Wales Rally GB 2016

[dimviii]

yes splits now works for me to.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Really great times for Tänak, Breen and Meeke considering their starting pos.

But their top 3 times on SD meant nothing apparently...

[EightGear]

Abbring stopped. -___-

[Mirek]

Fuchs and Veiby already in troubles.

[dimviii]

Abbring stopped. -___-

are you kidding?

[EightGear]

are you kidding?
Unfortunately not

[dimviii]

Tidemand not good pace at ss1.Lets see at next stages.

[HarriK]

where you get your splits?

Original page is SitSports page. Need passwords etc. ;)

[KKS]

Abbring stopped at road section or on stage? didn't see stage line on wrc+ map

[dimviii]

Ogier did he moaned about start position?

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen 9,2 sec from Ogier at 1st split of ss3

[Eric]

Paddon over a minute behind on first split:confused:

[Mirek]

Strange with Sordo as well. Maybe a timing error.

[dimviii]

Paddon over a minute behind on first split:confused:

And Sordo...Neuville with no splits who is before them...

[dimviii]

Hyundai Motorsport ‏@HMSGOfficial · 24s24 seconds ago

. @KevinAbbring is stuck in a ditch 7.2km into SS1 Myherin. He and @sebmarshall are OK, but they cannot rejoin the road.

[Mirek]

Now JML -2 minutes, so the timing system is again broken.

[Eric]

Latvala 2 minuts faster. I thiiiiink there is something wrong with the splits:p

[EightGear]

Hyundai Motorsport ‏@HMSGOfficial · 24s24 seconds ago

. @KevinAbbring is stuck in a ditch 7.2km into SS1 Myherin. He and @sebmarshall are OK, but they cannot rejoin the road.
That's a very stupid mistake to make...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Bad reception at Sweet Lamb prob to blame...

[René]

The splits time have become totaly schizophrenic

[AL14]

Splits doesn't work, wrc+ maps doesn't work often, android app crashes all the time.
Go home.

[KKS]

Hyundai Motorsport ‏@HMSGOfficial · 24s24 seconds ago

. @KevinAbbring is stuck in a ditch 7.2km into SS1 Myherin. He and @sebmarshall are OK, but they cannot rejoin the road.
Sad news for him, but pretty good for Suninen.
And that off for Lappi too seems be pretty OK for Suninen rally

[dimviii]

splits show Meeke faster,but is it real?

[Eric]

How hard can it be to have some working splits. Its 2016...

[Mirek]

Lappi took 3,5 seconds back from Suninen's lead on Sweet Lamb.

[dimviii]

Lappi faster at ss2,so car is working at least.Nice to have all crews at the dogfight.

[Thousandlakes]

I think splits worked pretty well when they came. Was it early 2000. What is this shit now. We are living 2016

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SD winner Tanak.. fastest on SS3 ! ;)

[dimviii]

Tanak fastest.
Wilson show him the exit door last year.
Hopefully he will be correct at his decisions this time.

[Mirek]

Lappi 4,4 faster than Sunninen on split 1 of SS3.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak fastest.
Wilson show him the exit door last year.
Hopefully he will be correct at his decisions this time.

Tanak has improved in 2016 so Wilson's decision did him good.

[jparker]

just the tyres, he is generally really slow driver you know

Well, to be honest, you are correct. Too much hype expectations around Tanak, and two years later, nothing. Just one more failure for Malcolm Wilson.

[EstWRC]

yes but i think he would have improved a lot more with michelins...like he says, he has the experience and confidence now

[dimviii]

Tanak has improved in 2016 so Wilson's decision did him good.

yes did him good the absence of useless pressure from Wilson.

[EstWRC]

Well, to be honest, you are correct. Too much hype expectations around Tanak, and two years later, nothing. Just one more failure for Malcolm Wilson.

so who are Camilli and Ostberg for him? Failures of the century for him?

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cv2AZGoUIAAy7-s.jpg

[Mirek]

I guess the slow time from SS1 was partially caused by that damaged exhaust pipe.

[KKS]

And Lappi on the lead

[Mirek]

Tidemand is strangely slow.

[René]

The second run will be interesting to follow, in order to see if the differences will remain identical to the first run...

[AL14]

Good job by Tanak considering his road position this is a leading pace.
I agree with you when you say DMACK was a good option for him. This year he had not pressure because when he failed he could blame the tires and when he went fast it was because of him. This help him to work to improve his driving. Of course he has still lot of work to do.

A pity he's not given a chance with a bit more competitive car but that's a chance one can earn...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

yes did him good the absence of useless pressure from Wilson.

Top sportsmen thrive on pressure. If you think driving for M-Sport is pressure, try driving for a manufacturer (like Citroen).

[dimviii]

A pity he's not given a chance with a bit more competitive car but that's a chance one can earn...

so you believe that Tanak with not competetive car can win stages from Ogier?

[EstWRC]

he had a chance to go to hyundai but he didnt want

[dimviii]

Top sportsmen thrive on pressure. If you think driving for M-Sport is pressure, try driving for a manufacturer (like Citroen).

yes but Tanak wasn't a ''top sportsman'' Wilson knew that,so his pressure was stupid.
''Top sportsmans'' costs money.
if you are not willing to pay,you have to be patient at least.
No patience and no will to spent money= ridicoulus decisions.as you saw this year,with Tanak being faster from ''official'' Msport drivers.
That's the reason why Wilson is so patience with Camilli this year.

