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pantealex
8th March 2016, 09:36
True, still Tidemand lost one minute driving FWD on one stage.
and Suninen has much weaker road conditions.
In my mind atm Evans and all 3 factory Skoda´s are ahead of Suninen.
pantealex
8th March 2016, 09:37
Just let's hope they won't chose only rallys without opponents. Would love to see him, Skodas and Elfyn fighting for points.
I believe Elfyn also have to choose...
and all Skoda boys will drive as much.
Simmi
11th March 2016, 11:33
Judging by Twitter yesterday Jose Antonio Suarez now has a full WRC2 7-round programme this year. Looks like Carlos Sainz was instrumental in making it happen.
Not sure which rounds exactly but the next one is Portugal.
pantealex
11th March 2016, 15:16
Judging by Twitter yesterday Jose Antonio Suarez now has a full WRC2 7-round programme this year. Looks like Carlos Sainz was instrumental in making it happen.
Not sure which rounds exactly but the next one is Portugal.
Orginal plan was: Sardinia, Germany, Corsica and of course Catalonia. But atleast 1 more now...
Simmi
11th March 2016, 15:26
Orginal plan was: Sardinia, Germany, Corsica and of course Catalonia. But atleast 1 more now...
Looking back the original plan was for 5 rounds - Monte, Portugal, Sardinia, Germany and Corsica.
http://www.peugeot-sport.com/en/2016-peugeot-rally-academy-rings-changes/
So now they should support him in Catalunya and somewhere else.
dimviii
16th March 2016, 18:02
Giordano testing 208 t 16 from Loeb Racing
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdrSiE4W4AAEZ8r.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdruXvcWwAA4cUR.jpg
dimviii
17th March 2016, 15:57
This weekend at the Regional Meuse rally, Sébastien Loeb Racing Team will contest the first rally of its history.
It's Quentin Giordano who will have the honor of opening this new chapter of the Alsatian team. Yesterday the Vosges pilot discovered his Peugeot 208 T16 for a first session debugging.
After this first round of the Coupe de France, Quentin will start the rally Epernay early April, before resuming its program in the WRC-2 with six innings Sardinia, Poland, Finland, Germany, Tour of Corsica and Great Britain.
http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/208-T16-de-Quentin-Giordano-768x480.jpg
http://www.rallye-sport.fr/208-t16-de-quentin-giordano/
dimviii
17th March 2016, 20:27
more photos from this nice livery
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdxLzAsVAAEugQP.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdxLzB1UsAAoBOY.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdxLzGJUMAATNF6.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdxLzKDVAAAI02V.jpg
Mirek
21st March 2016, 13:46
Presumably as a test Pontus Tidemand entered Rally Šumava, Czech championship.
Fast Eddie WRC
23rd March 2016, 19:10
M-Sport's Elfyn Evans WRC2 entry for Rally Argentina confirmed today ! :)
Mirek
7th April 2016, 23:39
Pontus Tidemand tested the R5 on Barum rally stage Žlutava (Halenkovice). Very spectacular, especially the infamous crest!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niCfDx3avZE
WRC2 to get it's own highlights show from Argentina onwards. About time too.
GigiGalliNo1
17th April 2016, 04:24
Finally!
N.O.T
17th April 2016, 06:11
waste of money and tv time for a dead championhip infested with nobodies.
leighton323
17th April 2016, 06:24
waste of money and tv time for a dead championhip infested with nobodies.
C'mon NOT. This is where the future WRC drivers come from. You want everyone to be the best but the best aren't just born from nothing. WRC2 has possibly some very good future WRC drivers in its championship. Sometimes you say some good things and bring this forum down to earth, but I vastly disagree with you on this and I think a lot of others on this Forum will too
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Andre Oliveira
18th April 2016, 21:22
Kopecky / Dresler today at Fafe stages: http://ewrc-results.com/foto.php?e=33555&t=Test-Skoda-Motorsport-Fafe-2016
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photos/test_skoda_motorsport_fafe_2016/pfi_4.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photos/test_skoda_motorsport_fafe_2016/pfi_2.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photos/test_skoda_motorsport_fafe_2016/pfi_3.jpg
Micke_VOC
21st April 2016, 22:32
Tidemand/Andersson tested in Portugal yesterday and today.
