40º Rally Islas Canarias El Corte Inglés (GRAN CANARIA)

[106 sport]

Due to the postponement of Rally of Liepaja, Rally Islas Canarias El Corte Inglés will be the first round of ERC 2016.

It is expected that we will enjoy of a great entry list in the beautiful island of Gran Canaria.


http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=202:the-40th-rally-islas-canarias-el-corte-ingles-reveals-its-itinerary&catid=84&Itemid=473&lang=en

The 40th Rally Islas Canarias ‘El Corte Inglés’ reveals the itinerary for its next edition. The organization is waiting to know, together with Las Palmas de Gran Canaria town hall , which will be the final itinerary for the super special stage.

Though we are still waiting to know which will be the final place for the super special stage ‘Ciudad de Las Palmas’, the 40th Rally Islas Canarias ‘El Corte Inglés’ has already its itinerary. With the publication in the official website, the countdown starts. From today, the period to enter is open.

On Thursday 10 March, in the morning, there will be action in a special stage that is well-known for the local fans. The qualifying stage will make the start order for the ERC1 and ERC2 teams. The QS will run in Cenobio de Valerón (3,57 km).


On Friday morning the competition is going to start with the longest stage in this edition. ‘Moya’, with 24,73 km, will be the first challenge for the teams in the second rally of the season in the FIA European Rally Championship. Its start will be at 10:48 h y 15:33 h and, over its tarmac, the teams will need to do their best. The Rally will carry on with ‘Tejeda’. With 15,01 km (at 11:42 h and 16:27 h) adds more technical stages to this edition. The program for the first leg add the 14,5 km of ‘Santa Lucía’ stage (12:35 h and 17:20 h). Historic road that must be in the 40th edition of Rally Islas Canarias ‘El Corte Inglés’.

The second leg, on Saturday 12 March, will start with another important stage, ‘Ingenio’, with 22,84 km. According to distance will be one of the most important stages in this edition. The second stage will be ‘Gáldar’ (10:11 h y 14:43 h) and, its 13,97 km, promise us exciting moments. The loop closes with the 15,45 km of ‘Valleseco’ stage (10:37 h y 15:09 h).




http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=622&lang=en

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr1BNbxkMQ6pSt5NVC9_hgQ

http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/pdf2016/Itinerary.pdf

[pucky54]

Big shame is, that there is no ceremonial start!?!?

[106 sport]

https://www.facebook.com/Rally-Islas-Canarias-El-Corte-Ingl%C3%A9s-ERC-Fanpage-1628300890735859/?fref=photo


El ya experimentado piloto argentino Juan Carlos Alonso, después de años anteriores haber sido un asiduo al WRC en la categoría WRC2 y (producción), esta temporada ha decidido desembarcar en el FIA ERC, con un Mitsubishi Lancer EVO X del equipo español RMC Motorsport.


Zoltan Bessenyey ( Zoltan Bessenyey racing driver ) ha confirmado que comenzará su andadura en el FIA ERC en el Rally Islas Canarias a bordo de su Renault Clio R3T, con el objetivo de luchar por la categoría ERC3.

[Mirek]

How about to write in English? It's English forum after all.

[106 sport]

How about to write in English? It's English forum after all.

Uppsss...Sorry.

The experienced Argentine driver Juan Carlos Alonso, after previous years have been a regular at WRC category WRC2 and (production), this season has decided to disembark in the FIA ERC, with a Mitsubishi Lancer EVO X RMC Motorsport Spanish team.

Zoltan Bessenyey (Zoltan Bessenyey racing driver) has confirmed it will begin its journey in the FIA ERC Rally Canary Islands aboard his Renault Clio R3T, with the aim of fighting for ERC3 category.

[RICARDO75]

From Rally Islas Canarias El Corte Inglés facebook page:

Hermen Kobus - Skoda Fabia R5
Gilbert Bannout - Ford Fiesta R5
Dávid Botka - Citroën DS3 R5
Federico Della Casa - Citroën DS3 R5
Giacomo Costenaro - Peugeot 208 T16
Giuseppe Scriva - Peugeot 208 T16
Tibor Erdi - Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X
Juan Carlos Alonso - Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X
Édgar Vigo - Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X
Carlos Padilla - Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX
Wojciech Chuchała - Subaru Impreza STI
Zoltan Bessenyey - Renault Clio R3T
Manuel Mora Aguirre - Ford Fiesta R2T
Roberto Blach Jr. - Peugeot 208 R2

[106 sport]

https://www.facebook.com/Rally-Islas-Canarias-El-Corte-Ingl%C3%A9s-ERC-Fanpage-1628300890735859/?fref=photo

Today we have a great new.
We have been in contact with the fast Lebaneses driver Gilbert Bannout for some weeks. We are happy to announce that he is going to take part in the 40th Rally Islas Canarias.

The runner up driver at Lebanese Rally Championship 2013 is going to do some test before the rally to decide what car will he use for the first meeting of the ERC season. As Bannout has told us, he is very excited to come to the ERC spanish rally. He really like the diversity of the stages and the environment of the island.

[TheFlyingTuga]

Gilbert Bannout it's not a Ford Fiesta R5 as far as I know. I cannot talk about the car right now, but the things start to go into planning last Spetember. Really excited for my friend Gillo :)

[106 sport]

Gilbert Bannout it's not a Ford Fiesta R5 as far as I know. I cannot talk about the car right now, but the things start to go into planning last Spetember. Really excited for my friend Gillo :)

And then, Is it another R5?

[106 sport]

From Rally Islas Canarias El Corte Inglés facebook page:

Hermen Kobus - Skoda Fabia R5
Gilbert Bannout - Ford Fiesta R5
Dávid Botka - Citroën DS3 R5
Federico Della Casa - Citroën DS3 R5
Giacomo Costenaro - Peugeot 208 T16
Giuseppe Scriva - Peugeot 208 T16
Tibor Erdi - Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X
Juan Carlos Alonso - Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X
Édgar Vigo - Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X
Carlos Padilla - Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX
Wojciech Chuchała - Subaru Impreza STI
Zoltan Bessenyey - Renault Clio R3T
Manuel Mora Aguirre - Ford Fiesta R2T
Roberto Blach Jr. - Peugeot 208 R2


By the way, is there any news about Ricardo Moura participation in the ERC?

[RICARDO75]

Not yet

[106 sport]

Not yet

Thanks. And Bernardo Sousa?

[TheFlyingTuga]

And then, Is it another R5?


