Rally Italia Sardegna '16

[Bartolbia84]

The venue of the race will remain the city of Alghero, where it will remain the Service Park on the waterfront. Terminated the SSS of Cagliari, as expensive is considered useless by teams. According to rumors the DAY1 will always be in the area of Oristano (Grighine, Montiferru, Cabras probably remain with modifications), DAY2 nearby Monte Acuto (Monti di Alà, Coiluna-Loelle, Monte Lerno ...) and the DAY3 nearby Alghero (Cala Flumini plus one other test)

[AL14]

The venue of the race will remain the city of Alghero, where it will remain the Service Park on the waterfront. Terminated the SSS of Cagliari, as expensive is considered useless by teams. According to rumors the DAY1 will always be in the area of Oristano (Grighine, Montiferru, Cabras probably remain with modifications), DAY2 nearby Monte Acuto (Monti di Alà, Coiluna-Loelle, Monte Lerno ...) and the DAY3 nearby Alghero (Cala Flumini plus one other test)

So, except for Cagliari the areas remain the same as last year?
Damn, I was hoping for a come back of the stages near Olbia like Terranova and others...

[Bartolbia84]

So, except for Cagliari the areas remain the same as last year?
Damn, I was hoping for a come back of the stages near Olbia like Terranova and others...

Yes!! Similar 2015 edition

[Mintexmemory]

If it ain't broke don't fix it!

Great itinerary last year but drop the arena stage on Saturday morning and get a second run of the Ozieri stage

[AL14]

If it ain't broke don't fix it!

Great itinerary last year but drop the arena stage on Saturday morning and get a second run of the Ozieri stage

Yeah right. I was hoping for stages near Olbia also on day 1 since I will be based near there. Just an egotistic wish. :D The route was actually very good, for those who wanted it was possible to see up to 5 passes in a day if you started in a good place.
Will you go this year too Mintex?

[hype]

Alright, so is this officially confirmed?

[Mintexmemory]

Not this year as NORF is my bucket list visit this time _ yay!!!!(unless I win the lottery and then nothing would stop me - love Sardinia)

[AL14]

Not this year as NORF is my bucket list visit this time _ yay!!!!(unless I win the lottery and then nothing would stop me - love Sardinia)

Good choice! I want to go in Finland sooner or later. But this year it's impossible. Sardinia is a "cheap" choice for me, so I'll probably go back, Finland not. A pity we did not meet each other last year. It will be for 2017 :)

[AL14]

Tomorrow online the Rally Guide 1 on the official website: http://www.rallyitaliasardegna.com/

[AL14]

And here it is.
Oristano's stages on Day1 have been replaced by new stages in the area near the Ozieri stage of last year.
On day2 the stages are in the same area with some changes at the routes but it will be still possible to watch 4 passes.

More on http://www.rallyitaliasardegna.com/

[tommeke_B]

Slightly disappointed by the itinerary, especially after what we had last year... It looks like the organizers used some easier solutions for this edition. Ostberg will be happy with the short days. :)

[AL14]

Slightly disappointed by the itinerary, especially after what we had last year... It looks like the organizers used some easier solutions for this edition. Ostberg will be happy with the short days. :)

I agree. The rally had a bit of an identity last year. The kms were a lot both on the road section and in the competitive sections. And if I'm not wrong it was the rally with more SS of the champioship (24).
Now it is more or less like the others.
There are some pros, btw, like the return of the Tergu Osilo that if I remember well is a sort of a classic and of course less kms to do in the car if you go spectate but it was not a problem for a real fan actually.

[hype]

Nice to see first information of my beloved Rally Sardinia.
Just changed my apartment to be closer to the action :)

[jbmarcus21]

Google Earth Map Sardegna 2016 => http://goo.gl/eTBg6T

[jacko]

Entry-list Rally Italia Sardegna
1 Ogier Sébastien / Ingrassia Julien Volkswagen Polo R WRC RC1
2 Latvala Jari-Matti / Anttila Miikka Volkswagen Polo R WRC RC1
3 Paddon Hayden / Kennard John Hyundai i20 WRC '16 RC1
4 Sordo Dani / Martí Marc Hyundai i20 WRC '16 RC1
5 Østberg Mads / Fløene Ola Ford Fiesta RS WRC RC1
6 Camilli Eric / Veillas Benjamin Ford Fiesta RS WRC RC1
9 Mikkelsen Andreas / Jæger Anders Volkswagen Polo R WRC RC1
10 Abbring Kevin / Marshall Sebastian Hyundai i20 WRC RC1
12 Tänak Ott / Mõlder Raigo Ford Fiesta RS WRC RC1
16 Solberg Henning / Minor-Petrasko Ilka Ford Fiesta RS WRC RC1
18 Gorban Valeriy / Korsia Volodymyr Mini Cooper WRC RC1
20 Neuville Thierry / Gilsoul Nicolas Hyundai i20 WRC '16 RC1
21 Prokop Martin / Tománek Jan Ford Fiesta RS WRC RC1
30 Al-Rajhi Yazeed / Orr Michael Ford Fiesta RS WRC RC1
31 Ptaszek Hubert / Szczepaniak Maciej Peugeot 208 T16 RC2
32 Kremer Armin / Winklhofer Pirmin Škoda Fabia R5 RC2
33 Rendina Max / Inglesi Emanuele Ford Fiesta R5 RC2
34 Suninen Teemu / Markkula Mikko Škoda Fabia R5 RC2
35 Lappi Esapekka / Ferm Janne Škoda Fabia R5 RC2
36 Giordano Quentin / Salva Thierry Peugeot 208 T16 RC2
37 Bertelli Lorenzo / Scattolin Simone Ford Fiesta RS WRC RC1
38 Bonato Yoann / Giraudet Denis Citroën DS3 R5 RC2
39 Suárez José Antonio / Carrera Cándido Peugeot 208 T16 RC2
40 Gilbert Quentin / Jamoul Renaud Citroën DS3 R5 RC2
41 Aasen Marius / Gulbæk Engan Veronica Ford Fiesta R5 RC2
42 Fuchs Nicolás / Mussano Fernando Škoda Fabia R5 RC2
43 Kopecký Jan / Dresler Pavel Škoda Fabia R5 RC2
44 Scandola Umberto / D'Amore Guido Škoda Fabia R5 RC2
45 Maurin Julien / Ural Olivier Škoda Fabia R5 RC2
46 Loubet Pierre-Louis / Landais Vincent Peugeot 207 S2000 RC2
47 Pärn Sander / Järveoja Martin Ford Fiesta R5 RC2
48 Turán Frigyes / Zsíros Gábor Ford Fiesta R5 RC2
49 Bestard Augusto / Mendonca Fernando Ford Fiesta R5 RC2
61 Andolfi Fabio / Fenoli Manuel Peugeot 208 VTi R2 RC4
62 De Tommaso Damiano / Rocca Paolo Peugeot 208 VTi R2 RC4
63 Brazzoli Enrico / Barone Maurizio Peugeot 208 VTi R2 RC4
64 Giusti Igor / Dini Gilbert Peugeot 208 VTi R2 RC4
81 Della Casa Federico / Pozzi Domenico Ford Fiesta RS WRC RC1
82 Maarend Mait / Kapp Mihkel Mini Cooper WRC RC1
83 Tononi Roberto / Comini Paolo Ford Fiesta RS WRC RC1
84 Dettori Giuseppe / Pisano Carlo Ford Fiesta R5 RC2
85 Hoelbling Luca / Grassi Mauro Škoda Fabia R5 RC2
86 Bitti Giovanni / Achenza Stefano Peugeot 207 S2000 RC2
87 Covi Carlo / Angi Simone Peugeot 207 S2000 RC2
88 Marrone Francesco / Fresu Francesco Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX RC2
89 Leoni Gianluca / Torricelli Vincenzo Subaru Impreza STi N12 RC2
90 Catania Davide / Salis Fabio Peugeot 208 VTi R2 RC4
91 Leoni Alessandro / Demontis Marco Citroën C2 R2 RC4
92 Fusi Matteo / Salgaro Nicolò Fiat Abarth 500 R3T RC3

