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306 Cosworth
27th April 2015, 15:56
It's here for your enjoyment

https://youtu.be/OiU_1iud-VY

Steam - http://store.steampowered.com/app/310560

pino
27th April 2015, 16:03
Not for PS4 or XBox ???

makinen_fan
27th April 2015, 17:26
Another link with more info for anyone interested

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-04-27-dirt-rally-could-well-be-codemasters-first-real-sim

I havent played a rally game in ages but if this one is really a sim like RBR, I will have to try it!

pino
27th April 2015, 19:25
Interesting link thanks !

steve_spackman
28th April 2015, 00:36
Thanks for the link.

GigiGalliNo1
28th April 2015, 09:47
Xbox 360?

Mac??

spyros
28th April 2015, 12:22
hm..... silence out there,some are playing now,waiting players real review and pc specs.

Robinho
28th April 2015, 13:41
I'm interested, not sure it'll run well on my laptop, but might give it a go, excuse to splash $300 on a G27

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MrJan
28th April 2015, 17:59
Wow, looks like everything we've been asking for...as long as sound and handling match up. Like the idea of early access to allow fans to get involved and, hopefully, be able to improve the game during the polishing stage. Sadly my laptop (work issued) isn't even close to being up to the job of running it.

lewalcindor
28th April 2015, 21:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKxfSGM1cJA

pino
29th April 2015, 07:01
http://youtu.be/ZWnebLUI5Vw

MrJan
29th April 2015, 13:00
Watched this for a bit on Twitch last night and it looks really good, especially if it's just an early release and will be polished over time. Sounds great and looks like the guys were finding it hard work...best of all though is that the stages are reasonably narrow and a good design. Although to be fair, I think that some of the DiRT 3 DLC was moving in that direction, especially the Monte Carlo stage that was released.

lewalcindor
29th April 2015, 16:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJKBSs48fn4

MrJan
29th April 2015, 18:37
The more I see, the better it looks. The stage design is what many of us have been crying out for since rally game year dot. I'll be absolutely crushed if this doesn't come out on console, I simply can't legitimately spend the money on a decent enough PC to support this game properly.

Allyc85
29th April 2015, 21:53
Same with me sadly :(

This video of the Stratos at night is just incredible!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRwdkIQ7aGo

pino
29th April 2015, 22:07
I want this game for PS4 !!!!!!!! :D

lewalcindor
29th April 2015, 23:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QModsWuBPZk

pino
30th April 2015, 07:29
Guys please go to this link, and vote for a console version.

http://forums.codemasters.com/discussion/5808/dirt-rally-on-consoles?

Bruce D
30th April 2015, 10:04
My understanding is that they are using the pc guys as "guinea pigs" to solve the major issues and add more content and then when the main release happens in the last quarter of the year they will be releasing it for the consoles. I've seen more than one place where they have confirmed that it will come for consoles but just not yet. Maybe later in the early access period they'll release it in order for some to try and iron out the bugs on the them too.

Bruce D
30th April 2015, 10:07
People keep going on about the sound but my main complaint at this point would be that the Impreza and Delta Intergrale don't sound anything like the real life cars. Also from videos it seems like all the cars sound underpowered or 1300cc versions of the cars, they don't sound like they're accelerating very quickly.

moto99
30th April 2015, 21:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKxfSGM1cJA
handbrake turns in Delta S4 - great...
so NOS system will be available as DLC?
just pure rallying -_-

MrJan
1st May 2015, 13:21
I've downloaded this anyway, and just have to run a very, very stripped back version to enable my computer to cope. The trouble is that my controller is as old as the hills and very cheap, so I'm still struggling a lot with the handling and finding it difficult to get through a stage in one piece and quicker than the clubman cars! Think I may spend the money on a dealy so that I can use a 360 controller rather than one that still has just a D-pad.

Love the stages (even if some of the Monte ones seem familiar from DiRT 3's DLC) and the way that cars handle under power. Only real negative that I've found is that sometimes you hit a tiny bump at 40mph and it throws you off the edge of the world.

EightGear
1st May 2015, 14:11
Steering is very sensitive and FFB is quite crap. Definitely potential though, but far far away from a proper sim.

lewalcindor
4th May 2015, 18:41
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_mIucs6sJ0

spyros
5th May 2015, 13:13
Steering is very sensitive and FFB is quite crap. Definitely potential though, but far far away from a proper sim.


Best rally game in a decate,its not perfect but it has potential.

MrJan
5th May 2015, 14:28
Steering is very sensitive and FFB is quite crap. Definitely potential though, but far far away from a proper sim.

Turn the sensitivity down a bit then. I was struggling an awful lot but have played about with the linearity and sensitivity and it's made a big difference.

I never understand why people want a 'proper sim', it would be downright unpleasant.

EightGear
6th May 2015, 19:40
Turn the sensitivity down a bit then. I was struggling an awful lot but have played about with the linearity and sensitivity and it's made a big difference.

I never understand why people want a 'proper sim', it would be downright unpleasant.

Different people, different wishes then I guess. I only ever drive sims, I'd love a full blown rally sim.

DiRT Rally is still a fun game though, there's a file which improves the FFB quite a bit. My main issues are the tarmac physics which are way off and the fact it's possible to brake extremely late.

By the way, Kevin Abbring has been playing it quite a bit and has set some fastest times on the 'Daily challenge' events. Here's an onboard with him in an M3 on Sweet Lamb:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnPuk2ECaIQ

pino
6th May 2015, 19:52
Wish I could play it too :(

MrJan
6th May 2015, 20:04
Different people, different wishes then I guess. I only ever drive sims, I'd love a full blown rally sim.


My point about a 100% simulation is that you would never be anywhere close to competitive or good enough...unless you're a WRC class driver. I just don't think that a super real game is going to be that interesting, even for those that frequently say they want an all outsim.

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
7th May 2015, 18:41
I wonder if we'll have Toyota Rally Pack..? (Celica, Corolla, Yaris, and GT86)

raybak
13th May 2015, 11:46
I have an all out SIM, it's called my rally car:) Getting used this weekend as well:)

Ray

Zico
14th May 2015, 00:11
Initial impressions- Looks the part, the stages look very nice and the draw distance is very far. The physics and ffb still need a LOT of work though, too much grip, traction, not enough weight inertia/momentum, you can merely change down without braking for about 90% of the corners... brakes are also too effective.

Lets hope they are able to make it a RSRBR beater, they have a lot to do yet tho..

Allyc85
17th May 2015, 19:30
DiRT Rally vs Real Life | Sweet Lamb - Ford Fiesta WRC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vByLmmLqEZE

RAS007
22nd May 2015, 03:07
DiRT Rally vs Real Life | Sweet Lamb - Ford Fiesta WRC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vByLmmLqEZE

Wow! That looks terrific. Is this ever going to be released on PS3/4?

MrJan
26th May 2015, 19:21
Wow! That looks terrific. Is this ever going to be released on PS3/4?

PS3 almost certainly not, but I suspect that they are going to look at demand for the Early Access version and guage if it's worth a console release...if that's the case then the Early Access will probably be treated much like a very advanced Beta.

pino
16th June 2015, 22:06
http://youtu.be/yWJGKjNu__U

Great stuff !

MartijnS
2nd July 2015, 19:13
Germany, with Panzerplatte. Looks great! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbPKtFnG3WY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Xr6dIIbFo

MrJan
3rd July 2015, 14:50
First pictures of the Holjes rallycross track and some other cars...looks great!

http://www.videogamer.com/pc/dirt_rally/screenshots.html

EightGear
6th July 2015, 17:32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxvbSJPB4go

About 7:34 to 13:40 is one of the DiRT Rally stages. :)

Francis44
6th July 2015, 22:43
Just got a new graphics card and this and I have to say I am having a blast. For me as of now the only problem is the lack of any recent rally cars, plus the Fiesta WRC and the Mini have really outdated models. I read the Codies will have an R5 pack by October, and that is hugely exciting.

The stage design is very good, I think Greece and GB have the most exciting stages to drive in, they feel so realistic.

MrJan
8th July 2015, 21:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxvbSJPB4go

About 7:34 to 13:40 is one of the DiRT Rally stages. :)

Yes! Nice find, I spent hours driving that stage at the weekend and they've got it spot on in so many places...although I think it's a bit narrower in the game :D

Fast Eddie WRC
3rd August 2015, 22:09
World RX update now released !

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLWCmt6WwAAGp_0.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEREZTz07Co

MrJan
3rd August 2015, 22:57
World RX update now released !

Been playing it all evening, so much fun. They've said that the AI is a bit slow until they get a gauge on how quick people are, and given that I can win events on Very Hard I'm guessing that there will be big changes to come. Still great fun getting in a dice though.

Unfortunately this game is going to cost me more than £25...in fact it's going to cost me a lot more. I'm soon moving company to a place with a much stricter IT policy, which means I loose my laptop and anything even close to being capable of running it. So in the interests of giving the game a fair chance I'm going to have to get proper PC. Unfortunately I know nothing, anyone got advice on what's a half decent spec to look for? (or more importantly, what to avoid). I'm a casual game but would like to be able to run DiRT to a pretty high standard. I'm not averse to going for a 'custom' option, but definitely won't be up to building it myself.

