Rally Wrc Mexicooo 2016

[jbmarcus21]

1st news from road program Mexico !
http://planetemarcus.com/saison-wrc/wrc-rallye-mexique-2016/

El Chocolate = 60kms
Guanajuato = 80kms !!!

[Quad]

El Chocolate = 60kms
Guanajuato = 80kms !!!

sorry, but this is just stupid

maybe already lets do 180km stage ?.... :confused:

[GigiGalliNo1]

mmmmm.... Chocolate....

[N.O.T]

Wow... although it is on the last day and with two 60kms stages before everything will be more or less in place with no big push everything can happen.

[Co-driven]

80km stage??

I'm sorry, but I think some cars can't even cover that whole distance without a refuel.

[janvanvurpa]

60km SS!!

80km SS!!

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--ktZFOqbM--/iayznnnhyiag0gt9crmr.jpg

[SubaruNorway]

80km stage??

I'm sorry, but I think some cars can't even cover that whole distance without a refuel.

What is the fuel consumptions of today's WRC?

[rayh_mx]

http://www.rallymexico.com/img/logo_thumb16.png
Here we Go!!! Mexicooouuu

[rayh_mx]

Last year, on Sunday, SS without refueling 75.66 km in 3 stages and 67.12 liaison, almost 140 kms

[Gregor-y]

Toss them at the end and as the power stage and I'll be interested.

[Co-driven]

What is the fuel consumptions of today's WRC?

I wasn't thinking only about WRC cars. I was thinking more about Group N and 2wd cars (although they aren't a big number in Mexico).

[dimviii]

there are 80-100 litres fueltanks for group N cars too.


http://www.merin.it/en/speciali.php

[rayh_mx]

Saturday last year between SS 12 and 14 there were refueling areas RZ9 and Rz10 with 82 km of (3) SS and 73.09 of liaison

One stage of 80 kms... possible without refuel

[rayh_mx]

Maps, program, itinerary and Rally guide http://www.rallymexico.com/competitors/documents/

[b3637853]

A lot of these mickey-mouse stages. If I counted correctly 10 stages are short spectators ones.
And a 80k on Sunday, wow this should be the one where final standings will be formed.

[Mirek]

What is the fuel consumptions of today's WRC?

I think that it's a lot less than with 2.0 WRC cars. I think around 60-80 litres/100km (could be less in Mexico due to low air pressure?). Gr.N consumption on stage may be now bigger than WRC, is it possible Dimitris?

[dimviii]

we dont know the consuption of 1,6 wrc cars,but they will not be much difference from grN cars.

[GigiGalliNo1]

As a foreigner, looks like a good compact rally close to home base in Leon... it is SAFE yes?

NO chance of car hi-jackings? Or kidnappings?!

[EightGear]

Watch out for the occasional stone on you windshield.

[rayh_mx]

As a foreigner, looks like a good compact rally close to home base in Leon... it is SAFE yes?

NO chance of car hi-jackings? Or kidnappings?!

Are you Serious? :pimp:

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

Pseudo-Safari Rally Mexico.. :P

[janvanvurpa]

we dont know the consuption of 1,6 wrc cars,but they will not be much difference from grN cars.

Power is power...XXX hp costs LLL liters of fuel and AAAliters of air...

[tommeke_B]

we dont know the consuption of 1,6 wrc cars,but they will not be much difference from grN cars.

Around 65l/100km.

[dimviii]

Power is power...XXX hp costs LLL liters of fuel and AAAliters of air...

yes thats right,thats why i said that they must be close,due to similar power.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Two Australians were murdered in the last week, van burnt with their bodies inside. Yes I'm serious.

[GigiGalliNo1]

But of course, this was about 400kms north of Leon

[N.O.T]

You should not try that hard... especially when results are not there.

[rayh_mx]

To see Gigi, the reality in Mexico and in many countries is that people die because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time, but talk about violence is widespread everywhere in this country and it is a nightmare to live here is a mistake and I consider it far from reality.

What happened recently in France? and we will not do a campaign to discredit against the Gauls because it was a disgrace. And above all, were people with strange ideas. (I am not to judge them but i not share all what they do, by the way)

Leon and the surrounding area is a people that "in general" treats you well, no matter who and how you are, so we need to remove these alarms

[GigiGalliNo1]

Thank you rayh_mx

I appreciate that. I don't have issues traveling to Europe even though what has happened lately but Mexico is new territory. I've spoken to a media member of media and colleagues that have been to Mexico. Safe as can be.

