Rally Poland 2015

[EstWRC]

still so angry that it is VW 1-2-3 again in the end of the day. Tänak is always unlucky and it seems it will follow him the rest of the career. Pretty sure he would be in top3 or in the lead if he hadnt brake problems.

[Eli]

looks like it will be like that 'till the end of the season, I say if Ogier doesn't encounter problems in germany, he can take the title there.

[MartijnS]

https://www.facebook.com/rallyemag/videos/vb.68262729972/10153496913124973/?type=2&theater

[EstWRC]

Tänak's tyre after SS8
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJAPmewUYAE_0ZF.jpg:large

[EstWRC]

Tänak: <"We will fix our problems and flat out immediately in the morning":D

[N.O.T]

I start to lose my patience with Mr Neuville... really disappointing year, but on the other hand Paddons performance is really nice so the replacement could be easy.

[EstWRC]

i agree about Neuville, has been very disappointing after sweden. Paddon and Tänak are the ones to watch at the moment i think.

[Ucci]

So, 1st day over; nothing dramatical happened.....1-2-3 for VW, Ogier already in the lead although he swept away some gravel as a front runner.
We need to praise the performance of the next three drivers (Ott, Hayden and Robert), all others average...but I suppose that all can not be between top six places. The race is still long and I'm sure we can expecting some surprises...
I'm definetely expecting more from Meeke.

[RS]

World Rally Cars tyres knackered for the superspecial?

[GigiGalliNo1]

what level of retardation must someone have to take a pic like that ? why did he bother going to Poland one of the fastest rallies to get a picture of some flowers and a car passing on a straight line... incompetence at maximum level.

I agree

[MartijnS]

He also found some food! ;)

https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11017845_719454974847816_1165232131637052578_n.jpg ?oh=cf483a50c8da6934a5143fbc7b738cd9&oe=562C057D

I like it to mix things up, but it shouldn't be the main priority if you go there as a photographer.

[JUF]

Tastes differ. I personally love those kinds of pics. André and his crew are the best :).

[N.O.T]

Tastes differ. I personally love those kinds of pics. André and his crew are the best :).

of course you do... it is how each person perceives things...

after all most of people that claim they like rallying are just some overweight lost souls who go to events to watch the same hairpins each year over and over again... some even go to f1 events.

[A FONDO]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oN_2lMoNPE (OGIER - on The Limit - os/ss7 Stańczyki WRC 72nd RALLY POLAND 2015)

[A FONDO]

what level of retardation must someone have to take a pic like that ? why did he bother going to Poland one of the fastest rallies to get a picture of some flowers and a car passing on a straight line... incompetence at maximum level.

people of art are weird you know :D and you know that saying that "who can't draw becomes a photographer, who can't play instrument becomes a DJ, who can't write becomes a blogger etc" :D

[GigiGalliNo1]

I like it to mix things up, but it shouldn't be the main priority if you go there as a photographer.

He doesn't work with Andre. Nikos works alone and has his own style which differs to Andre...

[GigiGalliNo1]

I like it to mix things up, but it shouldn't be the main priority if you go there as a photographer.

He doesn't work with Andre. Nikos works alone and has his own style which differs to Andre...

[sindroms]

Meeks off - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drrnYDQKbR0 in SS8 - 10.6 km from start ;)

[PLuto]

Starting order for tomorrow is ready - http://rally-base.com/2015/lotos-rally-poland-2015/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=573

[bowler]

That shows why the spectator area is identified. The car did not stray into the spectator zone. Lucky the spectators who went into "car" zone weren't hit

[rallyfun]

what level of retardation must someone have to take a pic like that ? why did he bother going to Poland one of the fastest rallies to get a picture of some flowers and a car passing on a straight line... incompetence at maximum level.

You pretend to be rally guru, now photography guru but you have no clue in any of those, you just proved you're an idiot.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I like it to mix things up, but it shouldn't be the main priority if you go there as a photographer.

Rally togs take 100's of photo's at each event, but who wants to see just a car, gravel and dust 100's of times...

The cars and their travel through the stages are the priority, but they also have to show ambiance and context.

[N.O.T]

You pretend to be rally guru, now photography guru but you have no clue in any of those, you just proved you're an idiot.

back to your hairpin kid, thats where the action is.

[GigiGalliNo1]

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[liposh]

I think N.O.T. needs a woman...or Snickers :D N.O.T, You are not You when You are hungry.

[N.O.T]

Rally togs take 100's of photo's at each event, but who wants to see just a car, gravel and dust 100's of times...

The cars and their travel through the stages are the priority, but they also have to show ambiance and context.

of course you need variety but if you go to a rally and 7 out of 10 places you visit are based on the scenery rather than the action offered then you simply should just go to grand canyon/lake tahoe and taj mahal and some weddings instead of a rally....

pictures from pros nowadays are more appropriate to be used by the countrys tourism ministry to promote the country rather than the rally...

for example take a look at the spots Martinjns,kksf,bunnings capture the footage and pictures, they are 1000 gazzilion times better than those of some pros (some are still really really good)... the aforementioned guys are true hardcore rally spectators who know what rallying is about thats why their footage are amazing, they do research of each stage they visit and it shows rather than following the organisers instructions, they know how a car is going to behave on each spot, if you let a pro photographer choose a spot he will probably choose a handbrake hairpin because their perception of the sport is really really poor and it is very sad if you take into account the amount of events they have been into, and then you have them complain about the photographers that offer their photos for free...

[N.O.T]

I think N.O.T. needs a woman...or snickers

why not both ?