[Mirek]

Top sportsmen thrive on pressure. If you think driving for M-Sport is pressure, try driving for a manufacturer (like Citroen).

How do You know?

[dimviii]

Tidemand is strangely slow.

Pontus Tidemand ‏@PontusTidemand

SS3 #WalesRallyGB: Was very careful.Can push more for sure, but too easy to make a mistake. #WRC2

[AL14]

so you believe that Tanak with not competetive car can win stages from Ogier?

Sorry I don't understand what you mean

[N.O.T]

so you believe that Tanak with not competetive car can win stages from Ogier?
Yes, and maybe rallies under favourable conditions. But with a competitive car he could win rallies without having to be on the limit all the time.

[KKS]

Engine trouble for Tidemand, lost power

[cali]

Sorry I don't understand what you mean
He means that Ford is not slow but their drivers are. Tänak proved that Ford still can challenge for wins.

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[SVrally]

What a rally! I'd like to see Ott with a Top Car for two or three years in a row. But I think that next year he will race with M-Sport.

[SVrally]

He means that Ford is not slow but their drivers are. Tänak proved that Ford still can challenge for wins.
I think that Ford is at least one step below the other competitors.

[cali]

I think that Ford is at least one step below the other competitors.
Probably

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[AL14]

He means that Ford is not slow but their drivers are. Tänak proved that Ford still can challenge for wins.

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Thanks cali. :)
Of course me too I believe that Ford is not a crap car as someone say but I also think it is not as competitive as others like Hhyundai or of course VW. In that case he could have a competitive pace without taking too many risks as he does now.

[EstWRC]

Yes, and maybe rallies under favourable conditions. But with a competitive car he could win rallies without having to be on the limit all the time.

spot on!!!

[itix]

I think it is high time for Hyundai to change Abbring now... I have no idea what happened to him between 2014 and now but he clearly lost both speed and consistency.

[dimviii]

Yes, and maybe rallies under favourable conditions. But with a competitive car he could win rallies without having to be on the limit all the time.

No you cant win Ogier with not competetive car, at straight fight with not any advantage as today stage.
Fiesta is a competetive car all these years,well proven from many drivers.

[Oliverk]

I think that Ford is at least one step below the other competitors.

So Tänak is one step above all other drivers?

[dimviii]

He means that Ford is not slow but their drivers are. Tänak proved that Ford still can challenge for wins.

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that's right.

[jparker]

so who are Camilli and Ostberg for him? Failures of the century for him?

Well, if it comforts you that Tanak is not the only failure, I'm OK with that.

[dimviii]

Thanks cali. :)
Of course me too I believe that Ford is not a crap car as someone say but I also think it is not as competitive as others like Hhyundai or of course VW. In that case he could have a competitive pace without taking too many risks as he does now.

I don't think that Hyundai is better from fiesta.

[jparker]

I think that Ford is at least one step below the other competitors.

You are not the only one that thinks the same, it always has been, and it always will be.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

How do You know?

From Meeke and his experience at Citroen with Matton's pressure.

But Meeke fought and won a long deal. That's what Tanak is now doing.

DMack is still MSport btw, just different tyres.

[Mirek]

From Meeke and his experience at Citroen with Matton's pressure.

But Meeke fought and won a long deal. That's what Tanak is now doing.

DMack is still MSport btw, just different tyres.

When was Meeke driving for Malcolm?

[N.O.T]

Compared to proper teams the ford is nothing. Results only come from driver ability on special events. The amount of data msport has from uk rallying roads
helps a lot but as a car the ford is nothing.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

What happened to Ingram ?

Team now recovering ADAM #87 from @WalesRallyGB SS2. Once fixed @ChrisIngramGB @EAERallying aim to re-start under SuperRally rules.

[dimviii]

What happened to Ingram ?

Team now recovering ADAM #87 from @WalesRallyGB SS2. Once fixed @ChrisIngramGB @EAERallying aim to re-start under SuperRally rules.

transmission problems stopped him.

[dimviii]

Kevin Abbring ‏@KevinAbbring · 12m12 minutes ago

Gutted! One of the rear tyres popped off the rim and no way to control the car, span, got stuck on the inside.On our way back now, no damage


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[Fast Eddie WRC]

When was Meeke driving for Malcolm?

You think driving for Wilson's private team is more pressure than Matton's multi-WRC winners Citroen ??

[jparker]

Question. How many spare tyres can driver take in the car? If soft is best for current conditions, but bad for endurance, why not take 4 spares. Yes, overweight is taxing, but in this conditions maybe good option?

[dimviii]

You think driving for Wilson's private team is more pressure than Matton's multi-WRC winners Citroen ??

don't remember pressure for Ogier, Ostberg and Hirvonen.At least openly from interviews.

[dimviii]

Fri 11:24 - SS4: Mikkelsen –
The first split is showing Mikkelsen is already 30.0s slower than Ogier at the first split – 6.80km in. The Norwegian may have had a problem. More to follow...

[dimviii]

small clip with Lappi from ss3
https://twitter.com/EsapekkaLappi

[Mirek]

You think driving for Wilson's private team is more pressure than Matton's multi-WRC winners Citroen ??

I am asking how do You know. You think it is, that's ok, but You pass it like a fact which it is not.

[Mirek]

Mikklesen with broken driveshaft.