[rayh_mx]

Gigi, if you or somebody else want to come to Mexico on March don't doubt contact me, sure i can give some advices about Guanajuato, León or Silao to see this Rally.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Thank you :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

TiTanak rescue team ready for next year...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWYuDejVAAAMQnD.jpg

[jbmarcus21]

Google Earth Map Mexico http://goo.gl/mf33zG

[rayh_mx]

Martin Prokop confirmed his presence in the Corona Rally Guanajuato

[rayh_mx]

Manufacturer Entries (http://www.fia.com/news/wrc-list-manufacturer-entries-rally-mexico)

I hope that today will be published the list of all the competitors

[dimviii]

Suninen fabia from TGardemaister

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbM81WYUUAAzlKB.jpg

[Andre Oliveira]

Entry list: http://ewrc-results.com/startlist.php?e=27501

Interesting see Nasser with Fiesta R5 :)

[dimviii]

Entry list: http://ewrc-results.com/startlist.php?e=27501

Interesting see Nasser with Fiesta R5 :)

maybe first hand info about how good it is.

[Munkvy]

Someone said he had bought a bunch of Fabia's, but no idea if that is true?

Quick look on ewrc-results shows he has driven two different ones so far? And that one failed scrutineering at TipCars Pražský Rallysprint 2015 and hasn't entered anything since?

[Mirek]

Quick look on ewrc-results shows he has driven two different ones so far? And that one failed scrutineering at TipCars Pražský Rallysprint 2015 and hasn't entered anything since?

The one which failed scrutineering was from Wevers Sport and the reason was that that there were forbidden number plates for use in Czech republic (the car had Czech export number plates which are used only for export and can not be used for anything at home).

[Andre Oliveira]

We only know that chassis 28. The other as Mirek said, it is Wevers unit.

I am really interested on his comments about Fiesta R5. I think that "test" will be important to him in order to choose the car.

[dimviii]

I am really interested on his comments about Fiesta R5. I think that "test" will be important to him in order to choose the car.

me too,he has drive fabia,now fiesta evo,so he will choose the faster for the rest of the year,as cost problems are absent.

[RS]

I thought Lappi was going to Mexico?

[Munkvy]

The one which failed scrutineering was from Wevers Sport and the reason was that that there were forbidden number plates for use in Czech republic (the car had Czech export number plates which are used only for export and can not be used for anything at home).
Interesting, thanks for the explanation! In NZ I do some scrutineering for national level events, so always interesting to hear what problems occur in different parts of the world.

[rayh_mx]

Entry list in PFD from Rally Mexico Site

Entry List (http://www.rallymexico.com/files/rep/EntriesMx16-V2A.pdf)

[pantealex]

Guerra was #82, is now #22 and P1

[rayh_mx]

Guerra was #82, is now #22 and P1

and it changed again, now it is the # 16

Entry List approved by the FIA (http://www.rallymexico.com/files/rep/EntriesMx16-V3A.pdf)

And... Entry List approved by the FIA V4 (http://www.rallymexico.com/files/rep/EntriesMx16-V4A.pdf)

[CWJ]

Anybody @Guanajuato street stage for a drink outside Hotel Luna :-?

[dimviii]

The reigning WRC 2 champion had planned to start his 2016 WRC 2 campaign in Mexico, but pulled his Skoda Fabia R5 entry at the last moment this week to focus on his parallel career as a world-class sport shooter.

from wrc.com

[SubaruNorway]

The reigning WRC 2 champion had planned to start his 2016 WRC 2 campaign in Mexico, but pulled his Skoda Fabia R5 entry at the last moment this week to focus on his parallel career as a world-class sport shooter.

from wrc.com

So there wasn't a different reason to this then...

[GigiGalliNo1]

Thought he was going to be in a R5 Fiesta in Mexico anyways?!

WRC2 round open to anyone for the win? My bets on Al-Kuwari

[rp]

Thought he was going to be in a R5 Fiesta in Mexico anyways?!

WRC2 round open to anyone for the win? My bets on Al-Kuwari

Will be easy job for Teemu Suninen!

[J4MIE]

I thought I read that Nasser was only doing the Middle East championship this year and concentrating on the Olympics? So doesn't surprise me that he isn't there.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcSg4JUXIAAOrCp.jpg
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[GigiGalliNo1]

One more flight and a few hours away from being in Leon! :D

[Lundefaret]

So: Any predictions for the 80 km stage?

[MartijnS]

That it will be boring for the spectators that are on the stage. You really see the guys taking it easy, already the last years on longer stages in Italy for example.

[AL14]

So: Any predictions for the 80 km stage?
I think Ogier will give around 30 seconds to the second placed.

[EstWRC]

Ogier will win. Latvala with a puncture. Sordo also. Tänak with 4 spare tires in the boot. Ostberg second.

[Sulland]

So: Any predictions for the 80 km stage?

For once they need to think tactics and endurance, and not only flat out. And some of us like that flavour into the WRC circus!

[Mirek]

I'm quite sure You wouldn't like to stand at the road on this stage...