Jack4688`
3rd August 2015, 23:04
Just gave it a go and it crashed after long loading times.... Could be down to me having a very basic laptop! Back to hooning around in the quattro and the M3 by myself, still worth the money though

Fast Eddie WRC
4th August 2015, 00:03
I've been waiting for World RX to be released before buying but now I'm thinking again in case my PC can't run it very well... :(

An internet site says I only have the minimum spec and I cant afford to change my PC..

Bruce D
4th August 2015, 13:28
Been playing it all evening, so much fun. They've said that the AI is a bit slow until they get a gauge on how quick people are, and given that I can win events on Very Hard I'm guessing that there will be big changes to come. Still great fun getting in a dice though.

Unfortunately this game is going to cost me more than £25...in fact it's going to cost me a lot more. I'm soon moving company to a place with a much stricter IT policy, which means I loose my laptop and anything even close to being capable of running it. So in the interests of giving the game a fair chance I'm going to have to get proper PC. Unfortunately I know nothing, anyone got advice on what's a half decent spec to look for? (or more importantly, what to avoid). I'm a casual game but would like to be able to run DiRT to a pretty high standard. I'm not averse to going for a 'custom' option, but definitely won't be up to building it myself.

Well the good side is that you won't have to buy the game again as you can just reload your Steam profile on the new pc.

A site I always use for checking out specs for specific games and which can guide you as to what the pc you find can do is www.game-debate.com. The Dirt Rally page is http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=4320&game=Dirt%20Rally

Just put in your specs and it will tell you whether that spec is useful or not. Will help a lot with picking the right pc. The problem is these new pc components are so complicated to try and understand that it's hard to pick the right thing but this site does help make it a lot simpler, especially as it breaks down what the weak link in that setup will be.

MrJan
4th August 2015, 14:03
I've been waiting for World RX to be released before buying but now I'm thinking again in case my PC can't run it very well... :(

An internet site says I only have the minimum spec and I cant afford to change my PC..

If it helps, my laptop has Intel i5-3230M @2.60GHz, 4GB RAM and Intel HD4000 graphics which is apparently 1.8GB. It runs the game in pretty much the most basic form, and can sometimes cope with some of the settings being upped a bit (depending on what's processing in the background. If you've got anything equal or better than this then I'd suggest that you can probably run it okay. Graphics obviously don't look great by current standards, but it's still better than PS2 level IMO.

Jack4688`
4th August 2015, 17:47
My laptop is just about at the minimum requirements if my memory serves. RX is clearly not an option for me but running around on my own on the stages with the graphics set at minimum works fine. Some people wouldn't put up with the graphics but they're OK really, the scenery and the shapes of the cars are fine it's just a few blurry sponsor logos on the cars. The brilliant physics behind it all more than makes up for any shortcomings as a result of my PC spec

Fast Eddie WRC
4th August 2015, 22:11
My PC will run DiRT3 with graphics set at 'high' so I think it will at least run DiRT Rally at some level... :)

I'm a casual gamer so I'm not that bothered about it looking amazing, just that the gameplay is good and having the latest RX cars to drive.

Been waiting ages for this and had to make do with playing CMR2 in Arcade with skins of the latest RX cars...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/EddieFocus/NewRXcarscopy_zpsb0794914.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/EddieFocus/RXcars2copy_zps768f7e74.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/EddieFocus/RXaction1_zps5868eb33.jpg

mousti
15th August 2015, 14:19
Codemasters contacted Ryan Champion to record sounds of his 555, so that one will have authentic sounds, and those are Iconic! :D

dominiquegalland
24th August 2015, 22:21
Mousti is that for real? How do you know?
Dominique Galland

mousti
24th August 2015, 23:33
Mousti is that for real? How do you know?
Dominique Galland

Saw it on Champion's his facebook

MrJan
25th August 2015, 23:23
New update out for RX, including the DS3, JRM Mini and Isaachsen's Impreza...plus Hell and rain! Sadly I'm just about to change jobs and hand back my laptop, so I've had to uninstall Steam and will have to wait until I can afford a new PC :(

Sent from my K00L using Tapatalk

EightGear
25th August 2015, 23:47
And most important of all: RX multiplayer!

Jack4688`
26th August 2015, 10:47
The biggest thing for me was they fixed a bug with the sound on gravel - all noises (co-driver, engine, the gravel itself) would go all juddery and as if they were under water. I was driving myself crazy thinking that my PC was just too slow for the game and trying to find ways of making more efficient use of my PC's RAM (and other things I don't understand lol), even though it worked fine when I first started playing.

Spent about 2 1/2 hours driving through Powys in the sport quattro yesterday :) Best rally game ever!

GigiGalliNo1
9th October 2015, 18:08
Any news on Dirt for console???

Fast Eddie WRC
10th October 2015, 17:47
Dont suppose anyone knows how to convert a car from DiRT Rally to use in DiRT 3 ?

I believe the files for both games are very similar and can be converted using 'EGO Pssg editor', but I dont know how to do this...

I want to use the Fiesta 2015 WRC in DiRT 3.. If anyone wants the file its available here: http://mesa.extra.hu/index.php/en/downloads/dirtrally/268-dirt-m-sport-ott-tanak

Cheers !

MrJan
14th October 2015, 23:28
Finally ordered a decent computer, so hopefully by the end of next week I'll finally be able to play this game again. Even better, for the first time in my life I'll have a PC that might be able to play a game without lowering all the graphics settings :D

GigiGalliNo1
16th October 2015, 11:21
DIRT for CONSOLE!!

MrJan
4th November 2015, 19:34
My new PC finally turned up so, for the first time in months, I've been able to play Dirt again. It's like learning it all over again now that the handling has changed and having been used to Dirt 3 for a while. Loving Finland though, a 7 minute+ stage in the Quattro? Fantastic!!

Interesting to have a few of the updates, one important one being the noise on the 95 Impreza which was way off from realistic before. The noise of the new Evo when you're off the power is also absolutely spot on compared to the real thing, as is the Focus that they must have had help from Steve Perez for. Love hearing the noise of the cars in the forests, genuinely realistic even if I'm not on the throttle very often!

Jack4688`
7th November 2015, 03:22
What PC have you got? I think I may have to accept that my laptop is gradually lagging behind more and more each day to play this game acceptably.

MrJan
7th November 2015, 15:48
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-6600K (3.5GHz) 6MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® Z170-P: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM)
16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X FURY DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 960 - DVI, HDMI, 3 x DP - 3D Vision Ready
1st Hard Disk
1TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 32MB CACHE
M.2 SSD Drive
128GB M.2 2280, SATA 6Gb/s (510MB/R, 310MB/W)

Great for Dirt but seem to be having a few issues on COD where multiplayer gets a weird glare type effect in either bright yellow or purple in certain parts of the map. Have played around with all the in game settings but I'm new to PC gaming so don't really know what I'm doing. Strangely it seems to be worse on some maps than others :mark:

Brown, Jon Brow
29th November 2015, 18:22
Just downloaded Dirt Rally.

OMG! Brilliant but impossible.

The co-driver notes bare no resemblance to road in front of me. I was better with Nicky Grist on the old Colin McRae games.

pino
29th November 2015, 19:39
I am still waiting for PS4 version :D

MrJan
29th November 2015, 23:59
Just downloaded Dirt Rally.

OMG! Brilliant but impossible.

The co-driver notes bare no resemblance to road in front of me. I was better with Nicky Grist on the old Colin McRae games.

It does get easier with practice, although I've found the pacenotes to be, on the most part, reasonably accurate. The key for me was to spend some time in the Mini doing the championship, although it bounces all over the place it is a good way to get to grips with the handling.

EightGear
4th December 2015, 17:32
Sweden, Polo & i20 WRC coming very soon.

Fast Eddie WRC
4th December 2015, 18:02
http://blog.codemasters.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Sweden_VW_4_R.png

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
4th December 2015, 21:05
My wish is about to be true..

EightGear
7th December 2015, 14:55
Update is out now, also Early Acces has ended which means this is the V1.0 release.

And coming to consoles on April 5th.

GigiGalliNo1
8th December 2015, 05:48
Game is coming to consoles... but which? I have Xbox 360.... and don't think I'll get latest gen of any console for some time...

Alfa Fan
8th December 2015, 06:56
Just PS4 and XBOX1.

XBOX360 is over 10 years old now, about time they stopped supporting it really. The old consoles have been holding back multi-platform releases.

GigiGalliNo1
8th December 2015, 09:42
IT IS?!?!? 10 years?! Wow.... what am I missing out!? PS4 it is! Or One!

Jack4688`
8th December 2015, 18:08
Depends if you prefer Forza or Gran Turismo. I think I'll get a PS4 for DiRT and Gran Turismo 19 at some point

Frostmourne
11th December 2015, 20:34
Can anyone list please all cars available in the game? can't find it anywhere? And is it true Citroen DS3 WRC is not in the game?

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
11th December 2015, 21:36
60's= Fulvia, Mini
70's= Stratos, Escort Mk2, 131 Abarth, Kadett
Group B= Manta 400, RS200, 205 T16, Delta S4, Sport Quattro, 037, 6R4
Group A= Sierra, Impreza, Escort Cosworth, M3, Delta Integrale,
F2= 306, Ibiza
R4= Evo X, Impreza hatchback
WRC 2L= Colin's Focus, Burns' Impreza, C4, Focus
WRC 1.6= Mini concept, Fiesta, i20, Polo
RX= Polo, Fiesta, DS3, Mini, Impreza, 208
Hillclimb= 205, 405, S1

And still no DS3 WRC.

