2016 News and Results

[OldF]

Looks like the new 4WD kit will be a universal kit developed by…..?

Does the “same time penalties” mean that there will not be any day points + overall points anymore in ERC?

http://www.fia.com/news/fia-announces-world-motor-sport-council-decisions

FIA Rally Commission

The FIA announced the development of an action plan for Rally Safety at all levels – the action plan will include the creation of a task force of experts, communication to ASNs on the importance of adopting FIA Safety standards, a study into the feasibility of limiting ‘pirate’ events that are not sanctioned by ASNs, and the development and implementation of a communication plan for spectators.

The WMSC approved the introduction of a new 4WD car homologation consisting of a homologated kit to be applicable to a large number of road cars currently available on the market. The new homologation will be eligible in Regional and National Championships, and will sit between R3 and R5 in costs and performance.

In order to harmonise with the WRC, the FIA European Rally Championship will adopt the same time penalties for competitors not completing all stages. In addition, from 2016 priority drivers will have a restricted tyre quantity.

[WUff1]

I also read (don´t remember where) that next year Rally 2 rules like in WRC will be valid in ERC, too.

[Mirek]

Which is not a good thing in my opinion. I would prefer it the other way.

[WUff1]

Me too.

[janvanvurpa]

Which is not a good thing in my opinion. I would prefer it the other way.

What's the differences?

[makinen_fan]

What's the differences?

I think Mirek means that wrc should adopt the ERC rule that anyone that retires cannot be in the final classification. Although they can restart and score day points

[Mirek]

Exactly that.

[PLuto]

Previous plan was to adapt rule from ERC to WRC. But after hard disagreement on WMSC and hard push from WRC and MERC they reversed and made it opposite. From my point of view it is really bad decision...

[PLuto]

Does the “same time penalties” mean that there will not be any day points + overall points anymore in ERC?

It looks like day points + overall points will stay like they are now. Only rules regarding rally2 will change...

[RS]

Any chance of an official or semi-official Skoda Motorsport presence in ERC next year?

I suppose Lappi and Tidemand will do a full WRC2 season, but Kopecky in a works Skoda is too strong for the Czech Championship and his father's team would surely be capable of running an ERC programme if necessary.

[Andre Oliveira]

I would like to see Swedish or Finnish or both, events on ERC. Maybe Arctic on snow to open, and South Swedish on gravel :)

[PLuto]

Any chance of an official or semi-official Skoda Motorsport presence in ERC next year?

I suppose Lappi and Tidemand will do a full WRC2 season, but Kopecky in a works Skoda is too strong for the Czech Championship and his father's team would surely be capable of running an ERC programme if necessary.

We will see, everything is possible...

[PLuto]

I would like to see Swedish or Finnish or both, events on ERC. Maybe Arctic on snow to open, and South Swedish on gravel :)

I think there is no chance...

[Andre Oliveira]

The old format of European with coeficients are better :) a really Euro championship

[Rallyper]

I think there is no chance...

Why not?

[Mirek]

The old format of European with coeficients are better :) a really Euro championship

No, that was nonsense. It was possible that the contenders never met...

[Jarek Z]

No, that was nonsense. It was possible that the contenders never met...

Yes, with nearly 60 rounds it was the most idiotic champiosnhip in the world.

[PLuto]

Why not?

No money and no interest...

[Andre Oliveira]

One per country. It is incredible that the nations of Sweden and Finland are not on ERC.

[Rallyper]

No money - I have no idea why or if it´s true. But no interest - on what information can you state that?

[Jarek Z]

But no interest - on what information can you state that?

On history? When was the last time when Swedish driver was competing in the ERC? Probably in the seventies? I think the Swedes have never been interested in the European Championship...

[Mirek]

One Swedish guy is 2015 JERC champion, Jarek ;) Anyway You are right that he was maybe alone in twenty years (I can remember only Jimmy Joge's 2007 season but that was in IRC, not ERC in that time).

[Jarek Z]

One Swedish guy is 2015 JERC champion, Jarek ;)

Exception proves the rule ;)

[PLuto]

One Swedish guy is 2015 JERC champion, Jarek ;) Anyway You are right that he was maybe alone in twenty years (I can remember only Jimmy Joge's 2007 season but that was in IRC, not ERC in that time).

Ok, there were more swedish guys in IRC campaigns (beside Joge it was also Patrik Flodin with Solberg's Fiesta or PG Andersson with Proton), last year in JERC there was Mattias Olsson, this year Mattias Adielsson. But northern drivers prefers more WRC as there is more gravel. ERC/IRC is more tarmac championship...

[PLuto]

No money - I have no idea why or if it´s true. But no interest - on what information can you state that?

Organisers dont have so much money to be part of ERC. And that is one of the main reasons why organisers are not interested to joining ERC...

[pucky54]

Ok, there were more swedish guys in IRC campaigns (beside Joge it was also Patrik Flodin with Solberg's Fiesta or PG Andersson with Proton), last year in JERC there was Mattias Olsson, this year Mattias Adielsson. But northern drivers prefers more WRC as there is more gravel. ERC/IRC is more tarmac championship...

Sandell in Fabia some years ago ;)

[WUff1]

Exception proves the rule ;)

Mikael Ericsson did some old ERC rounds in 1984 before going to WRC: http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=7454&t=Mikael-Ericsson

Per Eklund in 1986: http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=3451&t=Per-Eklund

[RS]

I would like to see Bouffier commit to a full(er) ERC campaign next year instead of picking and choosing a few events from both championships. As a privateer it would be very hard to repeat his Monte success in WRC again, but as Kajto proved a privateer can win in ERC. Bouffier has never won an ERC title, and frankly he probably should have.

[Mirek]

I'm quite sure that Bryan would like to do full ERC too...

[SVrally]

What could be the calendar of ERC 2016 ?
I hope that it will be a round in Italy , maybe the 100^ Targa Florio .
I would like to see Lukyanuk to take part to the full ERC Championship , with Bouffier and maybe an Italian driver .

[PLuto]

I would like to see Bouffier commit to a full(er) ERC campaign next year instead of picking and choosing a few events from both championships. As a privateer it would be very hard to repeat his Monte success in WRC again, but as Kajto proved a privateer can win in ERC. Bouffier has never won an ERC title, and frankly he probably should have.

It is not easy. He was doing Monte and Corse, because these are french events and for french driver it is easier to find sponsors. Deutschland was done with support of Romo Motorsport, Ypres with Gemini Racing. If possible, Bryan would like to do all possible events. But like usually, it is mainly about money...

[PLuto]

What could be the calendar of ERC 2016 ?
I hope that it will be a round in Italy , maybe the 100^ Targa Florio .
I would like to see Lukyanuk to take part to the full ERC Championship , with Bouffier and maybe an Italian driver .

Everything depends on WRC calendar. And because FIA and WRC promoters are still not able to make calendar for WRC in time, we must wait. But dont expect round in Italy...

[itix]

'tis a shame if that'd be the case because italy has many many beautiful rallies and a passionate crowd :/

[PLuto]

'tis a shame if that'd be the case because italy has many many beautiful rallies and a passionate crowd :/

But no money or organisers who wants to spend so much money for ERC...

[itix]

I really can't see the reason for that. They have a nation full of motorsport fans and they obviously has the money for gigantic football arrangements and milano expo and what not, so why not a measly round of the ERC?

Maybe the San Remo, maybe the mille miglia, why not bring back the Targa Florio, a round that has almost the history of the Monte Carlo...?