[tommeke_B]

Frankly, I must disagree here. I was in Sardinia '14 near the finish of the very long (59,6 or so km) stage. What we've seen was very spectacular, drivers were getting near the finish and they could push all the way as there was no need to save tyres anymore. Same can be seen for example on Panzerplatte when they're going towards the end of the stage. Of course that's only towards the finish, being anywhere near the start or halfway is going to be less exciting, unless you find some very special place. Multiple length of stage means multiple chance of cancellation for any reason... That's what we unfortunately had in Sardinia after Al-Rahji went off.

[Mirek]

Tom, You don't have only 25 cars running 80 km long stage or so on Sardinia. I can safely estimate that in Mexico there will be huge gaps between cars and many would not come at all. Altogether it will be very boring show.

Also don't forget to add the altitude. You can't push that hard in such altitude due to brake heating, low power and possible fuel boiling issues. The longer the stage the bigger problems. Works drivers will cope with that but the rest will suffer a lot.

The risk of cancelation is there for sure as well. Big risk.

[stefanvv]

So: Any predictions for the 80 km stage?

fight for the win if any will be over after it

[Munkvy]

It is a shame about the entry numbers, how does Mexico afford to keep running the event?

[rayh_mx]

It is a shame about the entry numbers, how does Mexico afford to keep running the event?

Sponsors

Including Guanajuato State Goverment
Sponsors (http://www.rallymexico.com/participa/patrocinadores)

[dimviii]

Mads Østberg ‏@MadsOstberg

Over 300km recce today! It's like doing recce for a whole rally in 1 day. We have a headache. Need to stop for a motivational ice cream ����

[rayh_mx]

One more flight and a few hours away from being in Leon! :D

What plans do you have? Are you going to climb the mountain to see some stage?

[KiwiWRCfan]

What plans do you have? Are you going to climb the mountain to see some stage?
GigiGalliNo1 will be a tabard wearing photographer in Mexico.

[KiwiWRCfan]

So: Any predictions for the 80 km stage?
Starting final day of rally with overall result not a foregone conclusion, that is something that always gets fans really excited. Expect multiple changes in overall places during 80km stage.
I for one cannot wait for the stage to get underway. An hour or more glued to split times

[b3637853]

How much can road sweeping affect Ogier and other front-runners in Mexico?

[EstWRC]

i looked at it the other day and not much based on last years stage times and results. Ogier was still the leader after day1, Latvala second with 13 secs behind and Ostberg third with 30 secs behind. They started 1st, 4th and 5th on the road.

[b3637853]

Beacuse I remember Ogier moaning before Mexico'15 being the hardest to be first on the road. Obviously stage times didn't show it, but was it because Ogier's brilliant driving or not as bad roads. Anyway now Latvala will start at the end of top10 so if he is in good mindset he could challenge fot the win.

[EstWRC]

Lol. Ogier moans every rally that IT is the hardest to be first on the road.

[AL14]

Lol. Ogier moans every rally that IT is the hardest to be first on the road.

It must be said that this year he is acting very different. I know he changed management, maybe this one is advising better than the other. I must say I prefer 2016's Ogier. Let's see if he can behave like this for the whole year.

[SubaruNorway]

It must be said that this year he is acting very different. I know he changed management, maybe this one is advising better than the other. I must say I prefer 2016's Ogier. Let's see if he can behave like this for the whole year.

Didn't seem like it in Sweden, moaning about roads that turned out to be the best they've been for years. I'm sure he was the leader
in boycotting the first stage as well.

[GravelBen]

To give him some credit, it seemed to me that he was genuinely enjoying the closer competition of Meeke pushing him at Monte and Paddon at Sweden.

I think part of the problem is the wrc media people rabbiting on about it whenever conditions disadvantage him, but they barely even mention when its the other way around (which seems to happen just as often) and he gains from road position.

[dimviii]

Becs Williams ‏@Becsywec León, Guanajuato

Interesting to see Hanninen and Lindstrom here on the recce for Mexico. I don't think we have to guess too much who that is for....#WRC

[N.O.T]

Hanninen ok, but why Lindstrom ??

Flop Flop Flop and good riddance.

[drive]

Julien Ingrassia posted page of their notes :)

https://scontent-waw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10660104_10153939004313728_4698062770847423735_n.j pg?oh=51a573e605e6f6ac0812b16b3180658c&oe=575758DB

[Eli]

Becs Williams ‏@Becsywec León, Guanajuato

Interesting to see Hanninen and Lindstrom here on the recce for Mexico. I don't think we have to guess too much who that is for....#WRC

she forgot to mention Meeke also did the recce for the past 2 days and wrc.com confirms he will compete in rally portugal. by the way, it would be ironic if Ogier would crash out on his 100th outing like Loeb did back in sweden 2008.

[Mintexmemory]

Hanninen ok, but why Lindstrom ??

Flop Flop Flop and good riddance.
Presumably Kai L as Toyota Co-driver advisor - certainly not a flop!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Shakedown stage soon and then off to Guanajuato tonight for the stages including the tunnel!