EightGear
11th December 2015, 21:38
No the DS3 WRC is not included (yet?).

MrJan
11th December 2015, 22:43
Can anyone list please all cars available in the game? can't find it anywhere? And is it true Citroen DS3 WRC is not in the game?

No WRC but they have got Petter's rallycross one. Getting the WRC cars that they managed to is quite impressive, considering there is currently an officially licensed game (WRC5) and another rally game on the cards (Seb Loeb Rally Evo)

306 Cosworth
12th December 2015, 12:46
There won't be a DS3 WRC in the game. Mainly because Citroen are assholes.

Jack4688`
12th December 2015, 13:40
Oh boohoo. Who gives a shit when you can drive around in an Audi Sport Quattro or a Subaru Impreza group A both with highly accurate engine noise

GigiGalliNo1
12th December 2015, 14:50
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo Grp. A VI?
WRC Evo VII?
Evo WRC2 from 2004/5?

Pug 206? 307?

Sorry my era is from the 2000's! :D

GigiGalliNo1
12th December 2015, 14:54
But i do love the 1990's WRCars!! Respell Escort?! Lancia?!

306 Cosworth
13th December 2015, 14:02
Repsol Lancia is in the game.

Here's a WR run up Pikes Peak from me in the Quattro

https://youtu.be/F5bVItMWyaw

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
13th December 2015, 16:40
Repsol Lancia is in the game.

Here's a WR run up Pikes Peak from me in the Quattro

https://youtu.be/F5bVItMWyaw
So, you're Rallycameraman..

Rallyper
13th December 2015, 19:04
Sweden is not like the real feeling on snowstages. You don´t feel snowbanks in the steering wheel before they hit you and your car. In real life you feel very much the snow banks long before anything happens when they start wanting to catch your car. Also hitting snowbanks are making too much consekvenses. Sometimes they are like mountains (mostly) and sometimes it just dont happens anything hittting them

306 Cosworth
13th December 2015, 19:18
So, you're Rallycameraman..

yes. yes I am

MrJan
18th December 2015, 13:51
yes. yes I am

Thought that was you popping up at the top of the leaderboard fairly often. I only use a 360 controller but amazed at how quick you guys at the top can be, on a long stage if I'm within 1 minute of the best time then I'm dead chuffed. For the shorter stages I usually end up around 40 seconds shy even if I have a reasonably quick run!

The only events where I actually seem to be close is the rallycross for some reason. The Lydden Hill one a couple of days ago I managed to get a top 75 finish out of 3900+ people, which I'm thoroughly pleased with myself about, but I was still 6 seconds off of top spot on what's actually quite a short event.

EightGear
18th December 2015, 15:53
For what it's worth: here's my run on a daily some weeks ago which was good enough for 3th place:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlzUPhDW0V4

GigiGalliNo1
22nd December 2015, 15:41
For what it's worth: here's my run on a daily some weeks ago which was good enough for 3th place:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlzUPhDW0V4

Are you freaking serious?!

That is awesome!

NEED this game on console! Gotta buy new console!!

Allyc85
22nd December 2015, 20:53
It does look incredible, I shall be getting an Xbox 1 when this comes out on it!

Quick question, are there many unique stages in each location, or is it like Dirt 3 with variations of a long stage?

EightGear
22nd December 2015, 21:00
It does look incredible, I shall be getting an Xbox 1 when this comes out on it!

Quick question, are there many unique stages in each location, or is it like Dirt 3 with variations of a long stage?
Basically what they do is pick 1 real life stage and cut that in 2. So you have 2 long stages (+/- 6 minutes in length). These are then split into two again and also reversed. So in total there are 12 stages per location (4 long, 8 short), of which 2 long ones are truly unique (the rest is reversed or split into half).

GigiGalliNo1
24th December 2015, 15:06
What is the career mode like?

I remember on previous dirt games I had to be a Rallycross driver and do the school and all that crap.

I want to just get into an era of a car and rally and drive in championship rounds...

MrJan
28th December 2015, 20:13
What is the career mode like?

I remember on previous dirt games I had to be a Rallycross driver and do the school and all that crap.

I want to just get into an era of a car and rally and drive in championship rounds...

It's just championships of different classes, the hillclimb and rallycross modes are completely separate championships. Worth doing though, in particular the rallycross because it's fun, easy and earns lots of credits.

GigiGalliNo1
29th December 2015, 16:15
Rallycross I know more about so happy to do!

GigiGalliNo1
1st January 2016, 05:20
Console date release?!

MrJan
2nd January 2016, 13:21
Console date release?!

April 5th.

I'm massively up and down on the daily stages, seems that RX and tarmac stages suit me, Sweden and Wales are a massive problem for me :D Manged 51st with the Mini on a German stage the other day which I'm delighted about, especially as I'm using a controller and it wasn't my cleanest stage either. Finished my first monthly event in 601st (right in the middle) and 19 minutes down. Learnt quite a bit though, during the early stages I was driving too quick and kept hitting things, which meant the car was badly damaged for a lot of the middle stages. I also need to make the most of the stages that I'm good at, too many of the German stages I did with a trashed car that had no real pull out of the tight corners. Great game though, the online events really mix things up and stop it from getting stale.

GigiGalliNo1
3rd January 2016, 05:14
I just bought the Xbox One! Ohhhh!! Now have to wait.... :/

Brown, Jon Brow
9th January 2016, 13:22
I've only really played about 10 hours or so on Dirt but as much as I've enjoyed it, I've also found it incredibly difficult. Every little mistake is punished. And this is coming from someone who normally plays Iracing.

I think my biggest difficulty is trying to get my wheel settings to feel right. Codemasters don't make things simple.

Maybe we should put our Steam account names on here so we can compare times.

MrJan
10th January 2016, 14:18
I've only really played about 10 hours or so on Dirt but as much as I've enjoyed it, I've also found it incredibly difficult. Every little mistake is punished. And this is coming from someone who normally plays Iracing.

I think my biggest difficulty is trying to get my wheel settings to feel right. Codemasters don't make things simple.

Maybe we should put our Steam account names on here so we can compare times.

Time was the biggest help for me, that and doing a lot of stages in the Mini. There's a huge difference in driving style between cars too, the Group B stuff is massively different from car to car with how you turn in, apply the power etc.

btw I'm SnoodyMcFlude on Steam.

Brown, Jon Brow
10th January 2016, 16:46
I changed my wheel setttings and I've seen a massive gain in performance. I think my best time at Sweet Lamb is now 6m18sec.

Jonathan M Brown 007 I think for some reason

Fast Eddie WRC
22nd January 2016, 17:25
2016 Fiesta WRC livery already out there ! :)

http://mesa.extra.hu/images/stories/cars/dirtrally/m-sport16/drt%202016-01-20%2000-37-01-35.jpg

Nazar Swan
24th January 2016, 11:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urUoMTVDVmc

MrJan
2nd February 2016, 14:00
Just seen this http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/02/02/dirt-rally-on-ps4-10-things-you-probably-didnt-know/

Photos show an Alpine and a rallycross Mini, are these console only additions, mods or something we can expect to see on PC?

Edit: Aah, just read up on the console release, seems like it will bring some new cars for the rest of us too http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-02-02-whats-different-about-dirt-rally-on-console-thankfully-not-much

Will be nice to drive something different on the rallycross tracks, I hope they add another circuit at some point too.

MrJan
15th February 2016, 23:08
Okay so it's only halfway through the day, but just put in a time on the daily event that was top 50 and top 10 for those using controllers, so I'm pretty chuffed with myself :D Okay so over the next 12 hours there will be some much quicker times, but at the minute I'm less than 4 seconds away from being the best controller player in the world ;)

Jack4688`
16th February 2016, 20:24
What stage?

MrJan
17th February 2016, 14:46
Flugzeugring Reverse in an Evo X. Managed 2:52.076 which was 9 seconds off the best time and good enough for 46th o/a. 10th best controller time, 4.050 off the best time.

Jack4688`
18th February 2016, 10:28
What controller are you using? I've got an Xbox 360 fro windows and I've not come across anything else that has better trigger for driving games.

MrJan
18th February 2016, 16:02
Same thing, I bought a USB dealy so I can use my old 360 controller. I really like the feel of the 360 controller anyway, seem to do better with that than if I use the wheel.

Nazar Swan
24th April 2016, 10:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHNbitRpktw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBQRaF2Ml-U

Allyc85
25th April 2016, 21:10
Been playing this for a couple weeks on the Xbox One, and man is it as hard, but bloomin brilliant as everyone says! Managed to get the achievement for rolling and landing on my wheels in under a mile on my first stage in the Mk2 Escort :laugh: Loving Finland, such a buzz taking off over a jump sideways at 100mph+, while Greece does my head in with it being so tight and twisty!

Brown, Jon Brow
26th April 2016, 19:14
Been playing this for a couple weeks on the Xbox One, and man is it as hard, but bloomin brilliant as everyone says! Managed to get the achievement for rolling and landing on my wheels in under a mile on my first stage in the Mk2 Escort :laugh: Loving Finland, such a buzz taking off over a jump sideways at 100mph+, while Greece does my head in with it being so tight and twisty!