Allways a R5. But probably from another manufacter. Gillo will see if he likes the ERC, and could do one more if he likes it. For know, as AFAIK it's R5 for Canarias and Lebanon MERC rally and a WRC for a French tarmac round ;)

[RICARDO75]

Juan Carlos Aguado - Ford Fiesta R5
Fran Cima - Renault Clio R3T

[106 sport]

Román Odlozilik Ford Fiesta R5

Lukasz Habaj Peugeot 208 R2
Szabolcs Várkonyi Peugeot 208 R2
Tomasz Gryc Peugeot 208 R2


They are already registered.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rally-Islas-Canarias-El-Corte-Ingl%C3%A9s/475610692503989

[mousti]

Is Odlozilik doing a ERC campaign? Entered Liepaja aswell.

[PLuto]

Is Odlozilik doing a ERC campaign? Entered Liepaja aswell.

Season starts in Czech in April. So there is time to do some events abroad. Actually there is no plan to do any ERC event after Canarias (except Barum, of course). But we will see...

[106 sport]

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rally-Islas-Canarias-El-Corte-Ingl%C3%A9s/475610692503989

Very good rythm in the entry period for the 40th edition of the Rally Islas Canarias ‘El Corte Inglés’. Lebanese driver, Gilbert Bannout, will be in Gran Canaria between 10th and 12th of March with his Citroën R5, while with a Group N Subaru Impreza is going to be the official driver of ‘Subaru Poland Rally Team’, Wojciech Chuchala. Today, local driver Nelson Climent has confirmed his participation with a Peugeot 208 R2.

[106 sport]

Rumours in Gran Canaria about a possible participation of Mads Otsberg with a Fiesta R5

[PLuto]

According to last informations, there will be another unexpected foreign driver with R5 who should be fast enough to fight for win ;)

[mousti]

According to last informations, there will be another unexpected foreign driver with R5 who should be fast enough to fight for win ;)

Only Canarias or maybe other ERC outings too?

[106 sport]

According to last informations, there will be another unexpected foreign driver with R5 who should be fast enough to fight for win ;)

Interesting. We have to wait news jeje...

[RS]

According to last informations, there will be another unexpected foreign driver with R5 who should be fast enough to fight for win ;)

Hmm, if Kajto is going, then to be able to fight for the win this driver must be good.

Basso?

[dimviii]

Luky?

[Mirek]

Bouffier?

[RICARDO75]

Loeb - Peugeot :D

[Andre Oliveira]

I hope Ricardo Moura start there too.

[106 sport]

I hope Ricardo Moura start there too.

and Bernardo Sousa?

[sete]

i heard rumours about Ostberg with Fiesta R5

[PLuto]

and Bernardo Sousa?

Sousa is not fast enough to fight for win in Canarias ;)

[Andre Oliveira]

Bernardo is fast. Need mental trainning to be strong.

Moura is much faster in gravel than in tarmac but he learn very fast.

[polo10]

Sousa is not fast enough to fight for win in Canarias ;)
In Azores he was...

[PLuto]

In Azores he was...

Azores is not Canarias ;) And RRC cars are not allowed now...

[Reis Eduardo]

My bet goes to a Czech or Polish pilot, both have raced in the ERC and the Canary Islands

[RS]

Kubica or Kopecky?

Maybe Pluto can tell us if the name has been mentioned already, even if not by whom?

[106 sport]

Hirvonen ???

[Jarek Z]

My bet goes to a Czech or Polish pilot, both have raced in the ERC and the Canary Islands

Apart from Kajto, the only Polish driver that can fight for top positions on the Canary Islands is Robert Kubica. But I haven't heard about such plans. Maybe on vacation? Robert has plenty of time now...

[PLuto]

I dont think that there is at least a small chance to see Kopecky or Kubica on Canarias...

[Jarek Z]

Is it Alexey Lukyanuk?
https://www.facebook.com/475610692503989/photos/a.477190179012707.122716.475610692503989/1111586595573059/?type=3&theater

[RS]

Is it Alexey Lukyanuk?
https://www.facebook.com/475610692503989/photos/a.477190179012707.122716.475610692503989/1111586595573059/?type=3&theater

I kind of presumed Lukyanuk would be there anyway and that Pluto's mystery guest would be more of a surprise.

[RICARDO75]

Luyanuk is in but he's not the surprise driver

[Jarek Z]

Hmm, if Kajto is going, then to be able to fight for the win this driver must be good.

Basso?

Hopes are all that Basso has now :(
https://www.fiaerc.com/basso-hopes-for-erc-return/

[RS]

Hopes are all that Basso has now :(
https://www.fiaerc.com/basso-hopes-for-erc-return/

Sounds like a strong hint something might happen.

Basso is probably one of the drivers whose career has most underperformed his talent.

[Andre Oliveira]

Please Giandomenico :)

Btw, Østbgerg: @eWRCresults @FIAERC @RIslasCanarias @rafaleonortega we are looking into it, but nothing is confirmed yet

[RS]

It would be a good bit of tarmac training for Mads..

[TheFlyingTuga]

Gilbert Banout presented his ivery for the ERC Isla Canárias

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/t31.0-8/12747309_1043116762396708_5923689917609844129_o.jp g

[PLuto]

Hopes are all that Basso has now :(
https://www.fiaerc.com/basso-hopes-for-erc-return/

There were some rumours that he should do some ERC rounds with his LPG car, but after confirming whole season in CIR I think that his chances are lower...

[mousti]

Gilbert Banout presented his ivery for the ERC Isla Canárias

[IMG]

Car from J-Motorsport that will be then.

[106 sport]

Car from J-Motorsport that will be then.

Banout is going to participate with D-max racing

[Munkvy]

It would be a good bit of tarmac training for Mads..
Unfortunately for Mads practice won't improve his ability to drive fast enough on tarmac.

Sure it would be good to benchmark a WRC driver against the ERC crews, but realistically practice isn't what he needs to get faster on tarmac, I believe he needs a fundamental re-write of his approach to tarmac. He is simply not that competitive in my opinion (which is not the end of the world, he still gets to race in the WRC, which is more than I ever will do!).

[M5]

It would be a good bit of tarmac training for Mads..

Maybe not Ogier speed, but training with the right coach will make him faster, and faster.

[106 sport]

According to last informations, there will be another unexpected foreign driver with R5 who should be fast enough to fight for win ;)

We have been waiting for three days. I think that we deserve some name or clues jeje...

[liposh]

Just a short offtopic question. Does spanish "jeje" mean laugh ? With pronunciation like Don Juan?

[106 sport]

Just a short offtopic question. Does spanish "jeje" mean laugh ? With pronunciation like Don Juan?

Yes. It is like "ja, ja..."

[AL14]

We have been waiting for three days. I think that we deserve some name or clues jeje...
Wasn'it Ostberg?

[106 sport]

Wasn'it Ostberg?

No. Looks like is Ostberg and another one...