[N.O.T]

Presumably Kai L as Toyota Co-driver advisor - certainly not a flop!

aaah Lindstrom the Kimi lap dog yes man LOL... i read Lindholm the first time, that thats why i questioned it...

[Roy]

aaah Lindstrom the Kimi lap dog yes man LOL... i read Lindholm the first time, that thats why i questioned it...

You flop NOT :P

[EightGear]

aaah Lindstrom the Kimi lap dog yes man LOL... i read Lindholm the first time, that thats why i questioned it...
Please don't hurt yourself now. Even the greatest on this planet sometimes get things wrong.

[N.O.T]

it was a genuine mistake, everyone makes mistakes. There is a difference between making a mistake and being wrong.

[Franky]

it was a genuine mistake, everyone makes mistakes. There is a difference between making a mistake and being wrong.

Gods don't make mistakes

[N.O.T]

Gods don't make mistakes

how you explain humanity then ?

[pantealex]

she forgot to mention Meeke also did the recce for the past 2 days and wrc.com confirms he will compete in rally portugal.

Abbring also did recce.

[sindroms]

Kai Tarkiainen ‏@KaiTarkiainen
Drivers are playing the waiting game - no-one wants to be first at #shakedown #rallymexico #wrc

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcocN6LUcAA5wJc.jpg

[dimviii]

any link with shake results?

Thierry Neuville ‏@thierryneuville

3rd quickest so far in the shakedown of @RallyMexico with a time of 3:53.5! It’s 0.8s slower than @JariMattiWRC who is the fastest #WRC #TN

[Rallyper]

how you explain humanity then ?

OT: Free will. Not robots. Prefer the right to decide themselves. Has nothing to do with God.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcohYQeVAAAfywf.jpg
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[dimviii]

Latvala 3.52
Sordo 3.53
Neuville 3.53
Mikkelsen 3.56
Tanak 3.57
Paddon 3.58
Østberg 3.59

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CconNQCXEAAR5KZ.jpg

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ccoo9v5WwAAUPqF.jpg


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ccom8nAVIAIAKp9.jpg

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcoqD-JW8AA_g5C.jpg

[dimviii]

Julian Porter ‏@The_Rally_Guru

Lorenzo Bertelli's car gets a wipe down by the locals at the traffic lights.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcoqbdWUMAIYU4J.jpg

[AL14]

Julian Porter ‏@The_Rally_Guru

Lorenzo Bertelli's car gets a wipe down by the locals at the traffic lights.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcoqbdWUMAIYU4J.jpg

That guy has chosen the right man to get some extra money.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcowvqNUYAAVKMp.jpg


Hyundai Motorsport
‏@HMSGOfficial

Update @DaniSordo: broken steering rod after hitting a stone on #Shakedown. Car is now back in service. #WRC #RallyMexico

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-0/q85/p261x260/12800204_1033532160037004_588213035646453520_n.jpg ?oh=1901edcc550ce14d94214f0f4d8068a9&oe=57564F4C


borl photos
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive/

[Mintexmemory]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcowvqNUYAAVKMp.jpg


Hyundai Motorsport
‏@HMSGOfficial

Update @DaniSordo: broken steering rod after hitting a stone on #Shakedown. Car is now back in service. #WRC #RallyMexico

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-0/q85/p261x260/12800204_1033532160037004_588213035646453520_n.jpg ?oh=1901edcc550ce14d94214f0f4d8068a9&oe=57564F4C


borl photos
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive/

Sweepstake on number of rock-related day retirements from WRC - at least 8 I reckon

[mousti]

Is it possible some rally cars could run out of fuel during the 80 km stage!?

[Co-driven]

Is it possible some rally cars could run out of fuel during the 80 km stage!?

I also had that feeling before, not about the WRC cars but mainly other classes, like Group N. But at the time I was told it wouldn't be a problem.

[Lundefaret]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXfcUIRqsW0

Video from shakedown from Torstein Eriksen (codriver of Frank Tore Larsen), they both work as weather crew for M-Sport at this event.

[itix]

how you explain humanity then ?

The only issue in the world where we're on the same side!

[itix]

I also had that feeling before, not about the WRC cars but mainly other classes, like Group N. But at the time I was told it wouldn't be a problem.

Even if you had a fuel economy that was 5 times worse than a powerful road car you still would end up with a 50 liter or less fuel tank to run out of fuel... I am quite sure they don't have smaller fuel tanks than 50 liters

[ruesluporp]

Even if you had a fuel economy that was 5 times worse than a powerful road car you still would end up with a 50 liter or less fuel tank to run out of fuel... I am quite sure they don't have smaller fuel tanks than 50 liters

WRC 2016 Car : FIA FT3.5 tank, 80 litre capacity, located centrally

[wwbroe]

First stage of the rally goes to Neuville, just like last year.;)

[cosmin_sb]

Ogier take the lead :)

[Leon]

What is the deal with Camilli? what Malcolm saw in this guy? is it really not a commercial deal that he want us to believe?