Greece is a nightmare! But I managed to win it on the 2nd hardest difficulty because everyone ahead of me retired.

MrJan
27th April 2016, 13:47
It's the bumps that annoy me in Greece, I think it's the main area where the game doesn't handle that naturally.

Allyc85
27th April 2016, 18:55
Some of the crashes I've had have been very "hollywood" with the car launching miles into the air off a small bump. Also noticed that some of the stage side signs are amazingly solid, but maybe I should just not hit them!

RAS007
13th May 2016, 01:47
Really surprised that there hasn't been more posted here about this game, especially since it came out on console. This is easily the best rally game/sim in 20 years; automatically makes everything else obsolete, but in particular, Milestone should hang their heads in shame. Now we've seen how it's actually done, and yet they're still churning out shite like Sebastian Loeb Rally Evo. Well done Codemasters. It took you f*cking long enough, but you got there eventually.

spyros
13th May 2016, 09:33
Really surprised that there hasn't been more posted here about this game, especially since it came out on console. This is easily the best rally game/sim in 20 years; automatically makes everything else obsolete, but in particular, Milestone should hang their heads in shame. Now we've seen how it's actually done, and yet they're still churning out shite like Sebastian Loeb Rally Evo. Well done Codemasters. It took you f*cking long enough, but you got there eventually.

like you said its strange that isnt more posts about this amazing game (i feel more younger while playing)
Bravo Codemasters.

Allyc85
13th May 2016, 22:39
I'm too busy trying to resist sending Codemasters an abusive email about how much more unreliable Racenet is getting! Lost so many stage times recently and it's messing up a few leagues!

MrJan
14th May 2016, 07:11
Think the Racenet thing is mostly consoles, I haven't had an issue on PC

Allyc85
17th May 2016, 17:03
Got to admit it has helped me a couple times when I have had bad stages, but its bloomin annoying when you can't even sign in to have a go.

Is anyone on Xbox on here? I need some friends....on dirt to compare times with etc. My GT is AllyCummins

GigiGalliNo1
22nd May 2016, 15:38
I suck in this game

XB One console... First split I'm 17 seconds behind already if I haven't crash or hit a little bump on the roads edge....

Jack4688`
22nd May 2016, 19:24
For a while I couldn't stop crashing, usually at high speed and at the slightest hint of a bump in the road or a slight bend. I found the way to learn how to drive better was to go very slowly and upshifting early. I slowly built up confidence but still crash a bit :D but I am at least driving at full speed now. I also found most cars are very different in driving style to one another - which I like - so I am confident in the Sport Quattro, Quattro Pikes Peak, 405 T16 and less so in the Group A Impreza. Anything else I am still learning, but then why would I want to drive something that isn't either an inline five or an unequal-length-headered flat-four?

RAS007
23rd May 2016, 02:01
For a while I couldn't stop crashing, usually at high speed and at the slightest hint of a bump in the road or a slight bend. I found the way to learn how to drive better was to go very slowly and upshifting early. I slowly built up confidence but still crash a bit :D but I am at least driving at full speed now. I also found most cars are very different in driving style to one another - which I like - so I am confident in the Sport Quattro, Quattro Pikes Peak, 405 T16 and less so in the Group A Impreza. Anything else I am still learning, but then why would I want to drive something that isn't either an inline five or an unequal-length-headered flat-four?

I think it depends on a few things. Are you using a racing wheel or a controller? I am using a controller, but have played it on a racing wheel, and the wheel is much easier. Also, the cars are very different, as you mentioned. I have found both Imprezas very forgiving indeed, whereas the Escort Cosworth (which I was looking forward to the most!), is a total nightmare for handling.

AL14
23rd May 2016, 08:40
With controller sometimes is frustrating. Especially on fast sections on gravel/snow: a "right 5-6 turn" is very difficult, or you break like it is a hairpin and say bye bye to stage win, or you go flatout and pray but it can work one or two times not three...
I have not yet tried '90 / '00 and '10 cars, I'm playing with a pure career mode so I have driven only the car I bought (Lancia Fulvia, Lancia Sratos and LanciaS4). I hope the handling in the fast sections will be better with more recent cars...

P.S. Someone with PS4?

MrJan
23rd May 2016, 09:31
I found it virtually impossible to drive at any real pace in Sweden.

The 'slow and steady' route is definitely the best way to learn and also trying different cars to see what you get on with. I am best on rallycross tracks but not in the newer front wheel drive cars (although I haven't used them much). I also find it more difficult in the DS3 and the Mini has a weird habit of snap oversteer on corner exit. I'm also not a fan of the understeer in the Polo but can drive around that a bit easier.

Jack4688`
23rd May 2016, 17:25
XBox 360 controller and I did a little bit of fettling with the deadband etc in the settings to make it less nervous when trying to keep straight. I agree about Sweden, I am hopeless there! Also in any rear wheel drive car I suffer from either snap oversteer or, when on the loose, big-long spins. I need to practise a bit more in something RWD to get eh hang of it but like I said before I am more than happy driving the quattros and the 555

MrJan
23rd May 2016, 17:55
XBox 360 controller and I did a little bit of fettling with the deadband etc in the settings to make it less nervous when trying to keep straight. I agree about Sweden, I am hopeless there! Also in any rear wheel drive car I suffer from either snap oversteer or, when on the loose, big-long spins. I need to practise a bit more in something RWD to get eh hang of it but like I said before I am more than happy driving the quattros and the 555

Get a wheel, you won't regret it. I've got a 360 wheel & pedals (including the table clamp thing) that's working and not being used (got a Logitech G29 as an upgrade). Price seems to vary a bit on eBay, I'd probably be happy with £40 plus postage if you're interested.

Jack4688`
23rd May 2016, 18:13
Not worth it until I get a PS4 to properly play the game - I'm using a pretty standard laptop at the moment, so I have to compromise the graphics to enable it to actually play. RX is massively jittery when you're running with other cars on track!

MrJan
23rd May 2016, 19:36
Yeah I had the same problem when I got the game, even when everything was set to low.

GigiGalliNo1
24th May 2016, 02:18
Impreza, both models (not Grp N) first Focus and Evo X and maybe another Group A car are great and easy to drive....

Jack4688`
24th May 2016, 12:43
Haha that's funny cos I've found the Focus and Impreza from the 2000s WRC section, in fact anything from that group, difficult to handle. Polo is alright but the Fiesta is a little more difficult, very twitchy.

I love that they've made a game that gives so many different variations in feel for the vehicles AND a difference in personal opinion - that may all be by accident but still it makes for a far more fascinating game than the dross blackbean games have been producing.

Allyc85
24th May 2016, 21:20
Weird I find the Fiesta lazy and slow to change direction compared to the Polo, which I find is spot on. The Mini WRC seems to understeer loads, and the engine is very laggy!

AL14
25th May 2016, 09:51
I have always problem with downshifting with the Fiesta, except for last two stages.

Fast Eddie WRC
12th January 2017, 16:31
First 2017 WRC liveries for Fiesta...

http://www.racedepartment.com/attachments/20161231140933_1-jpg.165591/

http://www.racedepartment.com/attachments/20161231140553_1-jpg.165586/

Best we can do until someone makes the new cars.

Fast Eddie WRC
26th January 2017, 14:07
The real DiRT 4 is coming... :)

http://www.redbull.com/en/games/stories/1331841547561/dirt-4-interview-red-bull-games

Sub_Skoda
26th January 2017, 14:55
The real DiRT 4 is coming... :)

http://www.redbull.com/en/games/stories/1331841547561/dirt-4-interview-red-bull-games

Can't wait! I hope it will be more fun than DiRT Rally!

pino
26th January 2017, 15:10
Amazing news, thanks for posting!

EightGear
26th January 2017, 15:41
Interesting, lets hope they indeed do further refine the driving physics as Dirt Rally is an excellent start.

Very curious to see the Your Stage implementation, hopefully this will not result in repeated generic parts just added together, for lack of a better explanation. Will also be interesting to see how they are going to implement pace notes into them.

pettersolberg29
26th January 2017, 19:11
Was at the Dirt 4 launch event today and can confirm the game is a cracker - Dirt Rally is almost a demo in comparison to Dirt 4. Handling is refined even more, graphics still solid, and the new stages in Australia are excellent. The 'Your Stage' stuff seems to work seamlessly, co-driver adapts perfectly and after a good couple of hours playing random stages in the same country I didn't recognise the same corner and it certainly helped keep things fresh. Overall, think it's going to be a real game-changer and a revolution in the rally game world.

pino
26th January 2017, 19:19
Thanks for the review petter. Is Australia the only country added ?

pettersolberg29
26th January 2017, 19:27
Thanks for the review petter. Is Australia the only country added ?

Nope, only Sweden and GB remain from Dirt Rally. Australia, Spain and Michigan added. Loheac and Montalegre also added in the World RX section.

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
26th January 2017, 19:37
How about the current WRCars..?

Sent from my A12 using Tapatalk

pino
26th January 2017, 19:39
Nope, only Sweden and GB remain from Dirt Rally. Australia, Spain and Michigan added. Loheac and Montalegre also added in the World RX section.

