Rrc ?

[SkodaR5]

Nasser said he going to change his RRC to R5 in next event .. what are the difference between RRC and R5 rally car ?
he said the R5 is better in the asphalt than RRC which is better in the gravel ... !

[TWRC]

Nasser said he going to change his RRC to R5 in next event .. what are the difference between RRC and R5 rally car ?
he said the R5 is better in the asphalt than RRC which is better in the gravel ... !
Basically, the RRC is a WRC with smaller restrictor, a bit different flywheel, brakes and not as fancy aero parts as you can find on the WRCs; they can be converted to one another using a kit in 6 hours. The R5 is a much cheaper car with a 5 gear gearbox opposed to the RRC's six, it has many parts that are not custom-made racing parts but sometimes ones that you can find in street cars, and have a lot of interchangable parts particularly in the suspension. This results in that the R5 is not as bulletproof as the RRC (that's why he said RRC is better for gravel), but the R5 has more power due to the larger restrictor, and it has more grip as well if I'm correct. ;)

[Mirek]

More grip? How did You come to such conclusion?

[Ucci]

More grip? How did You come to such conclusion?

Aren't the brakes on RRC same as on WRC?

[Mirek]

What the hell have the brakes to do with grip? :confused:

[dimviii]

Aren't the brakes on RRC same as on WRC?

at gravel same,at asphalt smaller discs.

[RS]

at gravel same,at asphalt smaller discs.

and on R5?

[dimviii]

didnt understant your question RS.

Fiesta r5 for example at gravel= 300 x 28
asphalt=355 x 32

[Mirek]

The asphalt discs are for both 355 mm if I'm not mistaken. The difference with R5 is that they have also rear discs 355 mm big as they must have same with front axle due to the rules. Such big rear discs are not useful for braking anyway. It's just more unsprung mass. I think that WRC/RRC have 300 mm rear discs on asphalt.

[br21]

In general R5 accelerates better and RRC turns better. And of course RRC is stronger - stronger suspension, etc.

[Ucci]

What the hell have the brakes to do with grip? :confused:

Don't be upset, I just quoted, I know very well that no relation whatsoever between brakes and grip exists....

[Sulland]

Then we got the death penalty from FIA on the RRCs. Restrictor will be downsized for 2016 from 30mm to 28mm.
Then they will for sure not be competitive towards R5 at all any more.

I guess the ones out there will go to rallycross or WRC in national series.

[Andre Oliveira]

Here at Portugal, restrictor to RRC is 28. Results? No one interested on that car. Who will be at BRC next year?

For ERC/WRC i think no more RRC. Too risk, R5 will be the car :)

[PLuto]

In ERC, RRC cars are banned since next year...

[Luis Pacheco]

Here at Portugal, restrictor to RRC is 28.

Last year. This year RRC are not allowed.

[Andre Oliveira]

Yes, my bad :) last year Bernardo Sousa prefer use full RRC at Fafe like course car that do the rally with 28mm

[pantealex]

Finland: RRC allowed next year... (banned 2015)
so welcome to Finland RRC owners!

[Andre Oliveira]

And WRC?

[pantealex]

And WRC?

all 2.0L allowed in Finland next year

[Sulland]

Finland: RRC allowed next year... (banned 2015)
so welcome to Finland RRC owners!

Or all RRCs will be sold to Finland :D

[Andre Oliveira]

Restrictor?

[pantealex]

Restrictor?

2016 rules not ready, probably FIA2016

[Andre Oliveira]

So maybe we can forgot RRC :)

[WUff1]

Does anybody know to whom Pech sold his Mini RRC?

[Mirek]

It seems Pech will do one more event with it - the provisional ending of Czech championship, Rally Klatovy on 3rd October. I don't know who is the new owner though.

[Ucci]

all 2.0L allowed in Finland next year

Good decision!

[PLuto]

Good decision!

I dont think so, but it is their decision ;)

[PLuto]

It seems Pech will do one more event with it - the provisional ending of Czech championship, Rally Klatovy on 3rd October. I don't know who is the new owner though.

Maybe there is a chance to see him in more events with Mini...