[AL14]

For the first time I will follow this from a couch. Please do not share too much videos from stages :bigcry:

[hype]

Am I too stupid to find the maps on the official page http://www.rallyitaliasardegna.com ?
On the start page on the bottom right there are the latest documents.
But where is the rest?

[AL14]

Am I too stupid to find the maps on the official page http://www.rallyitaliasardegna.com ?
On the start page on the bottom right there are the latest documents.
But where is the rest?

No you're not.
As always in the rally world Internet is still stucked in late 90's.
I suggest you to go to rally-maps.com or planetemarcus if you need maps...

That website is a mess. There are hundreds of thousands of people in Italy and Europe that can build a better website than that...

[Franky]

You can find the day maps, not individual stage maps, under competitors section.

[hype]

The individual stage maps have been published yesterday.
Better late than never, right? :)

http://www.rallyitaliasardegna.com/en/guide-to-ss/

[WUff1]

Very good list, Scandola a positive suprise.

[AL14]

Andolfi still in an R2... A shame. I think he deserves a chance with an R5, especially in the home rally.

[WUff1]

Still a shame that guys like Ucci and Basso can´t participate (anymore).

[Simmi]

Looks like Karl Kruuda is going to compete with Dmack - https://twitter.com/DMACK_Tyres/status/737638655842385920

I can't imagine they've been able to put in a late entry, so would assume he's replacing either Parn or Aasen. Anyone know?

[EstWRC]

nope, dont know more at the moment but im sure something will be in our sports news today...complete surprise for me because Kruuda was said to miss this season because his father's milk company went bankrupt and there went his budget to participate this season.

[EstWRC]

Actually i just saw in the entry list that he is replacing Pärn.

[Mekola]

I see Neuville again...

[AL14]

Miki Biaision with Lancia Delta Integrale will participate in the historic rally along with codriver Pirollo.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport release on Sardinia:

http://www.m-sport.co.uk/m-sport-news/fiesta-rs-wrc/sun-sand-and-speed-m-sport-seek-success-in-sardinia

[Mintexmemory]

Damn a historic rally to support this year!! Hope it's the same next year because just like Arnie ' I'll be back'

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkWNaKTWgAAvy9u.jpg

[stefanvv]

It probably ends the same day too. But hopefully I'm wrong....

[AL14]

It probably ends the same day too. But hopefully I'm wrong....

Sorry I didn't get it.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It probably ends the same day too. But hopefully I'm wrong....


No Meeke so time for one of the others to take the fight to Ogier...

Over to you Mr Paddon and the VW boys.

[stefanvv]

Sorry I didn't get it.

Either Ogier will be in front after 1st day and win will be easy, or will be far behind. In both cases rally will be over for the win.
I was just little bit ironic for 1 day rally.

[pantealex]

Recce only: Andreucci, Breen, Hänninen, Chewyn Lim, Osian Pryce and OC Veiby

[Mariusz]

Add Ptaszek to your list. His codriver, Maciek Szczepaniak is not fit enough yet to take part.

[hype]

See you guys on Sardinia, may the force be with you :o

I'm wearing a fluorescent green shirt if someone wants to chat :D

[AL14]

Either Ogier will be in front after 1st day and win will be easy, or will be far behind. In both cases rally will be over for the win.
I was just little bit ironic for 1 day rally.

Oh ok. I thought tou were referring to Euro2016 finishing the same day of the rally, not the other way round. lol
btw, Ogier is very strong in Sardinia but if it is dry opening the road there is very very difficult.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The lower road positions for Latvala & Neuville give them the least excuses ... if they dont do anything the first two days, they never will.

Tanak should also benefit (tyres permitting). Paddon has chances based on an OK road position and his last performance here.

Sordo can do something just with being consistent, ditto Ostberg (although 3rd on the road isnt great). Mikkelsen running 2nd wont get much advantage either.