Some few pics here: https://www.facebook.com/PontusTidemand/posts/1290419430972803
Mirek
23rd April 2016, 12:11
Test Tidemand: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU1OlCku2J8
Test Kopecký: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QoyQJz5-Co
The cars seems to have sharper sound, doesn't it?
TWRC
23rd April 2016, 13:16
Test Tidemand: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU1OlCku2J8
Test Kopecký: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QoyQJz5-Co
The cars seems to have sharper sound, doesn't it?
Yes, and to me it sounds a lot like a Xsara WRC :D, especially on the Tidemand video.
dimviii
23rd April 2016, 13:57
The cars seems to have sharper sound, doesn't it?
yes its sounds differently,but if you watch carefully, the video plays a bit faster=sound change.
Rallyper
9th May 2016, 15:37
Some type of crowd funding or investment challenge is on for Emil Bergkvist. Saying he needs to drive this year in WRC2 and all possibilities for a seat in WRC in 2017. But still short of funding for full rest of season 2016. Have a look yourself at
https://www.facebook.com/EMIL-Bergkvist-514805148554356/
b3637853
17th May 2016, 11:22
Kajto will start in Rally Poland in Fiesta R5.
http://kajto.pl/en?i=1&t=news&n=721&news=rally_poland:_debut_of_kajetanowicz,_the_fia_ european_rally_champion,_in_the_fia_world_rally_ch ampionship
dimviii
17th May 2016, 17:48
nice,lets see how fast will be against wrc2 runners.
Anyone know whether the 30 minute WRC2 highlights programme we were promised actually exists and if so where and when it is screened?
pantealex
23rd May 2016, 09:26
after Portugal we have 41 different drivers who have started in WRC2 this year.
(Scandola in Sardinia will be 42)
EstWRC
1st June 2016, 21:20
Some info about this Kruuda/Pärn swap. Pärn's father says that you have to ask Dmack about it. Yesterday Glenn Patterson didnt comment on this and said that there will be some more info on friday. But today Patterson has made a comment to estonian newspaper that Kruuda will do Sardinia and maybe two more rounds because they have new gravel tyres out and they believe that he has the speed to help to develop them further.
Basically they did the same thing as Red Bull did with Kvyat/Verstappen :p
Co-driven
1st June 2016, 22:37
Was there any special reason for Parn running with Jarveoja in Portugal?
James as his co-codriver last season, right?
EstWRC
2nd June 2016, 14:18
The reason was that Kruuda said that he will skip this season and then Pärn took his co-driver but all has changed now. Cormack confirms today that Kruuda will do Sardinia, Poland and Finland and the reason for this is that Pärn was just slow.
Simmi
2nd June 2016, 18:40
The reason was that Kruuda said that he will skip this season and then Pärn took his co-driver but all has changed now. Cormack confirms today that Kruuda will do Sardinia, Poland and Finland and the reason for this is that Pärn was just slow.
Yikes. I guess Dmack have finally run out of patience with Parn then.
pantealex
21st June 2016, 08:37
Ptaszek is "co-driver" in NesteRallyFinland (not a mistake in entries, he was driver before yesterday)
Reason: max number of events in WRC2 is 7 and he is driving 13 (missed Portugal), so probably he is listed as co-driver in 6 events.
and yes according to rules co-driver can drive but the one who is listed as driver will get drivers points. Rendina did same stunt previous year.
It will be interesting to see does he have more drivers or co-drivers points at end of year (and of course wise wersa for Szczepaniak)
Simmi
21st June 2016, 18:55
Ptaszek is "co-driver" in NesteRallyFinland (not a mistake in entries, he was driver before yesterday)
Reason: max number of events in WRC2 is 7 and he is driving 13 (missed Portugal), so probably he is listed as co-driver in 6 events.
and yes according to rules co-driver can drive but the one who is listed as driver will get drivers points. Rendina did same stunt previous year.
