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dimviii

13th June 2015, 16:28

Karl Kruuda ‏@KarlKruuda
That's it for us... engine failed before SS16. Gutted, but it only makes us stronger

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHYxe3mUEAAltm_.jpg

Fast Eddie WRC

13th June 2015, 17:07

Video SS 9 - 15 https://youtu.be/QhKz1pI7gJ4

dimviii

13th June 2015, 17:12

Video SS 9 - 15 https://youtu.be/QhKz1pI7gJ4

nice spot at ,35
i d like to see all top cars there.

Fast Eddie WRC

13th June 2015, 17:22

Ogier 13:38.9 'I didn't push to my maximum, I saved the tyres, maybe a little too much.'

Still fastest !

Fast Eddie WRC

13th June 2015, 17:23

Ah nooo, Tanak stopped, was stuck in 6th ... :(

Rallyper

13th June 2015, 17:27

Is this rallying? When everyone hits rocks on the road that big they smash their suspension and more?
The answer is no.

Fast Eddie WRC

13th June 2015, 17:27

Paddon now with a problem ? :(

EstWRC

13th June 2015, 17:28

Paddon and Tänak :(

Fast Eddie WRC

13th June 2015, 17:29

Is this rallying? When everyone hits rocks on the road that big they smash their suspension and more?

Everyone but Ogier ...

olavr

13th June 2015, 17:30

Anyone know what tires they have on second loop ?

EstWRC

13th June 2015, 17:31

who cares, the race is over...

nafpaktos

13th June 2015, 17:33

I dont find in live text what happen to paddon

Fast Eddie WRC

13th June 2015, 17:33

Spin for Paddon ... then car stalled.. :(

Fast Eddie WRC

13th June 2015, 17:35

SS17
1Ogier
2Ostberg+5.9
3Meeke+5.9
4Evans+9.4
5Neuville+10.7
6Latvala+11.2
7Paddon+21.6

O/A: 1. Ogier, 2. Paddon +12.6s, 3. Østberg +2'27.6, 4. Latvala +2'40.2, 5. Neuville +3'46.7

nafpaktos

13th June 2015, 17:36

Just 12,6 seconds behind in the overall from ogier

JAM

13th June 2015, 17:36

Ok, Sardinia rally is finished.

nafpaktos

13th June 2015, 17:38

I hope a puncture to ogier

Fast Eddie WRC

13th June 2015, 17:39

Everyone had issue with rocks after Ogier... not complaining about road-sweeping now... :rolleyes:

N.O.T

13th June 2015, 17:39

I hope a puncture to ogier

you should not.

RAS007

13th June 2015, 17:40

Another WRC round, another yawn.

N.O.T

13th June 2015, 17:41

I hope Paddon keeps his place in the podium, the win of Ogier was inevitable, it would be nice to see them fight for a few more stages but i doubt the result would be different in the end.

nafpaktos

13th June 2015, 17:41

@Not I dont have a lot of things to do this weekend so if the rally finishes so early what should i do?

AP-Racing

13th June 2015, 17:42

WRC without Loeb - very very boooooring

N.O.T

13th June 2015, 17:42

@Not I dont have a lot of things to do this weekend so if the rally finishes so early what should i do?

watch Lemans today, MotoGP tomorrow and BTCC.

N.O.T

13th June 2015, 17:43

WRC without Loeb - very very boooooring

It was boring with him in as well for the majority of the rallies...

RAS007

13th June 2015, 17:44

WRC without Loeb - very very boooooring

Surely you are joking? Loeb presided over the most boring era in the sport. It's not much different now with Ogier.

dimviii

13th June 2015, 17:47

Protasov just 21 sec from Ucci.
Ucci was out of road trying to avoid a big rock.

nafpaktos

13th June 2015, 17:49

This rally seems to be harder than our rally was

Rallyper

13th June 2015, 17:53

Surely you are joking? Loeb presided over the most boring era in the sport. It's not much different now with Ogier.

If you have two Loebs it´s different (=read Ogier+Loeb)

AP-Racing

13th June 2015, 17:56

Kubi off - gearbox

N.O.T

13th June 2015, 17:56

Loeb cannot keep up with Ogier anymore for a whole season.... if you turn back time and bring Loeb in his early 30s then we would have a nice battle but Loeb would win 7 out of 10 times. so it would be boring again.

Fast Eddie WRC

13th June 2015, 17:57

So many mistakes by the others making it easier for Ogier than it should be...

AP-Racing

13th June 2015, 17:57

If you have two Loebs it´s different (=read Ogier+Loeb)

Yeap. And Loeb can make some mistakes at right time, to revive intrigue

dimviii

13th June 2015, 18:07

Jari-Matti Latvala ‏@JariMattiWRC
Looks like the damper has been damaged in the previous stage.. Loosing already 20s on the 1st split point of SS18… :

AP-Racing

13th June 2015, 18:19

Ucci stopped :(

Juha_Koo

13th June 2015, 18:30

Another WRC round, another yawn.

Blaah blaah blaah...

I can't even find the words for idiots like you... It was all interesting fun and games 'till Paddon made a mistake, but that was not worth a post?! As soon as French Sebastien is in the lead it becomes boring s*it? Yeah right!

Take a look at this guy's posting history, a real HC fan truly...! LOL!

dimviii

13th June 2015, 18:33

Paddon reportedly very emotional at stage end, team say he has a gearbox issue #WRC #iRally #RallyItalia

N.O.T

13th June 2015, 18:36

Blaah blaah blaah...

I can't even find the words for idiots like you... It was all interesting fun and games 'till Paddon made a mistake, but that was not worth a post?! As soon as French Sebastien is in the lead it becomes boring s*it? Yeah right!

Take a look at this guy's posting history, a real HC fan truly...! LOL!

do not give him a hard time... he is already Scottish... how much more can a man take...

Guys it is simple if you do not like the WRC you can take a break for a few years...

dimviii

13th June 2015, 18:37

Paddon with almost 2 minutes gap from Ostberg.Hope he will be able to keep 2nd position with gearbox issues at next long one stage.He deserves it.

dimviii

13th June 2015, 18:38

Ucci finished stage with not good time.
Lost the lead from Protasov.

Mirek

13th June 2015, 18:47

Ucci finished stage with not good time.
Lost the lead from Protasov.

RRC cars seem to be faster than R5 again as I don't believe that Protasov is better driver than Andreucci (nothing against Protasov).

EDIT: Ucci stopped to close boot door. Quite stupid mistake.

dimviii

13th June 2015, 18:48

(48 - Andreucci Paolo / Andreussi Anna): I had to stopped early in the stage because the tailgate came open. My co-driver jumped out and closed it.

EstWRC

13th June 2015, 18:50

Paddon https://twitter.com/OfficialWRC/status/609765055811440640 :(

Eli

13th June 2015, 19:05

i'm gutted for Paddon, even if he wouldn't have won this rally he doesn't desirve this issue..

nafpaktos

13th June 2015, 19:10

When he will calm down he will realise that he should not be sad for this rally but really happy,since he has showed he has great potential for the future.

Fast Eddie WRC

13th June 2015, 19:16

Ironic Paddon has a gearbox problem when the new paddle-shift has helped his performance here.. :(

denkimi

13th June 2015, 19:24

no, i'dont. i just expect a few more crashes/technical problems.

i estimate that 5 or less factory drivers will make it to the finish without any major problems.
now only ogier has not suffered any major problems. he has the luck of a true champion.

AP-Racing

13th June 2015, 19:26

now only ogier has not suffered any major problems. he has the luck of a true champion.

Ogier have one big problem....and it's problem called - Loeb.

Mirek

13th June 2015, 19:27

now only ogier has not suffered any major problems. he has the luck of a true champion.

I don't believe it's all about luck.

Eli

13th June 2015, 19:31

ostberg losing time towards the end just like in the first pass of Monte-Lerno

AP-Racing

13th June 2015, 19:38

Ostberg puncture

dimviii

13th June 2015, 19:40

Ostberg puncture

thats good for Paddon,their gap will remain same +-

dimviii

13th June 2015, 19:43

Head slumped, tears in his eyes, all @HaydenPaddon could say at the end of SS18 was........"it's broken" #WRC

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHZSEwrWEAEvIyF.jpg

dimviii

13th June 2015, 19:47

thats good for Paddon,their gap will remain same +-

so 1 min 12 sec gap from Mads

Lundefaret

13th June 2015, 19:53

It has been a fantastic showing from Paddon.

1) Showing that its possible to drive fast, even if You don't have 130 WRC starts under Your belt.

2) Showing that its possible to drive fast even if You are not in a VW.

Of course he has had an advantage because of the starting position, but he have also had disadvantages (experience, car etc), and he has made a truly brilliant rally.

Will he now go on to be a front contender for every rally? Not yet I think. He seems to be performing well when there is a certain ratio between inputs pr km (number of steering, pedal and gear inputs pr stage km.)
To high a ratio and he will struggle, and this is logical, because this is when You need experience and pace notes etc the most.

But he is a brilliant talent, and I actually have high hopes for him on tarmac, his early testing on tarmac was very impressive.

The goal now must be to draw the correct conclusions from this showing. If he gets to high shoulders, to much preassure in the next events, and try to go fast, he will go slow with high risk. This is what happened with Neuville, partially with Mikkelsen, and others, so this is the potential pit fall to look out for.
But he should be proud, great driving, and definitely The Man Of The Rally (behind Ogier)!

nafpaktos

13th June 2015, 19:58

Today paddon didnt use nose end first enough and that's the results.