[eib1]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkfUoN4WUAEwDuJ.jpg

[eib1]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkfZpfkWkAAU8Sq.jpg

[Mirek]

I heard that Fiesta was crap...

[skarderud]

Why isnt Citroën attending?

[eib1]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkffX4RXAAEWPbi.jpg

[Lundefaret]

Why isnt Citroën attending?

I believe they have full focus on the 2017 car. They only do selected events this year. Not sure what events they are doing for the rest of the year.

[eib1]

Mikkelsen

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckfq07UXAAAKSdS.jpg

[eib1]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckf9vA1WYAAmmh_.jpg

[stefanvv]

I heard that Fiesta was crap...

Yeah, but D-Mack have good tyres:D for awhile.

[EstWRC]

its the driver ;)

[leighton323]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckf9vA1WYAAmmh_.jpg
Fuchs pace has been surprisingly good this year. Was not expected at all but I hope he can continue this good form.

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

its the driver

Yeah, Ostberg. ;)

[Mirek]

Yeah, that crappy Fiesta...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yeah, that crappy Fiesta...


WRC.com

Ogier topped the times through the 3.00km Olmedo test on his fourth and final run in his Volkswagen Polo R. Østberg almost pipped him with the last of his five runs but fell just short in his (crappy) Ford Fiesta RS.

[EstWRC]

its just a shakedown and it took whole day for Ostberg to get there. We will see tomorrow who is fast and not.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

its just a shakedown and it took whole day for Ostberg to get there. We will see tomorrow who is fast and not.

Whatever.

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/y9rZX98SRO8


https://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive/sets/72157669023537712

[Martins Tolks]

its just a shakedown and it took whole day for Ostberg to get there. We will see tomorrow who is fast and N.O.T.

that seems more appropriate :D

[danon]

https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13393894_10153872982633952_7593139944003694363_n.j pg?oh=6717976db679a1607982dac1dbefa114&oe=57C5B321

https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13418409_10153549712217377_6271316059935920965_o.j pg
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10153549712922377&id=304992427376

[eib1]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkgUNnpWgAAoOf9.jpg

http://www.autohebdo.fr/sites/default/files/actualites/_wrc-ogier-sardaigne-shakedown-declarations.jpg

[Mirek]

Martin Prokop got 5 minutes penalty for braking a season-long seal for rear differential.

[eib1]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkhJN8GWsAAJ2L5.jpg

[PLuto]

Full start list here - http://rally-base.com/2016/rally-italia-sardegna-2016/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=668

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Anyone find a stream for tonights SSS ? Should be on local TV...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkCUy9lXAAABYch.jpg:large

[Lundefaret]

Car 2 has a big advantage if they run it only once.

[Mirek]

So far the average speeds have been a bit too low even for SSS...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Local website confirms no live TV coverage of the Ittiri SSS. :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mikkelsen on SD cut the corner a bit too close...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkhjxBYVEAABiQB.jpg:large

SD videos:

https://youtu.be/0UwP2ywJrw0

https://youtu.be/bij6uWNQRMM

https://youtu.be/nk76I_TQYXA

https://youtu.be/HAP2n90B3Go

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Michelin Motorsport

Tyre info:
VW/Camilli/Sordo/Neuville: 4 Michelin LTX Force S4+1H
Paddon: 5S4
Abbring: 4S
Ostberg 3S+2H

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckhv3MGXEAAF42p.jpg

[dimviii]

Gary Boyd ‏@KiwiWRCfan

Neuville receives 3 fines for speeding during recce
225euro for 9.2 kph on SS10,
500euro for 10.1 kph on SS12
&
1,000euro for 9.9kph on SS3

[Mirek]

That's quite strict. We've had a looooot worse infrigements from WRC drivers...

[dimviii]

Ostberg in par with Suninen

Mads Østberg ‏@MadsOstberg

SSS1 02:01.1
“It was ok. Nice stage. We’re through, that's good

[Mintexmemory]

That's quite strict. We've had a looooot worse infrigements from WRC drivers...

Probably in a 20 kph zone!!!

[Lundefaret]

Gary Boyd ‏@KiwiWRCfan

Neuville receives 3 fines for speeding during recce
225euro for 9.2 kph on SS10,
500euro for 10.1 kph on SS12
&
1,000euro for 9.9kph on SS3

They have a GPS with an alarm that sounds when you speed, so you got a little time to get down to the right speed. Either there was something wrong with the alarm, or maybe Neuville misjudged how fast he needed to get back to the right speed?

[hype]

Polvere at Shakedown ;)

http://patrik-pangerl.com/wrc-rally-italia-sardegna-2016/WRC-Rally-Italia-Sardegna-2016-01-006-Ott Tänak-Ford Fiesta RS WRC.jpg

http://patrik-pangerl.com/wrc-rally-italia-sardegna-2016/WRC-Rally-Italia-Sardegna-2016-01-008-Kevin Abbring-Hyundai i20 WRC.jpg

http://patrik-pangerl.com/wrc-rally-italia-sardegna-2016/WRC-Rally-Italia-Sardegna-2016-01-012-Henning Solberg-Ford Fiesta RS WRC.jpg

http://patrik-pangerl.com/wrc-rally-italia-sardegna-2016/WRC-Rally-Italia-Sardegna-2016-01-023-Lorenzo Bertelli-Ford Fiesta RS WRC.jpg

[itix]

That's quite strict. We've had a looooot worse infrigements from WRC drivers...

Ogier springs to mind in Sweden or Monte (can't remember) doing well over 150 kph...

[GigiGalliNo1]

A bit of Variety in images posted here... all I've seen from Shakedown is the SAME CORNER of the stage from 456 different angles by the 345 @ World photographers!

[bluuford]

Today morning we are expecting nice weather, little bit clouds and temperatures around +25 for morning loop, so, not too hot yet.

However, it is expected that first two stages might be held in compplete calm conditons. It should not be too bad for the first stage (stage 2) as it is held in very open landscape. However, stage 3 is in forrest and it should be calm again. Lets see if the wind picks up by the right time or not. Wind should be Ok for stages 4 and 5 again.