[Jarek Z]

According to this piece of news
http://rajdy.autoklub.pl/news/monzon-odkurzyl-mini,66226
Luis Monzon is going to drive Mini on Rally Islas Canarias. He won this rally three times in the past.

[Jarek Z]

Argentinian driver Juan Carlos Alonso revealed his car's livery for Rally Islas Canarias.

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xal1/t31.0-8/12747450_1731139100452037_5599090249770771889_o.jp g

[Jarek Z]

Suzuki Sport are preparing their Swift Super 1600 for Rally Islas Canarias:
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/12742105_1732894980276449_8582518759686133109_n.jp g?oh=ece538d76d35ea67b021439ca2ce7b5b&oe=57702FC5

[Jarek Z]

Spanish driver Ivan Ares, who is going to drive Ford Fiesta R5 on the Canary Islands:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CblTD4uUYAAgVlK.jpg

... has just crashed his car in the Rallysprint de la Mencía:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbqW7C_VIAEbt1O.jpg

[Jarek Z]

Hmmm... Is Rally Islas Canarias a winter event?
https://www.facebook.com/1628300890735859/photos/pcb.1732460823653198/1732460283653252/?type=3&theater

[NoFear85]

Slovenian driver Aleks Humar, will start in Rally Islas Canarias with 208 R2.

[PLuto]

According to last informations, there will be another unexpected foreign driver with R5 who should be fast enough to fight for win ;)

Latest informations regarding start of this "hidden driver" are not so much positive :(

[Reis Eduardo]

Who was this "hidden driver" ?:confused:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ostberg entry confirmed. :)

[Eli]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/122918 official for Ostberg

[Munkvy]

Hopefully this helps bring some exposure to the ERC, which would be nice. Ostberg may struggle a tad though.

[Sulland]

This is what Mads needs, practice. He needs to start trusting that the rubber will hold him, and do better asphalt lines.

Lets see what level in ERC he is, but I am not guessing podium.
Will he be using his own car, or one from MSport?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

On Ostberg's last tarmac rally (WRC Spain) he improved as the event went on setting some decent times. He finished 4th and ahead of team-mate Meeke.

I think he still has the chance to improve like Latvala did and driving this event wont do any harm.

[pucky54]

This is what Mads needs, practice. He needs to start trusting that the rubber will hold him, and do better asphalt lines.

Lets see what level in ERC he is, but I am not guessing podium.
Will he be using his own car, or one from MSport?

He will use a car from RMC

[RS]

In IRC days I don't think Mads would have stood a chance here. Now he should be aiming for at least a podium, and possibly a win depending on what the entry list looks like.

[Jarek Z]

Lets see what level in ERC he is, but I am not guessing podium.

Are you saying that Ostberg is going to be outside of the top 3? But who is going to be faster than a current WRC factory driver?

[PLuto]

It is very difficult to predict before the start. But actually fastest drivers in ERC - Kajto and Lucas - are also better on gravel than tarmac. If there will not be Consani on start of the event, there will be no real tarmac specialist on the start (if I am talking about ERC regulars, I am not counting locals (and their speed with new cars is also very difficult to predict).

Another advantage for Mads is, that during last three months he has done hundreds of kms of tests and did two difficult rallies, so he is in racing rhythm. On the other side, rest of the other competitors will be happy, if they will do few kilometres on the test before race...

[Rasantes]

Luis Monzón confirmed in a DS3 R5(Delta Rally) and Robert Consani in a 208 T16 R5(Delta Rally).

[Simmi]

Are you saying that Ostberg is going to be outside of the top 3? But who is going to be faster than a current WRC factory driver?

Have to admit I was thinking the same thing? A guy with almost 100 WRC starts and years of being a works driver should not be getting beaten by anyone in the current ERC - unless maybe it's a Kopecky or Loix on home ground.

[RS]

Have to admit I was thinking the same thing? A guy with almost 100 WRC starts and years of being a works driver should not be getting beaten by anyone in the current ERC - unless maybe it's a Kopecky or Loix on home ground.

I am absolutely confident Mads would not be able to beat either of the two you mention, but it doesn't seem he will have that kind of opposition on Canarias, unless Pluto's mystery guest turns up.

[dupanton]

I'm convinced Ostberg will win (if he doesn't have any bad luck).

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Consani's 208T16

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cb7EgEFXIAYbXpq.jpg:large

BTW, why has he swapped from the DS3 he ran last year ?

[itix]

Because the 208 is better looking ;)
(no seriously, not a clue... not my kind of livery)

[PLuto]

Consani's usual DS3 R5 will drive Luis Monzon

[Munkvy]

Have to admit I was thinking the same thing? A guy with almost 100 WRC starts and years of being a works driver should not be getting beaten by anyone in the current ERC - unless maybe it's a Kopecky or Loix on home ground.

Yet we saw the example of Tanak, who is clearly faster than Mads getting thoroughly beaten at Barum in 2014... Sure he was on DMack tyres, but not a single stage win and only 7th overall, behind several S2000's while driving an R5. Sure there is always specific things that hurt an overall drive, but a WRC driver should surely be able to write good notes for an event they haven't been to before and then drive to them, so should at least perform well on some stages.

[Simmi]

Yet we saw the example of Tanak, who is clearly faster than Mads getting thoroughly beaten at Barum in 2014... Sure he was on DMack tyres, but not a single stage win and only 7th overall, behind several S2000's while driving an R5. Sure there is always specific things that hurt an overall drive, but a WRC driver should surely be able to write good notes for an event they haven't been to before and then drive to them, so should at least perform well on some stages.

I get what you're saying but I completely disagree that Tanak is clearly faster than Mads. It seems like a couple of rallies from Ott (e.g. Poland) have just blinded people to the full picture.

If you read his stage-end comments he was having quite a few issues on that rally. Plus the calibre of the championship was also completely different just a few short years ago. The works teams have now gone.

[Jarek Z]

A guy with almost 100 WRC starts and years of being a works driver should not be getting beaten by anyone in the current ERC - unless maybe it's a Kopecky or Loix on home ground.

Exactly. Or some crazy Italian tarmac specialist, like Andreucci, Basso or Rossetti, but they are not going to be there.
Kajto will not be faster than Ostberg for sure. Polish rally drivers have never been fast on Canary Islands. The stages there are completely different than Polish roads. Kubica is an exception of course, but he is a racing driver, so such stages suit him.
I expect Ostberg in the top 3.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mads will be using this event as tarmac practice so wont want to take big risks and crash out early on.

I think he will improve as it goes along but wont get involved in any battles for places.

[PLuto]

94 crews entered to Rally Islas Canarias, 18x R5 - HERE (http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/pdf2016/Lista_Provisional.pdf)

[Rally Power]

55 in ERC field. The rest are Spanish and Canarian series competitors. Still, a pretty decent entry list, with Ostberg name being a nice addition!