OFF TOPIC: A funny off topic side note. Me and my italian ex were discussing events and she mentioned Sanremo... I naturally was overjoyed and started passionately how I loved the Sanremo and watched it countless times as a kid whereupon she frowned and said it was not her thing and knowing me, it shouldn't be mine either. I immediately took offense and wondered how I could not love the cars screaming through the hills and the autumn leaves that would swirl behind them as they wen't past the TV cameras.

After a lot of confusion I realized that to the common italian, Sanremo is a music festival with celebrities and shallowness in abundance, not a rally.

...so maybe you have a point after all. If you want money as an organizer in italy, shallow music festivals ans soccer events is the thing to do.

[b3637853]

Well for sure there won't be Janner in 2016 and ERC should have one snow rally so are the gonna schedule Latvian round earlier? Another thing there is still one spot for a new event. What events are official candidates? Rzeszowski in Poland for sure. Any other?

[Mirek]

Mécsek from Hungary I think.

[SVrally]

I really can't see the reason for that. They have a nation full of motorsport fans and they obviously has the money for gigantic football arrangements and milano expo and what not, so why not a measly round of the ERC?

Maybe the San Remo, maybe the mille miglia, why not bring back the Targa Florio, a round that has almost the history of the Monte Carlo...?

OFF TOPIC: A funny off topic side note. Me and my italian ex were discussing events and she mentioned Sanremo... I naturally was overjoyed and started passionately how I loved the Sanremo and watched it countless times as a kid whereupon she frowned and said it was not her thing and knowing me, it shouldn't be mine either. I immediately took offense and wondered how I could not love the cars screaming through the hills and the autumn leaves that would swirl behind them as they wen't past the TV cameras.

After a lot of confusion I realized that to the common italian, Sanremo is a music festival with celebrities and shallowness in abundance, not a rally.

...so maybe you have a point after all. If you want money as an organizer in italy, shallow music festivals ans soccer events is the thing to do.

You are right !!!
I don't think , but I hope that an Italian round will be part of the 2016 ERC Calendar .
We have many rally fans and many beautiful streets .
Mille Miglia and Sanremo are two rallies with a great tradition , the Targa Florio is the oldest car race in the world and in 2016 it celebrates the 100th edition ... It will be a great event !!!
But we have many others great event .
We will see ...
I can't wait for the new Wrc and Erc Calendars .

[Mirek]

Yes, You have great stages and events but those either don't seem to be interested in ERC or simply don't have money to be part of it (Sanremo, Mille Miglia).

[Andre Oliveira]

I prefer, first, a italian make with R5 :)

[SVrally]

Me too .
But I think also that an Italian ERC round could be important to revive the interest of Italian drivers and fans towards the European Rally Championship .

[RS]

Nikolay Gryazin plans to do full ERC in the Fabia R5 next year.

[SVrally]

Nikolay Gryazin plans to do full ERC in the Fabia R5 next year.

Wow . what a news !!!
I hope that he will confirm this rumor .

[Jarek Z]

Nikolay Gryazin plans to do full ERC in the Fabia R5 next year.

Not bad for an 18-year old kid without any experience ;)

[Rallyper]

Not anything at all if you´re loaded with funded money.

[PLuto]

Nikolay Gryazin plans to do full ERC in the Fabia R5 next year.

Source?

[Andre Oliveira]

http://www.fiaerc.com/russian-teenager-to-debut-fabia-r5-ahead-of-full-erc-assault/

[PLuto]

As far as I know, actually is planned only this one start. Starts with Fabia R5 were previously planned for Vassily, but after accident before Estonia plans changed. Actually nothing sure regarding next season.

[Jarek Z]

And the new official Opel Adam driver for ERC 2016 will be 25-year old German Julius Tannert. Good luck to him, but it will be hard as hell to be better than Bergkvist :)

http://www.autoklub.pl/news/foto/201510/news20151026_64355h.jpg

[WUff1]

As already supposed by some Breen maybe ends his ERC campaign with Peugeot Rally Academy:

"It's a huge win for me. The team really took a big risk to take this chance on me. I have had a wonderful couple of years. The year has been good speed wise, especially on the specialized rallies. Our speed has never been in question, but our season should have been better."

[RS]

Quite a graceful statement from Breen, even though he wasn't perfect either.

I hope Peugeot Rally Academy will continue in ERC next year. Who won that 208 cup thingy this year and do they get an ERC drive next year?

[TheFlyingTuga]

José António "Cohete" Suarez! I think he had a go in a 208 T16 in Rally Catalunya

[EightGear]

José António "Cohete" Suarez! I think he had a go in a 208 T16 in Rally Catalunya
Yes indeed and IIRC he did JWRC/Academy a few years back.

[RS]

Eurosport comentator confirmed first round of 2016 will be Liepaja in February.

[vino_93]

José António "Cohete" Suarez! I think he had a go in a 208 T16 in Rally Catalunya

He is supported by Peugeot España. I think he will have a nice year, as did Abbring - and not like Martin this year.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Quite a graceful statement from Breen, even though he wasn't perfect either.



He should be graceful to Peugeot after getting 2 years rallying in a new R5 from them..

It will be interesting to see if he gets a drive next season.. that will tell a lot about how well or not he did with the Peugeot chance.

[irish_tiger]

He should be graceful to Peugeot after getting 2 years rallying in a new R5 from them..

It will be interesting to see if he gets a drive next season.. that will tell a lot about how well or not he did with the Peugeot chance.

Two years of his money more the like ......

[RS]

Two years of his money more the like ......

I think Craig only paid for the WRC2 programme, maybe Peugeot UK contributed to the ERC programme. I wonder whether Chris Ingram has a chance with them next year.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I think Craig only paid for the WRC2 programme,


Correct, you could see that Kel-tech sponsorship was only visible on his WRC2 cars. (Spain below)

http://www.craigbreen.com/images/news/full_spainpreview.jpg


I wonder whether Chris Ingram has a chance with them next year.

That would be great.

[EightGear]

WRC2 was paid from his own/dad's pockets. ERC wasn't but he got kinda lucky I believe because Abbring was their first choice but he refused.

[Mirek]

Jaromír Tarabus + Fabia R5 + Kresta Racing in ERC 2016 officially confirmed :)

[Jarek Z]

Jaromír Tarabus + Fabia R5 + Kresta Racing in ERC 2016 officially confirmed :)

Great news! Thanks for sharing!

[French_Paulo]

Jaromír Tarabus + Fabia R5 + Kresta Racing in ERC 2016 officially confirmed :)

Any details about his program ?

[Mirek]

There is no calendar yet :) Anyway from the press release it's clear they want to do more than number of events counted to the championship acc. to the rules. The rules are also not yet specified. I would personally expect them to do around 8 events, maybe more.

[PLuto]

Draft version of calendar should be released today...

[Reis Eduardo]

About the new calendar the autosport.pt talks about the return of Rally Islas Canarias (Spain) and RAJD RZESZOWSKI (Poland) replacing Janner and Valais and said that there should be no more major changes being the 10 rallies.

[liposh]

And what is wrong with Valais? No money? I think it is one of TOP 3 events in ERC calendar. I think ERC needs at least one event on tarmac in mountains (You know for example San Remo, Antibes, Valais etc.) IMHO it doesn´t make sense to have very similar events Barum and Rzeszowski and second couple is Cyprus and Acropolis. I know there are differences but generally it is same type of surface. The variety of places and surfaces in Europe is much more bigger.