N.O.T

13th June 2015, 19:59

still i think Mr.Keiser would be more nose end first today... even without the gearbox problems that made the hyundai not a very nose end first car.

Rallyper

13th June 2015, 19:59

Is Sardinia a slow rally? To me I think it is. Also explains why less experienced drivers can be up the front. A fast rally for sure sift out the boys from men.

N.O.T

13th June 2015, 20:01

Is Sardinia a slow rally? To me I think it is. Also explains why less experienced drivers can be up the front. A fast rally for sure sift out the boys from men.

indeed, just one stage above 100km/hr average speed.

dimviii

13th June 2015, 20:01

Ucci about 12 sec faster from Protasov at final split.

Mirek

13th June 2015, 20:03

Protasov?

EDIT: He is fine. The time was just missing...

nafpaktos

13th June 2015, 20:04

Is Sardinia a slow rally? To me I think it is. Also explains why less experienced drivers can be up the front. A fast rally for sure sift out the boys from men.
Apart from paddon who less experienced was on the front?

dimviii

13th June 2015, 20:05

Ucci about 12 sec faster from Protasov at final split.

Ucci 7 sec behind Protasov overall

AP-Racing

13th June 2015, 20:10

Al Arabi - crazy......32 sec on SS18 and 50!!! sec on SS19

Mirek

13th June 2015, 20:13

Al Arabi - crazy......32 sec on SS18 and 50!!! sec on SS19

To whom? Lappi has slightly faster splits now by the way.

dimviii

13th June 2015, 20:15

Al Arabi - crazy......32 sec on SS18 and 50!!! sec on SS19

seems that Protasov and Ucci want to finish and they are not pushing hard.Al Kuwari 18 sec faster from Ucci,Kopecky same.

AP-Racing

13th June 2015, 20:16

To whom? Lappi has slightly faster splits now by the way.

to Protasov

Mirek

13th June 2015, 20:17

seems that Protasov and Ucci want to finish and they are not pushing hard.Al Kuwari 18 sec faster from Ucci,Kopecky same.

Pity of that stupid penalty for Kopecký. It could be three-way battle and that would be more interesting.

AP-Racing

13th June 2015, 20:17

seems that Protasov and Ucci want to finish and they are not pushing hard.Al Kuwari 18 sec faster from Ucci,Kopecky same.

Yes, but Nasser fastest on every stage today

13th June 2015, 20:18

Al Arabi - crazy......32 sec on SS18 and 50!!! sec on SS19

From WRC2 Lappi, Andreucci and Kopecky have set similarly competitive times during the rally.

Juha_Koo

13th June 2015, 20:21

Is Sardinia a slow rally? To me I think it is. Also explains why less experienced drivers can be up the front. A fast rally for sure sift out the boys from men.

Looking at Paddon's onboards from Day1 from WRC+, there's nothing slow in Sardinia... Things happen incredibly fast!

still i think Mr.Keiser would be more nose end first today... even without the gearbox problems that made the hyundai not a very nose end first car.

LOL, "Mr. Keiser" :D

13th June 2015, 20:22

Yes, but Nasser fastest on every stage today

Check again..

Mirek

13th June 2015, 20:23

From WRC2 Lappi, Andreucci and Kopecky have set similarly competitive times during the rally.

You forgot Protasov (for me a nice surprise) :)

dimviii

13th June 2015, 20:27

You forgot Protasov (for me a nice surprise) :)

Protasov at last rallies have progress in terms of speed.

dimviii

13th June 2015, 20:28

borl day 2
https://youtu.be/ZW-7xyCviog

Mirek

13th June 2015, 20:30

Check again..

Lappi now 5th overall on Monte Lerno :p

WRC2 stage wins so far...

Lappi 5
Nasser 5
Andreucci 4
Protasov 2
Kopecký 1
Lefebvre 1
Camilli 1

Mirek

13th June 2015, 20:32

Protasov at last rallies have progress in terms of speed.

Yes, I know but I remember his first steps abroad. He was driving some our national rallies with Evo IX and nobody would ever guess he would become so fast ;)

stefanvv

13th June 2015, 20:46

There is nothing bad Paddon should feel about after today. Car failure happens and it is not driver's fault, every driver wants to win, but perhaps it's not his time yet and may be for the better.

bluuford

13th June 2015, 21:07

Everybody are in Service but Paddon is still quite far away. Can he make it in time?

Eli

13th June 2015, 21:11

was there a press conference already?

N.O.T

13th June 2015, 21:19

was there a press conference already?

yes there was, very exciting press conference, one of the best conferences of the last 3 years at least... pity you missed it, but it was so good they plan to replay it in a few hours

Eli

13th June 2015, 21:24

yes there was, very exciting press conference, one of the best conferences of the last 3 years at least... pity you missed it, but it was so good they plan to replay it in a few hours

was it so bad that you had to answer with sarcasm, you could just say yes.

bluuford

13th June 2015, 21:26

Paddon arrived to service at 21:30

Lundefaret

13th June 2015, 21:38

Is Sardinia a slow rally? To me I think it is. Also explains why less experienced drivers can be up the front. A fast rally for sure sift out the boys from men.

What is a slow rally?
What is a fast rally?
Is the deciding factor the average stage speed?

In my opinion another factor is more important, and that is the frequency of inputs pr minute.
As the inputs pr minute increase, the stress factor rises, and You have to act quicker, which again puts more demand on Your abilities.
Its all about the computing power of the individual driver.

A rally can be slow, (Sardinia last year) but have a high ratio of inputs pr minute.
A rally can be fast (Rally Finland) but have a lower ratio of inputs pr minute.

It can also be measured in different ways, but the important factor is how many parameters pr minute the driver has to react to.

If You take Rally Finland, it has a completely different ratio now, than what it had 10 years ago, and a very different ratio to what it had 20 years ago. This is because of technical development.

The WRC have some of the most brilliant engineers on the planet, and every year they do a tremendous job reducing the amount of inputs the driver has to react to.

In Finland in 1986, with a group B rally car, You had tremendous power, but - compared to today - awful suspension, differentials, aerodynamics and tires. This meant that Rally Finland was a high frequency rally, and a "fast" rally. You had to not only manage the turns, but also the elevation, and the jumps.

With hugely better suspension, better tires, better aerodynamics, and a lower amount of power, You can now be flat a lot of places that would be absolutely unthinkable in earlier years. (This was exemplified last year, which was the first year ever the WRC drivers could be flat over the big jumps at Ruuhimäki.)
The technical development that has taken place, that have in effect "flattened" the Finnish stages.

(But in Finland You have to be able to handle the physical and mental stress of high speed.)

And, on the other hand You have "slow" rallies, that really are fast/high frequency and high input. Because they have a lot of turns pr km, the inputs increase and if you combine this with other factors like low grip (which can work both ways), rocks and different hurdles, then You have a rally that requires more computing power.

This frequency can off course change in a single stage, and from stage to stage in a single event.

To be able to stay in Your comfort zone as the frequency rises, You have to have a high level of automatization of reactions to input, so that You have the surplus computing power to be able to react to not scheduled inputs, like rocks in the road, different grip levels, etc. You also reduce the needed mental computing power needed to keep the car on the road, if You have a good relation between speed and risk. (Driving technique/style).

If You should give drivers scores You could combine the ability to handle high frequencies, the ratio between risk and speed in their driving style, and their pace notes.

N.O.T

13th June 2015, 21:45

Lund is right... speed doesn't matter if you are nose end first enough you conquer everything.

nafpaktos

13th June 2015, 21:50

Thats why prokop won the first stage,i was wondering why.

nafpaktos

13th June 2015, 21:55

stefanvv

13th June 2015, 21:57

What is a slow rally?
What is a fast rally?
Is the deciding factor the average stage speed?

In my opinion another factor is more important, and that is the frequency of inputs pr minute.
As the inputs pr minute increase, the stress factor rises, and You have to act quicker, which again puts more demand on Your abilities.
Its all about the computing power of the individual driver.

A rally can be slow, (Sardinia last year) but have a high ratio of inputs pr minute.
A rally can be fast (Rally Finland) but have a lower ratio of inputs pr minute.

It can also be measured in different ways, but the important factor is how many parameters pr minute the driver has to react to.

If You take Rally Finland, it has a completely different ratio now, than what it had 10 years ago, and a very different ratio to what it had 20 years ago. This is because of technical development.

The WRC have some of the most brilliant engineers on the planet, and every year they do a tremendous job reducing the amount of inputs the driver has to react to.

In Finland in 1986, with a group B rally car, You had tremendous power, but - compared to today - awful suspension, differentials, aerodynamics and tires. This meant that Rally Finland was a high frequency rally, and a "fast" rally. You had to not only manage the turns, but also the elevation, and the jumps.

With hugely better suspension, better tires, better aerodynamics, and a lower amount of power, You can now be flat a lot of places that would be absolutely unthinkable in earlier years. (This was exemplified last year, which was the first year ever the WRC drivers could be flat over the big jumps at Ruuhimäki.)
The technical development that has taken place, that have in effect "flattened" the Finnish stages.

(But in Finland You have to be able to handle the physical and mental stress of high speed.)

And, on the other hand You have "slow" rallies, that really are fast/high frequency and high input. Because they have a lot of turns pr km, the inputs increase and if you combine this with other factors like low grip (which can work both ways), rocks and different hurdles, then You have a rally that requires more computing power.

This frequency can off course change in a single stage, and from stage to stage in a single event.