What ? No Finland, Greece or Monte ??? :eek:

Allyc85
26th January 2017, 20:08
It's sounding like another amazing game, but really disappointed to lose Finland! Nothing like launching a car sideways over a jump at 100mph!

pettersolberg29
26th January 2017, 20:36
Afraid there's no Finland, Monte or Greece! Who knows what DLC will bring though...

No 2016/17 WRC cars, but there is an R5 category and a lot more older cars inc. the Evo 6.

pino
26th January 2017, 20:45
Can't believe, Codemasters includes Michigan and leaves Finland and Monte out...

EightGear
26th January 2017, 21:28
Sounds promising!

It would be a shame to lose the stages/locations from Dirt Rally though. I guess the stages from Sweden and Wales wont be the exact same?

EightGear
27th January 2017, 07:00
15 minutes of pre-alpha footage:
https://youtu.be/NvWXaJYQkiM

Terrible driving as usual in these kinds of videos, but this is looking very nice! Small details like having to stop at the time control after the stage is very nice as well.

Fast Eddie WRC
27th January 2017, 15:55
Afraid there's no Finland, Monte or Greece! Who knows what DLC will bring though...

No 2016/17 WRC cars, but there is an R5 category and a lot more older cars inc. the Evo 6.

Not at all happy to hear this. Finland & Monte are essential rallies.

No chance of the 2017 car's either I suppose as only the WRC7 game will have these.

Fast Eddie WRC
27th January 2017, 15:58
More from DiRTgame on 4
https://dirtgame.com/blog/6061

MrJan
29th January 2017, 20:11
Not at all happy to hear this. Finland & Monte are essential rallies.

No chance of the 2017 car's either I suppose as only the WRC7 game will have these.

If Michigan is anything like it was in the earlier Dirt games then it'll be fairly similar to a Finish style stage.

Fast Eddie WRC
2nd February 2017, 23:27
Official launch event with Solberg & Meeke interviews:

https://youtu.be/cREEx-6zX_s

Sub_Skoda
8th February 2017, 19:04
Interview of Paul Coleman about DiRT4 : http://www.lemagsportauto.com/dirt-4-interview-exclusive-de-paul-coleman/21050/

Eli
12th February 2017, 08:59
so no WRC Cars from the past 10 years..and more importantly no Finland or Greece or Monte....and they add Australia & forget about NZ, add Michigan??

MrJan
13th February 2017, 19:10
so no WRC Cars from the past 10 years..and more importantly no Finland or Greece or Monte....and they add Australia & forget about NZ, add Michigan??

Monte has been in the last few games, so I understand the move away from that. If Michigan stages are anything like Dirt 3 then they'll have much in common with Finland and NZ (i.e fast and flowing).

Okay so no WRC cars, but with the kind of car list that they've already announced I can't say that I mind that. I have far more fun trying to get a quick time in something that's tough to drive.

GigiGalliNo1
14th February 2017, 05:44
I'd love some WRCars from the 90's. Evo VI, great. But give us a WRC05. Seat Cordoba and the Octavia. Some new R5's too. Trying to think what other WRCars to involve.

Monte was the best I have to say. Truly you could feel driving on ice, loose grip and then you have grip on the dry stuff. Michigan to get the US players involved?

Australia, never really liked it. No true basis of stages to be honest. Bring NZ into the game, get the stages set off real roads, Whaanga Coast would be ideal. Greece was a bit rough, rocks on the edge, very edge of the roads to hook the cars which was annoying! Perhaps a Safari round... or even... hrmmmm... Ireland! West tarmac, similar to what Colin McRae rally was with Japan!

Will this new game be a hardcore Rally enthusiast version or is this a new game to introduce fans into the sport and not be so serious. I'm not sure if a Simulation is the right word. Is it or not?

I wonder if this Your Stage will be like what V-Rally had. Create your own stage. That was mega!

GigiGalliNo1
14th February 2017, 05:48
Fitzroy!? It's a suburb in Melbourne! My point exactly, pointless of having Rally Australia. I know it's a game but still, place it back in Perth. Have a similar stage to Bunnings.

GigiGalliNo1
14th February 2017, 06:04
Aha! It's an Arcade game... and no WRCcars because the FIA Police came along and said NO. :/

A FONDO
14th February 2017, 07:57
Dirt Rally was the biggest gift to us hardcore rally fans and there won't be anything close to it in the following years. That Codemasters manager just politely reveals that they miss a lot of audience and want it back, i.e. they will make some NFS crap for 13 year old american hamburger kids.

spyros
14th February 2017, 12:30
its a shame they throw away all the good job they have done with dirt rally,no wrcs no monte,greece and even finland, what rally game is that?

MrJan
14th February 2017, 13:19
Aha! It's an Arcade game... and no WRCcars because the FIA Police came along and said NO. :/

No, it's both. They are keeping/improving the handling model from Dirt Rally but also adding another simpler model. Times for each handling type will be completely separate.


Dirt Rally was the biggest gift to us hardcore rally fans and there won't be anything close to it in the following years. That Codemasters manager just politely reveals that they miss a lot of audience and want it back, i.e. they will make some NFS crap for 13 year old american hamburger kids.

As above, they're doing both. It doesn't make commerical sense to keep doing games like DR...however they've proven to the bosses that there's an audience for it and hopefully will deliver a game that attracts the hamburger kids and the rest of us that love Dirt Rally.


its a shame they throw away all the good job they have done with dirt rally,no wrcs no monte,greece and even finland, what rally game is that?

They didn't 'throw away' anything, they've built on it. The WRCs, it's more a case of the rights holders wanting to give the official game a boost. You can't blame Codemasters for that. As for the rallies, wait and see what they actually deliver. Just because the Aussie stages are called 'Fitzroy' doesn't mean that they won't resemble something like Bunnings. I don't see why people are bother by what 'country' the rallies are supposedly in without actually driving the stages. As long as they are good to drive then they could name them Outer Mongolia for all I care.

pino
14th February 2017, 14:15
I love DiRT Rally and it's probably the best Rally game made by Codies, along with Colin McRae2. I am playing it every day, because nothing can beat, driving a stage on Montecarlo or Finland and even Greece, with one of the many great car available from the Garage. All that will disappear with arrival of DiRT 4, although they will give us this cool feature called Your Stage. Australia and Spain are boring events if you ask me, so I think it's a step back for all Rally fans gamer.

My two cents :p

hannes36
14th February 2017, 14:42
its a shame they throw away all the good job they have done with dirt rally,no wrcs no monte,greece and even finland, what rally game is that?
The stages aren't copy's of real-life anymore due to some restrictions. They now have stage generator called Your Stage that gives us almost unlimited amount of stages. You no-longer are able to memorize stages and you'll relay more on co-driver than your memory!
WRC cars are out thanks to FIA, but they have updated physics and car handling. Kris Meek helped them to modify R5 class and Solberg WRX cars. That said, i'll take realistic and lower class cars over SLRE and WRC series crap.

Oh, and Nicky Grist is back ;)

MrJan
14th February 2017, 18:40
I love DiRT Rally and it's probably the best Rally game made by Codies, along with Colin McRae2. I am playing it every day, because nothing can beat, driving a stage on Montecarlo or Finland and even Greece, with one of the many great car available from the Garage. All that will disappear with arrival of DiRT 4, although they will give us this cool feature called Your Stage. Australia and Spain are boring events if you ask me, so I think it's a step back for all Rally fans gamer.

My two cents :p

POssibly, we'll see. Personally I don't think that Aus will be any more boring than Greece and Spain will be a quick tarmac rally with less 90 right and hairpins than Germany. As I've said above I expect Michigan to be a similar style event to Finland, so the only real loss from my point of view is Monte. That's more than made up for by the introduction of additional RX classes and tracks, plus the Your Stage thing. Yes it's a move away from the core rallying nature of DR, but many of the key features that made the game great will remain.

From what I understand through those that have played it (including a certain forum member that's got a stupid number of hours on Dirt Rally) it's a pretty impressive game.

pino
14th February 2017, 19:06
For what I've seen, Australia will have wide and faster stages, totally different from the nasty and narrow stages we have now in Greece, which btw, is my favorite event along with Montecarlo in DiRT Rally. Probably Michigan will be as good as Finland but Spain is a totally let down. Hopefully they will prove me wrong!

Allyc85
14th February 2017, 20:46
If the Spanish stages are anything like the twisty, cambered roads I drove on holiday last year then they will be far better than Germany!

EightGear
14th February 2017, 21:01
I love the Greek stages, they are by far my favourite in Dirt Rally. From the preview footage I've seen so far it looks like Australia will somewhat fill that gap. Dry, dusty gravel but a little less twitchy and tricky than Greece. We'll see.

Finland I don't really like, the jumps are strange and the fast sections make the shortcomings of the physics engine stand out more. If Michigan will be fast but less jumpy, that would be great.

Spain I fully expect to be better than Germany. At least the Spanish stages are actual roads and not concrete military roads with 80% 90 degree corners.

BigWorm
15th February 2017, 10:13
Will Spain be the only tarmac rally on Dirt 4?

EightGear
15th February 2017, 10:33
I believe so, yes.

BigWorm
15th February 2017, 10:40
So Dirt 4 is going to be repetetive also. Great.

Jasper
15th February 2017, 11:03
Will Spain be the only tarmac rally on Dirt 4?