[Eric]

Looks like the Mikkelsen will have to concentrate on the 3 place in the championship.

[dimviii]

easy job now for Neuville for the 2nd place at championship,.Mikkelsen has to do all stages at afternoon with the broken shaft,he is going toloose massive time.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cv2RFS9UIAAqhN_.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I am asking how do You know. You think it is, that's ok, but You pass it like a fact which it is not.

I know what Matton said and how Meeke reacted.

BTW, the word 'you' does not have a capital letter...

[denkimi]

Question. How many spare tyres can driver take in the car? If soft is best for current conditions, but bad for endurance, why not take 4 spares. Yes, overweight is taxing, but in this conditions maybe good option?
There is only room for 2.

[Danny0405]

easy job now for Neuville for the 2nd place at championship,.Mikkelsen has to do all stages at afternoon with the broken shaft,he is going toloose massive time.

Not that simple because Paddon is also rising. He could be on the podium in Wales and Neuville is only 7th at the moment (whereas there is only a 13-point gap before Wales). And Paddon would have a better road position in Australia.
The fight in Australia could be very interesting

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SD winner Tanak fastest again. ;)

[BicioWrc]

There is only room for 2.

not true, you can give one tyre in hands of codriver and one put one on top of the deck :D

[AL14]

SD winner Tanak fastest again. ;)

You have to write this all rally long?
I don't have time to waste otherwise I would have shown you all the time a SD winner literally sucked at the event.
SD can give some hint but says nothing solid since it's just a warming up for drivers and a way to try some minor changing in the setup.

Anyway you think different and that is ok. Just move on now.

[N.O.T]

You have to write this all rally long?
I don't have time to waste otherwise I would have shown you all the time a SD winner literally sucked at the event.
SD can give some hint but says nothing solid since it's just a warming up for drivers and a way to try some minor changing in the setup.

Anyway you think different and that is ok. Just move on now.
Give the guy a break, he is pretty basic man. Its good that rallying keeps him busy.

[Tauri_J]

You have to write this all rally long?
I don't have time to waste otherwise I would have shown you all the time a SD winner literally sucked at the event.
SD can give some hint but says nothing solid since it's just a warming up for drivers and a way to try some minor changing in the setup.

Anyway you think different and that is ok. Just move on now.

SD times are pointless if you look the times after all the passings.

What matters are the first two passings. Those times could actually show some truth about who's gonna be fast and who's gonna struggle.

[N.O.T]

SD times are pointless if you look the times after all the passings.

What matters are the first two passings. Those times could actually show some truth about who's gonna be fast and who's gonna struggle.
No.

[WUff1]

I think it is high time for Hyundai to change Abbring now... I have no idea what happened to him between 2014 and now but he clearly lost both speed and consistency.

Abbring has gone the RK way, more crashing than delivering. We shouldn´t forget he never really delivered in a WRC/R5/S2000 car in his career.

[Tauri_J]

No.

well go check those shakedown times and you'll see it yourself

[BigWorm]

Abbring has gone the RK way, more crashing than delivering. We shouldn´t forget he never really delivered in a WRC/R5/S2000 car in his career.

He really should go for circuit racing rather than rally, he's so underwhelming during a whole rally.

[peter_85]

Abbring has gone the RK way, more crashing than delivering. We shouldn´t forget he never really delivered in a WRC/R5/S2000 car in his career.
How much he crushed in recent years?

[itix]

A surprising amount actually
http://ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=2083&t=Kevin-Abbring

[dupanton]

Abbring his off was due to a puncture!

[itix]

Abbring his off was due to a puncture!

Tyres don't pop off the rim by themselves. Maybe he hit something sharp that was pulled up but he was on fresh tyres so that's about the only thing that could have happened.

[peter_85]

He really should go for circuit racing rather than rally, he's so underwhelming during a whole rally.
In my opinion he went too early in a WRC car. Firstly he should do more WRC rounds in R5 class.

[KKS]

Tyres don't pop off the rim by themselves. Maybe he hit something sharp that was pulled up but he was on fresh tyres so that's about the only thing that could have happened.
You never went on small stone and have punctured tyre for nothing?

[itix]

Nope... I've hit a wooden screw on the highway once but that's about it.
My theory is that he was surprised by the low grip, but we won't know until some video surface...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

You have to write this all rally long?
I don't have time to waste otherwise I would have shown you all the time a SD winner literally sucked at the event.
SD can give some hint but says nothing solid since it's just a warming up for drivers and a way to try some minor changing in the setup.

Anyway you think different and that is ok. Just move on now.

All rally, no just this morning.

So you dont think Tanaks SD time indicated anything, not his confidence, not his good tyres for the event ?

Plus you are always the first to post when he has a good SD, like yesterday...

Not always, but sometimes SD does show something.

[René]

Ogier slower than this morning

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Quick video SS 1-4

https://youtu.be/WddqL_uNnOo

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS5: MIKKELSEN – He's into the stage with his two-wheel-drive Polo R. The organisers have given him a four-minute gap over Neuville to try and minimise the risk of the Norwegian being caught.