[b3637853]

Here we go, let's have a good rally.

Onboard with Ogier on shakedown:
https://www.facebook.com/WorldRally/videos/10153711050480678/

Starting order for today's stages:
http://i.imgur.com/kLMJDwI.jpg

[Mirek]

Starting order for today's stages:
file:///C:/Users/hmarkowicz/Downloads/Start-List-for-Section-2-TC1B-Friday-10th-June-2016.pdf

Is that a hecker challenge who can get on Your local drive? :)

[PLuto]

Starting order for today should be visible also here - http://rally-base.com/2016/rally-italia-sardegna-2016/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=669

[b3637853]

Is that a hecker challenge who can get on Your local drive? :)

Just saw that :) Edited, but now it's too late because you qutoed me;)

[N.O.T]

Nice pace by Ostberg... magnificent !!!

[b3637853]

Nice pace by Ostberg... magnificent !!!

All Fiesta drivers did not so good.

[EstWRC]

Tänak had a spin but i dont know how much he lost there.

Tänak SS1: There was a stupid edge in the hairpin near the start. We spun and took a long time to get turned around. There's a long way to go."

[Jasper]

Gorban and Al Rahji off road. (source: Tommeke)

[JTGANG]

Picture from the place.....

[Simmi]

Not sure what happened to Abbring in there but he's had another bad start. Hopefully he hasn't cut into a rockface and broken his suspension again.

EDIT: Like Becsy said it might be due to the accidents before him.

[stefanvv]

Suninen faster than Ostberg & Camilli

[N.O.T]

Suninen faster than Ostberg & Camilli

but ... but... but... but the fiestas did good in shakedown... the car is good....

[RS]

Suninen faster than Ostberg & Camilli

Incredible time, although I think lower start position is a big advantage on Sardinia?

Ogier won a stage here in the Fabia S2000.

[sindroms]

Picture from the place.....

Very tricky place in deed...
https://www.google.lv/maps/@40.6510867,8.825381,3a,75y,71.26h,86.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7fXHF1ddU-Sg48cCNFM8_Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1?hl=lv

[eib1]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckk1laJWgAAbDw6.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckk1lavWsAA-k17.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckk1lesWYAEGNVy.jpg

[MartijnS]

Al Rajhi and the WRC is not a good combo yet.

[AL14]

What a shame. Ogier winning a stage in Sardinia opening the road...

[N.O.T]

AL14 is online... quick post pictures from the event to get him depressed he is not there !!!!

[Mirek]

Is SS2 canceled for the rest of the crews or what the hell the split times do?

[stefanvv]

Abbring update
Front-wheel drive only for the opening stage.

[stefanvv]

Incredible time, although I think lower start position is a big advantage on Sardinia?

Ogier won a stage here in the Fabia S2000.

Of course it is. Ogier won a stage but with good tyres left. It is not the case now with Suninen.

[EstWRC]

Dmacks already melting :(

[AL14]

AL14 is online... quick post pictures from the event to get him depressed he is not there !!!!

Weren't you a graceful god? That is cruel :(

[JTGANG]

Abbring has broker propshaft.....Again a bad start....

[stefanvv]

What a shame. Ogier winning a stage in Sardinia opening the road...

Neuville is shaking his head

[PLuto]

Is SS2 canceled for the rest of the crews or what the hell the split times do?

Problems with results maybe? According to GPS all other WRC2 cars passed the finish.

[PLuto]

Problems with results maybe? According to GPS all other WRC2 cars passed the finish.

Or maybe they cancelled rest of stage due to crash of Gorban and Al Rajhi?

[EightGear]

It's hard being an Abbring fan.

[PLuto]

It's hard being an Abbring fan.

If the car is not working...

[RS]

SS2 stopped and cars going through in road mode.

[EightGear]

If the car is not working...
I meant I am a fan, but it's not easy when things almost never go to plan.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No critical/sarcastic comments on Ostberg's 3rd best time on SS3 ? Thought not.

[cali]

We'll wait for the downshift or some other problems to occur when the stage times are dropping .... :D

On a serious note - nice to see his times, hopefully no "problems" this time around.

[Jasper]

Paddon off road, keeps going.

[RS]

Nice time by Scandola on SS3.

[JTGANG]

Paddon off road, keeps going.

Off but continues

[Rallyper]

So "slow" Ostberg now 1 st on SS4.

[stefanvv]

Lot of cleaning effect on ss4. Some will pull ahead.

[liposh]

If the car is not working...

Two years ago I said Abbring´s car failures are not a coincidence. And now in 2016 it is still the same story. Different car, but same story. So either he was very bad person in his last life and this is karma or he is just terrible driver.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So "slow" Ostberg now 1 st on SS4.

Ostberg already ahead of 3 factory cars (Hyundai).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/EddieFocus/Mads_zpspwpv36a1.jpg

[EstWRC]

Suninen mighty impressive so far. Good to see that Mads has got rid of his problems. Neuville very suprising

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shame for Camilli having a driveshaft problem after good event in Portugal and a decent start here. :(

[Mirek]

Suninen mighty impressive so far. Good to see that Mads has got rid of his problems. Neuville very suprising

Pity some WRC2 drivers had no chance to go through SS2 on race mode as Scandola was even faster than Suninen in SS3. Let's see further.

[Rallyper]

Ostberg already ahead of 3 factory cars (Hyundai).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/EddieFocus/Mads_zpspwpv36a1.jpg

Yeah, you don´t have to convince me about his speed. I know it´s there no matter what other experts having said.

[cali]

Last stage was completely about road conditions, late starters were having better stage times.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS5 - Everyone going faster with the lower road positions...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak slow though...

[Mirek]

Pity some WRC2 drivers had no chance to go through SS2 on race mode as Scandola was even faster than Suninen in SS3. Let's see further.

Scandola faster than Suninen again.

[dupanton]

Finally some pace by Neuville :) I hope he can keep going and finish with a good result (podium would be good for his confidence).