[marcosg]

the aforementioned guys are true hardcore rally spectators who know what rallying is about thats why their footage are amazing, they do research of each stage they visit and it shows rather than following the organisers instructions, they know how a car is going to behave on each spot, if you let a pro photographer choose a spot he will probably choose a handbrake hairpin because their perception of the sport is really really poor

I had the priveliege to join one of those "pros" in a couple of events, and I can tell you that I recceed the events from start to finish as if I was a proper competitor, even if it was the 3rd time on that event... and many of the places were chosen by judging in advance how the car would behave...

while observing his work, I ofte3n tended to question his decisions on the photos he would take because of my "fan" aproach: we want all the photos to be what they call "action" photos... but I learned to understand why he makes those decisions and why other kind of photos are also needed...

I think you're being a little short sighted by a lack of knowledge of how they do their work and who they work for...

[danon]

How about fruits...

http://www.redbull.com/cs/RedBull/RBImages/000/000/387/550/photo610x343a/loeb-rally-finland-portrait.jpg

[marcosg]

https://www.facebook.com/kubicaonboard/videos/1600609583543540/

nice kubica interview... I think it is the first time I heard him talk about his "limitations"

[N.O.T]

I had the priveliege to join one of those "pros" in a couple of events, and I can tell you that I recceed the events from start to finish as if I was a proper competitor, even if it was the 3rd time on that event... and many of the places were chosen by judging in advance how the car would behave...

while observing his work, I ofte3n tended to question his decisions on the photos he would take because of my "fan" aproach: we want all the photos to be what they call "action" photos... but I learned to understand why he makes those decisions and why other kind of photos are also needed...

I think you're being a little short sighted by a lack of knowledge of how they do their work and who they work for...

you were lucky and joined a true pro then... as i said there are a few really good ones who are both technically proficient when it comes to photography but also understand rallying to each core.

[Mirek]

Starting order for tomorrow is ready - http://rally-base.com/2015/lotos-rally-poland-2015/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=573

Al Attiyah, who retired in the first proper stage starts 26th after Koltun but Lefebvre who retired some six stages later starts 31st behind WRC3 competitors. Where is any logic in that?

[dimviii]

Tanak
https://youtu.be/wXFrfcrm2gU

https://youtu.be/EbDfPT6OgJU

[N.O.T]

Tanak
https://youtu.be/wXFrfcrm2gU

https://youtu.be/EbDfPT6OgJU

useless spots... not even a small lake or flowers....

[Lord_Shaitan]

Kubica:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edOKcPGf16c

Some of the spectators are complete idiots... :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvXUCj8q44w

[EstWRC]

Damn, spin for Tänak and had to reverse and go back. Would have won the stage without it and taken some time back from Ogier but lost 3.8 now.

[Ucci]

https://www.facebook.com/kubicaonboard/videos/1600609583543540/

nice kubica interview... I think it is the first time I heard him talk about his "limitations"

Indeed, very good and honest words...respect to Robert.

[EstWRC]

Tänak without problems this stage and a stage win, pity for the spin on first stage, would have taken 10 seconds back already from Ogier.

[AL14]

LOL, it' funny when Prokop is too lazy to comment his stage :D

A better start to the day than Friday. "I had a good night's sleep!"

[Francis44]

Evans Fiesta retired on road section, I hope Tanak's will hold until the end of the day. Way too many problems with the new Fiesta Mr. Wilson.

[AL14]

Does anyone know what is the difference between Paddon and Neuville's car?
Has Paddon the same car as Neuville in Sweden pheraps?

[maciotacio]

Well if i'm not wrong, Thierry has got the newest evolution of engine, with all new bits. Paddon hasn't, so i'm more and more impressed by his pace in Poland and Italy.

[AL14]

Well if i'm not wrong, Thierry has got the newest evolution of engine, with all new bits. Paddon hasn't, so i'm more and more impressed by his pace in Poland and Italy.

Here the engine is very important, so yes, I'm impressed too. 90% of drivers would be under rally2 in his place today. He's clever too.

[EstWRC]

Take that VW boys!!! That was nice! damn problems yesterday!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good job again by Tanak.

He's putting the likes of Neuville to shame here. They both have decent road positions but he still cant cut it... :(

Paddon also doing well against his team-mate.

Citroen's are poor again... just not good enough on the high-speed stuff. Confidence is low.

[EstWRC]

About Citroen, Mads mentioned in the press conference that the situation in the team is "complicated" at the moment, i wonder what that means and that is why they didnt test for poland. And Meeke is not allowed to push after shakedown incident, thats the impression i got in the end of one of the stages.

[Astro83]

some one knows if ss13 is live on a tv-channel on internet?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

BT Sport 1

Nice shots from the heli ! :)

[Astro83]

BT Sport 1

Nice shots from the heli ! :)

Thank you man!

[dimviii]

engine oil pressure for Hirsch too....

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_07_2015/post-1430-0-29156300-1436003487.jpg

[EstWRC]

Tänak into third and splitting VW's, wuhuuuuu!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville saying this was the first stage he has pushed on.. What was he waiting for ??

Tanak good again and takes Latvala for 3rd O/A. :)

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJDzzRHWwAADP1s.jpg

[AL14]

Latvala is a beaten man. That off in Sweden has been a sentence.
Good job from Paddon and Tanak but as long as Ogier is there no one can aim more than a second place.

[dimviii]

https://instagram.com/p/4tnN1cHa0V/

[makinen_fan]

mistake at a junction by Tanak

https://www.facebook.com/KonstAsia/videos/1108382439189043/?fref=nf

[Bartek]

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11403112_920612171325335_5114098929949766361_n.jpg ?oh=613a0e81ca8e1b37c46fb9ed2d32a805&oe=565CABCD

[6789]

Sorry - link previously posted

Hope for Mikkelsen to fight back this afternoon

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS14 cancelled ...

[litifeta]

Last 70k will be interesting. Seb can take it easy but nobody else can

[EstWRC]

https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11012168_941701055890204_1113871036754760154_n.jpg ?oh=605fa6fd101817f2a3733d64b5682009&oe=5613933B

[christy but]

wrc rallys are just too short now.the rally is just getting going and it nearly finished..the sunday in wrc now is too short..