[dimviii]

Michelin Motorsport ‏@Michelin_Sport ·

#tyre info: all Michelin @OfficialWRC drivers with 5 Michelin LTX Force S except Mikkelsen with 6S #WRGB #wrc

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier slower than this morning

He's faster now.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen seems stopped... rolled.:(

[dimviii]

Citroën Racing ‏@CitroenRacing · 28s29 seconds ago  Wales, United Kingdom

#WRC #WRGB SS5 @craig_breen rolled in SS5, crew OK

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Possibly the first real mistake by Breen in the DS3. Not bad though considering the little time he's had in the WRC car.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

All are losing time to Ogier on the last section of SS5.

[Negaiss]

Sunninen takes 7 minutes from Ogier at second split and storms into a rally lead with an wrc2 car. What a drive :)

[itix]

Lefebvre should have come in by now and has stopped moving on the GPS map :/
hmmm

...bad day for Citroen? Let's hope not

Edit; he moved. Technology playing tricks again (really, how hard can it be to get this stuff working?)

[Mirek]

Hi-speed spin for Suninen and over 20 seconds lost.

[dupanton]

Hi-speed spin for Suninen and over 20 seconds lost.

I have a time of +1min08 ?? Seems more than a spin...

[Mirek]

The timing is strange. They wrote 21 seconds oin the live text but there is 1:08 on the board now. Also big time lost for Tidemand.

Edit: Now +8 seconds..., Tidemand also changed. Crazy.

[dupanton]

The timing is strange. They wrote 21 seconds oin the live text but there is 1:08 on the board now. Also big time lost for Tidemand.

They changed his time to +8s ! The fight is still on!

[EstWRC]

no chance for others to fight Ogier, he is just running away and i havent heard him complaining about his start pos. so far ;)

[KKS]

After talks about clean runs without any scrape - Breen rolled.

[Mirek]

Lappi 7th time ahead of Paddon on Sweet Lamb.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Seen this.. Redbull 'Battle-Cam' ??

http://www.redbull.com/en/motorsports/offroad/stories/1331826245032/wrc-shakedown-rally-wales-2016-battlecam

[dupanton]

Latvala lost 1min45??

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Latvala in trouble.

[stefanvv]

Seen this.. Redbull 'Battle-Cam' ??

http://www.redbull.com/en/motorsports/offroad/stories/1331826245032/wrc-shakedown-rally-wales-2016-battlecam

Interesting. Now they need to put the cameras in same position.

[EstWRC]

transmission problem for Latvala...

[dimviii]

Jari-Matti Latvala ‏@JariMattiWRC · 17s18 seconds ago

SS7 « I’m very frustrated. We have a transmission problem and there’s nothing we can do about that » #Volkswagen #WRC

[EstWRC]

Tänak lost a intercom and still struggling with the rear but is the only on who can show Ogier like pace, lol

[BicioWrc]

transmission problem for Latvala...

Ogier this morning was telling also was feeling something strange in trasmission, colin in wrc radio was asking to jari matti if his trasmission was ok and he replied: yes no problem...
and now::(

[Eric]

VW should be happy they have Ogier. Latvala and Mikkelsen is not doing a great job at the moment. Would been fun to see two Hyundai at the podium at the end of the season :D

[smsgrafica]

Suddenly, after taking shots at Ogier all year long for moaning, Meeke now moans about his road position...

[smsgrafica]

Latvala and Mikkelsen is not doing a great job at the moment.

They have mechanical failures, you know...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Suddenly, after taking shots at Ogier all year long for moaning, Meeke now moans about his road position...

Said he did a perfect stage so where the moaning ? He also said he's not here to just salvage points but to be competitive - good attitude IMO.

[dimviii]

Suninen loosing 22 sec at split 4

[Fast Eddie WRC]

VolkswagenMotorsport ‏@VolkswagenRally 2m2 minutes ago
UPDATE: @JariMattiWRC suffering from a broken drive shaft

[Eric]

They have mechanical failures, you know...

In the last three rallies, they have one podium finish..(And that was a 3 place) Yes, this time its mechanical failures, I'm just saying they haven't taken as much point as I'm guessing VW are expecting

[smsgrafica]

Said he did a perfect stage so where the moaning ? He also said he's not here to just salvage points but to be competitive - good attitude IMO.

"Very slippery! Thought I'd have dropped more time. Perfect conditions if you are the 1st on the road."

[stefanvv]

Meeke is moaning at every stage end.

[Mirek]

Kopecký spun.

[EstWRC]

will Ogier's car hold together ? :p

[itix]

There are loads of times missing from WRC2 and all of them have fininshed. Anybody have another source (not wrc/wrc + or ewrc) that actually have the times?

[rp]

will Ogier's car hold together ? :p

Of course! He is Sébastien and a French driver...

[KKS]

Good and strong run for Lappi with damaged car. And in this condition he was faster then Suninen and beat him, first of all psychologically pressure on him... and he spun? Now huge 50sec advantage and Lappi can enable "Safe mode driving".

[Fast Eddie WRC]

"Very slippery! Thought I'd have dropped more time. Perfect conditions if you are the 1st on the road."

That's just a statement of fact. I dont see that as 'moaning'.

Moaning is making excuses for your own failings.

[Mirek]

Good and strong run for Lappi with damaged car. And in this condition he was faster then Suninen and beat him, first of all psychologically pressure on him... and he spun? Now huge 50sec advantage and Lappi can enable "Safe mode driving".

This time Lappi was lucky with his off.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS8 delayed start..

[KKS]

This time Lappi was lucky with his off.
any video from that half crash on SS1?