[AL14]

Scandola is doing a very good job. Also Fuchs and of course Suninen. WRC2 sounds quite interesting.

[EstWRC]

lol, those Dmacks are funny tires. Previous stage Tänak was third and this stage finished on rims and lost 47 seconds.

[Simmi]

Difficult for Tanak. The reason he's in a drive is because of Dmack so he can't really turn around and slate Dmack - even if their tyres are made of chewing gum.

Nice to see Thierry back in the lead.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak knew the DMacks were suffering but still destroyed them with his 'maximum attack' on the last stage. Now he paid the price. :(

[cali]

lol, those Dmacks are funny tires. Previous stage Tänak was third and this stage finished on rims and lost 47 seconds.
Yeah, problably destroyed the rubber on the previous stage. If they wanted to show their pace - good for them; but overall, not so smart thing to do.

[AL14]

Do not forget that DMACKS can have a role also when he set good times, not only bad ones...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mads Østberg ‏@MadsOstberg
SS5 - 9:58.3 Tried to manage my tyres. Maybe I could push more, but wanted to get through.

[Simmi]

Prokop quicker than Ogier there but struggling for motivation.

Seems to be complaining about the stewards' decision. Surely that's a cut and dry penalty though. Seal is broken - end of story? If he'd not been registered as a team I guess this wouldn't be an issue?

[PLuto]

Do not forget that DMACKS can have a role also when he set good times, not only bad ones...

Do not forget that rallysport is to be first (or on highest possible position) in finish of the rally, not about good times on the stage...

[AL14]

Do not forget that rallysport is to be first (or on highest possible position) in finish of the rally, not about good times on the stage...

Never said the contrary.

[raybak]

You need to look out for this up and coming driver from Norway Mr Henning Solberg, 5th fastest on stage 5. Maybe it's time for me to make an appearance at the age of 45:)

Ray

[EstWRC]

Tanak knew the DMacks were suffering but still destroyed them with his 'maximum attack' on the last stage. Now he paid the price. :(

we dont exactly know what are his and team's plans. maybe they wanted to do so?

[PLuto]

Prokop quicker than Ogier there but struggling for motivation.

Seems to be complaining about the stewards' decision. Surely that's a cut and dry penalty though. Seal is broken - end of story? If he'd not been registered as a team I guess this wouldn't be an issue?

Yes, without registration to WRC Team, it should be different. But for me it is big failure of the team, in regulations it is always written notice that seals cannot be destroyed without written approval of FIA technical delegate...

[PLuto]

SS 2 was cancelled because fall by a spectator...

[AL14]

Scandola 2.8 secs faster than Ogier at first split lol

[eib1]

Gorban crash:

https://twitter.com/babrovskag/status/741221102865813504

[Sulland]

Henning best Ford on SS5, and 7th overall!
Not bad!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

we dont exactly know what are his and team's plans. maybe they wanted to do so?

Same with anyone but we all make comments.

[stefanvv]

Scandola 2.8 secs faster than Ogier at first split lol

But didn't beat him at the end, however Suninen did.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Prokop will get 5 min penalty at end of rally? If he retires will it go towards next rally? Shame

[Mirek]

But didn't beat him at the end, however Suninen did.

Scandola spun.


Prokop will get 5 min penalty at end of rally? If he retires will it go towards next rally? Shame

No, he has the penalty already since the beginning of the rally.

[GravelBen]

Two years ago I said Abbring´s car failures are not a coincidence. And now in 2016 it is still the same story. Different car, but same story. So either he was very bad person in his last life and this is karma or he is just terrible driver.

I have noticed on a few occasions when he was setting some good stage times (Corsica last year for example) that he was taking a lot of risks with big cuts etc to make up the time. That style often seems to result in car damage.

[Mirek]

Blaming his driving style for braking a cardan shaft and moreover already after just few kilometers of the event sounds silly to me. I don't believe it was his fault.

[bluuford]

Remember that it was first loop of stages for hard DMack. They want to know how these tyres work in different circumstances, so, another lesson learnt ;)

[eib1]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckk8DFwWkAA_Zi4.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckk8Ev4XIAAQqGI.jpg

[bluuford]

Does he have co-dirver? Or do they have pacenotes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDs4ZgqZgm4&feature=youtu.be

[AL14]

Does he have co-dirver? Or do they have pacenotes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDs4ZgqZgm4&feature=youtu.be

LOL, why people in that spot are looking at trees instead of looking at road and cars?

[stefanvv]

Scandola spun.

Part of the game. Thanks for the info.

[stefanvv]

LOL, why people in that spot are looking at trees instead of looking at road and cars?

Moreover they're putting themselves in danger there.

[liposh]

Blaming his driving style for braking a cardan shaft and moreover already after just few kilometers of the event sounds silly to me. I don't believe it was his fault.

That´s why I said there are two possibilities :D

[Sulland]

Only T16 in rally out. Not by tech reason for change :p

Quentin Giordano: We ripped a wheel and have to give up. We hope to leave tomorrow Rally 2. @LoebRacing # WRC2

[ZequeArgentina]

José Suarez is also on a T16, but no info about him on SS4 and SS5 (not even stating him as retired).

[Ucci]

Does he have co-dirver? Or do they have pacenotes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDs4ZgqZgm4&feature=youtu.be

that was a close call for spectacors.....

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport quotes after morning loop.

Mads Østberg (4th) said:

“I’m very pleased with our morning. We made the perfect tyre choice and now that the car is working well we are exactly where we should be. It’s fantastic to know that when everything comes together, we are right there in the fight. That’s what we all believed from the beginning and now that it’s confirmed it’s a really good feeling.

“This afternoon we just need to continue what we have been doing this morning. I’m sure there will be some road cleaning on the second pass so it certainly won’t be easy, but we will fight as always for the best position."

Éric Camilli (24th) said:

“It was a good start to the morning. An even better start than the one we made in Portugal and we felt really good with the car. Unfortunately, we ended up with only two-wheel drive and lost a lot of time but the most important thing is that we made it through the stages and are able to continue this afternoon.