[dimviii]

https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11012168_941701055890204_1113871036754760154_n.jpg ?oh=605fa6fd101817f2a3733d64b5682009&oe=5613933B

what a photo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJEe2FKVEAIklfm.jpg

[dimviii]

crowds moving at next stage

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJE4LRzWcAAge0E.jpg


#tyres information: 1/2 Ostberg: 4 LTX Force H4 +1S - Latvala: 3S+2H - Mikkelsen: 4H+1S - Neuville/Sordo/Abbring: 5S
Paddon:3S+2H
Meeke: 3H+2S
Tanak: 4H+1S
Lappi: 4S+1H
Tiedman: 3S+2H

Matt Jelonek ‏@MattJelonek
#WRC Drivers are stuck between stages, organizers are asking spectators to let them pass (via access roads) @Official_iRally @Becsywecsy


photo from Lavadinho
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJEQBuVWsAAUNAY.jpg

[dimviii]

VolkswagenMotorsport ‏@VolkswagenRally 2 λεπτάΠριν από 2 λεπτά Προβολή μετάφρασης
So, let's get back to business with SS15 starting in a few minutes. It was the fastest stage of the whole year in 2014, average: 136,88 kph!


Ogiers choice was absent from Michelins twit.

[EstWRC]

Ogier has same as Latvala

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS9-13 summary incl. Tanak & Kubica spin's https://youtu.be/hhoBqPAJbyw

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Better rally photo ;)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJE68lIUwAEqqrT.jpg:large

[N.O.T]

Better rally photo ;)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJE68lIUwAEqqrT.jpg:large

needs more lake or some vegetables.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Abbring
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/263/18786513973_fd3f01cb90_b.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No splits or even stage times on WRC or Rally-Base ?

[dimviii]

No splits or even stage times on WRC or Rally-Base ?

http://www.ewrc-results.com/results.php?e=19125&s=82186&t=lotos-rally-poland-2015

[EstWRC]

Tänak loses third but long stage to go now!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS15
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJFJbrtWoAAkidV.jpg:large

[marcosg]

mikkelsen ss16: this was our chance...

it's going to be something special if he is to beat ogier tomorrow...

[N.O.T]

why everything stopped in wrc.com ??

[Eli]

mikkelsen ss16: this was our chance...

it's going to be something special if he is to beat ogier tomorrow...

mistake from Ogier?

[marcosg]

mistake from Ogier?

most probably not so...

great time from tanak on this stage... nice fight for the podium

[EstWRC]

this is just awesome, you crazy man. Tänak: "We didnt see anything in the dust but we went blind in it and i didnt lift at all!"

[christy but]

1 stage tomorrow repeated twice...could be a difficult stage to run if big numbers of spectators turn up.

[PLuto]

why everything stopped in wrc.com ??

Maybe that they think, that cancelled is not only one SS, but rest of the leg?

[PLuto]

No splits or even stage times on WRC or Rally-Base ?

Rally-base results are working now. There was only problem with cancelled stage.

[latek]

Massively impressed with Tanak. If it were not for the brakes problem yesterday he would be leading now.

[EstWRC]

Yep, and the spin today. But im very happy

[dimviii]

Yep, and the spin today. But im very happy

what did he said that wasnt proper?

Ott Tänak ‏@OttTanak
Sorry @Becsywecsy and @vwrallytheworld I was a little excited with the fight with @JariMattiWRC that stage time meant so much to me...

[TWRC]

what did he said that wasnt proper?

Ott Tänak ‏@OttTanak
Sorry @Becsywecsy and @vwrallytheworld I was a little excited with the fight with @JariMattiWRC that stage time meant so much to me...
"F*ck the VWs" or something like that :D

[eib1]

"F**k the VWs - yeah!" he says at the stage end

[EstWRC]

Exactly:D...before he said it Latvala went and shook hands with him :)...

[dimviii]

borl photos
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive/

[dimviii]

borl video day 2
https://youtu.be/GkBH_yWQXE4

[Bartek]

https://www.facebook.com/rallyemag/videos/vb.68262729972/10153499447659973/?type=2&theater > RK

https://www.facebook.com/rallyemag/videos/vb.68262729972/10153499569939973/?type=2&theater > VW

[dimviii]

Ogier reminds us the equal road conditions.


Sébastien Ogier ‏@SebOgier
... Tomorrow morning we'll have equal conditions with Andreas to finish the fight. It promises to be exciting until the end!" #RallyPoland

[PLuto]

Ogier reminds us the equal road conditions.


Sébastien Ogier ‏@SebOgier
... Tomorrow morning we'll have equal conditions with Andreas to finish the fight. It promises to be exciting until the end!" #RallyPoland

This is one of the reasons why I dont like Ogier...

[dimviii]

Tanak flat out at jump
https://youtu.be/Lg2Q8d-TNPQ

[EstWRC]

Tanak flat out at jump
https://youtu.be/Lg2Q8d-TNPQ

unbelievable !!!!!!

[dimviii]

watch where spectators are standing....
https://www.facebook.com/rallyemag/videos/vb.68262729972/10153499569939973/?type=2&theater

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJF77wwWoAAXDT8.jpg

[EstWRC]

taken by Jaanus Ree https://instagram.com/jaanusree/ and http://jree.ee/galleries/

be sure to check out his site after the rally, he takes amazing photos :)

[dimviii]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1369

[N.O.T]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1369

Great gallery

Flowers, lakes, women but the focus is on action mostly... very nice.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Eat my dust ...

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3731/19215918589_edcb4dcf8c_b.jpg

[dimviii]

cant get my eyes out of this photo!!
crazy jump from Ott
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJGLd-7UYAIzjGA.jpg:large

[N.O.T]

it would be interesting to see the video of this jump and how he managed to straighten this thing...