[PLuto]

Problem of Valais is in communication between organisers and Eurosport and FIA. And of course it is also about money... On the other hand, organisers wants go to WRC :)

[Reis Eduardo]

I agree. Valais is an excellent rally and was surprised by the news.

[PLuto]

I agree. Valais is an excellent rally and was surprised by the news.

This is not so big surprise, also this year they were out and returned only after movement of Corse to WRC.

[French_Paulo]

Cherain with a Fiesta R5 will compete ERC in 2016 : http://www.dhnet.be/sports/moteurs/le-championnat-2016-des-rallyes-belges-en-peril-563b23373570bccfaed156f6#d053b

:)

[Reis Eduardo]

This is not so big surprise, also this year they were out and returned only after movement of Corse to WRC.

Correct. But exactly why they have returned this year I thought that everything would be resolved, but apparently I was wrong.

[RS]

RAJD RZESZOWSKI.

I can't wait to hear the Eurosport commentators try to pronounce that.

[Jarek Z]

Cherain with a Fiesta R5 will compete ERC in 2016 : http://www.dhnet.be/sports/moteurs/le-championnat-2016-des-rallyes-belges-en-peril-563b23373570bccfaed156f6#d053b

Good news! How good is Cherain? Something like Lefebvre?

[EightGear]

Cherain with a Fiesta R5 will compete ERC in 2016 : http://www.dhnet.be/sports/moteurs/le-championnat-2016-des-rallyes-belges-en-peril-563b23373570bccfaed156f6#d053b

:)

I'm sorry but itsn't he just saying he's working on a plan to do ERC? No confirmation at all.

Besides it looks to me like it's more about putting pressure on the Belgian federation to cut costs.



Good news! How good is Cherain? Something like Lefebvre?

He's not bad, competed in the 208 cup in 2013 against Lefebvre and Abbring and got a 2nd place at Limousin. But no, he's not a Lefebvre-level driver.

[PLuto]

ERC calendar is available here: http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=17704

[Jarek Z]

ERC calendar is available here: http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=17704

How come the ERC calendar is worse every year?

[PLuto]

How come the ERC calendar is worse every year?

You mean with including Rajd Rzeszowski? :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The provisional FIA European Rally Championship calendar for 2016 is as follows:

5-7 February Rally Liepāja (Latvia, gravel/ice/snow) (J)
11-13 March Rally Islas Canarias (asphalt)
7-9 April Circuit of Ireland Rally (Northern Ireland, asphalt) (J)
6-8 May SEAJETS Acropolis Rally (Greece, gravel) **
2-4 June SATA Rallye Açores (Portugal, gravel) (J)
23-25 June Kenotek by CID LINES Ypres Rally (Belgium, asphalt) (J)
15-17 July auto24 Rally Estonia (gravel) * (J)
5-7 August Rajd Rzeszowski (Poland, asphalt)
26-28 August Barum Czech Rally Zlín (Czech Republic, asphalt) (J)
24-25 September Cyprus Rally (gravel/asphalt)

Reserve event
20-22 October Rallye International du Valais (Switzerland, asphalt)

(J) Indicates FIA ERC Junior Championship round
*Subject to signing of ERC Promoter agreement
**Subject to signing the ERC Promoter agreement and sporting power delegation to the local federation

[WUff1]

I expected rally Liepaja to get an earlier date now, which happened.

[dodge33cymru]

Argh, when will they stop dropping Valais, it's one of the best rallies they have.

They're also ending the season ridiculously early, so when the motorsport press are all fixated on the close of the circuit racing season in Europe.

[Jarek Z]

You mean with including Rajd Rzeszowski? :)

Yes, I mean inclusion of Rajd Rzeszowski and Canary Islands as well as exclusion of such beautiful events as Rallye du Valais and Janner.

[dodge33cymru]

Well Janner rally was excusable as there's no event to include, but Valais will go ahead; no excuses for dropping such a great round.... again. Was there this year and I loved it, now I end up hoping that one of the others has some sort of difficulty and that's not fair on anyone.

[Mirek]

How is that an excuse if the organization and promoter/FIA can't find a common language?

[pucky54]

I expected rally Liepaja to get an earlier date now, which happened.

??? Same date as this year!

[AndyRAC]

Argh, when will they stop dropping Valais, it's one of the best rallies they have.

They're also ending the season ridiculously early, so when the motorsport press are all fixated on the close of the circuit racing season in Europe.

Have to agree. Valais should be one of the first events in. Personally, the 'new' ERC had been a disappointment. I can't remember an event with any live TV. Eurosport need to start pulling their finger out - and do more promotion.

[Sulland]

Are rallies to apply or are they asked to host an ERC rally?

[RS]

The calendar is not bad; 50/50 sealed/loose surface (as it should be)

Canarias always produced a close battle in the past and Poland is an important market with a strong rally interest.

I would rather have seen Valais stay instead of Cyprus but Eurosport is not a charity.

[PLuto]

Are rallies to apply or are they asked to host an ERC rally?

First step is on side of organiser, they must be interested to host ERC round...

[RS]

I can't remember an event with any live TV. Eurosport need to start pulling their finger out - and do more promotion.

I would love to see some live TV too, but maybe that is less important when ERC is competing against the virtually nonexistent coverage of WRC2?

The main issue is getting plenty of (strong) regular competitors. It wasn't too bad in the end this year with Breen, Lukyanuk and Kajto but we have heard nothing concrete about any of them for next year.

[Rally Power]

It's a good calendar, that spreads ERC from North to South, East to West. They've also kept only 10 events and gone, as RS mentioned, for a balanced tarmac/gravel proportion.

But Valais will be missed. It has a unique situation in central Europe (close to traditional rally countries, not represented at ERC) and a classic alpine atmosphere, with challenging roads, very similar to those that have forged rally legend.

If Valais manage to get in another time, Eurosport should really keep it for good, promoting it has the perfect rally season finale.

[Mirek]

I don't like the calendar very much. 4 of 10 events are held on islands which is very difficult logistically and for me the season ends too early. I also miss some proper mountain rally as many others said.

[Jeppe]

You hit the nail Mirek ;)

[Mirek]

Sirmacis with Fabia R5 in ERC 2016? :)
https://instagram.com/p/9vZdVWEyF5/

[Jarek Z]

I also miss some proper mountain rally as many others said.

Yes, it is very sad that all the beautiful and classic rallies, such as Mille Miglia, Antibes and Valais, are gone :(

[liposh]

Now the only one question is: Do they plan to have 2 Fabias R5? (It was mentioned on fiaerc.com website that Nikolay Gryazin will do ERC starts with fabia R5 but nobody said how much. It could be 1 start (and most of all JERC campaign)) ...but for sure I would prefer 2 SRT Fabias R5 in ERC next year. More is better :D

[Mirek]

I think I heard somewhere that they already have two but maybe I am wrong. Anyway two cars doesn't necessarily mean two drivers.

[Jarek Z]

...but for sure I would prefer 2 SRT Fabias R5 in ERC next year. More is better :D

Yes, the more the merrier, so why not 3? I don't mind, do you? :D

[French_Paulo]

Sirmacis with Fabia R5 in ERC 2016? :)
https://instagram.com/p/9vZdVWEyF5/

Awesome !

[Simmi]

No need for Skoda to enter the ERC in a works capacity next year. Looks like between their customers they should take the majority of the top spots.

[PLuto]

Now it is up to Ford, Hyundai and PSA to give adequate rivals...

[Mariusz]

One Kajetanowicz should be enough ;)

[French_Paulo]

No need for Skoda to enter the ERC in a works capacity next year. Looks like between their customers they should take the majority of the top spots.

