Rally Finland 2015

[rage82]

Problem for Kubica he has now only 2wd and without a midservice he has to make it to the end of leg 1 like that.

[maciotacio]

Shame for RK, he was 4th fastest at I split... :(

[b3637853]

I would not give too much credits to drivers motivations of a slow time at the end of a stage. For sure it is difficult to understand what's wrong with him this year.

Yeah, it is weird season for him, started well in Sweden, then he won some stages in Mexico and then I don't know.

E: Really bad luck for Kubica, day without service and this problem. Is it possible to repair the car by the crew?

[Simmi]

Seems like quite a few differential issues for the Fiestas this season.

[dupanton]

Sordo missed a junction

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Excellent start by Meeke.

[Ucci]

Shame for RK, he was 4th fastest at I split... :(

Aaahh, I feel sorry for him. Again lost rally for him.....no he will compete with DS3 R3T cars....

[Dug83]

Good time by Nikara, not far from the Skoda's.

[dupanton]

Good time by Nikara, not far from the Skoda's.

And Camilli :o

[VFTS]

I feel sorry for Brynildsen. The car stopped early in the stage. But he was fastest in WRC2 from split1 to finish...

[makinen_fan]

Tanak with FL damper problem

[dupanton]

Broken damper for Tanak after an off!

[thuGG]

Hmm, not bad splits from RK, did they fix the diff?

EDIT: They fixed it, but they had to disconnect the handbrake.

[Mirek]

I feel sorry for Brynildsen. The car stopped early in the stage. But he was fastest in WRC2 from split1 to finish...

It's not lost. 30 seconds is not that much.

[dupanton]

Hmm, not bad splits from RK, did they fix the diff?

Apparently yes, it was a sensor problem. But he has no handbrake anymore.

[Mariusz]

Bertelli's moment (https://twitter.com/EdgarWirtanen/status/627029598878990337)

[Miika]

Camilli rolled.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Here comes the big one... Ouninpohja 1 ! :D

[EightGear]

Paddon should be Hyundai's number 2 driver...


Shame about Tanak's damper problem.

[eib1]

Pärn lost wheel

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLOsoqvUYAEE8CM.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLOtIt2WwAAvuUO.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Bertelli off: https://twitter.com/EdgarWirtanen/status/627029598878990337

[stefanvv]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLOtIt2WwAAvuUO.jpg:large


lolz, brilliant

[Mariusz]

Evans with problems? +8.4 on the first split.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

New stage record by Ogier !

[ELPE]

Paddon should be Hyundai's number 2 driver...


Why not number 1 driver?

[Mariusz]

Ogier is just unbelievable...

[stefanvv]

looks like the new aero on the Polo is really helpful here

[Mariusz]

Evans 2nd split +3:09.1 :(

[dupanton]

Evans 2nd split +3:09.1 :(

3th split +2.41.1, so splits can't be correct. Although he is probably loosing time according to WRC Radio.

[Miika]

Evans with problems? +8.4 on the first split.

Ouninpohja the problem:
https://www.facebook.com/valkeala/videos/10204601202374300/

[EightGear]

Are Ostberg's splits correct? At last split he is +10 but at the finish he's +3.8

[Simmi]

Ouninpohja the problem:
https://www.facebook.com/valkeala/videos/10204601202374300/

Nice find. Meeke now in difficulties - possibly down to 3WD.


Incidentally - what do people think of the decision not to have a midday service on this event? Good to see the endurance aspect, or would you rather see guys given the chance to rectify issues?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke: "We have something with a driveshaft. I feel we were on 3WD for 7 or 8 kms" :(

[Mintexmemory]

Nice find. Meeke now in difficulties - possibly down to 3WD.


Incidentally - what do people think of the decision not to have a midday service on this event? Good to see the endurance aspect, or would you rather see guys given the chance to rectify issues?

Given the design and construction of current WRC cars a service every leg should be available as to do otherwise is short-changing the fans. If the manufacturers are told that midday service won't be available for all rallies they can 'beef up' accordingly for the season.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans 17:46.7 'It was fine for a while but we went wide and hit a rock, broke our suspension.'

[Mirek]

Given the design and construction of current WRC cars a service every leg should be available as to do otherwise is short-changing the fans. If the manufacturers are told that midday service won't be available for all rallies they can 'beef up' accordingly for the season.

Current cars are very durable and fully able to do full day without service. It's not like in the past when reliability issues were much bigger problem even with service after every stage. No mid-day service is a problem mainly for those who damage the car by going off etc.

[Mintexmemory]

Whatever the merits of damage / wear we are already at Stage 4 seeing there are only 2 guys that can win this Rally

[Mariusz]

Alternator problem for Robert :(

[dupanton]

Kubica alternator warning light on...

[Ucci]

I'm not Ogier fan, really not, but it must be admitted : he is the Master. Like it or not.....the Quninpohja stage showed it again....
Some disappointments so far : Mikkelsen, Sordo and Neuville.

[Simmi]

Kubica: SS2 (Sensor failure), SS3 (No handbrake, puncture), SS4 (Alternator issue) :(

[thuGG]

Why did Kubica drove with punctured tire from previous stage? Couldn't they change the wheel?

[AL14]

Not the best time for Paddon in Ounhinohja but still going to the top4 spots again, and way better than his teammates.

[Simmi]

Why did Kubica drove with punctured tire from previous stage? Couldn't they change the tire?

I think Julian Porter was commenting that he had a flat in the boot of the car. Now way he was +24 through Ouninpohja with a puncture.

[Aldis S]

Why I cant post nothing?!?!!?

No pictures and links to videos?!? I have evans video from litle bit different angel!

[thuGG]

Colin said he has a puncture, maybe I misunderstood him.

[sindroms]

Why I cant post nothing?!?!!?

No pictures and links to videos?!? I have evans video from litle bit different angel!