Hope he shows more pace from now on.

[EstWRC]

Just a short street stages and Ostberg didnt do much better actually. The real rally starts tonight and Camilli will be suffering even more then.

[tc10a]

Again a very strong start from Kremer. Two fastest times and taking the lead in WRC-2 in front of Suninen.

[eib1]

Tyre info:
M-Sport/Paddon: 5 LTX Force H4
Ogier: 4S+1H
Mikkelsen: 5S
Latvala: 3H+2S
Sordo: 6S
Neuville: 3S+2H

[EstWRC]

tyre choice is very interesting. how may dramas we will have on El Chocolate? All drivers afraid of it and saying it is the hardest.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Reading that Ogier 'will open the road for two full days'... wont there be some cars doing Rally2 ahead of him on Saturday ?

[satukata]

waiting great rallymexico.. Hopefully we get new winner! Go J-M

[tc10a]

Reading that Ogier 'will open the road for two full days'... wont there be some cars doing Rally2 ahead of him on Saturday ?

No, they start after all P1

[jonkka]

Reading that Ogier 'will open the road for two full days'... wont there be some cars doing Rally2 ahead of him on Saturday ?

No, rules were changed so that Rally2 drivers will run after the P1 group now.

[Mariusz]

Reading that Ogier 'will open the road for two full days'... wont there be some cars doing Rally2 ahead of him on Saturday ?
No. This year Rally2 cars go as last WRC cars on Saturday.

You above are so fast :)

[N.O.T]

The big one has started.

[jonkka]

Ostberg quite slow...

[Simmi]

Split times still displaying in a complete mess on WRC+. Not ideal for these long stages.

[satukata]

wrc+ splits not working right :( good wrc+ have wrc2 cars.

good splits http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/index.php?id=392&L=1&ral=179

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No. This year Rally2 cars go as last WRC cars on Saturday.

You above are so fast :)

Thanks guys.

"Courtesy of the FIA’s rule forcing the championship leader to run first on the road for two days (returning retirees now run at the back of the World Rally Cars), Ogier faces first on the road for 188 miles."

[satukata]

great to see sordo FASTEST!!

[N.O.T]

Thanks guys.

"Courtesy of the FIA’s rule forcing the championship leader to run first on the road for two days (returning retirees now run at the back of the World Rally Cars), Ogier faces first on the road for 188 miles."

but only in half of those he will have a disadvantage.

[N.O.T]

great to see sordo fastest!!

amazing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a performance after 1 split and 4 cars he is fastest !!!!!!!

[Mariusz]

wrc+ splits not working right :( good wrc+ have wrc2 cars.

good splits http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/index.php?id=392&L=1&ral=179

So far splits on wrc.com are working better than usual.

[satukata]

Fords splits are very poor

[satukata]

great split for neuville. speed of new i20 looks good

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ostberg's hard tyres really losing him time here...

[dimviii]

Ostberg quite slow...

he is always slow.

[jonkka]

he is always slow.

Not on gravel and not always. Too often, I admit that.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Did you all hear Mikkelsen earlier saying Latvala 'should win this rally with one hand on the steering wheel'... :D

[satukata]

Ostberg's hard tyres really losing him time here...

J-m with 3 hard tyre is fastest..

[satukata]

amazing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a performance after 1 split and 4 cars he is fastest !!!!!!!

and great 2nd split

[jonkka]

Everyone else so far has lost time to 2nd split except Sordo...

[samWRC]

Let see can Latvala keep the car on the road :D

[N.O.T]

and great 2nd split

I don't think i can hold my excitement over that !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[satukata]

Let see can Latvala keep the car on the road :D

fingers cros.. Now JM have to finish!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

J-m with 3 hard tyre is fastest..

But Sordo quick on the softs.

[satukata]

Tyre info:
M-Sport/Paddon: 5 LTX Force H4
Ogier: 4S+1H
Mikkelsen: 5S
Latvala: 3H+2S
Sordo: 6S
Neuville: 3S+2H

great tyre game

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ostberg WTF ! That's a big time loss. :(

[Eli]

Ostberg WTF ! That's a big time loss. :(
wrong choice of tyres, he said the hard tyres where the wrong choice.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mads is gutted. "It was a disaster. I knew from the second corner. I couldn't drive it. No rhythm. I tried my best but third on the road with these tyres was wrong. Very bad."

[dimviii]

wrong choice of tyres, he said the hard tyres where the wrong choice.

excuses.

[Simmi]

Hard tyres definitely wrong for that stage - as seen by Paddon's time. But a bad performance from Mads too.

It just seems from memory that M-Sport aren't the best when it comes to tyre choice. Not really got any stats to back that up but that's what it feels like to me.

[N.O.T]

what a great time by Camilli, the change of co-driver really payed off, time to join the nobody makinen team so they flop together.