Btw, like Ostberg said to Autosport, his entry is locally supported (I believe Kankkunen, Auriol and some other WRC guys also have been in Canarias paid by organizers), not an MSport official participation. He'll use a 2015 spec car, run by spanish team RMC. Probably MSport will get him the latest evolutions. Sadly there's no top french or italian tarmac specialist to give Ostberg a proper fight, but it'll be nice to see if Monzon still is damn fast in his backyard and how much Katjo can improve in Canarias roads!

[RS]

94 crews entered to Rally Islas Canarias, 18x R5 - HERE (http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/pdf2016/Lista_Provisional.pdf)

Can you tell us now who the mystery man was?

[Luis Pacheco]

Can you tell us now who the mystery man was?

Bouffier.

[Jarek Z]

Btw, like Ostberg said to Autosport, his entry is locally supported (I believe Kankkunen, Auriol and some other WRC guys also have been in Canarias paid by organizers)

Yes, the organizers of this rally have been famous for inviting many stars and supporting their entries. It's nice to see they are continuing this tradition.
In this way they supported Didier Auriol...

http://www.atodomotor.com/contenidos/noticias/2208/FinalIc2.jpg

[Jarek Z]

Juha Kankkunen...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-r5aZj96kJ30/TdC1Mke2KUI/AAAAAAAAAeE/qw2fZa2Ticc/s1600/GT-FOUR+ST205+05.jpg

[Jarek Z]

and Enrico Bertone.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4jthBVrGXu0/TEagXLvVKHI/AAAAAAAAARA/XUxl59-7QPE/s1600/1996_ElCorteIngles_Bertone+1.JPG

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Btw, like Ostberg said to Autosport, his entry is locally supported (I believe Kankkunen, Auriol and some other WRC guys also have been in Canarias paid by organizers), not an MSport official participation. He'll use a 2015 spec car, run by spanish team RMC. Probably MSport will get him the latest evolutions. Sadly there's no top french or italian tarmac specialist to give Ostberg a proper fight, but it'll be nice to see if Monzon still is damn fast in his backyard and how much Katjo can improve in Canarias roads!

So Ostberg is only here due to the honour of being an invited WRC guest and not specifically for tarmac practice...

"We met for coffee and discuss running the rally and we have been in touch ever since. Finally, we get together and have organized everything for me with a good patronage of Gran Canaria "said Ostberg.

Ostberg will be managed by the Spanish team RMC and has admitted that the rally will be a combination of fun and serious work.

"Yes, it's a little of both. Give me the opportunity to gain some practical experience on asphalt. It will also be an opportunity to have a good time in a nice holiday location , so it will be a good mix, "said the Norwegian.

[Jarek Z]

Tibor Erdi is ready for the trip to Canary Islands.

https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xal1/v/t1.0-9/12790856_1687863038153866_1468993230851786014_n.jp g?oh=65d705796898bee97c27371108a15c1a&oe=572667A4

[Ralph-Mario]

http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/pdf2016/Lista_Provisional.pdf

[Jarek Z]

David Botka is testing his car...

https://scontent.fwaw3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/v/l/t1.0-9/12742505_1733875760178371_3913981598488583574_n.jp g?oh=a2b14ffa9076ef6704b04b7983e98d41&oe=57709A18

[Jarek Z]

Giacomo Costenaro's car...

https://scontent.fwaw3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/12661930_1726361634263117_4486429294058552167_n.jp g?oh=12a1c80c8d03712edd9a628cc8d9112a&oe=5750ABEC

[Jarek Z]

And the livery of Ivan Ares' car:
https://scontent.fwaw3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12801342_1734991796733434_7981496073737290773_n.jp g?oh=768a83dbe01d8ec97040790f6d30a103&oe=5758C3A9

[Jarek Z]

Entry list with starting numbers has been published:
http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/pdf2016/LISTA_DE_INSCRITOS_FIA.pdf

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cc8DHxwW4AAwTnS.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cc8DKGMXIAAaT5E.jpg

[Fly]

According to the pickems, Ostberg is the favorite.
Ostberg 16 votes as a winner
Kajto 11 votes
Monzon 1 vote

[dimviii]

Μads fiesta

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cc9msy5W4AAkoe7.jpg:large

[Jarek Z]

Μads fiesta

That's what you get when you sleep in the right hotel! :)
https://www.fiaerc.com/erc-qa-mads-ostberg/

[Jarek Z]

According to the pickems, Ostberg is the favorite.
Ostberg 16 votes as a winner
Kajto 11 votes
Monzon 1 vote

Surprisingly few people believe in Monzon, I have to say.

In the meantime, Kajto is testing his car on a racing track...

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/12814334_10153337011076960_6631175436509970124_n.j pg?oh=3e3c0fdc00a4e59c570c5926c2689dd1&oe=575586BE

Videos:
http://rajdy.autoklub.pl/news/mistrzowie-europy-testowali-na-torze,66525

[dimviii]

That's what you get when you sleep in the right hotel! :)
https://www.fiaerc.com/erc-qa-mads-ostberg/

lol

What are your expectations in terms of a result?
“It’s really hard to say: there are so many unknown factors. I’m not thinking too much about that: my aim is just to enjoy the rally and build up my experience on asphalt. It’s always useful to have time in a rally car, especially as this year I have a new co-driver, so it’s great for us to have this opportunity: that’s the main thing. A big thank you to everyone who made it possible.”

[Mirek]

Surprisingly few people believe in Monzon, I have to say.

Why? What did he achieve in IRC/ERC editions of Canarias? He is also getting older. Personally I wouldn't bet on him either.

[Jarek Z]

Why? What did he achieve in IRC/ERC editions of Canarias? He is also getting older. Personally I wouldn't bet on him either.

Maybe you are right. I know that he won this rally 3 times in the past and is former Spanish champion, but I didn't know he has lost his speed...

[Luis Pacheco]

Tests.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA-Baw0S85Q

[106 sport]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx6sr9yZkP8

Yesterday tests.

[liposh]

Tests.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA-Baw0S85Q

If anybody knows the author of this video please tell him the ads in the beginning and on the bottom side during the video are really annoying. I think only capslock title "FATAL CRASH" on youtube is missing to have this "artwork" complete :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

According to the pickems, Ostberg is the favorite.
Ostberg 16 votes as a winner
Kajto 11 votes
Monzon 1 vote

So all these people didnt read what Mads said about only being here for some fun and a bit of a holiday..