Michigan should have some (short) tarmac sections (if it's like Michigan in the older Dirt game).

Francis44
15th February 2017, 13:17
Their biggest triumph with this game is the computer generated stages wich they say will amount to an infinite quantity of quality stages, so repeated stages should not be a problem. However no matter what they say computer generated stages will never be equally as exciting as a stage carefully designed by a 20 plus team of developers, that is my biggest fear with the game, endless kilometres of boring computer generated roads.

BigWorm
15th February 2017, 13:30
Only problem I have with Dirt Rally is that there are far too few stages. Each rally have essentially two unique stages, the rest are just those two cut in half and/or in reverse. Makes the game feel reeeeally repetitive. Feels like game developers are lazy with stage design nowadays.

MrJan
15th February 2017, 22:26
Feels like game developers are lazy with stage design nowadays.

Yeah, so lazy that they've introduced a feature which means that you can make a virtually endless variety of stages. I'm sure many of us will get really bored when we're competing on unique stages, I know that I find there's a lack of variety in the option to compete of 1000s of different routes.







btw I was being sarcastic.

GigiGalliNo1
16th February 2017, 02:58
So lazy that you don't want to pay any more.

spyros
16th February 2017, 08:24
when do we have more news about the game?

BigWorm
16th February 2017, 09:33
Yeah, so lazy that they've introduced a feature which means that you can make a virtually endless variety of stages. I'm sure many of us will get really bored when we're competing on unique stages, I know that I find there's a lack of variety in the option to compete of 1000s of different routes.







btw I was being sarcastic.

They make that feature so they let the gamers create stages instead of themselves ;)

Anyway, it's good they are introducing something new to the table. As of yet, you can't deny that they take the easy way with stages, the stages are far too identical. To make a comparision with the past, look at Rally Championship 2000. That game hade a lot of unique stages, some stages being 30+ km. If it could be done in the past, why couldn't it be now?

Not to forget all the stages players create for Richard Burns Rally, on their free time...

MrJan
16th February 2017, 13:27
So lazy that you don't want to pay any more.

I'm totally happy to pay, because I've read about the game and realise that it's a big step forward from a game that I already think is amazing.


They make that feature so they let the gamers create stages instead of themselves ;)

Anyway, it's good they are introducing something new to the table. As of yet, you can't deny that they take the easy way with stages, the stages are far too identical. To make a comparision with the past, look at Rally Championship 2000. That game hade a lot of unique stages, some stages being 30+ km. If it could be done in the past, why couldn't it be now?

Not to forget all the stages players create for Richard Burns Rally, on their free time...

I don't deny the number of stages, but that doesn't equate with being lazy. If you think that anything about Dirt Rally is lazy then you're impossible to please. It's true that there aren't a huge number of stages, but the ones that it has are well thought out and detailed. Why could Rally Championship have lots more stages? Because the detail isn't anywhere near that of Dirt...the same goes for RBR. Sure Codemasters could have put more stages in it, but that would likely have been at the cost of time which was put into the handling model and graphics. These guys don't have the endless amount of time to work on a game that gamers do, they've got deadlines and budgets to work to.

And if you think it's lazy to develop something like Your Stage then you should probably offer your services to Codemasters, as you're clearly so amazing.

BigWorm
16th February 2017, 14:19
I don't deny the number of stages, but that doesn't equate with being lazy. If you think that anything about Dirt Rally is lazy then you're impossible to please. It's true that there aren't a huge number of stages, but the ones that it has are well thought out and detailed. Why could Rally Championship have lots more stages? Because the detail isn't anywhere near that of Dirt...the same goes for RBR. Sure Codemasters could have put more stages in it, but that would likely have been at the cost of time which was put into the handling model and graphics. These guys don't have the endless amount of time to work on a game that gamers do, they've got deadlines and budgets to work to.

And if you think it's lazy to develop something like Your Stage then you should probably offer your services to Codemasters, as you're clearly so amazing.

Yeah, they're not as detailed because details are something that has evolved with time. The games I mentioned are well outdated in terms of design and capability, but decreasing the number of stages feels like a step back or at least stalling the potential. Rally Championship sure looks worse than Dirt Rally now, but for the time it was quite extrodinary in terms of design.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy Dirt Rally. I think the car handling is bang on for a rally game, challenging but fun at the same time. The sound, graphics and multiplayer are all great too. All very well done, I will gladly praise those features all day. With saying they're lazy I'm exaggerating, but cutting one bigger stage into two shorter is definitely taking a shortcut to just add quantity. It's not just Codemasters who does this, the WRC developers did so too in their games. With fans reporting the lack of variety exists in the last few years, don't you expect developers to take note? After all, they are paid professionals.

Seems like you falled for my sarcastic initial sentence to your previous sarcastic post. Now, saying this non-sarcastically, Your Stage sounds very promising, it's totally right from them to introduce, but since it's not released yet I won't say more than that.

GigiGalliNo1
16th February 2017, 14:38
No what I meant was that... wait I forgot

MrJan
16th February 2017, 18:55
Seems like you falled for my sarcastic initial sentence to your previous sarcastic post. Now, saying this non-sarcastically, Your Stage sounds very promising, it's totally right from them to introduce, but since it's not released yet I won't say more than that.

No, I got it. I just think that it comes from a real place, hence why you say :


With fans reporting the lack of variety exists in the last few years, don't you expect developers to take note? After all, they are paid professionals.

Developers have taken note, that's exactly what Dirt 4 is. Dirt Rally was only ever a prototype, and I felt that was pretty clear from the start. Certainly the pricing structure on PC suggested as much by never being 'full price' as such.

BigWorm
16th February 2017, 19:26
Developers have taken note, that's exactly what Dirt 4 is. Dirt Rally was only ever a prototype, and I felt that was pretty clear from the start. Certainly the pricing structure on PC suggested as much by never being 'full price' as such.

And that's good. Should it work out nicely it will definitely build on Dirt Rally and take it further. Not saying Dirt 4 is bound to flop, but we have to wait and see.

Fast Eddie WRC
19th February 2017, 11:52
DMack 2017 livery the best so far:

http://www.racedepartment.com/attachments/pic-jpg.173138/

BigWorm
19th February 2017, 19:02
DMack 2017 livery the best so far:

http://www.racedepartment.com/attachments/pic-jpg.173138/

Looks good on the old Fiesta, any front view?

Fast Eddie WRC
22nd February 2017, 20:44
Looks good on the old Fiesta, any front view?

Only this: http://www.racedepartment.com/data/resource_icons/13/13898.jpg?1487092767

The side/rear are the best view though as the Fiesta looks oldest from the front which is still very 2010.

Fast Eddie WRC
22nd February 2017, 20:50
Better Ogier 2017

http://i.imgur.com/2lPzDeC.png

spyros
23rd March 2017, 05:57
any news on this?

SubaruNorway
30th March 2017, 16:35
Got a PS4 world record on Järvenkylä in Finland if anyone wants a go at it :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OHpaeJJggw&lc=z13dvr3i5onlexmh304cejfawxfcezyb1wg0k

KevinR
19th April 2017, 13:53
Subaru nice! I will try to go at it but... it will be quite hard actually! Your time was just so great. Congrats

MrJan
28th April 2017, 13:31
Few more videos appearing. Looks like Ascona and Mitsubishi Mirage R5 are added to the list of confirmed cars.

Fast Eddie WRC
14th May 2017, 15:14
Nice piece on DiRT4:

http://www.redbull.com/en/games/stories/1331856725754/dirt-4-vs-dirt-rally-exclusive-dirt-4-screenshots-red-bull

BigWorm
14th May 2017, 20:40
Hyundai i20 R5 is in the game, but only as a DLC for those who pre-order.

MrJan
15th May 2017, 18:24
£50 :eek: Am sure this game will be epic, so will still buy it, but seems a bit steep. I guess it's fair though, I've got some serious playing time out of Dirt Rally and only paid about £25 for that.

pino
15th May 2017, 18:28
I've already preordered ! :D

MrJan
15th May 2017, 19:10
I've got some serious playing time out of Dirt Rally and only paid about £25 for that.

Just had a look, 226 hours according to Steam. A long way from being the most but still pretty good value.

Adler
15th May 2017, 20:00
Preordered too, really curious how well "your stage" works, specially regarding pace notes, imo in dirt rally it is not possible to go flat out without very good stage knowledge. I can't imagine it can be better with this stage creator....we will see...

Fast Eddie WRC
17th May 2017, 12:06
WRC7 coming in the Autumn featuring new 2017 WRCars...

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/may-2017/wrc-7/page/4529--12-12-.html

MrJan
17th May 2017, 12:44
Saw that yesterday, thought the graphics looked quite good until I realised that they'd spliced in real footage. Really sneaky, especially as the WRC logo in the bottom left appears on both replays and the proper video.

How many people will actually buy it though? Dirt 4 sounds like it's shaping up to be a fairly complete game, other than possibly lacking an extra environment or two.

BigWorm
17th May 2017, 15:49
The i20 looks good in there. I thought WRC 6 wasn't fun because of the heavy car handling though, stopped playing that game pretty early. I'm using my money for Dirt 4.

Fast Eddie WRC
17th May 2017, 16:49
Saw that yesterday, thought the graphics looked quite good until I realised that they'd spliced in real footage. Really sneaky, especially as the WRC logo in the bottom left appears on both replays and the proper video.