“Of course it was disappointing as without it we could have been fourth or even third right now! We know that – we know that we are competitive – and that is a very important thing for the future.”

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Beautiful coastal backdrop with Martini Lancias parked alongside... :cool:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CklrQmBWUAAGAcB.jpg

[EstWRC]

Tänak's tyres after first loop


http://rallifoorum.ee/foorum/download/file.php?id=307

[maciotacio]

Seems that those new gravel DMACKs suffers the same issues as Pirellis when it's hot outside.
At least they don't jump off the rims like it was for the whole last year in Kubica case.

[PLuto]

José Suarez is also on a T16, but no info about him on SS4 and SS5 (not even stating him as retired).

He is stated as retired - http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=377&crewId=29848

[dimviii]

Seems that those new gravel DMACKs suffers the same issues as Pirellis when it's hot outside.
At least they don't jump off the rims like it was for the whole last year in Kubica case.

yes its better to be on dmacks than on pirellis.

[ZequeArgentina]

He is stated as retired - http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=377&crewId=29848

Thank you!!


Other issue: Lorenzo Bertelli si doing much better than ever before.
He has one stage with problems SS4, puncture, off, damper and diff failure. (he said this order, but maybe puncture was after off), otherwise onle 1,3 to 1,6 secs off the pace.
Not that is something special, just a side note.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport ‏@MSportLtd
Our Norwegian @MadsOstberg is playing the long game this afternoon. Hindered with an extra spare now, but could be an advantage later.

Mads Østberg ‏@MadsOstberg
I expect tyre wear so have 1 ex spare. Will lose time, but it's worth it.

[RS]

Suninen is crazy fast on this stage.. no sweeping effect this time.

[dimviii]

Suninen is crazy fast on this stage.. no sweeping effect this time.

he is not fast,Mads just carying 2 spares.

[dimviii]

Paddon out of road at last corner.

[EstWRC]

Paddon off in the last corner...damn, 2 rallies in a row retirement after win.

[satukata]

Paddon off in the last corner...damn, 2 rally in a row retirement after win.

and thierry leading and driving in 2nd team.

[AL14]

and thierry leading and driving in 2nd team.

That 2nd team will end the championship with more points than the main one lol

[PLuto]

Paddon off in the last corner...damn, 2 rally in a row retirement after win.

Everything is about head. Before his win, nobody was expecting he will fight for first place. But now it is different, everybody expects he will be fighting with Ogier. And mainly he has this fact in his mind...

[satukata]

suninen lost time. don´t know why?

[PLuto]

suninen lost time. don´t know why?

It is difficult to find informations about non-WRC drivers...

[JTGANG]

Paddon's car.....Quite heavy impact

[dimviii]

Everything is about head. Before his win, nobody was expecting he will fight for first place. But now it is different, everybody expects he will be fighting with Ogier. And mainly he has this fact in his mind...
the new hyundai that builded at some days
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkmOO_oWgAAR6ro.jpg

[RS]

suninen lost time. don´t know why?

Puncture i'd guess. Bring back mousse!

[ZequeArgentina]

Battle is the R5´s is going great, after some delay of Suninen in last splits here is general standngs:

1- Scandola
2- Lappi + 2,3 s
3- Suninen + 10,9
4- Fuchs + 11,4

[PLuto]

Puncture i'd guess. Bring back mousse!

No mousse !

[satukata]

Paddon's car.....Quite heavy impact

looks like no rally2. heavy impact can brake rollcage

[GigiGalliNo1]

Other issue: Lorenzo Bertelli si doing much better than ever before.
He has one stage with problems SS4, puncture, off, damper and diff failure. (he said this order, but maybe puncture was after off), otherwise onle 1,3 to 1,6 secs off the pace.
Not that is something special, just a side note.

Off the pace of whom?

[dimviii]

looks like no rally2. heavy impact can brake rollcage

yes i dont think its possible to dont have damage at cage.

[Mirek]

This is definitely a bodyshell written off.

[dimviii]

very dangerous for fire again.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkmUNlPWUAABxae.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkmUNkwWYAEeawW.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Deep into the bushes...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkmUNkwWYAEeawW.jpg


Good job the grass isnt as long as in Portugal or it would be another i20 burned out.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ostberg maybe regretting the choice of an extra wheel:

SS8 "Quite a good stage but I'm struggling with the balance of the car. In hindsight maybe just one spare tyre would have been a better choice."

[Fast Eddie WRC]

‏@rallytravel
Officials do a fantastic job to clear a sudden rockfall - just before the arrival of Jari-Matti.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkmWVPbWsAA_3wY.jpg

‏@JariMattiWRC
@rallytravel Please, thank them for me!

[dimviii]

just thinking if there was Acropolis at 35+ celsious

Fri 17:30 - SS8: Tanak
He has a rear-left puncture and extremely worn front tyres. "These are the only tyres I have for the next stage. Okay, slicks it is then..."


Dmack seems has a LOT work to do.

[TWRC]

It will be interesting how Hyundai will be handling this Paddon crash publicly and behind the doors as well.
Edit: meanwhile, Neuville is doing not so bad, looks like the fortunes might have changed.

[EstWRC]

i just feel so sorry for him :(

[dimviii]

Dela Casa ss7

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkmZWb-WgAMdUA7.jpg

[dimviii]

i just feel so sorry for him :(

2nd 0 points in a row from crash. Lets see how he will handle it.

[EstWRC]

i meant Tänak actually but yes you can count Paddon also in

[bluuford]

2nd 0 points in a row from crash. Lets see how he will handle it.

Pattern of the season, win it or bin it. 6 rallyes, 3 crashes., 1 win, 1 second place... and one 5th.
From star to ash?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I meant Tänak actually ...

Nooo, you talking about Tanak, really... :ohplease:

[EstWRC]

what a day from Neuville, out of nowhere for me

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good lead for Neuville (and Latvala) but all down to their advantageous road positions. Cant really give them so much credit.