Vai tik te nebija tā, ka papriekšu tev jāsavāc kaut kāds noteikts skaits postu (desmit?), tikai tad var sākt kaut ko ielikt/pievienot... Ja nu kas - atmet linku man uz PM - ielikšu ar atsauci uz Tevi.

[stefanvv]

Not the best time for Paddon in Ounhinohja but still going to the top4 spots again, and way better than his teammates.

he explains:
"Right from the start of the stage, every corner I could feel the time loss. Small changes now."

[Simmi]

Brynildsen reportedly off on the road section heading into SS4

via @SaariJarno

[makinen_fan]

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11781873_839659722778442_1346677986056147707_n.jpg ?oh=8b7f460c17e6f5d2ddc7fd56f5497c66&oe=5655EC19

[sindroms]

Why I cant post nothing?!?!!?

No pictures and links to videos?!? I have evans video from litle bit different angel!

Video from user Aldis S. Evans crash from different angle - https://www.facebook.com/peteris.civcs/videos/695024323964456/

[Miika]

Camilli ok no go.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLO6ogfXAAA2qRQ.jpg:large

[EightGear]

Quite a lot of carnage already, which is disappointing. Only Latvala and Ogier left for the win.

A midday service would have been welcome today.

[Eli]

Shame they don't have midday service, the fact they don't have it is hampering chances for anyone who isn't Ogier to win.

[thuGG]

About Kubica alternator problem, some cable broke/was cut, they fixed it with cable tie, but they fear it'll brake again after jumps.

Also, end of the day for Andreas.

[Mirek]

Tidemand was off on Ouninpohja as well.

[dupanton]

Brynildsen reportedly off on the road section heading into SS4

via @SaariJarno

crashed on road section???

[makinen_fan]

Brynildsen reportedly off on the road section heading into SS4

via @SaariJarno

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLO9qxzWUAA-78p.jpg

[JTGANG]

Mikkelsen is also off at SS5

[Simmi]

Shame they don't have midday service, the fact they don't have it is hampering chances for anyone who isn't Ogier to win.

It's the same situation for everyone. I think if Ogier had fallen into difficulties this morning people might have thought this was a better idea. In reality with the exception of Meeke there wasn't anyone else who could get close anyway.

[makinen_fan]

Front view of Evans moment in SS4 (photos)

https://www.facebook.com/adam.owczarek.374/posts/1633316273581722

[makinen_fan]

Tidemand was off on Ouninpohja as well.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLO7m6XWsAABue7.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLO7m7AWoAArS5C.jpg

[OldF]

New stage record on Ouninpohja. Note avarage speed.:D

http://rally-base.com/2015/neste-oil-rally-finland-2015/?ssId=3076




Pos.
No.
Driver / Co-driver
Vehicle
Group
SS time
Aver. speed
sec/km
Diff.Leader
Diff.Prev.


1
34
file:///C:\Users\KENNE_~1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\ 01\clip_image002.png
Giordano Q. / Sarreaud V. (http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=338&crewId=27038)
Citroën DS3 R5
RC2
00:11:51.6
173.98
0.00
00:00:00.0
00:00:00.0


2
77
file:///C:\Users\KENNE_~1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\ 01\clip_image004.png
Suninen Teemu / Markkula Mikko (http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=338&crewId=27072)
Citroën DS3 R3T Max
RC3
00:11:59.8
172.00
0.24
00:00:08.2
00:00:08.2


3
52
file:///C:\Users\KENNE_~1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\ 01\clip_image006.png
Tempestini S. / Chiarcossi M. (http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=338&crewId=27053)
Citroën DS3 R3T Max
RC3
00:12:04.5
170.88
0.38
00:00:12.9
00:00:04.7


4
69
file:///C:\Users\KENNE_~1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\ 01\clip_image004.png
Huttunen Jari / Linnaketo Antti (http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=338&crewId=27064)
Citroën DS3 R3T Max
RC3
00:12:06.5
170.41
0.43
00:00:14.9
00:00:02.0


5
60
file:///C:\Users\KENNE_~1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\ 01\clip_image002.png
Gilbert Quentin / Jamoul Renaud (http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=338&crewId=27058)
Citroën DS3 R3T Max
RC3
00:12:14.1
168.65
0.65
00:00:22.5
00:00:07.6


6
53
file:///C:\Users\KENNE_~1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\ 01\clip_image008.png
Veiby O. / Jaeger Anders (http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=338&crewId=27054)
Citroën DS3 R3T Max
RC3
00:12:16.9
168.01
0.74
00:00:25.3
00:00:02.8


7
102
file:///C:\Users\KENNE_~1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\ 01\clip_image008.png
Aasen Marius / Engan Veronica (http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=338&crewId=27096)
Ford Fiesta R2T
RC4
00:12:17.7
167.82
0.76
00:00:26.1
00:00:00.8


8
54
file:///C:\Users\KENNE_~1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\ 01\clip_image010.png
McKenna Daniel / Grennan Andrew (http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=338&crewId=27055)
Citroën DS3 R3T Max
RC3
00:12:26.3
165.89
1.01
00:00:34.7
00:00:08.6


9
83
file:///C:\Users\KENNE_~1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\ 01\clip_image004.png
Eronen Janne / Mäkelä Ville (http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=338&crewId=27077)
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX
RC2
00:12:28.0
165.51
1.06
00:00:36.4
00:00:01.7


10
63
file:///C:\Users\KENNE_~1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\ 01\clip_image012.png
Della Casa F. / Pozzi Domenico (http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=338&crewId=27060)
Citroën DS3 R3T Max
RC3
00:12:29.6
165.16
1.10
00:00:38.0
00:00:01.6


-
79
file:///C:\Users\KENNE_~1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\ 01\clip_image014.png
Andolfi Fabio / Scattolin S. (http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=338&crewId=27074)
Peugeot 208 R2
RC4
00:12:29.6
165.16
1.10
00:00:38.0
00:00:00.0