[dupanton]

Neuville stopped on tracking map... :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mads should be doing better than that... a time like Paddon's should be achievable.

[Eli]

and Neuviile's stopped, Ogier will really be unbeatable this year, won't he? shame

[dimviii]

About Neuville
His car is stopped at the 49.9km mark. Last year he rolled on this stage at the 53km point!

[samWRC]

Lol Camilli stopped

[Mariusz]

Camilli has stopped as well.

[samWRC]

And Ptaszek is also stopped

[satukata]

Good stuff LATVALA

[N.O.T]

LOLz the league of extraordinary nobodies.

[Eli]

His car is stopped at the 49.9km mark. Last year he rolled on this stage at the 53km point!

41Km mark now for thierry, and broken suspension for Neuville

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Awful start for M-Sport and DMack... :(

[Eli]

now I see why ford don't want to come back, would be a waste of money.

[jonkka]

But Sordo is splitting VW's, that's pretty decent

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Did you all hear Mikkelsen earlier saying Latvala 'should win this rally with one hand on the steering wheel'... :D

Looks like he wasn't joking ...

[Mariusz]

Nice, Camilli and Ptaszek moving now.

[cosmin_sb]

Al-Suwaidi stopped on road section

[dimviii]

Hyundai Motorsport
‏@HMSGOfficial

Update #Neuville SS4: broken suspension arm, cannot continue. Car to be recovered. #WRC #RallyMexico

[EstWRC]

lol Camilli. It seems that dmack's gravel tyre is actually the worst one, LOL

[cosmin_sb]

I am curious how Mini car manage this long stage

[Rallyper]

WRC+ now have GPS on WRC2 as well. Didn´t know that, but they obviously listened to fans.

[satukata]

Camilli should go home 3 rallies and off road again!

[EightGear]

The 1% of interest in this event I had before today has gone now.

[[WRCRR]]

lol Camilli. It seems that dmack's gravel tyre is actually the worst one, LOL

Actually, DMack's every tyre is the worst...and this is not even news. Sadly the car is not so good either in these conditions...tough for Ott to really show anything...

[focus206]

Not surprised by M-Sport... let's see if Latvala can pull this one off, so far is a good start but then again, we all know him

[Simmi]

Camilli should go home 3 rallies and off road again!

Didn't go off the road or hit anything of note apparently. Just got a puncture.

[dimviii]

while Camilli has finished,and 2 more cars after him,at live text there is no comments.

Useless sick dogs.

[satukata]

Suninen too fast and soon he will strugle behind slower cars

[RAS007]

What the hell has happened to all the Fords? ALL of them 1-2 minutes behind everyone else. WTF.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Classic @World ;)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cct63gyUMAI5gU5.jpg:large

[Mariusz]

while Camilli has finished,and 2 more cars after him,at live text there is no comments.

Useless sick dogs.
dimvii, this is what I see there between entries about Prokop and Guerra:
He reaches the stage end almost six minutes slower than Latvala. He completes with rear-left damage to his Fiesta RS and a fresh wheel fitted. "I was driving so slowly, avoiding all the stones and then we had a puncture on the rear left. A very hard start to the season. I don't know what to say. I want to progress. Okay, the rally is not over."

[N.O.T]

Camillis should follow the classic road to flop

1. Change the co-driver
2. Change the lead mechanic
3. Get advice from he king of flop Makinen
4. Flop

[EstWRC]

;1083435']Actually, DMack's every tyre is the worst...and this is not even news. Sadly the car is not so good either in these conditions...tough for Ott to really show anything...

i had high hopes for gravel tyre and it seemed they themselves had too. Lets see what comes next, the first stage was awful.

[AL14]

WRC+ now have GPS on WRC2 as well. Didn´t know that, but they obviously listened to fans.

After two years. Nice timing.
If they continue like this in 20 years we will have all the features requested.

[Sulland]

LOLz the league of extraordinary nobodies.

And the Chairman in that club is N.O.T, or are you president?
You and Trump could make a good pair!;)

[dimviii]

dimvii, this is what I see there between entries about Prokop and Guerra:
He reaches the stage end almost six minutes slower than Latvala. He completes with rear-left damage to his Fiesta RS and a fresh wheel fitted. "I was driving so slowly, avoiding all the stones and then we had a puncture on the rear left. A very hard start to the season. I don't know what to say. I want to progress. Okay, the rally is not over."

now i can read it too.

[N.O.T]

And the Chairman in that club is N.O.T, or are you president?
You and Trump could make a good pair!;)

I will make WRC great again !!!

[AL14]

Ford Fiesta is struggling more than its tires.
On previous rallys you could blame drivers but Ostberg has always be good in Mexico and Sweden and he is nowhere now. I think the car is too much behind others this year, and I fear 2017 will get only worse.

[EstWRC]

Mads made a wrong tyre choice

[Rallyper]

Is it about enginepower on these hights? Too expensive to remap Fiesta for MW...?