To be able to stay in Your comfort zone as the frequency rises, You have to have a high level of automatization of reactions to input, so that You have the surplus computing power to be able to react to not scheduled inputs, like rocks in the road, different grip levels, etc. You also reduce the needed mental computing power needed to keep the car on the road, if You have a good relation between speed and risk. (Driving technique/style).

If You should give drivers scores You could combine the ability to handle high frequencies, the ratio between risk and speed in their driving style, and their pace notes.

That's been interesting, how fast the driver is, and how fast the car is. Monte is great example of high level of inputs also, and Rohrl has great success there, while not great in Finland for some reasons, how to analyse that? I guess it comes down to basic "instincts".

Fast Eddie WRC

13th June 2015, 22:21

Video incl. Paddon spin :

https://youtu.be/UMJB1dE3FCA

Jumps & max attack:

https://youtu.be/QbJez3avWfo

nafpaktos

13th June 2015, 22:32

Off topic
Live streaming video link in english for le mans?

Barreis

13th June 2015, 22:36

Off topic
Live streaming video link in english for le mans?

http://www.vipleague.me/motorsports/308903/1/race-:-24-hours-of-le-mans-2015-|-le-mans-24-hours-live-stream-online.html

Fast Eddie WRC

13th June 2015, 22:41

Paddon arriving back at Service: https://twitter.com/HyundaiWRC/status/609818539738963969

thetsakvr46

13th June 2015, 22:52

Off topic
Live streaming video link in english for le mans?

Try this... HD

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/uk18611

Rallyper

13th June 2015, 23:15

What is a slow rally?
What is a fast rally?
Is the deciding factor the average stage speed?

In my opinion another factor is more important, and that is the frequency of inputs pr minute.
As the inputs pr minute increase, the stress factor rises, and You have to act quicker, which again puts more demand on Your abilities.
Its all about the computing power of the individual driver.

A rally can be slow, (Sardinia last year) but have a high ratio of inputs pr minute.
A rally can be fast (Rally Finland) but have a lower ratio of inputs pr minute.

It can also be measured in different ways, but the important factor is how many parameters pr minute the driver has to react to.

If You take Rally Finland, it has a completely different ratio now, than what it had 10 years ago, and a very different ratio to what it had 20 years ago. This is because of technical development.

The WRC have some of the most brilliant engineers on the planet, and every year they do a tremendous job reducing the amount of inputs the driver has to react to.

In Finland in 1986, with a group B rally car, You had tremendous power, but - compared to today - awful suspension, differentials, aerodynamics and tires. This meant that Rally Finland was a high frequency rally, and a "fast" rally. You had to not only manage the turns, but also the elevation, and the jumps.

With hugely better suspension, better tires, better aerodynamics, and a lower amount of power, You can now be flat a lot of places that would be absolutely unthinkable in earlier years. (This was exemplified last year, which was the first year ever the WRC drivers could be flat over the big jumps at Ruuhimäki.)
The technical development that has taken place, that have in effect "flattened" the Finnish stages.

(But in Finland You have to be able to handle the physical and mental stress of high speed.)

And, on the other hand You have "slow" rallies, that really are fast/high frequency and high input. Because they have a lot of turns pr km, the inputs increase and if you combine this with other factors like low grip (which can work both ways), rocks and different hurdles, then You have a rally that requires more computing power.

This frequency can off course change in a single stage, and from stage to stage in a single event.

To be able to stay in Your comfort zone as the frequency rises, You have to have a high level of automatization of reactions to input, so that You have the surplus computing power to be able to react to not scheduled inputs, like rocks in the road, different grip levels, etc. You also reduce the needed mental computing power needed to keep the car on the road, if You have a good relation between speed and risk. (Driving technique/style).

If You should give drivers scores You could combine the ability to handle high frequencies, the ratio between risk and speed in their driving style, and their pace notes.

And...? "(But in Finland You have to be able to handle the physical and mental stress of high speed.)" That´s what I mean. But you´re probaly right in everything. Still I have point because a slower rally makes your mind more spaceful for all the other inputs if - and if - they increase. And boys without balls can easily have the same speed in slow corners as their masters.

Ucci

14th June 2015, 00:26

For me THE driver of the rally,RESPECT!i wonder if he uses nose end first technique???????

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Agree...must be already fisically demanding for 50 years old man to cope with this high temperatures, keep the contrencation & motivation....and still fight with drivers half younger.....

N.O.T

14th June 2015, 00:47

Unfortunatelly Uccis performance tells more about the level of competitors in WRC2 than himself.

Mekola

14th June 2015, 02:27

Then Paddon again had a problem... Oh my.

Mirek

14th June 2015, 08:42

From Prokop: "The oil pump just cracked like a nut." The engine was unfortunatelly damaged and he couldn't restart today.

EstWRC

14th June 2015, 08:44

Oh my, still in a very bad mood because of Paddon's and Tänak's problems yesterday:(, the stars for me this rally.

Mirek

14th June 2015, 08:48

Ostberg looses a minute now...

EstWRC

14th June 2015, 08:50

lol Neuville now third, where was he yesterday morning, 8th or something?

Mirek

14th June 2015, 08:53

What an irony...

SUN 08:48 - SS20: NEUVILLE
"There's no way to catch Mads ahead. I'm going to use the stages today to learn more for future rallies."

SUN 08:55 - SS20: OSTBERG LOSES THIRD!
Just as Neuville was writing off his chances, Ostberg loses a minute! "A lot happened at the same time," he says. "I lost an earplug, and was trying to put it back in when I went wide in a corner and off the road. The damage was not so bad but I lost the brakes - that's the problem." He slips to fourth, 23.2sec behind Neuville.

Mirek

14th June 2015, 08:55

Andreucci massively faster than Protasov and back in the lead of WRC2.

Mirek

14th June 2015, 09:01

Al Rahji stopped?

EDIT: Lappi finished stage 0,74 s/km behind Paddon :D ... anyway this is the rally where Ogier with Fabia S2000 was able to challenge WRC drivers some years a go so why not.

EDIT2: Andreucci seems to be in serious problems. The radiator leaks (like so many times before with the 208 T16).

dodge33cymru

14th June 2015, 09:19

Periscope has a massive potential for rallying, let me know if you find any good ones:

https://www.periscope.tv/w/aE0Y_DQ4ODcwMjh8MjI5Nzc2NTJw8ziEnbsXhRtOo74t1DHGPH K2bCPDmtVF7tmMn4k55A==

EstWRC

14th June 2015, 09:23

MartijnS

14th June 2015, 09:24

We're at the first/third stage of today. So rough again, real car killer!

Ralph-Mario

14th June 2015, 09:25

Live Stream? Thx..

AP-Racing

14th June 2015, 09:52

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_06_2015/post-533-0-60272400-1434268092.jpg

EstWRC

14th June 2015, 09:55

Nice! Tänak spoiling VW's 1-2-3 in stage 21.

Mirek

14th June 2015, 09:57

Protasov back in the lead.

Looks like there is some problem for Kopecký? Very slow first split...

14th June 2015, 10:09

Protasov back in the lead.

Looks like there is some problem for Kopecký? Very slow first split...

Just taking it steady i would have thought, no point to push.

Fast Eddie WRC

14th June 2015, 10:51

Nice to see Paddon win the first stage of the day, showing his pace previously was no fluke... he could cruise like some others but pushed and won.

Really hope he holds 2nd now with no problems.

"We wanted to send a message to Mads that there was no chance to catch us. I was a bit hesitant but it was okay. Now because of his problem we have a good gap [1m50s] so we'll take it really easy in the next two."

AP-Racing

14th June 2015, 11:05

Kruuda retire

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHcxZx4WEAEN24N.jpg

AL14

14th June 2015, 11:11

Just 0.5 seconds between Ucci and Protasov before the Power Stage!

Mirek

14th June 2015, 11:12

0,5 seconds between Protasov and Andreucci for the power stage!

dodge33cymru

14th June 2015, 11:21

0,5 seconds between Protasov and Andreucci for the power stage!
Reckon they'll show them on the coverage? Will they ****........

sete

14th June 2015, 11:32

Protasov retired before Power stage for differential

Fast Eddie WRC

14th June 2015, 11:47

Photo & Driver of the Rally...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHc0ssoWEAAQPeM.jpg:large

Mirek

14th June 2015, 11:48

Protasov retired before Power stage for differential

Shit

sete

14th June 2015, 11:49

If Andreucci have still water leaking Kopecký can win WRC-2 right?

sete

14th June 2015, 11:54

Maybe its a fault.Bertelli have differential problém,so probably Protasov is OK.

Mirek

14th June 2015, 11:56

If Andreucci have still water leaking Kopecký can win WRC-2 right?

He did two stages after the repair which means it holds somehow. Anyway I hope it doesn't happen (even though I wish all the best for Jan and Pavel). It's bad enough to loose one leader in the very end like this, not two.

dimviii

14th June 2015, 11:56

Based on #WRCplus tracking map
Paddon's top speed in the i20 was 184kph compared to Ogiers top speed of 187kph in the polo

Mirek

14th June 2015, 11:57

Maybe its a fault.Bertelli have differential problém,so probably Protasov is OK.

I can see that info only on twitter of Anton Pustovalov (Russian driver). I don't listen the radio though. Waiting for something official.