It will be interesting to see does he have more drivers or co-drivers points at end of year (and of course wise wersa for Szczepaniak)
Hard to see the point of this tactic? Surely he can just enter the rally without registering for WRC2 if he wants to gain experience of the event?
dupanton
21st June 2016, 19:34
Hard to see the point of this tactic? Surely he can just enter the rally without registering for WRC2 if he wants to gain experience of the event?
Taking points away from others? :)
br21
21st June 2016, 20:15
I think main idea is when you're entered into WRC2 you have decent starting position, otherwise you drive after all priority drivers (incl 2WD cups) and it's not changing during the event, even if you're high in general classification - always as non registered driver you're behind priority/registered.
Is it 6 best scores out of 7 count in WRC2?
It's looking difficult for Lappi now.. and I think Kopecky will only get 6 events instead of promised seven?
Sulland
11th July 2016, 09:38
Will be interessting to see Henning fight with the youngsters in WRC2!
Not sure if he continues with Ford or he will choose to rent a Skoda, that Pontus has success with?
Simmi
11th July 2016, 10:00
Will be interessting to see Henning fight with the youngsters in WRC2!
Not sure if he continues with Ford or he will choose to rent a Skoda, that Pontus has success with?
Do we know if Finland is a one-off while he tries to push for an updated spec WRC? Or a deliberate step to R5 level?
Sulland
11th July 2016, 15:30
Not sure, but he struggles to match the tempo of the top WRC cars, as he used to.
May be several reasons for that, but he will have a more level playing field in a Fiesta Evo. Not sure where the car is coming from, but www.norsk-rally.com says it will be a Fiesta, hopefully an Evo.
Maybe he is renting it from MSport.
Rallyper
11th July 2016, 18:14
Not sure, but he struggles to match the tempo of the top WRC cars, as he used to.
May be several reasons for that, but he will have a more level playing field in a Fiesta Evo. Not sure where the car is coming from, but www.norsk-rally.com says it will be a Fiesta, hopefully an Evo.
Maybe he is renting it from MSport.
Or from Adapta WRT.
Simmi
21st August 2016, 20:19
So after Germany here is how it stands - http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc-2/results/championship/drivers/page/537-256---.html
I've enjoyed watching the title battle this year - especially with four guys possibly in the mix for WRC drives.
With China now off the table it's one less option for everyone. Do we know any more confirmed rounds for the top guys? It is definitely a chess match.
All the guys have made at least one mistake. They've also all had fantastic performances during their non-WRC2-scoring rounds. So it's a very interesting battle.
Looks like Suninen still holds the advantage - but who do people think will win the title?
Rally Power
21st August 2016, 21:21
Lappi!
Mirek
21st August 2016, 22:29
I think that this was the first time Lappi did everything well on an asphalt event. So far he nearly always crashed and when then alwas in right-hander (as Hartusvuori found).
dimviii
21st August 2016, 22:43
I think that this was the first time Lappi did everything well on an asphalt event. So far he nearly always crashed and when then alwas in right-hander (as Hartusvuori found).
yeap after Kopeckys delay,had easy job with Kremer.Of course well deserved win.
AL14
22nd August 2016, 00:35
Who concerns me is Tidemand. He is becoming an eternal promise.
In Italy we have a say similar to this: "And also this year we will win next year".
RS
22nd August 2016, 05:46
Who concerns me is Tidemand. He is becoming an eternal promise.
In Italy we have a say similar to this: "And also this year we will win next year".
He did a good job in Germany. Unfortunately it doesn't count towards the championship because of the weird points system.