[olemann]

it would be interesting to see the video of this jump and how he managed to straighten this thing...

It is not easy today to defend themselves against poorer competitors starting 24 to 36 minutes later and get a clean run. Last it was Paddon and today it Tanak. Anyway it's the best that is on top of the podium in the end.

[bluuford]

Ogier reminds us the equal road conditions.

Sébastien Ogier ‏@SebOgier
... Tomorrow morning we'll have equal conditions with Andreas to finish the fight. It promises to be exciting until the end!" #RallyPoland

Completely calm weather is forecasted for first stage and up to +34 degrees for the powerstage. Enjoy the dust in equal roadconditions my dear firend ;-)

[dimviii]

it would be interesting to see the video of this jump and how he managed to straighten this thing...

also interesting would be if we could see the footage from the phone of the spectator who is at the edge of the road inside the grass.

[danon]

Click on the pic to play the vid...

http://s15.postimg.org/w8xetn2jf/t1jump.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg2Q8d-TNPQ)

[dimviii]

^^^^like at 0,06 to hear the limiter while jumping

[GigiGalliNo1]

698

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[GigiGalliNo1]

701

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Click on the pic to play the vid...

http://s15.postimg.org/w8xetn2jf/t1jump.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg2Q8d-TNPQ)

Reminds me of the Group B era. Spectacular. :cool:

[SubaruNorway]

watch where spectators are standing....
https://www.facebook.com/rallyemag/videos/vb.68262729972/10153499569939973/?type=2&theater

Not that big of a deal unless there are just as many standing after the landing, it's a straight road with threes lining it so pretty hard to go the wrong way over the jump.

[AL14]

there were people 80 metres from the road inside a corner at the shakedown and a huge crowd nearly in the road in a jump taken at more than 100 kmh. Can't find any logic in that. And the fact it is a straight is not an excuse. It's easy for a car that fast to change the direction if it doesn't land properly.

[bowler]

they were lucky to have only one stage cancelled. The people at the base of the jump get a great view if everything is good, and get killed if it isn't. Very dangerous, but exciting. The question has to be what would have happened if it had gone wrong, and how much damage would it have done to the people and to the sport of Rally. Huge damage to both is the answer.

[EstWRC]

another good jump from Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXQQdhJuQNQ

[rallye-vid]

wtf... ;)

[Crocone]

Any link for the Power stage?

[EstWRC]

more jumps from this crazy place https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1Bt2SHZ3jY

[latek]

wrc.com results and splits still frozen. Amateurs...

[Mintexmemory]

This is one of the reasons why I dont like Ogier...

What? Just for telling it like it is? Get over it.
BTW Loeb-ettes the man is winning from road cleaning positions, he doesn't have to pander to the image conscious!

[WRC1]

wow! very cool reaction from paddon of what happen in ss18 :)

We took it nice and easy in here. Thierry was trying to put the pressure on , but we're okay, I was prepared to give away a few seconds to him in here.

[SkodaR5]

any live stream link ?

[sindroms]

Could be a mistake from wrc+ or what? I can not find one tenth of a second...

[EstWRC]

wrc+ is always showing the times weirdly.

[EstWRC]

must hold on the third place, must hold on the third place, must hold on the third place.....

[bowler]

must hold on the third place, must hold on the third place, must hold on the third place.....

Tanak has driven very well. I hope he can hold on too.

[EstWRC]

Rally Trivia: most recent #WRC events where 4 or more drivers finished within 30 seconds of winner
Italy 1997
Sweden 2000
New Zealand 2010

[dimviii]

@thierryneuville crossed the finish line with some stuff from the route #RallyPoland #WRC

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJIpD9DVAAAP4LS.jpg

[dimviii]

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11219323_10153336341360733_450078899460634907_n.jp g?oh=c54ee680322ff4f6397a03b92c1acd61&oe=5623B02C

[dimviii]

Meeke crazy jump
https://youtu.be/x5aFN_lW4NM

[6789]

Shot of Neuville's moment

https://www.facebook.com/BH.Multimedias/photos/a.157300844331357.34372.157126557682119/922217934506307/?type=1

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJI7hbkWEAAftLK.jpg

[rallyfiend]

I'm sure this will not have helped his (rumoured) ever decreasing popularity within the team...

[WRC1]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJI7hbkWEAAftLK.jpg

shot of the year, i would say....i few flowers in the front and it would be perfect ;)

[Mintexmemory]

shot of the year, i would say....i few flowers in the front and it would be perfect ;)

Think it lacks a windmill in the background (old fashioned wooden structure not a modern turbine)

[jarauto2]

Any link for the Power stage?http://www.vipleague.me/motorsports/312668/1/fia-world-rally-championship-baranowo-power-stage-:-round-7-day-3--live-stream-online.html

[mohit]

tanak has shown what he is capable of

finland will be interesting

[bowler]

Is there a problem for Bertelli? Tracking shows him still in service.

[N.O.T]

Is there a problem for Bertelli? Tracking shows him still in service.

maybe he is with mommy.

[EstWRC]

:D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

shot of the year, i would say....i few flowers in the front and it would be perfect ;)

taken by the same photographer that took the 'flowers' photo, Lavadinho ... :rolleyes:

[Ounin]

tanak has shown what he is capable of

finland will be interesting

With teammate Lukyanuk, hope Tänak won't get nervous ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Live link : http://www.vipleague.is/motorsports/312668/1/fia-world-rally-championship-baranowo-power-stage-:-round-7-day-3--live-stream-online.html

[bowler]

bertelli out, but possibly late for start?

[dimviii]

With teammate Lukyanuk, hope Tänak won't get nervous ;)

no way.