Ogier still the man given all his road sweeping. He said was happy to beat those who he saw as his competition here, Mikkelsen & Ostberg, who have a similar road position.

[Mirek]

In WRC2 Scandola in a tight lead ahead of Lappi. Sunninen and Fuchs are even closer to each other. Complete top 5 in WRC2 for Škodas now. Kruuda in some problems and Aasen now slow (likely due to tires). Kopecký back in top 5 after the puncture.

[AL14]

In WRC2 Scandola in a tight lead ahead of Lappi. Sunninen and Fuchs are even closer to each other. Complete top 5 in WRC2 for Škodas now. Kruuda in some problems and Aasen now slow (likely due to tires). Kopecký back in top 5 after the puncture.

Unusual relatively problem free rally for top drivers in WRC2. Just a couple of spin from a couple of drivers and one puncture for Kopecky.
It's strange in a rally like this one.

[dimviii]

Hayden Paddon ‏@HaydenPaddon

No words....incredibly disappointed and sorry that I let everyone down again from another silly mistake.

We will bounce back and I hope this is just a small dip we are going through to help us to be stronger for the future


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkmmLxcWEAAzSuR.jpg:large

[Mirek]

Scandola wins another stage in WRC2.

[Mintexmemory]

Wonder how Capito feels about another 'wildcard' who hasn't competed previously this season blowing his guys into the dust?

[N.O.T]

Seems all that praise did Paddon harm... it seems that todays drivers have as a goal to win against Ogier and VW and then they just feel complete when they achieve it and Mess things up afterwards... it is a shame.

[dimviii]

Fri 18:39 - SS9: WRC 2 Suninen
Teemu lost the WRC 2 lead on SS7 when he hit a rock and punctured a tyre - but he's fought his way back into winning contention. "Today has been good. Luckily we found good speed after the puncture, which was my mistake. Tomorrow let's see. I think we have enough pace to fight for the win."

[dimviii]

Scandola wins another stage in WRC2.

didnt expect so much speed from him.Nice surprise.

[dimviii]

http://www.rallylink.it/cms15/images/diretteweb_2016/italia/riord_1_dmack.jpg
http://www.rallylink.it/cms15/images/diretteweb_2016/italia/riord_1_scandola_ok.jpg

[Doon]

That Scandola chap needs a WRC car next year (although there wont be one available), he was leading WRC2 last year too. Handy local driver.

[WUff1]

Seems all that praise did Paddon harm... it seems that todays drivers have as a goal to win against Ogier and VW and then they just feel complete when they achieve it and Mess things up afterwards... it is a shame.

I also believe he lost ground under his feet and got too self-confident.

[AL14]

That Scandola chap needs a WRC car next year (although there wont be one available), he was leading WRC2 last year too. Handy local driver.
Last year it was Andreucci.
He is the proof that the three faster italian drivers (I put Basso on the same level), should have deserved an international chance and they could have had a role in the pinnacle of the sport. It is too late for all of them, and it is a big shame.
Maybe I think this only because I am italian. But, at least in the latest years, it has never happened in any other country that a local driver of the rally who never partecipate to WRC2, was among the best of that category

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The lower road positions for Latvala & Neuville give them the least excuses ... if they dont do anything on the first two days, they never will.



As I said on Tuesday.

[dimviii]

Last year it was Andreucci.
He is the proof that the three faster italian drivers (I put Basso on the same level), should have deserved an international chance and they could have had a role in the pinnacle of the sport. It is too late for all of them, and it is a big shame.
Maybe I think this only because I am italian. But, at least in the latest years, it has never happened in any other country that a local driver of the rally who never partecipate to WRC2, was among the best of that category

Athanassoulas

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@HMSGOfficial confirmed @HaydenPaddon no restart in @Rally_d_Italia :(

[AL14]

Athanassoulas
Sorry greek people.

[dimviii]

I also believe he lost ground under his feet and got too self-confident.

dont judge him so early.Paddon definetely has the most potential from any other right now.He has speed at every rally(ok except asphalt) works hard,but definetely last step is the most difficult.We have to wait for sure.
Other guys are plenty of years at wrc level and cant win a single stage.

[dimviii]

Sorry greek people.

you dont have to be sorry,i am sure there will be more, that are fast at their country rally.

[dimviii]

Sébastien Loeb Racing Team

Quentin Giordano had to leave in the special 5th Rally of Sardinia. Quentin was in a good rhythm, being both wise and close to the Top 10. Unfortunately he ripped a wheel and damage is too important to leave in Rally 2. Everyone is disappointed, but there will be better days we will capitalize on the positive lessons.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

its just a shakedown and it took whole day for Ostberg to get there. We will see tomorrow who is fast and not.

So Ostberg ahead of Sordo, Paddon, Abbring (Hyundai factory cars), Tanak, Camilli (other Fords), only really beaten by Ogier & the clean road beneficiaries, JML/Neuville...
On a par with Mikkelsen (VW factory car).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkmmGRTWkAAGOxJ.jpg

[janvanvurpa]

Fast Eddie ol' bean, it's not "just road position"----they do have to press on some pedals and twitch the fingers at the right time too occasionally...eh wot?
And they're doing that better than 45 guys who they're sweeping the road for.

[Doon]

Oh yeh, sorry I'm an idiot. I was there and couldn't even remember it!

[Mk2 RS2000]

dont judge him so early.Paddon definetely has the most potential from any other right now.He has speed at every rally(ok except asphalt) works hard,but definetely last step is the most difficult.We have to wait for sure.
Other guys are plenty of years at wrc level and cant win a single stage.

Calm seas never produced a good sailor.