Mirek
22nd August 2016, 10:29
I'm wondering which rally (if some at all) will Kopecký drive inestead of canceled China...
dimviii
22nd August 2016, 12:33
Teemu / Rallirinki @HartusvuoriWRC
Ο χρήστης Teemu / Rallirinki έκανε Retweet RallyingUK
Even if Evans wins his last event, Suninen can be 2 x 3rd to be the champ.#WRC2 title is decided between the Finns.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqdRW1RWAAANoPR.jpg
RS
29th August 2016, 08:23
I'm wondering which rally (if some at all) will Kopecký drive inestead of canceled China...
I presume he will go to Corsica, Spain and GB. I suspect if a Skoda driver has wrapped up the title by GB then he will not do a seventh round. Maybe the only other option is for him to borrow one of the APRC Fabias and enter Australia?
RS
3rd October 2016, 09:05
Reading Skoda's post event press release, they still mention Lappi as a works driver and don't seem to rule out the possibility of further rounds for all their guys.. I suppose they will see how it goes in Spain next week.
Mirek
3rd October 2016, 10:48
They shall still try to fight for the title. For having three crews it's been heading towards a kind of failure...
Simmi
3rd October 2016, 12:41
Well either way they will have needed to put in their entries for Wales before Corsica. So we'll see when the list comes out. They don't have the luxury of being able to wait, although there's nothing to stop them withdrawing them like they did last year from memory.
RS
3rd October 2016, 14:17
Skoda were going to go to China so maybe they would do Australia?
When there are only seven events and there are strong drivers like Evans or Sunninen one puncture or accident can cost you big.
RS
4th October 2016, 14:52
Lappi testing Fabia R5 on mud today, so i guess he's in for GB.
Rallyper
9th October 2016, 09:46
Lucky to WRC2 in Ford would be my wish. What do you say Malcolm?
nafpaktos
9th October 2016, 12:40
No problem i can give him a car.I suppose you will pay for the expenses,right?
pantealex
17th October 2016, 09:51
if Suninen is 3rd in Wales, he and Evans will have exactly same score 120p (25+25+25+18+15+12 for both)
How they will decide which one is "better" ?
AL14
17th October 2016, 10:08
if Suninen is 3rd in Wales, he and Evans will have exactly same score 120p (25+25+25+18+15+12 for both)
How they will decide which one is "better" ?
Came here to make the exact same question :D
Could it be that they will count points where the two drivers were one against the other? In that case Suninen would win having arrived ahaed of Evans in Poland and Finland. But I don't know if this is an actual rule.
Simmi
17th October 2016, 10:24
Same rule as in the full WRC:
For drawing up the final classification of a Championship, the rule for deciding between drivers and codrivers
who have scored exactly the same points total shall be:
10.1.1 According to the greater number of first places, then second places, then third places, etc.,
achieved in the final classifications on their respective Championship, counting only those rallies which
have served to make up their points total;
10.1.2 According to the greater number of highest places achieved in the final classifications on their
respective Championship, counting only those rallies in which each of the drivers and co-drivers concerned
have taken part, one 11th place being worth more than any number of 12th places, one 12th place being
worth more than any number of 13rd places, and so on.
10.1.3 In the event of a further tie, the FIA itself will decide the winner and decide between any other
tying drivers and co-drivers, on the basis of whatever other considerations it thinks appropriate.
So reading that I take it to mean that AL14 is correct - and that it would take into account their 'face-off' scores effectively. I think?
For sure the FIA are correct to change the rules next year and make sure everyone faces off at least 3 times.
AL14
17th October 2016, 13:06
Same rule as in the full WRC:
So reading that I take it to mean that AL14 is correct - and that it would take into account their 'face-off' scores effectively. I think?
For sure the FIA are correct to change the rules next year and make sure everyone faces off at least 3 times.
Thanks for checking the rules.
Yes they should face off more. Evans and Suninen drove one against the other only two times....
RS
17th October 2016, 14:40
Three events that everyone has to drive is a step forward, but I would rather see FIA name, let's say, eight 'WRC2' events and have everybody allowed to enter all eight, but only six best scores count.
The current system is just too messy.. as well as the problem of competitiors not facing each other, you get weird anomalies like Tidemand in Germany who scored a good result but couldn't count it because he hadn't nominated the event beforehand.