12
58
file:///C:\Users\KENNE_~1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\ 01\clip_image002.png
Folb Terry / Le Floch Franck (http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=338&crewId=27057)
Citroën DS3 R3T Max
RC3
00:12:31.5
164.74
1.16
00:00:39.9
00:00:01.9


13
72
file:///C:\Users\KENNE_~1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\ 01\clip_image016.png
Alonso J. / Monasterolo J. (http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=338&crewId=27067)
Ford Fiesta R5
RC2
00:12:38.7
163.18
1.37
00:00:47.1
00:00:07.2


14
66
file:///C:\Users\KENNE_~1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\ 01\clip_image002.png
Perry J. / Reibel Joshua (http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=338&crewId=27062)
Citroën DS3 R3T Max
RC3
00:12:44.3
161.98
1.53
00:00:52.7
00:00:05.6


15
81
file:///C:\Users\KENNE_~1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\ 01\clip_image004.png
Kiviniemi K. / Kangas Matti (http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=338&crewId=27075)
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX
RC2
00:12:54.0
159.95
1.81
00:01:02.4
00:00:09.7


16
78
file:///C:\Users\KENNE_~1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\ 01\clip_image014.png
De Tommaso D. / Bosi M. (http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=338&crewId=27073)
Peugeot 208 R2
RC4
00:13:02.6
158.20
2.06
00:01:11.0
00:00:08.6


17
55
file:///C:\Users\KENNE_~1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\ 01\clip_image018.png
Al Mutawaa M. / McAuley Stephen (http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=338&crewId=27056)
Citroën DS3 R3T Max
RC3
00:13:27.2
153.37
2.78
00:01:35.6
00:00:24.6


18
41
file:///C:\Users\KENNE_~1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\ 01\clip_image020.png
Fuchs Nicolás / Mussano F. (http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=338&crewId=27044)
Ford Fiesta R5
RC2
00:13:49.6
149.23
3.43
00:01:58.0
00:00:22.4


19
62
file:///C:\Users\KENNE_~1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\ 01\clip_image004.png
Haapamäki H. / Salminen Marko (http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=338&crewId=27059)
Citroën DS3 R3T Max
RC3
00:14:34.8
141.52
4.75
00:02:43.2
00:00:45.2


20
1
file:///C:\Users\KENNE_~1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\ 01\clip_image002.png
Ogier S. / Ingrassia J. (http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=338&crewId=27020)
Volkswagen Polo R WRC
RC1
00:15:53.9
129.79
7.05
00:04:02.3
00:01:19.1


21
2
file:///C:\Users\KENNE_~1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\ 01\clip_image004.png
Latvala J. / Anttila Miikka (http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=338&crewId=27021)
Volkswagen Polo R WRC
RC1
00:15:54.3
129.73
7.06
00:04:02.7
00:00:00.4


22
4
file:///C:\Users\KENNE_~1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\ 01\clip_image008.png
Østberg Mads / Andersson Jonas (http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=338&crewId=27023)
Citroën DS3 WRC
RC1
00:15:57.7
129.27
7.16
00:04:06.1
00:00:03.4

[Eli]

It's the same situation for everyone. I think if Ogier had fallen into difficulties this morning people might have thought this was a better idea. In reality with the exception of Meeke there wasn't anyone else who could get close anyway.

Probably true, still sad only Meeke can challenge the VW's in this rally.

[AL14]

I'm working so I'm not following the rally properly but wasn't Kubica going 2wd and Meeke with mechanical problems? How come that they are 3rd and 6th?

[thuGG]

I'm working so I'm not following the rally properly but wasn't Kubica going 2wd and Meeke with mechanical problems? How come that they are 3rd and 6th?

It was a sensor problem for Kubica, they fixed it at the cost of handbrake.

Wysane z mojego SM-G920F przy uyciu Tapatalka

[Simmi]

I'm working so I'm not following the rally properly but wasn't Kubica going 2wd and Meeke with mechanical problems? How come that they are 3rd and 6th?

It was a sensor issue for Kubica on SS2 which was rectified. Back to 4WD but a catalogue of other problems. Meeke says the car feels strange but hasn't been able to locate the issue. Hopefully he can get some advice at the tyre change area.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLPJTNnUkAAWN81.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shame the problems for Meeke, Tanak and Kubica - the men capable of challenging the times of the VW's... :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLPNkx3WwAEtgEg.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLPNk9MWwAABE_u.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLPNlIcWwAQ_cyT.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLPNlU9WgAAr46r.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kubica retired for the day due to alternator. :(

[Simmi]

Yep was just going to say the car is still in Himos on the tracker. Really a shame for him on a day where he didn't actually do anything wrong. Car just fell apart around him.

Also difficult to see him pushing the car one handed.

[AL14]

It was a sensor issue for Kubica on SS2 which was rectified. Back to 4WD but a catalogue of other problems. Meeke says the car feels strange but hasn't been able to locate the issue. Hopefully he can get some advice at the tyre change area.


It was a sensor problem for Kubica, they fixed it at the cost of handbrake.

Wysane z mojego SM-G920F przy uyciu Tapatalka

Thanks guys. It's not the first time a Citroen driver reports "strangeness" of the car without knowing exactly what it is and then they make still decent times...

[Simmi]

Craig Breen confirmed out after developing an engine problem.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Craig Breen: 'All Over - after suffering engine trouble on the previous three stages we've retired at re-group. An oil pressure problem unrelated to our Shakedown accident. We are All devastated, again good speed but not a finish..'

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport: 'Have to give a shout out to Brynildsen in his WRC2 Fiesta. Rolls on SS4 then goes on to win SS5 - what a guy!' :cool:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke is keeping up a decent pace and is still in sight of the VWs... :)

[Simmi]

Looks like Paddon has put it off. A shame as he was on for big points again.