Hope they dont all jump on the bandwagon and start calling him slow if he doesnt win.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mads car being prepped

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdDOv2GWwAI5aX3.jpg:large

[dimviii]

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/t31.0-8/11872168_587994411359811_2334375556365115599_o.jpg
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/12828453_587994174693168_7237531810655316616_o.jpg
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/t31.0-8/12819352_587994084693177_408447795643042125_o.jpg
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12801341_970899376323451_8079985232159123413_n.jpg ?oh=4e50b1b78f61e3182b2915c3e0d26767&oe=57553D60
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/v/t1.0-9/12799053_970896342990421_4650044903523147731_n.jpg ?oh=640b8f601489a4ec0a68787b3294f64d&oe=575EE219

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Another PET video

https://youtu.be/gwOorB0QRp4

[Jarek Z]

Interesting look at the history of this rally. Carlos Sainz is the most succesful driver on the Spanish island - he won this event 5 times...

Number of wins:
5: Carlos Sainz (1985-86-87-88-89)
4: Jesus Puras (1997-99-00-02)
3: Jan Kopecky (2010-12-13)
3: Luis Monzón (1994-04-07)
2: Miguel Fuster (2006-15)
2: Medardo Pérez (1977-78)
2: Marc Etchebers (1979-80)
2: Eugenio Ortiz (1982-1983)
2: José María Ponce (1995-96)
2: Sergio Vallejo (2008-09)

[Jarek Z]

Janos Puskadi in action:

https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/t31.0-8/12792265_1125000324200200_2765532999384178426_o.jp g

[RS]

So all these people didnt read what Mads said about only being here for some fun and a bit of a holiday..

Hope they dont all jump on the bandwagon and start calling him slow if he doesnt win.

Of course he will try to win but it's good to get your excuses in early just in case..

Honestly, I expect him to fight for the win at the very least. If Kopecky was there, probably not.

[Jarek Z]

Official presentation of Ostberg's car:
https://www.facebook.com/116515765101103/photos/pcb.999062060179798/999060873513250/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/116515765101103/photos/pcb.999062060179798/999061060179898/?type=3&theater

[dimviii]

Mads Østberg ‏@MadsOstberg

Heavy rain, poor visibility, variation in temperature from bottom/top of the mountains. Tyre choice for @RIslasCanarias will be challenging!


https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/10380661_588615711297681_3276177644424293017_o.jpg
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/t31.0-8/12823288_588615297964389_7497186735612752307_o.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

get your excuses in early just in case..

I expect him to fight for the win at the very least.

I give up - people just have their own pre-conceived opinions no matter what Mads or anyone says about how they will approach and drive an event.

I dont know why any driver bothers giving interviews nowadays, or the press bother reporting them, when people dont take any notice of what is said and usually think the opposite...

[Jarek Z]

Mads Østberg ‏@MadsOstberg
Heavy rain, poor visibility, variation in temperature from bottom/top of the mountains. Tyre choice for @RIslasCanarias will be challenging!


I confirm this. Those rains have caused many problems already.

Says DANIEL DYMURSKI, co-driver for Wojtek Chuchala, Subaru Poland Rally Team:
I have to say, that I'm disappointed with the weather. I prepared myself a pair of shorts and now they will have to stay in my suitcase.

;)

http://www.sprt.pl/foto/2016/3/530-1457472011.jpg

[RS]

I give up - people just have their own pre-conceived opinions no matter what Mads or anyone says about how they will approach and drive an event.

I dont know why any driver bothers giving interviews nowadays, or the press bother reporting them, when people dont take any notice of what is said and usually think the opposite...

They usually give just pr speak anyway such as "For sure we will do our best but it won't be easy" bla bla..

[dimviii]

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12794410_431064107102983_9120165473567713470_n.jpg ?oh=a9a34223f1427357edf553f557c62302&oe=579420E9

[Sulland]

Is this one on any starting list, or will it run as 0 car?

[dimviii]

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xal1/t31.0-8/12819214_830900697036521_7516945501059190440_o.jpg

[PLuto]

Dont forget, last day to make pickems.

[Sulland]

Have Mads started his PET yet?

[Jarek Z]

Plan for Thursday:

The day’s activities on Gran Canaria begin with Free Practice for priority drivers at 09h00 local time, followed by the Qualifying Stage at 11h15.

After returning to Las Palmas, drivers will select their starting positions at 17h00 before the pre-event press conference takes place at 17h30.

[Jarek Z]

No surprises in the free practice. Ostberg fastest:
http://rajdy.autoklub.pl/news/trening-dla-ostberg,66591

[Jarek Z]

SS1 is cancelled. Unfortunately, tonight's super special stage though the streets of Las Palmas has had to be cancelled due to there being not enough lighting.

[dimviii]

why?^^

Verificaciones 40 Rallye Islas Canarias Trofeo Corte Ingles 2016

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.885832581529712.1073742276.369788256467483&type=3&pnref=story



Botka problems with pop off valve.

[Jarek Z]

why?^^

Not enough light! Strange, isn't it?

[br21]

Botka problems with pop off valve.


Strange, as looks with new spec pop-off in "normal" temperatures issues were solved in PSA cars.

[dimviii]

Strange, as looks with new spec pop-off in "normal" temperatures issues were solved in PSA cars.

i remember you wrote it,thats why i posted.Maybe not enough parts for all ds3 have sold?

FIA ERC ‏@FIAERC

Botka after QS : "Pop off valve problem for me" - 2:07.8 #FIAERC

[Luis Pacheco]

Where did you see a "SS" planned for this night, Jarek?

[dimviii]

Where did you see a "SS" planned for this night, Jarek?

at official erc twitter mate.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ostberg fastest on QS from Luky, then Kajto... all within 1 sec.

[Jarek Z]

Where did you see a "SS" planned for this night, Jarek?

In the first version of the time table at the official ERC website.

The second version of this time table has SS2 listed as the first stage:
https://www.fiaerc.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Rally-Islas-Canarias-itinerary-V2.pdf

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rally Islas Canarias El Corte Inglés Qualifying Stage times – top 15
1. Mads Østberg (NOR)/Ola Fløene (NOR) Ford Fiesta R5….2m00.977s
2. Alexey Lukyanuk (RUS)/Alexey Arnautov (RUS) Ford Fiesta R5….+0.189s
3. Kajetan Kajetanowicz (POL)/Jarosław Baran (POL) Ford Fiesta R5….+0.733s
4. Iván Ares (ESP)/Mario González Tomé (ESP) Ford Fiesta R5….+0.868s
5. Robert Consani (FRA)/Maxime Vilmot (FRA) Peugeot 208 T16….+1.206s
6. Hermen Kobus (NED)/Erik de Wild (NED) ŠKODA Fabia R5….+2.051s
7. Luis Monzón (ESP)/José Carlos Déniz (ESP) Citroën DS3 R5….+2.714s
8. Federico Della Casa (CHE)/Domenico Pozzi (ITA) Citroën DS3 R5….+3.444s
9. Antonín Tlusťák (CZE)/Ladislav Kučera (CZE) ŠKODA Fabia R5….+6.447s
10. Giacomo Costenaro (ITA)/Justin Bardini (ITA) Peugeot 208 T16….+6.574s
11. Dávid Botka (HUN)/Péter Szeles (HUN) Citroën DS3 R5….+6.844s
12. Jarosław Kołtun (POL)/Ireneusz Pleskot (POL) Ford Fiesta R5….+7.267s

[dimviii]

The stage action for the opening round of the FIA European Rally Championship will begin with SS2 of the Rally Islas Canarias El Corte Inglés.