[Mirek]

Nice when live results and splits on wrc.com are down during power stage...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Latvala ready to fight for the podium:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJIgSXkWgAA02Kp.jpg

[vino_93]

Why Abbring and Bertelli didn't start between Evans and Prokop, but after Ogier ?

[WRC1]

taken by the same photographer that took the 'flowers' photo, Lavadinho ... :rolleyes:

nope, the neuville photo was taken by gergely makay from hungary (for sure he works for lavadinho) but still....

[6789]

Kubica with a right rear puncture.. Drops to 8th

[dimviii]

Kubica with a right rear puncture.. Drops to 8th

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJJOLPnXAAAjs3w.png

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Latvala going for it !

aaaand off !!!

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJJQGlhUsAArsk-.png

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak doesnt know and flies through the stage ! :eek:

'I pushed like F**K !' :D

[litifeta]

wow will Latvala make it to the finish

[RS]

Latvala's Polo won't start. Will drop further behind the VW no.3 in the championship now..

Congratulations Tanak!

[6789]

Top drive by Tanak, bring on Finland!

[dimviii]

Latvalas engine temp is high,maybe cant reach finish.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Latvala will struggle with that damage

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJJQsxWWIAA0zSk.jpg

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJJRMDvWUAAH2Iq.jpg

[litifeta]

loved Tanak's interview at the end. Great to see someone not speaking in advertising or managed drivel

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak - fantastic !!

Fantanakstic ! :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJJTq8SXAAAoW0U.jpg:large

[MartijnS]

Yes, he was the man!

[AL14]

Lappi wins WRC2. He has been faster than a couple of WRC cars. Very very good job.

Men of the weekend: Tanak, Lappi and Paddon.
But the best performance goes to: Flowers.

[A FONDO]

Fantastic two cameras at the end of the stage that very well represented the difference - Prokop and Hyuhdai tourists then Citroens then the top guys. Ogi almost lost the win at the penultimate corner but he had probably collected enough advantage before that.

[bowler]

congratulations to Ogier, Mikkelson, Tanak. Sorry to Latvala. Will he make service? .If not then does paddon take 4th?, Neuville 5th?

[EstWRC]

tears of joy in my eyes, means so much to me. damn 0.1 sec on power stage :)

[RS]

Lappi wins WRC2. He has been faster than a couple of WRC cars. Very very good job.

Very good drive indeed. Tidemand a little disappointing in comparison, but I suppose Lappi had a lot more experience of the car.

The Skoda seemed to have a very clear advantage on this fast event, didn't expect to see Kremer 'battling' with Ketomaa.

[AL14]

Do VW can choose Mikkelsen as a manufacturer driver for next rallies? Or are they forced by contract to keep Latvala as second driver?

[bluuford]

If Latvala makes it till the end with this car.. it is miracle. Radiator is basically twisted it is +34 outside.. and over 10 km to go, no way

[AL14]

tears of joy in my eyes, means so much to me. damn 0.1 sec on power stage :)

You said it he could be the surprise. Congrats to you and to him ;)

[Mirek]

Very good drive indeed. Tidemand a little disappointing in comparison, but I suppose Lappi had a lot more experience of the car.

We don't know the team strategy but since Lappi is the only one doing all rounds it may be that others are ordered to take it a little easier.

[bowler]

latvala moving

[bluuford]

latvala moving
He is properly speeding.. 110 on the road and 80 on the village.. I have driven this road, it is 90 and 50 .

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Well done Lappi - another great result for the Skoda R5 !

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJJX3tXW8AAC0Xz.jpg:large

[AL14]

stopped again, very close to SP.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier still puts the rest in the shade, even running first on gravel. Unstoppable now for title no.3.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJJXwZBWoAAmFhx.png:large

[bowler]

latvala made it back to service

[bluuford]

latvala made it back to service
Just before the service he reached to 128 km/h, seems he is late. I do not know how it is possible to drive that fast on this road.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ott Tänak ‏@OttTanak
What a feeling !!!!! Thank you so much to the boss and MSport they given me and Raigo a great car to fight with !!

[bluuford]

Latvala entered to service after Ott, but he should have entered before, seems that some penalties are coming

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport are back in the game !

Return to SP video :) https://twitter.com/OttTanak/status/617657640399847424

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJJdsTpWwAAPbeT.jpg:large

[bowler]

penalty is 10 secs per minute of latenes I think

[liposh]

We don't know the team strategy but since Lappi is the only one doing all rounds it may be that others are ordered to take it a little easier.

THIS (what you say) plus the fact Lappi has spent thousands of kilometers during development of Fabia R5, so he knows better where to push...all and all it makes perfect sense and both are doing excelent job so far. Moreover Pontus should be this year APRC champion (Gill it not same level driver despite having more experience but also Gill has much more hot head) so there is no need to be sad :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

How did Meeke ever get away with this ?? :eek:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJJXD-6VAAAgTmO.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville still finished !
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJJCQWBWEAArJrA.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJJCQZgWEAA0Bap.jpg

[EightGear]

Real good performance by Tanak, finally. It was known he is capable of these kind of performances but this is the first time this season he showed it.

Also Paddon has definitely convinced me now, again outperforming Sordo and Neuville. Talking about Sordo, he was quite disappointing, like Ostberg. Both should be capable of more with their experience.

I have given up on Latvala for good now. Mikkelsen is getting close to his first victory but without Ogier getting into trouble he won't win yet.

Abbring had a steep learning curve, especially with no pre event test these kind of stages are probably the most shocking to get to learn a WRC car. Setting similar times to Prokop is not too bad considering that I think.

[liposh]

I have given up on Latvala for good now. Mikkelsen is getting close to his first victory but without Ogier getting into trouble he won't win yet.