Mirek

14th June 2015, 11:59

Based on #WRCplus tracking map
Paddon's top speed in the i20 was 184kph compared to Ogiers top speed of 187kph in the polo

The GPS data are often missleading as I learned from our championship. The frequency of collecting information is not high enough for precise top speed data (unless it's a kilometer long straight which obviously isn't the case here).

sete

14th June 2015, 11:59

true,but its rally,anything could happen anytime.

dimviii

14th June 2015, 12:05

From Prokop: "The oil pump just cracked like a nut." The engine was unfortunatelly damaged and he couldn't restart today.

this is the new engine build inside Msport?

Mirek

14th June 2015, 12:14

Yes

Fast Eddie WRC

14th June 2015, 12:17

Great power stage and onboards.. if only the commentator would shut up !! :(

Mirek

14th June 2015, 12:36

It looks like Protasov is really out :(

... and Ostberg managed to finish ahead of Latvala.

Maui J.

14th June 2015, 12:45

Awesome result for Hayden & John. Fast & smart. A real career-changing/career-keeping drive.
So good to finally see a Kiwi on the podium of a WRC event (outside of RallyNZ), after following WRC for almost 40 years.
The only way is up!

focus206

14th June 2015, 12:48

Mirek

14th June 2015, 12:50

Protasov wins over Andreucci!

bluuford

14th June 2015, 12:52

It looks like Protasov is really out :(

... and Ostberg managed to finish ahead of Latvala.

So, why I can see Protasovs splits?

JAM

14th June 2015, 12:53

I hope that this time Ogier say that didn't had problems because he was the first on the road and didn't find the same rocks that broke the other cars.

AL14

14th June 2015, 12:56

Hat off to Paddon. Really. What a nice suprise. Let's see if it will be the start of something or just a one off.

By the way, did anyone noticed that Ogier did not make any single mistake from the beginning of the championship? That's impressive.

EDIT: He spun in Sweden, but impressive driving anyway. He seems an even better driver than last year.

Mirek

14th June 2015, 12:57

So, why I can see Protasovs splits?

There was a lot of mess about him. He was on splits shown as first and than he was moved with every car down so it looked like he only hangs there. Anyway I'm glad it was wrong info and the battle was decided on stage.

stefanvv

14th June 2015, 12:58

I still need to understand if he really believes what he says or just moans just for the sake of moaning.

What moaning?!? Congrats to Ogier & Paddon.

bluuford

14th June 2015, 12:59

Commentator saying.. Ogier two days first on the road... Nice homework :-)

Anyway.. very nice perfomance by Paddon, Tänak and Ogier.. very bad perormance by Mikkelsen, Neuville, Ostberg and Latvala. I was looking Mikkelsen powerstage live and he had basically more or less moment on every 10th corner. It seems that it was pretty difficult to be faster on poerstage beeing first on the road;-)

kirungi okwogera

14th June 2015, 13:01

Funny post-stage interview from Protasov not knowing if he's won or not. Such a close finish, a good rally overall really - nice battle in both WRC and WRC2. Ogier wasn't moaning too much about cleaning and was pretty gracious about Paddon. Makes you wonder "what if" though - am I right thinking Ogier is the only WRC car that didn't lose minutes for one problem or another?

stefanvv

14th June 2015, 13:05

Commentator saying.. Ogier two days first on the road... Nice homework :-)

haha, perhaps Ogier has something to do with such impression:)

Mirek

14th June 2015, 13:09

Something funny :)

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/21007_10152966702045678_7788352665384481663_n.jpg? oh=dd16c6f2dc29a7abd4d322e287a8fef8&oe=55F95544

nafpaktos

14th June 2015, 13:11

By the way, did anyone noticed that Ogier did not make any single mistake from the beginning of the championship? That's impressive.

EDIT: He spun in Sweden, but impressive driving anyway. He seems an even better driver than last year.
with that kind of rivals you dont have the right to do mistakes,same for loeb.

JAM

14th June 2015, 13:15

Ogier was on of the few drivers that don't have to avoid rocks because was one of the first cars on the road. Did you notice hoew many drivers had offs, problems and punctures because of the rocks?

In fact, start in the front was an advantage on the Sardinian roads.

dimviii

14th June 2015, 13:16

Congratulations to Ogier, one of the few without problems this weekend. Looks like the "miracle" happened, but is anyone really surprised or didn't expect this? I still need to understand if he really believes what he says or just moans just for the sake of moaning.

he just moans in case he loose.If he wins he won because he is best(right) and he can win even with cleaning the road.
if he looses,he lost because he was handiccaped from the cleaning.Its a win win situation,whatever the result.
Before the power stage he said that he will be ok with 1 or 2 points at power stage.
We have seen that at power stages he is unbeatable,for many reasons.Usually he is with fresh tyres due to big difference from 2nd position at last day,that allows him to take care at his tyres.
So you are the best/faster you have fresh tyres,but you expect 1 or 2 points from power stage?Really?
his fear is to dont loose.he wants to have ready the excuse.

Anyway congrats to him for a weel deserved win and a faultless rally.
As we saw starting 1st at this rally was for his favour.
Congrats to Paddon,for an astonishing drive all weekend.No mistakes,steady,and fast.
Wish he continue like that.
Neuville has to do something,very average lately.
Hyundai has to fix reliability.All cars have problems at all rallies so far.
Latvala same as always,he is capable for the best and the worst.
Nice fight at wrc2,well deserved win for Protasov,
strange that the Italian 208 coped 3 days at this rough rally without major problems.
About skoda seems the speed is here,pitty Lappi did his mistake.He could have won easily.
Bring on the next one.

dimviii

14th June 2015, 13:23

1 VW 179
2 @Citroen 115
3 Hyundai 113
4 M-Sport 99
5 Jipocar 34

1 Ogier 133
2 @MadsOstberg 67
3 Mikkelsen 64
4 Latvala 56
5 Evans 53
6 Neuville 50
7 @krismeeke 47
12 @khalidbinfaisal 9

Mirek

14th June 2015, 13:25

About skoda seems the speed is here,pitty Lappi did his mistake.He could have won easily.

What is also important is that both cars had no technical problems on such a rough and long rally (I'm not sure if Kremer's yesterday's problems were caused by mechanical isues or by some driving mistake). That has been very uncommon with R5. The "Safari-style" setup obviously worked.

AL14

14th June 2015, 13:27

with that kind of rivals you dont have the right to do mistakes,same for loeb.

I think, instead, that are not his rivals to be at a low level but him (and Loeb before him) to be an exception.
Before the two sebastien everyone had problems, crashed and so on. There are world champions before them that did not crash less than Latvala, or Mikkelsen. Rally will become "normal" after he will retire.
And I wouldn't say being first here was an advantage, I'm convinced that if Ogier was not first on the road he would have came out of it with the same result, maybe even better.

Mirek

14th June 2015, 13:32

Before the two sebastien everyone had problems, crashed and so on. There are world champions before them that did not crash less than Latvala, or Mikkelsen.

+1

And I wouldn't say being first here was an advantage, I'm convinced that if Ogier was not first on the road he would have came out of it with the same result, maybe even better.

+1

What is interesting for me is that unlike Loeb Ogier doesn't look like driving safe. Loeb was very precise, clean and smooth and it was clear why he rarely makes mistakes but Ogier is not like him. He drives more flamboyant, more spectacular way but even with that he rarely makes mistakes (still naturally more than Loeb).

focus206

14th June 2015, 13:33

What moaning?!?

Didn't you read his interview before the rally? And before Portugal? And before the previous (and next) gravel rallies? When he keeps complaining every time that he needs a "miracle" to win and how rules are unfair?

MartijnS

14th June 2015, 14:00

So, good rally for us! 11 stages, some long days, but nice overall :)
Will put some more text in later. Few shots over the weekend;

https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1601075_849546251800012_5616954156319953446_n.jpg? oh=442943a22a58c79c5a33cd446c66bfd6&oe=55F722C1

https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11407243_849544475133523_2208639503677454970_n.jpg ?oh=3e7bc3c8d3d71225d83e6e706cdd80d3&oe=55EA2566

https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/18905_849347365153234_5149889581448226127_n.jpg?oh =ec94cf809f43fff42f87974fb1e5d814&oe=562F1B3D

https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11403371_849347431819894_3450004339316415247_n.jpg ?oh=e0b155286d644af54f29b7dfcb409658&oe=563408B3

More now at http://facebook.com/rallymedia and more later this week!

AP-Racing

14th June 2015, 14:03

I can see that info only on twitter of Anton Pustovalov (Russian driver). I don't listen the radio though. Waiting for something official.

Sorry. I read this on EWRC :(

Mirek

14th June 2015, 14:06

Sorry. I read this on EWRC :(

No problem. Everybody was confused about that ;)

dimviii

14th June 2015, 14:40

More now at http://facebook.com/rallymedia and more later this week!

like these ones

https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11412351_849347518486552_1158250972996732798_n.jpg ?oh=c59b1ee18780d8c118e494c3f9df95b5&oe=55EC255A
https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11391429_849347198486584_3653219157954481942_n.jpg ?oh=b960d4548de5c883d972b7f4a7cbcead&oe=563453F8
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11406902_848327378588566_8985939412246261990_n.jpg ?oh=5f5b1d2a4eb5bbba69f98fe5ad7f4b84&oe=562B8325&__gda__=1445585812_9f8a06e72d2301c97ed8d0bde66e603 c
https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11163905_849550165132954_9067092237253082958_n.jpg ?oh=139e7d1a4c02114cfa8f2647b4011240&oe=55FEFF5C

N.O.T

14th June 2015, 14:59

Very good showing for Paddon and very mature drive above else given his experience, at the end of the day Kaiser would win either way so the way Paddon handled the situation i think should he a reference point for the others.