[skory]

Sordo 6:41.1 'It's okay, but Paddon crashed. Car was in the middle of the road.' #WRC #iRally #RallyFinland

[VFTS]

M-Sport: 'Have to give a shout out to Brynildsen in his WRC2 Fiesta. Rolls on SS4 then goes on to win SS5 - what a guy!' :cool:

And i think he did it without the windscreen. Just sunglases...

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLO3nz1XAAAMs8C.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLO8kSVWEAAf5K1.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLO4om9WcAA7cwS.jpg

[Mariusz]

Yep was just going to say the car is still in Himos on the tracker. Really a shame for him on a day where he didn't actually do anything wrong. Car just fell apart around him.
Also difficult to see him pushing the car one handed.
A midday service would have saved Kubica. But it's not only him, Tanak probably would have a fixed car as well and Meeke wouldn't need to worry that something is not working and keep pushing.

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/_idOeW4Q-08

[dimviii]

lolz

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_07_2015/post-1812-0-14950500-1438345560.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Its not the jump, its the landing... :D

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/273/20143652006_cb0cbe983f_b.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Heavy damage for Paddon

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLPl3YeWIAE2cu0.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLPl3cWWsAEQCnE.jpg

[Simmi]

A midday service would have saved Kubica.

Assuming he could have got the car 45mins up the road to Jyvaskyla. But I know what you're saying.

[b3637853]

Latvala is on the charge, almost 2 second up on last split

[AP-Racing]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLPl6OhXAAA_jnR.jpg

[Mariusz]

Nice time, Kris!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Go Meeke ! 4.3s up on Ogier !! :)

[skory]

Good to see JML and Kris so close Seb. I hope it will be like this till the finish.

[Simmi]

Great work from Kris. No stage won by more than a second on this rally until now and he suddenly puts 3 into everyone.

That stage has closed the top 3 up nicely.

[Barreis]

Hardly Ogier is on the limit... ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Not sure having no midday service makes sense on gravel rallies with big jumps... smooth tarmac events I could understand...

[Mariusz]

Hardly Ogier is on the limit... ;)
Maybe, but now the gap is smaller so at some point he will need to go faster.

[stefanvv]

Hardly Ogier is on the limit... ;)

ma be we should wait Ouninpoja 2?

[Ounin]

ma be we should wait Ouninpoja 2?

Oh yes, that's the place to be ... on or off the limit

[stefanvv]

Oh yes, that's the place to be ... on or off the limit

may be You mean "over" the limit?

[Ounin]

may be You mean "over" the limit?


"Over" = "off" ;)

[stefanvv]

"Over" = "off" ;)

aha, so "off" and then it is over

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Latvala on a big push.. great battle now.

[N.O.T]

(1 - Ogier Sébastien / Ingrassia Julien): A clean run, but I'm suffering on the lines in the road from the national rally cars.

the lines magically dissappear once Mr Kaiser passes through... poor Mrs Kaiser, can you imagine what she goes through with such a nagging husband ?

[stefanvv]

the lines magically dissappear once Mr Kaiser passes through...

it's not magic, he corrects them

[N.O.T]

others use WRC lines as well.

[Simmi]

What a soul-destroying day for M-Sport. All that hope and hype for Tanak heading into the rally. All they can really hope to do is set some competitive stage times tomorrow.

[Mirek]

The way Lappi keeps destroying all others in WRC2 is quite spectacular...

[dupanton]

The way Lappi keeps destroying all others in WRC2 is quite spectacular...

Next year line up?
VW I: Ogier and Mikkelsen
VW II: Lappi

[Doon]

Next year line up?
VW I: Ogier and Mikkelsen
VW II: Lappi

No, the current three VW drivers all have contracts for next year

[EightGear]

10 second penalty for Meeke, being late at stage start.


Anyone who knows how this could have happened?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

PENALTY FOR MEEKE
The timing system shows a 10 second penalty for arriving one minute late at the time control before SS9.

Crazy to lose time like this when the battles are so close. :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Other side of Mikkelsens car

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLQDoONWcAAyjRb.jpg

This made his day though !

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLQKmNnWUAAkeAv.jpg:large

[Miika]

The side where the sun don´t shine:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLQIQcKWUAA6eZc.jpg

[dimviii]

Best-of-RallyLive ‏@bestofrallylive
400th stage win for @JariMattiWRC
Well done! #wrc #RallyFinland
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLP4py8WcAAOspM.jpg

so now the Ouninpohja record belongs to Latvala?

[skarderud]

The side where the sun don´t shine:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLQIQcKWUAA6eZc.jpg
VW writes that its possible they can fix the car to restart tomorrow. Really?

[dimviii]

so now the Ouninpohja record belongs to Latvala?

Ouninpohja stats

2004 Solberg.P 15:18.5 for 33,24km with 130.3km/h average
2013 Ogier.S 15:08.9 for 33,01km with 130.7 km/h average
2015 Latvala.JM 15:36.8 for 34,39km with 132.2 km/h average

[dimviii]

VW writes that its possible they can fix the car to restart tomorrow. Really?

no
VolkswagenMotorsport ‏@VolkswagenRally
.@AMikkelsenRally retires from @RallyFinland. His car will be prepared 4 its next start at @RallyAustralia. #WRC

[skarderud]

Yes, looked at Twitter now. It was at Facebook, maybe some older message.

[AL14]

Ogier is a winner acting like a looser. Really, if there were an ignore feature to avoid reading or hearding his pathetic comments I would use it.

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/B1ywJ8VeUZc

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Paddon & Mikkelsen both retired - both cars too badly damaged for Rally2.

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/tXEQ7kyCEys

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Something different...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/EddieFocus/CLPOlQqW8AEdY0t_zpsqobgi9u0.jpg~original

[dimviii]

hard crash...
https://youtu.be/rBJBd7UZv88

[Evian]

NesteOil posted something about parking on Mökkiperä, could someone translate?