I agree. Latvala can be fast, but he will never be world champion. Sad but true. He doesn´t have head for it. And Mikkelsen could be this year´s vice-master. I bet he will be. He is fast, but without Ogier´s mistake he can´t win. Not yet.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Congrats Tanak and M-Sport! 704

[MartijnS]

40 sec penalty for Latvala. 5th overall it is.

[dimviii]

look at the twit. ''the teamis so happy'' lol
https://twitter.com/OttTanak

[dimviii]

VolkswagenMotorsport ‏@VolkswagenRally
#WRC drivers' standings: 1 #Ogier 161, 2 #Mikkelsen 83, 3 #Ostberg 69, 4 #Latvala 66, 5 #Neuville 58 #Volkswagen #RallyPoland

VolkswagenMotorsport ‏@VolkswagenRally
#WRC manufacturers' standings: 1 #Volkswagen 214, 2 Citroen 125, 3 Hyundai 123, 4 M-Sport 114, 5 #Volkswagen II 49 #RallyPoland #Rallying

[N.O.T]

Great rally overall with some spectacular stages.... the WRC needs more events like these.

[WUff1]

Real good performance by Tanak, finally. It was known he is capable of these kind of performances but this is the first time this season he showed it.

Also Paddon has definitely convinced me now, again outperforming Sordo and Neuville. Talking about Sordo, he was quite disappointing, like Ostberg. Both should be capable of more with their experience.

I have given up on Latvala for good now. Mikkelsen is getting close to his first victory but without Ogier getting into trouble he won't win yet.

Abbring had a steep learning curve, especially with no pre event test these kind of stages are probably the most shocking to get to learn a WRC car. Setting similar times to Prokop is not too bad considering that I think.

I think Neuville could leave Hyundai after this season. He never seemed happy with Hyundai at all and could never get back to his former performance level with M-Sport, now even yougster Paddon being faster.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJJv9i1UAAAEFoG.png

[MartijnS]

https://www.facebook.com/adam.bajtek/videos/919667668096784/?pnref=story
Flat Out Hyundai :D

[GigiGalliNo1]

Great rally overall with some spectacular stages.... the WRC needs more events like these.

Come here and say that.

Not the best organized!!! I disliked it here...

[MartijnS]

Why?

[Kalm]

cant get my eyes out of this photo!!
crazy jump from Ott
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJGLd-7UYAIzjGA.jpg:large

video of that jump : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXQQdhJuQNQ

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/316/18814031004_9ae8503bee_b.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/389/19429066562_101b32afc3_b.jpg

BORL photo's https://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive/

[Ucci]

Very exciting rally is finished! I enjoyed it very much. Although the ''Master'' won it again, the gaps very close, it proved to be an interesting event.
Few facts which I want to share : except Evans all top drivers finished the rally. With the speeds, outside temperatures, jumps....the WRC cars are not that piece of crap.
The men of the past three days : Ott Tanak. If he will continue with this speed in Finland, top three finish is reachable for him.
Hayden Paddon impressed once more, I didn't think he will be able to carry on with his dominant show from Italy. Very good indeed!
Neuville - starting to lose ground under his feet. I think he sees Hayden constantly in his nightmares.....
Rober Kubica; the local boy....well, I'm a bit disappointed with you guys, nobody said nothing about his performance this weekend. After all guy finished the rally (what a success!!), didn't have any ''journey'' into the woods&lawns; he beat fair & square Sordo, Ostberg and almost Meeke.
Talking about Meeke - I still expected more from him. I know that a roll on SD brings little to driver's self-confidence, but he is a pro and during this event he was totally lost.
Sordo; sub-average event for him. Finland should be better for him, at least I hope so.

[Rallyper]

Click on the pic to play the vid...

http://s15.postimg.org/w8xetn2jf/t1jump.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg2Q8d-TNPQ)

Just saying: CRAZYYY!!! (But dangerous for spectators oc) Anyway so nice!!

[Rallyper]

another good jump from Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXQQdhJuQNQ

@NOT That´s the one I believe!

[N.O.T]

yes that is the one... great rally but needs better marshalling i think.

[Rallyper]

taken by the same photographer that took the 'flowers' photo, Lavadinho ... :rolleyes:

Tell N.O.T. ;)

[thuGG]

I was there, Ott was crazy!!
There were not enough marshalls, maybe 1 in 200-300 meters.

[Rallyper]

Very good drive indeed. Tidemand a little disappointing in comparison, but I suppose Lappi had a lot more experience of the car.

The Skoda seemed to have a very clear advantage on this fast event, didn't expect to see Kremer 'battling' with Ketomaa.

Disagree as a swedish fan. Tidemand very early didn´t push too hard. And orders in the background isn´t known as well.

[Fly]

Talking about Meeke - I still expected more from him. I know that a roll on SD brings little to driver's self-confidence, but he is a pro and during this event he was totally lost.


Meeke didn't do any pre-event testing, nor did Ostberg. They (DS) tested and focused on Finland.

[Fly]

Very good drive indeed. Tidemand a little disappointing in comparison, but I suppose Lappi had a lot more experience of the car.

The Skoda seemed to have a very clear advantage on this fast event, didn't expect to see Kremer 'battling' with Ketomaa.

According to drivers and co-drivers in Ypres, the Skoda is clearly the faster R5. Then the DS3, then the 208. Didn't hear about the Fiesta but it must be "slower" than the 3 others. Maybe easier to drive. Sorry for the OT.

[EstWRC]

@NOT That´s the one I believe!

another angle of this jump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwZr2vipJqs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8BUcPS3hL4

and more jumps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqjDl8ev2hU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28J5RODotBM


i will be walking around with a huge smile on my face the next couple of days. Wanted to see earlier this kind of performance but i think it was the right decision from the team and Tänak to learn in the first half of the season and start to push in the second half.

Tänak, Ogier, Mikkelsen, Paddon and Kubica the drivers for me this rally. I agree with N.O.T, we need more rallies like these and the drivers loved it too. Cant comment the organizing.