Do you have a list of ERC 2016 drivers ?

[Mirek]

No need for Skoda to enter the ERC in a works capacity next year. Looks like between their customers they should take the majority of the top spots.

I don't see any Škoda customer able to beat Kajto among those confirmed for ERC...

[PLuto]

If Kajto will continue...

[French_Paulo]

If Kajto will continue...

Or, if Lotos will continue...

[Andre Oliveira]

Kajto should move to WRC2.

The truth is that Skoda have allways the best drivers too. If M-Sport choose a really good driver to "sell" ERC Fiesta R5... maybe a bet to be the new WRC driver on future

[Simmi]

Do you have a list of ERC 2016 drivers ?

No not at all - it just seems to be the way the market is shifting in R5.

[sindroms]

Sirmacis with Fabia R5 in ERC 2016? :)
https://instagram.com/p/9vZdVWEyF5/

It could be. Still no official announcement about 2016 program. Liepāja is quiet sure I think :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hopefully we'll see Neil Simpson out on some 2016 ERC events in his new Fabia R5...

http://www.fiaerc.com/erc-points-scorer-gives-skoda-fabia-r5-its-uk-debut/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTTOsRCWUAAUCEp.jpg

[Mirek]

In the Gemini Team press released after Valais there is an indirect indication that Jakeš may do some ERC program next year. It's written there something like this: "We decided not to use superally as we had indication that Valais would not be part of ERC next year and the experience from there would not be so crucial for our future."

[garais22]

Big plans for SRT rally team. They are planing to run with two teams - SRT (Three R2 cars) and Skoda Baltic Motorsport (Thre Skoda Fabia R5)
http://www.go4speed.lv/lv/news/erc/5180-kruzmanis-sobrid-stradajam-pie-ta-lai-erc-cempionata-startetu-ar-divam-komandam/

[liposh]

Big plans for SRT rally team. They are planing to run with two teams - SRT (Three R2 cars) and Skoda Baltic Motorsport (Thre Skoda Fabia R5)]

Holy cow, what a good news.

[Jarek Z]

Big plans for SRT rally team. They are planing to run with two teams - SRT (Three R2 cars) and Skoda Baltic Motorsport (Thre Skoda Fabia R5)

I'll be damned! Is this for real?!

[WUff1]

Does anybody know how Vasily Gryazin is recovering?

[liposh]

From what I ´ve heard it will take a loot of time. How long was Kubica´s recovery? Two years? EDIT: It took 1,5 year for Kubica to recover. I think it will be similar or longer.

[RS]

Big plans for SRT rally team. They are planing to run with two teams - SRT (Three R2 cars) and Skoda Baltic Motorsport (Thre Skoda Fabia R5)
http://www.go4speed.lv/lv/news/erc/5180-kruzmanis-sobrid-stradajam-pie-ta-lai-erc-cempionata-startetu-ar-divam-komandam/

The article says the drivers don't necessarily have to be Latvian, but I suppose then they would have to bring budget.

Does this team already have three Fabia R5?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sounds like Breen starting to say his goodbyes to Peugeot ...

Craig Breen ‏@Craig_Breen
Thanks to all for being there for me and Scott through this season and over the past few years, thanks guys!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTZcmN9WEAAzPo_.jpg:large

[EightGear]

Sounds like Breen starting to say his goodbyes to Peugeot ...

Craig Breen ‏@Craig_Breen
Thanks to all for being there for me and Scott through this season and over the past few years, thanks guys!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTZcmN9WEAAzPo_.jpg:large
He actually thanks them?

[PLuto]

The article says the drivers don't necessarily have to be Latvian, but I suppose then they would have to bring budget.

Does this team already have three Fabia R5?

They dont have three Fabia R5 yet. And they will not do championship with six cars. It was only example that on some events there should be so many cars...

[dodge33cymru]

Does anybody know how Vasily Gryazin is recovering?
I asked a team member in Valais, I think he might have been a relative but not sure; he said Vasily is still recovering but it is expected to take a long time yet, but I forgot if he said it will be a minimum of six months or a year still.

The good news is that he recently left the chair for the first time and has started work with a physiotherapist to stand under his own weight and next will come walking. I told him the rallying community around Europe was hoping for the best for him.

[Mirek]

David Botka bought DS3 R5 from Anders Grondal and wants to use it for ERC2016.

[Andre Oliveira]

Yes :) chassis 16. Only 7 rallies done

[Jarek Z]

David Botka bought DS3 R5 from Anders Grondal and wants to use it for ERC2016.

Wasn't he going to finish his rally career this year?

[Mirek]

I don't know anything about that.

[WUff1]

He already said that at Jänner Rallye, he wanted to win ERC2 as a final goal in his career.

[Jarek Z]

He already said that at Jänner Rallye, he wanted to win ERC2 as a final goal in his career.

Yes, that's exactly what I mean. This interview was at www.fiaerc.com, but I cannot find it anymore.
I guess after winning the ERC2 title and feeling the smell of success, it must be difficult for Botka to retire :)
Good luck to him!!! There wasn't a big competition in ERC2, but he seems to be a good driver.

[pucky54]

He already said that at Jänner Rallye, he wanted to win ERC2 as a final goal in his career.

It was Hideg, not Botka if I remember right!

[Jarek Z]

It was Hideg, not Botka if I remember right!

Damn it, it seems you are right:
http://www.fiaerc.com/driver/krisztian-hideg/

But Hideg didn't compete in the ERC, did he?

[Mirek]

He did but he abandoned ERC after his disqualification from CoI.

[PLuto]

Like boys wrote, it was Hideg who wanted finish his career in ERC. But after DQ in Ireland he stopped ERC programme and moved to lower events like ERT or Mitropa where he had bigger chance to win...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Had a quick chat with Craig Breen at Rally GB today and he was very non-committal regarding 2016... I think it may be a while before he sorts out his next drive..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/EddieFocus/2015-11-12%2012.50.28_zpse8400xeg.jpg

Last outing in that 208T16...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/EddieFocus/2015-11-12%2013.42.17_zps4wnosjjy.jpg

[Mirek]

Breen runs WRC2 for his family money. It's not Peugeot program.

[kbalaazs]

Like boys wrote, it was Hideg who wanted finish his career in ERC. But after DQ in Ireland he stopped ERC programme and moved to lower events like ERT or Mitropa where he had bigger chance to win...

Isnt the bigger chance to win. Not so expensive, and far events from central Europe.

[Reis Eduardo]

According to reports the Autosport.pt, Basso will return to ERC
http://autosport.pt/giandomenico-basso-de-regresso-ao-erc=f141068

[Andre Oliveira]

Basso? Fantastic :) what a great driver. Those glory days of IRC with Basso, Vouilloz, Ojeda, Meeke,....

[Mirek]

I'm really skeptical about anything coming from autosport.pt but I'll be really happy if it's true.

[RS]

I'm really sceptical about anything good happening with Basso too but i also wish it were true.

[Reis Eduardo]

According to reports the Autosport.pt, Basso will return to ERC
http://autosport.pt/giandomenico-basso-de-regresso-ao-erc=f141068

I spoke to a friend in Italian connected to Basso, who told me that the news is false and baseless. Unfortunately. :mad:

[AL14]

Regarding italian drivers it is real news that Scattolon will be driving a Mitsu in ERC next year. I think it is a good move.

But what I'm most interested in is the future of Andolfi he showed great speed in jwrc in the last rallys with very little experience, especially on gravel. Not only he won his category but also was close to wrc3 winners.