Edit: On Facebook...

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

[dimviii]

some nice photos
http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1377

[eib1]

@MSportLtd
We always knew @ElfynEvans was a genius! This is how he fixed his broken suspension for SS5-10!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLQraUEWgAAxbvq.jpg

[Ounin]

No, the current three VW drivers all have contracts for next year

No, in motorsport contracts don't mean anything; more U-turn clausules on it than what the deal actually stands for.

Lappi and Tidemand are very closely followed and analyzed compared to each other, on gravel as well as tarmac because the true champ is an all rounder, if they know which one, JML will be sidelined or "released" to another challenge, seemes to me a plausible procedure. Although I hope he will beat Ogier this weekend.

[dimviii]

borl leg1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm5Zmz094XI&feature=youtu.be

[Miika]

NesteOil posted something about parking on Mökkiperä, could someone translate?


The first official/allowed spectating spot is at 5.5 km, the parts before that are forbidden because the landowners don´t want crowd there (no spectating spots made in that section).

[Miika]

Exit:

http://www.ksml.fi/incoming/2015/07/31/1660615.jpg/BINARY/w800/1660615.jpg
http://www.ksml.fi/incoming/2015/07/31/1660617.jpg/BINARY/w800/1660617.jpg
http://www.ksml.fi/incoming/2015/07/31/1660616.jpg/BINARY/w800/1660616.jpg

[stefanvv]

Exit:

seems rollcage is healthy. why Hyundai can't fix the car then?

[dimviii]

borl photos
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive/

[gorganl2000]

Next year line up?
VW I: Ogier and Mikkelsen
VW II: Lappi

i've become quite skeptical of these wrc2 drivers and their ability to adapt successfully to WRC....granted they may look spectacular at the wrc2 level, but then there's that transition to the big league that really separates the adults from the children

let's wait and see how he performs if he ever gets the chance in the wrc...and by chance i mean at least a few rallies and not a one off situation

i can't see him making the top vw wrc team at the moment....i'm not sure they will move/fire any of their present top 3 drivers

[NoFear85]

maybe another one driver for VW 2 team next year

[stefanvv]

Next year line up?
VW I: Ogier and Mikkelsen
VW II: Lappi

There is not reason VW not to keep their drivers for next year. Latvala had some weak results, but so can do anyone (well except Ogier atm). This rally was not good for Mikkelsen either. it just happens....

[JTGANG]

With cars already breaching previous average speed records and stages with average speed of 132 km/h like Ouninpohja , it seems to me crazy that FIA agreed at such regulations for 2017 with 36 mm turbo restrictors instead of 33 mm

[gorganl2000]

as much as i'd like to see all the teams expand, i'm not sure of even VW bringing on a 4th driver at this stage

based on the current trend,,,,,3 drivers seems the most as it somewhat impacts the team's budget, logistics, etc.

[stefanvv]

With cars already breaching previous average speed records and stages with average speed of 132 km/h like Ouninpohja , it seems to me crazy that FIA agreed at such regulations for 2017 with 36 mm turbo restrictors instead of 33 mm

that comes with improved aero & car dimensions, so it's not bad, cars will be more stable at high speed.

[dimviii]

Latvala when is at ''his day''.Awesome video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLpskd5Ijms&feature=youtu.be&a



turn up the volume
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opd_1bMR-4U

[dimviii]

Jumps
https://youtu.be/IH1f7R7XfRI

[dimviii]

lucky Sordo
https://youtu.be/z-YyxT4PB9Q

[sindroms]

Most popular crash place so far - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noB-QzHXG7o
Btw, Ogier rolled there too - in 2011 tests.

[Lundefaret]

(1 - Ogier Sébastien / Ingrassia Julien): A clean run, but I'm suffering on the lines in the road from the national rally cars.

the lines magically dissappear once Mr Kaiser passes through... poor Mrs Kaiser, can you imagine what she goes through with such a nagging husband ?


There are huge differences in the lines of the National Rally guys and the WRC guys, and Ogier in particular.
A national level driver will have much earlier turn ins, clinging to the inside corner, and with rear wheel drive, push the gravel out in the wide entry line used by Ogier.
Ogier comes in his wide entry line, and can't go in the lines of the national guys, so will have to live with a looser surface, off course affecting his speed.

But, all tough negative for Ogier, this is great for the rally observer. Because You get a clear picture of two things:
1) The difference in lines between national level rally drivers, and the worlds best rally driver.
2) The "evidence" to prove that Ogier runs his own lines even if the cars in front have done different.

[dimviii]

Most popular crash place so far - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noB-QzHXG7o
Btw, Ogier rolled there too - in 2011 tests.

last one was a hard impact.

[Mariusz]

There are huge differences in the lines of the National Rally guys and the WRC guys, and Ogier in particular.
A national level driver will have much earlier turn ins, clinging to the inside corner, and with rear wheel drive, push the gravel out in the wide entry line used by Ogier.
Ogier comes in his wide entry line, and can't go in the lines of the national guys, so will have to live with a looser surface, off course affecting his speed.

But, all tough negative for Ogier, this is great for the rally observer. Because You get a clear picture of two things:
1) The difference in lines between national level rally drivers, and the worlds best rally driver.
2) The "evidence" to prove that Ogier runs his own lines even if the cars in front have done different.

And tomorrow Ogier will have another line as Kubica is the first car on the road. Not sure if the whole day, but there are a lot of people who keep their fingers crossed that no mistakes or car failures stop him from finishing the day.
Section 4 start list (http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/site/assets/files/2620/start_list_for_section_4_tc10d.pdf)

[dimviii]

Mad Mads

https://video-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xfa1/v/t42.1790-2/11778451_906193919447554_715807352_n.mp4?efg=eyJyb HIiOjQ0NCwicmxhIjo1MTJ9&rl=444&vabr=247&oh=cca5d39cd87d406cb4cedf7079ff8f87&oe=55BBF3A3

[N.O.T]

any lake action photos ? or at least some big rock photos ? weren't any pros (LOOOLZ) in this rally ?