Cant wait for Finland now where Tänak has always been very fast and its like home event for us estonians. And im also there :)

[AL14]

Meeke didn't want to crash again. If you are careful in such fast events you loose more time than in other rallys. Same with Latvala for example.
I'm sure in Finland Kris will be in good shape like last year. That's what happen if you are one of the most fast driver in the world but still a human being.
If you are not human like we know who you don't have these kind of problems.

[Mirek]

According to drivers and co-drivers in Ypres, the Skoda is clearly the faster R5. Then the DS3, then the 208. Didn't hear about the Fiesta but it must be "slower" than the 3 others. Maybe easier to drive. Sorry for the OT.

I know 100% that Škoda has reasonably more powerful engine than all other R5. They have been struggling with setups but it seems they are going in a good way. Morever to date there has been only one mechnical retirement from nineteen starts and that one was caused by a faulty battery. That is pretty awesome record for R5 car. Everything suggests that other manufacturers will face hard times and in this moment their biggest luck is that Škoda is very slow with delivering new cars (afaik due to difficulties with suppliers). Let's see what others can do with their jokers. I'm sure they don't sleep.

[Rallyper]

Tanak for sure is the man of Poland WRC round. Will be so nice to visit Finland for the 15 th time since 1999. Also looking forward to see what Paddon will do. He has grown a lot lately.

[EstWRC]

i dont know if you can watch this outside of estonia but this is the end of SS16 where Tänak said the F word about VW

http://sport.err.ee/v/autoralli/8844751a-77c5-498f-897d-84714501683b

[N.O.T]

i dont know if you can watch this outside of estonia but this is the end of SS16 where Tänak said the F word about VW

http://sport.err.ee/v/autoralli/8844751a-77c5-498f-897d-84714501683b

LOL... Go OTT !!!!

[drive]

and one more pic from THAT jump :)
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/11722279_10152928669842036_6390826557663774674_o.j pg

[marcosg]

Rober Kubica; the local boy....well, I'm a bit disappointed with you guys, nobody said nothing about his performance this weekend. After all guy finished the rally (what a success!!), didn't have any ''journey'' into the woods&lawns; he beat fair & square Sordo, Ostberg and almost Meeke.


wd to Robert! not only did he finish it without superrally, he posted very competitive times throughout the event, driven flatout by a lot of people

I think he is starting to realise it's not that easy to win in wrc... no matter how talented you are, it takes time... it took time to all of them...

[EstWRC]

couple of videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LofA31T5o9U&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LofA31T5o9U&feature=youtu.be

[AL14]

i dont know if you can watch this outside of estonia but this is the end of SS16 where Tänak said the F word about VW

http://sport.err.ee/v/autoralli/8844751a-77c5-498f-897d-84714501683b

Well said. It would have been perfect if would have answered to Colin "F**k the apologize too" :D :D

[MartijnS]

Latvala's off; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_X7VcEVpbA

[dimviii]

Tanak like,Latvalas jump
https://youtu.be/l4PvY3ymaPQ

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28J5RODotBM



Never heard such applause by fans after a car has jumped. Deserved it too ! :D

[litifeta]

Lots of folks still a bit niggly about Ogier. I guess it is just frustration at seeing a single person dominate a sport for so long. Schumacher, Loeb etc. It is a little frustrating for fans and does take the mystery out of it a bit. But credit where it is due. Having these very good people and very good teams makes others lift their game just a bit.

[KKSF]

KKSF HD video with big jumps and powerslides: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYJHoYSW2rc

[danon]

Someday...

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3835/18815892893_43c25c9d21_b.jpg

[Aquagen]

What you think about this incident?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=G6krReOBtl8#t=219

http://rajdpolski.pl/pliki/zawodnicy/2015/tablica/2_6_stewards_decision_no._5_rally_poland.pdf

[Ucci]

Please do not include the names of Ogier and Loeb with that of Scumacher... the first two were and are proper champions the later wasn't and in the end he got some life justice.

How can you be so harsh? How can you afford someone to be permanently disabled? How can you even think of something like that??

[wrc1600]

Lots of folks still a bit niggly about Ogier. I guess it is just frustration at seeing a single person dominate a sport for so long. Schumacher, Loeb etc. It is a little frustrating for fans and does take the mystery out of it a bit. But credit where it is due. Having these very good people and very good teams makes others lift their game just a bit.

I don't think it's domination factor, I loved Loeb era but Ogier annoys me, it's about personality. The difference is Loeb was unbeatable in all conditions and didn't complain about rules or road position all the time, he's a class driver/person. Ogier is arrogant and stresses that in every occasion, complains about rules all the time, eventhough very often that give him advantage, just huge ego.

[AL14]

How can you be so harsh? How can you afford someone to be permanently disabled? How can you even think of something like that??
I think he was not referring to his accident. That would be too much.

[Mirek]

What you think about this incident?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=G6krReOBtl8#t=219

http://rajdpolski.pl/pliki/zawodnicy/2015/tablica/2_6_stewards_decision_no._5_rally_poland.pdf

Kind of unfortunate accident in this case. I believe he really didn't realize he hit someone.

[dimviii]

Νeuville incar crash
https://youtu.be/YqXesYCa5Qo

[PLuto]

What you think about this incident?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=G6krReOBtl8#t=219

http://rajdpolski.pl/pliki/zawodnicy/2015/tablica/2_6_stewards_decision_no._5_rally_poland.pdf

What I think about this incident? When I have seen some movies and pictures from Poland, I am surprised that there was only one similar incident...

[Doon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxEtmmte33M

Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but how were so many people allowed to stand in such a dangerous place, and so close to the stage. I'm sure you'll know which spot I mean!