[KKS]

SS8 delayed start.. too many spectators?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Still no photos / videos of Breen's off ?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Wales Rally GB ‏@WalesRallyGB 2m2 minutes ago
The last stage Dyfnant 2 is delayed. (Est.20-25m delay). Non rallying related.

[dimviii]

Meeke is moaning at every stage end.

give us the links with the moaning stage ends,because I cant find them


nice photo

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[AL14]

give us the links with the moaning stage ends,because I cant find them


nice photo

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/14639589_10153885619475264_6822483580970467709_n.j pg?oh=bb9aeb9add55a2d9152cd6872369d4f2&oe=58965AC3

Very nice. A pity it is vertical :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

All I can find by Meeke:

SS1 Myherin 1 31.82 km 18:18.7 6. 104.3 0.37 18:18.7
"Thought I'd have dropped more time – hellishly slippery. Perfect conditions if you're the first on the road."
SS3 Hafren 1 35.14 km 20:54.9 4. 100.8 0.27 42:09.4
"A really tricky morning in conditions that we didn't want. The roads are like ice. I'm doing as much as I want to do to keep things safe."
SS4 Dyfnant 1 17.91 km 10:27.8 6. 102.7 0.50 52:37.2
"I had a good rhythm but just no grip. I did my best in there."
SS7 Hafren 2 35.14 km 21:18.4 5. 99.0 0.56 1:35:03.8
"That was a perfect stage for me and I did all I could."

[AL14]

If Lappi 1st and Suninen 2nd than it will be enough for Lappi to arrive 2nd Australia am I right?

[KKS]

If Lappi 1st and Suninen 2nd than it will be enough for Lappi to arrive 2nd Australia am I right?
jep

[dupanton]

If Lappi 1st and Suninen 2nd than it will be enough for Lappi to arrive 2nd Australia am I right?

Correct!

[KKS]

Michelin Motorsport ‏@Michelin_Sport (https://twitter.com/Michelin_Sport) 11m11 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/Michelin_Sport/status/792036405849522179)
SS8: We're looking at a 20-minute delay to the start of Dyfnant 2. This is because of a non-rally related incident in the stage #wrc (https://twitter.com/hashtag/wrc?src=hash) #WRGB (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WRGB?src=hash)

[KKS]

Nueville didn't start with 2 min gap after Mikelsen :/

[AL14]

Correct!

thanks.
Considering he will not have proper opposition in Australia except maybe Fuchs he isn't far from the accomplishment.

[stefanvv]

Nueville didn't start with 2 min gap after Mikelsen :/

he is 4 minutes starting due to Mikkelsen's problem.

[stefanvv]

All I can find by Meeke:

SS1 Myherin 1 31.82 km 18:18.7 6. 104.3 0.37 18:18.7
"Thought I'd have dropped more time – hellishly slippery. Perfect conditions if you're the first on the road."
SS3 Hafren 1 35.14 km 20:54.9 4. 100.8 0.27 42:09.4
"A really tricky morning in conditions that we didn't want. The roads are like ice. I'm doing as much as I want to do to keep things safe."
SS4 Dyfnant 1 17.91 km 10:27.8 6. 102.7 0.50 52:37.2
"I had a good rhythm but just no grip. I did my best in there."
SS7 Hafren 2 35.14 km 21:18.4 5. 99.0 0.56 1:35:03.8
"That was a perfect stage for me and I did all I could."

Sounds like moaning to me (by the forum standards of course, otherwise all seems normal).

[EstWRC]

Ogier's driveshaft went just in the end of the stage, lucky guy

[stefanvv]

Fri 17:36 - SS8: Ogier –
The rally leader has been lucky on the final stage. "I'm really happy that the day is finished because I think the driveshaft has just broken in there. It's definitely something we need to work on because three cars suffering the same problem in the same day has never happened before."

[mousti]

Nueville didn't start with 2 min gap after Mikelsen :/
Is logical they got that, so they would have no problems with Mikkelsen..

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[dimviii]

Sounds like moaning to me (by the forum standards of course, otherwise all seems normal).

what do you mean ''by forums standards''?

[Gregor-y]

I wonder if Ogier is a bit more gentile with the car since his failed last. Or lasted at all.

[EstWRC]

Tänak with a puncture last 6km-s...the day just went worse with every stage after morning loop.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Well at least we only lost Breen of the top guys today... not bad in tricky conditions.

Any news on his car for Rally2 ?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tänak with a puncture last 6km-s...the day just went worse with every stage after morning loop.

Still a solid second to Ogier.. excellent all things considered.

[stefanvv]

Any news on his car for Rally2 ?

He is (re)starting tomorrow

[dimviii]

Michelin video day1
https://youtu.be/cdjftcoxbuk

[Fast Eddie WRC]

He is (re)starting tomorrow

Great news.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WRC report on Wales TV channel S4C at 19.30uk

http://www.s4c.cymru/clic/e_live.shtml

[dimviii]

https://www.rally.it/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/RubnPerez_2016-ott-28-1068x801.jpg

[dimviii]

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14591575_1148708108542423_4809919366373699962_n.jp g?oh=9513c3bb6bc12681e6b2a75819ac9228&oe=589DB983

[KKS]

it's all OK with Suninen? He's dot freezze at road section.