[skarderud]

Regarding italian drivers it is real news that Scattolon will be driving a Mitsu in ERC next year. I think it is a good move.

But what I'm most interested in is the future of Andolfi he showed great speed in jwrc in the last rallys with very little experience, especially on gravel. Not only he won his category but also was close to wrc3 winners.
The mirage R5?
Its got National homologation in sweden and UK at least, If its homologated in the rest of europe in 2016 its good!

[AL14]

The mirage R5?
Its got National homologation in sweden and UK at least, If its homologated in the rest of europe in 2016 its good!

No no, I guess in a Mitsubishi EVO. I don't think Scattolon is ready or can afford an R5.

[Jarek Z]

No no, I guess in a Mitsubishi EVO. I don't think Scattolon is ready or can afford an R5.

Giacomo Scattolon is going to drive Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X in the ERC2 category. More details can be found at
http://www.fiaerc.com/scattolon-plans-long-term-erc-programme/

[PLuto]

Regarding italian drivers it is real news that Scattolon will be driving a Mitsu in ERC next year. I think it is a good move.

But what I'm most interested in is the future of Andolfi he showed great speed in jwrc in the last rallys with very little experience, especially on gravel. Not only he won his category but also was close to wrc3 winners.

Fabio didnt won JWRC, he was not competing there. He was competing "only" in WRC3. And almost nobody noticed his speed, like with Andrea Crugnola...

[PLuto]

The mirage R5?
Its got National homologation in sweden and UK at least, If its homologated in the rest of europe in 2016 its good!

I think there is not so big chance for more homologation over Europe. Maybe some national ones, but for sure no international homologation...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great news for 2016 Fiesta R5 ! :)

http://www.m-sport.co.uk/m-sport-news/fiesta-r5/m-sport-announce-substantial-ford-fiesta-r5-upgrade.html

[TWRC]

Great news for 2016 Fiesta R5 ! :)

http://www.m-sport.co.uk/m-sport-news/fiesta-r5/m-sport-announce-substantial-ford-fiesta-r5-upgrade.html
Now Ford will be even better, Fabia is great, Hyundai is coming, so it will be interesting if PSA will do anything over the winter, or they will be too distracted with all the new WRC and Dakar things...

[Rally Power]

Unfortunately, it seems there's no hope for autosport.pt guys...this time they're saying Rally du Valais is undergoing negotiations with RB/MH to get into 2017 WRC calendar!?! They also mention RIV organizer's claiming that Eurosport Events hasn't fulfill their contract arrangements.

http://autosport.pt/rallye-du-valais-no-wrc=f141126

[Andre Oliveira]

I readed the same many days ago. Not invention of autosport.pt

[Rally Power]

I think there is not so big chance for more homologation over Europe. Maybe some national ones, but for sure no international homologation...

Sad news. It won't do any harm to Mitsu let the Mirage getting FIA homologation. The car is having a restyle soon and the R5 car could give a help to promote it.

[Rally Power]

I readed the same many days ago. Not invention of autosport.pt

So, someone else invent it and they publish it anyway...good job!

[RICARDO75]

So, someone else invent it and they publish it anyway...good job!

The problem is not the autosport.pt, but one of the journalists who publish everything that finds on the internet. His colleagues are good journalists, but there's one of theme that shouldn't be there.

[vino_93]

So, someone else invent it and they publish it anyway...good job!

It's more than one year that there are talks that RIV wants to join WRC.

[Rally Power]

It's more than one year that there are talks that RIV wants to join WRC.

Every international rally organizer dreams with their event being part of WRC and some manage to express their will to FIA or the WRC promoters, but there's a big difference between wanting and being able to. Any reasonable journo should know it and clear it up before publishing a matter like this.

[Andre Oliveira]

I saw declarations of the organizor. Can't remember the source to share here.

[skarderud]

Petter Kristiansen drives full ERC next year!

[Simmi]

Do you know whether he'll move up to an R5 car?

[Walach]

Petter Kristiansen drives full ERC next year!

Well if you just decided to fund it, Petter will be definitely happy to drive full ERC so just let him know. Otherwise you are wrong.
Petter said his goals for 2016 are at least 4 rallies in ERC. There was even an article in newspaper yesterday.

[skarderud]

Working with the final funding, õrsak has the car.

[vino_93]

I saw declarations of the organizor. Can't remember the source to share here.

http://www.info-rallye.ch/news

Go to http://www.info-rallye.ch/news

The organizor says "We met the WRC promotor one year ago. He said us that with the needed budget, we could host WRC from 2016." ... "Now, we need to talk with the promotor to know if it's still timely. And if it is, we will do a request to the canton".

But the project has to face the Winter Olympics Game (2026) it seems.

[Andre Oliveira]

Exactly my friend :)

[PLuto]

To be in WRC, you need only two things - money and good friends in FIA. Quality of the event is not important (as we can see from the history)...

[Rally Power]

To be in WRC, you need only two things - money and good friends in FIA. Quality of the event is not important (as we can see from the history)...

Come on Pluto, WRC needs to get worldwide and the Chinese join up is a consensual one. And we've seen well funded events being sacked (Jordan, Japan, Turkey) or refused (Brasil, South Africa) from WRC.

Btw, the best examples of a "sold out" calendar still are last IRC's years...

[N.O.T]

To be in WRC, you need only two things - money and good friends in FIA. Quality of the event is not important (as we can see from the history)...

This is how the world works... why should it be different int he WRC ?

[AL14]

Fabio didnt won JWRC, he was not competing there. He was competing "only" in WRC3. And almost nobody noticed his speed, like with Andrea Crugnola...

Yes he was in wrc3, you're right. But was first on his class (rc4) and I think that it showed speed or at least had a very good performance considering his little experience in international level.
If a few else noticed it is not on my interest. Being italian I had a bit more attention on what he did, and I hope he will have more chances to improve and see where he can go.

[PLuto]

Come on Pluto, WRC needs to get worldwide and the Chinese join up is a consensual one. And we've seen well funded events being sacked (Jordan, Japan, Turkey) or refused (Brasil, South Africa) from WRC.

Btw, the best examples of a "sold out" calendar still are last IRC's years...

You didnt understand my point. I am not talking about China or other events. I am only noticing, that if some organisers like Valais wants to go into WRC, primary they must find enough money and then they must be good with politics at FIA. Nothing else...

But this is thread about ERC (where the situation is very similar).

[PLuto]

Yes he was in wrc3, you're right. But was first on his class (rc4) and I think that it showed speed or at least had a very good performance considering his little experience in international level.
If a few else noticed it is not on my interest. Being italian I had a bit more attention on what he did, and I hope he will have more chances to improve and see where he can go.

To be first in class RC4 on most of events (especially where Dmack Fiesta Cup was not starting) is nothing... Of course I was trying to follow results of Fabio and Andrea as I know them both very well, but it was very difficult to find anything about them (except stage times)...

[EstWRC]

Estonian young talent Karl Martin Volver with Peugeot 208 VTi R2 will take part in four rallies next season (Rally Liepaja), (Ypres Rally), Rally Estonial and (Barum Rally). Will be watching him closely.

[Mirek]

He has a great name for a driver. I think that in Spanish it means something like "to turn" :)

[Andre Oliveira]

Yes, same word here at Portugal, volver is turn back

[EstWRC]

For sure his nickname in the future will be Revolver

[Jasper]

Estonian young talent Karl Martin Volver with Peugeot 208 VTi R2 will take part in four rallies next season (Rally Liepaja), (Ypres Rally), Rally Estonial and (Barum Rally). Will be watching him closely.