I noticed that too... I was just thinking wow this looks amazing, then realised it was cut with real action !

But TBH I am tiring of the same old model cars in DiRT and really want to have the 2017 versions, even if the game isnt the ultimate realism. I'm only a casual player so I'll probably give WRC7 a go.

MrJan
17th May 2017, 17:31
Yeah, I'd rather have a game that works properly. Not much point in having the current cars if they don't sound or drive right IMO. Plus I love the variety of Dirt, you can use underpowered FWD, overpowered FWD, 4WD that handles really well or 4WD that can be really sketchy etc. etc. Plus it carries the license of World RX which I probably enjoy, and suits my playing style, more than official WRC. Definitely a shame that they won't have anything from the WRC in the last 20 years, but the rest of the game more than makes up for that IMO.

Fast Eddie WRC
17th May 2017, 21:07
I've heard a few people saying WRC6 was quite decent, so hopefully WRC7 will be even better. Plus I like to drive with the camera view behind the car and so having 2017 cars will be a refreshing change.

RAS007
19th May 2017, 01:00
I've heard a few people saying WRC6 was quite decent, so hopefully WRC7 will be even better. Plus I like to drive with the camera view behind the car and so having 2017 cars will be a refreshing change.

Not sure where you may have heard that, but its wrong. WRC6 is a truly appalling game. Against my better judgement, I bought it, played for 20 minutes and switched off. The co-driver calls are just a farce, and the game itself, considering we are now almost 20 years beyond CMR, is a total disgrace.

Francis44
23rd May 2017, 09:29
Pre-ordered this today, let's see what Codemasters delivers. Very rarely do I pre-order games, I like to read what reviews and other players have to say before splashing the cash, but I think Codemasters as earned the pre-order with their work those last couple of years.

My only fear is that the "your stage" mechanic, even if it doesn't recreate any completely equally, will after a while create boring and familiar stages even if not with the same exact corners.

And hopefully they haven't "dumbed down" the physics too much from Dirt Rally.

MrJan
23rd May 2017, 13:33
Looks like the Codies team are going to be at Lydden this weekend so hopefully I might find some time to get a bit of hands on.

https://twitter.com/dirtgame/status/866686480999227394

Sub_Skoda
23rd May 2017, 15:23
New trailer dedicated to RX : http://lemagjeuxhightech.com/dirt-4-rallycross-video-trailer/11614/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATLL9f5grNk

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
23rd May 2017, 15:28
Still no STARD Fiesta & Albatec 208..

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Sub_Skoda
23rd May 2017, 16:20
Still no STARD Fiesta & Albatec 208..

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Only 2016 liveries in DiRT4... :rolleyes:

MrJan
23rd May 2017, 17:03
Yeah game is based on 2016 season. Not too much of a hardship though as at least Codies are pretty free in allowing the community to import liveries etc. Shouldn't be too long before someone has sorted out full 2017 livery. Doesn't really bother me too much, I mostly drive with headcam so only see the outside of the car during the replay.

Fast Eddie WRC
1st June 2017, 16:08
Released in June and going big on the RX angle in their advertising, you'd think they could've got the 2017 liveries sorted by launch.

BigWorm
6th June 2017, 16:23
Getting some good scores across the reviewers.

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
6th June 2017, 20:35
No Fabia & DS3 R5, I afraid..

Does it moddable..? So we're able to create Mirage facelift version..

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MrJan
7th June 2017, 13:40
Released in June and going big on the RX angle in their advertising, you'd think they could've got the 2017 liveries sorted by launch.

Possibly due to licensing? Personally I'm not massively bothered by it, not many liveries have changed drastically and if it means the art department spent more time on everything else then it's OK by me.


No Fabia & DS3 R5, I afraid..

Does it moddable..? So we're able to create Mirage facelift version..

I'd be surprised if it isn't moddable on PC, Codies have traditionally been quite open and they've happily shared some modded stuff from Dirt Rally.

BigWorm
7th June 2017, 13:53
Creating new car models for Codemasters games in the last years has been pretty unheard of, if not extinct. I really don't think that will happen again. Rockstar Games tried to prevent modders to create real car models for GTA 5, modders eventually cracked it but it took a good while. Shows that game developers probably don't want models in their games that are not licensed for it.

But for car liveries and skins, Codemasters even encourage the players to make. Should take a very short while until the first new liveries pops up.

RAS007
8th June 2017, 01:21
Anybody got this yet? I'm going down to the store tomorrow to trade in WRC 6 (which I played for a grand total of about 15 minutes) for Dirt 4. Reviews this side of the pond have all been very positive.

BigWorm
8th June 2017, 12:53
Will be released tomorrow I think

pino
8th June 2017, 13:09
10 hours left...PSN says :D

pino
8th June 2017, 13:10
For those who have preordered, I guess :p

spyros
8th June 2017, 15:24
from codies forums,that is what im afraid of......

It's definitely not as SIM as DR, much more forgiving all round imo.
eg. I just did todays daily challenge - a rallycross at Hells in the supercars. I had yet to race a supercar in Dirt4, I've just used the 1600s & superlites.
I knew the track very well from DR. In Dirt4 it is extremely forgiving. Hitting curbs & outside gravel didn't affect me at all :( The same mistakes made in DR would have given me a ton of trouble to combat through and retrieve.) The same can be said for (going wide on) rally stages.
The supercars also lack the violent punchiness & feedback of DR. (Although I'm still experimenting with the vibration & feedback settings.)

It's very dumbed down on SIM compared to DR which is a shame. I haven't attempted 'Gamer' settings, but with all the assists available in SIM (I race with everything off), I don't understand why this setting isn't as hardcore as DR. Doing full Michigan stages, in career, from start to finish in top gear isn't the most challenging.
I just keep telling myself it's Dirt4, not Dirt Rally 2.
Anyway on a positive note, all the team management additions are great, so no more stock piling cash with nothing to spend it on :)

PS. got the (day 1?) update. No changes to driving that I can feel.

MrJan
8th June 2017, 15:57
@spyros, interesting, not in line with anything that I've heard from anyone else or my own (albeit brief and inebriated) experience during World RX weekend at Lydden

pino
8th June 2017, 16:02
In a few hours, I will get my digital version and will find out. Can't wait...

BigWorm
8th June 2017, 18:04
Strange, I got the feeling Codemasters would use the same rally physics from Dirt Rally. Obviously not then and that's a shame. I never touch rallycross, but heard it was good enough in Dirt Rally so it feels strange they have changed it.

pino
8th June 2017, 19:10
Available now on PSN for downloading !!! :D

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
8th June 2017, 19:22
At least Codies has fixing the Impreza 2001's dashboard..

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MrJan
8th June 2017, 19:23
Strange, I got the feeling Codemasters would use the same rally physics from Dirt Rally. Obviously not then and that's a shame. I never touch rallycross, but heard it was good enough in Dirt Rally so it feels strange they have changed it.

They've long maintained that RX was the weakest part of Dirt Rally, and in terms of handling they're probably right (although I loved the PvP) as it was closer to arcade than the rally element was. They've said ever since D4 was mentioned that the physics engine was a development of the one used in Dirt Rally and that they'd worked hard with drivers and tyre manufacturers to improve reality of RX and tarmac.

EightGear
8th June 2017, 20:30
Basically everyone is saying the physics are an improvement over Dirt Rally except for that guy quoted in here, so I wouldn't worry too much.

pino
9th June 2017, 07:18
So far so good !!! Everything has improved, starting from the physics, sound, and graphics. I've started my career with the Pro difficult mode, and it's ok but will probably go a step up, as it looks a bit easy. As for stages, are beautiful made, even though, I still miss Finland, Greece and Monte. Great job by Codemasters anyway!!!

Francis44
9th June 2017, 10:10
I've spent a couple of hours on the game already yesterday, I do feel the game is much more forgiving than Dirt Rally.
A lot of that has to do with stage design, my biggest fear with the game looks to be realized, the stage design is so poor compared to Dirt Rally, as soon as you mess with the complexity slider on the stage creator the only thing that does is generate an anormal number of open hairpins.

Will report back after a couple more hours with the game.

pino
9th June 2017, 10:28
I believe that, our judgement are effected by our skills and expectations. Being a normal player and not a Pro, I find this game excellent in everything. As said before, I am playing the SIM mode at Pro level, and I am quite satisfied. Just need to go a step up on the level. I guess that our friend Francis is a much better player than me then :D

Francis44
9th June 2017, 10:33
I believe that, our judgement are effected by our skills and expectations. Being a normal player and not a Pro, I find this game excellent in everything. As said before, I am playing the SIM mode at Pro level, and I am quite satisfied. Just need to go a step up on the level. I guess that our friend Francis is a much better player than me then :D

Not at all :D, that was just my feeling after stepping right out of Dirt Rally to Dirt 4. I am yet to try the more powerfull machines (I've only driven the Fiesta R2 and Impreza STI), so it might get more demanding after a while.

MrJan
9th June 2017, 13:14
I think a lot of people have forgotten that the cars in DR were much easier to drive before they got upgraded, so D4 could be very similar. For example yesterday's DR 'Owners Club' daily stage was in the Delta S4 which I've not really used so was standard. Power actually seemed quite limited and slow. Contrast that with using the S4 in a custom event and it's a beast.