[peg306]

Video from Lappi's tree hit, also Tidemand big moment in the same corner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCbpgMV1kN8

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqEOAfkXF_8

[AL14]

Video from Lappi's tree hit, also Tidemand big moment in the same corner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCbpgMV1kN8

No doubt they chosed a nice spot

[dimviii]

Opens&Tightens ‏@OpensTightens

#WRC #WRGB SS5
@Craig_Breen @scottmartinat rolled 2km into 'Myherin 2' this afternoon. Both are OK, and ready for #Rally2 2morrow!

[KKS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqEOAfkXF_8
Hyundai looks spectacular!

[KKS]

Tanak puncture after last stage today
https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/792087617831571456

[OldF]

Video from Lappi's tree hit, also Tidemand big moment in the same corner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCbpgMV1kN8

He,he, Motorsport Traveller is forum member Tinke1979.

https://www.facebook.com/motorsporttraveller/

https://www.youtube.com/user/travelingwmotorsport

The latest post from him I found on the video thread is http://www.motorsportforums.com/showthread.php?121-Video-Thread&p=1100698&viewfull=1#post1100698

[car]

https://www.rally.it/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/RubnPerez_2016-ott-28-1068x801.jpg

I was there too! Did you get video?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Watched MotorsTV Day 1 highlights show with Becs Williams and not one view of or interview with Kris Meeke... the only GB home driver !! :(

[dimviii]

I was there too! Did you get video?

I just found the photo at net.

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14595763_1150040588409175_1332412331002849614_n.jp g?oh=eee668b0734f58d84a184eabe429f403&oe=58A767B1

more
https://www.facebook.com/pg/timoanisphotography/photos/?ref=page_internal

[dimviii]

Opens&Tightens ‏@OpensTightens

#WRC #WRGB SS5
@Craig_Breen @scottmartinat rolled 2km into 'Myherin 2' this afternoon. Both are OK, and ready for #Rally2 2morrow!


No Breen tomorrow..

craigbreen__A day to forget... In a big battle for a podium place after the first loop but unfortunatly got caught out on a slippy left hander in Myherin and we rolled. Unfortunatly the damage is too much to repair and our weekend ends here. So so dissapointed, but we can be proud of our speed this morning!

[itix]

Fri 17:36 - SS8: Ogier –
The rally leader has been lucky on the final stage. "I'm really happy that the day is finished because I think the driveshaft has just broken in there. It's definitely something we need to work on because three cars suffering the same problem in the same day has never happened before."

Ogier has a short memory. The failed bosch injectors on argentina last(?) year is still fresh in my memory.

[Rallyper]

No Breen tomorrow..

craigbreen__A day to forget... In a big battle for a podium place after the first loop but unfortunatly got caught out on a slippy left hander in Myherin and we rolled. Unfortunatly the damage is too much to repair and our weekend ends here. So so dissapointed, but we can be proud of our speed this morning!

However speed that made him end in a ditch. Understand he´s gutted.

[SubaruNorway]

I never got this, Mikkelsen's driveshaft broke on the road section? It's already broken at the start of Dyfnant.

[Rally Power]

180 kms without a service break seems a bit too much. Drivers aren’t able to repair small problems or change set ups and time differences get too big to be recovered. Still hoping to see Tanak attacking the lead, but it won’t be easy without a (rare) mistake from Ogier.

Fantastic Lappi so far, but Suninen will certainly give it all tomorrow. Peugeot WRC2 nightmare continues after another ditch experience from Suarez…his compatriot Lopez is doing a better job in WRC3, still a long way from Koci and Tempestini.

[Munkvy]

180 kms without a service break seems a bit too much. Drivers aren’t able to repair small problems or change set ups and time differences get too big to be recovered. Still hoping to see Tanak attacking the lead, but it won’t be easy without a (rare) mistake from Ogier.

Fantastic Lappi so far, but Suninen will certainly give it all tomorrow. Peugeot WRC2 nightmare continues after another ditch experience from Suarez…his compatriot Lopez is doing a better job in WRC3, still a long way from Koci and Tempestini.

It's almost like Rallying becomes an endurance event, where it is about balancing risk versus reward, rather than just going flat out... Almost like the drivers have to think, not just whoever has the fastest car and drives the quickest. That sounds like a terrible idea... ;)

[stefanvv]

Ogier has a short memory. The failed bosch injectors on argentina last(?) year is still fresh in my memory.

Did Mikkelsen's had them? What I remember it was in Ogier's & Latvala's Polos.

[dimviii]

small clip with Meeke
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMImM4bBc6R/


Hayden Paddon ‏@HaydenPaddon

A shorter day, but no servicing and no tyre fit, so strategy and speed key today @WalesRallyGB

[dimviii]

Michelin Motorsport ‏@Michelin_Sport · 5m5 minutes ago

#tyre info: All Michelin @OfficialWRC drivers with 6 Michelin LTX Force S #WRC #WRGB

[garais22]

Breen`s off with some rolls :(
http://www.go4speed.lv/lv/mustsee/wrc/1393-video-brinam-pec-avarijas-velsas-wrc-rallijs-beidzies-lapi-tarane-koku/

[AndyRAC]

It's almost like Rallying becomes an endurance event, where it is about balancing risk versus reward, rather than just going flat out... Almost like the drivers have to think, not just whoever has the fastest car and drives the quickest. That sounds like a terrible idea... ;)

It's muddled thinking; a sprint event is still a sprint event whether they have a mid day service or not. If they want proper Endurance, then increase the mileage!! This is them trying to prove a point. You can be out of the event because of a minor 'repairable' problem - not sure they've thought it through properly.