The scheduled SS1, a city stage after the ceremonial start this evening, had to be dropped due to a technical issue concerning the lighting of the 2.20-kilometre stage, with safety and competitor safety being paramount.

Instead, the rally will get underway with the 24.73-kilometre Moya 1 stage on Friday morning: competitors being immediately thrust into the longest stage of the rally as the ultimate wake-up call. Starting at 11h21 in the morning, it’s likely to have mixed weather conditions as the drivers climb to the 1700-metre mark. Many experts define this as the most crucial and technical stage of the rally.

Before then, the drivers have an autograph session and ceremonial start in the centre of Las Palmas at 20h00 tonight, close to the service park, which is expected to attract an enthusiastic audience.

https://www.fiaerc.com/erc-stage-action-to-start-with-ss2-on-rally-islas-canarias/

[dimviii]

nice Mads photo

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdMBwpYW0AEYZUv.jpg

[dimviii]

Mads Østberg ‏@MadsOstberg

A small issue with pop-off valve on qualifying. Otherwise everything went perfect! Happy to be fastest car. Looking forward to the stages����

[RS]

Did Mads get the evo engine in the end?

[dimviii]

some nice passes at qualify
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHDHi7QK0Qk&feature=youtu.be



road positions for Friday

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdNB751XEAADSeP.jpg

[dimviii]

https://scontent.fath3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12795326_588980827927836_2093334759604123003_n.jpg ?oh=7fbd589b40aa511613cd2dedbf37c725&oe=574ED99B
https://scontent.fath3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12803167_588981991261053_7486557376648156616_n.jpg ?oh=0ec26fdee1a4f8980656eae5568e40ce&oe=579727A0
https://scontent.fath3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/v/t1.0-9/12799010_588981877927731_8979446338257780924_n.jpg ?oh=4e3a78ef358b54fc8393359157e8a13c&oe=57581603




https://youtu.be/FxjI6IG4KIs


https://youtu.be/iScYoyq2epo

[Sulland]

Why cancel Ss1, the cars have night lights, and night stages are used in many rallies.
Is this done for the drivers or the spectators safety?

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

The drivers have no guts..:p

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SD video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHDHi7QK0Qk&feature=youtu.be

[RS]

Nice words from Ostberg in the press conference: https://www.fiaerc.com/they-said-what-erc-drivers-at-the-pre-event-press-conference/

[Jarek Z]

Some good photos from Canary Islands:

Test sessions:
http://rajdy.autoklub.pl/gallery/show/id/1457511777?pg=1

Qualifications:
http://rajdy.autoklub.pl/gallery/show/id/1457647907?pg=1

[Mirek]

Why cancel Ss1, the cars have night lights, and night stages are used in many rallies.
Is this done for the drivers or the spectators safety?

For sure spectators. It's city stage and they are most likely afraid of crowd control in the darkness. I wouldn't run a city stage in complete darkness either. It's too big risk.

[b3637853]

The rally is about to start. Was there ever a website to follow splits in ERC rallies?

[Mirek]

There are no splits in ERC, at least no official ones.

[b3637853]

There are no splits in ERC, at least no official ones.

Thank you.
Last season I was under impression that the drivers have splits, beacuse their times were quite even on some long stages.And I think Kajto mentioned splits once or twice last season in after stage interviews.

[Dejan]

The rally is about to start. Was there ever a website to follow splits in ERC rallies?

http://online3.atodomotor.com/online/2016/islascanarias/intermedios.html

[b3637853]

http://online3.atodomotor.com/online/2016/islascanarias/intermedios.html

Awesome! Thanks

[Mirek]

Lukyanuk a lot faster than Ostberg and Kajto on split 1 :eek:

[Sch17]

Lukyanuk a lot faster than Ostberg and Kajto on split 1 :eek:

Also on the last split but at the end Ostberg +0.1 quicker:eek:

[tc10a]

Lukyanuk a lot faster than Ostberg and Kajto on split 1 :eek:

Soft tyres, but are now destroyed

[Mirek]

Different tyre strategy. Both options worked in different part of the stage and the result is same.

[EightGear]

No splits for Kobus?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Wow big difference on the splits but the same end result !

[tc10a]

Very bad Timing. Every second time has to be changed. Why but they even in such fantasy times? (like Kajtos 1st time and now Consanis..)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdQ8-_fW8AQFQJp.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kajto & Luky both think it was wrong tyre choice...

[Filip Giedo]

Almost 1.40 min + for Consani on ~25 km stage? It looks incredible....

It was corrected now. Consani 15:54.5 +20.3 to Ostberg.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Weather is playing havoc...

[Filip Giedo]

And live timing provide too much adrenaline ;)

[b3637853]

Almost 1.40 min + for Consani on ~25 km stage? It looks incredible....

It was corrected now. Consani 15:54.5 +20.3 to Ostberg.

Hood opened in Consani's car... shame, but his fault:) Anyway I think he can mix some times in top3. Good start for Ostberg and Kajto. Luky can loose some time due to tyre choice.

[mousti]

Lol at stage comments nobody did a perfect drive :D

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 5 met Tapatalk

[Jarek Z]

Very good stage time by Chuchala! He is much faster than most R5 cars!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS3 -

Kajto faster at Split 1 ...

Level with Mads Split 2.

Kajto finishes ahead, I think !

[Filip Giedo]

Kajto almost minute faster than Mads and Lucky. Another freak&weirdo from LT?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kajto -0.4s corrected

[Jarek Z]

Kajto fastest on SS3. But there is no reporter to collect drivers' comments at the finish line:

Unfortunately we do not have a reporter at the end of this stage as it is impossible to get to once the rally started. Sorrrrry!

[Jarek Z]

Hood opened in Consani's car... shame, but his fault :) Anyway I think he can mix some times in top3.

Consani is down in the 7th position on SS3. It seems he makes better stage times with an open boot ;)

http://www.autoklub.pl/media/201603/93142-consani.jpg

[AL14]

What a shame. The best motorsport of all times treated like garbage.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kajto pips Mads again.

[b3637853]

Kajto pips Mads again.