[samWRC]

Did Ptaszek slow Suninen or what happened in the end?

[stefanvv]

Did Ptaszek slow Suninen or what happened in the end?

yes, Suninen caught him near the end

[AL14]

Paddon first split is quite bad. Does he made wrong tyre choice?

[stefanvv]

Paddon first split is quite bad. Does he made wrong tyre choice?

he did, but probably there is more than that, 2nd is even worse

[N.O.T]

some kind of problem for paddon.

[dimviii]

if Latvala cant manage to make a big gap to Ogier,i am not sure if he manage to win. 22 sec at 54 km stage are not enough.

[jonkka]

22 sec at 54 km stage are not enough.

Especially as I very much doubt he can repeat it. But tomorrow is longer day.

[AL14]

I've taken WRC+ for one month because of the promotion at 1€. But I feel like being robbed anyway. It's worse than last year. LOL. What a shame.

[EstWRC]

Paddon lucky again like in sweden. Has spare parts with him.

[EstWRC]

I've taken WRC+ for one month because of the promotion at 1€. But I feel like being robbed anyway. It's worse than last year. LOL. What a shame.


how is it worse? Everything working perfectly for me and i dont get all you little cry babies here.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Camilli just cruising through this one. Lost all confidence now I guess...

[Rallyper]

I've taken WRC+ for one month because of the promotion at 1€. But I feel like being robbed anyway. It's worse than last year. LOL. What a shame.

Not worse. Are you a troll or what?

[AL14]

how is it worse? Everything working perfectly for me and i dont get all you little cry babies here.

So Neuville is still in the battle for you? And Latvala was 2 minutes far from Ogier at second split and finished 3 secs ahead? Also it's not nice calling others crying baby. If you say it again I will talk bad about Tanak. lol

[EstWRC]

lol. these little things makes it so worse for you?

[Mariusz]

It's the same like last year.

[itix]

Camillis should follow the classic road to flop

1. Change the co-driver
2. Change the lead mechanic
3. Get advice from he king of flop Makinen
4. Flop
Your comments are neither insightful nor wanted (and very repetitive).

Do everyone a favor and be quiet until you have something else to say...

Thanks from the entire forum.

[EstWRC]

now i get why Tänak said that they have to just survive these 2 oversea rallies. That new tyre for Portugal better be good.

[AL14]

lol. these little things makes it so worse for you?

Little things? We are talking about the World CHampionship of the second most followed car motorsport. If they still have problems like that after two years it means it's a joke.
Also yesterday I tried to watch some onboards of Monte and they lost audio and quality is like when we had 56k modems.
If you are happy with that is ok. Just I don't feel like a troll at all if they sell an outdated product compared to what tecnology and especially attention to users can do nowadays. Please...

[Mariusz]

Why did you expect more for 1€?

[jonkka]

lol. these little things makes it so worse for you?

Those are not little things for commercial service, even with bargain price. Commercial must be flawless always. Free service for us stringy people can lag, miss splits and show whatever times it wants.

[WUff1]

Ford Fiesta is struggling more than its tires.
On previous rallys you could blame drivers but Ostberg has always be good in Mexico and Sweden and he is nowhere now. I think the car is too much behind others this year, and I fear 2017 will get only worse.

Don´t think so. Ostberg always seems to be rather slow on the first stages. Now he´s second best non-VW-driver.

[EstWRC]

Little things? We are talking about the World CHampionship of the second most followed car motorsport. If they still have problems like that after two years it means it's a joke.
Also yesterday I tried to watch some onboards of Monte and they lost audio and quality is like when we had 56k modems.
If you are happy with that is ok. Just I don't feel like a troll at all if they sell an outdated product compared to what tecnology and especially attention to users can do nowadays. Please...

so tell me which other motorsport category has better following system? I havent followed the other series so seriously but i havent heard others having something like this.

[stefanvv]

So Neuville is still in the battle for you? And Latvala was 2 minutes far from Ogier at second split and finished 3 secs ahead? Also it's not nice calling others crying baby. If you say it again I will talk bad about Tanak. lol

this is not wrc+ fault, I had same times at vw-motorsport site

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Stick to the rally please guys.. there's a thread for WRC+ comments.

[AL14]

this is not wrc+ fault, I had same times at vw-motorsport site
They take times from the same source. But promoter has enough money (some of which is ours) to go to that source and tell them to give right timing or they will take it from someone else. Or depending on how it works do whatever it takes to improve that, but apparently they just don't care.

[Simmi]

Latvala needs to push hard on the super specials today not to give up big time to Ogier. I'd predict Seb could take back 4-5 seconds combined on these specials today.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcuSwUuWEAI0a9p.jpg

[itix]

He must have hit something pretty nose end first!
Lundefaret is proud!

[EstWRC]

Not a good start again for the season for neuville.