[KKS]

wrc2: split1 Lappi and Suninen at same time... finish time Lappi slower 8.4 sec!!!
Pressure is on!

[SubaruNorway]

Did Mikkelsen's had them? What I remember it was in Ogier's & Latvala's Polos.

I can only remember that Mikkelsen crashed on power stage, dont think he had injector problems without checking

[KKS]

It's all over. If Meeke lost 4 sec to "very fast" Ostberg at home soil... it's not a car "limitation" :(

[Oliverk]

Why is Meeke so sh*t?

[smsgrafica]

It's all over. If Meeke lost 4 sec to "very fast" Ostberg at home soil... it's not a car "limitation" :(

Don't worry, he just threw in the towel because he's penalized by his road position and is only interested in wins, so no sense to fight for a podium. Very professional...

[René]

The performance of the Citroën are disastrous this morning! It is true that, there is more to lose than, to win in these conditions. They can be in Test in the real conditions

[EightGear]

Well, that i20 R5 isn't really setting the world on fire yet..


"A transmission issue on the opening road section means @KevinAbbring and @sebmarshall have had to pull out from today’s stages."

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Must be a reason, he's not that slow...

No motivation if he cant fight at the front ? Wants to finish to add to experience looking to 2017 ?

[KKS]

Must be a reason, he's not that slow...

No motivation if he cant fight at the front ? Wants to finish to add to experience looking to 2017 ?
No motivation?
Fight for stage wins! It's quite good motivation...

[KKS]

SS10 for wrc2:

Split1:
Lappi +0.0
Suninen +0.1

Split2
Suninen +0.0
Lappi +0.2

It's a fight! :)

[AL14]

Tanak: "You need some proper hairy balls to be fast in that one. Maybe I was a bit chicken!"

:D :D

[AL14]

SS10 for wrc2:

Split1:
Lappi +0.0
Suninen +0.1

Split2
Suninen +0.0
Lappi +0.2

It's a fight! :)

If the rally was 5000km long he could close the gap :D

[smsgrafica]

No motivation if he cant fight at the front ? Wants to finish to add to experience looking to 2017 ?

That's what he said at SE...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke SS10:
'It was quite foggy, quite tricky and you don't want to risk it.We'll continue to drive and get experience.'
https://t.co/wfTc5IYCl8

[Oliverk]

Looks like we have another Ostberg in the field.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No motivation?
Fight for stage wins! It's quite good motivation...

He cant, that's his point.

[smsgrafica]

He cant, that's his point.

Where is his "I'm just driving to my best" attitude gone he showed when he was in better road position? Now that he's penalized, suddenly there's no sense in fighting? Now he can see what it's like driving without any chance to fight for victory...

[leighton323]

Well, that i20 R5 isn't really setting the world on fire yet..


"A transmission issue on the opening road section means @KevinAbbring and @sebmarshall have had to pull out from today’s stages."
This disappoints me, I hope Hyundai R5 programme can improve.. for the good of the sport as well.

[KKS]

Looks like we have another Ostberg in the field.
Face emotion tell more https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cv485NhWIAAWL6J.jpg

[dupanton]

Well, that i20 R5 isn't really setting the world on fire yet..


"A transmission issue on the opening road section means @KevinAbbring and @sebmarshall have had to pull out from today’s stages."

They think it might have suffered from trying to get out of the ditch yesterday.

[br21]

They think it might have suffered from trying to get out of the ditch yesterday.

that's why you have superrally possibilities - check the clutch, etc, etc...
strange such things happen in such big team...

[raybak]

Meeke had two punctures already. So driving to get thru.

Ray

[er88]

Looks like we have another Ostberg in the field.
Hmm i don't remember Ostberg winning two rallies out of 7 starts this season. Or pushing Ogier hard in a battle for the lead on the Monte, or generally being the 2nd quickest driver in Sweden and Corsica too...

He's struggled on the gravel in Spain and been off the pace so far in Wales which will be frustrating for him on his home event, so it's somewhat understandable he might be having a moan or saying stupid things at the stage ends. Meeke probably thought he might have had a chance of fighting for the win before the event started, so i can see why he's pissed off. He also doesn't have driver or manufacturer points to think about either which is worth remembering, so ofcourse he's going to lose a bit of motivation knowing he can't do better than 5th in current circumstances.


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[EstWRC]

Meeke just has lost something in the last rallies. Absolutely different guy than in Portugal and Finland

[hari]

What happened to Abbring? Did restart today, but never started into the stage.

[hari]

Found the answer - Hyundai Motorsport: A transmission issue on the opening road section means @KevinAbbring and @sebmarshall have had to pull out from today’s stages.

What a disaster

[smsgrafica]

Meeke just has lost something in the last rallies. Absolutely different guy than in Portugal and Finland

I'll be very mean: Road position! :P

[Fast Eddie WRC]

If Meeke HAD to fight he would... like here last year when he ensured the points for Citroen to beat Hyundai in the Manufacturers Championship.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WRC.com
Meeke had two slow punctures and has used all six of his soft compound Michelin tyres. He has five more stages to complete before the end of the day with no opportunity to take onboard additional rubber.

[er88]

Meeke just has lost something in the last rallies. Absolutely different guy than in Portugal and Finland
What so because he got caught in a thunderstorm in Spain and is having a bit of an off rally in Wales he's a different guy?