Fast Eddie WRC

14th June 2015, 15:06

Fantastic display and result for Paddon, hope its the first of many. If it wasnt for his car problem he may even have pushed Ogier all the way...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHdLNc6WIAALAEZ.jpg:large

Yes, even Ogier acknowledged him... 'praise from Caesar' ! ;)

stefanvv

14th June 2015, 15:16

Didn't you read his interview before the rally? And before Portugal? And before the previous (and next) gravel rallies? When he keeps complaining every time that he needs a "miracle" to win and how rules are unfair?

I just gave the answer to Your dilemma;)

dimviii

14th June 2015, 16:55

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHd-8KvXAAACT46.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHd1LCXWsAAF7sB.jpg

Becs Williams ‏@Becsywecsy
Just finished interviewing the man of the moment @HaydenPaddon - without his socks & shoes! First #WRC podium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHd1XAgWsAAjJdB.jpg

borl video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7F30CSt7EE&feature=youtu.be

Fast Eddie WRC

14th June 2015, 17:08

Hayden Paddon : I could get use to this feeling :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHd7oDKWUAAQSbD.jpg

dimviii

14th June 2015, 17:13

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHeETGJWEAAalRw.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/24/68/Rallye_Sardinien_2015_122_246872_557d53a80.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/24/68/Rallye_Sardinien_2015_120_246876_557d53a86.jpg

borl photos
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive/with/18618717839/

JoostSchouten

14th June 2015, 17:47

What a great rally we had! Had to take care of a lot of dust, but it was worth it! ;)

Enjoy the video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3HfXvjNvK0

http://i59.tinypic.com/fjmcli.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3HfXvjNvK0)

pucky54

14th June 2015, 17:56

No penalty or exclusion for Ogier???

JAM

14th June 2015, 18:04

JAM

14th June 2015, 18:05

No penalty or exclusion for Ogier???

No. The guy was the first on the road, lose a lot of time, find a lot of rocks on the road left by the cars in front of him, had a lot of punctures, broke a gearbox with a rock...

...why to penalize him more because one simple donut at the end? :D

Livewireshock

14th June 2015, 18:11

It was a great event for me. I was not here to spectate, but to observe and see how this event was run. I spent Friday around the Service Park looking at the infrastructure and how it was implemented. Then on Saturday I spent most of it at the Tyre Fitting Zone in Budduso, with it's crazy petrol station with it's lively cafe. We even somehow managed to gatecrash a local wedding on our way back to Alghero. Today I went to the stop control on SS20, to see some action and then returned for the podium. I saw the organisers in a flap, realised that they did not have a New Zealand flag to raise for Hayden Paddon's 2nd position. So I then ran to Hyundai to grab Chris Paddon's flag and took it to the podium. My good deed for the day.

hari

14th June 2015, 18:13

What is also important is that both cars had no technical problems on such a rough and long rally (I'm not sure if Kremer's yesterday's problems were caused by mechanical isues or by some driving mistake). That has been very uncommon with R5. The "Safari-style" setup obviously worked.

Kremers problems on Saturday was the results of offs/hitting rocks.

N.O.T

14th June 2015, 18:17

It was a great event for me. I was not here to spectate, but to observe and see how this event was run.

why ?

JoostSchouten

14th June 2015, 18:18

Great video. Wonderful images.
Thanks JAM! It's a wonderfull island, that already helps a lot! ;)

Livewireshock

14th June 2015, 18:27

why ?
There are many ways of looking at the event. From a spectator point of view, from the drivers angle, the teams opinions and then there is the organisation.

Coming from Australia, the fly away, long distance events use different equipment and such. After working at several Rally Australia and Rally New Zealand events and hearing people wish that things were more like the this or that, I am motivated in ensuring that I can make my event better.

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N.O.T

14th June 2015, 18:32

hype

14th June 2015, 18:38

hype

14th June 2015, 18:56

http://www.roundfour.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Rally-Italia-Sardegna-Patrik-Pangerl-01-Dani-Sordo.jpg

http://www.roundfour.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Rally-Italia-Sardegna-Patrik-Pangerl-02-Kahlid-Al-Qassimi.jpg

http://www.roundfour.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Rally-Italia-Sardegna-Patrik-Pangerl-03-Ott-Taenak.jpg

Mk2 RS2000

14th June 2015, 19:05

AL14

14th June 2015, 19:19

Awesome rally as almost always in Sardinia. Great rally for spectators, very friendly marshals and police!
I was a bit unlucky on Friday as I didn't find good spots on SS2 and SS10. Somehow I remember the Olbia stages to be a bit more interesting, but this was 8 years ago.
Ss10 was not a very good stage from a spectator point of view. Others were very good though. Especially on saturday it was very difficult to not find an amazing spot. But I agree with you about Olbia. Last year, on friday we were near there and we had a great time in those stages.

EightGear

14th June 2015, 19:19

pucky54

14th June 2015, 19:26

No. The guy was the first on the road, lose a lot of time, find a lot of rocks on the road left by the cars in front of him, had a lot of punctures, broke a gearbox with a rock...

...why to penalize him more because one simple donut at the end? :D

He was not following rules in service park. Speeding and threatening spectators as well as crew members!

Livewireshock

14th June 2015, 19:28

. My flag you chain rattler

Sorry, I was told it was Chris' flag. I called out your name and the Irish girl handed it to me, so I was not sure who owned it. She has it back again, by the way. I guess we will need to see what happens to the referendum soon as to what new flag you will get in the future. :D

I'll pull my head in and I'll look forward to seeing you again at the Donegal Rally.

dimviii

14th June 2015, 19:38

That spot at 0:53 is simply amazing.

must be the same spot as at 1,40,really nice spot.

janvanvurpa

14th June 2015, 19:59

There are many ways of looking at the event. From a spectator point of view, from the drivers angle, the teams opinions and then there is the organisation.

Coming from Australia, the fly away, long distance events use different equipment and such. After working at several Rally Australia and Rally New Zealand events and hearing people wish that things were more like the this or that, I am motivated in ensuring that I can make my event better.

Sent from my Tab2A7-10F using Tapatalk

I wish we had a few organisers here that would ever even consider that some people someplace MIGHT possibly have SOMETHING to teach 'em... but alas if one ever even hints at things saying "well we've had 30-40 entries average for the last 30 years and they have 130-180 in the same time period.....we have 43% of all people who have entered an event between 2000 and 2014 do 3 events and drop out of the sport....maybe we might be able to learn something from where the National program is solid and sustainable and then examine if and how it could be applied here, maybe?"

Standard answer for 30 years "This isn't Europe, everything is different....it'll never be like it is there"

I guess they're right---since they never bother to even look---or ask....

Good on you..
What's your events you organise?

(I've poked around looking at the Oz rally scene since I've sent some of the things I manufacture down to some guys but I haven't found any central forum for all the country, mostly poked in on Brindabella forum for ACT)

hype

14th June 2015, 20:05

must be the same spot as at 1,40,really nice spot.

On which stage is it?

dimviii

14th June 2015, 20:07

we have to wait JoostSchouten to confirm mate.

Livewireshock

14th June 2015, 20:09

I wish we had a few organisers here that would ever even consider that some people someplace MIGHT possibly have SOMETHING to teach 'em... but alas if one ever even hints at things saying "well we've had 30-40 entries average for the last 30 years and they have 130-180 in the same time period.....we have 43% of all people who have entered an event between 2000 and 2014 do 3 events and drop out of the sport....maybe we might be able to learn something from where the National program is solid and sustainable and then examine if and how it could be applied here, maybe?"

Standard answer for 30 years "This isn't Europe, everything is different....it'll never be like it is there"

I guess they're right---since they never bother to even look---or ask....

Good on you..
What's your events you organise?

(I've poked around looking at the Oz rally scene since I've sent some of the things I manufacture down to some guys but I haven't found any central forum for all the country, mostly poked in on Brindabella forum for ACT)

I am just a small cog in the larger wheel. I have worked in the Service Park at Rally Australia and NZ, so I am keen to just know what works, what is desired and how things can be put into practice properly.

For example, many of the tire people hate the remote Tire Fitting Zones. Especially with how they have been laid out and ran. Many mental notes taken for something that is becoming more common in the WRC. Corsica will feature 5 of them.

dimviii

14th June 2015, 20:19

Meeke loosing a junction at ps
https://youtu.be/TPXOXL8AASU

Ogiers father reading the news about his son
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHeu9bmXAAACmDl.jpg

Zeakiwi

14th June 2015, 21:03

Jan Van - " (I've poked around looking at the Oz rally scene since I've sent some of the things I manufacture down to some guys but I haven't found any central forum for all the country, mostly poked in on Brindabella forum for ACT)"
Australian rally drivers have their own website pages or facebook etc. Jack Monkhouse, Molly Taylor etc
NZ has FB/ web pages like the 'NZ Rally Championship', History of NZ Rallying as well as the driver FB pages - Emma Gilmour, Alex Kelsey, Ben Hunt, Holder Brothers, Lance Wiliams, Jason Gill etc.

nafpaktos

14th June 2015, 21:16

Mirek

14th June 2015, 21:43

dimviii

14th June 2015, 22:10

Take it as You will. PSA R5 again not exactly according to the rules. I don't know how to recognize a red pipe on a black&white photo but I think that in this case it's probably just a mess in Peugeot. Anyway Andreucci fined by 5000 Euro for non-homologated part on the car.

http://www.rallyitaliasardegna.com/public/2015/pdf/Commissari_sportivi/stewards_decision_no.7.pdf

the hose fitted on the car was with less thickness=not better that the one MUST have install.
Its typical,but they have to comply with homologation papers.
via this hose will pass the compressed air from turbo to engine(2,5 bar) so we need a strong hose that can cope with the pressure and temperatures.
Plenty of hose manufacturers sell their hoses at various colors.Same hose to different colors.
For sure wasnt something to purpose,but they have to be exactly the same.

bluuford

14th June 2015, 22:11

janvanvurpa

14th June 2015, 22:46

He was not following rules in service park. Speeding and threatening spectators as well as crew members!