[MartijnS]

It's not that dangerous I think...straight road with trees besides it. Nobody is going to jump a few meters of the line there. Don't have a good view of how they are standing after the landing part though.

[sindroms]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxEtmmte33M

Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but how were so many people allowed to stand in such a dangerous place, and so close to the stage. I'm sure you'll know which spot I mean!

Strange approach from organizers I must admit - total closure of roads as tool to control spectators, but when you are in - do (stay) whatever you want to do.

[EstWRC]

Never heard such applause by fans after a car has jumped. Deserved it too ! :D

yeah, the crowd absolutely loving it.

two more angles of this jump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpX1OkfmN3I

[sindroms]

It's not that dangerous I think...straight road with trees besides it. Nobody is going to jump a few meters of the line there. Don't have a good view of how they are standing after the landing part though.

What if wrong notes? What if technical damage? What if... Would you allow your daughter to stand there? :) I am not.
Of course it's absolutely stunning when you are standing on the top of the jump and see cars flying away in distance of hand (last year Poland experience). But it in same time I didn't feel very comfortable because of "what if..."

[thuGG]

yeah, the crowd absolutely loving it.

two more angles of this jump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpX1OkfmN3I

I was at this spot, it was incredible (Tanak especially)! But I was seriously worried about people standing after landing zone.

There were not enough marshalls, and frankly at that spot, they didn't give a shit.

[Christos Kolperiadis]

I was at this spot, it was incredible (Tanak especially)! But I was seriously worried about people standing after landing zone.

There were not enough marshalls, and frankly at that spot, they didn't give a shit.

which SS is this?

[thuGG]

If I remember correctly (my friend was "the organizer" of our group) it was OS 16 - Swietajno.

[Doon]

It's not that dangerous I think...straight road with trees besides it. Nobody is going to jump a few meters of the line there. Don't have a good view of how they are standing after the landing part though.

At about 1:35 Abbring lands and it looks pretty close to disaster! For years we have been told in programmes, on tickets, by marshals etc, don't stand anywhere after a jump. On the approach the spectators are far too close as well.

Sorry, but if the FIA are serious about safety then they need to review videos from that spot, because if a car had gone off it would have been absolutely tragic. I like to stand in a thrilling place myself, but that just looks like there is no control whatsoever. Looks like an event from the '80s!

[janvanvurpa]

At about 1:35 Abbring lands and it looks pretty close to disaster! For years we have been told in programmes, on tickets, by marshals etc, don't stand anywhere after a jump. On the approach the spectators are far too close as well.

Sorry, but if the FIA are serious about safety then they need to review videos from that spot, because if a car had gone off it would have been absolutely tragic. I like to stand in a thrilling place myself, but that just looks like there is no control whatsoever. Looks like an event from the '80s!


The early/mid 80s:eek:

Is it a coincidence that all the places where speccies are all seemingly willing to die are all Catholic countries?

[tommeke_B]

Back from one of the most spectacular events I've seen so far, but also one of the worst organized. It's very difficult to get access to the stages, but once you are on them, nobody cares about what anyone is doing. Most marshalls are like 18-20 year old students who have no authority at all, one of them told me he had never seen a rally before...

I was at the jump that's discussed here. We did recce of the stage and thought that this would be completely mad, and it was... On the first run I arrived a bit late and it was almost impossible to get a good and safe spot. For the first cars I was somewhere before the landing, but so many people with phones, selfie-sticks and gopro cameras ruin your view/photo completely. Then moved to the complete end of the row behind all spectators and the marshalls so there was nobody in my way if I had to jump away. I left after Kubica because it was too crazy for me as some other people started standing behind me. It's a shame when you find a great spot but have to leave if you don't want to get killed... On the run back we saw the crash of Abbring, it's a real miracle that no spectators were hit. On the 2nd loop we returned and took a spot before the jump. Also the security behind it was better (not perfect, but better). What you get to see there is unimaginable (but only for a few drivers, that needs to be said too).

Security is a major problem not only on this place. Sometimes on some places it's extremely strict, on other place there's no safety at all. On shakedown a large group of spectators decided to ignore the forbidden areas after the 0-car had passed, marshalls were clueless.

With some good planning we got to see relatively calm places which were always very impressive! For somebody who loves fast corners this is the best event you can imagine. It's quite similar to Finland but much more open and with less crests, so there are better/longer views. When you do recce on these stages it's very hard to imagine how the approach will be, because it's almost straight when you drive it at normal/slow speed with a normal car. Seeing WRC drivers come towards a corner at (almost) top speed, then quickly touch the brakes and pull the steering wheel in order to put the car in position (completely sideways), already something like 40 or more meters before a long corner... It's crazy. It's unbelievable how drivers can go this much on the limit on new stages after only 2x recce, without crashing...

[tommeke_B]

Few photos, more will follow later.

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t31.0-8/11713914_1102568703088348_4563910158778510217_o.jp g

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https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/11224901_1101144346564117_507367979854473198_o.jpg

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/t31.0-8/11699077_1101144113230807_36098318240559624_o.jpg

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/t31.0-8/10365552_1102568969754988_9007275625521330750_o.jp g

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJP1wGwUEAAl4TB.jpg

[EstWRC]

Jaanus Ree photos http://jree.ee/gallery/rally-poland/

[Rally Power]

Sorry for the off topic: the censorship activity in the forum has began today or has been around and I've didn't notice before??? :-)

[SubaruNorway]

The organizers could have made it easier for the spectators standing further from the road by cutting down some of the very tall grass lining the stages, not sure if i would do this rally myself because i would have to take too much risk finding good video spots. They are very good at this in Finland.

[danon]

Another point of view...

http://s5.postimg.org/9rj1njy2v/TNp.jpg

[AL14]

Another point of view...

http://s5.postimg.org/9rj1njy2v/TNp.jpg

Hahahaha made my day.