Fiesta R5

[Fast Eddie WRC]

what?

To get a good start in 2017 he needs a good Monte Carlo... so he doesnt want to start behind many cars on dirty roads.

A better Ch'ship finish in 2016 can place him higher up for Monte.

[RS]

Kopecky on tarmac not looking really fast compare to not very fast ex-wrc Evans with not very fast Fiesta R5

Who said the Fiesta R5 isn't fast? Also remember Evans' performance on Corsica last year?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke SS5:
Stage win guys :) (35:36.5)
I really thought that was slow! Everything in my mind is now focused on 2017.
This feels great !

[raybak]

Imagine how quick Evans would be in the right car!!!!

Also Ogier can cruise now and lose 10 secs a stage and still win.

Ray

[KKS]

Who said the Fiesta R5 isn't fast? Also remember Evans' performance on Corsica last year?
All top position now for Skoda's car. And I didn't follow last year rallies, so I remebmer that Evans pace is in a middle.

[EstWRC]

Meeke gone from rally

[wwbroe]

Meeke gone from rally

What happened, he stopped just in the stage.

[EstWRC]

Citroën Racing ‏@CitroenRacing 50s50 seconds ago
#WRC #TourdeCorse
@krismeeke hit a rock shortly after the start of SS6. Wheel broken and certainly the end of the day...

[wwbroe]

Pitty for Meeke, maybe a bit too fast

[RS]

All top position now for Skoda's car. And I didn't follow last year rallies, so I remebmer that Evans pace is in a middle.

I think that is largely because Skoda have 3/4 very strong drivers and Ford just Evans.

Corsica 2015: https://rally-base.com/2015/tour-de-corse-2015/

[spiderem]

Must be a bit hard for latvala to see breen not so far off his pace...

[EstWRC]

Breen must get that 2nd seat in Citroen...massive surprise this year. Meeke and Ogier battle will be amazing to watch next year, Meeke is just so fast at the moment. Dissapointed with Paddon, moving very slowly forward on tarmac, worrying for the future if he wants to fight for the championship. Camilli pretty good so far.

[Leon]

Citroën Racing ‏@CitroenRacing 50s50 seconds ago
#WRC #TourdeCorse
@krismeeke hit a rock shortly after the start of SS6. Wheel broken and certainly the end of the day...
Pls Meeke is back. Pity

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[Leon]

old Meeke is back. Pity

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

krismeeke.com ‏@krismeeke 1m1 minute ago
#WRC #TourdeCorse SS6
We are ok.. go wide on a corner.. Pace note was not correct.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The rain is on its way... could spice things up a bit.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtrJUA_WEAEE2Ud.jpg:large

[Simmi]

It will be fascinating next year to watch Meeke vs Ogier across a full season when both have the same championship mentality. Will Kris be able to hang with him or will we see mistakes creep in?

I have zero faith Latvala can put a challenge together. You have to wonder whether next year he will start to get left behind by Mikkelsen, Meeke, Paddon etc. Although I do agree with EstWRC about Hayden on tarmac. Breen is certainly showing a few people up with his pace relative to WRC car experience.

[Rallyper]

Breen´s doing well, but remember he´s not driving for anything actually, more than his own joy. We have to wait and see when it comes up to score points for manus.
Ostberg to me is a mystery right now.
Meeke back to stage one?
Camilli, well not a top guy yet.

[Simmi]

Breen´s doing well, but remember he´s not driving for anything actually, more than his own joy. We have to wait and see when it comes up to score points for manus.

With all due respect I'm calling b.s. on that one. Breen is driving for a full time WRC contract - so I'd say he's had far more pressure and more on the line than most this season.

Plus there is far too much emphasis placed by people on driving for manufacturer points. It's part of being a professional.

[tommeke_B]

+1, probably much more pressure than someone who has for example a 3-year contract.

[wwbroe]

Hard to believe, but first Ford is actually an R5 car.

Edit: i am wrong there, Camilli is still in front of Evans, but Ostberg is behind him. Says a lot about actual form of Mads.