But he said before the event that it would be a miracle if he won..
And he won..
So it means it was a divine Act of God....A Holy Doughnut

Who here can question a divine act of God?

bowler

14th June 2015, 22:48

Livewireshock

14th June 2015, 22:56

My final Rally Italia Sardegna story. The event is over and I was keen to visit an out of the way pizza place and I am glad that I did. The man on the table beside me struck up a conversation in broken english. He said he was a Skoda S2000 driver. So we chatted about various rally things while he finished his meal and mine was served. He settled his bill and then as he got up to leave with his fiancee, he said, "Do not worry, your meal has already been paid for." I am deeply humbled and thankful for him for that. All he would say for my thanks was "Rally is a community"

Luca Artino, I thank you deeply for this gesture.

denkimi

14th June 2015, 23:07

bluuford

14th June 2015, 23:32

The competitor is fined because it is their responsibility to make sure that they use the right parts. The manufacturer is not responsible. If the team had checked and returned the part there would be no issue. In this case the fine is much better than Exclusion, which is what could have happened. The rules are made by FIA, and the competitor has to abide by them, and the Stewards enforce them. Andreucci drove a great rally, and was very lucky to have a result recorded.

This is the point I wanted to highlight. Peugeot should be responsible for what he is selling. It is absolutely against any logic... When I buy smokes from big supermarket and it comes out that supermarket is selling tobacco without tax stickers, then I am not the one who is going to get penalised, it is supermarket. Can you imagine that you buy new Ford from official dealer and while you drive out police stops you and it comes out that you have red lights in front instead of normal lights.. it is clear that the fine and replacement costs will be covered by the official dealer not you.
We take it like it should be like this.. but why? Maybe because it is easier for FIA. But why it should be easy for them? why something should be with such an ill logic?

bluuford

14th June 2015, 23:47

I just discovered a nice fact. The drivers in top 15 were representing 14 different countries. Only country with two drivers was Qatar in 11th and 12th position:-)
I think it is some kind fo record from recent past. Top 10 was 10 different countries:-)

sollitt

15th June 2015, 00:09

This is the point I wanted to highlight. Peugeot should be responsible for what he is selling. It is absolutely against any logic... When I buy smokes from big supermarket and it comes out that supermarket is selling tobacco without tax stickers, then I am not the one who is going to get penalised, it is supermarket. Can you imagine that you buy new Ford from official dealer and while you drive out police stops you and it comes out that you have red lights in front instead of normal lights.. it is clear that the fine and replacement costs will be covered by the official dealer not you.
We take it like it should be like this.. but why? Maybe because it is easier for FIA. But why it should be easy for them? why something should be with such an ill logic?There is no "ill logic" here at all. As the entrant of the car/team, the competitor has the relationship with the organizer and the responsibility to present a compliant car. This car was not compliant so it is automatically determined that the entrant is at fault. All that is left to decide is the level of penalty. In this case it would seem that the stewards allowed some leniency due to the circumstances.
However the stewards do not have any jurisdiction over the parts supplier. One would expect that in the normal course of events the competitor would be claiming the costs back from the parts supplier themselves.

sollitt

15th June 2015, 00:11

JoostSchouten

15th June 2015, 00:19

That spot at 0:53 is simply amazing.

must be the same spot as at 1,40,really nice spot.
Thanks! It was really a great spot, with a very hard wind, so the sound is maybe not the best. But still a great area to watch and film.

we have to wait JoostSchouten to confirm mate.
It was at Grighine Sud on Friday.

excellent
Thanks!

JAM

15th June 2015, 10:57

There is no "ill logic" here at all. As the entrant of the car/team, the competitor has the relationship with the organizer and the responsibility to present a compliant car. This car was not compliant so it is automatically determined that the entrant is at fault. All that is left to decide is the level of penalty. In this case it would seem that the stewards allowed some leniency due to the circumstances.
However the stewards do not have any jurisdiction over the parts supplier. One would expect that in the normal course of events the competitor would be claiming the costs back from the parts supplier themselves.

When you buy a car from a manufacturer, you believe the car is legal and acording the homologation.

Otherwise, when you buy a new car, you must completely dismantle the car and rebuild it to check every component to see if it is according the homologation. When a driver buy a part to a manufacturer, is implicit that the part is according the homologation.

Here FIA must investigate the Peugeot Sport's behaviour.

The only exception is if tha part was not bought from Peugeot or was changed by the team / driver.

It's stupid and impossible to expect that every team check every component sold by the manufacturer. Is obligatoin of the manufacturer assure that what is selling comply the regulations.

Mirek

15th June 2015, 12:23

Nice video, hopefully not a repost: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQa9BTRTV-4

raybak

15th June 2015, 13:53

When you buy a car from a manufacturer, you believe the car is legal and acording the homologation.

Otherwise, when you buy a new car, you must completely dismantle the car and rebuild it to check every component to see if it is according the homologation. When a driver buy a part to a manufacturer, is implicit that the part is according the homologation.

Here FIA must investigate the Peugeot Sport's behaviour.

The only exception is if tha part was not bought from Peugeot or was changed by the team / driver.

It's stupid and impossible to expect that every team check every component sold by the manufacturer. Is obligatoin of the manufacturer assure that what is selling comply the regulations.

From what I understand the part was changed by the team when they had their cooling issues.

Ray

Mirek

15th June 2015, 14:08

From what I understand the part was changed by the team when they had their cooling issues.

Ray

No, there is written that Peugeot changed their part supplier and this part came from Peugeot. At least that is written in the document.

JAM

15th June 2015, 14:33

From what I understand the part was changed by the team when they had their cooling issues.

Ray

Adding to what Mirek wrote

You probably missed this part of the "stewards decision":

"The competitor explained that the parts had come from Peugeot who had in changed his components suplier

It was noted that the parts supplied by Peugeot where not in compliance with the homologated papers prepared by Peugeot"

dimviii

15th June 2015, 14:50

they start trolling Ogier

World Rally Blog ‏@WorldRallyBlog 11 Ιουν
"Best driver did not win in Portugal". True, Loeb is doing WTCC these days. #WRC

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lolol
Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally
I still feel sore about this plate of meat! Together with some cheese a coke, coffee, it cost me €50! Bloody bandits!

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dimviii

15th June 2015, 14:56

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2015/photos/rally_italia_sardegna_2015/ele_dsc_9342.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2015/photos/rally_italia_sardegna_2015/ele_dsc_9555.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2015/photos/rally_italia_sardegna_2015/ele_dsc_9367.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2015/photos/rally_italia_sardegna_2015/ele_dsc_9353.jpg

http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=19124&fotograf=367

Rallyper

15th June 2015, 16:43

When you buy a car from a manufacturer, you believe the car is legal and acording the homologation.

Otherwise, when you buy a new car, you must completely dismantle the car and rebuild it to check every component to see if it is according the homologation. When a driver buy a part to a manufacturer, is implicit that the part is according the homologation.

Here FIA must investigate the Peugeot Sport's behaviour.

The only exception is if tha part was not bought from Peugeot or was changed by the team / driver.

It's stupid and impossible to expect that every team check every component sold by the manufacturer. Is obligatoin of the manufacturer assure that what is selling comply the regulations.

For sure the rules for WRC/WRC2/WRC3 are not corresponding to reality. Only thing is when team building a rallycar from kit in their own workshop, maybe.

Livewireshock

15th June 2015, 20:16

Livewireshock

15th June 2015, 20:24

For sure the rules for WRC/WRC2/WRC3 are not corresponding to reality. Only thing is when team building a rallycar from kit in their own workshop, maybe.
The danger is for a manufacturer to scam the system and deliberately produce and supply special go-fast parts for a car. With the driver pleading ignorance about it (although may be part of the scam) and blaming the supplier, thus the onus is on the driver/team to prove the car is legal. It hurts the driver/team more with money or points penalties than to find a big car company with deep pockets who would happily pay the fine if it meant their car was benefiting from the fast parts and getting the promotional benefit from a winning car.

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Rallyper

15th June 2015, 22:02

The danger is for a manufacturer to scam the system and deliberately produce and supply special go-fast parts for a car. With the driver pleading ignorance about it (although may be part of the scam) and blaming the supplier, thus the onus is on the driver/team to prove the car is legal. It hurts the driver/team more with money or points penalties than to find a big car company with deep pockets who would happily pay the fine if it meant their car was benefiting from the fast parts and getting the promotional benefit from a winning car.

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OK. That´s another side of the coin. Didn´t think of that.

tommeke_B

16th June 2015, 10:26

Back home from my 5th visit to Sardinia, had a great event. In terms of stages and itinerary it was probably the best edition so far. Seen shakedown + 14 stages (only WRC cars on 5 stages). A lot of variety in the event, you can not say "this is a typical Sardinia stage" like you can for many other events. Every stage is different and that makes it very interesting for spectating. We've seen jumps, fast sections, hairpins, very steep downhill sections, parts between trees, between rocks.