Simmi
17th October 2016, 16:00
Certainly it is not let's say 'optimal' at the moment. But I quite like how there is always a WRC2 battle at every event as it gives fans something else to concentrate on, especially on the long-haul rounds or if the main WRC battle is a bit boring.
Clearly there are strong levels of interest in the championship so I think maybe it's best not to shake things up too radically.? Flexibility can be good for privateers. With Hyundai coming in and Toyota following soon with R5 I think it's in a good place competition-wise.
Again the biggest problem for me comes back to the coverage. Right now the amount of WRC2 screen time is as low as it's ever been. Certainly nothing has been done this year to improve things. Not a great platform for the future top WRC drivers. I keep coming back to it but WRX has this all sorted out and great coverage for the Euro and support championships. We know all this footage is being shot by WRC cameramen. They clearly don't have the time or space in the TV programme to show much WRC2. Fine.
They should put out a dedicated 45min edit on YouTube on the Wednesday after each rally. Or at the VERY least do more on social media with these guys. When was the last time you saw Teemu Suninen or Lappi interviewed on main WRC coverage?
RS
17th October 2016, 17:40
With Hyundai coming in and Toyota following soon with R5 I think it's in a good place competition-wise.
Yes and no.. there are some very good drivers in WRC2 this year, but on the other hand even in Spain, the works Skoda drivers finished 25 minutes ahead of the third place.
You have a good point on the media coverage.. terrible for sponsors and manufacturers. The YouTube clips are just the same as what they show on the tv. Now they only seem to show the powerstage live there is even less chance to see the WRC2 crews.
Rallyper
17th October 2016, 19:26
.... Emil B ....???
RS
17th October 2016, 19:34
.... Emil B ....???
What about him?
cali
17th October 2016, 20:07
What about him?
... not mentioned by Per for a long time, he needed him in the forum limelight again :P
EightGear
17th October 2016, 20:17
Who is he? Never heard of him.
dimviii
17th October 2016, 20:36
Who is he? Never heard of him.
have you got Rallyper at ignore list? http://www.petrolheads.gr/images/smilies/oldforum/protest.gif
pantealex
18th October 2016, 08:09
.... Emil B ....???
Has lost to Veiby everytime. (2xSweden, Finland even that Veiby drove with 2wd car)
In the beginning of year Per was sure that Emil will beat Suninen...
Mirek
18th October 2016, 08:16
I actually still believe Bergkvist has the potential but it requires true effort put in him. I mean serious real program with a lot of testing, training and quality team which allows him to concentrate fully on driving. I know that all that basically means a works team but in this moment I feel like he was kind of unlucky and may end forgotten like some other once rising stars.
RS
18th October 2016, 09:14
Bergkvist has had a poor year, especially if you look at what Sirmacis achieved in ERC this year.
But I don't think it's bad luck. That car is less reliable and slower than the other R5s, it was never going to end well.
I wish him well in finding a better programme next year.
Rallyper
18th October 2016, 10:33
I actually still believe Bergkvist has the potential but it requires true effort put in him. I mean serious real program with a lot of testing, training and quality team which allows him to concentrate fully on driving. I know that all that basically means a works team but in this moment I feel like he was kind of unlucky and may end forgotten like some other once rising stars.
@Pantealex For sure Emil hasn´t had the backup like Veiby just driving anywhere and anytime as he wish. Daddy pays. Veiby is good but he has driven way more rallies than most of his fellow competitors. And in good cars, well prepared. And that´s the difference as we all know.
Emils´choices wasn´t many or even just one. The one he took. And we all knew from the start where it should end and it did.
Ruling him out like a kind of one hit wonder or what some of you guys says, just says how short your memories are.
He was ERC3 champion in 2015.
He deserves better than this maybe outcome.
RS
18th October 2016, 14:08
Did Emil's team find some sponsorship and offer him the drive or did he find some sponsorship and go shopping for a team?