I'm not fussed either way, if it's slightly easier then it just means I won't need as many restarts :D :laugh:

MrJan
9th June 2017, 20:38
Handling definitely different and taking some getting used to. Love some of the Spanish stages, really nice flow to them. Thankfully don't seem to be getting as ruined by 'rogue' bumps that send the car airborne either.

Adler
9th June 2017, 21:18
After playing first 3 hours i am disappointet, the stages looks partly good, i like for example the stages in spain and australia, even the generated ones looks good, but the car behaviour just feels strange related to dirt rallye, its almost impossible to get an r5 car to oversteer, i really doublechecked if i was in gamers mode, but unfortunately i was not. ...i will spend some more hours on it, maybe the feeling will improve with some changes in settings and time. ...

RAS007
9th June 2017, 22:02
Can anyone tell me how to change the co-driver voice from Jen Horsey to Nicky Grist on PS4? I can't seem to find it. Thanks!

MrJan
9th June 2017, 22:24
Can anyone tell me how to change the co-driver voice from Jen Horsey to Nicky Grist on PS4? I can't seem to find it. Thanks!

You can do it in your team setup.

Really enjoying the Welsh stages, some great elevation changes.

spyros
10th June 2017, 09:02
I am so disappointed with the game i am ready to ask for refund.100% physics is miles off.
Not to mention the tracks are not as constricted as DR for ease of use. Like it or not this is a mass market game. DR sold well, but many dropped it quickly due to it's steep curve. D4 allows a much wider audience.

BigWorm
11th June 2017, 20:47
Love some of the Spanish stages, really nice flow to them. Thankfully don't seem to be getting as ruined by 'rogue' bumps that send the car airborne either.

Music to my ears. Tarmac is my favourite so I'm eager to try it out. I'm away from my computer for the summer so I can only just wait to try it out.

Adler
12th June 2017, 07:49
After spending some more hours on it, i highly not recommend to buy dirt4, specially for them who liked dirt Rally, the car behaviour is just a mess on gravel, the cars fly through the bends like on rails, no chance to get them oversteer except pulling the handbrake, sometimes the car gets unstable on braking though, and then you have no chance to catch the car, no matter what you do...

regarding stages: at the beginning they looked not bad, but soon i realized that in one stage some exact same sections appears two or even three times, even the normal career stages are not designed, they are all generated...

It´s for sure the last time I preorder a game just because the developers promise superb physiks and great stages...I really can´t imagine WRC7 can be worse than that...

[RMC]Pip
12th June 2017, 13:09
Fascinating to read so many conflicting opinions about the game. I'm on the simulation handling mode.

Haven't sampled too many cars, the Lancer Evo X was fun to drive on Michigan, on tarmac I find it a bit odd. Although I can't recall any rally game that nailed down the feeling for me (I have never driven a rally car).

I have to agree with Adler on the stages, at first the routes are nice (although I find the space of the call outs very inconsistent, especially on Wales), but after some stages you realize that everything has a pattern. The exact same combination of corners appear in Spain, the forest to fields transition has maximum 4 or so available combination in Wales, etc. Very repetitive, fortunately, the time of day effects can mix up things a bit, but altogether a huge let-down. I just played a bit of DiRT Rally a week ago, and the variety of the Greek stages are superb in contrast to DiRT4.

I can't recommend the game at full price if you have DiRT Rally. The 5 locations for rally racing is not so many, and the random stage generator can't do wonders. The graphics are okay, but not a step-up from previous games from Codemasters. I hope it's the swan song of the current EVO engine and it gets a proper update, maybe a complete rewrite with DX12.

Why there's no rally game with proper tarmac stages - Spain is very smooth IMHO. It would be great to drive Ypres, Barum, etc.

MrJan
12th June 2017, 13:16
no chance to get them oversteer except pulling the handbrake

You must have a different driving style to me, I had a go in the Ascona and could barely get it straight. Thought the Quattro E2 was great too.

Probably agree that the front is easier to guide but I think people have been a bit reactionary to the handling switch. It handles differently for sure, but I'm not sure I agree that it's less real. Rallycross is a definite improvement too, the AI is more realistic and run much closer together rather than being spread out.

Adler
13th June 2017, 08:17
[QUOTE=MrJan;1142090]You must have a different driving style to me, I had a go in the Ascona and could barely get it straight. Thought the Quattro E2 was great too.
QUOTE]

I didn´t try any RWD or historic car so far to be honest, and rallycross is just a nice addition to me, maybe I´ll try it later.

What I realized yesterday is that the default settings are a joke and you can make a big improvement in car behaviour by changing them. I drove a 208T16 in wales and after some changings the car felt a lot better for me, not really good or realistic, but better, and finally it was some fun to drive...I tried the same with the Fiesta R5 and it worked the same way (the Fiesta is although slightly better with default settings already)...

What still remains is the poor force Feedback (G29)and the very often repeating stage sections, probably I´ll jump back to dirt Rally soon...

Alexander83
13th June 2017, 08:42
I have to say that I am very disappointed with the Simulation-Mode. It's way easier than Dirt Rally, feels more like a train simulator. I heard a lot of complains around, lets hope the devs will listen and try to fix the game.

MrJan
13th June 2017, 13:37
I didn´t try any RWD or historic car so far to be honest, and rallycross is just a nice addition to me, maybe I´ll try it later.

I'm the other way, I spend most of my time on RX. I still don't mind the handling, it's more predictable which to my mind is more real, certainly on tarmac. Although that partly could be because I'm driving more carefully as I can't learn any of the parts of the stage.

Agree that there seem to be familiar sections on stages but I don't mind that too much, especially as I think the pacenotes are good. Not sure I like the hairpins though, too many of them are really just a long 2.

Allyc85
14th June 2017, 20:47
First thoughts..

Cars react much better to bumps etc, no bizarre Hollywood reaction to going sightly wide.
Playing with the controller on the Xbox and it's much easier to place the car at high speed than on Dirt Rally.
Only done a few stages using Your Stage and there are definitely some repeated sections.
Pace note delivery timing seems very random, some corners you can't make without prior practise.
Overall though I'm enjoying it so far.

MrJan
15th June 2017, 09:36
Pace note delivery timing seems very random, some corners you can't make without prior practise.

I've got notes set quite early and haven't had many where I overshoot the corner, my problem is that some notes in a twisty section come really early and I forget them!

Vincemon1285
15th June 2017, 13:54
My first thoughts,


I'm both happy and disappointed at Dirt 4.
Driving 2wd cars feels good, 4wd ok, but as everyone writes feels a bit like they are going as a train. Best there are the R5 cars.

But driving the Rwd cars feels unrealistic, not the same lovely feeling as the Dirt rally.

I also think it's very difficult to control the car when braking.

The stretches are ok, a bit boring to drive the same sections over and over again.

Spain works well just like Wales and Australia, but Sweden I think it's a disaster.

Michigan is quite boring.

I will soon get back to Dirt Rally.

RAS007
16th June 2017, 04:30
I really like the game so far. Have been playing on gamer mode, since I found the curve just a bit too steep on Simulation, somewhat like Dirt Rally. Some general comments: (I'm playing on PS4, with a controller)

-Having Nicky Grist back is terrific
- Agree with some earlier comments about handling, mainly that it's very difficult to get the car to oversteer w/out using the handbrake, although this seems to depend on the car. For example, Escort Cosworth and Fiesta R5 will not oversteer unless really forced, whereas 2001 Focus WRC oversteers nicely in the corners just using foot brake.
- Small details are what really makes this a great game for me: Nicky's comments at the start/end of the stage, the fact that you have to get the car to the marshall rather than just flying over the finish, the weather changes, the fact that the intercom will sometimes go out, or lights will flicker out on a night stage, or you'll come across an accident on the stage etc etc......all these little details make it much more enjoyable.

Allyc85
16th June 2017, 18:46
Am I being blind or can you not change brake bias? I can see pressure but that's it.

Also can you not change the button layout on the xbox controller?

RAS007
16th June 2017, 19:09
Am I being blind or can you not change brake bias? I can see pressure but that's it.

Also can you not change the button layout on the xbox controller?

Yes, you can change the brake bias. When you're in service, go to Tuning, I think it's in there. You can change all the buttons on the PS4, so must be same for Xbox......

RAS007
16th June 2017, 19:37
Am I being blind or can you not change brake bias? I can see pressure but that's it.

Also can you not change the button layout on the xbox controller?

To change buttons, from main menu go to Options/Extras, then Input, then Device Management, then Input Bindings.

To change brake bias, once in service area, go to Tune Vehicle, then the Brakes tab.

MrJan
16th June 2017, 20:18
Multiplayer rallycross is frustrating, I used to be pretty competitive on DR but can't get the pace :(

Adler
19th June 2017, 20:27
I tried rallycross for the first time today, so far just S1600 and rx2, but the cars feels so much better than the rallycars, really good work.
Although, in Rally, I found some cars can be also fun with some improved Settings, for me it´s the R5 and NR4 class and the Focus 2007. I still hope codemaster will add more different road tiles in the future, and specially fix the strange car behaviour in Rally, obviously they know how to do it (like in rx).

spyros
25th July 2017, 06:48
Its a shame after the great dirt rally they release this,take a look at codies forums,there are lots of complaints and disappointment.