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[AL14]

I would not be so result-oriented with Meeke. He is just not having a good weekend. It happens to everyone unless they are called Sebastien.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Some people are so fickle... Meeke is great when he's taking the wins and fighting with Ogier... but a soon as he's not, he's a different guy, or another Ostberg...

Support him if you are a fan.

[raybak]

All these people bagging Meeke, can't you get the picture that he only has the tyres on the car to finish the day. One puncture and he is out. I would drive safely in this situation and go for the finish. Have been in a similar situation myself with 2 punctures early in a rally with no service. Backed off and went for points and experience rather than a podium.

Yes I have done some rallies, over 300 and still counting so I do know a little bit about this sport.

Ray

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Looks like another stage win for Tanak ! :)

[raybak]

Looks like another stage win for Tanak ! :)

I don't think he will have enough stages to peg the difference back although with Sunday road position will make a huge difference I wreckon.

Ray

[smsgrafica]

http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/uploads/vw_pics/vw-20161028-6947-low-2016-WRC-12-HEM2-9526n.jpg

[KKS]

Half time that Suninen gat over Lappi on first 3 stages today (-12.4) - he lose at SS12 (+5.7)
Lappi fights back.

[Negaiss]

Hope first spit of Mikkelsen ir actualy truth.

[KKS]

Some noisy noise in a transmission have an effect?

[Augury]

Another great stage for Tänak. Pity about that puncture yesterday, would've had a proper battle today.

[dimviii]

what do you mean ''by forums standards''?

up?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

MeekeSS13 (21.12Km) 12:30.2

'Zero traction no grip at all...I'll never be as slow at WalesRallyGB I can assure you that !' https://t.co/HxQuYG4awf

[stefanvv]

All these people bagging Meeke, can't you get the picture that he only has the tyres on the car to finish the day. One puncture and he is out. I would drive safely in this situation and go for the finish. Have been in a similar situation myself with 2 punctures early in a rally with no service. Backed off and went for points and experience rather than a podium.

Yes I have done some rallies, over 300 and still counting so I do know a little bit about this sport.

Ray

The fact he had 2 punctures speaks for itself - he is trying.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak flying again... those DMacks are special here in GB.

[dimviii]

wtf?

at 12:49 - SS14: Østberg –
Drama for the Norwegian and his co-driver, Ole Floene. "It's okay. It's very slippery and I have absolutely no grip. I think Ole has been bitten by a snake, as well."

[KKS]

wtf?
they are norwegians :)

[stefanvv]

up?

up, what? Just my impression by comments from Ogier losing time being first on the road at previous rallies and Meeke's comments on this - they are the same. It's not very hard.

[dimviii]

up, what? Just my impression by comments from Ogier losing time being first on the road at previous rallies and Meeke's comments on this - they are the same. It's not very hard.

your impression is stupid.
Next time you will insult plenty of forums members with irony,its better to have the balls and say straight what you want.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

wtf?

at 12:49 - SS14: Østberg –
Drama for the Norwegian and his co-driver, Ole Floene. " I think Ole has been bitten by a snake, as well."

There are adders in Wales.

[stefanvv]

Oh dear me. Let's do it one last time:


your impression is stupid.

May be it is, now You're insulting me I guess. Never mind, I don't take it.


Next time you will insult plenty of forums members

Not my intention.


with irony

No it isn't


its better to have the balls and say straight what you want.

Already did in the original post, case over.

If You are feeling insulted, not my problem, I'm just saying what I think it's the reality.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

DMACK Tyres ‏@DMACK_Tyres 42s42 seconds ago
SS15 Road position helping Seb Ogier on this stage, but @OttTanak holds a strong second place.

[BigWorm]

Meeke is just doing this rally because he got the nod to do it, he was never going to set pace at this rally with his road position anyway. I think he's doing pretty well in 5th and that's good for 2017.

[Raini]

Where are You guys?, Ott is here already!
https://www.upload.ee/image/6295972/wrc-rally-sardinia-2014-malcolm-wilson-m-sport.jpg

[Rally Power]

Some people are so fickle... Meeke is great when he's taking the wins and fighting with Ogier... but a soon as he's not, he's a different guy, or another Ostberg...Support him if you are a fan.

You’re right. Neither Meeke should be criticized on this rally and neither Ogier on all the others events he was undermined by a stupid rule created to slow him down.

Let’s hope FIA will get a sensible solution for the start order issue, in order to see all these great drivers focused on what really matters: being fast.

Btw, what happened to Pryce? He was doing nice times in a close battle with Aansen for 5th (and best non Skoda), but now he’s over 3m behind.

[dimviii]

Btw, what happened to Pryce? He was doing nice times in a close battle with Aansen for 5th (and best non Skoda), but now he’s over 3m behind.

Sat 14:20 - SS15: WRC 2 Pryce –
The Welshman has dropped time this afternoon after driving with no power steering for the last three stages. He's tried to fix it but to no avail. He remains sixth overall.

[KKS]

"@Kris (https://twitter.com/kris) Meeke receiving a speeding ticket !!!"
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cv8G60tW8AAXFbN.jpg

:D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

‏@Machynlleth_NPT
Machynlleth Police having an arresting time with Kris Meeke (world professional rally driver)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cv8FDkNWIAQJgcG.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Still muddy in parts today, especially down the order..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cv8Y43gXYAA3oMu.jpg:large