Didn't Eurosport offer him some support to stay in ERC too?
Rallyper
18th October 2016, 16:08
I think he paid the money he funded but the less money you have to spend the worse quality on team you get. Don´t heard anything about ERC offering anything except his drive in Valais after ERC win.
Sub_Skoda
18th October 2016, 18:03
Did you know why Maciek Szczepaniak is listed as driver and Hubert Ptaszek is listed as codriver??
It's not the first time i see that but i don't understand why.
Andre Oliveira
18th October 2016, 18:11
Cause the limit of WRC2 events. With that "situation" he can participate under WRC2 running order.
Andre Oliveira
18th October 2016, 18:20
So, if Suninen 1st or 2nd in Wales, champion. If 3rd or lower, Evans.
dupanton
18th October 2016, 19:10
So, if Suninen 1st or 2nd in Wales, champion. If 3rd or lower, Evans.
Not Exactly:
If Suninen wins, he is champion
If Suninen is 2nd and Lappi or Kopecky wins, it will depend on result of Lappi/Kopecky in Australia if they will pass Suninen or not.
If Suninen is 3th or lower, Evans is only champion if Lappi and Kopecky don't finish in the top 2. Otherwise the fight continue in Australia.
dodge33cymru
18th October 2016, 19:32
Did you know why Maciek Szczepaniak is listed as driver and Hubert Ptaszek is listed as codriver??
It's not the first time i see that but i don't understand why.
Ohhh, that's clever!
I guess it's too late to see Craig Parry's name appear as a driver...?
Andre Oliveira
18th October 2016, 20:20
Yes. Too late, but some GB WRC2 competitors can help
pantealex
19th October 2016, 08:18
Not Exactly:
If Suninen wins, he is champion
If Suninen is 2nd and Lappi or Kopecky wins, it will depend on result of Lappi/Kopecky in Australia if they will pass Suninen or not.
If Suninen is 3th or lower, Evans is only champion if Lappi and Kopecky don't finish in the top 2. Otherwise the fight continue in Australia.
If Suninen is 3rd, he beats Evans. Otherwise correct.
liposh
19th October 2016, 10:28
Pantealex: IMHO If Suninen is 3rd it is TIE and Evans will be champion because he was 14th in Portugal and Suninen was 16th. Am I right? Anybody?
dupanton
19th October 2016, 10:34
Pantealex: IMHO If Suninen is 3rd it is TIE and Evans will be champion because he was 14th in Portugal and Suninen was 16th. Am I right? Anybody?
That is how I see it too... But the rules for ties are not clear for me...
AL14
19th October 2016, 10:45
Pantealex: IMHO If Suninen is 3rd it is TIE and Evans will be champion because he was 14th in Portugal and Suninen was 16th. Am I right? Anybody?
But Suninen was ahaed of Evans in both Poland and Finland. So Suninen will be champion.
Simmi
19th October 2016, 10:45
Pantealex: IMHO If Suninen is 3rd it is TIE and Evans will be champion because he was 14th in Portugal and Suninen was 16th. Am I right? Anybody?
10.1.2 According to the greater number of highest places achieved in the final classifications on their respective Championship, counting only those rallies in which each of the drivers and co-drivers concerned have taken part, one 11th place being worth more than any number of 12th places, one 12th place being worth more than any number of 13rd places, and so on.
In the event of a tie I take this rule to mean that you factor in more than one result (greater number of highest places). So we need to look at the WRC2 classifications on rallies in which they both took part.
Portugal: Evans 14th // Suninen 16th
Poland: Evans 2nd // Suninen 1st
Finland: Evans 3rd // Suninen 2nd
So Suninen has the greater number of highest places (2), plus his best highest place (when head to head with Evans) is higher (1st).