[dimviii]

His Hyundai i20 ran wide on the asphalt left-hander and swiped a tree, which ripped off a rear wheel and sent the car rolling end-over-end down a steep bank. It came to rest among trees and bushes 25 metres below the road.
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/june-2016/paddon-crash-sardinia/page/3615--12-12-.html

[hype]

Some photos from today. Hot... it was.

http://patrik-pangerl.com/wrc-rally-italia-sardegna-2016/WRC-Rally-Italia-Sardegna-2016-02-013-Ott Tänak-Ford Fiesta RS WRC.jpg

http://patrik-pangerl.com/wrc-rally-italia-sardegna-2016/WRC-Rally-Italia-Sardegna-2016-02-015-Martin Prokop-Ford Fiesta RS WRC.jpg

http://patrik-pangerl.com/wrc-rally-italia-sardegna-2016/WRC-Rally-Italia-Sardegna-2016-02-018-Nicolas Fuchs-Skoda Fabia R5.jpg

http://patrik-pangerl.com/wrc-rally-italia-sardegna-2016/WRC-Rally-Italia-Sardegna-2016-02-024-Atmosphere-Castelsardo.jpg

http://patrik-pangerl.com/wrc-rally-italia-sardegna-2016/WRC-Rally-Italia-Sardegna-2016-02-025-Sebastien Ogier-Volkswagen Polo WRC.jpg

[AL14]

Hayden Paddon

"No words....incredibly disappointed and sorry that I let everyone down again from another silly mistake. A serious rethink and reset needed to learn and come back stronger, but I'm the first to admit this isn't good enough. We will bounce back and I hope this is just a small dip we are going through to help us to be stronger for the future."

[er88]

dont judge him so early.Paddon definetely has the most potential from any other right now.He has speed at every rally(ok except asphalt) works hard,but definetely last step is the most difficult.We have to wait for sure.
Other guys are plenty of years at wrc level and cant win a single stage.
In terms of long term potential you could be right, but i cant help feel some are getting a bit carried away with Paddon. He could still be compared with the likes of Andreas and even Thierry. All on one win and are all a similar age (Neuville could be on 2 wins after this weekend despite his shocking last 12months). Just seems because the WRC is so desperate for someone to rival Ogier that all the pressure is on Paddon after his Argentina win and that's a bit unfair. He's binned it twice since that win now! Hopefully he does fulfill all his potential but he's still a few years away yet, but at least he has time on his side.

As for someone with the potential to fight Ogier consistently in the next few seasons, Meeke is the only hope imo. I think he's ahead of Paddon as a driver speed wise and he's better across all the surfaces. He's shown that with an older car that's not been properly developed for a few years now too..., so with a C3 that's going to be quality let's see what he can do.




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[dimviii]

@er88 about Paddon i was talking among the new drivers.Definetely i rate Meeke higher too.But Paddon has his time with him.

[RS]

Last year it was Andreucci.
He is the proof that the three faster italian drivers (I put Basso on the same level), should have deserved an international chance and they could have had a role in the pinnacle of the sport. It is too late for all of them, and it is a big shame.
Maybe I think this only because I am italian. But, at least in the latest years, it has never happened in any other country that a local driver of the rally who never partecipate to WRC2, was among the best of that category

Maybe Rossetti too. Unfortunate that at the peak of their careers the WRC was in a downturn, and the Punto wasn't good enough for them to compete consistently in IRC, plus Anton Alen was clogging up a seat there.

[stefanvv]

It's too early to judge Paddon. But he needs to get this sorted asap. I'm confident in him though.

[Zeakiwi]

That Scandola chap needs a WRC car next year (although there wont be one available), he was leading WRC2 last year too. Handy local driver.

Scandola's co-driver ?: G D'amore was the co-driver for G Galli.
Italy sells more Fords than France. Does Msport give any Italian drivers test runs?

[danon]

http://s5.postimg.org/wwre0bt1j/image.jpg

[eib1]

Michelin Motorsport ‏@Michelin_Sport
#tyre info
Ogier/Mikkelsen/Camilli/Sordo: 5 MICHELIN LTX Force S4
Ostberg: 4S+1H
Latvala/Neuville: 3S+2H
Abbring: 4H+1S

[raybak]

Abbring wins the first stage of the day.

[Mirek]

Scandola in obvious problems.

Edit:Lappi's splits appeared now.

[Mirek]

Scandola FL puncture. He said he hit a rock.

[dimviii]

Fuchs faster.

[EstWRC]

some better times for Tänak and Dmack today. Camilli very good also this morning. Ogier doesnt bother it seems and he has no reason too.

DMACK Tyres ‏@DMACK_Tyres 26m26 minutes ago Buddusò, Sardegna
There we go!!! Fastest time for DMACK and @OttTanak through SS11 - our third ever WRC scratch and second this year!

[dimviii]

Michelin Motorsport ‏@Michelin_Sport

#Tyre info:
Ogier/Mikkelsen/Sordo: 5 Michelin LTX Force S4
Camilli/Latvala/Neuville/Abbring: 5H
Ostberg: 2H+2S+1H #wrc #RallyItalia

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fast Eddie ol' bean, it's not "just road position"----they do have to press on some pedals and twitch the fingers at the right time too occasionally...eh wot?
And they're doing that better than 45 guys who they're sweeping the road for.

I never said it was 'only road position'.... but it is a big advantage here. Or are JML / Neuville suddenly a lot better drivers than Ogier...

No, and like Ogier, Ostberg isnt really competing with them.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Anyone elses WRC+ maps showing Argentina today !?? :(

[samWRC]

Anyone elses WRC+ maps showing Argentina today !?? :(

Yep, same problem here...

[wwbroe]

Mine is just working fine for the moment;)

[TWRC]

Ostberg's splits are looking good on this one

[EstWRC]

Finally a rally where Ostberg goes for a podium on pure pace, very good rally so far from him

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Finally a rally where Ostberg goes for a podium on pure pace, very good rally so far from him

Not the case, he has always been driving his best pace but the car hasn't been right until now.

He was never the slow driver you said.

"I'm doing what I've done all year, so I'm not surprised. When the car is working the times are there."

[dimviii]

so Mads start position wasnt a disadvantage?

[Mirek]

Not the case, he has always been driving his best pace but the car hasn't been right until now.

Do You really believe in what You write?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Do You really believe in what You write?

The car working properly does make a difference.