[bluuford]

You have to keep in mind also the fact that it is his fifth Tour de Corse. He is among the most experienced WRC drivers in this event. Only Latvala has 6 starts and Dani 7 starts. Even for Ogier it is only fourth attemt and for example, for Tänak, it is second attemt.. and remember, last year it was totally different event and large part of the stages were cancelled. So, he has chosen good rally to show his speed. And definitely, these roads suit well to Citroen. Finally, he is doing very good, as he should :)

[Mirek]

Kopecky on tarmac not looking really fast compare to not very fast ex-wrc Evans with not very fast Fiesta R5

Evans was 2nd overall on Corsica in WRC 2015!

[KKS]

Abbring just now driving to service on road section with huge delay.
Day over or at least big penalty for arriving late to TC.

[Lead]

Is it raining already in Corsica?

[OldF]

Breen must get that 2nd seat in Citroen

There’s probably room for both Breen and Neuville.

FIA ANNOUNCES WORLD MOTOR SPORT COUNCIL DECISIONS 28.9.2016

“From 2017 a manufacturer may nominate a minimum of two and maximum of three cars for the purpose of scoring points in the Manufacturer’s Championship. Scores from the two best cars in the final classification will amass points in this Championship.”

http://www.fia.com/news/fia-announces-world-motor-sport-council-decisions-3

[Rallyper]

With all due respect I'm calling b.s. on that one. Breen is driving for a full time WRC contract - so I'd say he's had far more pressure and more on the line than most this season.

Plus there is far too much emphasis placed by people on driving for manufacturer points. It's part of being a professional.

What do we know about his contracts? Should be done for a time now, if he got any.

Edit: Citroen well knowing what to come from FIA.

[RS]

Abbring just now driving to service on road section with huge delay.
Day over or at least big penalty for arriving late to TC.

Do we know what the problem is?

[bluuford]

Do we know what the problem is?
Front right strut gone through top mount

[bluuford]

Is it raining already in Corsica?

Rain approaching from SW and S and anrrowly missing from E. Yes, it is raining in Corsica, not yet on the stages.

[RS]

Front right strut gone through top mount

Thanks. Presume he hit something?

[N.O.T]

Ogiers fails again to win every stage of an event and equal Loebs record.

why live ?

[bluuford]

Ogiers fails again to win every stage of an event and equal Loebs record.

why live ?
You should know it the best.. to suffer! ;)

[bluuford]

Thanks. Presume he hit something?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtrR0j1WgAAVuOX.jpg:large
maybe? car looks ok

[Simmi]

What do we know about his contracts? Should be done for a time now, if he got any.

Edit: Citroen well knowing what to come from FIA.

Well Citroen are still negotiating with Neuville - so I highly doubt they've sorted anything out with Breen or Lefebvre yet until that is finalised. I saw Kristian Solberg saying he thinks that Craig and Stephane will share the third car if Neuville signs. Normally Citroen waits until the end of the season to get their drivers sorted.

As OldF says, hopefully these FIA rules will force Citroen into running a permanent third car. Was disappointing to hear Matton talking conservatively of only two cars next season.

[dimviii]

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke explains error:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/126449/meeke-pacenote-error-caused-corsica-crash

[dimviii]

Michelin Motorsport ‏@Michelin_Sport

#tyre info: Ogier/Latvala/Breen/M-Sport/Paddon: 4 Pilot Sport H5+2S5
Mikkelsen/Neuville: 4H+1S
Sordo: 5H #Tourdecorse #WRC

[N.O.T]

net stage is on, it is wet or dry ?

[bluuford]

net stage is on, it is wet or dry ?

More dry than wet. OTt should be 3+1 for this stage ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ott Tanak chooses 3 hard and 3 soft compound tyres for this afternoon.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke back at service park. The car will be repaired now for a Rally2 comeback tomorrow...

Said he wants the experience in mixed conditions.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ctr04X8WEAAdPIW.jpg

[dimviii]

AbuDhabiRacing ‏@AbuDhabiRacing1 Lucciana, France

#WRC #TourdeCorse
@krismeeke back at service park. The car will be repaired now for a Rally2 comeback tomorrow

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rain confirmed on the next stage.

[dimviii]

net stage is on, it is wet or dry ?


Weather
The weather is dry in SS7, but there are dark clouds at km 29 which could rise to the storm!