[AndyRAC]

so tell me which other motorsport category has better following system? I havent followed the other series so seriously but i havent heard others having something like this.

Virtually every other series has a better system. As ever, WRC is 'cheap as chips'....

[EstWRC]

Latvala needs to push hard on the super specials today not to give up big time to Ogier. I'd predict Seb could take back 4-5 seconds combined on these specials today.

Already lost 1.2 secs on this one

[dimviii]

@SebOgier after SS6 "Good morning, good tyre choice, not far from the lead" #wrc #RallyMexico

[dimviii]

any French speaking mate can help us what did he said about Neuvilles crash?
http://www.rtbf.be/video/sport/rallye?categoryId=15

[dupanton]

any French speaking mate can help us what did he said about Neuvilles crash?
http://www.rtbf.be/video/sport/rallye?categoryId=15

Thierry started on a good pace but spon after a crest. He hit the front left and couldn't repair the damage. He will restart in Rally 2.
Hyundai did not ask him to attack from the first stage.
Thierry had to much "0 points" this year. Hopefully he can take some points in the end. Certainly for the manufacturers title, it is important.

[dimviii]

http://www.ewrc-results.com/quickp/27501_nej.jpg
http://www.ewrc-results.com/quickp/27501_nej2.jpg

[HaCo]

He made a spin and touched left front if I recall correctly. It's to early to make analysis, they want to see him and the car first.
He made the right tire choice, he was in a good rytm they were expecting a strong result, now it will be very hard.
TN did not get any instruction to attack or to go for points.
They are disappointed, but rest also have to finish.

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[Mk2 RS2000]

Is this the end for Neuville in the #1 team?

[satukata]

Next 2 stages are key for Latvalas victory. He need 20sec more to beat Seb i think

[satukata]

Is this the end for Neuville in the #1 team?

in gravel rallies Paddon deserves place in 1st team. Neuville need some help under pressure

[dimviii]

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/75444012778732101534800661206781493743645204443641 o.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ccuh_K9VIAA1e_E.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ccudc9-UMAAgMmm.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcuiEd1VIAA53n9.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak avoids using the DMack's ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcuoEvuW4AAStop.jpg:large

[M5]

Lets see if Mads get up speed with softer tyres?

[Lundefaret]

He must have hit something pretty nose end first!
Lundefaret is proud!

Funny :)
But Neuville was really having a Nose End First period in 13, and he put pressure on Ogier. I would like more drivers to push Ogier like Paddon did in Sweden, then WRC is exciting! So I hope Neuville gets back to his game for the sake of the championship :)

[Simmi]

Looks like Guerra flew too close to the sun on that jump. Looking forward to seeing video footage of it.

[eib1]

Tanak avoids using the DMack's ...

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xal1/v/t1.0-9/12512460_910110332421370_53235289556980524_n.jpg?o h=c877e51fabc7179d9b6b6030bd71cf2e&oe=57575A32

[dimviii]

MICHELIN Motorsport ‏@michelin_sport

#tyre info: Paddon: 5 Michelin LTX Force H4
Sordo/VW/Ostberg: 4H+1S
Camilli: 4H+2S


https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/12794498_909965445769192_7890088413556957985_n.jpg ?oh=a8627eb82f2e5331c9b7f4ee37208730&oe=574A8639

[EstWRC]

thanks for the Tänak pictures!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Lets see if Mads get up speed with softer tyres?

Everyone is going with the hard tyres for the second loop.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

PROKOP: "The rally is great apart from the jumps. I don't know who's idea it was to make them so steep, but it looks like that's what stopped Guerra and we nearly damaged our car too."

[jonkka]

Here we go again... I fear that Ogier will improve and snatch the stage win

[dimviii]

Ogier very close to collide with cows,and incar of Neuvilles crash
https://youtu.be/Gl8x987N2oU

[Fast Eddie WRC]

23 min delay :(

[dimviii]

damn,i feel sleepy..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ccuxi2GUYAAqDKB.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcuxjBpUcAAPG5H.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcuxjMPUUAAVwxU.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcuxjXFUcAAvnCo.jpg

[Mk2 RS2000]

damn,i feel sleepy..

C'mon, beaut morning here.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Here's this afternoon's tyre choices from the Michelin runners:

Hayden Paddon - five hard
Dani Sordo - four hard, one soft
Mads Ostberg - four hard, one soft
Jari-Matti Latvala - four hard, one soft
Sebastien Ogier - four hard, one soft
Andreas Mikkelsen - four hard, one soft
Eric Camilli - four hard, two soft

[AL14]

Ogier's first split is just one second faster than his previous one... Has he done some mistake? I thought he would have been very much faster on the second run..

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ccu3VXiVAAAWalv.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

:eek:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ccu5OVHUYAA1Rrn.jpg:large

[Negaiss]

Stage winner prediction - Paddon !

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mads time will be interesting - no tyre excuses now...

EDIT - no split 1 ?