[stefanvv]

2) The "evidence" to prove that Ogier runs his own lines even if the cars in front have done different.

following rwd car lines would be just slow for wrc car

[stefanvv]

any lake action photos ? or at least some big rock photos ? weren't any pros (LOOOLZ) in this rally ?

I saw 2 lakes already, one was with 2 bears

[Aldis S]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibVBvPi56dY&feature=youtu.be

[Lundefaret]

following rwd car lines would be just slow for wrc car

Ogier lines are the correct lines, even with RWD.

[N.O.T]

I think Latvala was more nose end first today though.

[stefanvv]

Ogier lines are the correct lines, even with RWD.

not really. with rwd You don't have the front pulling force taking corners earlier. it seems better to keep more speed at these

[Aldis S]

any lake action photos ? or at least some big rock photos ? weren't any pros (LOOOLZ) in this rally ?

Ofcourse there is!!!!! :) Lake + Flowers and car :)

http://s10.postimg.org/oow0f3309/NOT.jpg

[OldF]

I think Latvala was more nose end first today though.

I’ve also an experience with nose end first but that was when I was returning home from a local pub (where I btw once met Kimi).:)

[N.O.T]

Ofcourse there is!!!!! :) Lake + Flowers and car :)

http://s10.postimg.org/oow0f3309/NOT.jpg

when you have lake and flowers cars are obsolete.. that is the way of the pro... LOLzz

[Barreis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibVBvPi56dY&feature=youtu.be

People are completely flegmatic without any excitment. :P Only when someone go off, then it's parade...

[stefanvv]

when you have lake and flowers cars are obsolete.. that is the way of the pro... LOLzz

May be the new name of the rally should be 1000 jumps?!?

[janvanvurpa]

Ogier lines are the correct lines, even with RWD.

I was going to say that I don't understand this idea that there are "different lines" for FWD, RWD and AWD...I've driven roads very much like these and driven them in FWD and RWD and as fun and as rally..

.somehow I come up with the idea that it is the road that determines the line on one hand and the power whatever you drive on the other...
That's after 10s of thousands of km on grave.. and I know that is different from what I call "The Party Line".

Now if those Finns weren't so mean to us speakers of their minority language, I'd love to compare some F-cup times to see where they fit in the scratch (je m' ponce, what you call the overall SS times listing?)

Andbody know where F-cup or vetomies times are hidden?

[nafpaktos]

I think Latvala was more nose end first today though.

Meeke also used the nose end first technique in argentina successfully but after that rally it seems he forgot the technique.now in finland it seems he remembered that technique again.very strange things happen in rallies.someone please help me!!!!!!

[danon]

any lake action photos ? or at least some big rock photos ? weren't any pros (LOOOLZ) in this rally ?

http://s5.postimg.org/g1xabi9fr/1000_lakes.jpg

[gorganl2000]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibVBvPi56dY&feature=youtu.be

i really like the enthusiasm of these spectators...true rally spirit

[N.O.T]

http://s5.postimg.org/g1xabi9fr/1000_lakes.jpg

i pick better spots... usually closer to the lake and with more flowers.

damn even soaked to the bone and at -2 i look gorgeous.

phenomenal.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLS3O_xWwAEX2BV.jpg

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/TfQe5dlbodE

[thuGG]

Isn't that Poland?

[dimviii]

Isn't that Poland?

Yes must be Poland,but worth to watch. http://www.petrolheads.gr/images/smilies/smooth/crazy.gif
this one is definetely at Finland
https://youtu.be/aJmntiWnd4g

[dimviii]

dedicated to NOT

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLTQE20W8AApTDZ.jpg

[dimviii]

maybe he likes this one better.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLTLtb-WUAABmRS.jpg

[tommeke_B]

For N.O.T.

https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t31.0-8/11782280_10153122986692057_6201538223774149015_o.j pg

https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/11794121_10153122986967057_6059295103805357528_o.j pg

[dimviii]

Kai Tarkiainen
‏@KaiTarkiainen
Motherbear with cubs crossed SS Horkka. We'll use the helicopter to guide them into safer grounds! #RallyFinland #welovenature

[dimviii]

Gorban crashed at ss12 crew ok.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLTqdJwW8AA-FS4.jpg

[RS]

Skodas cruising today, a shame for the fans but sensible for the team.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLTvAeeWEAArnpF.jpg

[Mirek]

that comes with improved aero & car dimensions, so it's not bad, cars will be more stable at high speed.

More aero doesn't mean more safe. More aero downforce make it in my opinion much more tricky to drive, not easier.

[Mirek]

Nice video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=y5NbTcAZP1I

[tommeke_B]

More aero doesn't mean more safe. More aero downforce make it in my opinion much more tricky to drive, not easier.

+1. The speed will be higher, especially in the fastest turns, which are the most dangerous. Once things go wrong, I think the consequences could be bigger, not only for the drivers but also for spectators... But another question is, will they use all the possibilities in the regulations? Also the width of the cars can be more from 2017, but I would be surprised if manufacturers would use all of it. At some point it would become so wide that they don't fit into the ruts of "regular" cars anymore, that could be a problem for the 2nd pass. Maybe we can see the comeback of the funny wheels used until mid-2000s in snow rallies like Sweden?

[Simmi]

Skodas cruising today, a shame for the fans but sensible for the team.

Still a very impressive 'cruising' speed. No chance for Pontus to take the time back without a mistake from his team-mate. So it makes perfect sense like you say.

This performance has come at a very nice time for Lappi. His stock is very high. Linked with 3 works WRC drives. Would be strange for him to spend another full season in the Skoda next year.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice close times this morning - last stage (SS13) the Top 3 covered by 0.4s !