I'll admit the wording is quite vague. Most rulebooks seem to be. But this is my best interpretation...
tommeke_B
19th October 2016, 10:55
Wouldn't it be nice to have a WRC2 championship where competitors drive directly against each other in stead of avoiding each other for half of the season...
liposh
19th October 2016, 11:01
Anyway the possibility of tie is quite high and if this happen and Suninen would finally be champion I would laugh...well , at least until beginning of next season. :D
dupanton
19th October 2016, 11:53
10.1.2 According to the greater number of highest places achieved in the final classifications on their respective Championship, counting only those rallies in which each of the drivers and co-drivers concerned have taken part, one 11th place being worth more than any number of 12th places, one 12th place being worth more than any number of 13rd places, and so on.
In the event of a tie I take this rule to mean that you factor in more than one result (greater number of highest places). So we need to look at the WRC2 classifications on rallies in which they both took part.
Portugal: Evans 14th // Suninen 16th
Poland: Evans 2nd // Suninen 1st
Finland: Evans 3rd // Suninen 2nd
So Suninen has the greater number of highest places (2), plus his best highest place (when head to head with Evans) is higher (1st).
I'll admit the wording is quite vague. Most rulebooks seem to be. But this is my best interpretation...
Yes but
First rule:
10.1.1 According to the greater number of first places, then second places, then third places, etc.,
achieved in the final classifications on their respective Championship, counting only those rallies which
have served to make up their points total;
Do they mean the 7 rallies of which 6 results counted? Or only the 6 in which they score points? If it is 7, the 14th place of Evans (vs 16th for Suninen) will make him champion...
Franky
19th October 2016, 12:05
Simmi, why have you brought up Portugal where neither of them had nominated it as their WRC2 round?
If Suninen comes third in Wales, then they have finished exactly the same number of times first, second, third and fourth. What do they compare next? Stage wins?
Simmi
19th October 2016, 12:25
Simmi, why have you brought up Portugal where neither of them had nominated it as their WRC2 round?
If Suninen comes third in Wales, then they have finished exactly the same number of times first, second, third and fourth. What do they compare next? Stage wins?
Eh? Check the entry list. They both nominated it as a WRC2 round. It will just end up as their dropped score.
All the rules are posted within the thread. Just nobody here quite knows how to interpret them.
liposh
19th October 2016, 12:28
Dupanton: Well I am little bit lost, and honestly after all of this: https://youtu.be/M68GeL8PafE?t=1m25s
Franky: They both had nominated Portugal as their WRC2 round. So Simmi´s point is right.
Franky
19th October 2016, 12:45
Ok, my bad. Just looked at the "very easy to understand" WRC2 championship standings results on wrc.com
In that case I'd imagine that Evans would win it.
pantealex
19th October 2016, 15:58
if they count only 6 best results then I see no reason why 7th result would matter.
In my mind if they both have (25+25+25+18+15+12=120)
Both should be Champions!
bluuford
19th October 2016, 18:08
Yes but
First rule:
10.1.1 According to the greater number of first places, then second places, then third places, etc.,
achieved in the final classifications on their respective Championship, counting only those rallies which
have served to make up their points total;
Do they mean the 7 rallies of which 6 results counted? Or only the 6 in which they score points? If it is 7, the 14th place of Evans (vs 16th for Suninen) will make him champion...
In WRC there was a rule than when everything is equal then there is tie breaker. And it is very simple, who is faster on the first stage of the year;)
Andre Oliveira
19th October 2016, 18:19
Suninen was not in WRC field in Monte-Carlo
itix
19th October 2016, 20:00
https://www.rally.it/2016/10/brc-nel-wrc
Unless my italian has gone to shit, BRC are thinking of competing in WRC2 in -17. Unless I read it wrong they say they can't use their GPL converted Fiesta R5 that they were using in CIR (which would make sense since the WRC use standard fuels etc).
Any proper italian here (AL14 per chance?) that can shed some light on this?
Andre Oliveira
19th October 2016, 20:34
I remember Basso only used GPL car in first 3 events this season, then back to Benzina ;)
Mirek
19th October 2016, 21:26
Campedelli continued with the GPL car and he wasn't slow at all.