A few photos from Paddon, the best driver of the rally (in my opinion).

On Montiferru, a bit behind the start we were in the mountains (almost 1000 meters high). Great view and atmosphere there. It was like some "mini-el-condor" on that spot. :)
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xft1/t31.0-8/11406345_1091460617532490_5514167112355147404_o.jp g

On the limit over a crest on the short Ozieri-stage.
https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/t31.0-8/11427390_1090166167661935_202807989928688576_o.jpg

Jump on shakedown
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Small album on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1091460370865848.1073741918.176477852364109&type=3

The full album and some personal review will follow later. ;)

6789

16th June 2015, 11:15

Great shots! looking forward to the review

Mirek

16th June 2015, 14:49

Nice place to compare drivers. I think it's Neuville who looks like nearly crashing into the wall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc0kBdTiyUM

Allyc85

16th June 2015, 16:42

My short video from an amazing Rally Italia Sardegna. I will certainly be returning one day!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbBntBVne4o

Simorally86

16th June 2015, 19:00

Some pics from this Amazing rally! Great action and great atmosphere ;)

http://csrallyphotos.weebly.com/wrc-rally-italia-sardegna.html

dimviii

16th June 2015, 20:55

Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally
How to capture a moment! Great pic by Massimo Bettiol of the moment it all went wrong for @krismeeke and @paulnagle1
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHonqoKXAAA0T3e.jpg

hype

16th June 2015, 21:53

Wow, that's truly a once in your life photo :-)

N.O.T

16th June 2015, 22:01

Wow, that's truly a once in your life photo :-)

not if you are a proper professional and not a generic landscape dog.

hype

16th June 2015, 23:18

I mean being there in exact that moment...

MartijnS

17th June 2015, 08:39

Edited the rest of my photos yesterday evening!

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More at our Facebook page mentioned below, tonight at our website!

dimviii

17th June 2015, 15:01

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkICymYHiY4&feature=youtu.be&a

pettersolberg29

17th June 2015, 15:31

My video from an amazing Rally Italia Sardinia - first time there but certainly not the last!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3zGG7fEC8Y

dimviii

17th June 2015, 17:43

My video from an amazing Rally Italia Sardinia - first time there but certainly not the last!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3zGG7fEC8Y
spot at 0,05 is amazing.

AL14

17th June 2015, 19:06

As a sardinian guy I'm glad so many people enjoyed their journey and the rally itself. It has been an adventure for me as well, coming back to my beloved island and go througout the stages. The only thing I'm not that happy about is that they could do more to help spectators reaching the stages. No carts, no indications, not too much help from towns offices near the stages. I prepared my itinerary previously with the help of google maps and waze but not everybody uses this kind of applications. Overall though, it has been an amazing weekend. Looking forward to next year of course.

dimviii

17th June 2015, 21:13

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http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_06_2015/post-1430-0-18018600-1434474037.jpg

Atob WRC

17th June 2015, 21:26

Hello all!!

Here our video from the rally!!

Hope you enjoy.

BR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkICymYHiY4

dimviii

17th June 2015, 21:40

nice video from a Greek mate.
https://youtu.be/9R_Ek0VTzVw

Fast Eddie WRC

17th June 2015, 22:07

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/24/68/Rallye_Sardinien_2015_120_246876_557d53a86.jpg

Got this as my PC desktop background and it looks brilliant... try it ! :cool:

Aquagen

17th June 2015, 22:12

Some photos from amazing Rally Italia Sardegna
http://rallyonline.com.ua/gallery/2015/Rally-Italia-Sardegna-2015/aquagen/

Fast Eddie WRC

17th June 2015, 22:14

Is that Paddon?

Yes, mate. :)

pettersolberg29

17th June 2015, 23:12

spot at 0,05 is amazing.

It really was - the speed was amazing. Great to have a chat with Seb Marshall up there too! Having a live 'pundit' was pretty cool.

dimviii

17th June 2015, 23:36

It really was - the speed was amazing. Great to have a chat with Seb Marshall up there too! Having a live 'pundit' was pretty cool.

have we got any news from Seb?

AL14

17th June 2015, 23:41

I'm wondering how Paddon could have been so consistently fast during the rally.
If I remember well he only won one stage last year and this year he never went better than 5th or 6th, staying low in the rankings apart from Sweden where he stayed in the road and get a top 5 finish.

Ok he had the new car, but is it enough to be that fast for 2 days in so many kms? I don't think so. And his road position was a good position in other rallys as well. I just can't explain it.

AL14

17th June 2015, 23:51

Yes, I've read it too. He talks about it from time to time. Kennard said he is less hesitant with the new paddleshift and feels more comfortable with the new car. I really like his approach and his learning process and really hope this is not a one off.

pettersolberg29

18th June 2015, 00:06

have we got any news from Seb?

Lots of great insight but not too much news - just that he's been ridiculously busy testing and cannot wait to start alongside Abbring for the second half of the season!

Interesting to hear how normally when he's a WRC spectator he's a bit underwhelmed by the pace compared to how fast in feels in the car, yet at the point in the video at 0:05 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3zGG7fEC8Y) he kept saying how the speed from outside the car seemed insane!

tommeke_B

18th June 2015, 00:27

So some more extended review from Rally Italia Sardinia. If you are lazy or not interested, don't read it and save some time.

Started with the shakedown on thursday. In my opinion the shakedown was way too brutal and way too soft to be representative for the event itself. I like it as a spectator, it's really spectacular. But for drivers it's completely useless, you can't use it to "feel" the set-up you made, not even talking about making some modifications... It would be better to take something a bit flatter and with harder surface. The jump on shakedown was nice to see. VW's were clearly carrying more speed. The ones struggling on landing were Citroëns. Meeke's car was even bouncing back in the air after a hard landing! It was also nice to see very different ways of taking the jump, as it was shortly behind a very fast turn. I didn't see the Skoda's take that jump, as I moved on already.

On friday we started with the first Grighini stage. A nice section where you could see the cars take a few fast turns on a narrow road in the far distance. Then they took some hairpin onto tarmac, to get on gravel again for a medium left turn, and after that 2 very fast right turns quickly following each other. Paddon, Ogier and Sordo were the ones carrying most speed in that turn, very impressive. There was a difference that some drivers were throwing the car extremely and started countersteering already 15-20m before the corner (https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/1502420_1091460530865832_3516657501261726326_o.jpg ), while others had a cleaner (even understeered) entry and were going sideways only after reaching the apex). Most spectacular to see was Mads Ostberg (https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/10333813_1091460527532499_6018122944866465243_o.jp g). I've rarely seen a car going THAT sideways in such a fast turn. Anyway with it he lost momentum and a lot of time with that action. Ostberg wasn't really looking well all event by the way. The car looked way too soft and reacting heavily to any bumps, the car was moving much more than it should. But he's not the first "soft" driver struggling with the DS3 (although it has new suspension geometry now).

After WRC cars we moved on to Grighini Nord. Some technical place (https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/t31.0-8/11402263_1091460547532497_3297916842577180513_o.jp g ; https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t31.0-8/11054843_1091460540865831_5872395139849428905_o.jp g). It was quite narrow, rocks on one side and steep downhill on the other side of the road. Also the road was a bit rutted (but very hard) already before the first car. I don't think Ogier had any disadvantage from being sweeper, as he looked quickest of all. After the first 10 WRC2-cars we moved on to the first Sagama-stage. The public access was a big mess. Very bad road through some fields, it looked more like a Safari than anything else... I hope the car-rental company doesn't have a bad present left for us.

Then we moved to the stage along the sea. We went to some place towards the finish (last turn where they went away from the seacoast). Very nice braking into that medium-left, drivers were really "flicking" the car from one side to the other, the grip level was very low. Once into the corner they gained much more grip and the exit was very clean from all drivers. After that you had some straight and then some fast left corner that really surprised me. It went from really wide into narrow between the bushes. I thought drivers would brake for that, but except for Prokop and Neuville, all drivers were taking it flat out! Thanks to some huge cut it was possible to take it as a long corner. Very impressive to see. In the exit of the corner there were plenty of spectators who were behind the tape, but it still looked a bit suicidal to me... If any driver would have made an error there, the car would be launched into the air and who knows where it would land...

Then off to Grighini Sud 2. On a very fast downhill section between the windmills (https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/11539198_1091460580865827_8808154848689748203_o.jp g). It was a very long straight downhill before fast right into very fast left with very short straight into another left. There was plenty of space for the drivers so everyone could really go on the limit there, some went off the road a bit. On the photo of Latvala you can see how far he was on the outside before the corner. After the WRC cars you could clearly see the spot where all outer rear-wheels were before that corner. It was nice to see how some WRC-drivers took the first right corner a bit more calm/clean to have a better/quicker second and third corner. Especially Ogier was really calm in that first one, to gain more speed in those other corners and the following flat out downhill part. It's the part where Ogier and Loeb are simply brilliant compared to others. As if they decide how to tackle a corner on stage only hundreds meters after taking it on recce. While others almost stop on the spot to write down the angle/radius and just move on.

To finish the day we went to Montiferru after the start (https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/10257635_1091460607532491_4770027939938231451_o.jp g ; https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xft1/t31.0-8/11406345_1091460617532490_5514167112355147404_o.jp g). Almost 1000m high in altitude, there was a great view, and a lot of spectators. On the top of the mountain you could see the start, a first right corner, a hairpin left, another right corner and then they disappeared... Then all spectators quickly walked some 5 meters to see the other part. A left-right situation where the cars lifted wheels, followed by a straight, some long left turn and right turn before they disappeared behind the mountain. Rally-technical nothing really special to mention here. All drivers cutted over the rocks, as if they were made for it. After the first WRC2-cars the stage was neutralized, unfortunately.