Date of birth: 27/2/1999? Is this correct? So in 2016 he will be 17? I don't think he will be alowed to drive in Belgium.

[EstWRC]

It is correct.i dont know about that, maybe he got some special deal?

[Jasper]

It is correct.i dont know about that, maybe he got some special deal?

I don't know if that's possible. I do know Pieter Jan Michiel Cracco went to Estonia to drive rally before his 18° birthday... http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=33306 I also see he drove a rally in Belgium before his 18° birthday (rallye de hannut). Maybe he could fix something with the organisation. But Ypres isn't rallye de hannut offcourse...

[mousti]

If he is doing Junior ERC he is falling under FIA and I think they allow it because Kruuda did some ERC or WRC events under 18?

[liposh]

So most probably it is (technically) possible to receive exception from FIA but it costs a lot of money. (I see that as only possible reason why only Kruuda had it during last 10 years)

[Mirek]

I don't think there is some kind of universal FIA exception. In my opinion it must be negotiated on national level in every country. I think it was like that with Kruuda on Barum rally but I'm not sure.

[PLuto]

Like Mirek told, regarding this issue it is nothing about FIA, but about local rules in every country.

[tommeke_B]

PJM Cracco participated in WRC Rally de Portugal in 2013, he was 17 years old at that time. It depends on the local law indeed. I think in most countries you are allowed to drive if you have a valid drivers license (from any country), no matter what age. With PJM Cracco they did only one event because it was a difficult situation, being actually Belgian, and in Belgium you shouldn't drive before the age of 18... He had an Estonian nationality/drivers license/competition license just for rallying.

[Andre Oliveira]

In Portugal we can't driver until 18. Maybe the codriver drove on laison?

[tommeke_B]

In Portugal we can't driver until 18. Maybe the codriver drove on laison?

No, he didn't (at least not for most of the road sections).

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kajto to defend ERC title ??

http://www.fiaerc.com/king-kajto-could-try-to-stay-on-his-erc-throne/

[RS]

Kajto to defend ERC title ??

http://www.fiaerc.com/king-kajto-could-try-to-stay-on-his-erc-throne/

I hope so. If we lose Kajto and Breen next year is not looking so good.

[Jarek Z]

Kajto is leading Rally Barborka after SS4. Still 3 stages to go.
Live results:
http://rajdy.autoklub.pl/results/live/id/3971?ss=4&rr=0

The last stage, on the famous Karowa street in the centre of Warsaw, will be broadcasted live on TVP Sport on Saturday at 18:15 CET:
http://sport.tvp.pl/na-antenie

If you have satellite tv, try it! It's a nice show on slippery cobblestones :)

https://scontent.fwaw3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/12360117_1108473335852600_8608239122351293681_n.jp g?oh=0c961e5f072d7a6cce2964f50b44c8da&oe=57199A17

[Co-driven]

What car is he using?
WRC spec or that proto with Evo X engine?

[TWRC]

What car is he using?
WRC spec or that proto with Evo X engine?
It's R5+.

[mousti]

What car is he using?
WRC spec or that proto with Evo X engine?

Bouffier is driving again with the proto

[Jarek Z]

And... just another rally won by Kajto this year! :)

Final results - 53. RAJD BARBÓRKA
1. Kajetan Kajetanowicz/Jarek Baran - Ford Fiesta R5+ 16.15,16
2. Rafał Grzesiński/Mateusz Tutaj - Ford Fiesta VS +8,01
3. Michał Ratajczyk/Jędrzej Szcześniak - Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX +8,29
4. Wojciech Chuchała/Sebastian Rozwadowski - Subaru Impreza WRC S5 +11,04
5. Maciej Oleksowicz/Michał Kuśnierz - Ford Fiesta R5+ +12,97
6. Marcin Gagacki/Marcin Bilski - Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX +15,66
7. Tomasz Kuchar/Daniel Dymurski - Ford Fiesta R5 +21,26
8. Grzegorz Grzyb/Robert Hundla - Ford Fiesta R5 +28,63
9. Jarosław Szeja/Marcin Szeja - Subaru Impreza WRX STI +32,42
10. Bryan Bouffier/Thibault de la Haye - Ford Fiesta Proto +34,93

http://www.autoklub.pl/news/foto/201512/news20151212_65105h.jpg

[Jarek Z]

One of the stages was held in front of the Polish National Stadium in Warsaw:

https://scontent.fwaw3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/12310503_1108636422502958_228592158525770450_n.png ?oh=caa4c760267bec0151348065b7fbb9ca&oe=56D6D6AD

[Sulland]

What car is he using?
WRC spec or that proto with Evo X engine?

R5 Evo1

[pantealex]

R5 Evo1

I don´t think so.

-WRC spoiler
-results say R5+

[br21]

Bodykit was from R5+, but I think he also had 2,0l engine, and not "customer" version of it, but with for sure different mapping and maybe also bigger restrictor.
But of course that is not the reason why he won - he won as he is best driver there.

[Jarek Z]

A word of explanation for our friends outside of Poland. Barborka Rally is our end-of-the-season rallysprint, where you can drive any car you want. A rally car, a racing car, a hillclimbing car, a rallycross car, a prototype, so it is quite common to see machines stronger than 300-400 HP. But this power will not give you much, because stages are very short and full of corners. It's a great event.

http://kajto.pl/news/b_699_0.jpg

[dimviii]

Consani full season with ds3 r5
http://www.rallye054.be/erc-nouvelle-saison-en-erc-pour-consani/

[Jarek Z]

If someone is interested, here is a 4-minute video showing Kajto in action on the Barborka Rally:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NinYzQ5-WzA

[mousti]

http://www.fiaerc.com/pirelli-becomes-official-supplier-of-fia-erc-junior-championship/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Bit of Rally Rzeszów info....

The newest round of the FIA European Rally Championship, Rally Rzeszów, will celebrate its 25th year next season.

Based in southeast Poland and scheduled to run from 5-7 August 2016, the event has been a mainstay of the Polish and Slovakian national championships for a number of years. Next year it will form round eight of the ERC making it the second largest motorsport event in Poland behind the country’s world championship counter.

The rally runs on narrow and winding roads in the Carpathian Foothills, and the route is characterised by steep ascents and acute descents. Two stages are planned through the centre of Rzeszów, which lies close to Slovakian and Ukrainian borders.

Fans attending the event next year will get the opportunity to watch young Polish drivers aiming to follow in the wheel tracks of ERC champion and national hero Kajetan Kajetanowicz.

Full details about the special stages will be revealed in the New Year.

[Mirek]

If You are interested how the stages look like here You have a lot of onboards from the promoter of Slovak championship. I'm not sure if it works to You. I'm currently in Italy and it seems not working here due to localization.

2014: http://www.mediaracing.sk/videa-archiv/1/on-board/?y=2014&nazov=rzeszow
2012: http://www.mediaracing.sk/videa-archiv/1/on-board/?y=2012&nazov=rzeszow

[br21]

rzeszowski will be held from thursday to saturday

[Sulland]

RøhneSelmer (RS) Motorsport with Frank Tore Larsen will do 3 rounds in 16 and full season in 17.
Maybe Selmer will try some round as well?.


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=no&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=no&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rohneselmer.no%2FRS-motorsport.aspx&edit-text=

RøhneSelmer is Norways largest Ford dealerships.