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Finland fans spectate relaxed ! :)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLTwX0oUsAAdUyD.jpg

And in luxury
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLTuKG-WgAADUX_.jpg:large

[AL14]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLTvAeeWEAArnpF.jpg

Are they spectators? They are awesome :D

[dimviii]

^yeap

iRally ‏@Official_iRally
No splits coming in for Ogier, but we have a split for Ostberg - he's 4.2s up on Kubica at the opening split #WRC #iRally #RallyFinland

[Miika]

https://igcdn-photos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t51.2885-15/11374508_1617720128468559_98491020_n.jpg

[dupanton]

Are they spectators? They are awesome :D

No, the national drivers with the bad driving lines...

[dimviii]

Latvala's opening split is in, still nothing for Ogier, but Latvala is 5s up on Kubica and 0.8s up on Ostberg #WRC #iRally #RallyFinland

[Eli]

3 seconds lead now for Latvala into the service break

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville saying he cant follow the lines of the others (VWs) as they must have more lateral grip...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS14 so far:
1-Latvala
2-Ogier +1.0
3-Ostberg +2.3
4-Meeke +7.2
5-Neuville +10.1

[Simmi]

So last night the gap between the two VW's was +2.6. Now it's +3.0. Very tight at the top.

All Meeke can do is manage the gap to Mads and hope for a mistake ahead of him.

[AL14]

Jari-Matti and his co-driver are analyse the drive. "Before the stage Miikka told me to try and keep it inside the corners, but I felt I was too sideways."

See? Today Jari-Matti is more nose end first and doesn't want to drive sideways like he did in Poland. ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SP interviews coming up: http://www.wrc.com/live-ticker/live_popup_stream.html

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Latvala making use of one of the 1000 lakes...

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/313/19986610730_a3923bbe01_c.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Drunk Finn sleeps while Latvala's passing at Ouninpohja.. and he doesn't wake up to trumpets either... :D

https://youtu.be/cu6TcDcKW1c

[makinen_fan]

More aero doesn't mean more safe. More aero downforce make it in my opinion much more tricky to drive, not easier.

And any accident will be nastier that it is today... Less safe for both crews and spectators.

[makinen_fan]

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11180607_860638517349385_7949124137514821721_n.jpg ?oh=4bb5fbaf8ff93f2400c69d268592c3f7&oe=5658F6D6

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11228126_823516864436611_1050518747730104702_n.jpg ?oh=c807c928e0993d56f70d09e6e6b79a4a&oe=563C6AF4

[Miika]

Few more of Paddon yesterday:


http://maurihelle.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Motorsport/NORF%202015/417.jpg?img=smaller
http://maurihelle.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Motorsport/NORF%202015/419.jpg?img=smaller
http://maurihelle.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Motorsport/NORF%202015/422.jpg?img=smaller
http://maurihelle.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Motorsport/NORF%202015/425.jpg?img=smaller
http://maurihelle.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Motorsport/NORF%202015/427.jpg?img=smaller
http://maurihelle.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Motorsport/NORF%202015/431.jpg?img=smaller


Full set: http://maurihelle.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Motorsport/NORF+2015/

[makinen_fan]

Video of the above Ogier jump

https://www.facebook.com/GRallynews/videos/514021725412905/

[Lundefaret]

Neuville saying he cant follow the lines of the others (VWs) as they must have more lateral grip...

Yes off course... His lack of pace has nothing at all to do with driving, its all about diffs, tyres, dampers, chassis, etc etc.
And the reason the inexperienced Paddon is so much faster is that he did not attend the team meeting where Neuville told Hyundai how slow their WRC car is, and all the team nodded in agreement, so Paddon is unaware of how slow the car is.
As soon as Paddon gets this memo, he will find his place and be slower than Neuville... Allraighty then?!?

Neuville was on form in the second part of 2013. But has since driven with his shoulders above his ears, and have compensated for the lack of speed by attacking even more, which has made him even slower.
Neuville is a great talent, and has the potential of taking on Ogier, but then someone needs to tell him why he was so fast in 2013, and it was not by driving as he does now.

[RS]

This performance has come at a very nice time for Lappi. His stock is very high. Linked with 3 works WRC drives. Would be strange for him to spend another full season in the Skoda next year.

VW, Citroën and??

I would be surprised if VAG let him go tbh. The natural progression would be for him to go to VW and Pontus to step up to Skoda team leader.

[dimviii]

We retire 12 km from the service. Not allowed to drive on the rim. At least we tried our best! Thanks @MSportLtd

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLUUBe7UsAQQHFC.jpg

[rallye-vid]

VW, Citroën and??


Toyota

[skarderud]

Brynhildsen? Noo, thats shit.

[Finne]

Nice video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=y5NbTcAZP1I

This video gives much better idea how rally looks in live compared to official videos.

[Finne]

Somebody said that Ogier shouldn' complain about road position issues. This is utterly wrong. As far the sport is interrupted with artificial and unsporty rules like this I will support Ogier's complaint. In Loeb's era the rule was more human as the leading championship driver had to drive first on the road only one day (except 1-2 seasons).

I think also Latvala would like to win under clear conditions. He can do it and it's pity if his potentially well earned win will loose its value by this issue.

[dupanton]

Neuville engine troubles, Sordo went off, but continuing now (lost 5min)

[N.O.T]

Somebody said that Ogier shouldn' complain about road position issues. This is utterly wrong. As far the sport is interrupted with artificial and unsporty rules like this I will support Ogier's complaint. In Loeb's era the rule was more human as the leading championship driver had to drive first on the road only one day (except 1-2 seasons).

I think also Latvala would like to win under clear conditions. He can do it and it's pity if his potentially well earned win will loose its value by this issue.