Yeah, but Kajto was even up 3.6 on second split, but only 0.7 in the end.

[Mariusz]

I think Kajto had softer tires than Mads.

[Sulland]

Good start of the rally by Østberg.
Valuable training for him on asphalt.

[Simmi]

Good start of the rally by Østberg.
Valuable training for him on asphalt.

Lots of talk about 'asphalt training' for Mads. It's not his best surface but during his career he's had a massive amount of tarmac mileage - in rallies and in testing.

But I guess it sounds better to say you're getting in extra tarmac practice than the fact you're being paid to be there.

[Jarek Z]

Comments after SS4:
Wojciech CHUCHALA (SUBARU):
"We are doing a good job, I think we ruin the tyres. But we are happy with that. Mainly 5th gear is my favourite!"

:D

[Mirek]

So far very good rally for Polish colors. Polish flags high on the leaderboard in all major classifications (overall, production, 2WD).

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Lots of talk about 'asphalt training' for Mads. It's not his best surface but during his career he's had a massive amount of tarmac mileage - in rallies and in testing.

But I guess it sounds better to say you're getting in extra tarmac practice than the fact you're being paid to be there.

Mads has been quite clear how he came to be here.

[Simmi]

Mads has been quite clear how he came to be here.

This is true.

[b3637853]

So far very good rally for Polish colors. Polish flags high on the leaderboard in all major classifications (overall, production, 2WD).

Quite a big polish crew on Canaries. Three Polish Champions in this rally. Kajto 2010-2013, Chuchala 2014 and Habaj last year.

[br21]

Any info about the tire choices for second loop? Pluto?!?!?!:)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mads Østberg ‏@MadsOstberg
At Service "Leading the rally. Tyre choice worked well. The car's a bit soft, trying to adapt my driving..."

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Any info about the tire choices for second loop? Pluto?!?!?!:)

The leading drivers have left the regroup and service, most of them putting tape over the markings on their tyres so nobody knows what tyres they are on..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Classic @World photo

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdR2Hf0W4AE6LRm.jpg:large

[br21]

The leading drivers have left the regroup and service, most of them putting tape over the markings on their tyres so nobody knows what tyres they are on..

that's why I asked Pluto...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mads on the Hard tyres.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Luky also on Hards but still lost time.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kajto -0.9 to Mads... close !

[br21]

nice fight between the top two...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mads Østberg
SS5 15:36.1 "Some fog and rain. Had the right tyres going out but the weather changed. A bit unlucky."

[dimviii]

Kajto on mediums

[dimviii]

Luky on par with Mads at midstage,lost 12 sec at rest 12 km=1sec/km !!

[Mariusz]

Luky is on Pirellis, isn't he? Kajto also lost some time at the end. Interesting.

[dimviii]

Kajto tyre

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdRoIjDWEAA913J.jpg

[dimviii]

Luky is on Pirellis, isn't he? Kajto also lost some time at the end. Interesting.

Mads on hards

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Whats the point of the Rally Radio on this event, they seem to have no splits or even full stage times till later on.... and no interviews on half the stages.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kajto another stage win !

[Mirek]

Consani in troubles?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Consani in troubles?

Ares is slow.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

But for the first stage today (with a tyres making a big difference), Kajto would be ahead here...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@Kajto_pl during this first leg
SS2 :(
SS3 ;)
SS4 :)
SS5 :D
SS6 :cool:

[Mirek]

Right, it was Ares. My bad.

[br21]

Hard to say which tires are better, as on one stage you have very different road conditions, also different conditions on different stages in the loop. Plus drivers can choose from few different compounds. So hard to say, but for sure interesting!

[RS]

Top 3 seem to be on a good level, impressed with Lukyanuk given his very limited experience of asphalt.

Love Kajto's livery this year.

[Sch17]

Interesting fight in erc 3, 3 cars for last podium position :)

[dimviii]

Top 3 seem to be on a good level, impressed with Lukyanuk given his very limited experience of asphalt.

Love Kajto's livery this year.

yes the interesting think at this rally is Lukys times at asphalt .About Mads we already knew is slow.

[dimviii]

Mads on problem or time error?
Showing Luky first reached finish.

[br21]

Ostberg crashed

[dimviii]

Mads out of road.

@AlexeyLukyanuk SS7: « @MadsOstberg missed a breaking point. He’s stopped. Big big shame for him, I think his rally is over… » #FIAERC

[Mariusz]

Mads has gone off.

[EstWRC]

i so saw this coming this on todays last stage. I have nothing against him but i just had a feeling the whole day that someone of the top3 will crash

[seb_sh]

Just as we were saying in the other thread he's slow but finishes rallies, he goes and crashes :P

[Quad]

Ostberg is one of the worst wrc drivers on tarmac, and he didn't made any signitficant imrovements on that surface since I remember

[RS]

That's a shame for the rally. He may be the slowest works-ish WRC driver on asphalt but he was a good benchmark for the others.

Maybe he actually felt more pressure to get a result here and was trying a bit too hard.

[dimviii]

Mads Østberg ‏@MadsOstberg 1 λεπτόΠριν από 1 λεπτό

SS7 UPDATE "We lost the breaks into a narrow corner. There was nothing I could do" @FIAERC @RIslasCanarias


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdSO1vOW4AAIRFX.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Wait to see.. could be a car fault.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ostberg is one of the worst wrc drivers on tarmac, and he didn't made any signitficant imrovements on that surface since I remember

Last tarmac event - Spain 2015

Some Ostberg stage results:
First - twice
Second - twice
Third - once

Finished 4th O/A ahead of Meeke, Paddon, Neuville & Kubica.

[EstWRC]

Luky won SS7, nice!

[Mirek]

Last tarmac event - Spain 2015

Some Ostberg stage results:
First - twice

Both gravel stages


Second - twice

Both gravel stages


Third - once

Gravel stage


Finished 4th O/A ahead of Meeke, Paddon, Neuville & Kubica.

Was 29 seconds down after 9 gravel stages, 1 minute 51 seconds down after another 12 asphalt stages. Last stage is confusing as Ogier who had a huge lead crashed there.

[RICARDO75]

Last tarmac event - Spain 2015

Some Ostberg stage results:
First - twice
Second - twice
Third - once

Finished 4th O/A ahead of Meeke, Paddon, Neuville & Kubica.

Yes, but on gravel stages. Remember that on Rally Spain, the first day is on gravel.