[garais22]

Sirmacis/Šimins will make a debut with ''Skoda Fabia R5'' in Rally Liepāja. They plan to participate in ERC Gravel Master
http://www.go4speed.lv/lv/news/erc/5290-sirmacis-simins-liepajas-erc-rallija-debites-ar-skoda-fabia-r5-/

[Jarek Z]

Sirmacis/Šimins will make a debut with ''Skoda Fabia R5'' in Rally Liepāja. They plan to participate in ERC Gravel Master
http://www.go4speed.lv/lv/news/erc/5290-sirmacis-simins-liepajas-erc-rallija-debites-ar-skoda-fabia-r5-/

Good news! Sirmacis seems to be a good driver in small cars, but is he good enough to handle bigger toys?

[Jarek Z]

Guys, do you think this driver would be good enough to compete in JERC? I think that after watching this video the CEO of FIAT should offer him a factory seat :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdBuwzRAEAw

[liposh]

I have been thinking a little bit and find out the ERC in 2016 returned into the look from days before merging with IRC. Anything from old good IRC didn´t remain, which is sad, because I thought the potential was/is bigger. Do you remember the days when Quesnel wanted to use his red army against green army of Skoda? Or Monte Carlo 2011? And now we have got few spectacular drivers like Consani, but Peugeot and Skoda etc. choose WRC2. Neither I nor Pluto understand it (because medial coverage of WRC2 is awful) but they did so. And there has to be some racional reason. Whatever it is, Eurosport is responsible for that.

[WUff1]

I have been thinking a little bit and find out the ERC in 2016 returned into the look from days before merging with IRC. Anything from old good IRC didn´t remain, which is sad, because I thought the potential was/is bigger. Do you remember the days when Quesnel wanted to use his red army against green army of Skoda? Or Monte Carlo 2011? And now we have got few spectacular drivers like Consani, but Peugeot and Skoda etc. choose WRC2. Neither I nor Pluto understand it (because medial coverage of WRC2 is awful) but they did so. And there has to be some racional reason. Whatever it is, Eurosport is responsible for that.

10 likes if I could!

Yes, any sign of influence of old IRC in new ERC seems to be gone by now.

And yes, it´s the fault of Eurosport. Some 20 minutes of rallying at midnight is not a real TV-coverage.

[Jarek Z]

Yes, it doesn't look good for the new year.

But to be honest, I have no idea why so many drivers want to drive in WRC2. How is it possible to be a sportsman and want to compete for the14th or 17th position?

[dodge33cymru]

Because they all fancy themselves as a WRC champion, however unreasonably.

Same reason so many young circuit racers pay fortunes for GP2 and GP3 rather than get paid for big sportscar races.

In one way, it's good; the talent is concentrated and we'll get a proper 'world' championship. The shame is the damage that could be done to the wider sport and the prestige of classic events.

Also, fewer events in the championship and manufacturers subsidising events might make it cheaper, as might your seven events being in western Europe.

[RS]

And yes, it´s the fault of Eurosport. Some 20 minutes of rallying at midnight is not a real TV-coverage.

It is still more than the 40 seconds (literally) that WRC2 gets.

One major factor is that Skoda have become a training ground for new VW WRC drivers. Without Skoda, WRC2 would still be pretty weak.

[PLuto]

Neither I nor Pluto understand it.

You havent read my article on AutoSport.CZ?

[Rally Power]

Link, please.

[Micke_VOC]

Yesterday in a radioshow about rally in Sweden, they told a rumor that Emil Bergkvist have secured a big deal from both Pirelli and Eurosport for 2016-season. Looks that there are something going on....

[PLuto]

Change date for Rally Cyprus - new date is 07.-09.10. Full calendar is here: http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=17704

[garais22]

Good news! Sirmacis seems to be a good driver in small cars, but is he good enough to handle bigger toys?

I think yes. In this years first rally (Alūksne, winter) Ralfs make a debut with 4wd car (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX RX and this is his only one rally with 4WD car)
And he wins this rally...He overtake Latvian rally legends like Jānis Vorobjovs and Andis Neikšāns..
http://www.ewrc-results.com/final.php?e=20464&t=Rally-Al363ksne-2015

[sindroms]

Raimonds Kisiels (LAT) is going to join ERC for at least five rounds - http://www.eurosport.co.uk/erc/kisiels-keen-on-added-erc-excitement_sto5045578/story.shtml

[PLuto]

Raimonds Kisiels (LAT) is going to join ERC for at least five rounds - http://www.eurosport.co.uk/erc/kisiels-keen-on-added-erc-excitement_sto5045578/story.shtml

No, reality is different. He will do five LATVIAN events with Fabia R5 including ERC round in Liepaja. But there is possibility to add another event (maybe from ERC).

[Mirek]

Łukasz Pieniążek (PL) a Domink Brož (CZ) shall be new JERC drivers.

[pucky54]

Łukasz Pieniążek (PL) a Domink Brož (CZ) shall be new JERC drivers.

Pieniążek new? He was already doing JERC last season!

[Mirek]

OK, wrong word. I meant newly announced ;) Anyway he switches to Opel.

[CWJ]

OK, wrong word. I meant newly announced ;) Anyway he switches to Opel.

https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/1918547_1149677761710972_8033319681571652789_n.jpg ?oh=7306d24e96711d47924337ba63fd4e43&oe=57479E37

Acc. to Facebook, there could come more...

[PLuto]

According to his previous posts, he finished with Peugeot UK...

[itix]

https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/1918547_1149677761710972_8033319681571652789_n.jpg ?oh=7306d24e96711d47924337ba63fd4e43&oe=57479E37

Acc. to Facebook, there could come more...
I know nothing about him other than that some calls him the next great from the great b, but if he uses promo material like that he has to be a likable guy!

[vino_93]

According to his previous posts, he finished with Peugeot UK...

don't understand why Peugeot UK invested on a guy to do JERC and then ... nothing. Whereas BRC is back ...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kajto website:

"I see that much of you interested in what we do in the season 2016. This is understandable and cool at the same time, as well as motivating. Thank you for your interest, but I ask you to be patient - together with our partners are working hard on the program for the season 2016... "

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Chris Ingram Rallying today-

The 2016 plan is coming together perfectly! So excited to begin.

The ERC season begins next month, would love to be back for a title fight !

[focus206]

Such a shame seeing so few drivers interested in ERC while so many are in WRC2, especially when I consider ERC a more interesting championship. Who do we have confirmed for 2016? In RC2 I've heard of Consani and Lukyanuk, maybe Kajto, and then?

[Mirek]

From CZ Tarabus, Tlusťák (not really interesting driver), Jakeš is also possible and some events maybe also Odložilík (Latvia and Barum at least). Hudec might do something too but I don't know. Štajf with gr.N car and hopefully Kopáček in one or two events too.

Botka from Hungary switched to DS3 R5. He will do ERC.

[RS]

Chris Ingram Rallying today-

The 2016 plan is coming together perfectly! So excited to begin.

The ERC season begins next month, would love to be back for a title fight !

Hopefully he means an R5 and not the JERC title.

[PLuto]

Hopefully he means an R5 and not the JERC title.

He is writing that he wants to fight for title. So I think that it is clear ;)

[Fran2013]

Off course WRC2 is much better than the ERC...... it is the world championship. It is better to be fouth or fifth in the WRC2 than to be first in the ERC

[dodge33cymru]

It's also level 2 of the world championship and the media, even in the local country, cares not one iota. At the very least, winning the more prestigious ERC events gets far more recognition and coverage, even if just locally.

However, seems many of the drivers who want to get to the higher echelons are now expected to have event experience before reaching it.