In Loebs era the rules about starting position changed around 3 times... and i will let you guess the winner after these changes.

back to tennis for you.

[Aldis S]

Sordo after SS15!

http://www.ewrc-results.com/quickp/19126_clum_euwsaaz3qv.jpg

And in Satage 15!
http://www.ewrc-results.com/quickp/19126_cluo-bvwuaaj4ts.jpg

[hype]

Is there a water splash on Surkee stage?

[tommeke_B]

Is there a water splash on Surkee stage?

Why?? Normally not. Of course this year conditions can be a bit different...

[mousti]

It's starting to rain..

[hype]

Why?? Normally not. Of course this year conditions can be a bit different...

On rally radio they said there is water on the stage

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLUvAsDWwAAt56f.jpg

[AL14]

Is there a water splash on Surkee stage?

I've seen Ogier's onboard in Surkee just now. What a coincidence!
Anyway, no watersplash except for the very last turn where there is a puddle in the outside of the corner but I would not call it a proper water splash.

[AL14]

In Loebs era the rules about starting position changed around 3 times... and i will let you guess the winner after these changes.

back to tennis for you.

The point is that Loeb did not complain continuously because he didn't need to say everyone he was the best like a pathetic bad-grown child.

[dupanton]

Proper rain and standing water in SS16... Interesting!

[dupanton]

Meeke stopped?!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

auto24 Rally Estonia ‏@RallyEstonia
Heavy rain in the start of Jukojärvi. Meeke and Nagle getting rid of the fog...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLUzINyWUAAeAyj.jpg

[Eli]

So Meeke out????!!!! F***in' hell

[Fast Eddie WRC]

JML 3.3s faster :)

[AL14]

auto24 Rally Estonia ‏@RallyEstonia
Heavy rain in the start of Jukojärvi. Meeke and Nagle getting rid of the fog...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLUzINyWUAAeAyj.jpg

What are they doing here?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke has a broken front left wheel ...

[TWRC]

Meeke out with broken suspension. His future is officially off now I think.

[Mariusz]

Was Mads driving the whole stage in road mode or just part of it? Thierry's car sounds terrible.

[EightGear]

Damn! Matton won't be happy!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville 'It's smells like fuel, but I don't know what's wrong. It's getting worse and worse [the car].

[smsgrafica]

Meeke has great raw speed, but lacks in concentration. I'd love to see him stay at Citroen, but I don't think he will.

[Mintexmemory]

JML 3.3s faster :)

Hold it together JML
Think the opinions that he is to be replaced by skoda-ista are a tad premature. If anything it is Mikkelsen who should look to his laurels. Best car, but still nowhere near Ogier or Latvala on pace and prone (as here) to prangs when pushing. I don't see any major improvement from him.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS16: OGIER There's a chunk missing from one of his wheels. "It happened near the beginning of the stage. I was on the edge of the road, near a ditch, and we hit a rock. I thought we might have a puncture so I backed off. It was okay but not the best time."

[Eli]

Meeke out with broken suspension. His future is officially off now I think.

so Lappi will replace or perhaps Lefebvre?

[Miika]

#63

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLUxvaCVAAAekr1.jpg

[Simmi]

Meeke out with broken suspension. His future is officially off now I think.

Another tough moment for Meeke. But he is the only guy actually fighting with the VW's. That has to count for something.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans said 'Looks like Kris ran wide after a right hander, they were looking at the wheel as we passed.'

[Mintexmemory]

SS16: OGIER There's a chunk missing from one of his wheels. "It happened near the beginning of the stage. I was on the edge of the road, near a ditch, and we hit a rock. I thought we might have a puncture so I backed off. It was okay but not the best time."
Any other driver and they'd have lost 3 minutes, but he stays in contention - devil's own luck!

[smsgrafica]

Another tough moment for Meeke. But he is the only guy actually fighting with the VW's. That has to count for something.

"To finish 1st, first you have to finish..." ;)

[jarauto2]

What are they doing here?
"We have a problem with the windscreen heater

[N.O.T]

another stupid accident by Meeke... he had nothing to fight for.

[TWRC]

so Lappi will replace or perhaps Lefebvre?
I think Lefebvre will be the #2 next year, and Ostberg has to do something big not to get the boot as well.

[Eli]

"We have a problem with the windscreen heater

who is we?

[AL14]

Waiting to know the reasons of Meeke accident but this one seems hardly forgivable. He wasn't in a contention, he just had to reach the finish with a good rithm to keep Ostberg back. No more than that.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak 'We have a problem with the windscreen heater, so you can imagine how challenging it is!' "Really difficult in the rain and we have a problem with the windscreen demister too - the screen is steaming up."

Maybe Meeke had similar problem with bad visibility ?

[Eli]

I think Lefebvre will be the #2 next year, and Ostberg has to do something big not to get the boot as well.

so Lappi & Lefebvre for Citroen Racing/DS next year?

[EightGear]

so Lappi & Lefebvre for Citroen Racing/DS next year?
No way in 10000 years.

[Eli]

No way in 10000 years.

so if Meeke is sacked & being replaced by Lefebvre who will replace Ostberg?

[Mariusz]

so Lappi & Lefebvre for Citroen Racing/DS next year?
It's not a bad idea if they want to fight with Jipocar Czech National Team (nothing against Martin).

[N.O.T]

so if Meeke is sacked & being replaced by Lefebvre who will replace Ostberg?

stop making assumptions on things you do not know and probably don't understand.

[TWRC]

so if Meeke is sacked & being replaced by Lefebvre who will replace Ostberg?
Long shot, but Paddon could jump in...

[Eli]

stop making assumptions on things you do not know and probably don't understand.

sorry my bad

[EightGear]

so if Meeke is sacked & being replaced by Lefebvre who will replace Ostberg?
Nobody, I don't see them both being replaced. Although I wouldn't mind seeing Ostberg go, he has reached his top.