On saturday we started with Monte Di Ala. Some very steep downhill section not too far behind the start (https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/11206482_1091460674199151_6993203464364837797_o.jp g). It was a very fast left one into another fast left one (photo) with a bump just before it. After that there was some downhill straight with some bumps, into hairpin right. After that they disappeared over a crest into a fast left one (not visible anymore from my viewpoint). Both Paddon and Latvala (photo) were really crazy to see. From Latvala almost everyone thought he was going to crash, fortunately he didn't this time... This time again Citroëns were clearly handling the bumps not so well. After WRC cars we left to the Coiluna stage, maybe my favourite stage of the event. I like the very fast corners between the cork trees.

From there to Ozieri (some 1km before finish), very fast left corner over blind crest (https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/t31.0-8/11427390_1090166167661935_202807989928688576_o.jpg ). The crest was just not sharp enough for the cars to jump, most cars lifted their front wheels. Paddon was clearly the fastest on this place, he took all the space there was (not much). I dare to say his speed was probably 10kph (if not more) quicker than most other WRC drivers. Paddon is a driver who looks to perform very well on completely new events by the way. He's very good on what's the weak spot of his main teammate (Neuville)...

After that another run on Monte Di Ala and Coiluna, not really much to say about it. It started to show that there were too many retirements and big time losses, some impressive things, but it was clear many drivers were not really pushing hard anymore.

On sunday we did the first stage twice, before going to the powerstage. First time we were on a nice spot. Quick left corner before a long right tightening into a slow/medium corner. In the distance you could see a "double" junction right. It was some relatively fast junction right (probably some 110°) with very wide exit into another slower junction right (really 90°) around some bushes which didn't allow cutting. We visited this stage during recce on wednesday as well. It was cool to see Thierry Neuville going almost completely off the road in the exit of that second slow junction, just to see if it was possible to go so wide during the event as well. On sunday we saw that many drivers used more than the road on that place, going really far in the exit of the second (slow) one trying to carry the maximum speed.

On the powerstage we did a very fast (+- flatout) right corner with a little jump in it (https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/10923409_1091460384199180_5565108869456193456_o.jp g ; https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/10583004_1091460394199179_8119314060597379421_o.jp g). It's nice to end a rally with some "big-balls-action" like that. On this place most drivers had very similar lines. I remember Mikkelsen going much more sideways (too sideways) and losing a little bit of time. Both Skoda R5's were very fast but not sideways at all, they were flying with understeer. What was interesting too on this place was how big the difference in aerodynamics/downforce between WRC and R5 really is. WRC cars were jumping nose up, while other cars had their back lifted more than front.

--End of part1.

tommeke_B

18th June 2015, 00:27

--part2, as it's too much to put in one post apparently.

From WRC cars perfomances it's clear that VW is still far ahead. The way Ogier is doing it is brilliant. He is never as spectacular as the others, but you have to admire the insight he has, and how he always finds a way to do it different, with less risk and a faster time throughout the section. It looks like just like Loeb he is doing much more analysis than others, not necessarily of the set-up, but mostly of the stages themselves I think. Mikkelsen still a bit more brutal than other events. For Latvala I had a lot of hope last year, he was starting to drive more clean (even cleaner than Ogier) in Finland and Germany, and was also quicker in both events. But now it looks like he's back in the typical agressive "Nordic" style, which comes with consequences.
Hyundai is becoming closest rival as it seems, for VW. Neuville was very disappointing for me this weekend, I've never been more disappointed in him than this time. I don't know what took his confidence away... Paddon on the other hand was the surprise of the rally, maybe the surprise of the year! Really flamboyant driving style, you can't compare it with any other current WRC driver, hard to describe it. I had countless moments where I thought it was over for him (especially on the Ozieri stage where he took that turn over the crest muuch faster than anyone else, knowing another right corner was following it). He was on a huge attack and entering the corners very agressive, but somehow he got everything right. He must be able to drive extremely precise, since the exits of those crazy corners were almost always very good. Hard to understand how somebody can drive so perfect on completely new stages with only 2 recce-runs, it's beyond comprehension for me...
Ford doesn't have the drivers who are capable for being both very quick and consistent (yet). The car looks and sounds good. Tanak was very impressive on some places, on other places he was very spectacular as well, but in the way it was a bit too brutal.
And Citroën... Well, Meeke should be a great driver. But this weekend he was really disappointing. After his crash he was driving very clean lines, it didn't look fast and the times don't lie...

Now too tired to write anything more... Maybe something about WRC2 tomorrow, although I don't have so much to say about it.

AL14

18th June 2015, 00:43

So some more extended review from Rally Italia Sardinia. If you are lazy or not interested, don't read it and save some time.

I've read it all and enjoyed it. Thanks for having shared your rally and your thoughts. :)

Lundefaret

18th June 2015, 00:45

So some more extended review from Rally Italia Sardinia. If you are lazy or not interested, don't read it and save some time.

It's the part where Ogier and Loeb are simply brilliant compared to others. As if they decide how to tackle a corner on stage only hundreds meters after taking it on recce.

A VERY good observation.
You see things many others do not :)

Thanks for the detailed post!

pettersolberg29

18th June 2015, 01:18

I've read it all and enjoyed it. Thanks for having shared your rally and your thoughts. :)

Indeed, cheers Tom, great read even though I was there too :)

b3637853

18th June 2015, 09:05

Great review tommeke_B, you definitely made the most out of what you saw on the stages. I envy you being on whole event, including recce. I'm going to spectate Rally Poland and I can't wait.
And really nice pictures BTW.

tommeke_B

18th June 2015, 09:26

Thanks for the nice reactions! @b3637853, I wasn't there during all recce, just on wednesday when we arrived we did some stages.

makinen_fan

18th June 2015, 11:33

Now too tired to write anything more... Maybe something about WRC2 tomorrow, although I don't have so much to say about it.

Really nice read! Thanks for that!

It will be great if you can comment how the WRC 2 leaders looked (Protasov,Nasser,Paolo and the Skodas)

martini2771

18th June 2015, 21:30

Have a look of some slow-mo and fast-mo WRC action in Sardinia '15:

http://motorsunsports.lv/video/wrc-rally-sardegna-2015

dimviii

18th June 2015, 21:53

Have a look of some slow-mo and fast-mo WRC action in Sardinia '15:

http://motorsunsports.lv/video/wrc-rally-sardegna-2015

like Nasser pass at 7,40

Mintexmemory

19th June 2015, 03:08

Great time in Sardinia with AllyC85 and PetterSolberg29. The WRC 2 category was absorbing all weekend. Protosov was the real star, very quick and committed. No one went higher on the big Crestazza jump on the second run (though Nasser had a good try) The Skodas were lovely to see and clearly handle differently to all the opposition. Maybe Lappi would have been close to the first place without his troubles but Kopecky looked like he was under orders to not break the car. All of which meant nothing to the local fans who were whooping and hollering everytime Ucci passed by. He was clearly inspired and spectacular. As a footnote all the 'Als' appear to be better rally drivers and visibly quicker than they were in 2011 /12. Nasser has a great pace awareness and was unlucky not to be higher placed but it was that type of rally - everyone had a problem at some time.
Photos as I have time to edit

edgars944

19th June 2015, 21:34

Some photos:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.920016954723137.1073741911.531301770261326&type=3

Mintexmemory

20th June 2015, 11:33

First couple of shots from shakedown.

Mk2 RS2000

20th June 2015, 22:55

A very enjoyable event, naturally very delighted for our two Kiwi's. Hayden still has the old car but with the upgrade of now being fitted with the paddle shift transmission, When he broke the mounting off the gearbox everything was tied up with zip ties etc to get him to the end of the leg where a more substantial patch up repair was undertaken. If he has an advantage on new stages it is that he grew up with blind rallies, that is no recce and no pace or stage notes. In the NZ championship they do have event supplied stage notes or you can write your own whilst in a convoy tour one pass recce. You have to be accurate and get them right first time.

Allyc85

21st June 2015, 22:20

My pictures from a stunning Rally Italia Sardegna!

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/562/19014626862_8fd8a20df3_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/uYfW7b)Shakedown (https://flic.kr/p/uYfW7b) by Alastair Cummins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/), on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/485/18406413783_07b252bf06_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/u3vFxM)WRC Rally Italia Sardegna (https://flic.kr/p/u3vFxM) by Alastair Cummins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/), on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/278/19029552591_e404256cd1_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/uZzr1k)WRC Rally Italia Sardegna (https://flic.kr/p/uZzr1k) by Alastair Cummins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/), on Flickr

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3848/18840729870_6fb522ae44_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/uGTEAb)WRC Rally Italia Sardegna (https://flic.kr/p/uGTEAb) by Alastair Cummins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/), on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/465/18839890240_74e86e1d6b_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/uGPmZN)WRC Rally Italia Sardegna (https://flic.kr/p/uGPmZN) by Alastair Cummins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/), on Flickr

https://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/sets/72157654876233325

rallyeati

22nd June 2015, 09:20

Do you know why this t-shirt (http://eyesportshop.com/en/wrc-official-merchandise/540-wrc-t-shirt-adamo-8001254874555.html#/color-6_yellow/size-7_t1_l) not available now on eyesportshop? I'd like to buy one.