[EightGear]

Off course WRC2 is much better than the ERC...... it is the world championship. It is better to be fouth or fifth in the WRC2 than to be first in the ERC
Don't kid yourself.

[Mirek]

Off course WRC2 is much better than the ERC...... it is the world championship. It is better to be fouth or fifth in the WRC2 than to be first in the ERC

I can tell You one thing.... when You win Ypres a crowd of thousands will celebrate Your victory on the packed square under the fireworks and the celebration of Your victory will take whole night. When You win WRC2 You just drive over the finish ramp as nobody really cares about somebody who finished 15th overall.

Same goes to media attention. When Škoda was winning rallies in IRC/ERC our media were full of it. In 2015 You can't find an article saything they won something in WRC. You can just find that "Prokop finished 8th, Kopecký 12th". And that's all. Tell me what is good about that?

WRC2 is good for someone who wants to step in WRC or wants to drive WRC events because it is WORLD rally championship. Still the public or media recognition of WRC2 winners is close to zero. For manufacturer PR it's just wasted money.

[Jarek Z]

Off course WRC2 is much better than the ERC...... it is the world championship. It is better to be fouth or fifth in the WRC2 than to be first in the ERC

Maciej Oleksowicz was 5th in WRC2/SWRC in 2012. Everybody forgot about it on the next day.
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc-2/results/championship/archive/page/2186-256---.html

[mousti]

Off course WRC2 is much better than the ERC...... it is the world championship. It is better to be fouth or fifth in the WRC2 than to be first in the ERC

No not for me though, only thing it's interesting for youngsters to learn the WRC stages in a quite competitive atmosphere with a 4wd car. Nobody cares about Pons being a world champion or Breen or ... .... ...

[Jarek Z]

Because they all fancy themselves as a WRC champion, however unreasonably.

Same reason so many young circuit racers pay fortunes for GP2 and GP3 rather than get paid for big sportscar races.

In one way, it's good; the talent is concentrated and we'll get a proper 'world' championship. The shame is the damage that could be done to the wider sport and the prestige of classic events.

Thanks for your reply. I know what you mean. But I still don't understand it. It cannot be true that Armin Kremer (47 years old), Jourdan Serderidis (51 years old), Jean-Michel Raoux (44 years old) or Lambros Athanassoulas (39 years old), who entered WRC2 on this year's Monte, see themselves as future world rally champions :)

I don't know how much weed they would have to smoke to believe it ;)

But still - good luck to all of them!

[Jarek Z]

Nobody cares about Pons being a world champion or Breen or ... .... ...

... or the 51-year-old Jourdan Serderidis! :D

[WUff1]

Off course WRC2 is much better than the ERC...... it is the world championship. It is better to be fouth or fifth in the WRC2 than to be first in the ERC

That´s bullshit.

[N.O.T]

Off course WRC2 is much better than the ERC...... it is the world championship. It is better to be fouth or fifth in the WRC2 than to be first in the ERC

both WRC2 and ERC are nothing, they are the laughing stock of rallying full of nobodies and neverbeens.

[RS]

both WRC2 and ERC are nothing, they are the laughing stock of rallying full of nobodies and neverbeens.

Where do you think the next talents are going to come from?

[stefanvv]

Where do you think the next talents are going to come from?

Just a guess - FFSA. But they appear like Halley's Comet - every 75-76 years.....

[PLuto]

Off course WRC2 is much better than the ERC...... it is the world championship. It is better to be fouth or fifth in the WRC2 than to be first in the ERC

That is not true...

[PLuto]

It's also level 2 of the world championship and the media, even in the local country, cares not one iota. At the very least, winning the more prestigious ERC events gets far more recognition and coverage, even if just locally.

However, seems many of the drivers who want to get to the higher echelons are now expected to have event experience before reaching it.

I am not 100% sure that in reality it is important, when you are young, to know WRC stages to be successful there. Of course, it is one of the aspects. But not only one. And in other aspects it is better not to hurry up to WRC and spend money for gaining experience and developing more effectively. But it is same like in other sports - if you have money or potential, immediatelly you have lot of "helpers" around who primary wants to gain some money from you. And for sure you must spend more money for WRC than other opportunities...

[dodge33cymru]

I agree with you completely, but it would seem to indicate that, within the rallying community at least, WRC Promoter is doing a better job at Eurosport at attracting these entries or persuading them that WRC2 is a better value, more attractive package.

[PLuto]

I agree with you completely, but it would seem to indicate that, within the rallying community at least, WRC Promoter is doing a better job at Eurosport at attracting these entries or persuading them that WRC2 is a better value, more attractive package.

For sure this is not about WRC Promoter, they did nothing. Same like FIA. Eurosport is at least trying to attract/persuade drivers, despite I think, it should be done better. But presence of so many crews in WRC2 is mainly because of "helpers" and "intriguers" I have described in my previous message.

[RS]

Same goes to media attention. When Škoda was winning rallies in IRC/ERC our media were full of it. In 2015 You can't find an article saything they won something in WRC. You can just find that "Prokop finished 8th, Kopecký 12th". And that's all. Tell me what is good about that?

WRC2 is good for someone who wants to step in WRC or wants to drive WRC events because it is WORLD rally championship. Still the public or media recognition of WRC2 winners is close to zero. For manufacturer PR it's just wasted money.

I hope VW is financially contributing to the 'youth training scheme' that Skoda are running for them then.

[Rally Power]

For sure this is not about WRC Promoter, they did nothing. Same like FIA. Eurosport is at least trying to attract/persuade drivers, despite I think, it should be done better. But presence of so many crews in WRC2 is mainly because of "helpers" and "intriguers" I have described in my previous message.

No doubt WRC promoter has very little to do with WRC2 revamp, but it's fair to say that Junior WRC is a strong category since 2001 and there was always WRC competitions for 2nd level rally manus (F2, Gr.N, etc).

To the young drivers coming from Junior WRC or WRC3 and to those 2nd level rally manus having a chance to get into WRC, it makes sense to be in WRC2.

[PLuto]

Jose Luis Jacquet Rios from Paraguay will do selected rounds in ERC2 - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=17883

[Sulland]

Steve Røkland will do
FIA ERC JUNIOR 2016:
05-07/2 (http://www.motorsportforums.com/x-apple-data-detectors://10): Rally Liepaja, Latvia. (Grus/Snö) (J)
07-09/4 (http://www.motorsportforums.com/x-apple-data-detectors://11): Circuit of Ireland Rally, Irland. (Asfalt) (J)
02-04/6 (http://www.motorsportforums.com/x-apple-data-detectors://12): Sata Rallye Acores, Portugal. (Grus) (J)
23-25/6 (http://www.motorsportforums.com/x-apple-data-detectors://13): Kenotek by Cid Lines Ypres Rally, Belgia. (Asfalt) (J)
15-17/7 (http://www.motorsportforums.com/x-apple-data-detectors://14): auto24 Rally Estonia, Estland. (Grus) (J)
26-28/8 (http://www.motorsportforums.com/x-apple-data-detectors://15): Barum Czech Rally Zlin, Tsjekkia. (Asfalt) (J)

He will continue with his Peugeot 208 R2, with support from Bertel O Sten, Norwegian Peugeot Importer, and from Peugeot Sport.

He is aiming for podiums, and the top spot after the season is over!

[CWJ]

Rumors from Austria for 3 Opel R2 works cars with 3 girls codriving :)

[Mirek]

You mean Austrian crews? I remember from my several trips to Austrian events that it looked there like most of the co-drivers were girls :)