[EstWRC]

you can see here how much Mads lost on tarmac on saturday and sunday on rally hispania

http://www.ewrc-results.com/leg.php?e=19130&s=96983&leg=2&t=RallyRACC-Catalunya-Costa-Daurada-2015
http://www.ewrc-results.com/leg.php?e=19130&s=96983&leg=3&t=RallyRACC-Catalunya-Costa-Daurada-2015

[dimviii]

Last tarmac event - Spain 2015

Some Ostberg stage results:
First - twice
Second - twice
Third - once

.

asphalt at Spain 2015 was at Saturday and Sunday.
ss10 11th
ss11 10th
ss12 9th
ss13 7th
ss14 9th
ss15 8th
ss16 8th
ss17 9th
ss18 7th
ss19 6th
ss20 5th
ss21 6th
ss22 6th
ss23 5th

that was the best he could achieved with ds3 wrc a car well prooven at tarmac after 2 years at citroen sport with his well known co-driver.
The 2nd and 3rd positions you wrote were at 1st day at gravel when he was advantaged from road position.
Now hope you understand how slow he is.

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdSeb87WIAEqHXf.jpg

[Rallyper]

Lots of talk about 'asphalt training' for Mads. It's not his best surface but during his career he's had a massive amount of tarmac mileage - in rallies and in testing.

But I guess it sounds better to say you're getting in extra tarmac practice than the fact you're being paid to be there.

Don´t forget to do the opposite comments regarding drivers on snow. Most of top drivers from south Europe done a lot of rallies on snow, but not considered to be aces on the surface.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

asphalt at Spain 2015 was at Saturday and Sunday.
ss10 11th
ss11 10th
ss12 9th
ss13 7th
ss14 9th
ss15 8th
ss16 8th
ss17 9th
ss18 7th
ss19 6th
ss20 5th
ss21 6th
ss22 6th
ss23 5th

that was the best he could achieved with ds3 wrc a car well prooven at tarmac after 2 years at citroen sport with his well known co-driver.
The 2nd and 3rd positions you wrote were at 1st day at gravel when he was advantaged from road position.
Now hope you understand how slow he is.

On tarmac he isnt the fastest but on gravel he is competitive when in the right car/team.

4th in the 2015 WDC with one poor surface isnt bad.

[N.O.T]

Worthless Osteberg is worthless, cannot even win against ERC B class drivers.

[dimviii]

Don´t forget to do the opposite comments regarding drivers on snow. Most of top drivers from south Europe done a lot of rallies on snow, but not considered to be aces on the surface.

is Ostberg an ace at snow?

[dimviii]

On tarmac he isnt the fastest but on gravel he is competitive when in the right car/team.
till now wasnt at right car/teams?


4th in the 2015 WDC with one poor surface isnt bad.

isnt bad,but is not fast.Thats i said.

[Rally Power]

There’s still hope for the 911’s! In Spanish championship classification, Burgo (3.8 engine with ’16 restrictor) is 20s behind Monzon’s DS3 (he was only 1s before last stage). Cristian Garcia is amazingly leading spanish field in a Lancer EvoX GrN+.

On an overall combined classification, unrestricted Porsche’s (still allowed in Canarian championship) of local drivers Cruz and Martin would be fighting Luky for 2nd position.

At ERC Katjo is impressing. Bad luck for Ostberg. Hope Luky can fight for the lead till the end of the rally.

[Mirek]

Don´t forget to do the opposite comments regarding drivers on snow. Most of top drivers from south Europe done a lot of rallies on snow, but not considered to be aces on the surface.

Unless snow becomes something really relevant for the championship it's not comparable. For last couple of decades snow events were nothing but a curiosity in the calendar with very little importance in the grand scheme of things.


Anyway let's not polute another thread with the same stuff with was discussed to death elsewhere.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

till now wasnt at right car/teams?

isnt bad,but is not fast.Thats i said.

Apart from VW is anyone in the right car/team ? Mads was the best non-VW driver last season.

In 2016 at M-Sport he's in the only non-factory car and with a rookie team-mate who he cant rely on to score team points.

Not being fastest doesnt mean one is slow.

[dimviii]

Apart from VW is anyone in the right car/team ? ]

even with your example, didnt understand that he is slow? Wasnt ds3 right car?


Monzon spins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JApPUFuINfY&feature=youtu.be

[Jarek Z]

Ostberg seemed to be quite happy after the accident. Now he can continue his holiday on Canary Islands:

https://www.fiaerc.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/743829-800x533.jpg

Ostberg's comments:
https://www.fiaerc.com/erc-guest-star-ostberg-troubled-by-brake-issues-before-accident/

[Jarek Z]

Strange. Consani says he is going to switch between Peugeot 208 T16 and Citroen DS3 R5 depending on the rally. But he admits the cars are almost identical:
https://www.fiaerc.com/erc-r5-cars-spot-the-difference-with-consani/

[Allar]

Worthless Osteberg is worthless, cannot even win against ERC B class drivers.

But somehow hes 2th in WRC, i would say excellent driver.

[RS]

Ostberg's comments:
https://www.fiaerc.com/erc-guest-star-ostberg-troubled-by-brake-issues-before-accident/

A 'problem' then.

[RS]

Strange. Consani says he is going to switch between Peugeot 208 T16 and Citroen DS3 R5 depending on the rally. But he admits the cars are almost identical:
https://www.fiaerc.com/erc-r5-cars-spot-the-difference-with-consani/

He says mostly about budget, so I suppose it just depends which car Delta have available.

[Rallyper]

is Ostberg an ace at snow?

No, I said opposite about drivers from south. Exception for two sebs..

[Kalm]

Lukyanuks tyres:
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/10367710_589527951206457_6693741763734934965_n.jpg ?oh=3db63027fa72bc497bd074a20326a95c&oe=574D8636

[dimviii]

A 'problem' then.

always ther is a ''problem''

[Jarek Z]

Finally some sun over the Canary Islands :)

https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/t31.0-8/12841256_940537806065070_3046287569297042594_o.jpg

[Luis Pacheco]

Ostberg crash:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAvCrmPc0Hk

[PLuto]

Any info about the tire choices for second loop? Pluto?!?!?!:)

Due to "stupid" itinerary and tight schedule for remote refuel I had no chance to be at internet. But I have answered your question via Julian Porter through Rally radio, if you were listening...

[PLuto]

There’s still hope for the 911’s! In Spanish championship classification, Burgo (3.8 engine with ’16 restrictor) is 20s behind Monzon’s DS3 (he was only 1s before last stage). Cristian Garcia is amazingly leading spanish field in a Lancer EvoX GrN+.

On an overall combined classification, unrestricted Porsche’s (still allowed in Canarian championship) of local drivers Cruz and Martin would be fighting Luky for 2nd position.

At ERC Katjo is impressing. Bad luck for Ostberg. Hope Luky can fight for the lead till the end of the rally.

I dont like so much this comparison between ERC and national field. Drivers in national field has really different conditions - they are starting more than one hour later, so different weather conditions. They can use different tyres, they have no tyre limit etc. So this comparison is quite unfair.