Andre Oliveira
19th October 2016, 21:55
No :) i think they remove some weight this year. Last year the GPL kit is heavier
focus206
19th October 2016, 22:21
https://www.rally.it/2016/10/brc-nel-wrc
Unless my italian has gone to shit, BRC are thinking of competing in WRC2 in -17. Unless I read it wrong they say they can't use their GPL converted Fiesta R5 that they were using in CIR (which would make sense since the WRC use standard fuels etc).
Any proper italian here (AL14 per chance?) that can shed some light on this?
What you say is correct, but BRC in WRC2 is more like a wish of who wrote the article, rather than a rumor.
AL14
19th October 2016, 22:36
https://www.rally.it/2016/10/brc-nel-wrc
Unless my italian has gone to shit, BRC are thinking of competing in WRC2 in -17. Unless I read it wrong they say they can't use their GPL converted Fiesta R5 that they were using in CIR (which would make sense since the WRC use standard fuels etc).
Any proper italian here (AL14 per chance?) that can shed some light on this?
It's funny cause I write for that website.
Yes I can confirm the rumor 100% but really it is only a "proper" rumor. Nothing that we can confirm but voices we've heard. I think it would not be correct for me to say more. My personal opinion is that It is a bit difficult that it will actually happen but not impossible, especially since we heard that rumor.
Basso's Fiesta is with fuel. Campedelli's uses GPL.
:)
Sub_Skoda
20th October 2016, 13:39
Ohhh, that's clever!
I guess it's too late to see Craig Parry's name appear as a driver...?
Clever, but i don't know why they did it. Maybe Hubert loses his driver licence...
Mirek
20th October 2016, 14:01
Clever, but i don't know why they did it. Maybe Hubert loses his driver licence...
No, he simply wanted to do all WRC rounds as a part of WRC2 field.
PLuto
20th October 2016, 16:16
No, he simply wanted to do all WRC rounds as a part of WRC2 field.
Because without registration you are nobody in WRC...
Sub_Skoda
20th October 2016, 17:34
No, he simply wanted to do all WRC rounds as a part of WRC2 field.
And he can't do it as a driver ??
pantealex
20th October 2016, 17:41
And he can't do it as a driver ??
You can only drive 7 events in WRC2
Sub_Skoda
20th October 2016, 18:23
You can only drive 7 events in WRC2
Ok, i believed that you can only nominate 7 rounds but run all the rounds. Thanks!
RS
20th October 2016, 18:57
And he can't do it as a driver ??
He still drives, just the co-driver is on the entry list as the driver.
Simmi
20th October 2016, 19:28
Thinking of guys who ran pretty much all the rounds last year - what happened to Yuriii Protasov?
Mirek
20th October 2016, 20:07
Since Škoda entered Lappi and Kopecký to Australia where nobody fast except Fuchs goes, we can safely guess one of the Škoda guys will take a victory there. It's quite sure that who is going to win Australia will be determined already in Wales...
Andre Oliveira
20th October 2016, 20:49
Mechanical failures can happen
Mirek
20th October 2016, 20:53
Of course but hardly for both.
Walach
21st October 2016, 09:02
I just hope that this time it won't be Kopecky slowing down on purpose just to see Lappi crash his title hopes...
pantealex
21st October 2016, 09:37
Ok, i believed that you can only nominate 7 rounds but run all the rounds. Thanks!
That is the case, but Ptaszek wanted to run inside WRC2 all events. Ofcourse you can enter all rallies you want.
Mirek
21st October 2016, 09:39
Yes but as non-registered You are seeded very far down the field and You loose other advantages of registered crews (service park, media etc.).
AL14
24th November 2016, 11:28
The rumours about Orange1 (the sponsor that participated in CIR with Campedelli at BRC team, the same of Basso) going to WRC2 with an italian drivers are no more rumours.
Armando Donazzan, presiden of Orange1 Holding confirmed in this interview that they are working on it.
https://www.rally.it/2016/11/donazzan-orange1-obiettivo-vincere
(if you don't care about the rest, go to the 6th question). :)
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